Will Cain Country - Matt Taibbi: Inside The Last Ditch Effort To Stop Trump

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

Story #1: 'Will's Quick Hits': Former President Donald Trump & Vice President Kamala Harris on Joe Rogan? Another embarrassing pro-Walz political ad for men? Can humans overcome "lockstep individualism?" Story #2: Everything has been tried to stop former President Trump from retaking office, from lawfare to assassination attempts? So, what could be left? Inside the last-ditch effort to stop Donald Trump with Racket.News Reporter, Matt Taibbi.  Story #3: Faith, Family, and Football: How one football program is not just putting men into major college football programs, but focuses most importantly on raising good men, featuring Coach and Pastor Denny Duron of the new FOX Nation show God. Family. Football. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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keep ending up all in the same place, Olivia and Liam? Two, almost every bullet literally and figuratively has been fired to stop Donald Trump, from lawfare to assassination. So what's left with 21 days until an election, what's left for an October surprise? The media. Three, how one football program is not just putting men into the NFL, but putting its focus on raising good men. A new Fox Nation series explores God, family, and football. It is the Will Kane Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page.

Terrestrial radio market-to-market across this great United States. of America, but always on demand by simply heading over to Spotify or Apple, hitting subscribe, and listening to the Will Cain Show whenever and however you like. But you can also join us every Monday through Thursday, 12 o'clock Eastern time, by going to the Fox News Facebook page or the Fox News YouTube page, and then heading on over to the Will Cain Show page and hitting subscribe and joining the Willisha. The army of the Will Cain Show needs to be on the lookout, Boys in New York, Tinfoil Patrick. I don't know if you've noticed the standings

and Friends of Will Cain show Fantasy League but somebody's on the march. Somebody's on the march. And he is your fearless leader, the center of the Friends of the Will Cain show. It's Will Cain. I mean, I don't know if you've noticed this, but look at this.

I've gone from dead last to mid-table. I thought you were talking about me. Speaking in soccer terms. That's two days. So here's the thing I've noticed about your team when I've pointed this out. I look up in the standings, and here you are at four and two. And then I look at the total, the point total.

And there's only one team worse than you, Dan. Yeah. There's one team. Yeah. And it's Project 2025. It's Pete Hegg said. The record stands for itself, though. I mean, come on.

Are we going to point out of my points? By the way, young establishment, James, you're right here in striking distance of me. You're right there above me. Look at the points. You mentioned the points. okay so i've done my analysis you there do you know who i think is the best team in our fantasy football league i have one that i think is standing out and no it's not you tinfoil patrick even though you stand atop at five at one literally is uh the most points in the league so yeah

i'm sure andy yeah you do you do have your number one points and you're number one in record but i've done some roster analysis and i think there's one team that's head and shoulders above everybody else. He is the leader in the clubhouse to win Friends of the Will Kane show. Who's that? You think it's Andy McCarthy, two of a days? Yeah.

You think it's... It's Byron Donald's. Former federal prosecutor, Fox News, you think it's Congressman Byron Donald's. Interesting. I don't think it's either of those two. And I don't think it's tinfoil pat. Fascinating.

I think it's A.J. Presensky. Former Major League Baseball grade. He's been making moves in the waiver wire. AJ's team, I looked at it last night. I was like, this is, this team's trouble. He's, he's in good shape. Obviously, Annie McCarthy and Byron Donald's high in the standings as well. But right there is A.J. Prisinski, and I'm telling you, this guy's problem.

He's going to be a problem for all of us. What's up, James? I have an issue with the 14 bench. I'm noticing that, like, when you need to sub somebody out for an injury or for a biweek, like you end up having to get rid of a good player and it causes problems. That's tactics right there. That's how it works. That is, that's the point.

That's the point. I don't like stash and hold fantasy football. I don't like that. I like waiver wire pickups. That's right. Well, we're not going to talk about fantasy football for the entirety of today's show. Instead, we have a big show with a deep conversation with award-winning journalist of racket. Dot News, Matt Taibi today here on the Wilcane show. But first, before we get to that, we're going to go with some quick hits.

The boys are going to throw some stories at me that caught their attention in the news of the last 24 hours and see what I have to say. Let's get into it with story number one. all right here we go quick hits tinfoil pat this could be a mistake but tinfoil pat is going to lead us through on-air emmy award winning personality uh television radio digital personality tinfoil pat is going to take the floor and lead us through some quick hits all right we've got some great stories this week today include it I like the energy. Go. I like it. Don't lose pace. Go. Okay. So we have the Nelk boys. Former President Donald Trump goes on their podcast,

and he announces that he's going to join Joe Rogan. There's also talks that Vice President Kamala Harris will be joining Rogan potentially as well. Now, who's going to end up looking better between the two? Also, what's the over on? Oh, more. There's more. What's the over under? What's the over under on time? for Trump and for Harris with Rogan. Because most of his guests go to sometimes three hours. Can they do it? Okay.

Two days, I think we need some music under this. I feel like a game show host just stepped in here to the Will Kane show. I have never heard so much variation in voice tone from Patrick in the years I've known him. You know, that was, yeah, there we go. That was energetic, Patrick. You had some words you emphasized more than others. they weren't all the same monotone it's really incredible performance it's great work okay practicing you're welcome all right so here's what so donald trump it looks like it was announced

on the nilk boys pocket very popular podcast to nilk boys very very popular um i thought we're going to keep the music you're just going to do it for patrick yeah just do it for patrick um that he's gonna don't trump's going to go on joe rogan and it's apparently under consideration as well for Hamla Harris. So people look at this and they say, wow, that's huge, right? For Trump to go on Rogan is huge, he's far and away. Well, I don't know if he still is number one because I don't know if Alexander Cooper at Collar Daddy has surpassed him or Tucker Carlson's up there now with his podcast. But Joe is, if he's not one, he's right there and he's been one for what, a decade? So it's huge.

But I have a little bit of a different take on this when it comes to how impactful it is when it comes to the election. Joe is unique in the media sphere. What you'll see about most guys who have podcasts, one of the ways they make money is they create a network around them, right? And they get a deal with, say, Spotify or Draft Kings. And as part of that, they build other shows underneath them. And when they take an interest in that, I mean, this is what, like, you know lebitard gets a big deal from from draft kings but it's not just about dan lebitrard he's got to build five other shows joe's never done that what joe does is only the joe rogan experience

but he has created an ecosphere of content around him that he doesn't take an interest in i mean you could say cam haines and archery and hunting is a creation i'm not taking anything away from these guys but they know being on joe rogan is huge right andrew shultz the community comedian, big impact Joe Rogan's had on his career. Not just that, but like Brett Weinstein, who's a free speech advocate and was the former professor at Evergreen College, he has a big program. My point is, there's a lot of people either directly or indirectly in the Joe Rogan ecosphere, and they share audiences.

