Will Cain Country - Media Silent On Horrific Charlotte Attack! (ft. Jeff Selingo)
Episode Date: September 8, 2025Story #1: As more comes to light around a horrific murder of a young woman, Iryna Zyrutska, on the Charlotte light rail, Will exposes how decades of soft-on-crime policies, cashless bail, and politic...al deflection from leaders like Lori Lightfoot and Brandon Johnson enable the same offenders to terrorize the same victims and why the national media has buried the story. Story #2: Author of 'Dream School,' Jeff Selingo, joins Will to rethink how parents and students should choose colleges. Instead of chasing Ivy League rejection rates, Selingo lays out what really matters: regional networks, affordable tuition, internships, and professors who mentor students. He reveals surprising “dream schools” where graduates earn just as much as those from elite universities without the crushing debt. Story #3: Will and The Crew dive into Josh Allen's incredible miracle comeback over the Ravens. Plus, a "Karen" berates a father and takes a baseball away from a boy on his birthday at Phillies game. Subscribe to 'Will Cain Country' on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country! Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Murder.
One, horrific murder on the Charlotte Light Rail.
Why is there zero coverage from the media?
Two, dream school, picking your perfect college.
Three, 16 points in two minutes.
Incredible comeback by the Buffalo Bills over the Baltimore Ravens
as we kick off the NFL.
It is Wilcane Country streaming live at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel on the Fox News Facebook page.
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Welcome to a new week. Welcome to Wilcane Country. Tenfoil Pat, two a days, Dan, and an absolutely exciting weekend where we put points on the board.
You've never seen a more celebrated missed 45-yard field goal.
The first header off of a corner and doves flying on what should be a national holiday as we've opened up dove season.
And that's just the weekend for the canes.
We're going to get all into that coming up a little bit later here on Will Cain Country.
But let's get right to the biggest story of the weekend, a story that's rocking the nation,
A story that is hard to watch, but must be heard, a story that has demanded the attention of President Donald Trump.
Story number one.
Charlotte, North Carolina, Charlotte Light Rail, a young woman, a refugee from Ukraine, walks on to the light rail and simply takes a seat.
She makes the mistake of sitting directly in front of DeCarlos Brown.
arrested something like 14 times in his life, something about the presence of this Ukrainian
refugee, simply provoked to Carlos Brown. He reaches into his pocket, he pulls out a knife
and he commits murder. Nothing more, nothing less to that story. Just simple, horrific murder.
This video is hard to watch.
play now for you exactly what happened on the Charlotte light rail.
Ilya Zarutzka in her early 20s walks on to the train and sits down in a two-person seat
directly behind her as I mentioned is De Carlos Brown slumped over in a red hoodie, long
braids, head leaning against the window.
all of about 15 seconds, tops, elapses as he reaches into his pocket and pulls out a folding knife.
He stands up, he swings, stabbing Ilya in her throat more than once.
She's pronounced dead on the scene.
Brown walks up and down the train.
Many other passengers seem somewhat ignorant of what's gone on.
And the only way they're alerted as to the situation is he's literally dripping blood all over the plane.
Another passenger standing there feels something wet, hit his leg, and looks down and looks back up and sees blood trailing up and down the middle of the train.
De Carlos Brown was arrested at the hospital.
It wasn't his first time being arrested.
Brown has been arrested on 14 occasions.
his mugshot and his rap sheet.
In the words of transportation, Secretary Sean Duffy is long as a receipt from CVS.
Throughout his life, multiple judges, multiple prosecutors responsible for ensuring that this man remains on the streets of Charlotte.
It is absolutely horrific.
It's horrific in its randomness and it's horrific in its simplicity.
There's absolutely zero provocation.
There's absolutely zero expectation at some point either because you've become accustomed to seeing an altercation or you've become accustomed to the justifications after the fact from those that always take the side of the offender.
There's simply nothing more to be said than this was random, unexpected, horrific murder.
And it is part of a larger conversation at this point of conversation we're having in this country about crime.
urban crime
crime that has provoked
the federal government
President Donald Trump suggests
it is time to send the National Guard into
Washington, D.C. It's time to send the
National Guard into Chicago.
