Will Cain Country - L.A. Riots Break Gov. Gavin Newsom And His 2028 Presidential Chances (ft. the Ruthless Variety Progrum and Bradley Devlin)

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

Story #1: Will is joined by the Hosts of the 'Ruthless Variety Progrum,' Josh Holmes, Comfortably Smug, Michael Duncan, and John Ashbrook to continue the break down of the immigration riots in Los Angeles, the hypocrisy of Gov. Gavin Newsom (D-CA), and the deeper ideological motivations behind Left-wing governance.  Story #2: Bradley Devlin, Politics Editor at 'The Daily Signal,' then joins Will to analyze the media’s framing of the riots in Los Angeles, the Marxist history of L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, and the threat of Chinese migration to the United States via Mexico.  Story #3: Olympic gymnast Simone Biles issues a hedged apology to Riley Gaines and Will and The Crew take a look into the finalized settlement between the NCAA and the House of Representatives. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, ignore the will of the people, the results of a popular election, ignore the rule of law, ignore the enforcement of law, remove federal enforcement officers from our state. The words of Jefferson Davis or Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass. and California Governor Gavin Newsom with the ruthless variety program. Two, thousands, tens of thousands of illegal immigrants from China just in over two to three years. They're not here at home in the United States, just south of our border in Mexico. With the daily signals, Bradley Devin. Three, a settlement for the NCAA.

We now have a salary cap and a changed land. landscape in college sports that will only, of course, lead to more lawsuits. It is the Will Kane show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern Time set a reminder that way you can join us. you can subscribe to the will cane show on youtube you can jump into the comment section and you can become a member of the willisha if you're listening on terrestrial radio just head on over to spotify or apple and hit subscribe and that way you can listen to us at your leisure on your schedule on demand we got two of days dan and tinfoil pat hanging out with us today yesterday somebody was asking me hey why do you call them tinfoil hey why do you call them two a days i said well Patrick is prone to conspiracy. So he's always ready to put on his tin foil hat.

I presume people still know what a tin foil hat means in the world of conspiracy. And as for two days, I don't know. I inherited that nickname for Dan. He came over to us from the Dan Patrick show. I can only presume two days that it has something to do with your high school football schedule. Twice a day. Hair. That's due with my hair.

So I had the Bieber bangs. Your hair. Yeah, so you know that show on MTV back in the day, two a days about the Alabama quarterbacks from Hoover High. So one of the higher-ups at AT&T, they own the Dan Patrick show said, hey, you look like one of those quarterbacks from two a days stuck. Because Dan's Dan, I can't be Dan.

It's back to your hair. Yeah. Of course. Of course it's not about your high school football schedule. It's about your hipster days of tight jeans and floppy Justin Bieber blow-dried up hair. Pony boots and tight jeans and. perfect hair. There is a sad notification of why his nickname

is Two a Days. Hey, Governor Gavin Newsome of California post on X. U.S. Marines have been serving honorably across multiple wars in defense of democracy. They are heroes.

They shouldn't be deployed on American soil facing their own countrymen to fulfill the deranged fantasy of a dictatorial president. This is un-American. Gavin Newsom has posted roughly 175 times on X while the streets of L.A. burn. It's an interesting accusation, something being un-American. Let's go through a quick highlights of Gavin Newsom.

He's lied to constituents about eating at a fancy restaurant in the middle of a pandemic when everybody was sent home and everything else was shut down. He's prioritized illegal immigrants in his state when it comes to free health care. Now he prioritizes the flags of foreign countries flying and rioting. on the streets of Los Angeles. He only cleaned up San Francisco when there was a promise of a visit from Chinese president Xi Jinping. He's denigrated border patrol agents as racists.

He's removed parents' right to know. Hey, he's your kid transitioning in school? You don't have a right to know. He's created a specific exemption in California. There's new fast food wage laws that benefited his political allies. And he's allowed men, of course, to win state championships in women. sports just a few of the un-American things done by Gavin Newsom but wait till you dive into wait till we today together dive into the also American background of Los Angeles mayor Karen Bass

Newsom and Bass are absolutely guilty of enabling sedition on the streets of California in my mind when you fly a foreign flag while breaking windows and burning cars when you rally under banner of the flag of Mexico. Against government authority and enforcement of the popular will of the American people. Not only did we elect Donald Trump to enforce immigration laws, they are overwhelmingly popular in every poll, including, notably, in really enthusiastic tones, CNN's Harry Inton, among Latinos. When you do that, you are guilty of the technical definition of sedition. And of course, sedition is something that manifests into insurrection.

What you see, I think, on the streets of Los Angeles is nothing short of insurrection. But as we've learned, you always accuse others of your own sins. And so among his 175 posts on X, Gavin Newsom, is throwing around the word insurrection. 2,000 National Guard troops, 700 U.S. U.S. Marines and, of course, ice agents, are deployed to Los Angeles. Gavin Newsom has acted like this is a usurpation of states' rights.

Sounding like Jefferson Davis, he says, get out of Los Angeles. All of a sudden, he's interested in federalism. But for what? But for what? To ensure that what you and I vote for, what the president enforces our laws are not enforced in the People's Republic of California. Gavin Newsom political career is dead and buried. There is no scenario where you can be elected to represent the will of the people of the United States of America

when your priorities lie with the people of foreign countries. Done. It's over. And not just to represent the people of foreign countries, but to violently enable, rally them. on the streets of Los Angeles. Let's get into all this today with story number one. Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, comfortably smugged, and John Ashbrook are the host of the Ruthless Variety Program. And they join us here today on the Will Kane Show.

What's up, fellas? Hey, Will, good to see you, buddy. Thanks for having us. Glad to have you. I'm flying blind. I'm like a pilot in the middle of the night, flying only on instruments. I have no visual.

