Will Cain Country - Karoline Leavitt, Tommy Smokes, and Michael Hardaway: Who Is Actually Winning Right Now?

Episode Date: October 31, 2024

Story #1: Happy Halloween! Former President Trump dresses up as the garbage man! Will sits down with the Press Secretary of the Trump 2024 Campaign, Karoline Leavitt to discuss. Plus, a look behin...d the scenes of the campaign and how things are shaping up in the last week of the election. Story #2: Early returns have women showing up more than men in Pennsylvania. Is this good news for Vice President Kamala Harris? A conversation and a debate with former Obama advisor and former Communications Director to Democratic Minority Leader, Hakeem Jeffries, Michael Hardaway.  Story #3: Will is joined by Barstool's Tommy Smokes to discuss who should be held responsible for the devastating Yankees' loss in the World Series. Plus, Tommy returns to FOX News for the first time since his 'Vape God' viral moment and reflects on how that unfolded. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One, happy Halloween. Donald Trump, perhaps as an October surprise, dresses up as the garbage man, a conversation with National Press Secretary for the Trump campaign, Caroline Levitt. Two, early returns in Pennsylvania show, a disproportionate number of women mailing in an early vote. Is that a really good sign for Kamala Harris, a conversation with former Obama staffer, and the comms director for House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffrey's Democrat, Michael Hardaway. Three, would it have been better to not even gone to the World Series? A conversation with Yankee fan from Barstool, Tommy Smokes. It is the world.
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Starting point is 00:02:13 Two days ago on Fox and Friends, Fox and Friends host Ainsley Earhart, as an aside, said, yeah, I'm not really into Halloween. Sort of its pagan origins. It offended her Christian sensibilities. I said on Fox and Friends, I'd love to hear a little more. I think that's worthy of a hour conversation in and of itself, like the rejection of Halloween.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I wasn't surprised I've heard that before. I think my buddy Pete Higgseth has even mentioned the pagan nature of Halloween. It's never been that for me. You know, Halloween is a day when kids play dress-up, you know, and have a good time and go door to door and meet your neighbors. But I get it. Like, I also get to the modern day, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:55 inclination to, you know, for everyone to dress up like a hooker and go out and get bombed at the bars. And it made me wonder, like, is that not a healthy one time, once a year event for society? I just got to thinking about that movie, The Purge. You remember The Purge, the movie where it's like, once a year, no laws, you can do whatever you want. And everybody goes on this murder spree. You know, Tony Robbins and The Rocks, have cheat days in their diets. I do, you know, count your calories, hit your macros, but then on Saturday, blow it out and do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:03:35 And it's like build is both a physical and a psychological cheat day, a purge. And I started wondering, like, is there not some value in a purge for society? I don't mean should we all go out and air our grievances and go on revenge killings. I just kind of kind of just having fun. I don't really think that, you know, one day, every day we all dress up like, you know, a she devil and pound as many Yeager shots as possible, makes us better human beings for the other 364 days. But I also don't think it means we're all one night worshipping the devil. And I do think there's something interesting about the idea of a cheat day or a purge on the greater societal psyche. I don't know. Happy Halloween.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Donald Trump dressed up as the garbage man for Halloween. Let's get into that with story number one. Yesterday, Donald Trump took to a garbage truck wearing an orange safety vest, leaning into the insult that Trump supporters are garbage offered by the sitting president of the United States, Joe Biden. As an aside, Donald Trump climbing up two or three. steps at the age of 78 into a garbage truck, I think is notable, pretty done with pretty much ease. We've taken that for granted that a 78 year old can't climb those kinds of vertical steps. I'm just here to tell you. That's something to note. But it's a hell of a campaign
Starting point is 00:05:09 stunt. It's a hell of a publicity stunt because Joe Biden had this quite clearly for your ears to hear to say about the supporters of Donald Trump. Watch. Donald Trump has no character. He doesn't give a damn about the Latino community. He's a failed businessman. He's the only cares about the billionaire friends he had and accumulating wealth for those at the top. And he says, immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country. Give me a break.
Starting point is 00:05:35 He wants to do away with the birthright citizenship. Who the hell have said that in the last 100 years? And just the other day, a speaker at his rally called Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage. Well, let me tell you something. I don't know the Puerto Rican that I know. or Puerto Rico, where I'm in my home state of Delaware, they're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters, is demonization seen as unconscionable.
Starting point is 00:06:04 And it's un-American. It's totally contrary to everything we've done. If you're listening on radio or on podcast, the video we played actually was overlaid with a dial-testing of the audience by Fox News. fairly fascinating. Independent voters marked in yellow pretty much tracked, not at the same levels, but in the same direction as Republican voters.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Very unpopular, what Joe Biden had to say. And when he gets to the part about the only garbage I see are Trump supporters, it pretty much bottoms out, definitely in the red line and even in the yellow line.
Starting point is 00:06:40 But what is also fascinating is when he gets to that point in what he has to say, the blue line, Democrats, which were tracking up throughout his insults to half of America actually began to dip.
Starting point is 00:06:52 It seems that even calling Trump supporters garbage is unpopular to some degree, even with those who are ready to vote for Kamala Harris. But that could, in fact, be the October surprise, at least I think in some part, the Trump campaign is banking on this being his or her by proxies deplorable moment. And as I mentioned, Donald Trump leaned into it. and his costume for Halloween. Watch. And I said, no way. I got 25,000 people standing outside.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I got all these people here. There's no way I'm wearing it on stage. They said, oh, okay, sir. I said, get me my jacket. But if you did, you know, it actually makes you look thinner. I said, and they got me. I said, I want to wear it on stage. When they said, I look thin.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I said, in that case, I'll wear a nice thing. He's talking about his orange safety vest. No way. I'm not dressing up in a costume. Give me my jacket and tie, which I wear in every situation, always the same version of Donald Trump. But, sir, it makes you look thinner. Ooh, all right, bring me the safety vest.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Donald Trump dressing up as the garbage man. Let's find out if that's the October surprise. Let's bring in now National Press Secretary for Trump, 2024, Caroline. Levin. Good morning, Caroline. Thanks for being on the Will Cain show. Well, it's so great to be with you. Thanks for having me. You guys leaned into this garbage theme yesterday. Why do you think this is such a big moment? Why is this a gaff, in this case, President Biden, that you guys at the Trump campaign think is worth leaning into and helping spread across America? Well, it's the president of the United States insulting more than half of the country, referring to them as garbage.