It's time to send the National Guard
into New Orleans.
And
President Trump was asked about
Charlotte.
There was also a horrible killing
recently in Charlotte, where I talked
about, and so many others, and we will
we're going to get to the end of it
and you know when you have horrible killings
you have to take horrible actions
and the actions that we take are nothing
this cashless bail
started a wave in our country
where a killer kills somebody
and is out on the street by the afternoon
in many cases going out and killing again
cashless bail and you
crime and cashless bail
is not as random as it might appear
in this video from Charlotte
But new details, new data out of New York City show that most of the crime that occurs on the New York City subway is committed by a total of about 63 individuals, 63 repeat offenders in New York City commit the vast majority of crimes on that subway.
And that story is one that is played out across the United States.
Last week we talked to you about the concept of recidivism.
The people that commit crimes are a small and chronic.
group that continue to commit crimes from early life through adulthood.
They are the ones that plague our society.
These are parasites that prey on the innocent.
These are parasites that prey on the civilized.
And it is that way in Chicago.
It is that way in New York.
It is that way in New Orleans.
It is that way in your city, in your state.
It's that way in America.
If you're putting a fine point on it, the victims of most of these crimes are minorities.
More often than not, black.
And the perpetrators of these crimes are most often minorities, and more often than not black.
If you want to solve the problems of crime in this country, you would start with addressing the truth.
But you cannot get the truth from the national media.
Elon Musk points out that if you search the New York Times, at least as of early this morning,
you would see exactly zero entries under the name Irya-irna Zerutska.
The victim in Charlotte.
Zero stories.
CNN, Dane, to put it up earlier this morning,
they put it in old school terms of news below the fold.
Below the fold is a newspaper term.
You used to receive your newspaper folded in half.
The top stories on top of the fold,
screaming in headlines.
The smaller stories below the fold,
the bottom half of the first page.
CNN plays.
the story of Zarutska this morning
below the fold.
But at least it was addressed, at least as of
early this morning, because here's what you
see from the rest of the media.
Elon Musk
retweeting, end-wokeness.
Zero AP stories
of this deadly attack. Zero PBS
stories. Zero New York
Times stories. Zero
NPR stories. Zero
Wall Street Journal stories
of this deadly
attack.
Senator Ted Cruz of Texas posted the corporate media is fundamentally corrupt and dishonest.
Why would this story be absolutely missing from your national conversation?
Why would you not know unless you were on X?
At this point, unless you were watching Fox News.
Why, for example, if we go back to Elon Musk's post on X, why would you get zero stories about
Irna Zerutska, but if you search Daniel Penny on the New York Times, you get over 100 results.
Why 100 results for Daniel Penny and zero for Irna Zerutska?
And the answer quite simply is race.
Because there is a story, and I mean that in all caps, a story, a narrative that must be told by the media.
And this story doesn't fit the all-caps story.
This story supports Donald Trump's moves to clean up crime in D.C. in Chicago and in New Orleans.
It supports Donald Trump's use of the National Guard.
Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker, Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson.
Baltimore mayor Brandon Scott.
They tell you there is no problem that this is political.
This is manufactured in the words of former Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot.
This is being used by Donald Trump to start the federal takeover of the United States.
But when Don Lemon ventures onto the streets of Baltimore and asks black residents of Baltimore,
what do you think about Donald Trump bringing in the National Guard?
He's met with surprise and an answer.
I think it would be good.
Why? Crime.
Is crime bad here?
Ooh, it's really bad in Baltimore.
By the way, while we're talking about Don Lemon, let's just take a moment.
moment to appreciate the journalism that he is conducting today as essentially Johnny for Jesse
Waters' prime time. Man on the street where you don't always know what you're going to get.
Here's a little clip of Don Lemon interacting with the people.
How you doing, sir? Can we talk to you? Where are you from? Do you live in New York?
Don, Lemon. You're a morrow, dude. Thank you. So are you.
Yeah, that's very nice to say. Except you've never heard anything I've had to say, and I've had a whole bunch of
what you've got to say. I'm glad you watch me. No, I don't.
