Will Cain Country - Lindsay Clancy Juror’s Brother Reveals What Happened (ft. Tim Young & Karol Markowicz)

Episode Date: September 16, 2026

Lindsay Clancy may be out of the courtroom for now, but the outrage over the trial has yet to dissipate, with the lone holdout juror who blocked a not-guilty verdict now trapped in the crosshairs of half the nation’s ire. Tim Young, Media Editor at The Dallas Express, and New York Post columnist Karol Markowicz join Will to break down the latest fallout from Lindsay Clancy’s mistrial, as well as share their thoughts on a new study showing that the most liberal states have the stingiest tipping habits. Plus, they examine how the current AI panic stacks up against past media psy-ops and take a look at yet another controversy over an advertisement featuring Hollywood heartthrob Sydney Sweeney. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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free of charge. BetMGEMGEMP operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming, Ontario. 11 women jurors probably would have convicted Sidney if she had been the defendant instead of Lindsay Clancy. How's that for a tip? It's Wilcane Country. Country. Streaming live with the Wilcane Country YouTube channel,

the Wilcane Facebook page, but here as always, just hit follow at Spotify or on Apple. New York Post columnist and host of the Carol Markowitz show. And normally, Carol Markowitz, and media editor at the Dallas Express and fellow at the Heritage Foundation comedian Tim Young. Hanging out today with us here on Will King Country. Hello. I will.

Carol is a long time New Yorker. I spend 15 years in New York, and somehow this comes as no surprise. According to a new report, Tim, Carol, liberal strongholds are home to America's stingiest tippers, places like New York City. tip something like on average 18% less than people in rural areas. And somehow this comes as no surprise, no shock. Because liberals are less charitable. No kidding. Liberals are less giving.

But they want to take more. But they want to take more. But they want to take more. They want our taxes to pay and fund everything that they want. They are takers. They are not givers. It seems very common sense if you're really. are charitable with your money.

Yeah. Not so charitable with their money, Carol. Yeah, they only like it by force. If you have, if you're giving it out of the good will of your heart, that's no good. They don't like any of that. And you'll say to them, like if you want to pay more in taxes, why don't you just do it? And they say, no, no, we have to all do it in order for me to do it. So I think that's probably how they think of tax, of tips as well.

I wonder if they, they calculate it based on, you know, those, those, it, it, when you go to the coffee shops in New York and like the lowest percentage you can tip, they turn that little screen around and it's like 22, 25, 30 now. Like, I mean, nobody's, nobody's hitting those buttons. I think that's just offensive. They just hit no tip now. I think maybe that's something that's changed a little bit. I can't live with myself doing that.

You would think more liberals means more in coffee shops, right? Because that's all they know how to do, really, a lot of the liberal kids. They come out from art school or whatever, and they're great baristas. And they are great baristas. They are really good at it. But when you're trying to force that 22 to 30 percent tip, I'm not touching the button. Are they really good baristas? Yeah.

Only if you want to take with the side of disdain. I don't know. You get a healthy dose of disdain with your vanilla pump. Yeah, but nose ring means that they know how to put it together. And I admit, I am, because they turn that screen around to me and I don't know what else to do, I go for the highest number. Are you guys always 20%? I hope my husband's not listening.

I hit no tip. And even when they walk away, I hit no tip at coffee because I only get a nice coffee. Do you look them in the eye? Why do you do it? You don't get a tip for it. You don't get a tip for that. And it's, and it's, that's true. I'm probably, I contribute to it.

I mean, I was DC, New York for a while. Now I'm here. I'm the one that kind of balances it out with other conservatives. But, no, I never tip on when you're pouring just coffee into a cup. I should get tipped for everything, though, if you're tipping for that. I'm holding it down for the South because I will not hit zero. You have to hunt for zero. Zero's not an option.

Oh, I work for it. The option, 15% isn't even an option. I believe it's like 18, 22, 25 now. New York, yeah. And they're the three options. And you've got to go off menu if you want to get something other than those three. And I'll admit the embarrassment factor is so high that I just, I usually go middle ground. This is my, we are, we are in a tipping inflation spiral.

And it is, I'm doing it many times begrud. judgingly. Okay? If I am standing at a counter, if I'm standing at a counter, I don't think I should be tipping. No. No. If you have to bring your own food to the table, if you have to bring your own drink to the table, absolutely not. Another thing I have trouble with, a certain rate when you get on haircuts. Why am I tipping on a haircut? Oh, you got to tip a haircut. If it's about 50. That's a service. Oh, you got a tip a haircut. I don't tip a haircut about 50 bucks. If it's like 20, 20 or 30, I'll tip. 40 is my cutoff. Well, that could express some things.

You can see that I've clearly been there recently. Wearing a hat. I got less and less hair to cut. They should be giving me a refund. It's weird how tipping is taken off in areas that aren't traditional tipping environment. Yeah. Smoothie King, tip.

Dickie's barbecue, where you carry the tray away, tip. Coffee, tip. some of them by the way don't do the percentage it's you can it's like one dollar I think Starbucks works that way $1, $5 and I will admit like

I'm not going to do the math but like if you know $8 coffee $1 I just hit $1 Do you tip at a buffet? I always like that there's a tip I've never been to a buffet Is that like Is that like what?

No ticket at the end Do you go to the cash register? Yeah or before Yeah sometimes when they charge you going in they're like you want to tip I'm going to be honest, too. Interesting. I don't think I'm meeting many buffets.

Yeah. Golden Corral. You see the difference in size between the two of us. And I grew up in Baltimore in the hood. And I went to many a buffet, many a Chinese buffet. One of my favorite accounts right now on Instagram, there's this guy, and he says, I'm going to go to a Chinese buffet a day until I get food poisoning. And he's at like a hundred something now.

And he hasn't gotten food poisoning? No. Because you know why they're quite. They overcook the stuff, I think, to make sure that you don't get to say. No. Because he has. tolerance. It's like drinking the water in Mexico.

Mexicans can drink the water. He can eat a Chinese buffet and not get sick. It's sort of like being an alcoholic. He's got that mercury poisoning level to a certain level at his system. So he can eat seafood all day long and there's no problems. With the last buffet, I haven't been to a Lubies or a furs or a Golden Corral or a Chinese food buffet in Ireland. I don't know Vegas. Vegas buffet.

Vegas buffets, yeah. You don't do buffets in Vegas? I haven't been to Vegas. go get crab looking in a while. Last buffet, if you ever want to be super depressed. It's our, that was the last one.

