Will Cain Country - Kevin O’Leary Says THIS Is Why People Stay Broke - Is He Right? (ft. Jack Mac & Rep. Andy Ogles)

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

Kevin O’Leary struck a nerve with younger internet users when he called out indulgent lunch expenditures, but does he have a point, or is it just more “boomer slop” (as Tinfoil Pat puts it)? Wil...l and The Crew are joined by Barstool’s Jack Mac, Host of 'Unpack With Jack Mac,' to break down the internet’s outrage over Mr. Wonderful’s concerns surrounding Gen Z’s financial habits, before taking a look at yet another heater to come out of Maine's Democratic Senate candidate Graham Platner’s Reddit account. Plus, Congressman Andy Ogles (R-TN) breaks down the ASSIMILATION ACT; a bill he says will help crack down on H-1B fraud and fix America’s broken immigration system. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Senate candidate for Maine. Graham Platner keeps churning out the hits. This time, mocking an American soldier wounded in Afghanistan. Democrats, you got some gyms running to represent you in Washington, D.C. Kevin O'Leary says don't spend $28 on a lunch when you're making $70. And for that, the internet with Barstools, Jack Mac.
Starting point is 00:00:48 It is Wilcane Country. Streaming live at the Will Cain Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page. But here it's your leisure on demand. Simply hit Follow. Spotify or Apple. He is the host of Unpack with Jack Mack, also the co-host of Spinning Backfist
Starting point is 00:01:17 MMA show. He works at Barstool. It is Jack Mac. today on Will Kane Country. What's up? Jack? What's up? Well, it's good to hear from you. Good to see you. I'm honored to be back. I think it's maybe a second or third time. But this is, it's always great to talk with you. And I'm excited to be here on May 21st. There's always stuff going on on the internet. That's the thing. Always. I feel like that's a little bit your beat. The internet coverage, covering the coverage on the internet. The internet's mad.
Starting point is 00:01:53 The internet is mad at Mr. Wonderful, mad at Kevin O'Leary. Because somewhere, someplace, Kevin O'Leary had this to say about how much Gen Z should be spending on lunch. Take it away at two days. Can't stand it when I see kids that are making $70,000 a year spending $28 for lunch. I mean, that's just stupid. It's just think about that in the context of that being put into an index and make taking 8 to 10% a year for the next 50 years. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Now, what I understand is everybody's mad. Tenfold, Pat, you told me the internet is mad. You're kind of mad because you're a populist internet creature. And explain me why everybody's mad. Why is everybody mad, Jack Mack? Well, so there's multiple sides of the internet, of course. There's the rational side, which I would probably say is 80% of the internet. just normal people going about their life looking at things, not really commenting.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Then you got both sides, left, right. Most of the people mad at Kevin O'Leary are definitely on the left here. And they are saying, hey, why are you not asking the question that is, why is it $28 for lunch? But at the same time, there's also a pushback. This is what often happens on the Internet. Someone says something. Somebody gets, like a section of the Internet gets mad. And then another section gets mad at the...
Starting point is 00:03:23 section of the internet that's getting mad at the original comment. It's like, oh, it's a domino effect. I saw a tweet from somebody that had like a sickle and hammer saying like, we are going to, we are going to,
Starting point is 00:03:39 oh, we're digging your grave first, almost implying when they get away from the internet and get off of their butt and do the Viva la Res revolution non. They, he is going to kill Kevin O'Leary first. and put him in the grave first. I think it's a fair point.
Starting point is 00:03:58 If you're making $70,000 a year, maybe you got to get a $10 barrito instead of $28. I also saw a tweet from somebody that said, this is ridiculous in coming from a place to privilege. And then she replied, dead serious, saying, I deserve a Caesar salad with smoked salmon for lunch every day. That's what she said. I deserve it.
Starting point is 00:04:21 that is i'm sorry that's a luxury like so um i've seen i i went through a lot of comments kevin o'leary's right you shouldn't be spending that much but also it does feel a little bit like boom or slop like there is kind of this uh how do i say it like there is an exact like i think the overall reason why a lot of younger people do that is because they have no belief that they will make enough money to retire later on in life or buy a house. So they're like, might as well spend it now. Now, that's not the right way to go about things. You should be saving your money. Money compounds. You don't really realize it when you're 22 because you're like, oh, what is this $28 going to be? Like, it could be something down the line.
Starting point is 00:05:10 So I saw a post on X suggesting this is exactly why people are cheering on the heroism of Luigi Mangione. And the obvious implication here is that you said. This is Kevin O'Leary being led to the gallows, not the gallows, but the guillotine first. Like, we're in the midst of the French Revolution, and he is announcing, let them eat cake. And the minute that Jack Mac uses the word, boomerslop, Pat, there you are nodding along. So you think what O'Leary has to say here is boomer slop? Oh, yes. Like, I am now, my goal in life is to go after boomers.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I'm going to become boomers bane. And, like, I'm just tired of them. Like, you just sit on their, on their perch, and they don't take into account what average people are going through. So, yeah, I am dead set against Bimmers right now. Now, I will say. Okay, that's not, that's not good for ratings. That's, that's not good. That is, that is sabotaging the success of our own show.
Starting point is 00:06:13 There's plenty of boosters that watch both programs put together by Will King. the hero. I don't appreciate it for one. I'm here with you. Okay, fine. I'm your hero, boomers. Watch in a minute. Watch. I'm about to go at both Jack Mack and Pat. I'm just slow playing it here. But don't worry. I'm about to ride in with my, I don't think it's right to say my white sheet. I'm about to ride in with white night. I'm about to be your white night, boomers. Now, I will say, Gen Z, like I think Gen Z and millennials, for whatever reason think it's their right to get DoorDash or Uber Eats.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Like it's their right. Which is very weird and very like if you're, now if you make a lot of money, yeah, go and do it. Like you have the luxury to do that. But like I was, this kind of popped off because there was, so Kevin O'Leary said it.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Then there was a survey done. I didn't look into if it was legit or not. But it looked in Gen Z, millennial, boomer, And then Gen X, I think, or something. And how they spent their money on dinner or in food. Gen Z, who has the least amount of money, spends, I think, over 50% on restaurants and delivery. It's wild.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Baby, or boomers, quote unquote, only spend like 15%. I would have to find the exact numbers. But the boomers have more money. Now, I guess you could, people would say like, oh, well, they have more time because they're retired. But they also have more time to go to the restaurants. So they spend, like Gen Z, even though they say they have no money, spends more on Uber Eats, more on DoorDash, more on restaurants. And I got into it with Taylor Lorenz. I was replying to her.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And she said, well, this is because so many people have disabilities. And I asked her, it's like, how many people have disabilities? How many? Like, is it 25% of Gen Z? If so, we have to, like, we may have to, I don't know, like, are, we may have to shut everything down and look at what's going on. She might be right. She might be actually quoting an actual statistic because we've had disability inflation and so much of Gen Z has anxiety or, or ADD listed as a true disability that is somehow inhibiting their path to success in America. Okay, here's where I am. Ready, boomers? This is where I am. Riding in. Bright, shining light all around me. Shield held high.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I had this conversation at dinner last night. I had it, and it continued this morning over coffee. So I'm going to start with this. Jack, what kind of underwear do you wear? I'm going to check. I think I'm wearing Ralph Lauren. But it's like, it's not, I know that sounds expensive. That's fancy. But it's not. Like, it wasn't that expensive. Like, I got it at.
