Will Cain Country - Leftist Calls America The "Bad Guys" Just In Time For July 4th (ft. Tomi Lahren)

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

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One, happy 4th of July. We're the bad guys. The international community should consider placing sanctions on the United States of America. So says a law professor and contributor to MSNBC. So as I said, happy 4th of July with the host of Tommy Lerrin is fearless, Tommy Lairn. two what does it feel like to get old also i had a knockdown drag out yesterday with a former state department spokesperson under joe biden did i let him walk all over me or do i hold his feet to the fire we break down the tape three is archmanning the best college quarterback since tim tibo

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But was I weak? Did I let him walk all over me? Or did I hold his feet to the fire? You have given your verdict. We're going to review that a little bit later coming up here on Wilcane Country. But let's get into it with story number one. Tommy Laren is the host of Tommy Laren is Fearless at Outkick at Fox News.com. On the YouTube, she has a huge show, gaining in audience, growing. in numbers, and we always love having here on what is now, Will Kane Country. Welcome in, by the way, to the newly named Will Kane Country, Tommy. I love it. I love the title. I love the name of the show. I love that you're in Dallas, Texas, which is a great city and a great state, not as great as Nashville, Tennessee, but you're working on it well, and I'm glad that you're in the heartland. Is it, though? I unfortunately had to go to a funeral on Monday, and one of the people came up to me and said,

Heartland, Will, are we the heartland in Texas? And I think it's fair. It's fair. Like, the heartland is where you're from, not where you are now, Tom. You're like, if we had to draw a circle around what is the heartland, it would be the Dakotas and Kansas and Nebraska, probably Iowa. I think it probably would extend down to some extent into Oklahoma, but I don't think it comes as far south as Texas. Like, who really? gets to claim the heartland. You're right. I think the heartland is more of an idea, right? It's more of what your city or your state, the values and the ideals that the people there predominantly hold. So I would

still consider Texas to be part of the heartland, the heartbeat of America, but yes, I do have to say that when we're talking about the geographical heartland, the Dakotas, I'm happy that you gave it up to God's country there. The Dakotas definitely are the heartland. But we love Texas, we love Tennessee, and I think that we can still consider them part of the heartbeat of America. We're all welcome there. I want to ask you more in just a moment about the heartland. I actually want to ask you something that piques my curiosity in just a moment about South Dakota. But let's get it started with Ellie Mistle, who was speaking to Joy Reed, Tommy. Ellie Mistle is a frequent guest on MSNBC.

He is a law professor, I believe, at least formerly, at an Ivy League college. The point is, not just some random radical given a microphone, but somebody who has participated in shaping young minds. And here's what he had to say, as we approach the July 4th holiday. Here's what he had to say about America. I don't say this lightly, but our country needs to be sanctioned. we are the bad guys on the world stage. We are a menace to not only free people everywhere, but we are a menace to peaceful people everywhere at this point.

And I'm not even going to say that we've only been a menace for the past three or four months, right? Like, when does the international community decide that enough is enough? I know we're rich. I know we've got a lot of money. I know that people want to buy things from our country because we're rich or want to sell things to our country because we're. rich but at some point the international community has to stand up to us because we are a bad guy

on the world stage right and so we should be sanctioned we are the bad guy on the world stage and we should be sanctioned we america Tommy well why is he here I mean that would be I guess my overarching question he hates this country it's racist it's oppressive it's a bad actor on the world stage. It's the international community should sanction us. Why doesn't he go become a part of the wider international community? It's funny. All of these people that hate America refuse to leave America. It's very simple. If this country is so bad, leave it, right? I obviously give California a lot of crap. I left California. If I were still sitting in California, dumping on California, I would be a hypocrite. I left California, right? But these people,

they dump on the entire country. There's not a single place in this country, even the places that vote for Democratic Socialists, not even those places are acceptable to people like that. But, well, I think they say these things because they got to get attention. Because if he were sounding even mildly sane, no one would be paying attention, you wouldn't be playing a clip of him. Same thing with Joy Reed, who called Alligator Alcatra as a concentration camp for brown people. They have to say these things because while they might get a certain spot or soundbite

here and there on MSNBC, by and large, they just rely on podcasts. or digital, which you and I both love, but they have to say crazy things in order to be talked about. I think that's more what this is about. Also, they hate America, but probably more so for attention. Okay, I think that's interesting. I think you're probably right. We live in an attention economy, and the intention economy requires people to do outlandish things in order to get attention. However, I do think, at least to some extent, he believes what he says. Now, the question is whether or not he's a hypocrite or he's truly a fraud, because if he believed what he said to your point, he would leave America. If it is so bad,

you would find someplace that isn't so bad to lay your head at night. But I do think there is this general antipathy towards Western civilization, and I don't want to limit it to America because you'll hear and see similar things across Europe. And I do find it fascinating that no one chooses to leave Western civilization. In fact, I always love the thought experiment that if you took down all international borders and allowed people to freely move where they would like, where do you see a net influx, where do you see a net outflow? And it's obviously true.

It's happening that you see a net inflow in Europe. People from the Middle East and from Africa are moving to France and to Germany. And of course, people from all over the world try to get into the United States, which speaks for itself when you say, why would everyone flock to something that is so bad? So they end up sounding like, and maybe this is what they truly are, this is the stereotype, the wife who says she loves her husband wants to change everything about him. At some point, do you love your husband? And I think it's a worthy question to them. Why are you here? Do you just want to change everything about America?

do you not have any place else on earth that lives out your fantasies that you wouldn't have to struggle so hard to change that is your vision of utopia or even just better than this awful place that is the bad guy America I'd also point out that the few celebrities that actually have left America as they promised to do you got your ellen degenerous your rosy and maybe a couple others not many actually follow through but where do they go will are they going to Africa Are they going to the Middle East? No, they sure are not. They're going to Europe. They're going to Europe. They're going to Ireland. They're going to the U.K.