I can't see you guys today, but that's okay. We've now well-established our chemistry, both digitally and on television. So I can bump, you said, we'll let Ashbrook spike from time to time, but we can play this. You guys can bat it around your table there at Ruthless. You know, Gavin Newsom's, it seems like his number one action over the past, what has it been now, 72 hours, has been posting on X. And in this tweet that I just read to the, audience. I think he got down to the nuts and bolts of it when he said that they shouldn't be deployed to fulfill the deranged fantasy of a dictatorial president. In the end, all this

comes down to is living out the fever dreams of Donald Trump's dictatorship. You can hear him saying it. This is a precedent. This is a start. It starts in California. You'll be in your state. Pretty soon we'll have a full federal takeover of every city in America. Fellas. There's a Republican in the White House. It's summertime in the city. So why not have a bunch of good riots out there, right? It's a time-honored tradition off the left-hand side, at least in recent years. And the thing that I look, setting aside Gavin Newsom for a minute, the thing that the left has done with great frequency is regardless of whether the cause is a Palestinian, you know, basically an anti-Semitic message or whether it's here, basically.

basically waving flags of Mexico despite the fact that they don't want to live there. Whatever it is, the reason for the uprising is always not them, right? It's Donald Trump in this case. And there would be peace, if not, for the existence of Donald Trump. Like his mere existence in enforcing laws that the American people elected him overwhelmingly to enforce. If there's one message that was clearer than that, you let me know. It's immigration. And the fact that he goes about doing it, well, now we have to burn down the cars. And let's rewind the tape for Gavin Newsom. You know, when Joe Biden was president and they were trying to put Donald Trump in prison, it was no one's above the law.

Oh, yeah. No one's above the law. And then, you know, the first hundred days of the Trump administration, it is, well, we need the due process. You can't just deport these people. So then Donald Trump's administration goes to federal judges, gets lawful searches for these. detainment of violent illegal aliens. Judge ordered warrants. Right. Due process. Due process. And now their problem is well, he's actually a dictator. He followed the law and that makes him a dictator. Outrageous.

Yeah, this has said well on X by Sonny Wright, said if you don't want mobs burning down our cities, you shouldn't have tried to enforce the law. So this is your fault. Seems to be the actual position of the Democratic Party leadership in California. They have turned

this on Donald Trump. Hey, you shouldn't have ice here. Hey, you shouldn't have the National Guard here. Hey, you shouldn't deploy Marines to Los Angeles. That's why this is all happening. It's actually you enforcing the law that's causing the lawlessness. And so one thing that I think isn't being discussed enough is what the Democrats are doing with this message. Their overall theme, what they're trying to say their motivation is, is they're like, this is tearing apart communities, that these are, these are Californians, these are Angelinos, these are, these are us, you know, these are Americans, and what they're doing is they're graying the whole situation. These are illegal immigrants. These are people who

broke the law the day that they crossed that border illegally, and they are in this country illegally. That's already a crime that's been made, and they're trying to, you know, muddle the waters of every immigrant. They're just immigrants. They very quickly go. got rid of the illegal because they knew if you tell people something's illegal, they know it's wrong. So they say undocumented to try to muddle it a little bit. And now they don't even go with undocumented. They just say, these are Americans. Well, and it's so unjust that you're simply going to have to loot an Apple store. Yeah. That is, as we all know, the way that you get around sort of federalism arguments is just taking an eye pattern. The only way to stop Tom Homan

is to steal an iPhone. That's right. And that's why they're saying from the river to the see, MacBook Pros will be free. Don't forget. Don't forget sushi restaurant. So we got to, in order to oppose Tom Homan, we must have free sushi. Sushi restaurants also being alluded in LA. Smug, the language is fascinating. I'll see if we can do this together.

So, you know, if we were around the clock, I think we probably would have to go back 15 years, maybe 10. You know, a commonly accepted term was illegal. alien. Okay. Nobody is an alien. These are people. Illegal immigrants. No human being is illegal. These are undocumented immigrants. Okay. Now it is, um, it went to undocumented persons. I heard CNN now using the phrase undocumented citizens. I'm not sure what that means. That's, that's an interesting turn of phrase. Um, and then from undocumented citizens, I think you're right smug, we've just gone to full on immigrant. Drop the idea of undocumented or illegal. What we're looking at is an attack on

immigrants. And this is very Orwellian wordplay intentional. It probably intended to deepen the empathy well or broaden the empathy well to bring more people to the table. But it does, of course, obscure the essential component. Illegal. All of this is about the enforcement of illegal immigration. And that's the thing is they are. trying to first off something that they've done for years is they've tried to weaponize individuals empathy against themselves they've been telling Americans no listen if we don't if we don't allow illegal immigration this child is going to cry you don't want the child to cry you know just because uh his parents entered illegal

in his dad has been human trafficking but the child's going to cry if we arrest him you know so our empathy has already been weaponized against us secondly this bet that the the Democrats have made that, oh, if we can muddle it and say these are just immigrants, then legal immigrants. And they made their biggest bet on the Latinos. They're like, Latinos are going to be on our side if we support illegal immigrants. And Latinos are like, absolutely not. No. They showed up in record numbers for Trump. And they've corrupted the whole language, too. I saw how Karen Bass on one of these interviews was saying, well, what Donald Trump doesn't understand is that L.A. is an international city. That was hard.

You know, it's not an American city in the mind of the radical left. I mean, they don't believe in our borders. They don't believe in American sovereignty. And I think the reason why will is that you scratch a liberal and you'll find a Marxist underneath it every single time. These people don't believe in the idea of America, so it's very easy for them to subvert it. Well, it goes, listen, we talk a lot about this on the variety program, but the modern left is made up of all of these weird silos constellation of left-wing. And like, yes, this is all started apparently because of ice raids and that kind of thing. But if you take a look at what you're seeing out in the streets and in the Apple store and everything else,

there's people with Palestinian armbands on, you got what's her name, the Teachers Union gal who's trying to recognize. Randy Wine Garden. Yeah, somehow, like somebody whose job it is to get teachers raises is now all of a sudden in the streets and like what that has to do in the nexus of ice raids and pro-Palestinian and, you know, Pretty soon you're going to see people out there like no blood for oil, you know, you're going to get like to save the whales crowd and all that. I mean, it's just they just want a riot. They just want to riot. And that's what you see with the modern left. There's been a lot of discussion here lately about how violent it has become. They are showing you this. I mean, you're talking about all of the anti-Semitic attacks that are happening that are violent in nature, people being shot and killed in cities across this country. But this is basically what they're embracing. this modern anarchism, in large part because they don't have their hands on power. So it's, you know, let's just wave it through. Okay, I want to put a pin in what Holmes and Duncan just started to take me down, because I want to go somewhere else for a moment.