Starting point is 00:09:19 The T.J. Max style. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got like a bunch of them. Yeah. There's a new breed's head on, probably. Yeah. There's a bundle deal. Keep going around the horn.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Keep calling around the horn. That was a three pack. That's what he's trying to sell. Tell us. He's still buying him three packs. Okay, you're going jockey. You're buying him in three to five packs. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:39 You're still, you're still buying some, um, some bulk discount. undies. Pat? Yeah, I just go, I think I'm at Haynes now. So I used to do boxers, and now I do Tried and true. Boxer briefs to try to, when you get older, you have to keep them tucked in a little bit more, you know?
Starting point is 00:09:56 Otherwise, you're just flopping around. All right. Yeah. Yeah, I got Tommy Johns on. Yeah, I was going to say, that was my guess. I knew it. How did I know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Why they don't sponsor? So let me explain to you my underwear theory. Okay. Here's what's going on. Now, I'm older than you guys. When I was a kid, you wore whatever. You wore witty-tides. There was a boxer phase in the 90s, but brand didn't matter.
Starting point is 00:10:25 And comfort was accidental. You happened into comfort. You rarely chose comfort. And socks were the same way. It was tube socks, and you got used to the heel bunching up at the back of your Achilles. This idea of a fitted sock, much less a designer sock, like stance or bombas. did not exist. So what we're dealing with now is a society that has become accustomed to Tommy John. And by the way, I'm not suggesting it's bad. It's great. I love nice underwear. I got some Tommy
Starting point is 00:10:55 Johns. I got some Lulu lemons. I opt for the boxer brief. I want something that is fitted that I don't notice all day, so it's got to be a loose material, you know, that still breathes. Fitted, yet not tight. breathable, but, you know, not bunchable. I want all this little needle threading of the perfect underwear. Now, back when I commuted to New York, there would be times when I was up there for like a five, seven day stretch and look, let's be honest, I'm not doing laundry. So, I mean, I was down to the bottom of the suitcase, and my wife a couple times ordered me underwear.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And she ordered me, no offense, if they want to come in on a sponsorship, for a loom. And that came in the three to five pack, and they were cotton and thick. And such a disappointment. Every morning I put them on. It was like starting your day on a downbeat. It was just a bummer to start my day because I knew it was going to be bunched up in the crotch and the seat. Same thing with socks. You're wearing socks like stance and bambas and you're spending $30 a pair of socks. You're spending $30 a single on a pair of underwear. And this isn't just for rich people. People are doing this. My point is, I want you to hear me out for one more moment. This is capitalism. The idea that something that used to be a necessity that we didn't think about, is now a luxury that most of us, to some extent, can afford, and I still think it's absurd to spend $30 on underwear. Just wait, Pat, just wait. I don't even want to see your face. And that is what we are doing. It is 100% true. The libertarian economic model that I used to buy into 15 years ago, that a rising tide lifts all boats. Trickle-down economics is real. That the way the middle class and the poorest among us live today is vastly different than the way the
Starting point is 00:12:38 middle class and the poorest among us lived 30 years ago. It's just a fact. I was alive. I saw it. That being said, and I'm going to bring this home now, boys, we're social creatures. It's what we are. It's really not about our needs. And it's not even really about our wants. It's about comparison. And we look at the dude next to us and we ask, do they have more? What I'm saying is, there's a reason Mom Donnie gets popular. There's a reason socialism has a market. Not because people are truly suffering, there's not a starvation crisis in America, it's because they look at their neighbor and go, why does he have more? And I'm not here to say, oh, it's so bad. It is not great. Envy's a bad characteristic, but it is also human nature. So we have to realize that we're
Starting point is 00:13:23 social animals. And when it comes to politics, it's like, oh, well, do you want a bloody revolution? Do you want a society that hates one another with wealth inequality? So you do have to acknowledge it and come up with a way to help it. It's just not going to be helped through socialism. Because socialism produces, you know, Canada, did you guys see this? The average income in Canada is 45,000. Do you know what the average income of the poorest state in America is? It's Mississippi, and it's 47K. So the poorest state in America is doing better than the average Canadian. Here's where I'm going with these kids and what Mr. Wonderful is saying. You don't deserve a $28 lunch. You don't. Nobody does. But I get why you're saying that.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Because you see other people doing it. Because you see your parents do it. Because you see other door dashers. And you think, I'm entitled to that at 70K. And Mr. Wonderful is just telling you reality. And so the Internet's mad because of their comparative status and life. Okay. Now get mad tinfoil.
Starting point is 00:14:26 So I think this discussion is really, when I think of it, it's moved past what Mr. Wonderful is saying. because I think he is right. I think that people don't deserve these things just because they're there. But I do think that we allegedly live in the most prosperous nation in the world, in the history of mankind,
Starting point is 00:14:50 and I think that there are economic realities that are impacting people that need to be addressed. And I'm saying, like, I'm not looking at my neighbor. I'm looking at how well off I was five years ago, 20 years ago compared to now, and we're experiencing shrinkflation. Like, outside of televisions coming down and getting better, the economy is not actually getting better for the average person. I think that's why they're jumping to Marxism.
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Starting point is 00:15:46 This ad is sponsored by the F-35 partner team, Lockheed Martin, BAE Systems, Northrop Grumman, and Rtiex. Learn more at www.f35.com slash Canada. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with Barstools. Jack Mack, the host of Unpacked with Jack Mack. All right, Jack. I mean, I agree there 100% that the discussion isn't necessarily just about lunch. It's more so lunch is almost a, it's like an example.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And then people are saying, why are you talking about lunch when people are very angry about a bunch of other financial, like we don't care about lunch. Like, talk about things that actually matter. But I mean, also, that's a clip of a podcast. We live in, this is another thing. We live in this clip culture, right, on the internet specifically, and it's only getting worse. And I've seen it kind of like, this is a true revolution of where it's like, people don't even want. I had a friend told me the other day they were like, you should get a show on Foxx News. I was like, yeah, I should because I want to get paid Will Kane money.
Starting point is 00:16:52 And then, and she, and this girl that said, I wouldn't watch it, but I would watch the Instagram real. and I was just like, I was like, this is, but that's what's going to happen and that's only going to get completely worse. So Kevin O'Leary may have even landed that ship in that podcast. I didn't watch it in full. And he may even been rational, but now you see this clip of Kevin O'Leary and it's like, he's the $28 lunch guy. He's the fifth or the $5 coffee guy. Now I will say coffee anywhere. It's like you're paying four bucks now, which is kind of crazy outside of like you, but you can make it at home.
Starting point is 00:17:28 At least. Yeah, at least, especially in New York. But here's the thing. Humans, like, when they go to work, they go to work, they do the same thing every day. A lot of people, it's just a repeat. They see the same people. They take the same route. They need some, like, humans need things that are a little bit different.