Oh, well, that doesn't count. I know, but buffet style. Unless they're charging. I would charge to go to my wedding. No, a buffet is the food has been sitting out for hours.

It's under a heat lamp. And there are lines and people waiting to get the last scraps. Oh, I know the last. I know my buffets. American Express Lounge. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I do the American Airlines Lounge. and the prosciutto is always a little brown,

and I'm like, I'm good, I'm good today. Yeah. I understand. I feel like I'm high class, but we all know it's kind of just like a big, going back to the tip, though, should we go full European? I kind of like the idea of not tipping

and then just paying people more. They're heading in our direction. They're starting to have tips. Then you get into the fair wage conversation. I don't know. It's intriguing to just pay for your meal, and that's it. Go to dinner and you know exactly what you're getting.

you know but we have way better service that's why to carroll's point they're moving in our direction like any any any european that comes here is kind of impressed by the level of service that they get and it's because tipping is a form of incentive and human beings respond well to incentive so you give them a flat rate in that case a flat wage and you're going to get what you get and that's the attitude you get in france here they know now the more that tipping becomes an expectation and not an incentive then it loses its power. It doesn't have any meaning. And I think we have arrived there.

Tipping has lost its meaning. That was exceptionally good service. I'm going to give you what now? What is exceptionally good service demand? 25%? Because I can tell you that 20 is expected. 15 means is an insult. The windows moved.

And so the windows moved and I think it's lost its meaning on good service. I have a problem. Again, I'm probably the cheapest one of all of us here. It's turning out. When I go to a bar, what do you tip on a drink? Do you tip 20% on a drink? I don't. Most of you're getting out of me is two bucks rounding up.

Oh, that's interesting. Oh, I don't find that offensive. Yeah, it depends. I think giving a bartender. It's like, I think of that as like you would with cash. Yeah. Right? Like if you bought something with a $10 bill and the bartender gave you, you know,

three of them back and you got your beer, you'd leave one on the table, right? Yeah. You wouldn't sit there and do the math. So I think that's okay. I think that's okay at a bar. But part of the problem is we pay with credit card now for everything. Are you telling me like you bought, you know, a couple of rounds of drinks with your friends and then you write like $3 on your $100 tab?

If you got beers, if you got cocktails that they made, that's a service that's different. But if they pour beer, different. It's not that much work. For real. I would do 20% in that scenario. Yeah. The trick in the bar is the single drink. Yes.

Not if you're buying drinks for everybody. If you order a single drink, what do you do? in that situation. And the better question is, why are you closing out? Yeah. I have a Disney problem now. What are you doing?

I've moved on from arcades to Disney. I go to this, I go to Epcot Center. There's a $28 old fashioned I get. Oh. There at F8thold in it? A life of fame and luxury. No, no, at the Disney World.

At the Epcot Center, they have a nice place and the back of the big orb that I go. It's $28 old fashion. It is pre-batch. You went to Epstein Island. Pre-Batch. Yeah, you did.

Yeah, you did. Stop looking for the list. We found. Pre-batch $28? That's wild. Pre-batch $28 is a brown butter old fashion, and I only took $2 on that. I round it to $30.

I mean, that thing should cost $2. I know. I watch them pour it. They put a little stamp. They put a little Epcot stamp on the ice, and then they pour it. That's why I like having cash at the bar. I do think it's fascinating that, and we may have talked about

this a few weeks ago. I know I wanted to because there was another study. We've seen these studies every so often. I'm sure you've seen it, Carol, about charitable giving. Charitable giving is higher in counties that vote red in the south. Charitable giving and time service hours are higher than they are in the northeast in blue cities. And it really does tell a story about the story that people on the left tell themselves about their own empathy, their own willingness to help their fellow man because it doesn't seem to apply to their own life choices in the time that they give away or the money they freely give. It only goes to the voting box. It only goes to how you're willing to vote and how much of someone else's money you're willing to give to the

problem. And I think in a way that is the sodium pentatol, the truth serum, on what is truly the underlying motivation, truly the underlying virtue, truly the underlying reason that you're voting on the left. Yeah, that you want somebody else to do the taking of the money for you. And I think that the reason that charitable giving is bigger in the areas you mentioned, I would bet that it's tied to religion, that there is a religious component. People who are more religious will tend to give more in charity, will tend to volunteer more. They'll tend to do a lot of things more.

They tend to have more community. They tend to have more friends. I mean, there's just certain things that religion gives you. And the people kind of scoffing at that in the blue areas don't know. how much religion can give you and how much it ends up being a positive in people's lives. Also, I don't think people who give that are Christian, I think it's what is it, Matthew 15, you're not supposed to talk about it when you do charity work because that's all you get is the recognition for that instead of the recognition in heaven. See, I know the Bible, crazy.

Last thing that you think would come out of me. But I don't think people who actually give and earnestly give who are like Christian, talk about it. Do you think you shouldn't put your name then on the football? stadium? No. I think if I'm a billionaire and I'm giving to my alma mater, I might just emblaz in the stadium with my name. Anonymous.

No, that's fine. I see no reason to put your name on a state. Why not? Anonymous. But don't you kind of give it to them? Isn't the deal like it's like a little wink and a nod? Like when you get, when you really get fired from an organization in politics and you resign, they give you the option to resign instead.

It's sort of like you give them the money and then they go, oh, you know, since you did that, we'll put your name on the stadium. It's not like, are you asking for it? It's just kind of like an implied, it's implied consent. I don't think so. Like a library at a college. I think it goes like this. How much for the stadium?

Yeah. That's what I think. That is actually exactly how it goes. Yeah. We'd love for you. There is a solicitation. There's a call. We'd love for you to give to the university.

Okay. What are you thinking? Whatever you could give, sir, you know, we're working on the new stadium. You know, it's going to be a hundred, million dollar renovation. Okay. How much to get my name, how much to call it the Joe Jamail field, the Sydney, Sidney Moncrief lower debt, the whatever it is.

And I think that's exactly how it goes. Yeah. Do you want a stadium named after you? The professional stadiums, the professional stadiums. Jerry Jones just super loves AT&T. Like, no, they made a certain amount of money and they got the name on the stadium, right? Right. Let's take a quick break, but we right back with Carol Markowitz and Tim Young here on Will Cane Country.

Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with New York Post columnist Carol Markowitz and comedian Tim Young. But in college sports, it's not a corporate sponsorship. It is a charitable recognition. I agree with a number. When we were in Austin at the Longhorn game, I was sitting with my younger son, and I was like, I just want you to look around the stadium. There were so many names.