First, Ashbrook, if I'm correct, on the Ruthless Variety program, you guys had Roseanne Barr today, right? And she, is she live in L.A.? And I know that you guys were posting about this. Tell us what Roseanne had to say about what's going on in L.A. Well, these fellas probably have a better sense of it because unfortunately I wasn't able to make the interview, but I will tell you that she is very entertaining. I mean, she is, she's one of the best guests we've ever had on the show, I think. Terrific. You know, look, Roseanne's great superpower is somehow rising from basically nothing to capturing the heart of America over a 15 year period of time in large part because she never lost her connection with the middle class.

She sees things entirely clear-eyed in a way that millions of people across the middle of this country see it. And that never changed despite the fact that she was, you know, at one time, probably the most famous woman in all of America. And that through line is sort of what we examined on the show today that has led her to the point where she was fired for a tweet. And like what she's up to today and why she's been a vocal supporter of Donald Trump, despite the fact that all of Hollywood and the establishment where she, you know, supposedly may. a living and became a star is adamantly against all that. It takes an awful lot of courage, but it's her sort of underpinning of connection with the middle of this country that I think has made her what she is. Well, we've got to check that out at the Ruthless Variety Program, which that episode should be up

right now. You can go check it out at Apple or on Spotify. Okay, before I come back to this ideological underpinning that I wanted to return to, I was surprised to read in the Wall Street Journal today. it was a really fascinating piece in that I wondered where it was coming from and was talking about these ice rates. In the Wall Street Journal today, they talked about this is what they suggest that deportation numbers over the first, whatever we're at, 100-something days of the Trump administration, aren't meeting the goals that everybody wanted. And in fact, there was a line in the

journal article that said weren't even meeting the numbers through the last year of the Biden presidency. I don't know if that's true. I haven't dug into those numbers. But the marching orders came down. hey you got to do more and focusing on criminals and gang members aren't isn't enough and so the policy shift was um to start going after every illegal immigrant so so you hear you can again you can hear it on CNN you can hit the left talking about they're going to home depot you know for the day labor market it sits outside of home depot almost inevitably and always illegal now um this article in in the journal was like sort of negative toward the trump administration and suggesting this is set off a lot of what we saw in LA, they're now going after

regular, I guess, illegal immigrants. Now, look, I live in Texas. I know you guys live in the beltway, but illegal immigration is a pretty, a pretty, I don't know about ever present, but it's not a distant part of my life. Like, I know illegal immigrants. I'm around them. And you have relationships and you have empathy and you see, you definitely do see people who are here to do good or work hard or provide for their family, all of these things, you know, and I've had conversations with them about in some are concerned and some are not. But, you know, and I'm, you know how I am. I'm the kind of friends like, if I can't say something honestly to you, then I don't think we're really friends. I'm like, yeah, this is a

risk, though, that you took, right? You took this risk. And then there's a moment in these conversations of acknowledgement. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, this is exactly what I chose to do. The point I'm getting at is like even the journal sitting here expanding the scope of empathy seems to suggest we're not supposed to think laws should be enforced simply for illegal immigration. But that's what the American people didn't vote just to deport MS-13. The American people voted to deport illegal immigrants. Yeah, so I want to take one step back. There's something that I've been really thinking about, and I think it's important to convey to folks, is while it is politically a horrible, horrible stance to take, why are Democrats defending illegal immigration? Even though they were rebuked

in the presidential election, why are they so strongly in support of illegal immigration? Well, it's because illegal immigrants are counted in the census. And the census decides how many House votes each state gets. And they go to war over that issue, too. I mean, you recall in the first Trump administration, there was a lot of discussion on the Republican side when they had the House and the Senate about attempting to wane that in, try to get a directive from Congress that you can only count American citizens, Democrats with nuts. They wouldn't allow anything to pass unless it included the illegal population, which is insane, right, because it's apportionment.

Basically, the census matters because it dedicates not only congressional districts of representation, but federal resources based on where those population centers are. And I don't know, maybe this is old fashioned, but I always thought the federal government was there to serve the American taxpayer and the American citizen. And they just fundamentally blow through that argument. So you're absolutely right. I mean, this is a design in some ways. If you were to eliminate the entire illegal immigrant population of a place like L.A., it would have a significantly smaller representation, significantly fewer federal resources dedicated to it. And like that's sort of you end up sort of understanding where the hypothesis is.

on the Democrat side. I mean, how many, what was our House majority after the 2010 election? We had like a 30, 40 seat House majority. More than that. It's 50 plus. 50 plus. And now we're squeaking and fighting for having three, four seat majority in the House. Things have changed.

Each census that we've had subsequently has accounted for more and more illegal aliens, which are getting a greater share of apportionment of resources and representation, which is intended for U.S. citizens. Well, and if you look at CNN had a poll. I think Harry Anton was going through it this morning talking about the shift among immigrants to the Republican Party in the voting population, voting population of immigrants. So legal immigrants. What does it tell to those legal immigrants if you turn a blind eye to people breaking the law? It tells them, well, you're a sucker for doing it the right way. Why did you do that? And I think fundamentally we break our promise to those people who are shifting our direction if we don't enforce the law. 100%. That was something along those lines, that was something I learned in New York City politics. The most, on illegal immigration, the most right-wing-based part of New York City was Chinatown.

