Will Cain Country - Mainstream Media PRAISES “No Kings” Protests w/ Dr Drew (ft. Bear Grylls)

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

Story 1: Another series of "No Kings" protests happened over the weekend, gracing the internet with a plethora of entertaining clips, but while some protestors were content with showing off their dance moves on the sidewalk, others took things a step further, advocating for and celebrating violence against ICE agents and conservatives. Story 2: Dr. Drew Pinsky, Host of ‘Health Uncensored with Dr. Drew’ & Board Certified Internist, explains how the psychology of men and women differs when it comes to tackling major issues and the role that plays during the "No Kings" protests. Dr. Drew unpacks how these differences can reshape a society, for better or for worse, as more women are selected for religious and political leadership roles. Story 3: World-famous Adventurer and Host of ‘Man vs. Wild’ and ‘Running Wild,’ Bear Grylls sits down with Will to discuss a lesser-known aspect of his life: his Christian faith. Grylls tells the story behind his recently published book, ‘The Greatest Story Ever Told,’ which describes the life of Jesus from lesser seen perspectives, before sharing how his faith helped him through some of his most treacherous adventures. In Final Takes, Will and The Crew debate an AI video posted to Truth Social by President Donald Trump, featuring the President flying an F-16 and dropping a ‘stink bomb’ on a crowd of "No Kings’" protestors. Is it violent rhetoric or all in good fun?   Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@willcainnews) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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among progressives and is president donald trump guilty of violent rhetoric by artificial intelligence portraying him flying an f-16 and dropping poop on no kings with dr drew Penske. Three, adventurer, host of Manverse Wild. Bear Grills has a new book out about the life of Jesus Christ with Bear Grills. It is Wilcane Country on a brand new week, on a brand new Monday. We welcome you back here into Wilcane Country. We had a busy weekend full of football and soccer, but we had a busy weekend.

where the streets were full of protesters, ensuring that we would wake up in America on this beautiful Monday with No King. Let's get into that with story number one. New York Times columnist David French says it was mostly peaceful. New York Times columnist David French posted on X, went to Chicago No King's rally, a huge peaceful crowd. Families were there, people of all ages, lots of homemade. signs. Soros apparently needs to step up his signage budget some scenes below. There was a huge

gap between scary GOP rhetoric and the completely peaceful reality. David French sees the mostly peaceful rally protesting Donald Trump. He ignores those that would call for the death of Charlie Kurt, President Donald Trump, or anyone who opposes them that they brand a Nazi but he sees boogeymen in every corner, as we spoke about last week here on country, every corner of Christianity. It is true people took to the streets. It's true that many, many filled the streets of Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, and Dallas. How many? I don't know.

Some reports say millions. But it certainly wasn't what was painted by MSNBC who showed streets with Barry a little bit. of elbow room. But they did so deceptively with video from 2017. Here is MSNBC. Look at this. Millions of people across the country marching as we speak against the policies of President Trump. This is Boston. Look at that. We'll continue to follow these rallies throughout the day here on MSNBC. Wow. All right. Coming up. Those people were not there this Saturday in 2025. That was some protest, I believe, a women's march in 2017. If quite honestly, we made that mistake on Wilcane Country or we put that up on Wilcane Country, it would be, I guess, somewhat

understandable or excusable. See, we fly by the night. We're shoestring budget. We just got two or three guys, but we actually don't make those kind of mistakes here on Wilcane Country. And we certainly don't make those kind of mistakes or give you that kind of falsehood on the Fox News channel. That goes through a vetting process. Video is cleared of a source of frustration for me. How come the video isn't cleared? How come the video isn't validated? Well, it's because there's people in place, designed to ensure that does not happen. That is misinformation. That is propaganda. That's fake news, MSNBC. Still, there were people, thousands, perhaps millions, protesting President Donald Trump to ensure that he never becomes

or to protest that he has become a king. It's an odd scene because there were no snipers on the rooftops, there were no police dispersing the crowd. Thousands, perhaps millions were allowed to fill the streets of America, something you would not see in Russia, something you would not see under King George, something you not see if Donald Trump were an authoritarian. No, this is a man who's been democratically elected twice.

Some say the second interim objectionable. The Democratic process awarded Donald Trump every single swing state the popular vote. The United States House of Representatives in the United States Senate. These people are protesting not a king. They're protesting the outcome of the thing they say they support. Democracy. What they don't understand is we live, quite notably, in a constitutional republic. I believe it was Thomas Jefferson, who once said, by the way, when it comes to democracy.

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep, all voting on what they're going. to have for lunch. A republic is arming the sheep and allowing them to ensure they are not the lunch. We live in a constitutional republic, and we don't have a king. So congratulations, success to however many took to the streets of Brooklyn. Still, there was ugliness. How much it defines no kings, I guess, is a source of subjectivity and a source of debate. but I don't think there's any debate about the presence of ugliness.

Fox News law enforcement analyst Paul Murrow went out in New York, took a photo, a pretty fascinating photo that was held up at the No King's rally in New York. In it, a poster had someone on homemade cardboard write, which one heals faster? A, Trump's ear, B, Eric. I think even if that's one among thousands, even one among millions, that's enough to say absolutely grotesque. And there is a sickness inside the mind of the left. The question is how many minds? That's the great debate for America.

It should be the great debate for the left. How many minds are infected? How many minds think somehow, some way set aside they think it's appropriate? Do they think it could be persuasive to ask? heels first. A, Trump's ear, B, Erica's heart. Unfortunately, the question as to whether or not this is common among the left, this blackened heart, was given more evidence by this scene in Chicago, where what we now know is an elementary school teacher at Hale Elementary. Responded this way to, it looks like a couple of, I don't know, teenage to early 20s boys,

riding through in a pickup truck holding a sign that said Charlie Kirk, rest in peace. This is what that teacher did in Chicago. Hey, she's pantomiming, and as you can see there, a gun to her neck. Over and over, she does the finger gun to her neck. Completely inexcusable and completely inappropriate for such a person to be teaching, young kids in America. That's a heart that does not belong in public discourse, much less in education.

That's a mind poisoned. I've said, we don't need teachers that agree with every single premise that we should each and individually hold, although it would be nice. We don't need it. But we do have a minimum bar of humanity that is required. And this teacher obviously fails that very low bar of humanity. Once again, unfortunately, she, nor the person holding up the sign asking which heals faster, Trump's here, Erica's heart, are alone.

There were signs as well. Advocating for free Luigi, Luigi Mangione, the murderer of the health care executive in New York City. Murderers and assassins, pantomiming assassinations nation, mocking murder. More than anecdotal evidence at some of these rallies for no kings. take a look at this guy. I'm not sure we've identified who this guy is, but he isn't, you know, seemingly a respectable middle-aged man.