Starting point is 00:08:51 It's just a despicable comment. There's no way to spin it, even though the White House desperately tried. And it really just reveals the true colors of the political left. They do view President Trump supporters as garbage. They view them as a basket of deplorables, as Hillary Clinton said in 2016. They view them as fascists and as Nazis. And it's just really sad because President Trump is supported by people we call patriots. They are mothers and fathers who want a better country for their children. They are law enforcement officers and border patrol agents, business owners, veterans who honorably serve this country. People who love our country are people who support President Trump. And I just think it's despicable that this is what
Starting point is 00:09:33 Kamala Harris and the Democrat Party have resulted to. They're so blinded by their hatred for President Trump that they despise the people who support him. And they can't even take a minute to understand why maybe tens of millions of Americans are backing President Trump in this election, despite all of the lies they've sputed him over the past eight years. Maybe if they took a second to think about it, Will. Maybe they'd have a better chance at winning this election. But they're so blinded by TDS, Trump's derangement syndrome, that they can't even do that. You know, Caroline, I shared that video of Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:10:05 When I looked at the comments under my post, and one of the things that I saw was, well, because I characterized, characterized it as Joe Biden slandering half of America. And several of the comments were, well, MAGA is not half of America. Whoopi Goldberg on the view mentioned something similar. This was brought up in Whoopi Goldberg in talking about Hillary Clinton calling people deplorables, goes, well, it turns out that Hillary Clinton was right. I do wonder, are they trying to parse between some core constituency of Donald Trump that they would call MAGA and the broader voting? constituency that is revealed in at least half the population supporting Donald Trump. Donald Trump owns the Republican Party. He ran away with a Republican primary. He got over 80 million
Starting point is 00:10:53 votes in 2020. To me, I hear Joe Biden calling 80 million people garbage. That's what I hear. I wonder, are they trying to say, no, no, no, no. It's not the 80 million that may vote Republican, but it's some fraction of that who we can call MAGA and get away with it, as we call them fascist and Nazis and garbage. I don't think Joe Biden is smart enough to even think about the way that you are. Well, I don't think there's any strategy behind this. I think Joe Biden is senile and incompetent, and I think this is what Democrats truly believe about, again, more than half of the country who supports President Trump.
Starting point is 00:11:34 And you don't just see it with their words. Look at their actions over the past. past several years. They have targeted, you know, pro-life activists thrown them in jail. They have censored and silenced conservative journalists. They put someone in jail for making a meme about Hillary Clinton. I mean, they have weaponized the justice system against President Trump himself and against his supporters. They've tried to put him in jail. So this is what they believe. And again, it's just incredibly sad and it's a terrible closing message that they're so divisive and vitriolic with their rhetoric. It's a sharp contrast to what we're doing on
Starting point is 00:12:05 the campaign trail everywhere. There's a lot of joy in this. campaign headquarters. I can tell you that. And President Trump is bringing that joy all over the country as he barnstorms all the battleground states holding multiple rallies a day talking about these issues that actually matter to voters. And that's why he's going to win this election because the Democrats are throwing lies about President Trump that people have become so numb to because they've been using them for eight years while President Trump is offering real solutions to solve the problems that Kamala Harris created in their lives. You mentioned throwing someone in jail for a Hillary Clinton meme.
Starting point is 00:12:38 That's Douglas Mackey who posted a meme. He said it was a joke. They said it was election interference. And what I saw this morning, Caroline, was if that's the case, if that's the standard, well, then by tomorrow we should probably see in jail Jimmy Kimmel. Because he made a joke last night about Republicans should turn out to vote next Thursday and Friday, suggesting they should miss election day and make sure they banked their votes on Thursday or Friday.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And I guess the rules have been set. That's election interference. I'll be very curious to see if the DOJ goes after Jimmy Kimmel. But here's the final thing on this garbage that I wanted to ask you about. At this point, when Hillary Clinton said basket deplorables, I think that really hurt Hillary Clinton. I think it hurt her with people that might have been on the fence
Starting point is 00:13:24 and thinking about which way they may go, Trump, Clinton. When Barack Obama said they're sad and they cling to their guns in their Bible. I actually think that hurt him as well, even though he won the election. I am curious about this garbage comment, not just because it was Biden and not Harris, but at this point,
Starting point is 00:13:42 I wonder how many people are left to swing that this comment can swing. It certainly will offend, let's just put the number at 80 million. That's what we saw in 2020. We'll see what it comes back in 2024. It certainly will offend the people committed to voting for Donald Trump. Like, you call me garbage?
Starting point is 00:13:59 I'm going to make sure I turn out. But I wonder if it has the ability to offend people who were still trying to make up their mind between Kamala and Trump. I think so, because I think people are just done with the rhetoric. They're done with the division. They're done with the chaos of the last four years, and they're not buying these lies anymore.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Again, the Democrat Party has been using them for eight years, and people are sick of it. That's why you see the American people's trust of the mainstream media is at an all-time low. That's why people are tuning in to, alternative podcasts like yours, Wilcane, or like Joe Rogan or other podcasts that President Trump has participated in this election cycle, which is proven to be a very effective media strategy, by the way, I digress. But people are just done with these lies and they lived under
Starting point is 00:14:45 President Trump for four years and our democracy was stronger. They had more money in their pocketbooks. Our border was secure. We didn't have war raging in the Middle East. We didn't have war in Ukraine. And so people are thinking, why are they saying this about this guy? My life was better. We especially see this in minority communities who have been taken advantage of by the Democrat Party for decades, and they are seeing their communities be put last ahead of illegal immigrants who are being put first. And these people are waking up and saying, why am I still supporting these Democrat politicians who are telling me the other guy is Hitler? But under the other guy, I had a lot more money in my pocket, and my life was better.
Starting point is 00:15:20 So it doesn't translate anymore. It's not impactful. And again, I would just reiterate, that's why President Trump is more popular today in 2024, despite all of these lies for eight years than he's ever been because people just don't buy it and they don't trust the media who pushes this propaganda. You don't digress, Caroline. Anytime you want to take a little time to put me and Joe Rogan in the same sentence, I'm happy to indulge you in that little bit of pumping up the Will Kane show.
