Will Cain Country - Kellyanne Conway: Will The Rest Of President-elect Trump's Cabinet Get Confirmed? PLUS, Should Elon Musk Buy MSNBC?

Episode Date: November 25, 2024

Story #1: Weekend Quick Hits: Should Elon buy MSNBC? What would that mean for the rest of the media? Mayor Glenn "Kane" Jacobs warns Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson to steer clear of politics. Plus, the importance of squirrel hunting. Story #2: The movement to stop child trafficking makes its way to Time Square. From the big screen to the streets of New York to make sure the victims are being seen: A conversation with Former Wall Street Trader and Movie Financier, John Devaney. Story #3: Now that former Congressman Matt Gaetz is out of the running for Attorney General, what does that mean for other picks like Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hegseth, and RFK, Jr.? Plus, is Vice President Kamala Harris preparing another presidential run in 2028? Will sits down with Senior Advisor to President-elect Donald Trump & host of Here's The Deal on FOX Nation, Kellyanne Conway. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show!Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, Elon Musk says he may buy MSNBC. What does that mean for Rachel Maddow? What would that mean for Joe Scarborough? What would that mean for Fox? Two, the child trafficking scandal makes its way and makes its way seem. in Times Square of New York City. You've got to hear about the movement to make sure that this tragedy,

this scandal, is seen. Three, after Matt Gates, what are the prospects for Tulsi Gabbard? What are the prospects for Pete Hegg said? Speaking of moving into the future, thinking about 2028, what are the prospects for Kamala Harris? We'll break it down with Kelly Ann Conway.

It is the Will Kane show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page, always on demand, by subscribing it Apple or on Spotify. We're joining us every Monday through Thursday. You can be part of the Volusia by subscribing on YouTube. A little button underneath the text description of this live stream for subscribing to the Will Kane show. I was not nominated to the Secretary of Agriculture. I was not nominated to the Secretary of College Football, nor the Secretary of Squirrel Hunting. That's not why I was off of Fox and Friends weekend. But instead, I was squirrel hunting this weekend in East Texas.

Record year there at Toledo Bin, group of 15, 16 guys, all somewhat loosely related, harvested three squirrels. Now, I have come to know many of you out there in the audience. I've come to realize that many of you don't like the idea of something dying, no matter how natural. But it's just part of the case. And after peanut the squirrel, I understand the sensitivities fellas in New York.

I understand the sensitivities around squirrels whenever I've posted, for example, about my sweet dog Violet chasing squirrels around Dallas. little bit taken aback. I'm a little shocked by the response from the audience. But, I mean, dogs are supposed to chase squirrels and dudes are supposed to hunt. And hunt we did this weekend in East Texas. For the fourth annual squirrel hunt in catfish rodeo, record year when it came to the tree rats. Three squirrels harvested, fried, and eaten, fellas. Doesn't seem like a lot. now harvested by the Willisha. You know

Dan, it's a record year, getting three squirrel. If you We've only ever gotten one. If you set anyone out in Central Park and cleared it out and for one day made the use of a shotgun there illegal, I feel like we could get like 10.

It's true. You see them everywhere. That's what one would think, not just in Central Park, James. One would think that would be the case in Dallas, Texas, or any other urban environment. They're running along my fence line. They're driving my dog bananas on walks across Dallas. She's very active in chasing squirrels.

But once you get out in the nature and into woods, it's odd. It's shocking. Where are the squirrels? Maybe we should ship some Springfield, Ohio. Some from Dallas? Yeah, to Dallas. You got three more than the New York Department of whatever. well we talked about killing them in the city freezing them taking them out to the woods and winning the competition

because it is a competition here your winners chase and david they brought him three together david's our big winner he brought in three squirrels now i was proud uh because what this is about in the end is about if we're being real it's about uh fatherhood fellowship college football campfires and nature and i was proud that here's uh my son charley just dove right in man he dove right into cleaning a squirrel. And, you know, based upon our past, no one's a real big expert at field dress in a squirrel. But, I mean, it's a little bit like going back to biology class. And he did a great job. And we took these squirrels. It's an impressive work, man. And we took the squirrels. I mean, that is a skinned and clean squirrel. And they made their way to the friar.

as you can see now what do you take away from that squirrel there that is rough not eating that is that fried it looks horrible yeah of course it's fried this is uh hindquarters of a squirrel you can see the two the two uh thighs and legs yeah and then and then right there in the middle right there between his legs uh so is that rfk approved it's a bit it's it's not the most it what i'm not sharing you with the most endowed squirrel you've ever seen in your life that's a tail this one has a little tail come along with it the proportions the catfish part of the rodeo not quite as bountiful this year but we did have enough and we brought in 11 11 to 15 catfish and and you know run them off the trot line skin them fry them up as well that's really good

by the way the squirrel we all ate a little bit of squirrel and i'm gonna tell you right now it's gamey chicken that's what it is it's a little darker meat than chicken but that's what everybody says compare everything a lot of people in the chat we're wondering what it tastes like i'm not afraid of squirrel and if that were the only thing that we were that were available you'd be all right i mean even even taste wise you know i could give you guys squirrel but if you have options you guys are not going to be excited about squirrel but now catfish is a delicacy these bottom feeders make for good eating have you guys had catfish fried catfish surely Patrick lives in Florida