Starting point is 00:17:47 And we've been told specifically my generation, a little bit younger, that you need more like, you need, like, different things going on in your life. Food has become, you see it with foodies. people being obsessed with the restaurants they go to, the food that they get. They need that experience and they think to themselves, I deserve this. But then I point out, okay, so then skip out on the delivery fees. Then I get told by Taylor Lorenz that a lot of people can't, can't leave, can't leave their house. And that just can't be true. I'm sorry, it just cannot.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Now, here's the thing. There are people that have true disabilities. She's a certified crazy person. But she's a certified crazy person. I give you credit, by the way. Didn't you get an interview with her? Was it an in-person sit down? I sat with her.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I talked with her for two hours. I think she is, like, if you talked with her, Will, you would, you would obviously disagree on a lot of things. I mean, she, like, is a Luigi-Mangione super fan. But she is almost so much. much in belief with what she believes. You almost respect it. You're like, you're not fake.
Starting point is 00:19:04 You know how there's a lot of people online? You're like, I mean, I see what you're doing. I don't really know if you believe what you're saying. She truly believes it. And she's not as crazy in person. I was expecting this, like, woman that was going to yell at me. She was really chill. And to her credit, she goes on Pierce Morgan.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I know that's not like completely right wing or anything, but she went on my show. She goes on shows that aren't necessarily going to give her the easiest interviews. we should book her yeah we should book taylor the rins hey speaking of coffee uh mr wonderful did talk about coffee and buying coffee as well here he is kevin o'leary you have said that people who spend five dollars on a latte are stupid yeah i'm right if you have a credit card balance that goes into the next month and you're spending five bucks on a coffee you're crazy because that five dollars could have been used or five dollars a day usually it's more
Starting point is 00:20:00 because you're getting two coffees a day. You're getting one in the morning, one at night. I'll give you permission to buy a coffee for five bucks if you have no balance on your credit card at the end of the month. 23% interest. That's what... Please tell me you don't think that's boomer slot, Pat.
Starting point is 00:20:20 That's like... That's Dave Ramsey, man. That's like... That's everybody's dad. That's like basic finance 101. Dave Ramsey is boomer slot, just so you know. just it's all boomer slop the whole the whole
Starting point is 00:20:34 put yourself up by the by the bootstraps I'm beginning I'm come on I actually think you're mangioneista you're Taylor Lorenz if you say if somebody telling you not to buy coffee expensive coffee when you're in debt and you have credit card debt
Starting point is 00:20:50 is boomer slop you want a life man you are this close to be in Mamdani like you're so far right you're left you're a socialist bro that's it. You're not black pill. This is the point of the black pill. The black pill takes you anywhere you want and it's taking you. Dan, congratulations. You're not the furthest left dude on the show. It's now 10th Will Pat. I am the most anti-communist and Marxist person on the show. I'm more so than you are. I am the most free market capitalist on the show. And that's what I'm talking about. I'm tired of socialism and Marxism. controlling the market. That's all I'm saying. Here's the problem with Pat, though, and everyone else that's complaining about this,
Starting point is 00:21:36 they just don't like being told what to do. That's it. They don't like... Damn right. I'm American. No, it's not that he's not it. That's part of it. He does not like communism, except when it supports his coffee. He does not like socialism.
Starting point is 00:21:50 I don't go out and get coffee. What are you talking about? His prices. If it brings down his electricity price, then he likes it. He is so solid. for me, but not for thee. He likes other people's money. He's a good mom d'ani.
Starting point is 00:22:07 I want to have TV prices and TV quality across the entire economy. I want to live in the American dream that we were promised, and that is our birthright as Americans. That's what I want. That's all. It's a fugazi. It's a woozy. It's a wuzzy.
Starting point is 00:22:24 I don't mind working hard. That's also part of the birthright of America. You have to work hard to get what you get. It's good. I see what he's doing. That rhetoric and word choice, he's playing on the, he's playing on subconscious things. Like using the word, it's my birthright as American. He just got back the right.
Starting point is 00:22:40 A moment ago, I put him on his heels so far with the audience. They're like, yeah, that Pat guy, he wants that freaking latte. And he wants somebody else to pay for it. But then he invoked birthright as an American. And he's like, he got him back, baby. He's like, we're back. Nativism. It ain't about the latte.
Starting point is 00:23:00 You can get the latte. But like all that it comes back to, and although we did say Dave Ramsey, and like, if you just follow a simple budgeting plan, you can figure out, like, maybe latte is the thing that you want every single day. But then what's the issue is they all, like, we're talking about birthright. A lot of Gen Z's birthright, in their opinion. It's not my birthright as an American, birthright as a human to go to Coachella. To go to Coachella. Yes. Go to.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Like, that is their birthright. So that's when it's my birthright to have two pumps of sugar-free vanilla. Not one, two. It's my birthright. And it's their birthright. They worked 50 hours this week. They can't make dinner. They don't have the ability.
Starting point is 00:23:59 That's what Taylor-Rin said. They don't have the ability to make dinner. And I said, telehealth appointments. I said, I was like, that would imply that we have a country. Like, if you don't know how to even make the simplest dinner, that would imply we have a country of a lot of people that, like, wouldn't know how to do math, like 10 plus five. Because, like, it may be easier to make an egg, like an egg sandwich than to do basic math. Like you open the egg and then you look at it and then you put it on the sandwich or the toaster.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Also, there are pre-made meals. There's pre-made meals. You said she was perfectly nice. True. I think that hell could be being married to Taylor Rins. Could you imagine that like coming home every day? No, I didn't make any food. I have a disability.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I can't make anything. Like sensitive, victimhood, incapable and incompetent, that makes for a bad partner. That combination, that'd be rough. Guess what she has your thermostat at every day? 82. What? What?
Starting point is 00:25:12 Yep. It's like 82 to 85. Is that for the climate? Jeez. No, no, it's because she has like, I shouldn't laugh. I shouldn't laugh. She says she has like zero like red blood sales or something. Like, you know how when you get chemotherapy, like,
Starting point is 00:25:28 your red bloods are your some blood cell count goes down and you can't really go outside because you're you're you have the bill like you're you could get more sick and it could be really bad that's what happens during chemotherapy she says that's what it's like for her all time so that's why she she keeps it high it's like living in the amazon i just wouldn't want to have to mask up some money man to intimate you know but i was able to like i wouldn't worry about summer i don't think it's going to be very frequent part we were in central park she didn't make me put on a mask? Outside? Yeah, outdoors. That's nice.
Starting point is 00:26:05 And she didn't. She wasn't wearing a mask either. She did not. There was somebody that coughed next to us. There was somebody that coughed next to us, and I could tell her she was a little nervous, so we moved. But outside of that, she was like, no, you don't have to wear a mask. That's wild. Nice.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Well, there's some lucky guy out there for Taylorins. It may be Graham Platner. He's running for Senate in Maine, but the hits keep coming out. Here's the headline from the New York Post or from Fox News. Platner's deleted Reddit sparks outrage again as he appears to mock wounded soldier, quote, didn't deserve to live. What did Platterner say on Reddit?