They're going to, of course, Western civilization. So even when they flee here, they go to maybe the second best option. And then they still complain about the U.S. when they're there. So it's obvious to me that they don't actually believe this country is horrible. They don't actually believe that European countries are horrible. But still, they want us to be more like the third world here. So it's almost like they leave it or they hate it, but they want it to look completely different. But not for the better, for the worse.

It's like, let's just destroy it. And I think that's the same thing with Mamdani. I don't think he actually thinks that socialism and communism is going to make New York City better. I think he knows it'll destroy New York City. And I think that's the point. I think some of these people truly hate this country and they want to see it fail. And maybe that's the bigger problem. Zoran Mamdani, the current Democratic candidate for mayor in New York City, who's becoming the new flag bearer for the left, becoming the new flag bearer, in fact, for a political party, Democrats.

Okay, let's keep going with this, with this new research that came out, Tommy. It's not surprising in that we've started to see this trend over a period of months and years, but over the past month, we've seen this particular poll come out. We'll flash it up on the screen that shows the divide between genders, between men and women. And this shows South Korea, the United States, Germany, and the UK, and their political leaders. The title is A Wide Ideology Gap is opening up between young men and women in countries across the world. Now, in the United States, young men have gained significantly going from plus 20 to

the right to plus 40 to the right. Meanwhile, young women have dropped from plus 10 to zero between right and left. So about a 40-point gap between men. and women in the United States, less pronounced in Germany, but still a divide. German women, young women, something like plus two, three, four, five for the left, young men plus close to 30 to the right. In the UK, both seem to lean towards the right, but there is about a 20-point gap between young men and young women.

And just for curiosity, it's flipped totally in South Korea. young women plus 20 to the right young men off the charts like 40 to the left there's a lot to dig into there about what's happening between young men and young women the least of which by the way because it's furthest away from home is what is happening in south korea but the rest of the western world you see this huge divide between young men and young women yeah i have a lot of thoughts as to why that is but i think that the easiest one to point to and discuss is our education system and specifically higher education. You see women, which is great, you know, going to college, sometimes surpassing men with their attendance and their completion of college, at least in the last 10 years.

And that's great, right? But when you look at the institutions that they're going to, especially if they are the Ivy League, especially if they're in the Northeast or in California, they're teaching these people to hate America. They're teaching these people to hate patriotism and all the conservative ideals. So it really doesn't surprise me that you see

lot of young women trending more towards the left. Where did they go to school? I think that has a lot to do with it because these institutions are pumping out activists and a lot of them tend to be white liberal women activists or white liberal men who think they're women. I mean, same thing, I guess. And I think that that's a big part of this cultural trend. Well, you and I, I don't know that either of us have the answer, but we need to figure out what's happening in South Korea because it's the exact opposite. How are young women ending up more conservative and young men incredibly liberal?

Okay, I want to see what you think about this. I think it's self-evidently true. You defy really honestly the odds on this because as long as I've known you and known of you, you've been conservative. But I think a real shift happens with women often when they get married. We see that they move from less liberal

to more conservative. through the institution of marriage. But as I mentioned, you were openly conservative before that stage of your life. So what I wonder is, as you point out, it is like the college-educated white liberal woman becomes the ideological North Pole, North Star, for the left. And I think it's interesting as to why, Tommy.

And I think it of, you point to indoctrination and education. I also think, look, I think, are gender roles that are important in a relationship and in a society. And men sometimes tend to be hyper rational, hyper logical, less empathetic. Women see things often more through the lens of empathy. And society needs both, by the way. You have to have both because, and we're speaking in generalities here, men can sometimes not offer up easily empathy or see themselves in someone else's situation. But if you guide, If empathy is your true guiding light in every scenario, you're incoherent, right?

It's just whatever feels good, whatever is nice, you know, unintended consequences, long-term effects are ignored, cohesive thoughts, smashed together in incoherence. You know, so I think part of it is just simply the way we see the world and women hyper-index here with empathy, which pulls them hard to the left. Yeah. Well, I have a lot of thoughts on this. we probably don't have time to get into, but for me, the way that I look at this and way that I approach this is by actually talking to women who consider themselves to be

liberal. I know that's like a crazy thought. Like, let's ask the liberal women why they're liberal. And, you know, I'm not necessarily out there talking to the very, very liberal ones that are, you know, the Queers for Palestine or, you know, the Eat the Rich or the, you know, abortion is health care. I'm not talking about those liberal women. I'm talking about liberal women that I know and consider friends. And I ask them maybe why they consider themselves a Democrat or a liberal. And what I hear most often is that they actually have fiscal conservative principles and they love their country and they want a secure border. I'll tell you what turns them off. And this is me saying it on behalf of them and what they have told me. It's that they

feel like to be considered a conservative, at least in today's construct or what they're hearing, is that to be conservative, you have to be a trad wife that thinks that your main role is being a wife and mother, okay? They also think that you have to be very, very, very, very pro-life, and that beyond that you probably don't believe in, you know, gay marriage or same-sex marriage. And that's what turns them away from being a conservative. And they are conservative fiscally because they believe in capitalism. They also believe in the other tenets of conservatism, as laid out by the mega movement, secure borders, national security. all those things. But it's some of the social issues

where they are not really, really far to the right on that makes them think that they're actually on the left, but they're really not. So maybe it's a messaging issue. I tend to think maybe it is. Well, I think that's really interesting and you just gave us firsthand account and I believe all that to be true,

not just because I trust you, but I have seen and heard that same type of thing. But here's what's interesting. Take that back to the thing I said about marriage. Donald Trump did very well with women in the last election, you know, and so that packaging and that messaging that is hitting home with your friends who are liberal, and by the way, I share your perspective on life. I have friends, not all of whom share my political opinions. I enjoy the conversation. I like understanding. This is why I invite a James Carvel or a Ned price onto the Will Kane Show, which we'll be talking about here in just a moment and how that went

yesterday. I like trying to understand in the same way I want to understand what's happening in South Korea. I want to understand how people end up where they are. But marriage changed. I have two thoughts on what you laid out while accepting that it's true. I think marriage flips a lot of that. So what you describe is often what we hear from single women. The second thing is that person you describe, let's take gender out of it, the fiscally conservative, somewhat socially liberal person is often in the quote-unquote libertarian mold, right? There's a lot of people that say they are fiscally conservative and socially liberal, and then they go, well, I guess I'm a libertarian. I saw this graph, and I'm not going to be able to quote where it's where it came from, Tommy,