This is what happens, right? Like Ben Shapiro shares an audience with Matt Wall, shares an audience with Michael Knowles, and so forth. And I'm sure some percentage of their audiences are unique. but so what I'm getting at is Trump has appeared on Andrew Schultz podcast Trump has appeared on Theo Vaughn's podcast Trump has appeared on the Nelk boys who I don't think have been on Joe Rogan but they're kind of tangentially in that demographic and ecosystem so I think in a way Trump has already hit a lot of this audience and he's exposed himself to this kind of environment and I don't know how much

bigger the impact would be by going directly on Joe Rogan I do think it would be big I do think Rogan is still far and away bigger than all those guys but it's not probably the huge stretch that you might think

having never appeared on Joe Rogan Kamala Harris, different that would be an entirely different audience for her to be exposed to and I think it would be an utter train wreck an utter train wreck it was just announced that Kamala Harris is going to be with Brett Bayer

on Fox News I will be surprised if that goes well for Kamala Harris. She's had challenges doing the view, very friendly. And Brett is going to challenge her. I have no doubt about that. Brett will challenge Kamala Harris. Now, if she goes into Joe Rogan,

I actually think Brett probably would challenge her more than Rogan, but time is not on her side. Like, she'll probably give Brett, what, 20 minutes edited down to 10 to 15? Maybe it's a half hour, edited down to 20. unedited. It's going unedited, James? Playing it as is. Is it live? They are pre-taping it in the 5 p.m. hour because that's the time they give, and they're just turning it right around for Special Report at 6 and playing it as is.

Did they say how much time she's going to give him? It's somewhere between 25 and 30 minutes. Okay. I think that's going to be hard for Kamala Harris. I really do. A challenging environment for 25 minutes. Kamala going on Joe Rogan for, let's just put the... And you asked me, this, Patrick, what's the overrunner on time, right? So Joe Rogan podcast is usually like three hours, right? I don't think Trump is going to give him three hours. I don't think somebody running for president can do that. My suspicion is it would go just like Andrew Schultz, he'd give him an

hour, and then Trump would turn halfway or 45 minutes ago, let's give him some more time, come up, because he likes it and he gets going on it. I bet it's an hour and a half. Trump would end up with Joe Rogan. And in no world do I see Kamala Harris spending an hour a half productively with Joe Rogan in no world whatsoever so my prediction is she will not be on Joe Rogan

there's no way they do that although I'm shocked she's going to do Fox News Trump will I don't know how unique or how much of a bigger impact it will have than what we've already seen

or heard from Trump on the All In podcast again Theo Vaughn Andrew Schultz Nelke boys what's what's Aiden Quinn is that his name Aiden James

what's the young guy It's really popular. I've actually, Aiden Quinn's too young for me. I don't. That's new. Really? You're 25 and something's too young for you? Wow.

I got called an uncle the other day by some kid on Twitter. When they found out of 25. Was that me a great grandfather? All right. On Twitter. All right, Will, this is called Quick Hits. It's called Quick Hits. We've got another one for you.

I'd look it. There's a second pro-wold. sad. Brack it. Or play it? I don't know. Sorry, I had to mess that up for you. I'm so sorry. I had to do. I love singing

into the couch. Cold beer in my mouth. Rooting for the twins and Tim. And I love sharing all my tools. Played by the rules Keep the nose at your stream

And Tim I love Leaving my white notes Making a plan to vote Help in common The Wind And Tim We love you Tim

Go Go get them Coach There you go. That's the first I did. I had not watched that pre-show. That is incredible. Who was it?

Is it Matt Taibi who's joining us today? Yes. I think it was Matt Taibu said. Yeah, he's, he's listening. He's listening. Matt's already here listening? He's got in his head. I almost want to bring him in.

I don't know. So this, is this Jimmy, somebody said, is this Jimmy Kimmel's like, Comedy writer? The first one was doing these that did this one. There he is. Look, Matt's here now. How's it going, well?

We're dropping you in for this early. We've got to drop you in for, didn't you say on your Twitter, Matt, Matt Taeebee, award-winning journalist here now, racket.com news for this very important story. Didn't you say, we're not losing tinfoil pat? I mean, he's been,

you ever see Sabado Gigante, you know, like the Don Don Julio or whatever the guy, the MC of, it's a Saturday night show on Univisions. It's great, but Patrick is, basically are Don Julio today. Matt, didn't you say on your Twitter, like something like this is, is this like real? It's real, but is it like sabotage? What is going on with these ad campaigns?

So the other one, the one man enough video, I'm sure you've seen that one, right? We're all the guys are feeding chicken, cowboy hats and everything, and then they're sitting on the pickup truck bed. That was written and directed by a Jimmy Kimmel writer named Jacob Reed. And he actually did a little write-up about it on his site talking about how he, you know, he was ready for, the world was ready for a redefinition of what it means to be a man. And so that was what that one was for. Now, the same group that he's a part of, Creativist for Harris, did that Corse Light parody video of, you know, with Tim Waltz, which I'm not sure if the same guy wrote that, but my understanding is that it's the same people. It's the same group creatives for Harris.

It can 100% be a Saturday Night Live, you know, like skit commercial in the middle of Saturday Night Live. And hey, I should give them credit. Maybe it's self-aware. Like, are they laughing at themselves? Are they kind of making the – I don't know. Are they trying to be cool? It sounds like a Trey Parker, Matt Stone song, like a South Park kind of song. Well, right, yeah, except Trey Parker and Matt Stone would have been funny.

And you would have gotten a joke, right? Right. First of all, they're paradizing, you know, a beer commercial from 2002 that probably nobody remembers in that one. But the other thing is they're sending such confused messages, especially about the manliness thing, you know, where they have all these parody of collections of guys that are not really like men. I mean, they're really only short the guy in the headdress, and it would be a village people video, basically. basically. And that's their, that's their idea of what traditional masculinity is. It's so weird when you think, when you drill down into what, what's actually in that video. Okay, real quick, Matt, and then we're going to put you on hold and bring you back for our serious interview. Do you don't think they're in on the joke? There's no, there's no self-awareness here. They're not in on the

joke. No, I don't think so. I mean, if you watch the, the, the shows that these people are right for, it's almost like anti-comedy. I mean, clearly there's, like, layers of irony in there, but, like, you can't be, like, talking about traditional masculinity and being ironic about it while trying to redefine it. I mean, it just doesn't work. I think these, I think they're just really neurotic, these people, and don't know how to do anything that isn't just political messaging.