He's not blue-haired. He's not wearing a frog costume inflatable. He's not got a dinosaur inflatable on. He's just sitting up there. He's just sitting up there with a microphone saying, kill them all. Watch. Recently with Charlie Kirk being assassinated,

they... It's a piece of garbage. Of course we were made. Sorry, that's not. the right video. That's a woman who's wearing a designer hat. Instead, watch this guy right here. You got to grab a gun. We got to turn around the guns on this fascist system. These ice Asians are going to get shot and wiped out. This state, the state machinery, that's a full display right there, has to get wiped out.

Dude's waving his hand around like me saying it's the wrong cut to today's Dan. But I'm shaking my head that we got it wrong. He thinks he got it right. We got to wipe these ice agents out. We got to take up guns. This is what you're seeing. Oh, he's just an isolated incident. Really?

Along with Free Luigi, along with Panamaing the murder of Charlie Kirk, along with mocking the murder of Charlie Kirk. By the way, it wasn't all condemnable. Some of it's laughable. Plain laughable. Take a look at Grand Tifa. Grand Tifa was a part of it.

People pointed out that a lot of these No King's protest across the country were actually gray hairs. Greyhairs, boomers, boomers who sit around and watch cable news, I guess, who are now retired, have nothing better to do. And some of them branding themselves, as you can see here, Grand Tifa, grandpops against fascism, grandmoms against fascism, grandfifah on the streets of America. At least it was, by the way, the streets. America. You see, the joke behind this entire no-kings rally is kind of exposed when you talk about it wasn't just America. It actually took place as well in Canada. And they couldn't call it no kings in Canada, you see. I couldn't call it that because, of course, they're under the subject of the crown, at least nominally colonial attachment to the UK. So they can't call it no kings

for fear out of offending King Charles. So would they call it in Canada? No tyrants rally. Democrats of odd posted. A few notes. We changed the No King's theme of other events around the world to no tyrants. So it's not to mix messages in a country with a monarchy. We're also swapping out no crowns in favor of no clowns. Come dressed up as Trump. Clown, D.T. himself or one of his cronies.

Think big bad blonde wig. Orange face, long red tire, whatever gets your creative juices flowing. No tyrants. Because we have actually a king in Canada. What actually are you protesting? What actually are you against? The Constitutional Republic that democratically elected Donald Trump twice? Not a king, because I don't want to offend King Charles.

What are you protesting specifically? The authoritarian use of presidential power under the executive branch of the United States of government of America? Deporting illegal immigrants? Enforcing the actual law, laws voted upon democratically? What actually are you doing? Well, in some part, the failed theater kids were, they were dancing. That's what you got in no kings. But you're tempted not to take it seriously, even if you're attempted to dismiss some of these

more extreme examples as simply extreme anecdotes or the dancing you're attempted to laugh. It's actually much more serious because you had Bernie Sanders, Senator. You had Chris Murphy's senator. Taking the same stage as Medi Hassan, Medi Hassan has been platformed by the likes of MSNBC, Muslim immigrant to the United States of America, now avowed socialist. But in his whole entire life, Medi Hassan has said things like basically Christians and white people were chattel, compared them to farm animals like cows. totally wants to disrupt and overturn the system of government

while saying he wants to do so under the power of democracy. Medea San is a despicable figure in public discourse in America. And there sharing the stage with him are elected senators from Massachusetts or rather from Connecticut and Vermont. And the thing is, that's what really matters. Is I'm not as concerned, I am concerned, but I'm not as concerned about

the odious school teacher from Chicago, Panama and Charlie Kirk's murder, because I have to tell myself, I have to believe that person is one in a hundred still. That person is, they exist, but surely they're not representative, right? I mean, we're having this debate. Yes, we see the charts.

We see the polling, the surveys, that increasing numbers of the left accept political violence as a form of protest. But surely, not still, right? Not that kind of behavior. Not these signs. That's not the majority of the left. And then finally, the one that I waved off from Two A Days Day in a moment ago, this video, which just kills me.

Why? I'm going to tell you why, because here is another gray-haired boomer, this time, like in a designer hat and a designer sweater. And she's given an interview to a conservative journalist. And she's all smiles and nice, placid demeanor. She's all presentability. You see this lady. You probably see her in the Hamptons. You probably see her on the Upper East Side. She's in some rich neighborhood of every city in America.

You know? You know this lady. She can't keep her politics hidden for long. She wants to talk about what she saw on Morning Joe. But deep down, underneath the designer clothes and the Botox smile, just beneath the surface, somewhere below. That microdre durs, what do you call it? Microderm abrasion. Is that what it is?

When you make your skin glowing right underneath there. Dr. Drew nodded, yes. A pockmarked ugliness. A pockmark ugliness that reveals itself. Only, it only takes a minute. Only takes a minute. Here she is under her designer hat. Recently with Charlie Kirk being assassinated,

they... It's a piece of garbage. Of course the way we were mean. I am so tired. People saying, oh, but, you know, it's a terrible thing. No, Hitler is dead. I'm glad Hitler's dead. Evil people have no place in my world. He was a hateful human being.

It was disgusting the things that he said and did. I have, you know, I don't have time for that. I'm sorry. I don't have time for that in my world. It's her world. We're just living in it. And you know her because she's not one in a hundred. What I fear is she's 30 and 100.

What I fear is we can laugh at the dancers. We can wave off the murder pantomimers, but we can't walk away from that, which lurks right under the surface. The question is, why does it lurk right under the surface of the human brain? And why is it lurking right under the surface more and more in America? Let's get into that when we come back with Dr. Drew Pinsky on Wilcane Country. Whether you own a bustling hair salon A painting company that just landed a big job Or the hottest new bakery in town

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Of at least some of these people, Dr. Drew, at the No Kings rally. And I want to be fair, I don't want to say that it was everybody because there was a lot of people out there for whatever reason they feel fear of President Donald Trump. But the examples I showed and the ones that scare me the most, Dr. Drew, are the ones that look normal, are the ones you might see at the coffee shop. And then when pressed, just a little, talk about the value of murdering Charlie Kirk. Yeah, crazy. Crazy. And by the way, just, you know, I spend 35 years working in a psychiatric hospital and I ran their addiction program for 20 years. So I had lots of experience in the mental health side of things. And you teed this up pretty well. I thought you were very kind. You were very reasonable. you're very balanced in how you reported on what was going down.

But you're right, the stuff on display that is so disturbing is when people virtue signal, which is the ultimate narcissistic signaling, in such a way as to dehumanize other people. And there's a lot of that these days. And these folks are saying it out loud and they don't even seem to hear themselves. I mean, you're advocating, you're saying a young man with two children and a young wife, You would kill him. You're glad that person is dead. It is a, if they could just for a second stop, they would be disgusted with themselves.