but I just saw in the last two days, and it showed quadrants of where people are fiscally and socially, and it plots the entire sort of political dynamic. And the left, by the way, is super down in the corner of, you know, super liberal and they say they want, I believe fiscal, I can't remember if it's fiscal control. The right is more moderate, actually, despite all the public packaging on this, but it is conservative on social issues. But my point is that that quadrant that we often think everybody says how they describe themselves, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, it's fairly empty. There's like not actually many people who vote and behave and live their lives in that way, even though they say it's what reflects how they think or feel. And I promise

you, at Fourth of July this weekend, you and I, whoever we're going to hear it, you're going to counter that, right? Always you do. I'm fiscally conservative, but I'm kind of socially liberal. But are you really? Because I don't know that's playing out. So, I think there's a big difference between being socially liberal and socially moderate. I think that the social moderates are actually where most people in this country live. They are totally fine with gay marriage. They don't care. They believe in the women's right to choose, but to a point, and they believe it should be safe, legal, rare, and they're not celebrating abortion, and they definitely don't believe in late-term abortion, but they believe that that option

should be there. So those people, I think, actually comprise most people in this country, and the data shows us that. So they're not socially liberal. They don't believe in late-term abortions, and they don't believe in transing children, LGBTQIA, everything. They're socially moderate. And I think there's a myth that you're on,

you're either socially liberal or socially conservative. Most people are in the middle day. So I think that's why the data that you mentioned doesn't reflect those people because they are in a moderate place. We'll be right back on Will Cain Country. Following Fox's initial donation to the Kerr County Flood Relief Fund, our generous viewers have answered the call to action

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You listen to your favorite podcast. Welcome back to Will Cain Country. All right, I think that's really good. I think I always have trouble with these words, like moderate and these kind of things because it's like moderate requires that you accept two extremes or two poles, right? If it were a line graph, moderate would always be in the middle and what defines that. But regardless, I think you are actually describing most people. And by the way, two days, Dan pulled up that chart really quickly, Tommy.

I don't know if you have returned, but this is what I did come across. The source is Lee Drutman, New America, by the New York Times. This was in the New York Times. So, okay, it's a graph. At the bottom, left-hand corner would be most socially liberal, more fiscally liberal. So they consider themselves fiscally liberal. I guess that would be command of control, fiscally liberal. More fiscally conservative, that'd be a freer economy, is to the right.

You can see, Tommy, it's empty. The vertical line is social issues in terms of more conservative or not. So you see what I'm saying where the blue dots in the left are super far to the corner on socially liberal, fiscally liberal. That's that word I hate that fiscally liberal because it sounds like free, but it's not. It's command of control where the right plot graph is high on social conservatism and actually not that far on fiscally conservative. It's very moderate. It leans a little to the right on that. So that's what I'm referencing there, Tommy.

Yeah, I think it's very interesting. I would also say, though, that part of the problem, I don't, the liberals got a lot of problems, right? The Democrats got a lot of problems. I could sit here and we could talk about it, and we'd agree on a lot of them. If I'm actually sitting here, though, from my perspective as a millennial conservative,

and I were diagnosing maybe some of the hurdles that the conservative movement's going to have to tackle in the next five years, I would say reaching out to the social moderates is probably one of them. And President Trump is the best example of that because President Trump, unlike a lot of Republican candidates that we've had in the last 20 years, he is not necessarily socially conservative. Yes, he talked about abortion, but he doesn't really want to, by the way. He was kind of dragged into that conversation. He didn't talk out and say anything about marriage should be between a man and a woman.

No, he didn't. To my knowledge, he never has. So he was a complete game changer when it came to capturing social moderates' fiscal conservatives. That, to me, is the mega movement. It is not focused on social issues. It's focused on the border and national security and capitalism and the economy,

and that is where the conservative movement should go. But unfortunately, some people think the conservative movement is more of a Mike Pence. Well, how much the conservative is really like Mike Pence right now? not much I think the big takeaway for me on that graph is that nobody comes in the quadrant

of what we talked about fiscally conservative socially liberal the self-described every man libertarian really quickly I want to go over to the comments Tommy some folks are saying over here Justin Fitch says to dismiss the notion

the United States isn't a villain is to dismiss U.S. foreign policy for the past several decades you know, I totally reject this concept. It's not that we're always right, but there is a strain of thought, certainly on the left, and increasingly on the quote-unquote new right that we're a bad guy. I don't believe in good guys and bad guys. I believe that countries act in their own self-interest.

Vladimir Putin acts in his own self-interest. It's not a moral equation for him, right? You can say he's immoral. That's fine, and I may agree with you. but stop thinking of the simplistic terms of good guy and bad guy. Same thing with Iran for that matter. And the United States should behave by the same token. We should be asking ourselves, is it serve our interests?

What's the point in a nation state otherwise to elect representatives that serve our interest, a.k.a. by the way, America first. Mike Bailey says, no, Democrats are villains. Okay. and through hell and back says all the people who hate America can leave USA USA Wendell Williams says Mad dummy wake up called for New York I think that's a reference to Mom Donnie

Mad Dummy instead of mom dummy Okay there's one of the thing here Tommy on this liberal conservative thing There is a I think a non-unfounded fear among conservatives. conservatives right now, that social liberalism when embraced, and you're right, by the way, I think gay marriage probably has pretty high approval rating even on the right, but that we entered at that stage the slippery slope of insanity, and it didn't have a break on that train, and it ended up with, for example, Will Thomas swimming at the University of Pennsylvania and smoking women. Now, is that a straight-through line? Are there not stop signs on that road? Of course

there are. But society didn't seem to see any for about a, it only took seven years or so. seven or eight years. And now the University of Pennsylvania has wiped Leah Thomas's records from the book, reinstated the rightful record holders, the females at the University of Pennsylvania. And it's at least a half-hearted partial win. It's great for those girls. And I took time yesterday to put their names and pictures up on the show because they should be celebrated. They missed their day in the sun. But you can see what I'm getting at here. It's like we ran. We ran fast. as a society. And I think we can unwind some of it. We can hit the breaks. I hope we can hit reverse on some of this insanity. Yeah, I think it was a big correction in 24. We also have to remember

a lot of this came to be in 2020, okay, when people were stupid, probably the dumbness we've ever been. We allowed the government to close businesses, lock healthy people in their homes, close down gyms, but you could order Uber Eats until you were 350 pounds. 2020 was a stupid year. People were posting black squares to end racism. This was a dumb year. So when all of this woke stuff happened, it was in 2020. So I don't believe that it's because we legalize gay marriage that we got to Leah Thomas and all of this.