Starting point is 00:26:43 It was a video of an American infantryman. I think it was taken from like a GoPro type situation or helmet cam. And here's what Plattner posted. This video never gets old. Dumb MFer didn't deserve to live. live. At least his stupidity and fat-ass wheezing are available for all future infantrymen to witness and holding contempt. Poor marksmanship on the Taliban's part is the only reason this mouth breezer made it home. He managed to make every possible, I don't know, redacted blank decision
Starting point is 00:27:16 possible when it comes to small unit combat. This dude is the leading Democrat candidate for Senate, and by the way, happy Memorial Day weekend. We're headed into Memorial Day. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, I It really is He's the one with the tattoo, right? Hey, by the way, is he popular? Is he popular at the offices in Barstool? Graham Platner?
Starting point is 00:27:41 I'll be honest. I think if I asked, if I asked every person in the office right now who Graham Platner is, I wouldn't know him. I think two people would know. If not, if not less, like a legit two.
Starting point is 00:28:00 he's just not I believe that's true I mean like I don't know if he would be popular but he's just like I mean he's Maine I think there's people
Starting point is 00:28:08 that and we're a New England company I'll even I even think there's people that come up to me and talk about politics if I asked them who Grand Plattenor was
Starting point is 00:28:16 they would not know they would not know he's the one he had the tattoo too right you had that scandal yeah the Nazi tattoo Nazi tattoo Jack
Starting point is 00:28:25 so when you're explaining grand Platner I want you to think about this when somebody walks up to you at barstool, and it comes up, and they're like, who's Grand Planner? I want you to struggle to decide how am I going to decide
Starting point is 00:28:37 to describe Glant Planner. Option A. He's the dude with the Nazi tattoo on his chest. But he's a Democrat, they'll say? And you're like, yes, he's a Democrat. He had the SS skull and crossbones tattoo on his chest. Option B,
Starting point is 00:28:55 he's the dude that gets turned on by the smell of blue water in Port-a-Potty. and has a habit of jerking off inside of porta potty's. Fact, posted it on Reddit. Option three, Democrat Socialist, Far Left. Well, I'm missing more of his greatest hits. There's more boys. Oh, he hates me.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I can't remember what else. He hates me. He hates me. He likes me. He likes him. I think. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:23 So, Grant Platner, I mean, it's just, yeah. But he's, he's pulled. to win, right? I think he's doing well. I haven't seen the latest goal. He's doing well. I haven't checked recently, but last I recall, I think I read
Starting point is 00:29:41 like an article about two weeks ago. He was doing pretty well. I mean, it is Maine. So it's just kind of like, I think once he won that Democratic, because he won the primary, I believe, he's just, he's like it's kind of, I mean, Maine's a different place up there. It's a different world.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I know. It's a lot of red up there, too. I never been to Maine. It's really nice. I mean, Maine is, it is beautiful. There is some amazing beaches. It's a beautiful, but I mean, it's, it's, it's not very diverse, which you is like you, it feels a little racist of them. They should, they should figure out to maybe make it like more diverse. I don't think they're kicking anybody out. Not only they're kicking anybody out.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I think it's a self-selection mechanism. I've only been to me in fallout four. It's like, why is it not diverse? They have to ask that question. Do they have, like, a racist environment or something? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Yeah. Go ahead, Dan. Will, don't you think we see more of these people in the Democratic Party, like the Everyman type guy? I mean, because they were seen as the elitist kind of party. But I think we're going to see more. I know his craziness and whatever. But just how he presents as, like, this rugged kind of, that's more of usually on the right. And so I feel like the Democrats are going to try to push that more just to get more moderates and pull more people to the left.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I told you, I think the whole like, I'm the guy with my shirt off at the bar getting hammered. Even the I'm the guy that gets turned on in the porta potty, I actually think that it's going to be net positive for him on that. The two that I can't reconcile, the two that I can't reconcile are the Nazi tat and the I hate Maine thing. Like, those seem like election killers. People look past it. We're about to find out. They will. So he was a Marine, right?
Starting point is 00:31:35 He's better in himself. Why am I making that up? No, he is. He is. Yeah, what was the context of, like, of saying that? That's a pretty nasty thing to say. And then also, like, kind of being like, oh, if only the Taliban shot better, I mean, that's a pretty nasty thing to say. You could be against a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:31:53 but I mean, pro-Taliban would be a crazy, crazy job. We should hear Osama bin Laden out. Yeah, it's like pro-Taliban is almost like, I'm not telling you to say yes to everything that every U.S. politician says. But, I mean, pro-Talban, I'd be a pro-Grant Platner before pro-Talban. If you can distinguish the two. All right, before we go, Jack, because you co-host spinning back fist, and I saw you posting about the Netflix MMA card on Saturday night, one in which I watched, by the way.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Not much to say about Ronda Rousey versus Gina Carrano. It was 17 seconds long. And it seemed like legit 17 seconds. It didn't seem fake. It didn't seem staged. It seemed like Rousey was a beast and got in there and did what she always does and went for an arm bar before Gina Carano knew which way was up. But the one that got my attention was,
Starting point is 00:32:52 little more was Francis Inganu. And then at the end of that fight during the interview, they were asking Francis and Ghanu about John Jones and that fight potentially. And I know, and I'm not a UFC or I'm not an MMA expert, Jack, but I've watched a fair amount and read about it. I've seen John Jones fight. He's generally considered the greatest of all time. However, Francis Inganu is also like a beast, scary. is that if that fight happened in the next year
Starting point is 00:33:25 who's the favorite is it got to be john jones yeah john jones but i mean it would it would be if you're talking about vagus gambling lines it'd be a fairly close lined uh but john is just john is just he's a better mixed martial artist
Starting point is 00:33:43 he could uh impact he could bring in his wrestling his striking is very good too he'd be able to avoid francis's uh most a powerful kind of skill, which of course is his power. That's a fight that I don't know if it would ever happen because John Jones would have to get out of his UFC contract. Dana White hates Francis Ngano.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Hates him with like, it's probably a top five hatred. He announced McGregor returning while Francis Ngano was walking out. Inganu is a, but Engano is also an all-time MMA kind of. fighter. And unfortunately, because of the UFC contract situation, then he had some his own life issues. He lost a child. We didn't see him a lot over the past few years. But he's also still a guy that would be, it would be an amazing fight. It would be a huge, huge fight. It'd be one of the biggest fights in MMA history. And God knew against John Jones. But John Jones would have to get out of his UFC contract. And I would assume Dana White
Starting point is 00:34:47 would be willing to spend millions of dollars on lawyer fees to make sure that never. happens. Right. Which stinks as a fan. More analysis like that. But it's just like how I guess. I would love to see it. It would be gigantic.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Are you going to the White House card? Spitting back fisting in a May show. Are you going to the White House? I'm invited. I probably could I probably could score an invite. When is it? When is that?
Starting point is 00:35:11 The summer? Sunday. July. June 14th, Sunday. You can make one call. Come on. One text. One text.