Okay, Matt, Taibi, thanks for dropping in. I hope you'll hang out for a minute more because I have a lot of serious things I want to talk with you about, but now I've got to turn it back over to Don Julio for our quick hits. Dan, two days, give him some music, give him the floor, go for it, tinfoil pad. Here we go, I need you, I need your help on this one, Will. We got an image. Okay.

I sent it over earlier today. It's from Bath and Body Works, and they're in hot water over this. I want to get your reaction. Oh, you need me to put it up? He's making you do work. I have to do this, Patrick. I have no idea where. You know, you know, you know, here.

It's in the text. I made it super easy. I got it. All right. Here we go. Nice. This is Bath and Body Works. What do you see when you look at this candle?

Oh my God. Okay, the candle is from Bath and Body Works. It's called Snowed in. Bath and Body Works exclusive fragrance. Soy wax blend candle. And it's got like one of these paper snowflakes cut out, right? That's what I saw. The majority of the can.

for those listening on radio or podcast it's a red background it's got a white paper cut out snowflake right don't explain it too much what do you what do you call the it's not a pedal on a snowflake i don't know the flowers the stems on the snowflake um i'm gonna be real with you like i heard this story before seeing the image i'd already heard about it i see it too i'm gonna be honest i see the the Ku Klux Klan. Like, they look like clan hooded. The snowflake looks like...

It does, Patrick. I mean, pointy head, two eye holes cut out. I don't know many snowflakes that have like that, like, what's going on? Now, obviously, I don't think bed bath and beyond

or whatever it is, body works, I don't think they're infiltrated by white supremacists. I think that somebody, in the creative department should have gone, huh,

you know guys. You know. That's like when they do like, they have like phallic symbols and imagery, you know? Yes,

yes, exactly. Like a football tellistrator before you know it. He's drawn a hook route with, uh, you do that a lot.

Yeah. Too wide. One deep. So that is, Patrick. I do. That is the, that is the clandle.

The clandle. Oh no. The clandum. Oh, no. And all to the next. image. We have a second one. Now, there's something called, ah, dead gum it messed up. We call lockstep individualism, okay? Lockstep individualism. Right. Where people are trying to be

different. They're trying to be unique. And by doing so, they actually are becoming part of the collective. And so something that they're doing is, one thing is there, a lot of boy names are ending in the letter in. So an example of this is the popularity of the word the name Jason led to other son names like Mason, Jackson, Grayson, and Carson. As you can

see that in the image. Okay, I got you. I got you. I got it here. It's very popular now. Yeah. What do you think about this? I'm your production assistant here, Patrick. I remember I remember listening to Love Line. I remember listening to Love Line back in the day. Oh, no, no, we're just going to

go it's quick hits go quick hits not from you not from you oh no i'm trying to set it up but i see what you're saying all right from the 1970s to the 1990s the boy named jason absolutely dominated the names of people who are choosing names for their children it i did notice this totally anecdotally in the 2010s the s o win ending of first names absolutely began to dominate mason jackson grason carson everywhere you look there are kids with those names. And I think this, I'd never heard of this lockstep individualism. I'd always, what everyone tries to do is come up with a unique name for their kid.

Like, oh, we're going to do something. We can't just pick John, Jack, you know, whatever. Even Matt, Matt, tell you'd be like, I've got a brother named Matt. There was a lot of those back in the 80s and the 70s. And now everybody, they don't want to be like everybody else. They're trying to find the next Grayson. But what you are, this is what's interesting to me. you are a product of your place and time,

and you're not as ever unique as you think that you are, even when you're trying to be unique. I got a kid named Charlie. Why did I? My grandfather's name Charlie. I'm Charles. My dad is Charles. But also, I like that it was a throwback name, like more timeless.

Well, guess what? There's a lot of Charlie's running around my son's age. A lot. So, I mean, I'm not exempt from this. And by the way, Patrick, I looked this up because I found it fascinating. Look at this. Most popular boy names by state. So I talk about geographic variation that I like.

It's not. Look, Texas, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Virginia. Half the country's naming their boys, Liam. It's the number one. The only things that rival it are Noah and Oliver. And Noah's from Pennsylvania to California, the most popular name. Oliver, all over the country. And by the way, it's not just boy names.

Look at this. Here's girl names. All over the country. Emma's, Olivia's, and Ava's. All over, right? In 2023, most popular boy names. about this two of days when you start with kids soon maybe maybe it's good you'll have a name like everybody else well everyone everyone kind of not as you ever kind of went away from biblical names

go ahead the daniels the johns the matthews you know the pauls i think like that's what was popular but i don't know if it's you want to be unique yeah go with john like john the name everybody had in the 80s right now there's no kids named john exactly you mean no little five-year-olds of the playground named john of course the point of this whole story is the minute The minute you do, there'll be a bunch of John's running around because we're all not as unique as we think we are. All right, quick hits. Good job, Patrick. Let's give him a round of applause. Yeah, that was a good job, Patrick. All right, let's get a little more serious with award-winning journalist from racket.

Dot News, Matt Taibi on. Here's what I want to talk to Matt about. What's left for an October surprise? What, and I'm hesitant to use the imagery and the metaphors, but what bullet is left to fire to stop Donald Trump next on the Will Cain show? Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy, host of the Trey Gowdy podcast. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com. Lawfare assassination attempts, media manipulation, 21 days in election, what will be done?

Because something more will be done in the attempt to. stop the quote-unquote existential threat that is Donald Trump. It's the Will Kane Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Hit subscribe at Apple, Spotify, or on YouTube, and always hang out with us here on the Will Kane show. All right, joining us now, award-winning journalist, the author of Hate Inc. And I Can't Breathe, among many other books. He has a substack, which you should go subscribe to, racket.com.

He's also on X at Matt Taibi. It is Matt Taibi on the Will Kane Show. What's up, Matt? How's it going, Will? What's new? Speaking of Substack and X, I just thought I'd start here with you today. I have to, I know you know this. I have to seek you out. I really do.

I cannot, you are not visible on X. And I think it's, I actually think it's worthwhile you and I starting here. You know, Elon Musk gets a lot of deserved praise. And he may just be the savior of, if not free speech, breaking the group think of mass communication. And he's a genius. and he's putting, you know, private enterprise into space, and he's doing amazing things. But you are an interesting story, Matt.