They did not want illegal immigration because they know how difficult it is to legally emigrate to this country. And it's unfair for them to have someone essentially cut them in line and be able to get it. But more along the discussion is, so you. see that illegal immigrants are championed by the Dems because they get more power along these lines they concentrate in left-wing cities which establish themselves as sanctuaries now the problem lies for the the Trump administration in the actual tactic of how do we get rid of illegal aliens so if you want to put up big

numbers definitely you'd go to these these blue states you go to these large blue cities and you try to go after all the illegals there but then you're faced with now you've got activist judges now you've got riots. Now you've got the entire Democrat machine mobilizing to make life as difficult as possible for you. The number of, you look at the deportation numbers, yes, they are down compared to the fourth quarter of Biden because Biden didn't have judges who were trying to stop him at every single point. Biden didn't have riots trying to stop him at every single point. When Democrats have control, they just exercise what they want. They don't believe

in anything. They just believe in power. Yeah, I think smug also, you just hit on a very important point. The, I idea that these riots will maintain only in L.A., you'd be diluting yourself to think that this is going to stop in L.A. These are going to spread all across our country. Josh mentioned Randy Weingarten. She's supposed to be sticking up for teachers. She's organizing a bunch of left-wing lunatics to host riots around the country, starting this Saturday on June 14th. She posted a map. They've got all these spots where they're going to hold these left-wing riots. And you know that everything you're seeing in L.A. is coming to a town near you very, very soon. And it's because

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Download and listen at Fox Newspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. Welcome back to the Will Kane Show. And I think that started last night. We saw some of this in Dallas. We saw some in New York. It'll be interesting, to your point, Ashbrook, on what happens this coming Saturday. Okay, I want to go back for a moment. Smug picked up the ball where Duncan left off on this, this why.

Okay. Now, sometimes I'm a sucker for the why, like, meaning I want to know how someone who've used this so differently than me could be thinking. And I don't know why I want to know. I don't know if it's curiosity or if it's for the purpose of like, you know, rationalizing and debating in my head, everyone's position. But, you know, we've hit on a couple of issues. So first of all, the Democratic politician miscalculated to your point that I could engender empathy and votes and support by championing this cause in the Latino population. That seems to be a miscalculation. Then you drop down a level from sheer politics to power, and that is what you've laid out, smug, the census, how you can manipulate the census by counting illegal

immigrants. So then you can go a layer deeper. And I go, well, are they ideologically really interested in? Do they believe in the idea of open borders? There's no such thing as a nation state where a citizen, a global citizen of people, humanity, you should be able, do they believe perhaps like Thomas Massey, you know, libertarian, Republican, that you just have free movement of people. I don't know if Massey believes that. It may be unfair, but a lot of libertarians do. A lot of libertarians believe that. So are they open borders? Do they not believe in the preservation of the United States as a culture or even as a nation state? And then there's the layer, I think that is the deepest. I think it's the deepest layer. I think that's what you said, Duncan, if you scratch. A progressive. You scratch a Democrat. You scratch a liberal. You get a Marxist. And I don't think they always rationalize it, right? Because I do think about the proverbial soccer mom in Manhattan Beach, who's looking at this perhaps and going, oh, isn't this terrible? Look at these federal stormtroopers coming after these poor hard workers sitting outside of Home Depot. Is she a Marxist? Does she know she's a Marxist? Or is just empathy always lead her in the direction of Marxism? And the answer, by the way,

unsatisfactorily, will maybe be all of the above. But I try to think, like, what is driving all of this? And I hope, maybe the answer is all of the above, because you guys have already touched on a lot of this. But I just can't figure out how they end up seeing it so differently than I think the majority of Americans. Well, I think that person you're describing will is just being gaslit by these people who are Marxists, who dress themselves up as progressives. I would go back to what Barack Obama said when he was running for president. We need to fundamentally transform America. Okay, what does that mean?

Well, it means you don't believe in the American dream. You don't believe in the idea of America as a country. And they've done everything in the last 25 years to prove that out. I mean, they believe our country is fundamentally broken and must change. And I think they will use a, you know, a Clower Piven strategy to basically overwhelm the system through illegal immigration, through dependence, government to break the idea of America so they can get what they want. I mean, their God is government will. I believe that fundamentally. Yeah, no question about it. I do think that there's a couple of cats. I mean, look, this immigration, illegal immigration, border policy, all this

gets super complicated. I mean, we've boiled it down. I think Trump is really successfully boiled it down to a point where it's a binary choice for most Americans. And they're like, we want illegal immigration to end. We want people out. I think for the person that you're describing, It's sort of like maybe a 2008 version or like a George W. Bush version of a center-right voter, somebody who wants a secure border, right? They do believe in America. They do believe in security. And they certainly don't want 20 million people coming across the border. But they, like you, have got relationships with illegal immigrants in their community. They know people to be hardworking. And they kind of like, just want to not deal with that. That's why you saw a whole era of immigration policy come out of both the right and the left that was like, hey, let's build a wall, secure the border, put all the resources there, and then let's do what they called a pathway to citizenship, which many of us thought was blanket amnesty. And that is, in fact, what it would have been

and it never passed as a result of that. But I think that's the third category that you're getting into, right? You mean, you've got the hardcore, liberal, progressive Marxist, unquestionably. But that third category of person is someone like, Holmes, do you think that's, is that Gavin Newsom? No, he's that hardcore? Or is he just the sheer pull? He's a Marxist. Do you think he's a Marxist or is he a craven politician? Well, I think that's, that goes along with the Marxism. They can't ever say that they're a Marxist. You can't even be elected in California if you're going to say that you're a Marxist, but look at the policy that comes. out. It's not just dealing with immigration. It's dealing with environment.

I mean, look at the things that they've tried to do to outlaw gas-powered cars, right? Slapping taxes on literally anything that's made that they don't feel like is in the best interest. And it's all top-down government-run Marxist-like societal vision that he has had from the very beginning. Now, if he has Steve Bannon on his show and he's like, oh, you make good points, that's the politically craven part that you're referring to. Because he doesn't think he makes good points. Every time he's had any hand on power whatsoever, it's off the left-hand side of the map. That's the thing also, I think for political expediency, he wants people to a certain extent to think he's just like some kind of a hymbo that he's like, oh, you know, I'm not actually like an ideologue guys. You know, if these real estate investors, if you donate to me, I might be able to do some policy for you or whatever.