Starting point is 00:15:45 But you also said it's proven to be a successful media strategy. Now, I'm sure you have a voice in the room in encouraging or discouraging President Trump on where he wants to go. I also know enough as is to you that he's going to. to do what he wants to do and go where he wants to go, but he listens, but he listens and he takes advice and he's curious, oh, why is that show good? What is that show about? But you said it's a very successful, a very successful choice to do all of these podcasts. I am curious about that because I want to know if that's going to be the future of campaigns. And I want to answer my own question
Starting point is 00:16:22 saying that depends on your candidate. Like your candidate, and I think you have two in Vance and President Trump, who are comfortable in those long-form environments and being themselves. And I think the Democrats, if we're just being real, don't have to that they are comfortable with putting in those long-form environments. But what do you have right now, Caroline, to share with me that you would say, this is evidence before Election Day. I think we'll know after Election Day, but now to say, this has been successful, this whole circuit on podcasts.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Well, first of all, you're right. We love what we've been doing. And President Trump loves what he's been doing and sitting down with these podcast hosts. because it does allow for unfiltered, unbiased conversation. And voters love it. People love it. That's why they are tuning in. And every time President Trump has sat down for one of these conversations,
Starting point is 00:17:10 the ratings are off the charts. The podcast shoots up to number one. You saw it with Dave Ramsey, Theo Vaughn, Lex Friedman, Joe Rogan. I mean, it's just numbers bonanza because people want to tune into conversations, again, without the mainstream media's bias, filtering those conversations. And so we've been able to reach an amazing amount of voters through these alternative media platforms in conversations President Trump has been participating in. And I think this is really where he shines.
Starting point is 00:17:38 He's such a great conversationalist. He's a great storyteller. He's obviously lived an amazing life. So there's a lot of great stories to share. And he's not a phony politician who relies on talking points like Kamala Harris, who would be incapable of having a good conversation in settings like this. So it's been a huge advantage for us. It's an open lane.
Starting point is 00:17:56 We've been owning it because Kamala Harris is incapable of jumping in and trying to participate in this lane. And we see that part of that strategy is working. You know, if we look at just the polling, we look at the early vote trends that we're seeing that are incredibly encouraging. I was actually just talking with our data specialists here in the office earlier who said that men are showing up to vote early more than they did in 2020 in the key battleground states. and we're winning the early vote in North Carolina. We're winning it in Georgia. We're doing 20 points better in early voting in Pennsylvania than we were in 2020. We're leading the early vote in Nevada.
Starting point is 00:18:37 So I think people have been listening to President Trump in all of these different venues, listening to his message to get out and vote early. And we're seeing in the data, it is paying off. People are listening and they're showing up and they're casting their ballots for him. Tell me about that conversation you just had with your data guy. Now, Caroline, I have a lot of respect for you. I think you're incredibly smart, and I will be honest with the audience that you and I have a personal relationship, not that we know each other incredibly well, but we've had
Starting point is 00:19:04 conversations off camera, and I've gotten to know you. And so I should lay the groundwork that I respect you. I also know your job, and your job is going to be to tell me what is good about the campaign, not to tell me what is bad about the campaign. So I'm saying that for my benefit and the listener's benefit, because I want to ask you, you have information that I don't have. I understand the inclination of a campaign to paint everything in a positive light, but I am very curious about what you just heard from a data guy.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I look at the numbers, North Carolina, Arizona, Nevada, and I will say from what I see early returns look really good for Republicans compared to past precedent. I don't know about Pennsylvania, Caroline. So whatever you could share, I would really appreciate because I think everybody's trying to get their finger on the polls. When I'm on the street, people go, hey, Will, who's going to win? I'm like, I didn't get the secret ballot memo.
Starting point is 00:19:55 No one told me yet. So, but all we can do is look at this stuff, which I see you might actually have on your phone. I do. Yes, I have the data on my phone. And by the way, this is all public. So I'm not sharing any insider secrets here. I want to preface with that. But this is, these are the facts.
Starting point is 00:20:10 These are the numbers that come in every morning. And again, this is the, these are the early vote trends. So in Arizona, we're running, Republicans are running eight points ahead of Democrats in the early vote. We're running 11 points better than we did in 2020. In North Carolina, we're running one point ahead in early vote, returned mail and early vote party registration and nine points better than 2020. In Nevada, Republicans are leading by five points with the early vote, running nine points better than 2020.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And in Pennsylvania, which I said just are concerned about you shouldn't be, because Republicans are running 23 points better in the early vote in Pennsylvania than we were in 2020. That's the data I have in front of me. We receive it every morning. It's incredibly encouraging. You got it this morning. Where does it come from just out of curiosity? What is that your sighting? So it's the public data that is put out by the Secretary of State's office. Every state releases it differently. So whatever data is publicly attainable to us, our data guy packages it up and sends it out to the team so we can all be on the same page. But every morning we look at that data and every morning, it gets better and better. More and more
Starting point is 00:21:21 Republicans are going out and voting early for President Trump in these key battleground states. You just mentioned Pennsylvania. So as a follow-up, I saw, and what you're sharing with me, I think is much more credible information than me scrolling across something that I see on X. But I did see someone, I think it was Charlie Kirk suggesting the early returns in Pennsylvania showed a heavy lean towards women that maybe young men weren't showing up. And by the way, that's the audience that you're reaching with those podcasts. That's the audience that Donald Trump has done well with, both black, Latino, white, young men. But there seemed to be some concern, well, young men aren't yet showing up. Are you telling me you do not see that in the data?
Starting point is 00:22:01 I actually asked our data guy about that this morning, that particular point, because I saw that on Twitter as well. And he assured me that men are showing up for the early vote in far greater numbers than we saw in 2020. And if this trend holds, we are incredibly cautiously optimistic is the word that we're going to win the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. I think also, too, one thing to point out is that we know, based on past elections, that men typically overwhelmingly show up on election day to vote. With that said, we've obviously been encouraging them to show up early, but we have seen they are showing up in greater numbers in this election than in 2020. So last little bit here, Caroline, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, we could count possibly
Starting point is 00:22:49 Tuesday on days left for you to reach directly out to an audience to a voter in a state is there has been you just spent some time at Madison Square Garden I believe there has been some conversation about New Mexico I don't know if you guys believe that's in play New Mexico will you spend any of these five days this will be my question for you will you spend any of these five days in a state outside the seven that everyone is focused on Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada. We're going to New Mexico today, baby. President Trump is rallying in Albuquerque today.