And I also find it interesting that the majority of those clips you played were of women from my generation, not necessarily men. And that in itself is a kind of an interesting thing. What do you take away from that? That is a fascinating observation. What do you take away from the fact that it was not. exclusively, but significantly women. Yeah, I just was, I called Adam Carolla before we went on the air here. And he wrote a book 15 years ago called In 50 Years Will All Be Chicks.

And he picked up on this trend of women in positions of authority, having very little tolerance of anybody that, you know, talks back to them or resists, their attempts at power and control, and that they tend to be exclusively focused on process and conversation, which is an asset. Now, listen, I am guilty. When Adam wrote that book, I told him he was crazy that we need women, it's gonna create a better balance

and their brain is, I've always said, women's brains are superior to men. There's a bigger corpus callosum, they're using more of the emotional system. But it turns out one of the side effects of all that right brain material, is you get very focused on the transmission of culture and very focused on conversation

and very focus on process, which is not the same as problem solving. And so we have a lot of talking going on and very little problem solving. It's really interesting to think about for just a moment. There's an article up right now at Compact Magazine talking about the feminization of America, Dr. Drew. And in it, the statistics are pointed out

that now well over 50% of students in law school, and I believe it is now over 50% of the women in the legal profession, or the people in legal profession, are women. Corporate America has also really reflected that as well. Colleges across the country, in many cases, or something like 55, 60% women. Now, what does that mean? Well, it means that at some of the higher levels of corporate structure and one could argue then some of the higher levels of professionalization we're seeing increasing feminization now is that bad or is that good the article points out dr drew that women are consensus driven as you point out process oriented right is good um which is considered an asset but then it becomes difficult to solve a problem and do things that are unpopular

except there seems to be a finite or terminal point in consensus building, wherein if you're incapable of winning the art of persuasion, now you turn to what we're seeing in these protests, some sort of irrational embrace of violence, which is against one of their core tenets as well, which is prioritizing empathy over, for example, justice. So I'm curious about what perversion takes place where the process then turns into intolerance and even embrace of violence. Right. So you're looking at my generation here, the boomers.

Christopher Lash wrote a book called The Culture of Narcissism, where he saw this coming in our generation. And he was absolutely right. We may have actually shifted from narcissism now to borderline features in our... I talked to an expert on this the other day, and he was convinced that we're moving off of the narcissistic phase into a borderline phase, which, again, has liabilities and assets associated with it. But this notion of, sorry if I care.

You don't care like I care. I've not met anybody that doesn't care. Everybody cares. Everybody wants to create a better life for all of us, this idea that only you have a magical insight where only you and the people you are involved with magically know the one and only way and everybody else, sorry, doesn't care. That's a bizarre statement. Everybody cares. They hate Donald Trump. Donald Trump wants a better world for all the same people they're worried about. He wants things to get better. And what was the other question you asked? I'm sorry. I didn't. Oh, the other thing was that their rationalization, the way the human brain works is we feel a certain way first. There's a lot of feeling and sort of motivational impulses that come on before consciousness, before we start thinking. And our thinking, more often than not, becomes an attempt to rationalize

our more primitive feeling states that often can't be rationalized. Yes. Well, explain the difference between narcissism and borderline. So these are all narcissistic disorders. Narcissism, really the big liability. So the liability of narcissism, let's just talk about it, you know, where it goes wrong, is that you can lose empathy. Again, this is what we're seeing writ large. No empathy for Charlie Kirk, only empathy for me, I guess, for you, or whatever. So no empathy for Charlie Kirk and envy. So there tends to be a discomfort with competition because that person wins. I'm going to feel envious and I want to destroy them.

So they have a lot of narcissistic rage and they move themselves away from it and yet it comes out. You saw it slipping out all the time yesterday. And by the way, you know, the demonstrations, no disagreement with almost anything they were saying other than the violence and the lack of empathy. empathy which was hey no kings yeah we're all on board with that everybody everybody's on board with that so what is it what is it you're doing what is it you want you ask that question what is it you want and that is one of the things i've said about demonstrations for last 10 years they seem to have some idealization of demonstrations as this important um expression but i was around in the 60s and the 70s and here's what we were doing we first of all the word love was everywhere

remember the summer of love we didn't talk about hate we talked about love all the time. We want love not war, make love not war. It was a very different vibe. And there was explicit and clear goals out of Vietnam now, civil rights amendment now. That's it. And when we got out of Vietnam, good. We're done here. Yeah, it's as opposed to this amorphous, no kings, no tyrants, no authoritarian, for a man that's democratically elected twice. I know the argument. I know what they're saying. They're saying he's misusing presidential authority in an authoritarian way. But I want to stay on this feminization thing for one more moment, because I find this absolutely fascinating. Now, anyone listening who says that's absurd would point out that, you know,

most of the atrocities of history were committed by men. Stalin, Hitler, every instance were committed by men. And the argument, you name it. And the argument is always made. Well, we need. women in power because I think Hillary Clinton has even said this aloud. We need women in power because they don't do the things that men do. But I do think you have to rationalize these women, these women, and these are not leaders. These are just, and I think that's even scarier, by the way, that they're just, they're women, again, that you see walking around the Hamptons who were talking like this. And by the way, I think we've moved, I don't know about the narcissism to borderline thing, just because I don't know clinical definitions as well.

But it occurred to me when you're talking, we've moved from virtue signaling to vice signaling. and their vice signaling. They're now showing the worst of themselves. And I don't know if they can see themselves or not, but they seem proud of their vice. Yes. And that's the narcissistic rage. But back to, I didn't define the borderline for you. The borderline is a dysregulation, very creative.

And so there can be some assets associated with it. But a lot of dysregulation, a lot of hysteria. As we move, you see, we've become very hysterical as a country. And, you know, I've been looking at the French lately with a big. a bit of jealousy because they have been, women have been a feature of leadership and political process in that country for 150 years. And it has a very different feel to it. It really is, it really is about solving problems, not just about cherry picking things that make you feel good. In L.A. County, in L.A. City here, we have someone who is on the city council who said,

geez, we're having this outbreak of the catalytic converters being taken out of people's cars and stolen. We got to condemn Toyota. They made it too easy to be stolen. Mind you, you have to jack the car up and come up with a saws all or a, you know, a torch to get the thing out, but it's too easy. So, and then no follow up, no concern, no, oh, bad on me. I got that one wrong. wrong. We'll have to do something else. No, no adjustment, no follow-up and no, again, no attempt to get at things getting better. It's really kind of a problem. Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation. We've got to get even deeper with Dr. Drew Penske on Will Kane country. You know, last point on this feminization, which I want to think about more, and I want to explore more here. Read out of his book. Is that it was 15 years ago. I will. He's a

He saw it coming, and he was spot on about it. I argued with him back then. I'm like, come on, old man. And now he's like, I've told you. I told you this is what it's going to be. And it's not good. You don't build the Golden Gate Bridge that way. You build a, you build the train, the fast train we have here in this state where not one track gets laid down.