I think it was 2020 in woke insanity that brought us there. And then 2024 was a giant correction of that. So I think if we stay on track and we stay normal and sane, I don't think we're going to go back there. I don't think they can pull us back there. I think that we're going to probably, you know, there will be some left turns here and there. But I think by and large, the American people are back on track from where we were in 2020. Okay. And here's where we can bring this conversation full circle, Tommy.

I think you're right. I don't think it's an inevitable leap from gay marriage to Leah Thomas. I don't think that's the logical, slippery slope next step. But I think if empathy is your guiding light, that's where you're looking. go. I think if empathy is what drives you in every calculus, you'll just continue to apply it in hyper-narrow, horse-blindered focus without seeing how it affects other people. And so if empathy is what was your guiding light, you know, in 2011 on gay marriage, and not that empathy shouldn't play a role, but whether or not it's your only calculus in your guiding light, then you get

to this insanity. And I think that's kind of that brings us full circle. on, you know, what's happening with men, what's happening with women, and so forth. Okay, before Tommy goes and gets ready for Tommy Leonard is Fearless, which kicks off in about 30 minutes, I do want to ask you this. I said I wanted to come back to it. Where did you grow up in South Dakota? Rapid City, more commonly known as where Mount Rushmore is. Yes, and you and I have probably discussed this because I tend to. I really love Western South Dakota. It is awesome.

dead wood, even the badlands, which I haven't got to really, really, really experience the badlands, but Mount Rushmore, all that area. So I know you grew up, like, didn't your family cattle ranch? Is it, or they still do? Is that how you grew up? Yeah. I didn't grow up on a ranch, but both of my parents come from ranches, and my dad's side of the family still has the ranch in eastern South Dakota.

So I come from a ranching background, but I grew up. as most people do in South Dakota, I grew up out of town. I grew up on 12 acres with horses and kind of out in the middle of nowhere by our city standards. So that's what shaped me. And South Dakota is definitely much different than even Tennessee or Texas. When you're in South Dakota, you can't go to Nashville and you can't go to Dallas, right? The closest big cities are Denver and Minneapolis, which are about six to eight hours away. So it's much different living when you're in South Dakota or North Dakota. They've completely taken over Montana, by the way,

which we're not happy about. And we're hoping that they just stop at Montana and parts of Wyoming and leave South Dakota alone. But they're getting ready to infiltrate, I will say. The folks from Colorado are looking at South Dakota, and they are licking their lips because they hate Denver, so they're coming to South Dakota. Well, and I'm not doing it any favors right now

by seeing the praises of that area, because it is beautiful in a way that people, don't appreciate. People know about Montana. People know about Jackson Hole, Wyoming. People know about Colorado, but South Dakota over there. So, okay, so your family was in eastern South Dakota for their ranching because that's where, that's what I was curious about. That's more flatland, prairie land, grassland. Um, you, you had, you know, I guess we're going to call them mountains. They are kind of mountainous, but really, really big hills and cliffs. Like, that had to been your life like 12 acres outside of rabbit city that's i mean i wish i could see the pictures of it

like was it flat or did you have some really nice topography yeah they call it the black hills and the reason they call it the black hills is because we have so many trees that the hills look black but yeah i mean if you've seen photos about rushmore that's essentially where i grew up you can see mount rushmore um on certain places near my house if you're up high enough you can see Mount Rushmore. So that's really what I grew up in is the Black Hills, which is beautiful. And a lot of people think South Dakota is flat prairie land. That's a lot of North Dakota. South Dakota, as you know, is beautiful, and it's filled with hills and lakes and streams and outdoor activities, and it's great. But we don't want the Californians to know that

because then they'll come and they'll destroy it. Okay, well, we'll stop singing its praises, even though we love South Dakota. All right, Tommy Lairn, she kicks off in about 30 minutes. Make sure you check her out at Outkick.com. And Tommy, you're now, as of the last couple of months, also on the Fox News YouTube channel as well, right? And if Fox News.com. I'm not on Fox News YouTube.

I have my own YouTube channel. Tommy Laron is Fearless. But I do come up right after you on Fox News.com for digital streaming. So we are neighbors in time slot. If you're watching on Fox News.com, just let it keep rolling for Tommy Laren is fearless. All right, Tommy, great to see you. Take care. Thank you.

Thanks so much, Will. Okay, there she goes. Again, Tommy Laron is fearless right after this show. Okay, I mentioned I, too, like interacting with people that disagree with me. For anybody watching on Fox News.com, Fox News YouTube and Fox News Facebook, you get a good shot there of tinfoil patch. What just happened? Producing our show. I don't know, but we're watching Tommy take off her IFB as we speak as well.

I wish had a glitch in our system. Oh, that's a convenient way to offload responsibility, two of a days. You're literally the guy that controls all this. So it's good. It's like a little lap around the show. We got to see everybody here involved tinfoil pat. Might as well bring your shot up two days. And we got to see Tommy taking off her IFB.