I believe I have maybe right yeah I mean that's a staple um it's uh it's it's really really good what is that picture

come on now no no forks and knives it's tail I think I told my that's the inside that I told my wife not to watch this episode because I told her you're going squirrel hunting she's a vegetarian not so happy about it yeah well here's how it goes down friday night at the squirrel hunt it's

a bunch of campfire stakes on the grill you know there we go and this is uh this this is what it's all about man i mean this is if i'm you like my son's sweatshirt let's go this is uh he's all in he's all in uh uh never surrendered uh trump sweatshirt um it's it's it's fellowship man we took my son he made it yet to be 13 to go and um you know we we convinced him his initiation was he had to be branded by the campfire and friday night uh so we got his arms pinned back and and he thought that there was going to be a coat hanger brand but there was not it's just some camo paint um applied to his face we caught a raccoon we named him fred in honor of the late great fred in new york city um yeah um yeah i'm gonna tell you something raccoons are pretty pretty cute um um

But yeah, man, it's sitting around, you know, it's riding four-wheelers off into the, to the lake. It's, um, you know, those four-wheels, by the way, can go, they're, they're awesome. They're incredible. They can go deep. You can ride deep out into Toledo Bend, which is a pretty shallow lake. It's me spending time with my boys. It's nature. It is, it is hunting, it's fellowship, it's prayer before meal, and it's college football on Saturday.

It is, there's just something about that that men need to be a part of. Have you guys, any of you guys hunt at all? Have you been hunting? I have not. Shot skeet before? A lot of friends of mine do, but I have not. That's it. White tail in Connecticut.

Tinfoil? No. No. Well, there's something, we, by the way, we shot trap. We shot Skeet. There's just something about this is what I really encourage you. Like, just, it's the combination.

of a couple of things like you and nature together first of all you quiet in nature whether not that's you sitting in a duck blind listening but not that's you walking through the woods looking in the tree tops paying attention to what's moving well not that's you sitting in a deer stand even and just quiet listening to the woods it is um you and in nature that's a possum we also caught a posth nasty animals by the way if during apocalypse No. Ranking what you're going to eat, squirrel, you know, catfish one, squirrel two, raccoon, three, possum, if we're starving.

We did not eat that possum that we caught. Gross. But first of all, you and nature. And then, secondarily, you with your buddies, fellowship. I mean, it's really something. You know, man's been sitting around a campfire for eternity, looking at the flames, lick up with nothing to do or say, and it's mesmerizing, and there's a reason. And you don't need a TV, and your phone doesn't come out.

your pocket except to change the music on the on the station if you're playing music and of course we are playing you know guess the greatest country and western song um and then and then just you know family and doing something together that forces a togetherness it's absolutely it's absolutely awesome um in the end it isn't about the squirrels it's about me and my boys and my friends all out there in the woods and and in nature and I would highly encourage you guys to find whatever it is. Yeah, man, it is spiritual. We had a trap shooting contest.

We ranged from very good to horrific out there. But my son, West, who's never, I don't think he's ever hit a target, his very first shot. We played knockout. Do you guys know what knockout is if you've ever shot trap or skeet? Knockouts where you get in a line, you shoot one, one is released. And you have to shoot in order. And if the guy before you misses and you hit it, he's out of the game. It's like in basketball.

Same as basketball knockout, you know. My son West had the best, I'd say the best shooter in front of him. And he hit it, the best shooter. But he left a big chip. So if you can knock the chip, then you knock him out. And West first shot blew up the remnants, blew up the chip, knocked out the best shooter. I think it's the only one he hit all day.

And it was pure dumb luck. but he dusted the remnants. So incredible year for the 2024 squirrel hunt and catfish radio. It's been a big weekend. And we want to get you to the news. We've got several big stories to hit you with as we come back with quick hits across the news. Story number one. All right, here we go.

It's quick hits from the weekend. We're going to let Don tinfoil pat take us away. hit him with some music two a days, and hit us with the story's tinfoil. Keep it peppy. Will, I'm going to give you the story that everyone wants to hear. The people in the comments want this story. And that story is Elon Musk, will he buy MSNBC? He and Joe Rogan were on X this weekend.

And Elon Musk said the most entertaining outcome, especially if Ironic, is most likely in response to him potentially buying MSNBC. and Joe Rogan follow that up by saying if you buy MSNBC I would like Rachel Maddow's job I'll wear the same outfit and glasses I'll tell the same lies what do you have to say about Elon and maybe evening Joe

Evening Joe That's Joe Rogan's evening Joe on MSNBC All right well first of all let's acknowledge Comcast has said they're going to spin off MSNBC I'm sure there are business reasons for Comcast looking to spin off MSNBC, all of which are probably above my head. But I've heard it guessed about the different types of things that can do for the stock and spinning away, not just MSNBC, but oxygen, sci-fi channel, CNBC, and MSNBC.

Bill O'Reilly is out there. He has theorized that the reason that Comcast would want to spend off MSNBC is that it's depressing the stock and the capabilities of NBC, their reputation, that it's full of hateful rhetoric. It's hurting NBC. Now, I think NBC is responsible from a lot of its own loss of credibility, but there's a difference between just being, I don't know, agenda-based and maybe even propaganda-based versus pure, utter insanity, insanity spewed on MSNBC. Rachel Maddow, did you guys read? She's going to take a $5 million pay cut. She makes $30 million a year to do a once-a-week show.

just on Monday. And then she comes and she joins. It's a really good gig. Where do you get that gig? It's like Howard Stern now. It's better than Howard Stern because how many days a week does Howard Stern do two days? I don't know. I think he does like four shows a month, maybe three.