Like, you have clearly been deep, not de-platformed. The word would be, I guess, de-emphasized. Deamplified. You have two million followers on X, and of which I am one of them, I never see your tweets. Never. I have to go to you and see it.

and for having 2 million people that follow you and I'm not trying to discourage you or I'm just kind of saying it the way you get like 45,000 views for a tweet or 400 likes and somebody with your kind of following it should easily be quadruple that X is not treating you

I would get you know sometimes 15, 20 million views for a tweet so it's it is what it is you know it's certainly hurt my business but you know Elon feels the way he feels

and this is one of the drawbacks to private platforms that they can do these kinds of things so it does happen but you so the thing with you and Elon is Elon turned to you

during the Twitter files he turned to you and Michael Schellenberger a few others to dig into Twitter see what you found and see what was in there of what they were doing before he bought

and then report on it and you did and you did a great job and then At some point, you're like, I'm going to put a lot of this reporting that I'm doing, not just on Twitter, but I'm going to put it on substack, and I need to build a business. And the argument from my understanding, Matt, was, well, you can't use my platform X to send people to a different platform to make money.

And so we're not, and I've heard this, by the way, beyond just you. Like, if I put a YouTube link on X, people aren't going to see it. You know what I mean? Like, that'll be de-amplified, anything that sends traffic away from X. But here's the thing. It's not just your posts that have a link to your substack or something like that. It's all your posts that are kind of been deamplified. So, yeah, no, this story is actually sillier than that.

What happened was Substack, which is the platform that I write on, they're a relatively small company compared to X slash Twitter. Right at the end of the Twitter Files project, they put out a product called Notes, which is a kind of a competitor version of Twitter. You know, it's kind of a scrolling social media platform. And Elon was very upset about this. He thought that Notes was an attempt to kill Twitter. That's what he told me.

And so as a punishment, he introduced all these things where substack links would not open or error messages would show and all kinds of other things. And, you know, I said to him, Elon, I'm on substack. I can't make any money if you do this. kind of stuff. It had nothing to do with Twitter files material. This was just, you know, this is a problem for me personally. I can't really use Twitter if you're going to do this stuff. And he got very upset. And so in addition to what happens to all substack contributors, which is that it's very hard to open up their links to their work, I have some extra hexes on my account. I can kind and guess what they are, they're probably something called, you know, a broad search ban or

a search denialist, which basically means that if you're looking for my content, you just won't get it unless you actually go to my page and look. So it's decreased my traffic about 30 or 40 times, really. And what really, and look, I don't know, because you and Elon had a personal relationship and it obviously went sideways. But I appreciate so much about what Elon has done. But when that happens, when something like this has happened with you, it concerns me because it's like, well, is it just Matt? Or where else is this going on?

Because this was sort of the, this was the thing we were talking about with the Twitter files like shadow banning people like me or others that didn't fit the then preferred narrative. Well, what we've revealed is there still is a preferred narrative. So who else is this happening with? Yeah, and this is one of the things we started to think about when we saw the Twitter for all. This is just how incredibly easy it is for these platforms to really in a very exact way decide how much traffic each person is going to get. And you saw this with the communications between the White House and Facebook about Tucker Carlson, for instance.

There was one video that he did about not being sure. that they were being told the truth about the efficacy of the virus. He actually turned out to be right about that, by the way. But Facebook told them that, yeah, we're going to dial that one down 50% for you. So they can do it pretty much to the follower, how many people will see each thing, how much exposure each person will get. And, you know, in our case, what we learned is that some of us who even worked in the Twitter Files project ended up in that bucket of people who,

who were de-amplified or turned down. I think it's a temptation that all these owners have. The only thing I would say is it's worse when the government's involved. So if the FBI is calling or the global engagement center or the Office of the Director of National Intelligence or DHS and they're asking somebody to turn things down, then that's illegal and I would say significantly worse. this is also a danger. Well, that's, I want to stay on this, because there's another place, there's several

the places I want to go with you today. Let's set it up this way. The last time you were on the Will Kane show, Matt, was in February, okay? And you and I had a conversation in February, and here's what we talked about. Watch. It is kind of shocking. There hasn't been an attempt on his life. I mean, you've got, you know, it's, you could argue, by the way, it undercuts all the

conspiracies of assassination because all of the powers that be behind the scenes are marshalled against Trump and it hasn't manifested in that. And on the on the front end, you've also ginned up a great amount of like, you know, populist or anti-populist hatred of Trump that could could inspire a mass lone wolf, right? You just kind of look at this from a distance and you go, it's shocking that this hasn't been the final step in stopping Donald Trump. Okay, bad. Here we are. now you and I are speaking six months later and there's at least two attempts yeah that's fantastic scary though right um but yeah very scary you could have predicted though that there that somebody was going to take a shot at him um i mean that interview was probably a month and a half after

the washington post did a a big feature saying i think it was by robert kagan um saying a trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable. We have to stop pretending. And there's a huge picture of Julius Caesar as the illustration. And the whole thing is basically like, you know, we have to do whatever it takes to stop him. And, you know, I think people know what the story of Julius Caesar is. It's a bunch of upper class patrician senators who decided that they had to kill the guy to prevent him from becoming a dictator. You know, that's not exactly subtle messaging. So I'm not surprised that somebody took a shot or two people tried to take a shot. Well, and then afterwards, there was like, with the first assassination attempt, there was a dial back, a momentary

dialing back of the rhetoric, but we're back here, Matt. Like, this is CNN today. It's the headline. Harris warns unhinged Trump is out for total power. So she describes him as unhinged. Inside the article, they write that she says, watch, his rallies, listen to his words, he tells us who he is, he tells us what he would do if he's elected president. And Tim Walts said that what Trump says has now amounted to treason. It's like, okay, we're 100% back. Wow. Yeah, he says Trump. Yeah. It could even, here's the paragraph. Democratic Vice President nominee Tim Waltz, meanwhile, went even further suggesting the ex-president's musings about using the military against domestic foes. He branded

the enemy from within could even amount to treason. So, by the way, they're talking about Trump using the military. Here's James Carvel. Same line of argumentation. Here's James Carvel talking about Trump rallies and imagery of Nazis. I did not realize when I said that, that he would actually go on television and say, I'm going to use the military to round up my political enemies. When I said that, General Flynn, who's going to be very senior in this administration,

didn't say that the gates of hell will rain on my political enemies. When I said that, I didn't know that he was going to schedule a rally at Madison Square Garden to mimic the Nazi rally of 10 February 1939. So, I mean, this is how we got to the assassination. So what's the evidence that because he's going to Madison Square Garden that this is mimicking the 1939? Rally? Did somebody say that overtly? Or are they just putting that together? No idea. I also don't know, Matt. I also don't know what he's referencing when he says. And he's not the only one because Bill Maher's saying some stuff like this,