Let's see how it went and talk about the behind the scenes of that interaction with somebody who disagrees with me, former State Department spokesperson for Joe Biden. Ned Price joined me yesterday, and your comments are rolling in. Next on Will Cain Country. For a limited time at McDonald's, enjoy the tasty breakfast trio. Your choice of chicken or sausage McMuffin or McGrittles with a hash brown and a small iced coffee for five bucks plus tax. Available until 11 a.m. at participating McDonald's restaurants. Price excludes flavored iced coffee and delivery. Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy host of the Trey Gowdy podcast.

I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com. What does it feel like to get old? You might get old listening to Ned Price, State Department spokesperson for Joe Biden. yesterday on the Will Cain show. This is Will Cain country streaming live at Fox News YouTube, Fox News, Facebook, always available at Spotify or on Apple. So, fellas, yesterday, we talked about Donald Trump's great foreign policy accomplishments, notably over the last, I'd say, 30 to 60 days.

Peace between Indian Pakistan, two nuclear powers on the verge of expanding war. Peace between the Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda, a vexing situation. over decades, always on the verge of something horrible happening in Africa. Donald Trump brings them into the Ophal Office and the Chief's Peace. Twelve-day war comes to an end with decisive military action between Israel and Iran. Israel and Gaza, now on the verge of peace. Thanks to President Donald Trump. I ran that by yesterday.

That resume, those set of accomplishments, the former State Department spokesperson for Joe Biden. His name is Ned Price. And I wanted to see, hey, even you, right, can give Donald Trump this credit, credit that some are saying deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. Nope. No, no, no, he cannot. Here's Ned Price. That over the course of this conversation, you and I are going to have plenty of disagreement. I'm curious, though, if after what you've seen over the past 30 days, 60 days on the world stage, you can join some of that bipartisan praise for what's happening. from Africa to India to Israel, and what President Trump has accomplished

in pushing forward peace? Will, I got to say, you make an excellent cheerleader for President Trump. Of course, that's not my job. My job is to help explain the facts as I understand them, and I think the American people should as well.

He rattled off a number of issue areas. We can take them in turn. But let's start with Iran, something that you've been talking about quite a bit on your program. Your guests have been talking about as well. I think it is patently true that all of us would have wanted to

see an outcome where Iran could never, never, never acquire, otherwise obtain a nuclear weapon. But when we talk about the tactics that President Trump reached for, that's not what we have. All right. There we go. He came right out of the gates hot and said I was an excellent cheerleader for President Trump. Now, I just want to go to the comments section here for a moment because at this point in the debate, I got to tell you, my brain is firing and I'm making calculations. immediately in that moment. I'll tell you my calculations, but so were you out there among the militia. This is some of what people had to say. John Davies said, oh, M.G, that's the weakest I've ever seen you be. You are way smarter than that guy. My God, another Biden hero, bring him back

and slap him with your pom-pom. He deserves it. He out and out lied. Wow. And John Davies wasn't the only person who was upset. Here is, headwords who said, Will Kane, I love your show, but please don't have Ned Price on in the future. I love a good debate, but he's not a serious person. And he brings nothing to the conversation. Fox has enough libs in their stable who aren't serious thinkers. They are just bodies who blather out silly Democratic talking points, and we learn nothing. And then others said this.

Jenny says, the liberal, I think I can say it. How about I'll just edit it to this? The liberal tool made a complete ass out of himself. Thanks for putting him in his girly man, place, Will. But others said, I let him walk all over me that Ned Price destroyed me. So that's some of the comments at this point. What I will say to you, fellas, is he called me a cheerleader. And immediately I start going, okay, first of all, I don't get mad.

I'm excited. I'm like, okay, it's on. And I debate with myself, do I interrupt him right now? Right now, do I cut him off? And I decided, no, no, I'm not going to because I don't care. Not very much that you called me a cheerleader. But I filed it. I put it in the back of my head, and I thought I'll return to this.

And I let him say for a while what he wanted to say, because that's what a conversation is, and that's where a debate is, and I can't constantly interrupt. But I will admit, in this interview, I did end up interrupting more than I normally would. Here's a little more from this with Ned Price. We did have something that permanently and verifiably prevented Iran from ever obtaining a nuclear weapon, which I think is our shared goal. You said this administration always consistently said that Iran could never have indigenous enrichment. That's also not true. President Trump's special envoy early on came out and said they can enrich at very low levels. That's totally fine.

Let me ask you this, Ned, you came out in this conversation and you, which I let's slide because I'm a good-spirited individual of goodwill, suggested that I might be cheerleading for President Trump. Instead, what I think I'm doing is accurately and objectively describing what's been accomplished over the last couple of months. I would ask you, since you invoked the idea that one of us might be biased, you stood there and told us that we pulled out from Afghanistan. You said it wouldn't be easy, but that we were in a better place.

Well, Ned, I know a lot of American soldiers. I know Afghan nationals. I know a lot of people within the defense industry, with at the Pentagon. I know a lot of people in the United States government that do not share your sentiment about the way that you gave a spokesperson, voice to, the way we pulled out of Afghanistan. And I went on from there. I don't know. And that's my point to rebut him at this point. And I think we have one more clip, but then I pivoted to say, let's establish.

your credibility. Many of your former colleagues have now called out Joe Biden and his cognitive ability, including Corrine Jean-Pierre. I don't know if this is the clip you have two days, but I gave him a chance. Establish your credibility with this audience. What would you say about your former boss? So what can you tell us today about the man that you worked for those four years and what you saw from President Biden? Well, look, I can't help but note that you're asking me this question six months after President Biden left office, a year after he dropped out of the presidential race. Well, this is the first time we've spoken, Ned. I have been asking this question for years. This is the first time you and I have spoken. So can you do it six months

after he left office? And I will give you my perspective on an issue that, in my estimation, at least, is not really news because, again, President Biden has not been president for six months. But here's my perspective, Will. Look, I had the good force to you alluded to. It's news because it was a cover up to see President Biden up close, whether it was in the situation room, whether it was in the Oval Office and the residents at the State Department traveling around the world. And in each and every one of those instances, I saw a president who asked probing questions, who asked the right questions, who dealt with challenging issues and who ultimately fulfilled his most responsible, most solemn duty as Commander-in-Chief and made decisions. Now, look, there is a key difference between

the role of Commander-in-Chief and between the function of running for president. These are two very different roles, two very different jobs. I would say one is more important than the other. I would say one is more important than the other. Running the country more important than campaigning. If you can't campaign, I don't know how you run for the country. All right, so there we are talking about Biden's cognitive ability, which he can't go on to say. I think he hung himself out to dry and saying those two roles are very different.