Really? Is he down to that few? I think he's down to that few. They replay a lot of stuff on Howard Stern. When I was used to, I used to listen to Howard Stern and he was four days and then I felt like he started doing three days a week. I didn't realize he'd reduced it even further. I think it's down further, yeah. And what is he making over at Sirius?

Is he like $100 million a year? Yeah, look up what Howard Stern makes. I mean, Rogan's like at $50 million, but he does five shows a week, right? What do you got on Alex Stern? $130 million annual salary. Wow. Annual salary for Howard Stern. $130 million.

Okay, well, you're paying for that archive is what you're doing. Yes. Good point. yeah you are paint that archive also look I think Howard is a little old lady who's insane and afraid of her shadow but that wasn't who he always was and he became the pretty much the reason for a serious subscription if you're being real like and I've had serious subscriptions um free when you buy a new car sometimes or something like that you get it for 90 days or whatever it may be the only time I paid for Sirius was the feeling of necessity that I needed to have, well, I wanted ESPN

National Radio because I was on ESPN National Radio, because I wanted to listen to Howard Stern. And so he's the flagship. He's the main reason for a subscription on Sirius. In the same way, if you're being real, Rachel Maddow is that, she is that for MSNBC. Like, her doing debate night coverage or election night coverage is super important to them. I would guess probably Scarborough is second, right? And then it doesn't matter. Like, I don't, Joy Reid is not the face of your network. Chris Hayes is not the face of your network.

You cannot. Can you imagine if Maddow left, maybe Scarborough? Like, they literally have no face of the network whatsoever. Now, you could argue the ratings are so bad. What's the point anyway? You know, it's like, but that's like the Cowboys getting rid of the star on their helmet. That's what Rachel Maddow is to MSNBC. Now, Elon, let's be real.

When this started at Twitter, it was a guy on Twitter who said, hey, why don't you buy Twitter? And he said, how much is it? And that sort of let it off. And he ends up buying Twitter. And he goes in and he absolutely cleans how. So I don't think that any of us, including the talent in MSNBC, should presume this is ridiculous concept.

I don't think he's interested in yesterday's technology. and yesterday's media, even if it's a melting iceberg, meaning it can still bleed off and be profitable. It is profitable, by the way. MSNBC is profitable. So even if it makes money and he wants to, and Joe Rogan, by the way, doesn't want to do a nightly MSNBC show.

So I don't think in the end, even though it easily could happen, I don't think any of them really want for that to happen. What's up to it, A's? What would he rename it? People are wondering in the chat, ex-NBC? Absolutely.

Just X. Just X? He'd name it X. There's no doubt. The X channel. The X channel. Yeah. Yeah.

He loves the letter X. Loop it in. It goes back to some... I don't even think it's co-branding. XNN sometimes. Yeah, I just think... Remember the... He wanted to develop an app

before he bought X, and they're saying this is over the long term what he wants to do with X, although I don't see we've done this, it becomes the everything app that's what he wants he wants the everything app where you do your banking your media your social networking everything in one spot uh and before he bought it he had that's what he had that's what he was calling x that's like his he loves that branding he loves that to be so i he'd call him as nbcx they just added without it out they just added a feature where the money that you get for x payments you can now send other accounts and they they basically want to have it so in the long term you could basically have your bank account and like

your zell or venmo system on x and there's there's you see it in screen time too like i think average x user ship in the past year is like up like 60 70 percent and i think that's a low ballpark he's got it i hope it's been everything that into the everything app it's in the early stage i mean i hope it does become that all right so we got some great apps real real Quick, Patrick. Apps are like TV shows. I've got so many that I can't, I'm saturated. I can't adopt new apps very well. I was telling you guys, I'm going to do this later in the week. I've got so many TV shows that I've started that when people tell me there's a new one, like everybody's telling me I need to watch Landman. Well, I've got the penguin going and I've lost

track of where I am in it. And I've forgotten other shows that I'm in on. I literally can't remember. I need to take inventory of shows that I've started. And I didn't dislike. I didn't walk away from them because I disliked them. I walked away from them because I'm saturated. I forget that there's a show. And that's the way it is with apps. So, like, what's the app everybody was talking about? Oh, everybody, you guys need to get on this chat GPT app.