So many names throughout the stadium. I'm not talking about retired jerseys. I'm talking about billionaires. But I use that to go, what do you think they did? Let's talk about each one of these people around the stadium and how they made their money. And besides a fair share of them probably being in the air business, there's some interesting stories. And I loved it. I was like, okay, look over there.

The Red McCombs, whatever it was, Red McCombs, the McCombs Business School at the University of Texas, car dealerships. That's what he did. And you just kind of go around. I thought it was kind of fun to talk about, let's just kind of look beneath the covers and try to understand. The game was that bad? The first three-quarters. the fourth quarter was absolutely amazing. You're like, let's start, you're like, let's start researching.

This game is not going there. All right. So let's move to this. Lindsay Clancy jurors continue to give interviews. And I want to share, the hunt is on for the one juror, the holdout juror, right? Who we now know, because of Gail King's investigative journalism, was a black man, is a black man. He wasn't just a black man. He still is.

She was so broken up about that. Black man. Yeah, she had to sit with that for a while. How dare someone be a free thinker? What is that? Let's take a second to unpack that. When that gobsmacked, to borrow a phrase from our friends across the pond, when that gobsmacked Gail King, what does that imply?

Why was she, why did she need to sit with that for a minute that the lone holdout juror was a black man. She was picturing a white guy and a maga hat. Sorry, she was picturing a white guy and a maga hat who hates him. That's it. Really?

I wasn't even picturing that when I thought. Like, who did you picture? I don't know. I think she definitely pictured a white guy. I think it was a white man she pictured. Just Massachusetts. And, okay, that's fine.

But then it's deeper. The implication is, is there's no way that a black man. What? That's what I'm trying to get at. What? Wouldn't look at the, would look at the evidence, would use reason and logic? Would disagree with a female's opinion.

I think that's what it is. I think there's an expected level of tolerance of women's opinions. And the, because Gail is black also, she believes that that tolerance, that black men would tolerate her exact same opinion more than anybody else. You think that's what it is? It's like an expectance of servience? Yes. Yes. Hmm. Hmm. It's really interesting. Okay. Obviously, 90% of black people vote in the same direction. Okay, so with that comes a presumption of group think in and outside of the group, right? So in other words, it's not just a presumption of Republicans that black people are going to vote on the left.

But it's a presumption within black people, you should vote on the left. Right. And so I think when Gail is doing that, she's saying that that's the correct opinion and kind of therefore that's the left opinion. And why would a black man deviate from the correct opinion? That's what I'm not sure it's subservience. I'm sort of like thinking she's like, the 11 got it right. the 11 were in a minority, meaning women. Yeah, you're right. Minorities should think together to see righteousness.

What is this minority doing on his own? That's surprising. But there's this whole thing, and I think we've all heard it where like, I think I was talking about it with somebody on the way into the studio today. This line, like when a black woman is speaking, we must silence ourselves or whatever. Like there's this very, there's a weird phrase like that. Carol, do you know what the phrase is? Yeah, but hold on real quick. but the jurors, what did she say in that interview?

She said, did she say one person of color? She did, right? 11 white people, one person of color. So this isn't him like being subservient to black women. That doesn't apply here because the 11 were white women. Well, no, it applies in Gil King's case because I think it's, it's Gil King projecting from herself. That's what I'm thinking here. Her and Oprah have been ruling the world for a while and everybody kind of lines up to them.

Yeah. It's so, it's so, it's, yeah, I can't get enough of it. I can't get enough of it. I can watch this thing on TikTok. It's Trump. Doom loop. I'm curious about the jurors themselves because we know it was nine women, three men. What was the age range?

What was the racial makeup? I haven't heard any of that. What was it? 70, 70-ish to 22. two. And one person of color and then everybody else was white. A lot of the jurors had children. One person of color was a person of color, a woman or a man? A man. A man. Is a holdout juror? A black man? Yes. A black man is a holdout juror? Yes. Well, I have to sit with that for just a second. I like my read.

I think she was picturing a white guy because she assumed that the holdout juror hates women because how dare he not see that Lindsay Clancy was but a woman who was all mixed up in her emotions and how did he not let her off? And when she was faced with the reality that it's not a magabated white guy, it really shook her.

Yeah. Well, I definitely think she thought it was a white guy. I definitely think that. I don't know about the MAGA had it. You're probably right. You're probably right. She assumed he was... I'm just thinking about that statement, Dan.

But that's what they're saying, essentially. I mean, white guys are bad. That's what I... We're the worst. White guys are bad guys. I learned that from the Green Lantern series. Seriously, like, white guys are bad guys. Right.

We're the serial killers. And that's why lefty white guys are so, honestly, like you called it to performative male or what have we ever done for society? It's like you're putting on an act. You have to put on an act. So I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy.

I'm in touch with my emotions. Because you're told that you're bad. Like I grew up in liberal circles in Connecticut, and I was told that I was bad already just by kind of like being who I am. So I have to go out of my way to rectify that for other people. And I've been told that by- The burden of proof is on you. Exactly.

I'm guilty until proven innocent. And that's why you guys tip more. Yeah. Yes. But seriously, like in dating life, in my 20s, I was guilty. But yeah. No, that's why you guys tip more. You wanted that.

Well, the only people tipping in those little areas to circle back to the last topic is white guys. Yeah. Nobody else. But the dude is, they're on the hunt for him. Like, NBC, Boston is on the hunt for him. He doesn't want to be out there. His brother has spoken. Here's the headline.

Lindsay Clancy's holdout juror's brother reveals details about why he chose guilty. Quote, has nothing to do with religion. It goes on to say that he simply evaluated the evidence. That's what he thought. It's really wild then now to see them basically on a witch hunt for this black man that dared to think for himself. And in some way, and maybe I'm extrapolating too far. It's not unlike how Clarence Thomas has been treated his entire life. The only difference is that Clarence Thomas has been treated that way by, well, first, black people and then liberals at large who feel so emboldened to say horrible things.

So now when I say liberals at large, I mean like white women, white men, say horrible things about Clarence Thomas because he dares to think on his own. And now this guy is an acceptable target. And what point is this jury tampering for future juries? Right. Like, it has to be now, if they're retrying this case, every member, if the media is trying to hunt down this current juror, every juror going in that gets selected for the retrial of Lindsay Clancy, it's going to be scared. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how the prosecution pursues this case. I mean, they should, but I don't know how they do.