Starting point is 00:23:28 He'll be in Nevada tonight. He's going to Virginia this weekend is another state that we're playing on offense. And we're going there because we're on offense. Every single battleground state, our internal data in public polling show, President Trump is leading. Let me just say, we are not taking our foot off the gas, taking nothing for granted. We are full steam ahead for the next five days. nobody is sleeping.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I know that's very hard to believe because I'm looking real great this morning, but nobody is sleeping right now. We are out there working literally 20 hours a day right now, not taking a single vote for granted, but we're going to New Mexico today. President Trump will also be in Virginia this weekend because we are on offense
Starting point is 00:24:05 in traditionally blue Democrat-run states. And Kamala Harris is on defense. How do we know that? She's shifting resources around. She's shifted money from Wisconsin to radio in Philadelphia. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. You would think that would be a place that she feels pretty confident in her voter turnout. And then she's also sending Bill Clinton up to my great home state of New Hampshire on Friday, showing New Hampshire could also very well be in play. So we're again, we're on offense. We're optimistic about President Trump's chances on Tuesday. We are taking nothing for granted, leaving no stone unturned. And he's going to be barnstorming the country over the next five days, holding multiple rallies every single day. Right. No one's getting any sleep. That might be in particularly true for Caroline Levitt. How old is your baby? Caroline, you just had a baby while you run a presidential campaign. I did. I did. It's been a crazy year. He is three months old. It is his first Halloween. I'm dressing him as a chicken. And I'm hoping Joe Biden isn't around because I saw Joe Biden bit a child that was just a chicken's leg at the White House Halloween party last night.
Starting point is 00:25:15 three month old baby 24 hour clock campaigning for the presidency you'll be forgiven if you're tired but you don't look it not one bit you look fully energized um as the national press secretary of trump 24th thanks so much for joining us caroline levitt anything for you well thanks for having me great to see you you bet all right there you just heard it that's some fascinating information about the data that i saw caroline pull up right there on their phone her phone as i was asking her the question so i do want to acknowledge for you watching and listening, that when you talk to a campaign, you know, you're always going to get the best version of events. So now let's do this. Let's take everything we just heard. And let's run
Starting point is 00:25:54 it by the former comms director for Democrat House Minority Leader, Hakeem Jeffries. Michael Hardaway also worked for President Obama. And he's next on the Will Cain Show. This is Jason Chaffetz from the Jason and the House podcast. Join me every Monday to dive deeper into the latest political headlines and chat with remarkable guests. Listen and follow now at Fox News Podcast.com. Or wherever you download podcasts. Is it true? Kamala's on defense.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Trump is on offense. With five days to go, where do we stand in the race for president? It's the Will Kane show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page. Hit subscribe so you can join us Election Day, 10 a.m. from a.m. from a.m. in North Carolina. jump into the comments and be part of the show today, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, as we take you through the race for the president. Or if it fits your schedule better to listen on your own
Starting point is 00:26:54 time, just hit subscribe on Apple or on Spotify. Michael Hardaway is a political strategist. He's the former comms director for House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries. He's publisher of the Hardaway Wire. He also formerly worked for President Obama. Michael, great to meet you. I have been informed by some little birds and some spies in the background that while Caroline Levitt was talking here on the Will Cain show, there was some head shaking, there was some disagreement with what she had to say or the way she analyzed the race. Let's just jump into the deep end at the beginning of our relationship. What did she get wrong?
Starting point is 00:27:33 Let me just not say, I'm not going to give you the knee-jerk. Democrats are always right answer. I'm going to give you the real stuff. So look, Donald Trump right now is wasting his time visiting states. he's never going to win and never playing well. If I were him, I'd be focusing on places like Pennsylvania and North Carolina versus these random places he's never going to win. Now, that being said, look, I think from a Democratic perspective, it's obviously
Starting point is 00:27:57 neck and neck. And her support does remain soft among men, particularly black men, even though that's improving. And so she's doing the right thing now. She's been in Milwaukee and Philadelphia and Detroit and all these other places to drive that out. But it is neck and net. It is. And I'll just be honest with you. You think it's a waste of time to put a finer point on it. Caroline Levitt, National Press Secretary for Trump 2024 told us today he will be in New Mexico and over the weekend he will be in Virginia. You're telling me waste of time he'll never win New Mexico or Virginia.
Starting point is 00:28:34 So here's the thing. I didn't say, I'm not talking about those two specific states, but I say to you that, for instance, that New Mexico would be a waste of his time. I don't think that's going to move the needle. I think he probably wins and it's fine. But I do think he should be in like North Carolina. He should be in a Pennsylvania more than any other place. This is my point. And I think the reality is that him showing his face hurts him in some real way because he doesn't seem to be well mentally and the things he says often don't make any sense. Now all that being said, Will, we got to have a real conversation. This is the worst election in presidential history and I'm going to tell you why. because we've not talked about any of the real stuff that matters.
Starting point is 00:29:12 We have a $35 trillion deficit that we've not even talked about. We've not talked about the fact that Donald Trump would add $15 trillion to that. We've not talked about the fact that our next president, whoever it is, is going to inherit a mess around the world. You've got Haiti and chaos. You've got Venezuela and chaos. You've got the situation in Gaza. You've got Israel. You've got a genocide in the Congo.