others that Trump has said he'll round up his critics. Right. Now, every time they say something like this, I always, first of all, I don't pay attention because I'm like the guy who's touched the stove. I know what happens when you touch the stove. Well, you did very fine people out of context. You did, bloodbath out of context. You did all these, I mean, it's half a dozen things we could point to that clearly he wasn't saying what you said he said. So I don't know what they're referencing on this. Use the military to round up my political enemies. But my strong suspicion is if I find the original clip they're referencing, it's not what he said. No, I think he, in that particular instance, he's referencing, for instance, like Antifa in connection with the rallies in 2020. He was

trying to say that there is a percentage of the population that is internally dangerous. He has ratcheted up the rhetoric about the enemy within, although I would say the Democrats have also done that consistently over the last eight years. But I'm like you. I mean, I didn't vote for Donald Trump either of the last two elections. And the first time, I was very concerned because I was covering his rallies when he was chanting along with Lock Her Up and all these other things. I thought, man, what if he's serious? What if he's actually going to do these things, right? And then you learn that, you know, with Trump,

sometimes he says things in kind of a maximalist way that are meant to be intended, meant to be received by audiences. I would say more figuratively than literally. But even in this case, if you look at what he's literally saying, he's not saying he's going to use the military to round up his enemies. I think what he's talking about is using the National Guard to suppress protests.

which is also controversial, but it's not the same thing. Right. But not just protest. I would assume he's like you started your answer with, like the violent Antifa members within these protests or that kind of thing. Right. I mean, I don't know what the predicate would be for going after them if they're not doing something. You know, it's similar to what's going on now with the DHS, which is tracking what they call DVEs, right? domestic violent extremists, which a portion of those actually are Antifa, but they're mostly

looking at the kind of right-wing, you know, crowd boy type, you know, activists. And they do have special programs out to monitor those folks and, you know, give recommendations to the platforms about their speech online, that kind of thing. Maybe he's talking about something like that? I don't know. I mean, well, it's a question worth asking him, but I'm pretty sure he's not talking about rounding up for instance democratic party politicians yeah exactly that yeah that's my and that's the only reason i think you're right that's an interesting conversation debate about whether or not the government and using the mechanism of the national guard should be focused on domestic descent because to your point the primary focus of most of that whether or not it's the

FBI or various other institutions is focused on the right it's proud boys it's oathkeepers it's things like that it's not antifa so um there's a legitimate conversation about whether or not if it's coming from trump's mouth or anyone else's actions you know merrick garland's actions that should be being done but by me pointing to the antifa what i'm saying is you're taking that and extrapolating it as though he's going to round up gin sake i mean that is definitely what they're insinuating right you're going to round up gin sake yeah i mean look trump says i'm going to be dictator on day one i get these uh lists that the he sends out every day with their daily talking points. They're called the daily talkers, I think, is what they call these little flyers.

And, you know, for almost a year after Trump gave that quote, they were stressing this idea, he's going to be a dictator on day one. He's going to be a dictator on day one. Now, if you listen to Trump's what he actually said, it's not even as bad as what George Bush said back in the day when he talked about, you know, it would just be easier. or a dictator or whatever it was, that was a little bit of a scarier insight into the mind of a chief executive. I think Trump was sort of saying, oh, I would love to be able to just in one day fix these two, these problems. But, you know, they take, when you say things out loud

in politics, they are going to take your quotes and they're going to, to floor it in their messaging. The problem is that with Trump, they've consistently pitched him as something that he isn't, which is not only irresponsible, but I also think it's just a political mistake because they're not properly gauging why he's getting all of this support. It has to do with a lot of real things. Like people are upset with, you know, the economy, the performance of this, of this government, the overreach of intelligence services, that sort of thing. But if you pitch him as something other than a kind of a populist back,

type of leader, people are going to see through it, and they're going to support him even more because now they think that the officials are being dishonest. So I just think it's a stupid move by them to continue going there. So I'm going to transition before I come back to this. You know, I was thinking about you this morning, I was thinking about, because I know you chimed in on this. So J.D. Vance has this conversation with the New York Times reporter, and they talk about basically the premise of the question from the New York Times reporter is, If you deport the illegal immigration pool of labor, who's going to build the houses? That's basically what she says.

She talked about, and she gave it percentages. She's like X percent of the construction workforce is Latino, X percent of the Latino population is illegal. You know, so by extension, whatever percentage of the people working on your house, you know, they're here illegally. And if you deport them, who's going to do the jobs? Now, by the way, Matt, and J.D. Vance has a great answer. he's like, look, I think we have all of these native-born Americans who are demoralized, forget the unemployment rate, they've dropped outside of the workforce participation rate, meaning they've even quit looking for jobs, and we can motivate people to take,

to re-engage in the economy. I actually hear this a lot, Matt. Like, I mean, I live in Texas, you know, and, you know, that comes up like, well, who's going to do this job or who does that? Americans won't do these jobs. And I think there's an interesting, I saw your commentary on this. I think when you and I first met, Matt, was on CNN. It was around Occupy Wall Street, and one of the debates at the time,

I don't know, this is what you and I talked about, was what do you do with the workforce in an economy where many of the jobs of yesterday can no longer be the jobs of tomorrow? And there was big debates about retraining, and you and I might have been on a debate panel talking about that. And by the way, that's spun forward to learn to code. Remember learn to code? That's when all the journalists are getting fired.

But I do think there's, I have a friend I was having this conversation with yesterday about like robot futures, right? The robots are now part of the workforce and they do a lot of these jobs. I do think there is an inevitability of a transition in the labor force to different kinds of skilled labor that we're going to have to address. And whether or not those jobs are filled by illegal immigration or they're filled by robots, I'm not sure JD can get everybody back to building houses. I'm not sure that is as good as it sounds and I want to care about the American worker. I do. I'm not sure if I'm swimming against the tides of history. Yeah, that's a legitimate question to raise. I understand that. I think the thing that was shocking for me with that question, having grown up in like the quote unquote liberal media

was that it was once an absolutely like prerequisite belief among liberal reporters that it was a bad thing for employers to take advantage of undocumented workers and pay them less than they would. unionized labor here in the United States. So here you have the New York Times reporter who's essentially saying, what are we going to do with that? All this non-union illegal labor that's building all these houses. And also the elitist, I mean, there is a little bit of elitism in the assumption that Americans won't do construction work. I mean, come on. I've done construction work. I've done demolition work. It's, you know, there's a pretty long tradition of people doing that kind of work in this country. And they'll do it as long as they're kind of

compensated fairly, which I think is what Vance said in response. But the premise of that question just tells you how the kind of the left and right polls have really switched in the last eight years. Yeah. Hearing from the New York Times is it's almost like what you would have heard from, you know, neo-conservative Republicans, maybe in the early 2000s. That's just a really bizarre kind of take from them. It is a fascinating. And by the way, I don't even know. where I like this is a difficult one for me to sort through everything because on one hand it's I want to I like the populace yeah I like the populism of of the rights movement I really do I like a refocus on the blue collar worker the middle class how can we make sure that nobody's