Starting point is 00:35:19 One text in you're in. Just in a text. I know. I know you know a guy. Yeah. It takes a lot to get me out of Dallas. Is it worth it to go to D.C. for that fight? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Should I for sure be a once-in-a-lifetime spectacle? That's, I don't know. I mean, I understand you got to go to D.C. But it is a once-in-a-lifetime spec. Maybe you have something else to do in D.C. on Monday morning. You never know. We do the show from D.C. Raleigh it.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Yeah. We have a D.C. studio. Yeah. Fox, we have one. Let's do it. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to think about it. I'm going to think about it. All right, check him out at the spinning back fist MMA show at Barstool or hasn't done an episode. It wasn't a while, but they're very popular. Unpacked with Jack Mack, TikTok, Instagram, X, everywhere.
Starting point is 00:36:05 There he goes. See you, Jack. Thanks for being with us. See ya. Coming up, Congressman Andy Ogles has introduced the assimilation Act. He explains next on Wilcane Country. All right, there he goes, Jack Mack. I didn't mention at the top of the show, and I should have, because it's an incredible booking. Tinfo Pat and Two Days Dan, we are going to be joined here shortly. I don't know if he's ready.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Usually I get a text from you guys when the next guest is available. But we should be joined shortly by Congressman Andy Ogles, who along with Senator Tommy Tuberville has forwarded the Assimilation Act on the Fuller. of Congress, so that we've talked about a lot here at Wilcane Country, an act that would require greater controls on legal immigration. We talk a lot about illegal immigration, but greater controls on legal immigration, limiting the diversity lottery, limiting family reunification, focusing on who would make a good American, who wants to be American, somehow quantifying assimilation. And that actually might be my, the part of this that I am most interested in and here to talk a little more, put a little more flesh on the bones about the Assimilation Act is Congressman Andy Ogles. Congressman, it's good to have you back on the program.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Absolutely. Thanks for having me. Hey, let's just jump in. It's aptly named the Assimulation Act. If we cut through, okay, if you and I cut through to the bottom heart of the issue, It is, we want people in this country who want to be Americans, who will make good Americans, who can become good Americans. It's not a total shutdown on immigration. It is a much harder process to become an American. And part of that obviously entails assimilation. There's a lot you can do at the outset before you pass out the green card, before you grant citizenship.
Starting point is 00:38:10 but how do you do it once someone is welcomed into the country? Because that's the real issue. We got to see that they're assimilating once here. Not just a projection, I would hope, but also like a scorecard. Are you assimilating? Like, is there any way to do that? I know that Turkey does that. I think I've mentioned that to you in the past.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Turkey does that. Have you learned Turkish? You know, what's your employment status on an ongoing basis? That kind of thing. How do you measure assimilation? I mean, that's a great question. I mean, there's a process of fixing this immigration just failure that has been since 1965 with the Hartseller Act. And that set up the framework for this mass invasion that Joe Biden allowed into this country where he literally have 10 million, 12 million
Starting point is 00:38:58 people coming into this country. So that being said, you know, you end the H-1B visa scam, so we know we have fraud and abuse, you in-chain migration, you have to have a job to get here, You have to be of good moral character. So if you have a criminal record, you know, you're a member of MS-13 or Trennawa, you can't come in, no need to apply. That in of itself, I think, fixes a lot of it. But as you say, there's no guarantee. And so when you go back before 1965, we were only allowing people into this country
Starting point is 00:39:27 that, quite frankly, were coming from countries that shared our values. And so, and I'll give you a good example. So, I mean, obviously, I've been very outspoken on some of the Islamic violence that's taken place, the United States, but let's set that aside. Let's talk about Guatemala for a moment, where you have every 14 minutes a 14 year old girl is impregnated by an adult in Guatemala. I think it's a fair statement to say that I don't want adults coming into this country who want to impregnate 14 year old girls. You need not apply because your values do not align with our values. So the next phase of this immigration process will be my remigration bill. So you have assimilation,
Starting point is 00:40:05 so we're vetting you before you get here. We know who you are. You are. You've got a job. You want to be here. You want to be American. But then that next step is what you're talking about, which is where I've been working with the White House, is that accountability. So you've come here. And perhaps you came here under false pretense. How do we get you out of here? And I say it. And I say it again. It's our country. We get to decide who comes in. We also get to decide who has to leave. So I would even go one step further. We don't want somebody that would come in that would impregnate a 14-year-old girl. And we don't want people coming in that think it's okay or tolerate the idea of. of impregnating a 14-year-old girl. So that's the cultural issue. There's the criminal issue. That would literally be a criminal issue in America. Like if you impregnated a 14-year-old girl, that would be a criminal statute violation.
Starting point is 00:40:50 And I would hope we could move towards a direction where it could be grounds for denaturalization. But then there is a broader community and culture that tolerates that idea. And if that idea is acceptable in Guatemala, meaning, well, I wouldn't do it, but he shouldn't go to jail for it. Or I wouldn't do it. But that's just the way it is here in Guatemala. Well, then it should inform us on how many people from Guatemala should be coming to America. That's right. And you see a lot of these sex crimes involving minors.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And unfortunately, some of these minority communities are disproportionately from that region of Central America. So there's a call, and I'm not, you know, I don't want to be called a racist. I get called all sorts of names. I'm not saying everybody from those countries is bad. But there's a cultural issue from that country in particular. I was there just a few months ago. literally a nonprofit and they have a big storefront and they have a large sign that says, hey, we've got a problem in this country where we have 14-year-old girls getting impregnated
Starting point is 00:41:46 by adults. And so, again, you have to start vetting people who are coming into this country. And quite frankly, we only want the best and the brightest. So what are you offering our country? What is it that we need in the job sector that we don't have that Americans can't feel? Quite frankly, we have a lot of people not working in this country. I think most jobs can be filled. So it's America first, but it's also Americans first, American workers first, not illegals. Look, I think it's amazing that people want to come here. We're the most amazing country in the world. But just because you want to go here doesn't mean that you get to come here. Tell me more about the fraud within H-1B. What is the nature of the fraud? Is it hiring people
Starting point is 00:42:30 who are coming to do jobs that Americans could actually do so it's not satisfying the requirements of H-1B or getting them cheaper and holding them hostage under their, under their visa at certain wage rates? Like, where is the fraud in H-1B? Yes, is the answer. Any way the system can be used and abused, whether that's mass applications, you know, getting people here under false pretense, not paying them a fair wage, undercutting the labor market, putting Americans out of jobs.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I mean, literally any way you can slice and dice it, it's being done with H-1B visas, which is why we need to shut down the program. We need to rewrite the rules. We need to make it very difficult to come here under the H-1B visa program. And again, there has to be a demonstrated value for the American economy and the American people, why you would bring someone here under that H-1B visa program versus not hiring an American. And so again, especially in the technology sector where you see those visas being abused and quite frankly what they're doing they were getting a worker at cheap labor prices undercutting, you know, whether it's San Francisco or say Nashville, Tennessee or anywhere undercutting the labor market and putting people out of work, Americans out of work.