Starting point is 00:29:36 You've got a genocide and a famine. in the Sudan, and on and on and on. And so as you think about this election and this campaign, no one has actually had to answer for those questions in terms of how they're going to address those as the next American president. And that matters just as much, if not more, than all these things we've been talking about.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Let's talk about substance, then we'll follow up with style. You just pointed out many of the problems globally. And I think, well, we're all, look, there's no doubt that the number one voting issue for Americans is the economy. It's pocketbook. It's kitchen table economics. But the truth is the greatest power of the presidency is dealing with America on a world stage. It's where he has more unilateral power. Most other things, including economic policy, have to be run through Congress, a legislative and an executive body, giving approval to the future path of the country when it comes to the
Starting point is 00:30:31 economy. But presidents are elected for the unforeseeable, and most of the unforeseeable hits us when it comes to the world stage. And I would just add to everything you just rattled off, we should, of course, mention Russia, Ukraine, and China. And you said, whoever is president inherits a mess. What would be the argument for Kamala Harris inheriting something she's already in possession of? You know, this would be like... Okay, so let's separate this. Hold on. This would be just... I'm trying to think of the right analogy.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Like, it's like it's not a child inheriting. the wealth from the parent. It's a business partner who may be the subsidiary business partner, but is asking to become the primary business partner, but she was still a business partner in the business that created this mess. You're talking about inheriting. Yeah, but here's the thing. The American president didn't create this mess. So let's separate this. We've got China, we've got Russia, all those issues. That's what they are. If you look at the situation with Israel and Gaza and Lebanon, every single thing that President Biden did, any American president would have done in terms of all the aid and the decisions made surrounding Netanyahu. It doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:31:40 whether it was Donald Trump or Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. Every single American president would have made those very same decisions. And so none of these things are about Joe Biden. And they're really not partisan in this way because the American president, whomever it is, is going to provide that sort of unshakable support to Israel as it navigates these things. Now, look, you could say, you know, The argument, Michael, is, the argument is that the world reads strength and weakness from the American presidency. And there's been, obviously, I don't, it's not my, it's like, I'm a football analyst sitting in the booth capable of reading the game, but everybody thinks I'm trying to be a pom-pom or cheerleader on the sidelines. What I'm telling you is, if you read the game and see the way it's being played from China to Russia to Iran,
Starting point is 00:32:29 the players seem to say now is a real moment of opportunity. under Joe Biden and Kamala House. It's just not true. Like, if you look at this particular year, for instance, if you look at the leadership Joe Biden has shown as it relates to China and really engage in President Xi in a reasonable and a substantive way,
Starting point is 00:32:47 Donald Trump was unable to do that. If you look at the leadership Joe Biden is shown with Europe and the awards he's received this year, specifically from Germany and others, that speaks to the leadership and respect that he has on the global stage. Look, Donald Trump has no credibility as related to Russia or China or anything around it. It didn't stop Putin.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Let's talk about this. Russia is our clearest adversary. Of course, you have China, but that's a different conversation. Donald Trump on every single issue is on the side of Vladimir Putin, whether that's thinning him ventilators at the beginning of the pandemic when we needed them in America, or whether that's all these sort of random issues and these private conversations he has that violates a hatch act. My question to you would be, as a man who I assume doesn't believe in coincidences happening over and over and over again,
Starting point is 00:33:37 why would Donald Trump be on Russia's side every single time? And how does that project American strength? So I don't think he's on Russia's side every single time. I think that he had Putin not invading Ukraine during his presidency. I think that he had told Europe, you're not going to be taking Russian oil through the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. He told NATO that you're going to have to pony up if you want to bolster up your defense against Russia. that didn't mean he made an enemy of Germany. Hold on. Hold on. You're a very smart guy here. You asked a question. I'm trying to answer your question.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Okay, fair enough. You know, the, this, this issue of, of the world stage is capable being read in real time, in reality. And the American people can look at it. Huh. Here's what it looked like with four years under Donald Trump. Huh. Here's what it looks like with three and a half years of Joe Biden. And it's a stark difference. Michael, it's a stark difference in the stability on the world stage. In what way is it? We weren't involved in all of the... Well, we weren't funding a war in Ukraine. China wasn't running military drills off the coast of Taiwan.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Russia hadn't even invaded Ukraine, much less us funding the defense. China has ramped up their... China has absolutely ramped up their war games off the coast of Taiwan. China, for at least the last 20 years, has been slowly escalating its defense. aggression through every administration. This didn't just suddenly happen with Joe Biden becoming president. Every single administration for at least 20 years has dealt with slowly escalating Chinese aggression. That is a fact. What is there is also a fact is these terrorists that he put in place that Donald Trump put in place during his presidency as it relates to China were completely
Starting point is 00:35:20 ineffective and we lost that war because he had a poor strategy. What's also true is that these new terrorists he wants to put on to a war drive up costs for the American consumer. I don't know if you saw the Washington Post article this week, where the CEO of Columbia essentially said, we're going to drive up prices because of Trump's tariffs. That is a fact. So look, and again, I'm not having this conversation with you from partisan perspective because, look, most of my readers for Hardaway Wire or CEOs, they're moderates on either side, and they want to know facts.
Starting point is 00:35:52 The facts that I'm telling you are the facts that I'm telling them, which is if you look at this from the perspective of the global economy, the American economy, is not. leading all the other large nations in the world as we come out of the pandemic, by far. We have the lowest inflation of most of them. That is also a fact. And if you look at the situation with, you know, sort of Ukraine and Russia, and again, similar to China, this has been a slow escalation. They had nothing to do with Joe Biden being president and everything I think to do with a number of geopolitical factors that Putin thought he could seize. And I think he also said, look, I've got President Xi behind me. I've got a little bit of leeway to make this move,
Starting point is 00:36:32 and I think he made the move. But that's not because anyone thinks Joe Biden is weak. And look, no one thinks Donald Trump is strong outside of the U.S. You've got his sector of Magaites who think he's strong and agree with whatever he says. But functionally, he has no sort of institutional intelligence about any of these matters that he discusses with world leaders, and they know that. They know they can manipulate him. And so that is not good for the United States of America, Will. It just isn't. And the other thing is kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:37:01 It's like we're having a conversation. It's like a pre-match boxing conversation of you analyzing someone's ability to throw punches. This is actually a rematch. We've seen Donald Trump in the ring. We've seen him in the ring. We've seen the way the leaders react to him. You can tell me they're not afraid of him. You can tell me they're not afraid of him.
Starting point is 00:37:19 But I see the way they reacted during four years of his presidency. I see the way the world reacted to Donald Trump. Your perception is not correct, Will. Your perception is based on what you read in the paper. Did Russia invade Ukraine under Donald Trump? What's that? Did Russia invade Ukraine under Donald Trump? I just explained to you how these things come together.
Starting point is 00:37:40 That's not an accurate way of assessing politics, saying, oh, this thing just suddenly happened. It's not the way it ever works. That's not the way this business works. But okay. So what I did this in reverse to you. Hold on, hold on. I did this in reverse to you.