left behind in this economy um I also want you know a secure border I also think minimum wage laws are part of this this this calculus like there's always going to be a market for black market labor like cheap just like drugs you know I mean like people want something for cheaper that they can get done. It's just going to, it's human nature. And I don't know how you fit all, I don't think the conclusion is that we should have a permanent underclass of illegal labor and we should embrace it. I don't think that's where you get, right? But you're seeing, to your point, the left and the right, all over the map on this, on this issue. Yeah, it's just, it's totally confusing. I mean, I, I did a story probably about 10 years ago about a town in Georgia that, you know, they were, there's a whole bunch

of basically chicken plants there right they make um like frozen chicken products and stuff like that and the entire labor force is undocumented basically Mexican workers who are working for under the table wages and there's a high rate of unemployment in the area and it's a it's a totally untenable situation because the the local population is angry at the immigrant population the immigrant population however is also, you know, under constant stress, you know, on their way to work, they're being picked up by ice workers and then deported to the wrong countries and all kinds of horrible things are happening to them. They may never see their kids again, you know, they go off to work in the morning. Like, you don't know whether they're going to come back. All this stuff is terrible.

And so you can't say, well, I like that as a permanent solution. I mean, I don't know who thinks that that's a good idea, right? I mean, it's just, you know, fixing has to go on with that, I think. All right, I want to now weave this back. I've embraced the Trump weave. Did you see Trump on Andrew Shultz? Yeah, that was really fun. I don't ramble.

I weave, I weave. Yeah. I want to weave back to this assassination idea, and it actually ties into censorship. I didn't know this until we were prepping for the show today, having you on. We're like, what should we put in the title? I have noticed people on social media using a star in place of letters for words like assassination. And I didn't understand it. I guess it should have triggered me that there's censorship. But we were saying should we talk about assassination with Matt? And they're like,

well, that'll never go anywhere because it'll be censored. And that's why people put stars. And I've noticed they do it with rapist. That's a rape. And they even like beep it out. Which struck me. I'm like, is that a bad word? Why are we doing this? Somebody said murders on the list. It's kind of, and I get it on one level, Matt. And I just talk to you about this because you think a lot about free speech and censorship as well, but obviously we don't need to be censored for mentioning those words because we're talking about it in the context of analyzing it and having a thoughtful conversation. What are they trying to accomplish? Are they trying to accomplish no one calling for assassination? Because you're shutting down a lot of productive

conversation with this word censorship. No, it's not even that. I think, and they're doing it with more keywords than even those things like assassination. You'll see people insert symbols in places like populism. There are all kinds of keywords that trigger algorithmic suppression. And what the algorithms are really doing is they're trying to determine who's reading your content, who's retweeting your content. Are you retweeting content of sort of the wrong kinds of personalities, if you are you get down ranked automatically so that fewer people see your content so for instance

when you joe biden was actually deamplified because he was talking about vaccines too much that was one of the complaints really yeah in his dialogue with facebook one of the things that the white house was furious about there's a whole email exchange where like we have to get this fixed asap because because Biden was talking about a certain topic they started to deamplify his speech so the bully pulpit wasn't working quite as well so this is the reason you're seeing people do that is because they know how the algorithms work or they're guessing how the algorithms work and i think i think it's crazy what's what's going to end up happening is again i'm old enough to have studied in the soviet union and people spoke in kind of code words about things right like if they wanted to talk about uh changing dollars right they wouldn't say changing They would say like, you know, selling genes, right? That was the metaphor for selling basically information to newspapers or something like that. So they would invent code words that they could have political speech, and we're already doing that,

which means that people are already conscious of the censors, which means they've already done half their job because they're preempting speech. So I think that's terrifying. The whole thing is terrifying. that is absolutely terrifying uh i mean for anybody that doesn't know matt you lived in this you lived in the soviet union not just russia you're there in the 90s so you're there before the fall as well yeah i studied in that um that's leningrad public technique university in 1989 and 90s so yeah so you bring that experience that's fascinating and and to your point of they've already done half their job the point of censorship is really completed when the self-censoring begins right And we are well into self-censoring.

I mean, I think that's the point you're making. You've done half the job. I'll take the rest. Yes, absolutely. And particularly where it concerns Donald Trump, you see all kinds of people hesitant to bring up certain things. Like I know there are journalists who had problems, for instance, with the Russia gate stories.

You know, they said this thing didn't add up, this didn't add up. But they didn't want to say so because they didn't want to end up, you know, sort of informally on the social outcast list. So they kept their mouths shut. And as a result, these stupid stories kept keep flowering. And even a couple of weeks ago, we saw an amazing example of this where 60 Minutes, you know, did this goofy edit with their interview of Kamala Harris. And they basically took, it looks like one answer and substituted for the real answer. And in the past, you would have seen their ostensible competitors at NBC and ABC and, you know, CNN.

They would have jumped all over that and said, what's going on with CBS? Why did they do this? That's ethically crazy. This is supposed to be the standard for the news business. Instead, total silence, right? Because they're not really competitors anymore. What they're doing is they're trying to stay inside of a box that doesn't offend the sense. sensibilities of both sensors and kind of the social enforcement that goes on within, you know,

their little circles. So it's really scary. People are afraid to speak about even simple things. So I want to complete this conversation now. So last time we were together, we talked about lawfare, by the way, and we talked about assassination as a reference there. All of that has, and I'm going to use imagery or analogies or metaphors that, who knows, gets me flagged. But it's like all those bullets have been fired in order to stop Donald Trump. We're 21 days out for him election, and it didn't stop Donald Trump. And again, set into the context of people who believe, and we could have a conversation about whether or not they really believe it or not, of whether or not he's an existential threat.