Yeah, yeah, I'd say so. So if we're seeing concerns on the campaign trail, there's some legitimate concerns about the way you run your presidency. So he's unwilling and incapable of saying that. So back to your comments. Colin White says Will Kane had Ned Price for lunch. Great show. Taco Mama says, you get me so fired up.

Yeah, take that pom-pom to the face, Ned. Blue Line says, are you kidding me? Will let him walk all over him. Mixed views here. Brian McDonald says, why would you let him have the win when he completely dodged every question? I'm not sure what win I let him have. I think I said the win was that he had.

bigger pom-poms than me, suggesting he's a bigger cheerleader and less objective than me. Julie Wetzel says, great job today. You took that lying Ned to task. You graciously offered him a bone, but he is so petrified. Looks like he has a stick up his ass. Sean Suggs, you made Ned look stupid today. I understand why they won't give Trump any credit for all the good work he's done. Okay, I can't go on and read that one.

In my opinion, Will Kane Show is the most. informative show on TV well done will um can i a lot of different can i jump in real quick i just want to say i hope you don't mind me saying this but i was in studio with you yesterday and after that segment i came over to the studio and i was like hey great job that was great first thing you're doing on your phone looking up comments about about the interview like instantly you were looking at it like i didn't even get a chance to say good interview i went i went in right away and you're down there looking at these comments i'm looking at stuff like legit cousin pokey who says ned price is walking all over you um and then connie says and we're gonna need a translator for

this i cannot believe the followers you you must be dropping like rocks i think you're a weak talk show host and every time i watch i get disappointed how you s on but every guest that comes on there is expected so much more and i she's unhappy that's all i take from that um Kevin, though, says I love how you don't let anyone slide an interview, no matter who they are. And someone else said that one that stuck out to me that if you come and debate, Will Kane, you better be ready. You better have your facts. There it is. Pink Channel says you better have your S together if you want to have a go at Will Kane.

So, you know, the point of this is largely, look, I'm going to continue to do this because I enjoy the back and forth, and it's not just for my enjoyment. It can be for the edification to understand why people feel. think the certain way and see if we can hold people accountable for their points of view. I didn't interrupt him and I at times will allow a guest to interrupt me. It is true. I will. But I have, I want to hear what they say and I want to be able to respond. It's, it's not only punch, it's counterpunch. That's how you call someone to account, right? That's by listening as much as you are talking. And so I have to hear, as you do at home, what they say in order to counterpunch in order to hold them

to account. And I understand that's not the style for everyone and it's certainly not for every host and therefore for the audience it's not the style that they want where they just want at most three minutes of slapping this dude around. I'll admit, I mean, I don't know if I handled that perfectly. Maybe I should have interrupted him more.

Maybe I should have focused in on one talking point instead of dealing with three you know and thoroughly ground into dust one talking point. And I'm willing to accept, you know, my own self-reflection on some of these things, but I do find it fascinating, to your point, two of days,

that how one interview can result in two diverge, such divergent points of view. One person in ten full, you said the emails came in, are mad at me that I even platformed the dude or that I didn't completely railroad him. Others see it, whatever for you. That I held him and held his feet to the fire, and you better be ready to answer tough questions

if you come and talk with Will Kane. That's right. It's exactly what they said. Yeah, we, even in the, even right now, people watching Black Horse Rodeo says, talking over someone answering a question shows immaturity, Will. Come on. So is the accusation that I was doing so? Or was he? That I was doing that. See, that's the thing.

Like, what people are mad at me about is I didn't do more of that. Yeah. And you say, no, it's not what they're asking for. Yes, you are. I've been in this business for a long time. I know exactly. That's not to say I did it perfectly. There's a lot of things I could have done better.

And I'm looking at that and watching the clips, and I saw some of it. I actually did. Don't make my rebuttals an aside. Don't ever let my rebuttals get washed over a guy who is going on and on his talking points. And at times there when I say, when he's saying it's not newsworthy, and I say, what's newsworthy is the cover up, I should have hammered that. It got washed away by him talking, and I understand that's what I could have done better. But I do know tonally, especially in television, less so in what we're doing. now where we invite people on and by the way some of that television audience would be very

disappointed in what I do here because I will let them talk and then I will debate what they had to say television you're in a five six minute environment time is a huge issue and and I think there's a lot of people that come away with it not with light but only heat and so they come away with it and they want a feeling and the feeling they want is total and utter destruction. And so I'm not going to probably ever be able to deliver for those people because rudeness is not really part of my toolbag. I'm going to smile at the end.

It's just, I don't know. I'm not mad. I'm not angry, even if you are watching at home. I'm more. Think about this. Do you think that Mike Tyson was angry? Do you think Sugar Ray Leonard was angry? No.

You're not angry. when you're in a fight anger lasts 30 to 40 seconds it's an energy that burns hot and short and out Floyd mayweather is a technician that's why he's undefeated that's why he's undefeated am i calling myself floyd mayweather maybe a little bit will mayweather i am like floyd mayweather in that i'm getting old and a guy we don't love well period and we don't love to is a sports writer named Jeff Pearlman. But Tinfoil Pat found this on social media. I don't follow the guy, so I didn't see it.