But like Holmes points out, every time he's a lot of choice, he goes off the left end because he is. is an actual lunatic, not just a megalomaniac and a nihilist, but he's an actual left-wing lunatic, all of the above. And we know what happened the last time we were tricked into, America was tricked into supporting a guy who was supposed to be a moderate, Joe Biden, he's president, 20 million illegals come in, and it's not just Guatemalans looking for jobs at Home Depot. You got guys from Tajikistan and Uzbekistan and Chinese nationals

who are all of a sudden coming across the southern border. And it's not like they just opened up Chinatown in Mexico City, And they were like, oh, well, I really need to go to America. They were flying directly from China to Mexico to walk into this country unabated by a Democrat who was in charge and didn't care about our security. Yeah, they're not hanging out at Home Depot. Exactly. They're not. I mean, this is the one, this is the part of the Biden immigration regime that was, in my own opinion, the absolute worst because we have people in this country of a fighting age who were raised in Tajikistan or some other.

country to hate America and they just walked across the border and poof never to be heard from again. I'm telling you, we're going to hear from all of those guys at some point in the next few years. You brought up China and how many Chinese are immigrating to Mexico then subsequently walking across southern border. We got some stunning numbers for you to share with you in just a moment here on the Wilcane show. Before you guys go, Secretary of Defense, Pete Heggseth is right now sitting before Congress, ostensibly be talking about the budget. Of course, he's being asked about Marines being deployed to Los Angeles. Here he is with Congresswoman Betty McCollum.

Mr. Secretary, we're both from Minnesota. I was in the Twin Cities during the riots that followed the murder of George Floyd. Tens of thousands of protesters took to the streets for days. Governor Walls made the decision to call up the Minnesota National Guard. At no point did we need the citizens of Minnesota, that the Marines be deployed. Our state and local law enforcement, along with our National Guard, who have worked on crowd control, they were more than enough, they were more than capable of handling this situation.

History has proven that law enforcement and the National Guard are more than capable of handling situations more volatile than what happened this weekend. Well, Congressman, thank you for the question. You are right. We are both originally from Minnesota, which is why I recall 20 20 quite well when Governor Walsh abandoned a police precinct and allowed it to be burned to the ground. And also allowed five days of chaos to occur inside the streets of Minneapolis. There you go. Your reaction before you guys run.

Well, listen, I too from him from Minnesota. And I got like hundreds of friends in Minnesota. That's not their memory, Betty McCollum. These are the guys that were like literally locking and loading. They thought that they were going to have to protect their own homes because the state of Minnesota wasn't going to do it for them. And that is a completely misconstrued history that I think that Donald Trump has learned from. I think the federal government writ large Pete Hagsteth has learned from, and they're not going to handle it in the same way they did 2020. Good for them. And I'd say the American people learned that lesson too because they put Donald Trump back in the Oval Office. Holmes, you're from Minnesota?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Smug, where are you from? I was born in Denver, but I grew up in North Carolina. I'm the only non-beltway guy here. Oh, excuse me. This is okay. Okay, so Duncan. Indiana. So Duncan, that's you're from what? Maryland, Virginia.

Indiana. Northern Virginia. Indianapolis. This is why we get along. The other guys from Cincinnati. I mean, we're all, none of us, we're all kind of like Midwestern dudes at some point. And, yeah, I guess we just see the world a little differently than a lot of people here. All right. Where are you from, Ashbrook? I'm from Cincinnati.

Cincinnati, Ohio. There we go. Okay, yeah. A bunch of Midwestern guys. That's good. They're not all Beltway guys, see? That's just what Smug says. All right.

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having me. Glad to have you. I want you to listen with me, if you wouldn't mind here to a couple of different portrayals of what's going on in Los Angeles. First of all, this is an ABC 7 anchor describing what was happening in Los Angeles. Large group of people. It could turn very volatile if you move law enforcement in there in the wrong way and turn what is just a bunch of people having fun watching Cars burn into a massive confrontation and altercation between officers. and demonstrators. The script writers are phenomenal. Watching Cars burn.

That's great, right, Bradley? I don't know if I've ever had fun watching Carsburn. Listen, I know that we're prone to having this happen every once in a while when the Lakers win a championship back in my home state of California. But this is next level stuff. And you just can't make it up. The script writers are doing an amazing job. Yeah, it's all.

But you see, now, it was all fine. until the Fed showed up. That's according to a CNN anchor. Listen. We are having an administration that's targeting peaceful protests, people that are there to protest. The president is sending the National Guard because he doesn't like the scenes. He doesn't like the scenes of people peacefully protesting. There's the go. See, the problem is enforcing the law, really, honestly, Bradley. Just stop enforcing the law. Then everything will be fine, Bradley.

Yeah, the great irony of all this is, everybody likes to talk about this from their ivory towers. I remember day one of these riots, CNN had on an Ivy League professor who's living in Jamestown, Rhode Island. So I looked up, who exactly lives in Jamestown, Rhode Island? Well, it's in Newport County. It is of Gilded Age fame. It is 80% white and less than 5% Latino.

And so you do a little bit of maths there based on what we know about the illegal immigrant population across the country. And you come up with less than 1,000 illegal migrants live in the entire county of Newport, Rhode Island. And so these are people who are completely insulated from the massive amounts of disruption that illegal migration causes. I'm from Orange County, California, grew up there, went to school in Northern California. And the way that the demographics have shifted in these communities over time, it has created massive problems. Compton, for example, is no longer majority black. It is majority Latino now.

And local, even gang members have been potentially coordinating with law enforcement, talking to law enforcement about how the cartels have moved into these communities. And so when you have the bloods and the crips working with law enforcement against the cartels, maybe that should tell you this is a pretty bad situation. But of course, CNN is insulated from it. I just had a conversation with the guys from the Ruthless Variety Program talking about what is sort of the motivation here? Like, is this just open borders?