Like some people do down the food chain. I don't know that the prime players, the Kamala Harris is, the Joe Biden's truly believe that but you know they say it enough that down the food chain their listeners there are people that do believe that um but if you believe that and you fired most of your bullets what's left to try to stop Donald Trump and I don't know the answer to that Matt and we're 21 days out my suspicion is it's something involving the media meaning it's either we're going to see some egregious censorship of a story that you should know about involving Kamala Harris or tim waltz that you won't get to know about, or a manufactured story about Donald Trump that isn't vetted, his poor reporting,

will be shoved out there into everyone's consciousness before it can be fact-checked and rebutted. That's my suspicion of what we'll see in the next 21 days. That's the only bullet left to fire. It's the media. Yeah, I think that's probably right, because they've done everything else. I mean, they've done, he's going to be a fascist. I mean, that was one of the leading stories over the weekend was Mark Millie saying that Trump was fascist to his core and they repeated

there was an endless loop of stories about down on cable over the weekend but that stuff doesn't land anymore. Almost nothing you say about Trump really lands anymore and what I think these people don't understand is that's not really a reflection on Trump. It's a reflection on the loss of trust that audiences

have in conventional media. That's why it's so important if either of these candidates go on a show like Joe Rogan, right, because audiences do actually have some trust in that media figure because he stands outside the conventional framework, right? But the thing that you mentioned about some kind of new clampdown or some basically like broad censorship program, there have been so many hints in recent weeks from everybody

from John Kerry to Hillary Clinton to AOC to, you know, they're saying really, really outlandish things about how we need to have, this is an emergency, we need to have a lockdown immediately, whether it's about the hurricane stuff or just generally. That leads me to think that there's something coming down the pipeline that they're worried about and that they're preparing, you know, some kind of a lockdown. Because that is actually sort of what happened in 2020. this was one of the subtext of the Twitter files was that all the platforms were being informed

that there was the story about Hunter Biden that was coming and that they were all discussing what to do about it way ahead of time, like long before the story came out. So it may be something like that, who knows? But I share your concern that it's some kind of broad censorship effort. Yeah. So Matt does great reporting, as always.

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Thanks so much, Matt. No, thanks so much, Will. Take care. Okay, there you goes. Matt Taibi. Love having Matt on the show. I do think Matt is, you know, I think he's an independent thinker. I think he's interesting. I think he's a deep thinker.

And I think that his evolution over time is absolutely fascinating. By the way, so we've all evolved. I've evolved. But anyway, when somebody does, I think it's not just people try to chalk it up as a cynicism or a media play, meaning I want to make money. What is it? Grifting. That's the word I always use, grifting.

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and i saw you this weekend on fox and friends but you were primarily talking to pete higgseth um i talked to a few of the guys with you i think they were assistant coaches or former players Does coach supersede chancellor, or do I say chancellor? When you're on campus, do the kids say coach or do they say chancellor? Which title goes on top? You know, this generation calls me pastor. And I have no idea why they chose that over coach. This is my first time coaching where I haven't been called coach.

I was a pastor for, you know, 20 years. And my son now is the senior pastor. And I came back five years ago to be the head coach. So I thought I was coming back to be the coach, but, you know, I'm just glad they call me. So, you know, I'm called for the pastor. You could call me Denny. I often say to Christians, I say, you know, Jesus was Jesus. So we can be called by our first names.

That's a good thing. I always think about this. I always think about this, like with Tommy Tuberville, you know, like former head coach at Auburn and Texas Tech. But now Senator from Alabama, I'm like, I think I have to go with Senator. I think I have to go with Senator over coach, right? like but coach is a hard-earned title for me if i saw him anywhere i'd have to say hey coach how you doing how's it going on capital uh well danny i'll take you up on your offer uh you've got this new series um god family and football it's on fox nation and it focuses it's a um i don't

want to call it a reality show a docu-drama about what you guys are doing um i have it i think right in Shreveport, right, Louisiana. And this unique place that your school has managed to capture where, you know, it's really the two things brought together where you've got a great football program. You're churning out guys. I believe it's 100 guys who you've put on into Division I football. But you're focused on family and faith. And you can see it in the trailers and the episodes,

raising better men. That's rare to have a program. that can say both of those things. Well, I think, Will, really, it's been a reflection in my life. I think that everybody lives out their life experience and their own values. When I was a teenager, I had a very real experience with the Holy Spirit that changed my life in one night. I can't really describe what happened that night. I just knew that I wanted to give the rest of my life serving Christ and sharing his message with people.

planned to go to seminary, but Louisiana Tech University came and offered me a scholarship as a wide receiver. I was a quarterback in high school, and they said, you're not the kind of quarterback we're looking for, but here you can run a little bit. We'd like for you to come to tech. And I immediately said, well, no, I'm going to prepare for the ministry. They said, well, you just come for one night. It's the last game of Terry Bradshaw's college career. And so I took them up on the offer. And I watched Terry play that night. And of course, you know, we've been friends for a long, long time and had the same high school coach. And I watched him put up like 74 points that night and ran for 100 yards and threw for 350. And it was just exhilarating. But that

wasn't what moved me. At the end of that game, I was watching thousands of those students as they emptied out of the stands. And I felt the voice of God speak to me. And when I talk about the voice of God. I'm not talking about hearing the audible voice of God like Moses. I'm talking about loud thoughts that you know come from a spiritual source, that you probably wouldn't say those things to yourself. And the voice I heard that night was, I have called you here to play football for my glory. Now, you have to understand, I'm 72 years old. So in that day, there weren't Tim Tebos, you know, there weren't a lot of guys in fellowship of Christian athletes at that time. That was a fledgling organization in 1970. And I just showed up on campus with those

instructions. And I put a prayer meeting sign on my dorm room in prayer meeting here 9 o'clock every night in a football dorm. And we had two guys show up my roommate. And I didn't want to be there. He just, you know, he had no place to go. It was that kind of thing. And before long, The message of Christ began to reach my teammates. And we had an amazing thing happen. I was switched to quarterback my junior year. And as soon as I was switched, I went to prayer because I don't want to be quarterback.

I would love being out there away from all those big guys, you know, just catching the ball and doing what I did. But they moved me to quarterback. I became the starting quarterback. And again, I went to prayer. And these loud thoughts come to me again. And this is what the Lord says to me is, I've called you to be the quarterback, and I'm going to give you an undefeated season for the first time in history of Louisiana Tech for my glory. You're going to be you able to use that to talk to people.

And so we barely slipped by our first opponent, weakest opponent on our schedule, beat them seven and nothing. Second string quarterback came in and took my place. I mean, I threw more to the concessionaire that night than I did my wide receivers. I was so off. And I went, I went right into the coach, went right into my coach. And I said, coach, I said, God's called me to be the quarterback of this team. And he looked at me like I was nuts. And I said, don't move me because we're going to have an undefeated season for the first time in the history of Louisiana Tech.

Well, he immediately got me out of that room. And if you have a chance, Will, there is, you can Google Louisiana Tech Revival. And there will be like a three minute video that will come up. And that coach is actually telling this story that I'm telling you. And he died a couple of years ago, and I preached his funeral. But at the end, to make a long story short, and an exciting story, very short, we went 12 and 0 for the first time in the history of Louisiana Tech. And after we beat Western Kentucky, excuse me, Tennessee Tech in the Grandland Rice Bowl,

an ABC reporter walked over and said, did you ever think this could happen? And I said, well, I asked the Lord for an 11 and 0 season, he gave us a 12 and 0 season. season that shows you what Jesus could do. So it became a platform for me to be able to share my faith. And from that time on, you know, that's what I've been doing. And so this became a place that was patterned after that calling, not concept, but but actually calling of God to touch these young men's lives. And I could tell you, well, I wouldn't be involved in football and I wouldn't be involved

in this school, as many good things as it does in the world, if we weren't. given the opportunity to really openly share our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. And we have kids from all denominations, you know, that are here. And we don't try to, you know, make a Catholic, a good little Protestant or a Baptist, a good little Methodist. We tell even their churches and their leaders, hey, look, we want to send these kids back to you, having affirmed their faith. And we want these guys to be better citizens.