By the way, I'm not saying this hyperbolicly or trying to be funny here, but like I absolutely see Lindsay Clancy speaking at the next DNC or them bringing her out or doing something with her. No way. Dude. No way. When it happens. It's not out of realm of possibility. No way. Yeah, I don't know.

Watch. They have enough crazy people. Well, when you say, I don't know, like, are you 100% confident? I'm like 99% sure, probably not. No, that 1%. I'm a poker player, so nothing is ever 100% until it's over. But I think, you know, I think it's a one-outer. is unlikely that Lindsay Clancy speaks at the DNC.

I would take that bet every single time that she doesn't. Well, I get odds. Tim or I get odds. I'm willing to take it if I get the right odds on this. I'll put it 20 down. I'll get one high-end drink. You guys cover the tips? Even money?

I'll put $20. I don't know about your $38 whatever back drink. I'm not buying out. $28, thank you. I'm not that rich. I'm just moderately. Look, we are to play. in politics where I don't think anything is outside the realm of possibility, maybe even not outside

the realm of probability. So we're sitting here today and we are experiencing, I've said this, I think this AI thing. And I, it's weird. I think this story is super important, super important. I think I went to a parent teacher last night, okay? Not parent teacher. Back to school. Back to school night, right? And that's where you go into the kids' classes and like in each classroom for seven minutes and the teacher gives you the spiel on what they're learning. So I went to, I don't think this is a problem, AP World History. And at the end, the teacher said, hey, I just want to talk to you off. Huh? We push, yep. Yeah, they all have a little words like that. I'm just learning those. And he said, I just want to talk to you for a minute about AI. And we're like,

okay. He goes, I know, I know. It's all in the news. Everybody's talking about AI. He goes, I just want to tell you this, last year when I taught this course, I had 50-something students between a couple of different classes. Three of them were very well-versed in AI, whatever they used. I think he said Gemini, that was the one he rattled off, because Gemini, I think, is

integrated into notes or something. It's integrated into something they use, right? So, like, three of the fifth, we'll call it 53, we're really, really good at it and using it and this and that. Because all I want to talk to you about is ethics.

he said, we can't catch them. The AI catchers, you know, they scare kids about that, that everything can read it. He goes, the AI catchers are way behind the AI, way behind it. So he goes, and I'm not against AI. Like, we need to use it. We use it as a tool. But if they don't learn how to write and they don't learn how to do some of these things, the AI will do for them, they're not going to do well in the AP test because you don't have it with you in there.

And they're just not going to learn how to critically think and put things together. And he goes this year. So last year, three of 53, he goes, I got 60 this year, all of them, all 60. In one year's time frame, every kid is an expert in using AI like that. He goes, my point is it's going that fast. And so you just need to be talking to them at home, is what he said. Like, we can't catch them. You just need to talk to them at home about ethical ways to use it.

Anyway, I think that the reason I bring that up is the speed that we're experiencing. experiencing this growth is, is massive. And so I think this is a super important conversation. I say that because I don't think it rates. I'm going to get my ratings. It's the number one story this week. I'll see how it's going on TV. My suspicion is it's actually not going that well. I don't think people are attuned to this. I think they should be. I think it's super important. In my position yesterday, if you watched the Will Kane show, which you should, of course we do, is that you're living through the big, you're living through in real time, which is a hard thing to do in real time a sci-op. Like, I think this is a massive sci-op. I think this is a massive

push for government regulation to scare the bejesus out of you about AI, and it will not service humanity. It will service a select few of government officials and tech tycoons who will benefit from limiting competition. That's what I think is happening. That doesn't mean I don't think that there's some scary parts of the future with AI, but I'll tell you this, Chuck Schumer is much scarier than AI. Let's take a quick break, but we're right back with Carol Markowitz and Tim Young here on Willcane Country.

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figuring it out. Somehow things usually get worse before they get better. Apparently, that's how I roll. So bundle up and come along for the bumpy ride. Stream a new episode of North of North Tuesdays on CBC Gem. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with New York Post columnist Carol Markowitz and comedian Tim Young. Yeah, that's sort of so it's the concept that when I take a look at this too, I compare it to like flock cameras. Like I don't like flock cameras. I don't like

being monitored. It can be used, although it could be used for very good reasons, when the wrong couple of people get their hands on it, it can go south really quickly. And they would regulate. to make sure that's that way. Kara, was it you? Somebody I saw a post this morning, like, no, it wasn't you. The same people that give you like a seven-year permitting process, the postal service, the DMV, you know, you could just go on now want control of the world's fastest growing technology.

How is that good? Exactly. And that's the thing. Look, we're looking for shortcuts on how to understand this. And for me, when Bernie Sanders, Steve Bannon and Randy Winegarten are all on the same side of slowing this down. I know I can be on the opposite side of that. And I also think that there's this questionable thing where we're moving towards it. Like you said yourself, you know, all the kids are using it. But it's not actually making money yet. It's not producing the level

of cash that they're putting into it. So I think that there's a lot of that to it. They're trying to slow it down so that they could start making more money with it. I find this all to be very, very suspicious. And the fact that yesterday, Mehta, Mark Zuckerberg, came out and said meta had some, you know, issues with its program and that they delayed it. And that's what you do when you have some issues with your program. You don't ask the government to step in and help you. I think all of that is a big tell that it absolutely is a psychop. Also the fearmongering, because we've been through the fearmongering. And if you haven't been anesthetized to the fearmongering at this point, then you're just going to be, and I hate that

term, an NPC in this video game, who can be motivated by fear. Because it's so obvious. Here's Time magazine a few years ago, be worried, be very worried. And that is a reference to climate change with a lonely polar bear sitting on a melting chunk of ice. Today it is, how dangerous are you, the AI tipping point? And as I said yesterday, that's just two. Peak oil, COVID, overpopulation, over and over and over. You are sold the great, in my mind, the greatest human motivator fear. Right. There's also, you know, the question of AI in schools, the people who stuck all of the kids on screens, I mean, the Randy Wine Gardens of the world, who made deals with all these, you know, computer companies to introduce screens into the classroom, to get rid of books,

are now saying, let's not have the kids use the technology that we imagine is going to be the main thing in the next decade or so. How does that make any sense? Like, I don't want my kids writing their papers with it. And A-Push, you know, that's the American U.S. history, the AP class, it really is a great example of if they write the papers using AI, they won't do well in the test. That kind of thing is exactly where we should have AI usage, where you know you can't use it in the class because it's not going to help you long run, but you should learn how to use AI and maybe you should use it to study, for example, for tests. And so this whole thing of like ban AI in the classroom, No, ban all screens in the classroom in that case.