Is it craven politics? A miscalculation thinking Latino owners would gravitate to the dims, which is polling shown not to be true. Or is it Marxism? Well, we have some evidence at least in part of that that's actually the case. So Karen Bass is the mayor of Los Angeles. Here's a headline from the Atlantic. When Karen Bass went to work in Castro's Cuba, the quote inside says,

She's also the only person on Biden's list when he was considering her for an appointment who spent part of the 1970s working construction in Fidel Castro's Cuba with the Vinceremos Brigade, a group that has organized annual trips to Cuba for young leftists for half a century. This Vinceremos Brigade apparently is a whatever democratic socialist, Marxist organization. And that's who Karen Bass is. That's her past. I think that seems Marxist. Yeah, the Venceramus Brigade translated into English means we will win. And it was in contradiction to the policy pursued by the U.S. government vis-à-vis Cuba and the Vietnam War. And with the embargo on Cuba in place since 1963, I mean, they are really operating or were operating in a gray area, potentially providing material aid to this communist regime.

in Cuba, when U.S. policymakers were trying to prevent any sort of strong Cuba from aligning with our enemies in our own hemisphere, trying to return to the Monroe Doctrine, right? And so it's fascinating to see, though, I think Victor Davis-Hanson put it really well in a conversation I just had with him on my show, where he said, it's this consortium of interests across the left. I know we talk about the broad coalition that the right now has in the United States, but the left has this weird broad coalition too, and it involves these superstar billionaires and celebrity class that would just prefer that their Uber Eads be delivered on time, and they don't really care about the migration status of the person who drops off the nobu at the front door.

And at the same time, you have the tried and true, true believers who do not believe in the justness of the existence of the United States at all and want to see the entire system toppled and overthrown. That's kind of your neo-Marxist types. And then, of course, there are your Democratic mainstays who believe that this is much more a play of Realpolitik that says, if we let immigrants into our communities, illegals into our communities, they will be counted by the census, and our political representation in Washington will be inflated. And so it's all these interests, and I think you can see it in Karen Bass's own life, where she grows up as kind of this young radical. She now is a mainstay Democratic politician, says that

that she's not a communist, she never was a communist, and that she's kind of leaning into this more realpolitik or this, you know, you could say, neoliberal economic vision of migration. And she kind of finds herself in the middle of all these polls that pulled the Democratic Party in different directions. So the other night, Bradley, I was at a soccer field

talking to a guy from Mexico. And it occurred to me, look, nobody on earth really handles illegal immigration. the way we're being asked to handle it here in the United States. Rogan O'Hanley, D.C. Drano said this, well, what would happen if I went to Mexico? I started throwing rocks at cops, burning vehicles, waving the American flag. How would I be treated, also immigrating there illegally? How would I be treated by the government of Mexico?

And would I be able to yell fascist when they came to get me? Of course, the answer to that is no. But I asked this guy from Mexico, I said, like, what is illegal immigration like in Mexico? and he immediately brought up Chinese. I was like, really? Yeah, Chinese. And so I sent my staff on this. I was curious to look into it. And we'll do this today on the Fox News Channel

and the Wilcane show. And I think we're going to be one of the few that are talking about this. This is from the Interior Ministry of Mexico. Chinese migration to Mexico is up 42,000 percent of the past five years. In 2019, there were 33 Chinese nationals detained illegally

entering Mexico. By 23, that number was 14,000 Chinese nationals. In 2024, it was over 11,000 Chinese nationals entering Mexico illegally. And there's articles to go on to explain it is facilitated by organized crime. Not that they're all

precursor fentanyl makers, not every one of these Chinese. There are, of course, people setting up shops and food and whatever in Mexico City. But this is right next door to us. You know, and we hear about Chinese coming over the southern border to the United States as well. And China's involvement in the Western Hemisphere is pretty eye-opening in and of itself. The way they invest in ports and airports everywhere across Central and South America.

And here you also have a spike of 42,000 percent of Chinese migrants to Mexico. Yeah, it's really fascinating. And I've been trying to figure out exactly what this means for the Chinese regime. because the Chinese regime is so good at extending its tentacles around the world. We've been talking about Belt and Road for a long time. Well, all of a sudden, Belt and Road went across the ocean and started setting up shop in a lot of these Latin and Central American countries, trying to buy the influence, essentially, of these governments,

making promises that they can help Mexico, for example, gain territorial control over some of the regions that they don't have territorial control because of the cartel activity. And that's the type of promise that China likes to make. We look at the Panama Canal and why that's been such a flashpoint for this administration that we haven't heard about it in the past few months. Chinese ships, Chinese signs, Chinese flags everywhere. And so I don't know if it's about a Chinese regime that isn't as strong as it says

or if this is kind of a staging ground because we see what happens when these folks go north. I just had a conversation with Ashley Hinson that will be out on Thursday, representative from Iowa. And she's talking about how she's caught people in her home district stealing seeds that Iowa farmers use to bring them back to China to steal their IP. She talks about those secret police facilities that we've uncovered in New York City, for example, where Chinese operatives are operating there trying to get information out of Western Hemisphere countries. And I fear that that's the direction all of these Latin American countries are going to go if they continue to have these relationships with the Chinese Communist Party. well and we know the story of the agro-terrorism up in michigan of of chinese nationals bringing in some fungus that destroys wheat and and local crops but i i know what you mean like on one hand this is a sign of weakness for the for the chinese communist party if people are fleeing their

economic system if it's not growing or it's even declining in the way that's promised and they're thinking their prospects are better in mexico that's a bad sign for the ccp but if on the other hand it's expansionist tentacles of the CCP, and there's plenty of evidence to suggest that is true as well, they have an increasing growing influence over the Western Hemisphere. I mean, these countries like Mexico, Central America, South America, they're dependent upon China for infrastructure investment and advancement for progress. And then what is the chip that China calls in at some point with this influence? Right. And I want to return to something what you said, I think is really important. Because the broad numbers are so large, it can be both

at the same time. As you said, not everybody is a Chinese operative. Some people are just setting up shops in Mexico City. You see kind of a darker version of this. Again, another story from California, a darker version of this with all of these birthing centers where people from China will pay to come into the United States to give birth. And what does their child get if they have birth in the United States? Well, they get U.S. citizenship. That's what they get. That's massive. And so that's why you have this kind of incentive to come over to the United States to do that because there is something more stable about the U.S. regime inherently than the Chinese Communist Party system. The chip that they call in, I think, is if the United States ever came to blows with China over Taiwan or the first island chain or the second island chain, something in the Pacific theater.