Starting point is 00:43:48 That's not the purpose of that program is to displace Americans. It is to shore up our job market and make sure that if you're an employer and you need workers that you can get skilled workers, but again, it's being abused. The same thing with chain migration. You know, the idea of migration is, you know, will you can come here and you can bring your immediate family. The problem is the way it's being used as your cousin and your so-called cousin and your sole-called cousin's cousin is all coming in. So one person that should be maybe two or three is 15 or 20. No more, no more because that's not the intent of the program, but it's being
Starting point is 00:44:21 abused and it's being used. And then again, under the Biden administration, you saw them trying to create these kind of fake statuses, temporary statuses to evade any sort of deportation. And so again, with my remigration bill, we're going to address all of that, make it easier to denaturalize someone like a Mom Donnie or maybe even an Ilhan who became a citizen under false pretense. So ultimately, they could be deported. Now, there's going to be a statute of limitations on some of those things. But that being said, it's going to start laying out this process of, hey, you came here, you said you want to be an American, you said you want to be a part of our community,
Starting point is 00:44:58 and you're going to assimilate. And if you don't, we're going to hold you accountable. Let's talk a minute about remigration. So as I hear you describing it, what I hear you talking about is the process of denaturalization. Those numbers are up. That's the process of taking away someone's naturalized citizenship, usually because they have come here under false pretenses, lied about their identity, lied about whatever it might be. There was also a caveat in the original denaturalization process about if it is found out that you're a supporter of the Communist Party. I'm not sure that's enforced in any way anymore.
Starting point is 00:45:32 But that should probably be expanded beyond just affiliations to communism to affiliations with terrorism and a terrorist organization, whatever it may be. But remigration in Europe has expanded beyond the concept of denaturalization. And we've seen it in many countries. We've seen it in Sweden. I believe we've now – I'm not sure that Germany has instituted it. I think that Hungary and Austria perhaps have the idea that some people have not fit into society. they are committing crimes at higher rates and what they have put in place
Starting point is 00:46:05 is an incentive structure for remigration. So they've said, I believe, and I'm shooting from the hip here, but I believe in Sweden, is it like 30 grand? The offer is 30 grand to return home. Also, by the way, some of these people are on welfare
Starting point is 00:46:21 at incredibly high rates. So you have to basically cut off the welfare for that money to be meaningful or have it be worth more than the welfare being received in the society. But they're drawing not just sticks, but carrots. So the way you see remigration, would you see something like that as well, like an incentive to go home? Well, I mean, I would say that, you know, if you are here and you came under the pretense that you're going to have a job
Starting point is 00:46:47 and you can be self-sufficient, if you don't have a job, if you lose that job, if you commit a crime, buy. You're automatically gone. I mean, like you came here saying that I have a job, that I've got a job, I'm going to be self-sufficient. So if you look under the Biden administration, roughly 200,000 Afghanis came here. Well, over 50% of them get welfare. Over 70% get free healthcare. Like that's not our job to give you free health care and free food and a free phone and free housing, right?
Starting point is 00:47:18 You came here under the pretext that you're going to be a part and contribute to our society. And if you can't see a buy. I mean, so again, you don't have to incentivize them leaving if they're not checking all the boxes, then you've got to get out of here. And so like if you can denaturalize system, someone who has become a citizen, anyone below that status would be easier to remove because they don't have a legal, you know, citizenship status in this country. So if you're here on a temporary work visa, if you're here on some sort of status other than citizenship, if you commit a crime, buy. It's automatic deportation. If you lose your job and you end up going
Starting point is 00:47:54 on welfare or free health care, buy, you shouldn't be here. And so again, if you're you and I would go to the UAE and we were going to go there with a job sponsor, and we were to lose our jobs, they put us on the next plane out of there. I mean, that's the way most of the world used to do it, and that's the way we need to be doing it going forward. Okay, I've pressed you on this a couple of times. I pressed you in Senator Tuberville on this on the television show. I mean, I love these ideas. And I think your answer to me last time is, look, essentially, we're expanding the Overton's window. We're having conversations. that we didn't used to have, but they do need to turn into some sense of action as well. You said you're having conversations with the White House. Well, that's good, but it would still have to get through the House and obviously as well through the Senate. Let's just start with your colleagues.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Let's not even worry about Democrats yet. Yeah. Like, is there a sense within the Republican conference that something like this, any of these, start with the Simulation Act, would have a prayer? Yeah, I think the assimilation act especially, which is why I broke them up. So remigration is going to be more controversial because you're talking about removing people from this country. Now I don't find it controversial, but some of my colleagues might.
Starting point is 00:49:12 So understanding that we'll have to overcome those objections, you get to the assimilation act, which are literally kitchen table type of conversations. We're going to cut the fraud and abuse out of H1Bs. We're going to in-chain migration so only the immediate family can come. You have to be of good moral character. So if you're a thug and a criminal with a criminal record, you can't come here. Again, I think most people get that. And just, again, common sense approach to if you want to come here, you've got to have a job,
Starting point is 00:49:42 you can't get welfare. If you want to come here, you've got to be a good person, you can't get free health care. Kitchen table stuff, right? We've got veterans not getting services. We have kids that don't have school books. We have veterans killing themselves at 20 to 22 a day. That's my priority. That's our priority, not illegals who we're going to be.
Starting point is 00:49:59 want to come here and suck us dry and getting free health care and free food. Okay, yes. But what I mean is like I don't want to work from the extremes because I feel like your battle is even more uphill than getting to the fringes. What I mean by the fringes would be, you know, are you going to get Carlos Jimenez? Are you going to get the sponsors like Mike Lawler of the Dignity Act? Are you going to get some of these people to see your points on the Simulation Act? But I think so.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I actually think if you were having that debate, if you were there, Congressman, that would be like, hey, you're on the five-yard line. This is good stuff. I'm not even sure you're getting, I don't know. I don't know. I'm asking you. I'm not there talking to all of these guys. I mean, could you get Senator Ted Cruz on with something like this? Could you get John Cornyn, who's been a supporter of amnesty at various times on this? Could you get, you know, I don't know, your, your center-right guy from wherever. Could you get Rand Paul from your state? on with this? Well, he's Kentucky. I'm Tennessee. I'm sorry, he's Kentucky. Kentucky, right. Sorry. It hit you right after I said that. No, but I think that's a great question, because, again,
Starting point is 00:51:10 which is why that I've broken it apart, because the assimilation act is something that most kitchen table conversations would agree with. And so that gives space for a Mike Lawler or a Ted Cruz or wherever they are on the spectrum to say, okay, we've got to reform this process. We've shut down the border. We know that the immigration system is broken. So let's clean it up. Right? If that means tearing it down and starting all over, fine. If that means making major reforms, fine. However we get to that outcome, that's what we need to do. Now, the real problem, and so to answer your question pointedly, I think we can pass the Assimilation Act through the House of Representatives because I think ultimately the American people want it even in
Starting point is 00:51:49 a bluer district like Lawlers. Now, you go to the Senate, they can't even pass the Save America Act that has an 83, 85 percent approval rate with everybody, Democrats, Republicans, and so our real fight as we go forward is going to be the Senate not necessarily the House. Now that next step with remigration, that's going to be a heavier lift, but it's a lift that I'm willing to take, you know, to take on and to do because we have to do it to save our republic. But I'm cautiously optimistic and once we get past reconciliation, assuming that the Senate can pass it today, that we'll start having these meaningful, meaningful conversations of,
Starting point is 00:52:25 okay, we shut down the border, right? President Trump campaigned. on that. He campaigned on making our communities safer and, quite frankly, kicking people out that don't belong here. And so this is delivering on that second and third point of that conversation, why we're reforming and we're deporting and we're making sure that the people that come here want to be here, should be here, and aren't going to commit crimes once they're in our communities. What about President Trump? You said you're talking to the White House. Now, President Trump at times has been pretty open to, you know, workers in the hospitality industry and various industries that do bring in a lot of foreign labor. Is this something that President Trump is supportive of, the Assimilation Act?