Because my brother's on it. It was shocking what he was doing around the campfire. It's shocking. He came up with the logo for the Wollisha in 15 seconds. That was pretty awesome. You know, and we got a graphics department who's great at 5. but that would take two months We would never say that

We would never say that To run through approvals I mean there's a lot of A lot of voices You know a lot of opinions But that would I mean literally it's 20 seconds That chat GPT

All right Patrick Tinfoil take it away What else you got? We got some more great stuff here Now the view Our favorite co-hosts Sunny Houston Now she was on PBS This is probably an older clip

but she found out about her ancestry we're going to play the clip now take it away tin foil or uh that's me take it away two a days wow what's wrong with you i'm i'm i'm a little bit in shock i just always thought of myself as puerto rican you know have puerto i didn't think i was uh my family was originally from spain and slaveholders yeah so how are you feeling my friend um i just um i think it's actually pretty interesting that my husband and I have shared roots. Yeah. So I do appreciate

that. And I think it's great for our children to know this information. So you think this clip, okay, so she finds out shocking, shocking, shocking. She, ancestors that were slave owners. It's just not shocking to anybody. Like, do you

think that's shocking to her? You have to understand. You go, if you you're, if you're mixed race at all, you're going to get there. Like, you're going to get there. By the way, even if you're not mixed race, like, you're going to get back to some point where one tribe enslaved another tribe at some point in your history, is there a genealogy of angels that people think they're appreciative, they're a part of, or solely victimhood?

Like, I am only a victimhood, deep roots, victimhood from the beginning, oppressed, from the beginning. is that Patrick, you think she's what'd you say she's a bad poker player it's all over her face that how she's feeling?

Yeah, you can see it with the legal reads that she has to do you can see it here it's just like oh, that's great it's just what I need. It's all in the eyes.

It's all in the eyes. I told you guys before like I knew Sonny a little bit back at CNN and she was really nice. like behind the scenes very friendly you know she's a lawyer

and you know she she uh she was kind of like I don't want to say milk toast but down the middle on her commentary and there's something that happened at the view here's what I think she just got fame and she saw it and it's like

it's like a tweet oh that went viral do more of that she just saw the incentive and leaned real hard into it and she's way out over her skis of authenticity. She's way out over. You know what I mean? She's not being authentic, so she has to keep leaning into this brand over and over and over. All right, one more. What do you have, tinfoil? Real, real, really fast, really quick takes. Glenn Jacobs of front of the show, he is trying to talk the rock out of joining politics. He says that it is very divisive right now. It is not something you want to get into. And,

that Dwayne should think twice before joining. What do you say? Well, we interviewed both of these gentlemen. We've had Glenn Jacobs, aka Kane from WWE, now the mayor of Knoxville, on the show. He's a friend of the Will Kane show. And I think it's fair to say that Dwayne Johnson

is a friend of the Will Kane show. He's been on twice. He's broke news here on the Will Kane show in several occasions about his interest in running for president or whether or not he would endorse Joe Biden. I actually think Glenn Jacobs is right. Like, I don't see any. I don't think the Rock will run for president.

I don't see the upside of it for him. He's not at 100% approval rating, but he's well over the edge of, like, majority approval rating. Why go this way? I don't know if he could win either. I don't put anything past like a celebrity pop star being able to win in the future, bud, I don't know how you do that.

You kind of need to have a killer instinct. You can't do it. He's too nice. He wants to be liked. Yeah. Yeah. He does have a killer. He's got a good heart.

You didn't see him? It's hard to say the Rock. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to say, right. It's hard not to say he has a killer instinct, right? All right, yeah, I would do the same as Kane. I would tell the Rock, stay away from politics. Okay, let's take a quick break.

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He's the founder of Manor House films. This weekend, John and several others are going to bring awareness to the human trafficking, child trafficking scandal when they unleash the Can You See Me campaign in New York City. John, thanks for being here on the Will Kane show. Tell me about what's going to happen this weekend or this weekend Time Square. Yeah, exactly. Great to be here with you. Yeah, exactly. City of Dreams is a very, very touching and moving film about a young boy who is trafficked across the Mexican border, held into a sweatshop.

This is all based on a true story in L.A. And it's about the courage that this young boy had to fight for his freedom and for the freedom of others. Just as an aside, I'm a new filmmaker. I've invested about 35 million in two films. I'm a financier, and I own a broker-dealer called United Capital Markets. We've traded about 75 billion of RMBS, CNBS, and ABS bonds, all the stuff that kind of blew up the world in the financial crisis. I've a very, very blessed man, and I've had a wonderful life.

And now I've turned some of my sites on raising awareness on topics like this that, well, they need business leaders and people to focus on them. This is just awful. It's awful that child trafficking possibly could have increased in the United States of America by 400 percent higher. It pains me to think this, that this could have unraveled over about six years. And it is true what you've heard, that much of this is from very flawed policies at our border and has to do with some of the immigration. There were many unaccompanied minor. children that came to our border in Suburbans. Traffickers ran ads in poor countries. They charged $3,000 bucks ahead. They'd bring 12 of the kids to the border. And they would give the kids names, numbers. And the government didn't realize that the names and numbers were other bad guys on the other side. And as crazy as this is, lots of whistleblowers have now uncovered this and reported it. There's been hundreds of thousands of kids that were given to bad guys.