You know, I had this conversation on Friday with Jack Brewer, who is a very, very, very, very, and thoughtful Christian. And I've been talking about this privately, but the, you know, as a Christian, what I would describe is the feminization of the leadership of Christianity. Now, I had a viewer right in, Will, don't talk like that. That validates so many things from the left. I'm a woman and I'm a Christian. But this is where we have to do that thing where, as you're described, we've got to set aside our emotions for just a moment. So I know how that makes you feel emotionally. If you're a woman and you're listening, I know how that makes you feel. I'm asking you to set that aside for a moment.

And, well, here's what. If you go to a church, and it's the vast majority of churches in America today, and you listen to the sermon, you listen to the pastor, what you'll often hear is just a completely empathy-driven message. And what's lacking is justice and judgment. Well, the Bible is nothing, if not, often, primarily about justice and judgment. Living up to the judgment of God, that's not that each of us are God and past judgment, but we use judgment. We have to use judgment. That's how we don't die of food poisoning because we have the ability to discern and judge rotten food from healthy food. It should be the same for morality and behavior.

My point of this isn't that empathy is worthless. Empathy is part of the equation, but increasingly it's become the only prism through which we view empathy and tolerance, Christianity. And I would apply that writ large to America as well. So when I say the church has become feminized, or we're talking about America being feminized, what I'm asking someone to do is set aside the emotional reaction of suggesting feminization is all bad. It's not, but we're not balanced to your point. And that's why there's been this whole push of masculinity. There needs to be a rebalancing. Masculity has to come back into the church. It has to come back into the message. And it has to come back into corporate

America, the legal profession, and it has to come back into the culture of America. And we have a lot of 25 to 35 year old males who are really in trouble. And they are worthy and good and should be supported and should be helped to thrive. And I hear a lot from all of them, something that we did not do in my day when I was that age, which was tell me what to do. They're looking for both spiritual guidance and career guidance and life guidance. How do you get traction? How do you get inspired? What should I be doing? That is a new phenomenon. Back in my day, we were like, we don't want anything to do with you guys. We're going to find our own way. And this is not that.

They are, we have locked them down. We have mistreated them. We've told them they're worthless. We have given them no opportunities. And guess what? It worked everybody. They're now drifting. And they need us.

And they need to be supported. There's a rich, rich supply of talent there. And I think culture and religion, everything is based upon this balancing act between the masculine and the feminine. We are a pair. We are a partnership for. a reason, because we bring things to each other that are of value that the other is missing. And right now, it's feeling like the masculine contribution to that partnership is being described as toxic.

And maybe that's why I take a look. I've been talking about this, Dr. Rue, this is fascinating. Birth rates in Europe are a huge, huge story in and of themselves, okay? We've also talked about birth rates in America. But I haven't seen it broken down by political ideology, which is really, really fascinating. This was in the Financial Times. The average birth number of children born to people of different political ideologies, okay? Conservative has gone down, but it's only gone down from about 2.7 to 2.6, 2.5.

So you're still above replacement rate for conservatives, right? Progressive birth rates have plummeted from the same. Right there with conservatives, this is in 1980. In 1980, they were right together. So we're talking about over a 40-year time frame here. Progressives have dropped from 2.7 to below 1.8, well below replacement level. and globally, by the way, it's even worse. Globally, they've dropped to about 1.6 progressives and having children.

The left, not having kids, Dr. Drew. Well, if you're convinced that the world is coming to an end because people swept you into hysteria that clearly we're already 20 years past the deadline, yeah, I understand that might make you not want to reproduce. If you also hate men or devalue families and don't see any utility. Children, it's the weirdest thing.

People need to think about... Or may I offer just as a connection to our previous conversation, prioritize career above family building. Yeah, right. And that's what that is. And that's fine. I mean, that's good that I want people, but you better maintain, you better be realistic about your fertility.

You know, fertility technologies now can really help and go do that. But if you, but they're not doing that either. They really are just not seeing value. I, you got to, we have to really think about why humans are here and what our purpose is that, again, the young males need inspiration for meaning making and all of us, you know, really the fundamental reason we're here is to push our genes forward. I mean, that's just keep the, keep the species going. That is ultimately what we're here for it. But beyond that, we're here for meaning making and thriving and helping each other. And we can do that, but we have to really inspire people and pay it. attention and not be so hateful. There's hate. Remember, I said in 1968, the summer of love, it was kind of a beat to be having been there again. It was sort of an empty vapid time. Let's be let's be clear. But at least there was an attempt to be positive that it was all about you know, getting along and having a Coke. You know, the Don Draper song.

Yeah. Hey, I'm going to throw a curveball at you really quickly. I've got two people. periods in time, and I know you love your history, and I know you've studied the French Revolution, which this isn't tied to that. So these are complete curveballs. You know, it just just popped into my head. Two periods in time that I'm fascinated by right now, and they are sort of, one is a great leap forward for humanity, and one is the great separation of humanity. So, undeniably, something happening in the 1800s for humanity. We saw an explosion in population, an explosion in wealth, in standard of living. We saw explosion in basically everything. We saw explosion in basically every verifiable metric chart

of humanity. And it's easy to point go industrial revolution. It's industrial evolution. It's technological advancement in so many ways. Fertilizer, crop expansion, and so forth. That accelerated probably after World War II where it continued at even a greater pace. Dr. Drew, you know, there's something coming out and they've hinted at it about aliens. I don't know if you've seen this new

report on aliens coming out, but there are people who say, well, somewhere along the line, we were granted some technology. Right. But what's interesting about it is, I'm not dismissing that, and I'm not endorsing it. But if you look at humans, like over a long, long arc, prosperity, everything, population, it's pretty stagnant for like thousands of years. And then in a very, very quick and short period of time over the last 200 years, 150 or 200 years, explosion. Yes. Why? Well, I mean, that, by the way, that tends to be the way biological systems.

operate. They're flat, flat, flat, flat. And then they became asymptotic. There's a tumors, for instance. You can't see them. You can't see them. All of a sudden, it's a cannonball. That is just the way biology operates. But what you're pointing at is what were the forces that we're keeping things down. You know, there's a lot of advances in health care and sanitation and things that allowed us to live longer, reproduce more and get through child years, you know, people would die in childbirth and died during infancy and died during their child years. I always laugh at people that go back to their, you know, to these regression analysis. Nobody goes back to being a child that died in childhood or infancy, because that would be the vast, vast, vast majority of you. That's what happened.