But I agree with you, Tinfoil. This was pretty fascinating, this little selfie video he did about getting old. Listen. It is so freaking weird getting old. It is, I can't even explain it. You have to go through it to understand it. Like one day you're young, right? One day you're, you know, old.

over here and you're, one day your friends are getting married and you're at the wedding and you're with the friends who are getting married. So you're all dancing with the people getting married and you're all getting drunk. And then one day you blink and it's your friend's kids who are getting married. And now you're the old people at the wedding. That's actually a pretty good way to explain what it's like. It is so bizarre. He goes on to say in this video, so I told you guys earlier, there's two big markers I feel like

for how it feels to get old. is the incredible flash of time that is the change in your children. And I think it goes slow for a while. Like, it's a normal pace of life from, like, age. See if you agree with this tinfoil, because you have 12 children. From like birth to seven years old is a pretty natural linear progression of time. But then as they hit puberty and all these different weird things and they change, time goes at warp speed and I told you all of a sudden now I'm looking at a six five

17 year old you know and yesterday I was picking him up and carrying him around but the other more interesting thing you have to say is the way people interact with you he's talking about people calling him sir and this kind of thing and in your head you're still like 35 and your contemporaries but you're not and people are calling you sir and then the weirdest part you fade away there was some comments under him and said women particularly experienced this you fade away meaning people stop noticing you your presence that you're there that you're relevant that you're part of their universe you start fading away and you can kind of feel it you can kind of feel it i would imagine if you're putting yourself in those environments like new york city

bars by the way new york city is a great um for you two days a great experiment in this very much so Imagine I lived there for 15 years. You go to, you were going to a bar when you were 28. You may still go to that same bar. And when you were 28, you're like, this is my bar. This is our bar. Where are the people at the bar? Now you show up and you look around.

You're like, no, it's not mine anymore. Look at all these people. It's their bar. And I don't matter. And now I'm getting to the point where I was the old guy. You know in New York bars when you go in? And there's always the like three or four old guys that are regulars that sit at like the corner over there.

Yeah. You're becoming that guy. It's like Larry, Bob, and Joe. they've been here since 1965. That happened to me recently. But I used to hang out with older people at bars, so I was always the young one, and I'm still the young one.

You know what I'm saying? So I set it up that way. So you'll always feel young. So I'll always feel young. It is a weird, weird thing to see it start. And it is happening in my life. Oh, wow. Like, yeah, I'm not the same.

Even as you guys, you guys, you guys are in your late 30s. You know, I'm not the same. All right, two days. You have an update for us? What's going on? Yeah, Hakeem Jeffries is speaking right now. Yeah. If we want to dip into it a little bit.

In corruption, in Congress, in corruption at the Supreme Court, and in corruption with the administration. That's part of our agenda. An anti-corruption agenda. That's what the American people deserve. That's what we as House Democrats are committed to bringing about the exact opposite, Mr. Speaker, of what we see in this bill. All right, that's Hakeem Jeffrey's the House Minority Speaker there on the floor of the House. As they're waiting, I believe, to vote on the one big, beautiful bill. He has the privilege as the speaker to have unlimited time.

I believe they call it like the Magic Minute or something like that. And hasn't he been going since like 8 a.m. or before? It's been quite a long time. been watching yeah he's been speaking for hours i mean i don't know what's more impressive that or the energy of the gallery to cheer him on like that every 45 seconds and that was live yeah this is live that's incredible let's take a quick break let's take a quick break we'll come back maybe we'll check in on that we'll also answer the question of whether or not arch manning as one person has already said is the best college quarterback since tim tibo coming up on

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Still going. Still going. Let's check in. Let's just see. How long can you go? Hakeem Jeffreys. And look toward the future. I mentioned earlier in my remarks that that I wanted to

talk a little bit about faith. I grew up in the Cornerstone Baptist Church. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. We walk by faith. As we listen to Hakeem Jeffries, House Minority Speaker on the Well of the House, filibuster, can we just say it is kind of impressive to sit there and speak for like five to six hours? I mean, that is something.

And as somebody who speaks for two hours on air a day, I've done three hours with a lot of commercial breaks on ESPN radio it is exhausting it does it's because of adrenaline it's the adrenaline

spike and crash that's what I think it is it's not like physical manual labor you know what I mean although I do think the activity of talking itself I think everybody can identify with that is a bit exhausting

but the adrenaline to public speak especially by the way public speaking i think like on a stage it just spikes your adrenaline and then you hold it and honestly this is one of the things that's so so here come my pom-poms impressive about Donald trump like how many times does he spike his adrenaline throughout the day he's doing these public events as public speaking all the time i'm telling you it's an adrenaline roller coaster so i'm just going to give that to keem jeffreys he's going on for hours and hours that's and by the way fairly eloquently i know he's reading he was handed a binder the story is he came in with like five or six binders so he's kind of reading it um that didn't sound like it sounded like he

was speaking but i don't know has he done a long philbuster before who jeffreys yeah i think it was new jersey senator yeah kevin mccarthy did that eight and a half hour one in 2021 delaying build back next time we have on kevin mccarthy we should talk to him about that like literally what does that feel like talking for eight and a half hours and i'd be really curious about that jeffrey started at 453 a.m. this morning so how long is he going it's been as we're live now seven to eight hours it is almost one o'clock eastern time yeah wow that's crazy wow that's nine hours almost you wear a diaper like what does he do that's a great question that's a great question that i would ask that of McCarthy food

That's a great question. Do you fast? I don't know. I think you are allowed to eat. I don't know. Very good questions. Let's see if we can invite on Hakeem Jeffries. Good luck.

One of my old colleagues at ESPN, Paul Feinbomb, who I always liked, by the way, had this to say about the University of Texas quarterback, Arch Manning. I think there's a reasonably good chance that Arch Manning will be sitting on the front row in New York at the Heisman ceremony. That's assuming that his team does what it's supposed to do and compete for not only the SEC, but for the national championship. And I really believe they will. I believe also that Archmanning is the best college football quarterback we have seen since Tim Tebow entered the scene in 2006. Wow. Okay. So that got one person on the show's attention for obvious.

reasons to all of us for any of you that are watching or listening or somewhat new. Tinfoil Pat's our editorial producer here and he puts together a lot of ideas for the show and this idea, he riffed about all the quarterbacks that were ignored

in that analysis by Fine Bomb. Cam Newton, several others, but buried on that list, not inconspicuously, James Winston to Florida State. Tenfold past the biggest fan. offenses in the world college football history

yeah sure do you think if I asked you of any celebrity that you would meet you would be most fan-girled out by James Winston would that be your I don't know what to say I don't know how to behave I don't know what to do with my hands I'm extremely introverted

so I wouldn't know how to react you are when I meet you I don't you know It's not going to go well Sorry Is that mean It's not going to go well He points out we've actually never met in person