and now they're in labor trafficking, sex trafficking, and I said, hey, like, somebody's got to help with this issue. And so I put my voice and some of my resources behind this film. We've partnered with A-21. They likely are the number one trafficking, anti-trafficking organization in the world. They've got amazing partners. They've got all these media partners that recently donated free space that's worth millions of dollars. in Times Square, there's many of us out there. There's big media partners and people that are all coming together to try to put a stop

to the increase and figure out how to save these kids. So our movie is out on Amazon now. What's this going to be? In Times Square, John, this Can You See Me campaign? We know about City of Dreams, by the way. We've had Tony Robbins on the show to talk about the movie. but this this latest update is can you see me in time square what's this going to be well they are can you see me is a very big campaign a 21 won awards for this campaign um uh and how it's

raised awareness of prevention so that they've got amtrak they've got the port authority they've got the they've got 10 or 15 partners that are donating all this free ad space. So can you see me as a campaign that's trying to educate the public about the warning signs of kids that are getting traffic. And it's trying to teach the public basically to call 800 numbers and report this behavior. Because a lot of this stuff, all of us citizens, we can keep our eyes and ears opened and detect it and prevent it. So by the way, there's a story up this morning at foxnews.com about a two-year-old, a two-year-old showing up at the border with nothing but I think a piece of paper on her to suggest her name. No relative or anything accompanied with

her. I'm sure she had some adult that brought her across the border, but no no seeming familial connection, this two-year-old being coyote across the border. My question for you, John, real quick, is so you told us your background about finance and so forth. There's a lot of different causes that you could have cared about. I know you hear, I hear you saying this is, it's here in America. It's increased by 400% in the past six years. We know the policies that led to a lot of this. I'm just curious, like, of all the different things you could get involved in.

And there's a lot, you know, there's a lot that's a mess in America, right, that you could on a charitable. And I understand this isn't pure charity, meaning you hope it's an investment as well on these movies to actually do well, because that would be good as well to have entertainment and commerce and message all brought together. Why this? Why this issue for you in America? Yeah, I mean, you know, to be honest with you, I had already started my film studio company, Manor House, and we had backed another film that deals with addiction to drugs and alcohol, exploitation of women called The Prince about power and politics. We have Nicholas Cage and Giancarlo Esposito, J.K. Simmons, my friend Andy Garcia.

You know, my brother had died of crack cocaine addiction, and I'm sober, and that's another issue out there in our country that certainly needs attention. I mean, this film is going to be a blockbuster. It's very entertaining, but those undercurrents are there for that film. So I'd already been involved in helping tobacco and produce that film, and then I screened this film City of Dreams. I screened it, and, I mean, honestly, I had tears dripping off my chin at the end of the movie. And I mean, I don't cry in movies, okay? I was so touched when I saw this movie and it was going to come out in like 50 or 60 screams like many of these independent films do. And they wanted money, you know, five or six million bucks to make sure it could be shown across the world.

And I didn't even blink. You know, I talked to the director, Mohitman, Shandani until about two or three in the morning. I tossed and turned all night. And the first thing I did in the mornings, I said, you know what, I'm going to support this. I learned all about the issue, and I had to make a quick decision, and my heart told me, hey, you've got to do this and support it. Now I've become an advocate using my voice, and I've been on 17 TV, podcast, radio to talk about this issue.

And frankly, I think it's the right thing to do, you know, at this stage of my life, I've been so blessed. And then to get these other business leaders, my God, Tony Robbins and Vivek Ramoswamy, like, these guys aren't making a penny. And these guys fly around on their planes and they stand shoulder to shoulder with me at these events, taking time out of their schedule, all to try to help these kids, which honestly is what all of us are trying to do here. We've got all these guys that have volunteered to raise awareness on this movie and on this topic. And so it's not just me. There's a wonderful group of folks that are all participating. And that's what we need to do. We've got to come together in a

community. And politics aside, even though there is some blame at the border, we just need to figure out how to protect our kids. And if there's hundreds of thousands of them that are kidnapped in this country, then it's bullshit. And we've got to find them, save them, and prevent this from happening. Well, we appreciate you. You've been on your 18th TV or podcast interview with us here today, John Devaney on the Will Kane Show. Thank you, John. All right. Great, great to be here, guys. Thank you so much. Pay attention to the Can You See Me Movement in New York City, the New York metropolitan area this weekend, go check out City of Dreams. All right, let's get into now.

Story number three. Kelly Ann Conway is a Fox News contributor. She's the presidential campaign manager and counselor formerly to President Donald Trump. She's also a New York Times bestselling author, and she joins us now on the Will Kane show. Hey, Kelly Ann. Hey, it's great to see you, Will. uh let's talk about donald trump's selections and nominees as cabinet i want to focus in on two that are receiving the most seeming pushback right now and that is tulsie gabbard and pete higgas

i think we have to have the conversation about those two almost um join it to hip unless you tell me you think this is completely wrong with the conversation about matt gates uh tell me first of all what you think matt gates pulling his nomination away because he didn't feel like he had the support from Republican senators might tell us about the prospects for Gabbard and Heggshead. I think there are three totally different people, totally different nominations. What they all had in common was President Trump knowing that he got a mandate to form the cabinet he wants of, I think, as Vivek Bramishwamy and Ilan Massa said in the Walshue Journal,

op-ed, you know, a lean team of small government warriors, and I think that's important. So every president has his right to do that. what the meetings are for, it's what the confirmation hearings are for. And most of the confirmation hearings should, and usually do, not exclusively will, should focus on the job description, which is the Department of Justice needs to go back and become a crime-fighting organization, make us safe again. The Pentagon has to get rid of, as I know Pete Heggseth, the nominee has said many times, get rid of all these ridiculous, unnecessary programs that take us away from the mission of our military, which is to be able to fight and win wars, not be