And you don't have to be a Christian to come here either. I mean, you don't have to sign anything that say, I believe, that says, I believe in Jesus or any of that. We welcome everybody. Well, I saw there was a moment in the series. I thought it was pretty interesting. I think an opposing coach comes up to you or one of your coaches afterwards and said, you call yourself a Christian school.

You should know this player's cussing, this player's doing that on the field, right? And the response was, I think the response was, we're not recruiting perfect Christians into the school. We're working on creating them. That's right. We're working on creating men. to that guy will he was so mad that night you know he came across charged across a you're not christians your player cursed me and i'll look at him and i said we're lucky he didn't

do worse than that i said our kids are not all christians here i said we're christians and we're doing our best to be able to shine a lot of christ in their lives and by the way i love it and i wake up every morning my hair on fire and i'm in my happy place and that's right here in shreveport Louisiana with this little other side of the track, private school, being able to reach these kids. I cannot tell you how blessed I am and thankful I am every day. Tell me about your players, your students, you just described as the other side of the track private school. Who is the student, who you're reaching out to, how are you creating better men? Well, we have kids that come here from all walks of life. We have kids that come here

from very wealthy families, but most of our kids are middle class. And then we have some kids that really struggle that would be a socioeconomically challenged, you know, family. And what I can say is that we get involved in every aspect of their lives. We're going to know their families. We're going to be able to call their moms and their dads and share with them when they're having a tough time or they need some assistance. And the biggest thing, thing is that we're going to be able to teach them the principles of life using the Word of God every single morning. And we make sure that we give it in bite-sized chunks. They're not going to sit there and listen to a 45-minute mess sermon, but just a truth that we're able to share with them

daily and then to build upon that and hopefully relate it to their world. The thing that we teach kids is that the Lord will come into your world. You know, you don't have to go visit him in the sanctuary every Sunday to find him. But he will come into your world. He loves you and he cares for you and he's willing to listen to you. And that's why we pray and we teach these kids to pray. One of the things I think that we do this, the most valuable is every single morning we pray a father's blessing over them because many of those kids have never heard their father bless them in the name of the Lord. Now, I know you went to a Christian school. You went to Pepperdine, played water polo, right? I did.

I thought he did a little research, didn't you? Yeah, always, always. But my son played, he was the, he was the most valuable defensive player in the West Coast Conference, shortstop for Pepperdine. Really? How about that? Yeah, he graduated from Pepperdine. What year? In 2000, I think it was 2007, I think he was a 2007 guy.

I think it was seven. Oh, he's younger. than me yeah yeah but he uh he was you know he loved it i mean he loved he was a national my one of my and he got go ahead yeah i was going to say one of my best buddies it lives across the street for me played at pepperon baseball though base i knew the baseball guys just just not in 2007 well you know uh in the 90s you you probably know the guys that went pro you know uh Travis uh Travis darno yeah catcher for the Mets well his big brother, Chase Darno, was Danny Rodney's best friend, and they played middle infield

together. And so we love Pepperdine. And it was, I told us, we have another, we have another connection, although loose, I know you guys, as I said, put like a hundred guys into D1. One of your players, I believe it's from last year, goes to Clemson. My nephew plays offensive line at Clemson. I don't know what. Oh, my gosh, yes. Yeah, I don't know what position your player. Parker. He's wide out. Parker. Parker. Fuljum is a red shirt, preferred walk on, and he loves it there. I'm telling you he loves it. And you got to, when you go visit your nephew, you got to meet this dude. You will love Parker Fulcham. And of course, he and his brother are the main characters on this show. They're the

twins. Right, because it's last year you're focused on last season. Right. So last question for you, coach. So I had this conversation, again, with friends last night. We're talking about sports. You know, and look, sports is a part of my life in way too many ways, if we're being real. From fantasy football and watching the Cowboys and the Longhorns to focusing on my kids' sports.

And, you know, at times, it's, you know, we as a family talk about, we give too much attention to this. There's other, you know, from your soul to your brain, there are other things in life that we need to give as much attention to. Totally. But why do you think that's gotten out of hand? And you hear

it is but why is it work for you as a vehicle you emphasize over and over you know as much to we want to win games we're about building better men and football is its own unique thing but all sports in general why do you think it works as a vehicle for building better men well because that's what you decide to do with it that's what you just that is the objective this isn't a byproduct it's what it's what we're going for it's what we're aiming for to be able to able to use this simply as a gathering place. You know, when you're when you're a kid, if you were raised in church, then they know that there were things called outreaches all the time in churches that were really vibrant

and alive. They would, they'd have a dinner and invite people to it. They'd have a Saturday pancake breakfast for the men and invite your friends, invite your families, that have a special Sunday with a special guest. well, that's what this is. People want to come and play football for us. They want to be here. And so this becomes the gathering place where we have a chance to impact lives. And ideally, that's what the kingdom of God was meant to be about. Thy kingdom come, thou will be done on earth in my environment, in my world, as it is in heaven. That's the way Jesus taught us to pray. And that's

supposed to be part, in fact, the center of our belief system is that, yes, we have been given life so that we can give life in the gathering place that we happen to be a part of. This is what I know. I told somebody, I said, you know, it's a shame. I wasn't like a brain surgeon because then I'd be really turning out brain surgeons here from the school. I said, but I'm an old football coach and so we just turn out football players and we hope that they make a difference for the lord at the next level well the series is called god family and football again it's on fox nation right now you'll follow this journey of a football season the wins of the losses but the the long-term project you'll see right there in in the heart of america shreveport louisiana and you'll see

head coach and chancellor denny duran right there i appreciate you jump it on with us telling us about the show and and uh and for everything you're doing out there in louisiana oh thank you and thank you for having me and i'll see you sunday okay thank you coach appreciate that i assume he's talking about fox and friends um all right thank you for being with us today that's going to do it for us today big long show but a lot covered a lot of fun um we're going to do it again how about that same time same place tomorrow i'll see you next time Listen ad-free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple podcast, and Amazon Prime members. You can listen to this show, ad-free on the Amazon music app.

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