So, you know, there was a lot of features simultaneously, I would say, that came together. But you said you're interested in the Great Leap Forward, the Mao thing, the Great Leap Forward? No, it's not the Great Leap Forward, but the timing is going to be a little bit similar. By the way, you've made a great point. Life expectancy and health outcomes, also something that just exploded over the same time frame. And I think that's worthy of deep exploration. No, it's not Mao's greatly forward. In the 1970s, if you look at charts on wealth, I think it's really fascinating. We kind of grew together, everybody, and then we split in the 70s. And one thing I'm going to say, the left is right about the difference between the wealthy and the poor and

increasingly the wealthy in the middle class. And I think it's a real source of concern. It should be. It's one of the things that I thought was good about Donald Trump, his acknowledgement and willingness to try to address that. But if you look at it, after, it started in the early 1970s. And it's like, why? Again, why what? And I think a really thing to point to, by the way, is the gold standard. Yes, that's what a lot of people point at. And I just saw a little presentation by Richard David Hanson, is that I'm getting his first name right, where he was saying, this happened in Rome, this happened in Rome, too. And you need to read, read that there are overt examples of everything in Rome that we're going through now, including gender

issues, denying reality, process addiction, you know, all this stuff that we're doing has happened, of course, has happened before. Oh, fascinating. I need to, I need to read that as well. Okay, there's Adam Carolla, Victor Davis Hanson. I think he said, I think he said Tacitus. I think you Read Tacitus, I think, is what he said. It was the post-Republic, the period where there were 12 Caesars in succession. You know, when things get good, we go off the rails as humans. We need something holding us together, something to focus on. If it's things that are too easy and too good, we're prone to self-destruction, frankly.

All right, Dr. Drew, always great. always love having it's always a deep deep conversation with dr drew you can listen to him without me by the way at ask dr drew or health uncensored with dr drew and i always appreciate it thanks for your time dr drew as well appreciate him see you soon all right drew pinsky here a will cane country by the way president trump posted a video i want to i want to play it for you because it's been a source of a little bit of divide talk about a divide here in the country of course two a days dan has some thoughts on it to differ from me and tinfoil pap but we're also going to have to talk To Bear Grills. That's right. The host of Manverse Wild, the noted adventurer, now has a book called The Greatest Story ever told on the Life of Jesus Christ. When we come back, Bear Grills on Will King Country.

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you're a member of the Willisia that will bring you into the show. Make sure you follow us on Spotify or on Apple. He is the author of a new book, The Greatest Story Ever Told. You know him, of course, from Manverse Wild and many other shows. He's noted adventure, Bear Grills,

and he's in our New York City studios, and he joins us now. What's up, Bear? Hey, how are you doing? Nice to be with you. Nice to be with you as well. By the way, I didn't know that. Patricia in the comment section says she just found out last month about your religious devotion. I didn't know that either.

And that's not your fault, nor is it ours, because you've been famous for other reasons, your military service, your adventurers and your television shows. But I think with your new book, that's something all of us are learning about you, Bear. Yeah, I think faith has always been just a quiet. empowering part of my life through through my military time through many expeditions through all the TV journey and all the survival stuff and my own family life it's just I never feel particularly kind of religious as such but I learned long ago that to quietly bow the knee bend the knee and ask for help every day and say sorry for things and say thank you is a really

good way to start the day. I always used to see my grandfather do that. I remember him. He was six foot six, giant of a man. And yet, even as an old man, I just remember him kneeling down beside his bed every night. And I don't know, I love that. I think faith is a beautiful thing to have in life. And also a humble thing to have. You know, I think a lifetime of adventures taught me that on my own, I'm not strong. You know, everyone thinks they're strong in the wild until and not, and then on your own, I don't think you're ever truly empowered. So I look at it as like part of the arsenal of survival for life, you know, with physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual. So that light has been a beautiful thing in my life and it continues. I'm curious,

is there a moment, either in your service or in your adventures, where that need to call on him, to call on something higher was most profound? Most days. You know, I think it's not just the, I don't know, I look back to, I look back to Everest, I think, in particular, though. You know, that was such a life-changing time for me. We had four climbers lose their lives up there. We had two die to the cold, two fell to their death.

And, you know, we're on that mountain a long time, some three and a half months in total. And I don't know. I always remember I just had a little verse. I always kept laminated in the soul of my shoe that says, be sure of this, I'm with you, even to the ends of the earth. And I don't know, that's my faith. I keep it pretty simple.

I hold on to a few basic things. And it's definitely helped me there. But it's also helped me so much in just in everyday life. And I think it's one of the reasons I wrote this book is I realize so few people know the real story of Jesus, you know. And myself included, I always grew up with a really. sanitized version of it. He was always very meek and mild and nice and long robes. And a few years ago, I took a small team, motorbikes, tents, parachutes. We traveled through Israel. And I wanted to kind of redo the journey of Christ to go to all the places. And at the end of that, I just kind of

thought, why is it that everyday people just seem to love this guy? All they want to do is be with him, touch the hem of his cloak, you know, be near him. And yet the religious elite feared him so much. And it was just so different to the Jesus that I'd kind of grew up with. And then I realized nobody's ever really written a book that just tells this real unsanitized story of Jesus. You know, theoretically accurate, but just told as a thriller. Because so few of us read the Bible, even those of us for faith, it's hard. And we tend to know stories like the Good Samaritan. or the crucifixion, but not the whole story and how it impacts our lives. Back to the book in just one moment, the greatest story ever told.

That trip you took following the life of Jesus. I'm curious, tell me a little more about that. How long did that trip take? Where did you go? Well, it was interesting. We actually filmed it the week before October the 7th two years ago. So it was like super poignant timing, but we did it for a TV show called Refugee, Renegade, and that was the goal of it to try and tell the real story what was he really like why you know

why was he such a central figure to life ever since the last 2,000 years what was it really about this guy away from the religion that we sort of learn about and and it did really well we did that on tb and that when it was our number one show of last year and and but it was a kind of passion project for me you know i still do my day job we're still filming just finished filming season nine of running wild which I love and you know that's the day job but this faith stuff is always been in my heart and doing this book it's been transformative for me in the sense that I've never had a response to anything I've ever done that's been as powerful as this and I get people first of all the book went straight in at number one and I have people all over the world of all different

face and cultures write to me and just say basically the same thing which is I had no idea of actually what the story of Christ is about and how it relates to my life. And that's been the great privilege. It's not saying my story. It's saying his story or history, as they say. So, yeah, I'm really proud of it. Hardest thing I've ever done, but the best thing. So you wrote it in first person from the perspective, I believe, of, is it five?

Five different people in Jesus's life who sort of share him through their experience in their eyes. Is that right? Yeah, so I thought, I'm just going to write it from the people who knew him best, from their perspective, what it was actually like. And everyone had such a different interaction with him, is what I learned. I mean, one of the things I did was read the Bible the whole way through a couple of times. And we worked with some top theologians from the TV show The Chosen, who were incredible, helped me make sure we get everything right. But it was so interesting just learning how everyone reacted, had such a unique experience of encountering this man. And so I thought, let's just do it from their perspective.