He's been working with me For like what are we looking at two years at least It's been over three years Never met me in person It's not going to go well Good morning Would you be more flummoxed By meeting James Winston or Donald Trump

probably um probably james yeah i feel like president trump i don't think that's true i know him i know him i know no i feel like he's very personable um he is but there's still an intimidation factor i don't know i don't know that's a good's a good one i mean president trump would be interesting i mean james is not intimidating he's not intimidating so I think that you would be staring into the son of intimidation. Twice a year now. Back to the substance at hand is Arch Manning, the best college quarterback since Tim Tebow. I get what Feinbaum is getting at, and I don't think it requires us to consider Cam Newton or James Winston.

I also think it's very, very open to criticism. What I think he's getting at, and we could, in order to say, set the standard. We have to go back and look at the career of Tim Tebow, but Arch Manning is heralded, celebrated, obviously anticipated because of his last name. To be fair to Arch, every report out of Texas, not just from homers, but anybody that visits Texas from the national scene like at ESPN comes away incredibly impressed with him as a human being, but not just that, his dedication to being a really good quarterback, the effort and the work that he's putting in. And he has shown some, Some stuff on the field more in practices in spring games.

So there is some evidence to back up Feimbaum on what he is saying. But I feel like what he is saying more is a little more on that akin level to anticipated. Like this is the biggest quarterback that we will have on the scene potentially. But Tebow? He did say best. So that's what we have to do is go back. How anticipated. Tebow was a celebrity.

If Feinbaum had said this, he'll be the biggest celebrity quarterback since Tim Tebow. Would you disagree with that? I see you're already nodding, tinfoil. That might be reasonable. But Tim Tebow was a bad quarterback. Like, he was a fullback with a loaded offense line. Not at the college level. Yes, he was.

Not at the college level. Of course he was. He was floating balls. The balls were all, yeah, it was terrible. A bad thrower. He won the national championship. He was the quarterback. twice.

He was the quarterback. You can't say he was a bad quarterback. He didn't play quarterback. He was a great football player. Yes. But a bad quarterback. I agree with Patrick on this one. Well, then what do you think

Feinbaum is getting at when he says the best since Tim Tebow? Maybe winningest? I think he's talking about, because he was talking about Texas going to the championship. I think he means he'll be like a winning quarterback and bring a team to championships.

And also probably have those intangibles. I don't think he means at the position. I think he just means success for the team, essentially. So like Tebow, he will propel the Longbournes to that level of winning. Yes. That's what I think he was getting at. Because in the beginning of the clip, he says that. Well, in order to match that, wouldn't Manning have to win more than one national title?

He'd have to stay two years. So let's say Manning is awesome this year. And Texas wins the national title. doesn't that put him in a conversation with Joe Burrow instead of Tim Tebow? I think more of a Trevor Lawrence, to be honest. Trevor Lawrence was hyped up, even out of high school. I think it's more like that.

I would agree with that. And then also you've got to think like Tebow's first national championship. He was a freshman. He was a spot player. He wasn't the starter of that team. He came in a shortyarded situation. So, you know, I don't think we can gift him that national championship.

Yeah. Everybody forgets about Chris Leak. Where is he today? I don't even know who that is. That's the quarterback that Tim Tebow backed up. And like Tinfoil said, came in a short yard of situations. It was a platoon situation in that first national championship. Like a blood so pretty?

Tibo. That was a platoon. Not quite. Well, I mean, like, taking over after? No, they literally changed series in situations. Like, what do you think it was, Tinfoil? 60, 40. Leak got 60% of the snaps.

Timbo got like 40% of the snaps. Wasn't that like Tua? I think it was 8020? Wasn't that Tua and Jalen Hertz too at all that? No. It wasn't even like that. Once again, that's that's benching Jalen to start Tua. There's a little more like Texas last year with Arch kind of.

Well, you know, you bring them in for packages. And a lot of us wanted to see, exactly, tinfo. A lot of us wanted to see more of that because honestly, that was 955. You know, I don't even know if Arch got 5%. it's been a long time since we've seen a truly platooned quarterback situation like two guys are playing the position you're alternating series or situations it's been a long time Notre Dame did that seen that a few years ago under Brian Kelly I forget who it was but they were doing that very consistently something Florida's hard I guess historically for a long time and who wants to do that with all this NIL stuff who's going to go to a college where they're splitting time with another a quarterback the entire, every single game. Yeah, I mean, the issue is that there's so few quarterbacks. Because the truth is, one of the things I've noticed about college football that I'm surprised

by is how many running backs do not transfer because they are platooned. The running backs no longer ask for or demand, you know, 25 carries a game or even 20 carries a game. And I think it's because I think the running backs, and I've noticed like some of the top programs are now getting two to three running backs of high quality in every recruiting class and you're always like why would they be up for that they want to be the man but i think they're starting to see the wear and tear on their bodies and they want to get to the NFL with less carries not more carries so but that's never going to happen with quarterbacks

they need as many snaps as possible it's literally all about snaps i i don't know now i don't know what fine bomb is getting at i think you guys make an interesting point that's a weird comp that's a weird leap if you said arch could be the best quarterback and then you said since Trevor Lawrence then I'd get that Joe Burrow

you'd probably say he's already better than James Winston I'd say at this point let's just ignore 2013 altogether that's fine. The biggest apologist I've ever seen in my entire life I don't know who's who's team won on the national championship

most recently here I mean I didn't even have to throw on any raw tuna to catch that fish. I just threw out an open hook and you took the bait. Just an open hook on saying arcs is better than James and I missed new. I can't take the bait. You can't take it. It's a solid bet. It's a solid bet to think he would take that bait. It's awesome if you could fish without bait. Just put hooks in the water. That's what this is trolling tinfoil over James Winston. Regardless, get ready because the hype is going to be massive for

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