Why? But you just get clipped everywhere.
I know, but why don't you...
You said you don't watch me, but you know who I am and I get clipped.
Before I realize CNN and MSNBC were foolish shit, every once in a while I'd see you're looking.
I watch all sorts of stuff.
Yeah, but why do you say CNN and MSNBC of foolish shit?
Because they lie.
But about what?
Be specific.
Everything.
Everything.
Everything.
Give that man the microphone.
Give that man a show.
That man, by the way, was flawless.
There's a little trick in man on the street or in journalism that you can use to try to throw somebody who's not used to a camera and a microphone sort of on their heels.
Get them wobbling.
That man wouldn't wobble.
I know you.
Yeah.
You're a moron.
Yeah, well, you're a moron too, says Don Lemon.
And the man says in response, yeah, the difference is that I've heard a lot of what you've had to say.
You've heard nothing from what I've had to say.
I mean
Hook
With Miss from Lemon
Uppercut from Man on the Street
And it just keeps getting better
From there
I've seen you
Oh you must watch me
Oh you're one of these people that say they hate me
But you watch me
Always a little nice trick
You assume that anyone who's familiar with you
Must be a fan
No, you're clipped up and sent everywhere
Usually I'm sure under the caption
Moron
what an incredible man on the street by the way bravo nice work don lemon so if the people of
baltimore and the people of chicago if the victims of these crimes if the residents of these
neighborhoods if black americans are crying out for help when it comes to crime then why don't
you get to hear about it when there is crime well in part it's because of charts like the one
i'm showing you here today if you're watching will can country on
YouTube or on Facebook. Take a look at your screen. If you're listening on radio or podcasts, I'm going to
describe for you this meme. It is a meme. It is a chart. And the stats come from the Bureau of
Justice Statistics. The top of the chart says interracial violent crime incidents 2025. That's
incorrect. From what we can tell, these stats are real, but they come from 2018. And it reads as
follows. Picture in your mind, if you can. Hispanic, white, black. On the far right of the
graph is Hispanic on black crime 44,500 for the year. Hispanic on white crime, 365,300. Now let's move to the
middle of the graph. White on Hispanic, white on black. White on Hispanic, 207,000. White on black,
59,778. Now we'll move to the far end of the chart. Black on Hispanic and black on white.
Black on Hispanic crime, 112,365.
Lower than Hispanic on white, black on Hispanic, third, after white on Hispanic.
And then black on white crime, 547,948, by far the largest number, by far the biggest bar on this bar graph.
But in the foreground of this image is a television screen, a camera and a camera operator.
And it's a zoomed in image through the lens.
And all you see are not any of these other graphs, not any of these other bars, not any of these other numbers I've just shared with you.
Simply the white-on-black portion of this graph, 59,778, the second lowest number after Hispanic on black.
The entire news coverage is devoted to this one category, the second lowest category on your chart.
And why is that?
Because of the story, all caps, S-T-O-R-Y.
what you're told, the narrative, not the facts, but the story.
And that is illustrated.
Once again, by going back to the New York Times and searching Irna Zerutska, zero,
and searching Daniel Penny, a white man, a former Marine on the subway that protects other subway riders
by subduing a homeless criminal black man who dies in the interaction,
and you get over 100 stories.
Which one deserves that level of coverage?
Which one presents a more realistic, not anecdote,
but illustration of the problems that plague our society.
I think you know the answer.
I think the stats bear it out.
I think whether or not you're white,
you're black, or you're Hispanic,
and your everyday interactions,
you know exactly what impacts your quality of life.
and your media is corrupt because they are
focused on telling you the capitals
S-T-O-R-Y, the narrative, their story.
There is no excuse for this lack of coverage.
There is no, well, it's a small, single crime
in one mid-sized regional city.
It is part of a story that is,
Now a national conversation, Washington, D.C., Chicago, New Orleans, Los Angeles.
And you're hearing from people, white, black, Hispanic, about their quality of life in their cities.
Don't give me statistics.
Statistics are cold.
Statistics are black and white numbers.