So we start off with his mother, you know, young, pregnant, out of wedlock, nervous, like, must be so daunting to have angels appear and say you're going to give birth to a child. Yeah, you've never slept with anyone. You're going to give birth to a child who's going to be the son of God. I'll be like, hot on, hot on. Yeah, and then we go to Thomas, who's, you know, super skeptical of this Jesus that he meets, just going, I'm not going to be tricked by some water into wine. no you know and his journey and then peter who was just like all in impulsive like raw wild unreligious

and john and eventually then with mary maglin who's his young broken girl who Jesus transformed her life and i think what was so telling for me is i always sort of the disciples are like these big bearded old men you know it's how we kind of see them don't we in paintings and all of that but actually those that hung out with them those disciples who of course are one of even called disciples. He's just band of rough misfits, regular people from a border town up north where average age of 15 to 25, super young, like no idea really what's going on. And slowly over the course of these years, realizing they were in the presence of the Savior of the world. And it's that part of the story that has moved me so much and helped me so much in my faith to

understand that you don't have to be anything. You can have doubts. They had doubts. I mean, 98% of their story with him is of doubt. Every encounter doubt. Right. And I found that reassuring because I come from a place of like, can it really be real? And then time and time again, little things happen, that light inside and I hold on to those moments. And talk about adventurers, those disciples then scatter to the ends of the known earth at the time, whether or not it's Spain or wherever, carrying the message, obviously against great danger into foreign lands and this type of thing. And it would be easy after Jesus' death in a way to kind of like float, you know, to disappear, to go back to another life that you had.

Instead, they become the guys that spread Christianity to the known earth. Well, they did initially go back to what they were doing, you know, after in the aftermath of that last week and then his torture and crucifixion. They fled and they eventually all end up going back up north to their hometowns and terrified. It was only after he came back from the dead and he started appearing to them and eating with them and then appearing to not just ones and twos and tens and 50s but hundreds of eyewitness testimonies. That something that transformed their lives and in a way part of the book that people seem to love us at the end where I say at the end what happened as you say to all

of those disciples how they went to all these incredible areas around the world and they all died for their faith all apart from one we're all martyrs stone skinned crucified speared burnt you know stoned and uh something must have driven i mean you don't do that if you know it's a lie or you're kind of maybe you saw a ghost or you know something happened right and that part i find intriguing You said you kind of, and I think you're not alone, as you point out, whether or not it's the paintings and the images in church and just a popular story telling, you know, had this vision of Jesus as this, this meek guy, the Good Samaritan story kind of defines our image of Jesus. But you said, you know, that's where you start. You write this book. What's your image of Jesus at the end of after writing the greatest story ever told? A wild one. A truly a wild one. And it's interesting. seeing like seeing initially the Pharisees revulsion of Jesus was that he hung out with a low

life and the prostitutes and the rejected and the tax collectors who were so despised and they accused him publicly have been a glutton and a drunkard you know this wasn't the Jesus that I grew up with knowing and that was intriguing for me so and at the end of it it's like what's my feeling I think comes back to his name for me yes you I mean I call him Yeshua by his Aramaic name through the book because I want people to find this the story afresh with no filter of like this is what I think it's about. So everything is local names and places. But at the end of it, his name, I mean, Jesus and Yeshua, the translation is he who saves. And I love that. You know, he didn't come to make us more religious or to make us this or do this

or behave like that. Be nice on a Sunday. You know, he just came to seek and save the lost. and I think that's a, it's a beautiful moment to reach in life. I mean, life, full stop is very humbling. All of us at some point, it's a humbling process. Sometimes it takes to our deathbed, but life is humbling. And I think it's a beautiful place to reach of strength to be able to, you know, kneel down and say that. And again, it comes back to my grandpa. He always says, man is never as tall as when he kneels down.

And I love that. the book is the greatest story ever told about bear grills i want to take the last couple minutes i'd love to talk to you just for a minute about adventure um far be it for me to ever paint myself as any type of adventure belonging in the same conversation with you bear but here we are and um any any adventure that i've done or any that i want to do always has something deeper than just the physical accomplishment or even deeper than the test so it's a story And there's a story that I buy into. For example, these are two that I haven't done that I want to.

I would love to canoe the Mississippi River and take the path in the Missouri of Lewis and Clark because I love the story of Westward expansion in America. There's a book that I love called Lonesome Dove. I love to ride horses up the Old West Cattle Trails through Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, even further north if you could. I'm curious in all the adventures that you've done, like what, I don't know if you feel the same. You know, a lot of them, I'm sure, about the physical test and learning something about yourself and these types of things. But I'm curious if any of them have a story or an emotional connection that you felt compelled to do that stand out. Beyond the one you just shared with this, by the way, of going to Israel.

Yeah, I think adventure, first of all, you are an adventure spirit. Good for you. Don't belittle that. That's incredible. And you must follow those dreams because those are golden and I'd love to hear how those go. You will do it, I'm sure. But I do think adventures a state of mind It's how we live our lives It's not just out there

It's in here as well It's how we approach life and risk And relationships and work and family So I think that adventure spirit is so important I think the wild changes us all Is never a physical thing You know physical is part of it And the wild sort of batters us down a little bit

Sometimes and ask some questions And challenges us But that's part of it But it also heals our heart And I always always remember a little quote that says there's always music in the wild but sometimes the hearts must be quiet to hear it and you know that's so that's what it is for me it's like that it's connection it's why i like to be barefoot a lot of the times as well and i like just i'm happy on my own

i love running wild as well i take one other Hollywood star those shows are a privilege and it's the same reason why do these people do the show they don't need the money or the fame they want that pride in their heart that connection that healing that kind of confidence that only the outdoors can build when you face some battles and overcome it so for me it's always about that the wild is always a star it does my job for me opens people up and gives them that sense of pride and long may that continue beyond the tv shows you know it's always going to be a part of my life always has been since i was a boy been taught to climb by my dad you know so uh it's not just something i do it's kind of it's deeper than that it's in the

DNA and it's music, music to me. Running Wild, matching a celebrity to an adventure. How does that work? Does a celebrity, I'm sure they have input. Do you come up with it and you try to match it? You know, I don't know, this guy or this gal would be great for this adventure and then you pitch it to them? Or how do you match them, adventure and star?

We don't match them. We just plan the adventure and invite the stars. And like, you know, we always say come on your own. They don't get any input in it. I mean, they get no input. It's like, come on your own, leave the entourage, trust the process. And we keep it super fluid. We take a small team.

I'll plan a route from the air by the helicopter the day before. I'll listen to the local search and rescue guys. We'll know there's a river there. Be careful. It's some flood. Some great cliffs, crumbling rock. These animals. You know, we'll get an overview of it.