some laboratory for social experimentation and so on. So I think that Pete Hankseth will be asking, answering, most of his questions will be answering how he would lead the Pentagon as the next Secretary of Defense. Of course, he's going to be asked the questions. He's being asked now that are doing what the media always do, which is think that they're asking the questions, not under oath, through the media. The second, and this has been very, raised in private conversations with senators already, many of whom have said privately and publicly they got the answers they wanted. Tulsi Gabbard, the Democrats can't stand when one of their own calls them out and says you're losing touch with our brave men and women in law enforcement,

border security, the intelligence communities, look what happened in Afghanistan, look at how you've lied to the American people about the border being secure and closed, you've lied to them about parents being domestic terrorists through our own attorney general and so on and so forth. So our partisan confirmation processes have become, I'm sorry, our confirmation processes have become so partisan

as have the judicial nomination processes that that's why it's important that President Trump started out with 53 Republican votes. I think, well, the question is, which Democrats can some of these nominees peel off and get to their side? I remember Tim Geithner had been, at the Fed, then he was Secretary of Treasury nominee for Barack Obama at the beginning in 2009.

And about six, seven, eight Republicans voted for Geithner's nomination. I asked one of them, Bob Corker, Tennessee at the time, why would you vote for Tim Geithner? He didn't do a particularly good job at the Fed or the New York Treasury. And he said, well, New York Fed, he said, well, I think every president has the right to assemble the team he needs. And so I would remind everybody of that. And so I don't like it to get caught up on any one nominee because I think President Trump really has assembled an unbelievable cabinet in formation and senior staff.

I've worked with nearly all of them at the most intimate and highest levels of public policy in some cases of government. You're not going to do better than people like this. And I have to tell you, I can't think of a single one of them who needs this job. They want to do this because they realize that things are so corroded and backward in Washington, D.C. People are working from home. These government buildings are empty.

What are you doing working from home when you're an able-bodied 30-something who we pay for taxpayer dollars? And this is why, again, I want to just go back to Elon and Vivek for a second when they say, because this will affect every department agency. When they say we're going to focus on regulatory recisions, administrative reductions, and cost savings. Will we do have people in Washington, five people doing the same job, which means it's probably not being done at all, certainly not being done well. Right. Right.

Oh, there's no doubt about that. I saw the stat today at the Department of Agriculture, I believe, is it 6% occupancy when it comes to billion. That's one of the things that Elon Musk and Vivek have pointed out through Doge already. They're tweeting out inefficiencies. I mean, I'm talking about physical buildings owned by the federal government allocated to the Department of Agriculture, only 6% occupancy. It's stunning.

So I know Vivek has said maybe we just put back a work, no more work from home, no more work remote, you know, you got to work here. And that will have its own attrition. effect on people working for the federal government. Yes, well, and also if you have, if you're of an age and a health stage where that you can't go back to work every day physically, you'll get that exemption. That's like any other workforce. But this presumption that we, the two things that still exist from COVID times are the way

we vote with drop boxes and mail in and all that stuff and the way we work. And by the way, Will King, you've been employed many times in your life. as have I, and I've employed many people in my life, the idea that you can't make other choices, who your coworkers are, what your wages, if you get overtime, what your benefits are, who your bosses, what your assignments are. And the one thing we allow employees and contractors to decide now is where they perform their work. Back up everybody. It's foolishness. And we're hurting, I think we're hurting the next generation who aren't going to a place at work and getting their butts kicked by a boss once in a while. You were late. You didn't perform.

in that meeting. You weren't prepared. You drank too much on the business trip. Whatever it is, everybody got their butts kicked by a boss. We need that. We need that. And by the way, you also need a clean iron shirt in your closet for Tuesday morning on Monday night. You'll think thrice before you go out for that second bourbon. I think it's ironed, Kelly. I don't know if that was a personal shot or not. Yours for sure, not at all. It's somewhat. You're a responsible adult. Kelly Ann, I know you said you don't want to talk about any of these necessarily individually because you want to talk about the cabinet as whole. The point you made about no one needs this job, I can speak to that specifically when it comes to my former co-host, Pete Hegseth, whose star was incredibly bright. I can tell you

specifically in line for big positions at Fox News that he steps away from in order to go do a job that he feels very passionately about. But I do want to go back to Pete and I do want to go back to Tulsi because I appreciate what you said about Democrats. On principle, you would like to see some Democrats who feel the same way that Republicans did that a president deserves his cabinet. But I'm more focused on Republicans right now because there's enough of them that these nominees should get through. So the question is, are there going to be Republicans who, you know, and I know there's been meetings and it sounds like it's all gone well for Pete and senators out there going over some of the stuff that's being aired about his personal life. I'm sure

that's still going to make for an ugly committee hearing. And then Tulsi, I've seen Senator James Langford, for example, from Oklahoma talking about, we need to talk more about, I don't know, some of her meetings with Bashar al-Assad and that sort of thing. Do you think you can count on these Republicans? I think we can count on these Republicans, Will King, to say, I'm going to give a fair hearing, I'm going to have meetings with them ahead of time, and then transparency and truthfulness will save the day where we can all tune into these hearings

and watch the questions. Remember, the senators asking the questions are not. never under oath. The staffers writing the questions are never under oath. It's the nominee that's under oath. And he or she will have to speak truthfully and fully. And here's the other thing I would say, in polling, the American people are giving President-elect Trump the benefit of the doubt with his agenda and his administrative selections for the cabinet so far. So I think the Senate should do the same. The fact that they saw their party reconstructed through this geographic and demographic breadth of a victory is, I think, the greenlight they need to say,