Statistics do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the people who elect their representatives
to implement the will of the people.
and what matters the most of people is what
their quality of life? Can they afford to buy groceries? Can they
feel safe walking down the street?
If you don't think that's your job in the media
to tell the story of the people
find a new job
several of you already have paid directly
by the DNC. And if you're a politician that ignores all of this
for your own electoral gain
by continuing the story.
Well, hopefully the end of this story is the end of your career in America.
For the rest of you there, beginning your career,
or you have a child who's looking to begin his career.
This is certainly a debate right now in the cane household where I have a senior in high school.
Where is the best place to go?
What's the best college?
Better yet, what is your dream school?
You can open up the U.S. News and World Report, and you can find your top 50.
You can focus on Ivy.
You can get the reputation.
But is there not a separate list, a different list of actual dream schools?
If you're from Minnesota, should you go to Princeton or should you go to the University of Minnesota?
If you're from Mississippi, should you go to Ole Miss or should you go to Vanderbilt?
Let's come up with a new list of actual dream schools.
with Jeff Selingo, the author of Dream School,
finding the college that's right for you.
Next on Wilcane Country.
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My boy, Charlie Cain, would have been good from 55, but doink the upright at 45.
It is Will Cain Country streaming live at the Will Cain Country YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page, and always available at Spotify or on Apple.
Hey, Jasmine Crockett did weigh in on crime, and it is not to suggest maybe we should have better coverage or maybe politicians should do something, or maybe we should send in the National Guard.
No, perhaps bad timing for Jasmine Crockett right after this horrific murder, which, by the way, was last month in Charlotte by DeC Carlos Brown.
She says, you know, not all crimes deserve punishment.
We need to actually look for what is causing the failure in the system for a guy like DeCarlos Brown.
Here's Jasmine Crockett.
In fact, my elected prosecutor in Dallas County, he kind of caught some flat because he probably shouldn't have said it out loud.
But he specifically said, if I get people that are getting charged with a low-level misdemeanor for going and still in food, diapers, like basic necessities because they literally can't afford it.
He's out of desperation.
Yeah, he's like, I'm not locking you up, right?
And granted, like, there is no good point in doing it because a decent defense attorney would have a defense.
offense would be, hey, I needed it. The excuse for a misdemeanor that the accused for theft is
poverty. You're just a victim of the system. Part of me really wants to make fun of Jasmine
Crocket for the fact that she does this interview from home in front of a rack of shoes.
Like a Melda Marcos, all she did is sit there and talk in front of literally like six, ten rows
high of shoes. Part of me wants to make fun of it, but the other part of me wants to get a rack
of cowboy boots and put them behind me. So I really don't know if I should make fun of Jasmine
or embrace Jasmine.
Tenfoil Pat, two of a day, Dan,
here's how it went down,
and this is why it matters right now.
45-yard attempt, winning 14 to nothing,
rarely gets to attempt a field goal,
but perfect on extra points.
13 for 13 this year on extra points.
Probably puts him among the leaders
on his team in small,
private school football in Dallas.
But nonetheless, perfect on extra points.
Trot it out for a 45-yarder.
There's nothing worse than being a kicker's dad.
I can just tell you this.
There's nothing worse.
There's so much pressure.
It's like, you know, if your kid plays quarterback, actually quarterback dads,
the quarterback dad and I were saying,
maybe we should just sit together separate from the rest of the parents
because it's pretty unforgiving with the quarterback as well.
But as a viewer or fan stands, you watch so much college and pro football.
Better yet, we all watch so much pro football that you expect every level you go down it to look the same.
you know and it's not fair this is kind of part of the arch manning conversation it's not
fair to ask arch to look like eli or peyton give him some time and he by the way didn't look
great it's the weirdest thing he threw for four touchdowns this weekend and you still walk
away going eh i don't know about arch my point is still arch is what 19 20 years old and um you know
then you go down to high school and maybe the best place is offensive and defensive line because
that's where you see the breakdown you know they're just
not what you're used to seeing in the NFL. And yet you're like, yeah, but they're 15, 16 years
old, right? But then a kicker comes out there and you're so used to seeing, you know,
Brandon Aubrey or Steelers, Chris Boswell, nail a 60 yarder. You're like, oh, it's just,
it's just a 40-yarder. It's just, it's going to be no problem. It's a 40-yarder. And I'm like,
oh my God, he's trying a 45-yarder. First of all, I can't believe they gave him the opportunity.