Let's get rid of all the screens. What are we doing here? I find this to be a Chinese. I always think it's a Chinese sci-op. The same thing the last time I was here, I think we talked about data centers. And if they can slow our children and our growth, they aren't slowing themselves down. Their kids, I guarantee they're training their kids directly on AI and how to research and how to use it properly to move forward as much as they can in their own country.

I really ultimately think this always boils down to. And a lot of times, both sides get paid off and both sides get these talking points. or whatever, but a lot of times the left loves to run with those talking points. The same thing with climate change. With climate change, you know, they always go back to like us being energy independent. It always, climate change always boils down to us being energy

independent and we shouldn't be producing our own fuel. We shouldn't be having refineries, things like that. Things that slow us down in the global race. Right. It's funny for an ideology called progressive. It's very regressive. I mean, it's the same thing when they call us fascists,

and they're the ones that want they want to silence speech that's anti what they believe. They literally use the opposite terminology for everything and point fingers and accuse the other side of doing what they are doing. And then did you see Dario Modi, who is the CEO of Anthropic, he's the one driving much of this conversation. He's talked about an NGO that could be put into place to govern the process of what they're calling frontier AI. And the New York Post, Carol, as I'm sure you're aware, had a profile. of all of these people. It's like seven of them, right? And I don't think we have that. Do we, Dan, like their pictures are enough. Just sometimes that old argument of just look at them is good enough. Like, just look at them. But these are people with their pronouns and their bios. They're into this

thing called effective altruism, very, very into this thing called effective altruism, which sets them up as the arbiters of what is good for humanity. And I don't want these people in charge. of what's good for humanity. Right. And Bill Gates yesterday said he wants like an international commission. Like no, thank you. Who's going to be on that international commission?

We are the only game in town. It's us and China producing this. So please, like the idea of an international commission is laughable. And of course, he's always pushing this kind of thing. And he pushed it during COVID as well. David Sachs, all in pod, and he's in the Trump administration now.

He had this great point. If you want to slow down AI and you're running these AI companies, go ahead and slow it down. What do you need the government for? Why? Everybody has to do it at the same time. It goes back to the whole, you know, Libs don't want to pay taxes. They don't want to pay more. They don't pay tips, but they do want everybody to have to do it. So it's the same thing. It's like they want, they need the government to slow everybody down and help them. And if you want to slow down, you could do it. Okay. Speaking of things you can't make sense of, so everybody is upset at Sidney Sweeney.

What's this ad for? This is the problem with the ad. Nobody even knows what it's for. A gambling, gambling, right? Is it for gambling? Yeah. So,

they put that on screen and you get the ratings. Yeah. This is how you get the ratings to go up. Just leave that up. I saw Jesse Waters doing that. They know what they're doing over there. Get the ratings out. My wife told me to ignore this one.

What do you mean? She's like, don't look at the ad. She's okay. Look at Sydney. Jeez. And one, in two of them, she's holding footballs her chesticles. She's lucky her hair's that long, huh?

Yeah, and that one where she's on the basket ball. It's tough that's in Times Square, though, no? I mean, or is that just New York City? Am I being too sensitive? I don't think anybody is, nobody's upset driven by prudishness. That's the point. So it's largely the left and the feminist side of things that are upset by this, but explain to me why.

Okay, this is. Ugly girls don't like pretty girls. conversation over that's just that's it's a tale as old as time attractiveness is the eye of the beholder thank you very much so yeah she might not be attracted

that's why well that's why I'm I'm jealous of Will look at look at how beautiful he is compared to me I'm just I come in here I'm like oh he's on TV again we're all beautiful special people it's fine these are the same people that have argued for the normalization

of sex workers these are the same people that have celebrated drag queens which by the way is not simply do dressing up as a woman. It is somebody dressing up as a very risque and sexualized version of a woman. It is the same people that have advocated for trans, you know, whatever performers, twerking in kindergarten classrooms. Okay, twerking, without a doubt. So talk to me about how this sexualization of Sidney is somehow this violation of feminism. Also, my body, my choice.

No, this is, by the way, and sorry to kind of take it. Just to take it. Did it? For real, that'd be really funny. It did actually. Put it up. Put it back up. Put it up while Tim talks. No, please. Put her up over my face. That's fine. No, look, something, there's a slippery slope that happens here, and it happens to

Islam. When Sadie Khan took over in London, I don't know if you remember this or not, but they eliminated all bikini and underwear ads in public. You're not allowed to have them anymore because they said that it was body shaming to overweight women. But in reality, it's the Islamists. coming in and saying, hey, we don't want women exposed anywhere. The body shaming thing has been totally hollowed out.

Yeah. Lizzo is a GOP1 ad, okay? Serena Williams is a GOP1 ad. Stop talking to me about body shaming now. Yeah. I don't know why they hate Sidney so much is that they could not cancel her. It didn't work. They started it with American Eagle.

They wanted to destroy her. They wanted to destroy the brand. How dare she? she talk about, you know, kind of make a tongue-in-cheek joke about her G-E-N-E-S genes. And they wanted to destroy her, and they couldn't. And it was really one of the moments where it was like a Bud Light moment where it didn't work. Their thing didn't work, and they lose their absolute minds when that happens. And that she continues to live and look good and thrive and be on billboards.

They can't stand it. And I think it has very little to do with how attractive she is. There's a lot of attractive women in the world. It's like they didn't want this one in particular being on the billboards and she is anyway and they hate that. And they see that was right wing too. Oh, I think Carol was on something. Because let's just let's put it to the test. Okay.

Who is an attractive woman on the left? Is it Jennifer Lawrence? Anne Hathaway. Yeah. I'm not that much of an Ann Hathaway guy. Like a crazy leftist who is. Beyonce was on a Times Square billboard for years. You know, Beyonce is like a, you know, a track.

She's a definitely leftist, uh, likes to show off her body celebrity on the left. Yeah. And I think you're right. There would not be this reaction to Beyonce doing this ad in that exact same fashion. Yeah, there would be a lot of those yes queen comments. Yeah, they'd be championing. So it's not just pretty one thing to show off her perfect. Exactly.

Yeah. The Kim, Mark, Kim Kardashian. There's another side of this. I don't expect you to understand this topic, but the, the Wolverine game came out this week for PlayStation 5. Okay. And they've got major. they've got Major, where's Patrick at when I need him?