President Trump has been left for politically dead how many times? Let's give him the grace and the latitude to say, I need the following people around me to get things done. And you see, the CBS polling, they're much more happy than not with President Trump's selection so far. even plus nine, Tulsi a good choice and a bad choice. Plus five, Heggseth a good choice and a bad choice. Though a plurality say they haven't heard enough. And look, I also wanted to say something else. The fact is that many people in Washington, D.C. and in the media,

they think their job is to harass and embarrass other human beings that disagree with them politically. And they use their poison keyboard and their acerbic tongues to do that. So expect that to happen to Tulsi Gabbin and Pete Heggseth. than some of these others. Even though they can't stop their confirmation necessarily, they can bloody them up and try to embarrass them. And these people like to create pain. They do.

Think of their job. But one more. That's why the media these days had 31% approval rating because so many Americans, yeah. So the Republicans, it's a good point that you're raising. Because at 53, I want to say, you might have to do something. To your point on the transition. So Donald Trump has, I think the transition is like at a 60% approval.

rating right now. So post-election, are you happy with Donald Trump's transition? It's like at 60%, 59% 60% approval rating. Donald Trump, one, as you mentioned with a mandate, both electoral college, popular vote, swing states. So it would take a lot. And by the way, then there's just who Donald Trump is. And his instincts and his strength and the fact that how, I mean, if you're going to go against him as a Republican senator, I mean, you are staking out what looks to be a very unpopular position for you. Elon Musk has said, by the way, if you go against him, get ready for a primary challenge. That's Elon Musk saying he's going to help out with a primary challenge. But on the other hand, Kelly, and I'm a little concerned, like, all of these senators who were not

pro Donald Trump are now in leadership position. You know, it's Mitch McConnell doing the rules committee. It's John Thune, his majority leader. Is it Murkowski has a high position as well? I believe it's McCarthy, right? She also got a high position. So it's like the Senate is moved into a direction that doesn't seem to follow the way the public has gone when it comes to Donald Trump? This is true, but I will say, I think that Senator Mikowski said she wasn't voting for President Trump. You don't need to quote me. We can look it up easily. But she's got an R after her name, and I hope that she'll be fair to these nominees. She is the only Republican that voted against Justice Brett Kavanaugh. You may recall in 2018, Susan Collins gave a passionate speech in the

well of the Senate, one of the best in modern memory, as to why to your point here, she had concerns, raised objections, was curious, was concerned, but got those questions answered, and here's why she's voting for him. I want to remind everybody, this is the situation we had when we got here in 2017. It's the same thing eight years later. We had 53 Republican senators will, and we had a majority in the House. In fact, not a slim majority like Johnson has now. We had a pretty good majority, double-digit majority.

And yet, did they repeal and replace Obamacare? No. Did they get infrastructure passed? No. Did the Tax Cut and Jobs Act get signed on March 2nd? No. It got signed in the law on December 2nd. So even with a majority, it was distorting. I think what's different now is Donald Trump knows how to deal with them. They know how to deal with him. The same people who vote for them. And I think John Thun is going to be fine. And I don't know what Mitch McConnell is. I think they're going to be fine because they see that they're in the majority, not because of them or even some of their Senate candidates respectfully, but because Donald Trump's enthusiasm, energy, and vote getting, vote collecting, allowed them to have this big sweep across the country in these swing states. Remember, Donald Trump is the only Republican to ever win Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin as a block in modern history in the last 35 years, and he did it twice. That's it. The others didn't do it. And he did it twice in 2016 and 2024. And he won. This is not coincidence. It's this causation. So no, I think, look, I think the nominees you mentioned could easily lose a Republican here, a Republican there. I don't doubt it.

But that's what these hearings are for. Matt Gates took his name out of nomination because there were four hard firm nose among the Republicans against him. And he said he didn't want to be a distraction. I think that was great of him to step aside once he did the math because he wants President Trump and Vice President Vance to succeed will. He wants to make sure that the Attorney General is confirmed before, if we can do it on or before inauguration day or soon after there, so that we can get moving pretty quickly. All right, last thing with you, Killian. So my old colleague at ESPN, Stephen A. Smith was on the Bill Maher's podcast,

and he said something about Democrats having a weak bench. And we've had this conversation before, but it's interesting to think about the future. Political Playbook this morning had something on the future of Kamala Harris. what will she do on one hand of course she just embarrassingly lost but on the other hand it even in losing you raise your name ID you're you know her she among Democrats you know she's now after Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama probably Joe Biden um you know in terms of at least name ID so they they theorized about governor of California should Gavin Newsom you know run for president and so forth what do you think of the Democrats bench which I think we would have to say

includes Gavin Newsom, Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania, and Kamala Harris. It includes that. It includes probably Gretchen Whitmer. I find her to be unimpressive, but people seem to like her in the party. Andy Beshear of Kentucky, Westmore, the young African-American governor who won by 30 points in Maryland a few years ago. They've got a bunch of people on the bench. They'd love to have Mitch Landrieu do it, but they've made it so that they're spending $2 billion in ads will, and they're saying, well, you've got to have a look, not just a record performance. But it all depends on what happens with President Trump and this dynamic administration. It also depends what these individual Democrats do and say, are they part of the

resistance, which now is all but gone, totally underfunded, underwhelming, no track record, as I call them the always wrong never Trumpers. How embarrassing. The money that's been spent on complete nonsense. And the promise, the reason a lot of these cable stations are bleeding viewers is they were, those viewers were promised we'll never have to deal with Donald Trump again. It wasn't just, oh, let me go and have some ideological, political alignment and agreement. You promised me, you told me you knew how to do this and you failed. So people are leaving them. I think if some of them give a big foreign policy speech, I think if some of them say here in my state, I'm resisting the wayward move of my party, they've lost the worker,