Well, I think China would put pressure on all of these various client states of theirs. I don't think that these states are fully bought and paid for by the Chinese yet. They could be heading in that direction if U.S. policymakers don't act prudently. But what they could call in is trying to economically isolate the United States in its own hemisphere. Hey, Panamanians. Yep, canal shut down. Sorry, no if-ans or butts about it. And that extends to what control they can exert over the Germans or the European energy supply.

Hey, you want to continue working with the Chinese government. You want your markets to be open to the Chinese. Now you're going to be faced with a choice between U.S. energy and U.S. consumer markets or the Chinese consumer markets. Where do you think the Germans will end up on that question? I think that's still an open question, shockingly, despite all that we've done for that country. And so that, I think, are the chips that they would call in if things ever. came to blows between China and the United States. I pray to God that they don't. Yeah. No, it's absolutely influenced. I mean, again, if we ever come to blows with China. Okay, finally,

I want to ask you about this, Bradley, RFK Jr. has ousted the entire CDC vaccine advisory committee. This is physicians and public health groups who have criticized the move. 17 members of the advisory committee on immunization practices. Kennedy has dismissed. them all. He wrote in the Wall Street Journal. Without removing the current members, the current Trump administration would not have been able to appoint a majority of new members until 2028. A clean sweep is needed to reestablish public confidence in vaccine science, Bradley. I think Secretary Kennedy is exactly right about this. Well, you and I have been doing this for quite some time. If we said something or we wrote something and then fans,

listeners reached out and said, hey, you know, I have some questions about this. This is either interesting or I don't quite track your logic here, would we respond and say, nope, verboten, you cannot ask me any questions about this or my recommendations or my record here. It just shut down the conversation completely. Well, that's exactly what these people did vis-a-vis COVID. We were promised from the beginning of the vaccine effort that this was going to eradicate the coronavirus disease. And then all of a sudden, the goalpost shifted. Well, it's not going to eradicate it, but you'll be inoculated. And then all of a sudden, some of these strange, and I don't fully understand the science here,

all of these strange kind of coincidences or side effects started taking place. People talking about vaccine injured, myocarditis, et cetera, et cetera. Every single time you tried to ask these people a direct question about it, they would say, no, you're the one undermining public trust. No, no, we can't have that conversation. We refuse to have it with you. And that is not the mentality of science. That's not the mentality of a proper public stewards.

So on both counts, on the scientific count, that focuses on inquiry and investigation and continual trial and error, and on the public trust front, on the civic duty front, where you are in a position of power, you have not been elected. And because you have not been elected, you need to make sure that you are communicating clearly with the people and the people's representatives. They failed on both of those counts, and it's right for Secretary Kennedy to clean house. totally agree totally agree need a clean slate there at the cdc all right bradley devon you can check him out he referenced several of his conversations you can hear as the host of the signal sit down he's a politics editor at the daily signal and we love having you on the show today thank you bradley this is a blast thanks well all right simone biles just posted on x in fact she just posted an apology for everything that's gone down with riley gains that next

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Here's what Simone Biles just posted today. I want to follow up from my latest tweets. I've always believed competitive equity and inclusivity are both essential and sport. The current system does not adequately balance these important principles, which often leads to frustration and heated exchanges, and it didn't help for me to get personal with Riley,

which I apologize for, of course. went after Riley Gaines for defending women's sports keeping men out of women's sports she called her truly sick but today she writes these are sensitive complicated issues that I truly don't have the answers or solutions to

but I believe it starts with empathy and respect I was not advocating for policies that compromise fairness in women's sports my objection is to be singling out children for public scrutiny in ways that feel personal and harmful individual athletes especially kids should never be the

focus of criticism of a flawed system, they have no control over. I believe sports organizations have a responsibility to come up with rules, supporting inclusion, while maintaining fair competition. We all want a future for sport that is fair, inclusive, and respectful. X-O-X-O-Simon. What do you think, two of days? What do you think, Tim Foyle? I don't know. That seems like to me, nothing. That's what that is. I just got hammered in the comment section. We actually have audio from her apology. Yeah, I think that is, please stop being mean to me on TikTok. Please stop being mean to me on X.

Nobody liked your position because she championed a 10% proposition position. And she also didn't say anything. I mean, here's the bottom line, Simone. You can't. You simply can't. You can't come up with a sports organization of rules that satisfy your definition of inclusion while maintaining fair competition. You can't.

You can't if that includes men being included in women's sports. Your objection is to singling out children for public scrutiny, but those children are choosing to participate in their parents, to participate in a category that does not and should not and will not include them neither biologically or objectively, not in the real world. And so, if Riley Gaines posts, what was it, a Minnesota team that won a softball champion, who had a male on the team. Is that the fault of Riley Gaines?

Or is that the fault of the male choosing to play with females? And the parents of the male choosing to play females. And yes, the sports governing bodies who don't keep them out from playing with the females. You want to seem empathetic and inclusive, right? Catchphrases. You want to seem like, hey, I'm fair-minded, but you can't when that in itself implodes the entire enterprise.

wait and that's something to think about in general Bill Marsh famous said what about when you have to tolerate intolerance you know I mean that's a deeper conversation we've been having for example with Gadsad when it comes to fundamental Islamist thoughts coexisting in a Western civilization

men participating in women's sports it's pretty cut and dry it's pretty simple and by the way it's pretty common sense for most people in America you don't have to gravitate around buzzwords like inclusivity and equity to just come down on the right of what is right. Yeah, I don't see it here for Simone Biles. Hey, two days in tinfoil.