And then we take a small team and we're going to have a loose plan, but we always adapt it to how the guests is doing. and whether how tired they are or how much they want to push it and like a rubber band you can always stretch and shrink accordingly but again we just have a buddy buddy adventure and and like I say the wild does my job it opens people up it helps them to be honest we sit around that campfire and chat in the evening but first of all you've got you've got to face a few battles you know you got it's different to a chat show you know you're cold you're wet you're hungry you're super proud of yourself when you overcame this and then you're ready to

to talk about stuff as well. So it's a sort of neat combination. And for me, it's timeless because there's always another star and another story. And I think when guests come and they're honest about their journeys, and as you know, with all of our journeys, it's never the highlights. It's the struggles and the battles that make all of our stories. And I think that's the magic of Running Wild. Well, it's the ninth season of Running Wild.

But the book and the reason he's here today is the greatest story ever told about the life of Jesus. I know you have multiple interviews you're doing today at Fox News, so I appreciate you hanging out with us for a good 15, 20 minutes, Bear. It's great to know you. Can't wait to check out the book. Thank you. Oh, you're a good man. And keep doing. You respect all you're doing.

Shining the light. Come on. Well, done. Thank you. Thank you so much. There he goes. Bear Grills. Which, by the way, I have the book, and I have begun it,

and it is fascinating to see Jesus through the eyes of others. And I encourage you to check it out, the greatest story ever told. I'm going to bring in just a moment. moment two of days, Dan and tinfoil path. They got to get bare out of that studio, which is looking good up in New York City. It's been a redesign, and it's looking nice up there. That doesn't mean I'm going back. I'm situated here in Dallas. I've even put new stickers up today, Scott. New stickers on the on the board behind me. Yeah, a little TCU action going on the board. I've got to get some longhorns, and even though that was a really, really embarrassing

performance against Kentucky on Saturday. But, on the other hand, How about them cowboys? Tenfoil, Pat, two a day's dad. How about them cowboys? I mean, that's the best offense in the NFL. Just give it to me, just give it to me, Tinfoil. You know it to be the case. That's the best offense in the NFL, and Dak Prescott is no doubt in the MVP conversation.

Quit saying I'm a homer and just admit that it's true, tinfoil. Get that ugly look off your face. You are riding this, Matt, you're like a roller coaster, okay? Three weeks ago, it was, oh, the Cowboys are great. the longhorns suck oh and then the longhorns beat Oklahoma you go up oh but the cowboys lose oh no and then and then this week it's you're inverted and I don't know what to see these back by week Jake Ferguson looks great oh my gosh George Pickens Jake Ferguson Jvante Williams I might be a fan now what's happened 44 points I know

and by the way tin foil by the way two days we can do this you rather live on a roller coaster like me or be constantly in the dumps like pat like which is better at least my ride goes up every once in a while you know it'll give me some grace but i'm hoping i'm hoping for the best part which is a coaching search like we're getting at that point where we're going to fire our guy you know have a little more hope you know going forward who knows we're in a good place talking about florida state now not the jags we found our guy We need to talk about that this week because we did it. We did it on Friday with Casey Smith of Barstool.

We talked about the coaching search, which at that time included Penn State and Arkansas and who's going to end up being the – it's going to be the wildest coaching carous carousel in years in college football. And then over the weekend, Florida fires their head coach. Now we have Florida in the running as well, and it's going to be wild. It's going to be – and they're going to trade around, by the way. You know, like James Franklin's going to end up at one of these other big programs. And I don't know if SMU can hang on to Rhett Lashley, but he's going to be involved in all these things.

And as we talked to Casey Smith about, I hope the Aggies can hang on to Mike Elko because there's going to be a lot of programs looking for new coaches. But we need to do that later this week. But I want to do this. I want to do this in final take. So hit the sounder, two a day's final takes. Final take. All right. This is a source of a little bit of debate over the weekend here on Wilcane country, mostly over our group text chain.

President Donald Trump posted this during the No King's Rally, okay? We don't need sound, don't have sound, but you can see the AI generated video of President Donald Trump taking off in an F-16. Hold on. There's still sound on it. One second. But we should not do the sound so we don't get flagged. Exactly. Give me one second. Oh. What's illegal about the sound? Well, we'll get danger zone Who does danger zone?

Oh Kenny Loggins Yeah, I think Kenny Loggins will be A little upset There we go, here we go Here's just the video Kenny Loggins wouldn't like it

Oh Okay All right so here it is Do na da dun No No, don't Riders to the Danger Zone

Oh, I can't do that either No Oh He takes off in an F-16 And he drops out of the underbelly of the plane, the bomb. Poop. A lot of poop on the no king's rally.

Just poop. I think that's Harry Sisson. It's supposed to be in the AI. And the plane says King Trump on it. He's wearing a crown. So funny. Come on, Dan. Come on.

Dan wants to, okay, everybody, Dan wants to argue that it's violent, it's violent political rhetoric. That's what you put in the text chain, right, Pat? So let's put him on the clock, give him 30 seconds, get ready for the audience to love you. Go ahead, Dan. No, no, no, I know. I'll be so hated. No, it's just funny because I saw that. My first thought was like, you know what?

I wonder if Will think this is violent rhetoric as well on the right. You know, he's in a military weapon. Why would I think? He's dropping something on a specific crowd of people against him. You know, he's, it just, it screams violent rhetoric. I don't know how you don't see it. Dan, it's poop. Dan.

So what? That could kill someone? That could kill someone from that high? Are you kidding me? God, that is dangerous. Now you're trying to make light of it. That's dangerous. Don't you, it's like a CIA technique.

He's now making his own argument sound absurd, but he truly actually does believe that this contributes to the violent rhetoric in America. I don't think it contributes to violent rhetoric in America. I think you could point to this. and say this is something violent that Trump is portraying on his feed that a president maybe should or shouldn't do, is all I'm saying. You think it's violent. You think this is violent. Using a military jet? Yeah, sure. You know, I wonder. On his own people? To drop poop? That's dangerous, man. The bacteria? Come on. Think about it.

Good hepatitis. That is true. That is true. You're going to get sick. That's true. It's nasty. I'll give you that. It's nasty. When AI, Harry's assistant has to wipe it off of his face, you're like, oh, my God. I have a question for you, Willow. When I sent that text, where you're like, wow, Dan is really serious that he thinks is violent rhetoric. I still think you are. I still think you are. I thought it then and I think it now. I think I think you are a little bit like Andrew Schultz and Theo Vaughn and maybe Joe Rogan that something has changed over the past six months I'm not saying you were pro-Trump I don't think you ever were but you were much more sympathetic to the arguments made by for example me or tin full Pat

and something has changed and I've felt it in the air in the climate have you felt it as well Pat something has changed and you now feel like I don't know what you feel but I'm feeling tension That's what I'm feeling. He's concerned. He's concerned about the Kings. He's, are you concerned?

Are you no Kings? No. I think it's, I think it's ridiculous. I mean, that premise is ridiculous. It does not get across what they're trying to do. So no. Okay, but there's something that you're concerned about. Let me go through the list of the possibilities.