The three main female characters in it. They have made look like bland 50-year-old women. Really? Yes. So it's like mystique, I think, Jean Grey, and then somebody else is in it. And they've made them all look like old, bland 50-year-old women instead of hot young women, which they were portrayed as. Yeah, I was going to go there too, Carol. Yeah, like, slow your role here.

Yeah, no, 50, that's right. I don't want to go to HR. I don't want to have a meeting in HR talking about that. Right, right. The girls in the video games should obviously be like 25-year-old, you know, hot, whatever. Jennifer Lawrence is. 50 being old, that some of us coming towards that, like, you know. So I think you're right on the Beyonce versus Sidney-Sweeney thing.

But I do think, Tim, you have a point. Like, if Lindsay Clancy looked like Sidney-Sweeney, I don't think she would have got as much sympathy. Yes. Like, that's the way you get 11 women in the jury box to be like, guilty. Yeah. Because every one of the women we've seen in interviews from that jury, you know their politics when you take a look at them. Like immediately, they look like these women who are out doing all the pro-Palestine protests and whatever else that you see everywhere, these anti-Trump things.

Yeah. Yeah. Poor Sidney. People are pointing out to look at the Sports Illustrated body edition. Like, that's the same thing. Why aren't people complaining about that? men and women both do that. Right.

They're selling something. They're kind of mussely in that, though. They're not quite, I mean, Sidney Sweeney is much more feminine than any of the women in that magazine, I believe. Right. Yeah. But didn't Sophie Cunningham do that? Didn't she do the body issue? I think so.

I'm asking for a friend. I don't know. I don't see the body issue, to be honest. I don't buy. Who sees Sports Illustrated? I don't see a bigger thing. I only see the Sports Illustrated. Remember when the swimsuit issue was a thing back in the day and like every year, like Christmas time or whatever it came out?

Absolutely. It was huge. And then all of a sudden they ran out of viewership and then they were like, haven't they put like a trans person on the cover? And then like Martha Stewart was on the cover once. And then I don't know if it's that. This is like our Nike conversation other day. Like there's reasons that Nike stock has dropped.

And it, you know, it's not because of, not primarily because of their pivot to wokeness. Like, you know, I used to be able to name it doesn't help. But like I used to be able to name the top three Victoria's Secrets models, right? Everybody could. Yeah. But now I have no idea. Remember, like, the time of, like, Al McPherson, Cindy Crawford. This is Sports Illustrated.

Yeah. And also, didn't they cross over? Were they also? Well, women wanted to stop it. Alessandria Ambrosio, Victoria's Secrets. That's a deep cut. Heidi Klum. But now I couldn't name either.

Heidi Klum, yeah. Yeah. But the women tried to stop the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition. What Dan Show, we used to be, we used to have the girls on when they had, like, the edition came out. and women would be like, why are you championing this? This is just bringing women back and all this stuff. So they ruined it themselves and then they wanted to be body positive and then they changed it.

Now it's not a thing anymore. When you bring on a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model, what do you ask them? Wow, how was the beach? How was Mayorka? Essentially. How was the Maldives? Yeah. Let's take a quick break, but we're right back with Carol Markowitz and Tim Young here on Will Cane Country.

Welcome back to Will Kane country. We're still hanging out with New York Post columnist Carol Markowitz and comedian Tim Young. After the Texas game this last weekend, Steve Sarkisian gave an interview, sort of, to ESPN's Holly Row. And he basically, all he said was, I think he said, hook him or something, let's go, and ran off. And it was, you know, it was a controversy. Like, why was Steve Sarkisian such a jerk to Holly Row? And then again, there's a lot of reasons that went into why he didn't stick around for that interview. Oh, you have it?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Let's watch our Sark and Holly Roe. Holly Roe rolled her eyes and pouted and walked off. For what it's where, Holly Rose got like all kinds of, I think in her ex-bio, it says anti-racist. She's whatever, whatever that's worth in this conversation. She stopped people from being racist then. at her profile. They go to her profile.

You know what? I like black people now. It's fine. Thank you. Exactly. I was going to do something. Well, afterwards, I guess Archmanning, Texas quarterback, was asked about this. And he had, in the meantime, he had seen an AI video of people playing with that moment. And then the one that he saw, Sark slaps Holly Rove and walks off. And he did exactly what you just.

just did. He laughed about it and kind of was like, oh, that one's funny. Okay. Now we've got another new level of controversy. That Arch is a bad dude or Arch is whatever. It's against women. And he published an apology and Holly Roe accepted it. Here's her post in response. She said, thank you, Arch. I appreciate our conversation about this, which will remain private. Apology accepted. We move forward with respect and kindness for one another. So there are now people like, oh, come on, Holly, get off your high horse or whatever. Dan doesn't like it. Not the Holly Road part, the arch part.

You don't like the arch part, right? I just think you got to know a little better. I know he's a kid. I get it. But he's a manning, and he's getting paid to play college athletics. He's basically a pro athlete at this point. You've got to have some understanding of what you're saying to the media. You know, you can say that to your buddies.

He's also a... When I say this, people are going to get mad. He's also a kid. I know he's 20 and 20-year-olds have fought in wars. I know all that. I think the whole him being a manning, like, you know, like Will I'm a Dallas cowboy fan, therefore I hate Eli Manning, you know,

on a football level, but on a personal level, the mannings are like the nicest people ever. No, totally. There's celebrity. Like, into hitting women. Like, he laughed at something stupid. How many of us have laughed at something stupid in their lives? And it just, I also didn't think that, I'm sorry, I don't know the coach that walked away. I don't think he did anything wrong.

It was loud. He couldn't hear her. He was like, you know, horns and let me move out of here. So I think this whole thing is like a drummed up scandal. Again, the left is like holding on to that ability to be able to cancel people. And they don't have it anymore. I think it's making them a little crazy. We also live in a time where the Mannings in particular, because they have such an empire and Texas, should have rapid response for this stuff.

I know it sounds crazy, but again. Well, I think they did. That's why they made Archer apologize. But, like, he should have never been in a position where he was able to make a statement to begin with. Well, I think it was a posting press conference. Remember, isn't that true? Didn't they not let students do press conferences like that back? Well, I think they don't let freshmen, but Arch is in his third year.