Starting point is 00:37:53 years of that relationship, and that will map to you how we got here. But when I tell you that China is playing war games off the coast of Taiwan, your answer to me is, ah, it happens in every administration. It's always going on. So why is Joe Biden so effective? That is not what I said. That is not what I said. You did. You said it's escalated through every presidency. The past 20 years, they got us to that point, which is a fact. But again, in partnership with the Japanese, in partnership with the Koreans, we are managing that relationship. And I I'd say to you, as it relates to Iran, which you brought up earlier, the JCPOA, the joint comprehensive plan of action, was an incredible sort of bipartisan effort to rein in Iran
Starting point is 00:38:34 that would have been effective. And Donald Trump destroyed that. So again, if we're going to talk about these issues, let's have a larger conversation about why we are where we are. Okay, so Michael, you painted yourself in the course of this conversation as someone who's interested in facts and objectivity and not the partisan perspective. And do you have had a throwaway comment earlier, but I didn't forget it, where you said Donald Trump is unwell. What is your evidence that Donald Trump is... He's not seen his health records. It'd be nice to see them. He's not released them. What's your evidence? A guy who's 78 years old and wants to be president, wouldn't you want to just make sure that he's sound in the mind? That's reasonable,
Starting point is 00:39:15 right? What's your evidence? He's unwell. What? No, no. You shifted the burden of proof now. You made an affirmative statement. He's unwell. He's unwell. What's your evidence. your evidence. Yes. I've looked at his interviews where he can't seem to make a coherent statement, right? I have elderly parents. His conversation that are around his age, his conversation sometimes remind me of theirs. And he is not as well. And he certainly is not fit to leave this country given the responsibilities of the president. Hold on. You're making Blake and say so. I'm asking you, read or answer questions. If you just look at his speeches, just look at the speeches that he gives. That gives you the answer.
Starting point is 00:39:51 All of them, really. Which interview? He rambles. He can't come together with a coherent statement. You know, none of it makes any sense. And again, Will, he can easily dispel this by doing one thing. Release the physical. Take a mental acuity test.
Starting point is 00:40:07 You, I mean, that makes sense, right? Do you think? What is an example you're referencing of him being unwell? Do you think that's fair? This is a thing that everyone says. By the way, I'm telling you nearly every single interview. This is something people say without evidence. I'm asking for evidence.
Starting point is 00:40:25 It makes no sense. He rambles on in a way. Did you listen to Rogan? Do you think it makes sense for this 78-year-old man who wants to represent us for another four years to take a mental acuity and a health test and release it to the public? Well, first of all, I don't know what in a mental acuity test is.
Starting point is 00:40:45 What is that? What test are you referencing? Do you know what a physical is? do? Do you know what the physical is? What do you mean? Is there? He's not released that either. Yeah, it's a physical, about your physical condition. What is a mental acuity test? He's released anything. He's released nothing as it relates to the health. What's a mental an IQ test? What are we talking about? What's a mental acuity test? A physical would be nice. A physical would be nice. An IQ test would be nice. Yes, as well. Those will be two things he's not released
Starting point is 00:41:10 in addition to his taxes and everything else. And a mental acuity test would be nice, yes. Because I'm not convinced that he could pass any of those things. And again, you should be concerned. You want this man to represent you on the global stage, right? But you don't know anything about his health? Not even a little bit. Hey, Michael, I sat in Madison Square. Listen, now, I'm going to tell you about the mental acuity test that I've seen him pass.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I was at Madison Square Garden on Sunday. I saw the truth about whether or not, for example, it was a white, fascist, Nazi rally. I said, I saw him to speak for now and a half. Stop trying to move the goalpost. No. I'm asking you about tests. There's no goalpost being moved. I want to know whether you agree to test.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Keep up. I just want to know whether you agree to test. I've listened to Joe Rogan on three hours, three hours of Joe Rogan. Oh, man, Will, come on. Andrew Schultz, all-in podcast. Andrew Schultz? Michael, to be honest. I just want to know about the test.
Starting point is 00:42:00 All in. Should he take these tests? This is a new vetted candidate for President of the United States and anyone, including your former boss, President Obama. You would shower him with high IQ standards and acuity, but you know what? He never put himself out there as someone who could do a three-hour conversation. I'm sure you give a big speech, but the point is, this is how you do.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Show me his health record. We can't talk over each other. We can't talk over each other. It doesn't work. We'll leave it here. I'm very, very, very confident in Donald Trump's mental acuity. And I think this unwell thing is nothing more than a partisan talking point done, just like you did today with no evidence. And I gave you an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:42:44 I gave you an opportunity to support it. I just saying he gave me nothing. felt this for all of us, we could stop having this conversation if he just release his health records. If he just released all these things he's never done, that's all I'm saying. And by the way, it seems reasonable. I said this for Joe Biden, who's around the same age. Go ahead. Let's go full circle now to what's on the ground happening in Pennsylvania. You mentioned the outset of our interview that Kamala Harris might be having some weakness
Starting point is 00:43:07 when it comes to black men. I just was talking to Caroline Levitt about turnouts in North Carolina and Pennsylvania, early voting, mail-in balloting. There is some suggestion, and I put it to her, yeah, that's great that Donald Trump does well with young men, but young men may not be turning out. Women turn out and women, at least in early voting, support Kamala Harris. Do you think men will, and let's talk about specifically black men, will forget polling and what they may tell a man on the street interview. Show up at the voting booth and support Donald Trump. You know, it's interesting. Like, dude, I had this conversation nearly every day for the past month and a half of people.
Starting point is 00:43:45 And, like, I think overall black people will turn out in large numbers. I think black men, you'll see, you know, 78% or so support her. I think overall, she will have significant support. I don't know that it'll be like Joe Biden numbers. But I think for her, listen, she has to patch together this group of people to win. White women are the largest voting black in America. She has to do reasonably well with them. she's not doing as great with white men
Starting point is 00:44:15 but she hasn't do reasonably well with them she's I think she's north of 85% with black women and I think with black men so long as she gets like you know around 80% or so she'll be perfectly fine I do think ultimately black men would turn out wouldn't that be
Starting point is 00:44:31 that would be lower than than historical averages either way though right didn't Joe Biden get 90 89 90% so either way I don't recall what he had yeah I don't recall what he had yeah I I don't look. It's lower for Kamala. I think if we're being honest, Will, Democrats have not done
Starting point is 00:44:49 well in terms of engaging men in general. And specifically black men and like when I have this conversation with friends back home, I think the people overall feel that Democrats don't really engage us in a continual way, that they should have show up at the end of an election and say, hey, vote for us. And that is problematic. Now look, I think from a Republican perspective, of black men and large numbers will not go there with a guy like Donald Trump, just because of a number of things. I do think that, you know, if Republicans were smart,
Starting point is 00:45:22 they'd say, look, after this election, let's figure out a way to engage black men with some reasonable candidates. I see Byron Donald's out there on a regular basis. I think for them that's smart. But, you know, look, overall black men will still support her, but I think for Republicans, you guys probably do have an opportunity
Starting point is 00:45:39 to engage if it's in a real way and not this like superficial way that both parties always give us every election. If it's 70% black men for Kamala Harris, that's 30% for Donald Trump, that would be eye-opening. That would be really big. And that would be worth of analysis.