They lost Hispanics. They lost African-Americans. Kamala Harris is a woman who won women by seven paltry points. That ain't nothing. Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden won them by double that, 13 points. And we beat Hillary in 2016. She still won women by 13 points. Conala Harris is a black woman who lost more black women to Donald Trump

than either Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden before her. So they've got a huge reckoning. The question is the question for the Democrats, Will, is not who's your next messenger but what's your next message your bleeding support you're seen as hostile to school choice you're hostile to religion you're hostile to workers your hostile people don't have four-year college degrees look the obama couple may be popular but the obama coalition is gone these these counties have gone from obama obama trump 206 of them in 2016 Biden won a bunch of their back in 2020 Trump dominated and the obamas can come out and wag their finger at people

and then run back into their castles, it's not working anymore. It's not working. So the Democrats have an identity problem and a message problem more than a messenger problem. And because of that, when you say the resistance is dead, I'm not so sure.

It might be dead nationally. I don't know if it's dead. I don't know if it's dead among Democrats. Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffrey, smells the majority, you know, coming his way after 2026. I don't mean it that way. I just mean the professional one

where MSNBC and CNN's idea, of a Republican is somebody who's broken with Trump. And if you worked for Trump and then broke, you all the better. And so that's just not what happened in the election. Republican voters now are more Hispanic, more Asian. They are younger. They are more African rights. They're more union households.

They're more gay and lesbian households. They're more Jewish American than they were for short years ago. Have you ever thought about the MSNBC contributor gig that you could have had or your position on the view if you'd have broken from Trump, Kellyan? I mean, you would be, you would be, I don't know, you probably made, even if you were, even if you were anti-Trump, there's no way you last on the view. And let me make clear, after Trump won in 2016, I was, money was pouring in for me, including from these networks. I had offers from all of them, Jeff Zucker from CNN and the people at MSNBC and NBC, the money was flowing. But you know what?

They turned on Trump. And of course, I went into the White House and never regretted it. an amazing four years by the president's side. They turned on Trump almost immediately. They couldn't get enough of him. And then they turned on all of us. And the games began almost immediately. January 5th, the Oval Office meeting with Susan Rice and Clapper and Brennan and Comey

and Obama himself. And then the next day, they're all at Trump Tower, Sons Obama and Rice. They're all at Trump Tower. Hey, real quick, Kelly. And before we go, on that note, I've understood, like, I believe it's Tammy Duckworth, who said, well, I'm not, I can't support Tulsi or whoever. even though she's a Democrat, she's saying, until they pass background checks. My understanding is the Trump team has not put their cabinet nominees through background checks with the FBI,

because in order to do so, you have to sign a letter of memorandum or whatever it is with the current sitting administration to start sharing information. But that was the back door window in 2016, where they began the spying process on Donald Trump. And so he's like, we're not doing that again. You're not starting the spying on us. So all of the background checks have been postponed on the cabinet nominees. Has there been any organization more anti-Trump, corruptly anti-Trump, than the FBI? Not the 40,000 or so rank and file honorable men and women, who I will honor again right here, but the seventh floor of the DOJ, the Peter struck and Lisa Page and Bruce Orr and Nellie.

Everybody knows the names now. And what they did, this FISA surveillance nonsense, everybody says the judge never should have allowed that. The Steele dossier, dossier is a French word for load of. of crap in this case, and it goes on and on. It went all the way to the Hillary campaign, the DNC. So can you not blame Donald Trump? And then even Chris Ray, who's in there right now, Trump put in there, but he said, I'm not really sure the president was shot.

He might have been greased. The FBI right away is to say, the man was shot. Like, why are we doing this? And so I don't blame President Trump for wondering about that. I also don't blame him for wondering just how supportive and patriotic, ladies and gentlemen, and helpful in this so-called peaceful transfer. power in our great constitutional republic from the Biden people to the Trump people, how helpful they're actually going to be.

All we heard about is January 6th piece and transfer, blah, blah, blah, blah. You go prove it. You go prove it. Joe Biden and one Kamala Harris, president and vice president, as we sit here today, can come out today. We'll have a joint press government to say, we're here to say whatever you need, we're providing it. We just hung up the phone with Chris Way.

Without spying on you. Without spying on you. Yes, which of course they did. But you know what? The good guys won. Kelly Ann Conway. Thank you, Will. I've got to leave it here.

I really appreciate the time that you give us here on the Will Cane Show. It's always insightful and entertaining. Thank you, Kelly Ann. Thank you, Will. Take care. Okay. All right, I got to run.

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