You know, at some point, and you're Arch Manning, you're the most famous college football player. You're going to be put in front of the media. And then he was asked about this, and he ended up acting like every other college kid. He laughed at a dumb joke. I personally didn't think it was that funny, like that AI video, not because I'm appalled by it, not because I'm, like, offended by it. I just legitimately didn't think it was that funny. But he's a 20-year-old kid, and he's like, pretty funny. I laughed at the concept of it because it's just so stupid that, like, because,

I guess she's already so offended. It's kind of, it's being hyperbolic with a meme and turning it with AI to make it a video like, yeah, I mean, clearly he slapped her. You know, that's what happened on the field. It wasn't just a statement. But some people thought it was real. Because that's how she was behaving. Yeah. You know there are.

I'm very excited, by the way. As we talk about AI when we start seeing all sorts of deep fake videos of our politicians that look very, very real. Did you see the one this morning? No. Was it Nancy Mays? You guys know who Tiffany Gomez is? No. Oh, yes.

On the plane? Yeah, I saw the song. She's the lady on the plane. Oh, that says... With Mitch. That is not real. It's that video, and then they pan and it's Mitch McConnell sitting in the seat. Look at all a loss.

I had a 20-minute phone call with him yesterday, actually. It was very good. Oh, did you? Caught up with him. Oh, did you? And we call him and we just talk, you know, about sports and things. He prepped me for the show. Oh, Carol's got something.

A defense of Mitch McConnell or a further attack. on him, but hasn't he looked like this for like a decade? I'm kind of surprised. No, he's gotten worse. Has he? Like I, he's, he's just looked like this the last time. Yes, Carol. Yes.

This is a losing argument. He has turned into Carol, no. As much as I'm like pointing out that he's been in bad shape for a while. Like I don't think this is as new. His responsiveness has gotten worse. Let's just say that. He has turned into and shame on our side. side because I had the talking point when they wheeled out Diane Feinstein and she had no idea

what she was saying. I remember that vote where the she started talking, rambling and the staffer was like, just say nay or just say yay or whatever, kept whispering it to her. Like, shame on our side because they took that talking point away from me that they are wheeling him out now and doing the thumbs up or the thumbs down. It's disgusting. And like, again, term limits and age limits. All right. I fully agree with you. Yes. I just don't understand the conspiracy, any conspiracy theories around it. He's retiring already anyway. There's going to be another election to replace him. Like, what is the, what's the, like, thing that we're doing here holding on to him?

Like, it's going to be, you know, a replacement very soon anyway. I just don't see the... It doesn't matter. He's voting. He's voting and he's not... The argument is he's not cognitively able to understand what he's voting on. We had an issue here. God bless the Dallas Express came up with it.

They actually should have won a Pulitzer for this. Any other publication would have won't want a Pulitzer for it. Kay Granger was in a mental care facility. for six months. They had her locked up in there and her and her offices were completely empty. This is, in that instance, I kind of give him a little bit of respect because at least they hid her and she wasn't voting on something on the floor. When you're rolling out someone who is not cognitively there and a vote is coming out of that person some way or another, there's something very wrong about that. I'm just wondering, why is he holding on? Why? Why? I don't get the answer to that is got to be. So let's let's sort through that. So the answer is got to be the.

Republicans have a small majority in the Senate. They want to get something passed presumably in the next, what is it, four months that would require his vote. Now, the weird thing about it is they rarely get his vote anyway. He doesn't vote with Republicans anymore that often. But in the alternative, what would happen? Carol, you know this better at me. Wouldn't it be Kentucky Governor Andy Bashir that would appoint a replacement should he retire?

Immediately because it's incapable. a snap special election, but it would be, it would mirror the election that's going to happen in November. This is what I understand. That's the thing. It's a reliably red state. Like, I don't get any of the conspiracy around him hanging on. I don't get why he's hanging on, but I also don't understand it's not reliably red. How suspicious. Is it reliably read? Bashir is a governor. Yes. It goes back and forth. He doesn't, he, Bashir does not, does not, um, nominate somebody is from what I understand. It is a snap special. Okay. But, but as a basic premise, I'm with you, Tim, like, we should not have people of either party in there that are mentally incapable of doing the job. They should have to

pass at least a quarterly cognitive test. I don't think it's hard to do. Those cognitive tests are like, remember, you know, like, what is it? Like, Trump came out and said it once, right? It was like, elephant TV, whatever, something, and then you just repeat it back. You do a little thing. It takes like five minutes to see if you're there. Could Fetterman have passed that back in the day? No. See, that's, that's, that's, so you got to give a grace period maybe too. Like, Fetterman's clearly back, you know? Yeah, he's back on the right side. I mean, dresses like me, and that's what I like about him. All right, really quickly, I imagine Carol, you have some stuff on this. So I've gone back and forth on whether or not I feel bad for Ed Shearin. So he's the guy caught in the middle of all of this.

But Macklemore thrift shop guy went out on stage, gave a huge pro-Palestinian. You want to hear some of it. You've got some. Yeah, I want to hear it. I saw a clip of the day. It's not a short thing. He didn't yell free Palestine and have everybody else yell free Palestine. He went on and on for a while at a concert.

In his defense, he doesn't have to make this all day. One of the reasons why I wanted to come on this tour, was because I wanted to stand up here on stages and stadiums across America and say two words that are very near and dear to my heart free Palestine.

All right, he goes on and on from there. Then he says free Sudan, free, he rattled up Cuba, free shrimp. And then he said free America from ice. Free AO. And, So now, Robert Kraft has said not at my stadium. Yeah.

He said, you're not going to do that at the Patriot Stadium. So he canceled Ed Shearin the whole deal. Now, Ed Shearin canceled McLemore. So I don't know if Ed Shearine's scheduled to take the stage in Foxborough. And then all the other potential opening acts for Ed Shearin have canceled themselves. They're like, if you're canceling McLemore, we're out too. And I don't even, you know him, Dan. I've never heard of him.

He created all of Billy Ilish's brother. He created all of Billy Ithish's music. He's one of the biggest artists in the world. Her brother, right? Who? Phineas. Phineas? Yeah, he's one of the biggest artists and producers in the world.

All right, so this story has spiraled out of control with people, celebrities of all stripes, saying, you know, this is canceling free speech, and you're allowing a billionaire and a few rich people to control what you can say. I don't go to a concert. people don't go to a concert for a political talk. And I don't understand. I would feel like such a waste of money. Maybe you go to Bruce Springsteen now for a political talk because that's what you're getting.