Starting point is 00:45:56 But the question is, does that show up at the voter polls? Not at the booth, not just in polling. Today I say yes. Two weeks ago, I would have said, I don't know. And the reason is that the campaign has spent the last eight or nine days, like with on the ground events nearly every day in the battlegrounds targeting black men in Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania specifically targeting black men. And I've heard that they've had great interest and traction there.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I don't know also if you saw the NAACP released a poll a few days ago that showed that Donald Trump's support with black men has slowly fallen over the past two weeks. And I think probably that's in part because of the engagement the Harris campaign has has had with black men over the last week or so. All right, Michael Hardaway, again, he's the former comms director of the House Minority Leader, Democrat Hakeem Jeffries. If Democrats take the House, he would be a majority leader. And what did you do, staffer, advisor to President Obama, Michael? I did a million things.
Starting point is 00:47:00 So I started with him on the Senate campaign, Chicago, and then went all the way up through the first term. So probably six or seven things. All right. Well, I appreciate the spirited debate today, the back and forth. Wait, is it over? Well, come on, man. I was just getting started. Well, that was like, that was a half hour. But I promised to have you back if you're up for it. This is great, Will, thank you.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yeah, love to have you back. Michael Hardaway, thanks so much for being on the Will Kane show. Yeah, it's over because I got Tommy Smokes waiting in the wing, and he's about to twist off on the Yankees. And the question is whether or not it was just even better not to make the World Series. Next on the Will Kane Show. This is Jimmy Phala, inviting you to join me for Fox Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas.
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Starting point is 00:48:24 streaming live at fox news.com on the fox news youtube channel on the fox news facebook page hit subscribe at apple spotify or on youtube i'm talking about this story um of jimmy kimmel last night telling republicans to vote in bulk next thursday and friday i was looking at some of the comments really quickly under, I just posted this on X. People say, relax, Will, it's a joke. Yeah, that's the point. Guys, Newark, you familiar with that case of Douglas Mackey? You know what I'm talking about? Douglas Mackey was sent to jail for a meme that he posted about Hillary Clinton. Yeah, he went to jail, man.
Starting point is 00:49:01 And his defense was, Mackie's defense was, I was joking. It was like satire, you know. And they were like, no, not good enough. You, um, here's it, here it is. Let me just give you what Wikipedia, because I don't have time to look up the exact things. And I know the exact terms of the case, but, uh, and I know how seriously we need to take Wikipedia's repetition of something. But listen to this. Um, according to Huff Post and a team of data scientist, uh, Vaughn, his, his, um, alias was Ricky Vaughn from like, you know, Major League. And he was, yeah, he has a burner.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Yeah, he has a burner. Be careful, James. He was convicted for conspiring to deprive citizens of their right to vote by joking about showing up at the wrong time for Hillary Clinton. I mean, it's almost on the nose here for what Jimmy Kimmel did. And so if your response to me is, relax, Will, it's a joke, tell Douglas Mackey about joking. The oldest joke in the book is tell the Democrats the elections on Wednesday. Can't do that.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Straight to jail. straight to jail that seems to be the um that's the it might be the position of barstools Tommy smokes upset I went to social media last night very upset with I don't know Tommy Aaron Boone Brian Cashman I know you're mad at um Aaron Judge because he can't catch a ball I know you're are you mad at Garrett Cole was that what do you think Tommy was that Garrett Cole's fault he didn't run it out to first
Starting point is 00:50:33 that fifth inning was an embarrassment that play was probably the worst It was more Garrett Cole's fault than Anthony Rizzo's fault, but I don't think it's 100 to 0. Like, I do think Rizzo could have done a better job charging the ball, still running to first. Garrett, that, it's tough that that play will get all of it because Garrett Cole pitched so well. Like his defense let him down. Right. Back that he even got out of the inning and then got another five outs, I think is crazy. As for who I'm mad at, I think just the world.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I think I'm just mad at the whole organization. like top to bottom, just an organizational failure from top up. I think Aaron Boone, and if I had to pick a guy, when you just have a team that is so fundamentally defunct year after year where they run into outs, they can't field the baseball, just fundamentally, fundamentally terrible, at a certain point you've got to look at the least common denominator and be like, that's the guy in charge of the clubhouse.
Starting point is 00:51:32 That fifth inning was so bad, man. And, I mean, I get what you're saying. I'd feel the same way. If my team, it's like a football coach who's, I don't know, offensive line keeps committing false start penalties, whatever. Like that, when you have that many mistakes, it does at some point. You're like, who's in charge of this? Because, okay, so Judge makes a bad play.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Like, that's like a physical mistake. You know, I was a total bench scrub college athlete in a sport that nobody gives a shit about, water polo. But one of my buddies was, like, super good. and he's like, if you make a physical mistake, nobody gets mad. People make physical mistakes. Mental mistakes, that's like the one where it's like, what the hell. And I think both the other place, the first base runout and the toss to third,
Starting point is 00:52:15 that's kind of in between physical and mental, but like that place should have been made. Yeah, that one I almost get the least mad at because his body was going a third, like all the momentum's going a third there. The judge one I actually am mad at. I know it's like physical play. It's a bad play. Catch the ball. Catch the ball.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And it's one thing if he'd, if he's been Aaron judge in the playoffs, then you would be like, okay, that's fine. And I know he hit the home run last night. It looked like his bat was starting to come around. But to have as bad of a playoffs as he did and then to just drop a ball, just inexplicably drop a ball. And that is the one that started everything. Otherwise, there had been two outs, I believe, nobody on. I mean, that's like a butterfly effect where you just can't, you just can't drop that baseball. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Is part of your anger influenced at all? Mine has been this week, Tommy, and we can get into this, with nicotine withdrawal. Are you still vaping? Are you still Tommy smokes? Do you have nicotine running through the blood? So this is my first time, actually, back on a Fox News program since then, since I know. So it's an honor.
Starting point is 00:53:23 No, so when I went on Laura Ingraham, she did say, we'll check back in with you in six years. And it'll be six years in like two weeks. So if she wants to check in, it'll be six years exactly. But no, I'm off that. I'm more of a Lucy man now. I don't mind the pouches. I've seen you guys pumping those up over a barstool. Is that like Zen?
Starting point is 00:53:46 Lucy, that's what that is? Yeah, very similar. I quit three days ago. Very angry this week. Three, I have no control over it. It's not good. Yeah, that's honestly the worst part. I told myself after the Yankee season, like, I'll start making healthier choices.