Starting point is 00:53:05 Well, I'm not going to speak for the President, but again, the whole purpose of the Assimilation Act is that we're looking at our economy and say, where do we need workers? Is that ag? Okay, then we can bring in those types of workers. Is it tech? Well, then we'll bring in those type of workers. But if we don't need those type of workers, then those folks. folks aren't getting approved to come into this country. So we're allow our immigration should match the needs of our communities and our job markets,
Starting point is 00:53:31 not just some come one, come all. Again, we get to decide who comes in. We also get to decide who leaves. And so if the market doesn't need, whether it's ag, whether it's tech, whether it's health care, whatever it is, you can make that that determination, whether it's quarterly or every six months or annually. As the market is needing people, look, we're the greatest economy in the world. And if the president, whoever the administration says, you know what, we need workers that are going to do X, please apply.
Starting point is 00:53:58 You'll have applications from all over the world, right? That's not the issue. The issue is controlling the people that are coming in and making sure that we're getting people that actually want to do the work and not going to take welfare, health care, et cetera, from American taxpayers. Well, I will commit to this. When we have senators on, Senator John Kennedy comes on a lot, but I'll ask them all. I'll ask them, where would you be on the Assimilation Act? That'd be an interesting start with that poll now on where it would sit in the United States Senate. All right, Congressman Ogles, let's keep talking as you first push the Assimilation Act and moved towards remigration.
Starting point is 00:54:35 We appreciate the conversation as always. Thank you. Yes, sir. Thank you. Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Cain Country. All right, Congressman Andy Ogles of Tennessee, I am going to admit something. Sometimes. I want you to think. I want you think of a map, the United States map, okay? Just in your head.
Starting point is 00:54:57 There are certain areas of the map, certain areas of the map that blend to you. Yes, they blend. Like, for a long time in my life, growing up, certainly, like when I got, you know, when they used to put the blank map on the table and then you had to fill in the states, my hardest always, always growing up was the Northeast, was New England. because it just blended together in my head. It just did. It's like which one's New Hampshire and which one's Vermont.
Starting point is 00:55:25 It's always, it was always like, does it even matter? I take offense. That's the way it was in my head. What is wrong with you? I know you do. I know you do. I don't think I'm alone, but I think I'm just telling you the way it is. Also, by the way, you'd get in a little bit of trouble back in the day.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Now we're talking like in seventh grade whenever you did this stuff. When you got into the square states, the square states were hard. That's what's tough for me. You know, when you got over into Wyoming and Colorado and Utah, I mean, Utah is easy. It's got a unique shape. But once you kind of got over in that area, it could be difficult. I could nail it now, for the record. I could nail it.
Starting point is 00:56:03 I bet I could nail a map. How long? I need enough time to write the word. So if you give me that time, that's all the time I need. I won't puzzle over a single state. What about the 51st state? just be how long does it it'll be able to get that one he'll only take me
Starting point is 00:56:21 how long is it take to write the word Wisconsin that's how long so I need what do I need 90 seconds to fill in the map yeah we do that tomorrow sure that would be a riveting television the the actually I think that those are the type of things on
Starting point is 00:56:40 Instagram and TikTok that get like a million to we could just show you the state and then you just name it If I just click, oh, I don't, I don't like that as much, Dan. I could do it like the free floating state. Yeah. Free floating or a blank map. I don't like free floating as much as blank map. So you get context.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Yeah, well, free floating takes geography out of it. It's just like shape of states. True. And I could still do that probably. I could probably still do that. But I will admit that, I mean, there was a time. There was a time. I will bat 90% on capitals.
Starting point is 00:57:18 90% on capitals. So what does that mean? I can miss five. No, yeah, I could miss five. Pretty good. Vermont. Vermont is, isn't it Montpelier? Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:57:34 So, yeah. The, the, the, you know, you want to say, you want to say Burlington, but it's not. you have to remind yourself. It sounds like it's in France, Montpelier. Kentucky and Tennessee have blended to me in my life before. It's like, you know, I wonder how culturally different the two are. I mean, I've spent some time in Tennessee. I've never spent any time in Kentucky. None. Because it's a bourbon. So I wonder.
Starting point is 00:58:03 You both think bourbon. Don't they feel like, yes, I do think that's it, Patrick. Don't you feel like they're brother states? Like if every state has a brother, are they brothers? Yeah, for sure. I agree. You drive through them, like they're right next to each other, right? What is Florida's brother state?
Starting point is 00:58:20 We don't have one. I would suggest it's Georgia. I was going to say Georgia, too. It's Georgia. Florida Georgia line, there's literally a thing. Yeah, and Alabama's brothers with Mississippi, I think. That's how that works. Connecticut's Rhode Island.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Texas is probably brothers with Oklahoma. Louisiana is like its own thing. I'm not sure Louisiana has a brother. You know? It's too unique. Too single. Yeah. New Hampshire, New Hampshire, Vermont belong together.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Suzanne from Kentucky in the chat is saying, we are so different than Tennessee. How dare you? Really? Mm-hmm. So different than Tennessee? Yeah. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Let's do some shows there. I like this brother game. What's California is Oregon? States brother. California is kind of Arizona. Or Mexico. I think it's like, I think what we're doing is what culture is the most similar, kind of. Would you kind of think that's what we're doing?
Starting point is 00:59:28 Yeah. Or would it be Nevada? No, I think I'm going to Arizona with California. Well, whoever they steal water from, I guess. Oregon and Washington are together. Montana and Idaho are together. Colorado and Wyoming are together. New Mexico's unique, like Louisiana.
Starting point is 00:59:51 It's on its own. North Dakota and Minnesota. Kansas and Nebraska. Yeah. No, no. North Dakota, South Dakota, of course. And then Kansas, Nebraska, or Kansas, Missouri. Is it Kansas, Missouri or Kansas, Nebraska, brothers? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I don't know how I got onto this, talking about Kentucky and Tennessee. Because you mixed them up about the... ...together to me. The person. the politicians yeah yeah yeah can i can i say something from the chat we we have a very interesting one just to it's a clap back at uh tim foyle pat from earlier in the show um diane wants to say i'm so sick of boomer critique talking to you tim tinfoil pat sitting on our perch give me a break i'm 74 still working like a dog every day trying to get to a point where i can
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Starting point is 01:00:58 yeah snot nose boomers nailed it with snot nose way to go diane you ever see those videos of boomer versus gen X versus millennial lingo you know and
Starting point is 01:01:10 that's a boomer term snot nose yeah it's great it's a great one bring it back again they stole it from a better generation the silent generation probably just FYI just like they stole everything else the entire legacy that they got
Starting point is 01:01:27 was from the silent generation and then they just wrote it killing my ratings we love you boomers I didn't know there was seven our parents 74 year olds on is that YouTube it's got to be Facebook is Diane watching on Facebook YouTube instead of she's on YouTube 74
Starting point is 01:01:44 on YouTube with the life likes of clavicular. We got Betty, who's 86. Betty? Betty's 86. Betty's just lighten up millennials. Yeah. Lighten up millennials like snot-nosed pat.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Yeah. Get them. Millennials. Are millennials the winniest generation ever? No, Gen Z took that over recently, I think. Sorry, Connor. He's shaking its head. You think?