Okay, so we finally have it. We have a house settlement for the NCAA. It's three parts. I believe is it $2.8 billion in settlement. Riley Gaines told me yesterday, she got an email or a letter from the NCAA saying, here's your several thousand dollars for past, you know, what you should have earned in NIL while you were there.

Yeah, I mean, there's athletes getting checks all over the place, NCAA athletes. Yeah, but that's for the past. For the future, second part, 20.5 million dollar salary cap for each school. Let's talk about that one for just a second. There are reports, and the University of Texas, for example, has denied this that they already have like a $35, $40 million budget that they're spending. on football, I believe. They said, no, that's not true.

Texas Tech is blowing it out. There's articles written about this. They were just in the women's college world series finals. They paid a million dollars to their stud pitcher. They got the number one transfer class in football. Ohio State has a huge budget. So I'll be fascinating to see how this shakes out with those schools that are already spending more than $20.5 million.

What are they going to do? I don't know the answer to this if there's like a phase-in period. where you have to scale back or down, you don't have to spend the 20, but you can't spend more than 20. And I don't know how that's going to work. I mean, I don't know how colleges are going to do that. And I bet you I'd put the over under

at a dozen colleges that already spend more than $20 million a year on football. When you guys think that? Absolutely. I would put a little more. Well, this is in compensation to the players. And that's a coach's salary. You know what I'm saying?

This is direct compensation. Yeah. Right. This is direct compensation, Patrick. Right. Yeah. Okay, well, that's a good point. That takes us to the third component, which is NIL.

Yes. They're going to put a third-party vetting mechanism into NIL to try to make sure these are legitimate marketing deals. I said this from day one. NIL will just be a workaround for paying players directly. Like, I mean, is that a really marketing? rate deal for you to, I don't know, put your name on something at the local car dealership and get a Lamborghini?

Or any number of... What's that? Like Nike or New Balance, like Cooper Flagg making $28 million. You know, I think endorsements are okay. Yeah, that's what NIL should be for. You sent that to us the other day. Yeah. So Flagg made $28 million his freshman year at Duke.

But that wasn't from the school. That was everything. Everything included. Why leave? by the way, which is insane. Right. NBA salaries are still pretty good. I don't know what he'll get as an NBA pro in endorsements,

but his salary will be less than that. Yeah. And that's the way to think of this. It's like every player will get essentially a salary from the college, but then they're also capable of establishing marketing deals. You're going to try to be more. You're a college athlete. Strict on the marketing deal.

But the $20 million salary cap, Here's what's also messed up about this. So get ready. Okay, so football brings in, what do we think? 90% on average of revenue. Basketball, men's basketball, will give it 10%. And everything else running in the red, everything else does not make money to the university.

So do you give the entire $20 million to the football team? I mean, some schools will say we're a basketball school, so we're going to give more to basketball. You're going to split it up evenly? The swimmer's going to get money. the tennis players, the baseball players, how much? We did hear reports. We had an interview on this show that said most schools will gravitate

towards 75% of the revenue going to football players. But you could argue a football player is like, that's not enough. I don't. No. We bring in more than that. So what's to keep the football team and football players from suing? Like, I don't know what you, I don't know what the suit is,

but anti-competitive practices. same suit that they did that they just filed just now and then wait for title nine they're in a single woman sport that's a revenue generator i have that's why i was wondering about riley i have a breakdown when you want so like i did have a question about riley riley two days right check yeah well when the women don't get half the revenue they will sue for half the revenue i mean that suit is going to come And then we're going to get in a fight and have a big debate like we've always had about who's generating the revenue, therefore who should get the revenue. I don't know how this thing holds up.

There'll just be more lawsuits. Go ahead, two days. Across all college sports, this is revenue by sports. So football is about 58 to 65% of all total revenue. Then you have men's college basketball, 15 to 20%, then women's college basketball, 3% to 5% baseball on down. Okay. I'm surprised. Same.

It's only 60% for football. I'm surprised. 58 to 65, yeah. And by the way, that's revenue. So revenue is a gross revenue figure it's usually not how much you actually make. In other words, net revenue, which you spend to keep that sport going, exceeds revenues. And I believe every sport outside of football and men's basketball. I believe every other sport, including baseball,

all the women's sports are revenue losses to the university. They're subsidized by the football team. So, yeah, I don't, I know we've had this conversation. I think the lawsuits are coming and how this thing will probably unravel, but I think more interestingly is what happens in the short term to the, maybe you're right, two days, maybe you're right, it's more than a dozen, but the schools are already spending more than $20 million a year. on football like how can they sustain that i mean what happens in five years how does the landscape

look of even college football i mean you have to change something at some point if it keeps going this way this feels like a thing like somebody you know in the name of justice everybody rallied behind this right and they pulled the string and the string never stopped unraveling And it's, I don't see how it ever stops. And what, what are you left with at the end, just a pile, a random pile string? Like, what is college sports at the end of this? The truth is, it is a separation between football and all other sports.

Yeah. It has to be. It has to be. It's the only one that can operate on a true capitalist market. And they want to now. And they've sued to. And so everything else has to face this constant. of not being subsidized and probably face their own death in a lot of situations, meaning

these programs die at the collegiate level. And then, by the way, then keep pulling the string. What does that mean for the U.S. and Olympic development? Because our college athletes are our Olympic team. That's where we develop them. And we pulled that string. No one knew where the unintended consequences would go of what we end up with. Still don't.

Still don't know where it's headed. All right, that's going to do it for us today here on the Will Cane Show. We appreciate you hanging out with us. We're going to be back again tomorrow. Same time, same place. Make sure you set a reminder at YouTube and Facebook. Subscribe on Apple or Spotify. We'll see you again next time.

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