Yeah, but they played, was there less political talk at Woodstock? Were they just out playing music there and they just all were kind of there getting high and they just knew what they were there for? I feel like getting a lecture, maybe if Macklemore, and again, this is not me, not trying to be funny, but maybe if he had more hit songs or he was bigger, people would tolerate it a little bit more. Like if Ed Shearne did it, what do you think would happen? Not the same thing. I don't think people, yeah, no.

If Sabrina Carpenter did it, I'd still be there singing along, you know? Right. Big Sabrina Carpenter guy. I'm just setting them out for you. Look, at conservatives, we've been through this a million times, right? We go to a show, we get a lecture. I remember the Bush years, you could not go to a concert without, like, some low- IQ musician telling me about what he thinks about the Iraq. And it was like annoying and aggravating and, you know, just it ruined the experience.

So we all kind of know what that's like. But I love- By the way, back in the day, God, sorry. No, go ahead. Please. Back in the day, they used to yell no blood for oil. And now I'm like, where is the oil? Let's go. What are we doing?

Why is that four bucks a gallon? Where did that oil go? So, you know, I love that Robert crafted this. There were so many Jewish artists that have been canceled in the last three years. I mean, they're starting new publishing companies because publishing companies won't publish Jewish writers anymore because they are quote unquote Zionist, which just means you believe Israel exists.

So I love that Robert Kraft, you know, grew a pair, said no, not in my stadium. And I have no problem with that at all. I can name a bunch that have been canceled. Matisiyahu, who's like this hippie Jewish reggae star, you know, who talks about how much he wants peace with the Palestinians, got canceled a bunch of shows, two years ago.

And, you know, for what? Because he's Jewish, because he believes that Israel should exist. These artists in Miami last year, again, they don't even, they don't give lectures during their shows. And just because they exist, they got, they had their show canceled. I mean, so many. Alyssa Hackenbach, I think her last name is, she, her recent book, the guy, you know, the tour got canceled.

I mean, just on and on and on. And nobody's saying, oh, no, what about the free speech? What about all the different conservatives who can't. speak on campus and get canceled. You know, where's their free speech? The Daily Wire had a movie out this week. Got canceled in D.C. The movie theater kicked them out. Where are all these free speech warriors now?

The only one they care about is Macklemore. I mean, I don't believe any of it. And I think the hoopla around it is, I mean, completely manufactured. By the way, I forgot McElmore. He came out on stage dressed as a Hasidic Jewish person and making fun of them back of the day. That's right. He did. Was that McLeod with the, he had the... comically large nose thing?

Is that what he did? Yeah, here. Yes. So this isn't new. What, you have a picture of it? Yeah, so this is the screen. This is the Woody wore. As you can see here.

Oh, yeah. Yes. Look, this is like the Kaepernick thing for me. Like, if Bob Kraft doesn't want to do it at his stadium, he doesn't want to do it at his stadium. Exactly. Period. End of story.

If the San Francisco 49ers don't want that at, the sidelines of their games, period. End of story. If Fox News doesn't want me doing something on their airwaves, period. End of story. That's kind of how it works. Also, the criticism, too, is like people are saying that saying free Palestine shouldn't hurt anybody.

That's their argument. Like, he didn't do anything wrong because he's just saying free Palestine. But it's a lot more than that. There's a lot more behind it. And there's people saying that people were being anti-Jewish in the crowd because he was egging them on by saying free Palestine. So Jewish kids and teenagers in the crowd felt incredibly uncomfortable. There was a non-Jewish.

I don't remember the guy's name, but he had bought a suite at this show, and he said that it was palpably uncomfortable. That it wasn't just, and again, he's not Jewish. He had Jewish guests in his suite, but it's not his cause or anything like that. And he said it felt uncomfortable and that people felt threatened in the crowd. And I fully believe that. That is where this free Palestine nonsense goes. It goes hand in hand with leftist violent activism. So, you know, what I really hope is that a lot of Jews who are traditionally liberal,

wake up, see what conservatives have been going through for decades. And next time, maybe they speak up for conservatives who also don't want the lecture at their show. I remember in the Bush years. I don't think that's, that would be a huge deviation. That's not, it's not. A lot of them, shockingly, Carol, I have not seen the American Jewish. population pivot their politics. Think of how disappointed Gil King would be if they did, they really have. There's been a shift. Look, it's nowhere near enough. I'm a lifelong

conservative. I've always thought Jews should be conservative. I mean, it just does not make any sense for Jews to be liberal. But there has been a shift. There has been a pivot. And I think if it continued, that would be a really positive thing. I was going to say in the Bush years, I went to see this band called Bright Eyes. And he got the whole stadium chance. I love Bright Eyes, too. but, you know, he's super, super lefty. Got the whole stadium chanting F. Fox News. And the whole stadium is chanting and chanting. And then there's like a moment of silence.

This is a big claim to fame for me. And I scream out, you're all sheep. And I felt really, really good. Hey. So you guys need to book her more. She stood up for Fox. Bravo. Carol should be on every show now.

You're all sheep. And what did they do? In a moment of silence. And my boyfriend at the time was like, oh, my God. That's hilarious. Did Connor O'Bur say anything? Where was this? What city was it in New York?

Gave me daggers, you know. What city, Carol? Oh, New York, New York City. It was a small venue. It wasn't Radio City. It was something like it, a seated venue like that. Huh. Yeah.

Yeah, you got to, you know, it sucks. It hate going to a show and having political opinions. I went to Dave Matthews recently. He did the same thing. Yeah. at MSG. Dave Matthews, he's another one like Bruce Springsteen that just goes on a rant. What did Matthews do at Fox News?

No, Free Palestine. He took a good like eight to ten minutes at a concert MSG that went to like a year ago. He goes. And he just went off. And he rambles, you know, he's, I love Dave. I grew up loving him. But I was like, come on, damn, man. What are you doing?

It was rough. The only one that like this for me is that I genuinely like his music a lot. and he's so far left, and I'm sure he would lead a F. Fox News chant, and he said, you can't come to my concerts unless you prove your vaccination back the day is Jason Isbel. You guys ever listen to Jason Isbel? He's one of my favorite artists. I like his music, I have to admit. He is a dick, though.

You ever see his documentary? No. He's not a nice person. I believe you. He's not a nice person. He probably doesn't tip well. Probably tips well below 18%. All right, that's going to do it for us today.

We appreciate Carol Markowitz. Make sure you check her out at the Carol Markowitz show. Also, at Normally, those are podcasts. You can get at Spotify or Apple or at the New York Post where she writes her columns. And Tim Young, check him out on X at Tim runs his mouth. I'm not tipping for being here. Thank you, both. Nice to see you.

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