Starting point is 01:02:11 We're not whiny. I don't know. Sorry if we're speaking truth. We're literally truth-tenthed. That's what it is. And you guys don't want to hear the truth. Can I turn off his mic for a little while? No.
Starting point is 01:02:27 He's just a millennial. Sorry. He's a little late. I'm not sorry. Zoloft. I'll never apologize. Late on his Zoloft. He'll get there.
Starting point is 01:02:35 He missed his telehealth appointment. As soon as his socialist policies come in and get him his zoloft or he gets on Trump RX, he'll get back. Deb Robinson on YouTube. says, Talian Boomer here, grew up more Gen X, worked two jobs, went to college at night, worked 24-7 for years to get a comfortable income, still working, and no $28 lunches during the week. Bang. Yeah. Deb. Take that. Do not. Let's do it. Deb is take. No, no, no. You know, these people, okay, whoa. Restaurants start, what, restaurants started in the 60s, starting expanding. We had the burger and cola wars in the 70s and 80s. Millennials,
Starting point is 01:03:18 didn't exist. Gen Z didn't exist. It expanded because of you people. What do you mean you people? You people. Boomers. Boomers. The convenience of restaurants. A late baby boomer.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Whoa. Hey. Late baby boomer grew up Gen X. What is that? What do you presume that means? Is she born in 64? Would that be like 64? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Baby Boomer grew up as Gen X, probably. Yeah. When does Gen X start? Is it 65? 65. Yes. 65 to 80? Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Yep. Genesis on YouTube says, Kevin is a smart man. Listen to his advice. Yeah, Pat. Listen to Mr. Wonderful. And Christine says, packing your lunch is healthier as you get.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Yeah, Pat, why don't you set down the raising canes? A little less long. John Silver's Pat, okay? Yeah. Put down the gordita, Pat. Okay? Put down the mouth. Put down the crunchy.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Where do you think I'm going? Where do you think I'm going? I work during lunch. Where do you think I'm, huh? Hell? Probably. Boomer hell. That's where we are right now. In America.
Starting point is 01:04:44 They still run stuff, so. God, I didn't know this is going to turn into. apologize to everybody watching that we're just going to have this this um i always forget the word for patrick he's a um malcontent a misanthrope this misanthropic uh that's a great way to put it this misanthropic black pilled taco bell eaten millennial would just come in today just off the top rope over and over that's your wwee character i just did it i just gave you your character in WWE. That's who you are. Meanwhile, the Gen Z is
Starting point is 01:05:23 saying the same thing about us that we're saying about Boomer, so it's just very cyclical. My people, my people are like the silent generation. They're the silent generation of this generation. Gen X is the silent generation of this generation.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Nobody's targeting us. We're really going about our business. You can't complain about us too much. Have we talked about this? is Marco Rubio the only hope for a Gen X president? Because J.D. Vance is a millennial. Gavin Newsom is probably Gen X, right?
Starting point is 01:06:01 So if it goes Democrat, it's Rubio or Newsom as a Gen X president. And that's it probably, one and done. One and done on the Gen X front. I mean, you still got some time. You got some time. You should be angry too. You should be angry too.
Starting point is 01:06:16 The boomers took your your, uh, your legacies. Genet should have been I don't have been Power for the last 10 years I worry about me I don't worry about other people I don't worry about generations Barack was almost
Starting point is 01:06:32 I'm like a virtual Instagram self-help What is he a late baby boomer Yeah he's 61 1961 And who's the other one you said He said another one Gavin Newsom was almost He's 1967
Starting point is 01:06:48 So he just made the cut too he's an early gen Xer. He's 67. So Gavin is Gavin is 59. He's doing good for 59. He's looking good. Does he dye his hair?
Starting point is 01:07:03 Everybody accuses me a dying in my hair. Can't start complimenting Gavin Newsom now. We're hating on boomers, complimenting Gavin Newsom. What are we doing? I'm an objective truth teller. You want to read this last one, then? I can tell the way it is.
Starting point is 01:07:19 But the Diane one? Diane said one more thing. She goes, in quotes, boomer slop is ridiculously disrespectful. These birthright babies should kiss the feet of boomers. Who the hell do you think you built this country? Spoiled and title lazy brats. Robber bearings, the silent generation, those are who built the country. Diane is coming for you.
Starting point is 01:07:43 And you're just living off of it. I mean. I watch the Hitcher Channel, pal. I want you to look at our numbers today, and I want you to compare him to tomorrow. I want you to see what he's single-handedly done to my numbers. Poll question. Does tinfoil pat ruined our audience? Look at him, just smiling all the way.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Because that's what these misanthropic Taco Bell eat millennials are. They're agents of destruction. In the end, that's all they want to do. Take things down. Look, the baby boomers may have lived on the achievements of, the greatest generation. That may be true. They may be single-handedly responsible for the greatest growth in the welfare state over the last half century. That's true. They may be the, well, it was the older people that brought it in, but they are the beneficiaries of Medicare,
Starting point is 01:08:35 Medicaid, Social Security, and all the things that are not promised to the later generations. However, they are not the destroyer cometh. You are the destroyer cometh. The millennials, the black pillars, the gen's ears, all you want is chaos and destruction. You've got no solutions. So your only answer is to destroy. That's why so many, You were flat out communists. You just, yeah, that's right. Don't say that word today, the accelerationists, because that's what those dudes were in San Diego, as it turns out.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Oh, were they? Oh, yeah, no, no, no, no, that was a joke. Self-styled, self-styled. Really? Accelerationists. Yeah, I don't like that. Yeah, that's what I mean. Which just means accelerate the decline.
Starting point is 01:09:13 It just means accelerate the decline. You are the destroyers. You are the, you are, and don't think you're Thanos. You are something, you're, you're freaking. I like nihilist. What's the dude in Lord of the Rings? You're Gullum. You're that kind of destroyer.
Starting point is 01:09:32 You're sneaky. Death by a thousand cuts. Complaining, whining, hairless. That's you. That's your style of destruction. Yes. From the bottom up, inside the muck, halfway submerged.
Starting point is 01:09:43 That's your style of destruction. Just remember who you are. Translucent skin. Sharpened teeth. American. Coveting the precious of the baby boomers. That's going to do it for us today here on Wilking Country. Hope to follow us on Spotify.
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