It could be the economy doing pretty well, you know, in spite of the predictions of the tariffs and the tariff revenue coming in. It could be the peace deal between Gaza and. Israel. I'm not really sure that could be setting you off. And, you know, it's going to be touch and go on that one. I recognize Hamas is not participating in a peace deal very well. It could, it could be the closure of the border. No more illegals coming or very few coming across the southern border. Or it could be enforcing the deportation laws, which have been on the books for decades and doing simply what they did during Cheech and Chong movies, La Migra, La Migra. I cannot figure out what it is. It's gone so wrong. You guys want to hear a story? here's a story all right so I go to my kids soccer game this weekend right I'm going to tell this story I don't even give a damn

I go to my kid's soccer game this weekend right and at the same time my older son's old team is there he's not on the team anymore and I got I'm going to say hi I'm going to say hi so I went over saw all the parents

we're friends hey what's up how you doing yeah yeah da yada yada yada I saw another parent okay guy's an immigrant from Russia, by the way, immigrant from Russia. And I walk over, and I stick my hand out. And he's like putting his chair up, right? Don't put this on the social media, Ellie.

He's putting his chair up, right? And he's holding it with two hands. And I stick my hand out. Hey, what's up? And he doesn't stick his hand back out. And I'm like, oh, he's got it. He's doing his chair. And so I go, you got a free hand?

And he goes, not for you. not for you. And I'm like, what? He goes, I, and then he says, I see what you say. I hope you believe what you say. Wow. I'm like, I believe everything I say. Yeah.

And then he says, I've already lost one country. Now I'm afraid I've lost two. And I'm trying to figure out what's so bad in America that you believe you can't shake hands with me. And I asked that to you, Dan. What's so bad? Well, I could defer to Jesse Tarloff, who had a pretty great rant about it that went pretty viral last week, but, you know, I don't have to do that. I think we're in our golden age.

I think we are living in the golden age. Here, try this on the size and see if you think I believe what I say. Try this one on your britches. I think they should carve a new mountain, and I've said it, and they should carve Donald Trump into the mountain. I don't think Mount Rushmore. I don't even think he should be on Mount Rushmore. I think we should start a whole new one, like the crazy horse thing in South Dakota. I hope it takes 50 years. Not really. But I want it to be so big that it takes that long to carve into a mountain.

I believe you're looking at the best presidency in 100 years. Are there some pills you should be taking or something? No, that doesn't mean it's perfect. Doesn't mean it's perfect. Doesn't mean it's doing everything right. Because by God, why does everything have to be perfect for it to be the best in 100 years? But I'm really trying to figure out what the existential freak out is here. Like, what is the existential freak out?

resettling trade relationships, creating eight different peace deals across the world, one of which has been intractable for over half a century? What is going wrong? Enforcing the border? Deporting illegal immigrants? What is so bad? This is the golden age of America. Believe that. Dan. Wow. You can end with that? That's great. No, there is a big worry. And I think this goes to the No Kings protest. Again, this is not me. This is things I've heard from people that may or may not have attended that protest, but they're worried about him trying to get in for a third term, that kind of thing, that kind of rhetoric, him joking. I know, I know.

It's crazy. But, you know, people are saying some people are saying. God, we can't live in Never, Neverlandland. Why do people live in Never, Neverland? Seriously, why do people live in? Is this TikTok? Is it MSNBC? What is going on?

How is everybody's brains being eaten by worms? Explain to me how this is happening. Is it X? Where is this happening? Is it Brooklyn during brunch? When is this happening? No, people, they see things that he says, jokes he makes, jokes he makes, maybe, you know, thinks he jokes about. Is the poop plane really worthy of losing your own minds?

He is a troll. And I, if you are, if you are going to take what the president says seriously? No. not in these cases he's the president of the United States which cases are we supposed to know so we have to pick which case everyone has to read Michael Malice

is the new right book I mean like you'll really understand Trump so much better like he's a troll he's just a troll that's what he does sure but when he's got to be serious when do we know I mean well maybe when he's striking eight different peace deals across the globe okay that's fine

that's when you know he's serious that's fine that's great I like that I mean, you can't put the poop video and that on the same level. That's my concern. But he's the same person. He's the same person. He's the same person. I mean, it's like.

He's the president. But this is. Of the United States. This is like saying, yeah, yeah, Tom Brady won all those Super Bowls, double anybody else. Yeah, he's great. But have you noticed that he does Botox? Like, what the hell does it matter? That is not even close.

Yes, that's true. That's true. There's some Botox. There's also all these Super Bowls. They're not of equal weight. Poop video. Gaza. Tom Brady's not president.

Not of equal weight. It's not just, you're obsessed with the small stuff. The small stuff. That's what it is. Y all are obsessed with the small stuff. Yeah, poop video. AI. I'm trying to be overly.

And by the way, if somebody accused you of being, and you do it, Dan, you do it. If somebody accused you of being a hipster all the time, okay? At some point, you'd be like, I am a hipster. At some point, you'd be like, check out my hoodie with my jean jacket. Sure. You would do, you'd lean in just to troll them at some point. And if they call you an authoritarian and a fascist and a king, at some point you're just like, let's just, let's give them what they want, you know?

No, I get it. I think it's pretty funny if it, you know, just happens to be the highest office in the land. I do it. I know you do. You do it to me. You know, when you meet somebody that you think is like sincerely concerned about something absurd, I know. I say something to make them wonder if I actually want, you know, like, like I'll do it. Like, if I meet somebody, I'll be like, man, I can't wait for that Trump third term.

just to see I'm doing it to you right now give them the smoke coming out of their ears I don't think of either you are doing right now I think you guys are both being 100% truthful

yep I'm 100% truthful all the time I never You think I want a third term That's a very awkward place to be for me Yes You want that Trump Will Kane wants third term

For Donald Trump He said it here You think I want a king You think I want a king? Oh 100% Sometimes we need it Yeah Clean the stuff up a little bit

Don't you ever think about this, Dan? This has been a long final take, and that's okay, I'm enjoying it. Donald Trump's almost 80. Like, even if he is an authoritarian... That's what I say. How much longer do you have to... How much longer do you have to legitimately worry about it? Exactly.

That's what I... I had a serious conversation with somebody about this over the weekend after these protests. I'm not saying who and who it was. But I was like, he's... Look at his... He's not going to do that. You don't have to worry about that stuff. Like, vote in the election.

Vote for who you want. You need to worry about a... Was it John Cusat? You need to worry about a 27-year-old... Was it Robert De Niro? Yeah, it was Robert De Niro. You need to worry about a 27-year-old Alexander the Great. That's what you need to worry about.

Sure. Yeah, all right. Well, I got good news for you. There's still no king. All right, that's going to do it for us today here on Will Kane Country. Longest-ended version of Final Takes, but a great conversation with Bear Grill. with Dr. Drew Penske, and we're going to be back again right here in the same place again tomorrow. See you next time.

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