Starting point is 00:54:01 I'll go to the gym. I'll wake up early. I don't want to do any of that. I don't want to do that. I don't want to keep living the life. The way I like living life. And now, not only the Yankees losing, now I've got to get myself together.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Hey, Dan, while Tommy and I are talking, I know we didn't produce this because, hey, what do we produce on the Will Cane show? But we've got to get that clip of Tommy on Laura Ingram while we're talking. So six years ago, man. So you, I'm surprised, by the way, we have you, well. Did Laura know you were going to do that? Did she know you go on to Laura Ingram? You've got
Starting point is 00:54:37 a vape. You're vaping the whole time. You're blowing huge clouds of vape dust and mist in the air. Did she know you were going to do that? I don't think so. Like I posted a minute long parody Jewel Triggs video to my Instagram as a joke set to Sicko mode by Travis Scott. And like an hour later, just by the grace of God, the FDA banned flavored jewel cigarettes. So a producer for a girl who worked on the program, DM me on Instagram was like, hey, do you want to come defend the youth in like a debate about vaping? And I think she might have known I was kidding, but I don't think the doctor or Laura knew. I think they figured it out pretty quickly that I might not have been a diehard vapor, but going into it, I don't think they expected that. We got to get you booked
Starting point is 00:55:25 in two weeks. Oh, here it is. Is this a still shot, Dan, or can we play? Here we go. Here's you six years ago with Laura Ingram. It can cause brain developmental abnormalities in kids. It can cause concentration problems, memory problems, problems with decision-making, anxiety, depression. So it really can have a significant toll on children. And it's really important that we educate parents and educate children and students just to stay away from smoking. All right, but the argument from the big lobbying organizations pushing vaping is that it's not that you don't get the tar, right, in your lungs that you get from a regular cigarette. It doesn't matter, but you are inhaling propylene glycol, formaldehyde, traces of metals and chemicals which can cause upper respiratory tract infections, asthma flare-ups, COPD, which can allow you to have trouble breathing beyond oxygen tanks and put some people in the emergency. see room um all right so Tommy smokes has got a vape god hat on as she's listing off things like
Starting point is 00:56:34 coppd she gives a shrug formaldehyde no biggie and then you're double fisting uh vapes and choking it down yeah it was not it was not a big thing that was hard I'm surprised you have to run every guest hey did you guys run Tommy through media relations did you get the thumbs up approval to get him on the show today I wouldn't be surprised if he was on a blacklist for a little while. He wasn't allowed to come on Fox. No, we got him. Well, I don't know, Tommy.
Starting point is 00:57:01 I don't know. But, yeah, you got to prove. Six years. Everyone afterwards at, like, I did that from your guy, from Fox News H.Q in New York City. Everyone afterward was, there was one lady who wasn't too thrilled. She was like, did we vet you through anything? But other than that, everybody was kind of like, oh, that was funny. And then one guy even was like, oh, that was like an SNL skit, I felt like.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Then they did it like two days later. So he was kind of premonition there. So we got to get you on in two weeks here for the anniversary. I'll be after the election. Laura could do a little time. She'd give a little time to that. You said something in your video last night when you're mad, which I found kind of fascinating.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Do you sincerely think it would have been just better to lose in the ALCS? Like, you're a big Yankees fan. I get it. You know, there's some, my guys on the show who are big Yankees fans, they try to make some comp to the Cowboys. but I'm like, look, man, we haven't won in 30 years. So, crime a river with your 15 years. But I guess would I feel that way if we went to a Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:58:03 and we lost the Super Bowl, what I'd have been like, what's the point in even getting here? I don't know. I think you will, because it's been that. And I mean, especially, I mean, the Cowboys are like the Yankees and the sense of people just love to hate them. They love to see them fail. And you're failing on the biggest stage.
Starting point is 00:58:19 And, you know, the way they lost last night would be like if, you know, Oh, sorry. The way they lost last night would be like a shit. My, I guess this was an auto-censor room light. The way they lost last night. Through an interception late in the game or something where you give them so much material to the haters. So that's, and I also think that if they lost in like the ALDS to the Royals,
Starting point is 00:58:46 then it would have been easier to make changes because you could be like, well, they couldn't even get past the AL-Central. I think it's harder to make changes now that they're, They went to the World Series, and I think they just need to make changes. I love your cockiness. I love owning the bad guy thing. I heard you last night. I don't understand, like, why can we can't, yeah, buy everybody, re-signed Soto.
Starting point is 00:59:05 I know what's going on. It hurts that the Dodgers are a better version of the bad guy than you are. They're better at the thing that you're supposed to be the best at. Yeah, the Yankees are in a mode of, we'll just be good enough. We'll be good enough. We'll assemble the team that can maybe, you know, because they always say, oh, the playoffs are so random. Let's get to the playoff, see what can happen, things like that. The Dodgers are just like the old school Yankees of, we're not going to be good enough.
Starting point is 00:59:32 We're going to be the best. We're going to leave no holes in our roster. We're not going to hope for luck to be on our side and hope we can get past inferior opponents. We're just going to be the best team. And if we play our best, you can't beat us. And you also can't beat us if you beat yourselves like the Yankees kept doing. All right. Tommy is the host of the Smoke Show on Barstool.
Starting point is 00:59:53 aren't you also one of the host of audio crack or are you just a guest on there with billy football are you doing audio crack with billy football okay frequent guest on audio crack he has the smoke show at barstool uh great to have you back on fox for the first time in six years i am going to send a note to get you back in two weeks for the anniversary that'd be incredible thank you great to be back thanks for having me all right thanks Tommy smokes here on the will cane show all right uh that's going to do it for me today um i'd love to see the comments. Hold on. Let me see, Dan. Did you post any? I want to see what people thought about the conversation with Michael Hardaway. We'll get some for tomorrow. There wasn't, there's a lot to
Starting point is 01:00:34 go over. Y'all can do the show tomorrow. I'm not going to do the show tomorrow. I forgot what day was, sorry. Yankees lost on my... I'm headed to Georgia. I have a diner in Watkinsville, Georgia. I'm going to be a Joe and Sam's. I might just have the governor of Georgia, Brian Kemp, and we're going to be talking to voters as we head into Election Day. But we'll be here next week, same time, same place. I'll see you next time. the world, it is five days a week, every week. Download and listen at foxnewspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast.

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