second oh my god so you know here's another thing the whole operation the lower you go the operation
you know what i'm talking about the snap the um the the long the long snap the hold the kick is
blocking the whole thing it's a jailbreak it's basically a jail break so many things you're wrong
scary as i'll get out so many two days so many okay and you know god bless the holder that job
I actually have a lot of respect for the holder.
That's a lot of pressure coming.
You got to, anyway, they put it down, 45 yards.
It's up, it's up.
Oh, my God, it's got plenty of distance.
It's way up there.
How high is it?
Everybody's going, oh, my gosh, and then doink.
And the whole thing rattles, and you can hear the noise as it goes off the top of the upright.
The echo, I'm sure.
And, I mean, I couldn't love the other parents in the high school enough.
They were all just like, oh, my God, that would have been good from 55, maybe 60.
thing was way up there. And I'm like, yeah, but it's got to go through the upright.
It's said. Didn't go through. And I mean, I had some friends on the opposing team sidelines.
I wouldn't talk to them. Like, oh, my God, you're saying, like, you guys are so nice.
He was so mad. He was like, now I can't say, what's your longest ever, 45 yards. He's like,
I didn't make it. I wouldn't be able to sleep. You know, what I, what he hasn't learned yet is
this is actually the better story. You know what I mean? Like, you got a story for life here.
a lot of people really not like do you think he can kick in college i'm like no uh i don't think he
wants to i'm not being mean to him ed you know like you know we're all just real maybe hey if he
trained i saw whose kicker was it this weekend it was it was a high school kicker i mean a college
kicker and um who was it they said he was working at home depot in amazon deliveries and they
got him to come back the kickers come out of nowhere these days brandon obrie came out of nowhere
But my point is, on the colleges, I don't think it's my boy Charlie's path to his dream school.
I don't think.
I'm not a pessimist.
But I think there's another path to his dream school.
So let's find out what that might be.
Jeff Serlingo is the author of Dream School, Finding the College that's Right for You.
And he joins us now on Will Kane Country.
What's up, Jeff?
Glad to have you on the show.
Great to be here, Will.
Thanks a lot.
I got your book in the mail.
I set it right there on the counter
where breakfast has had every morning
I got a senior in high school
I said maybe here we go
find your dream school
let's start here Jeff
there's a lot of parents
and a lot of kids by the way
and I just happen to be in your target demo right now
that think about this a lot
there's a certain number of schools
that have sort of dominated
the mass conception of dream school
for a long time
but you've thought about it a different way
and I'm curious
as we get into the detail
If you'd share with this, what you've kind of come away with are what should be your dream schools?
Do you have a list? Like, what's everybody overlooking that could actually be your dream school?
So first of all, when we think of dream schools, we think of those schools at the top of the rankings.
US News and World Report, Forbes, Princeton Review.
Across the top 10 of those universities, the average acceptance rate is 7%, which means that 93% are getting rejected from those places.
So if those are your dream schools, sorry to say, you're probably not getting in.
And so my whole conception of dream school was to stop thinking about a single place or a single type of place and really turn it on its head and think about what do we need college to do for us, right?
When we go to college, what do we want from it?
And most of all, by the way, students and parents, they all want a job.
They want to have a place where their kids are going to make good friends, right?
Find their people.
Those are the two big things that I heard over and over again.
I did a survey of 3,000 plus parents for this book.
And all of them, the number one thing they said they wanted their kids to find a fulfilling job, a good paying job, and good friends.
And so I went out and I looked at the data that showed which colleges provide those things.
But more than that, which colleges you can actually get into.
So I have a list of 75 new dream schools in this book that have an acceptance.
rate of at least 20%, and many of them have 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 percent.
In other words, these are places that are both good, but more than that, you can get into
them.
Okay, of these 75 dream schools that you identify, I don't know if you rank them.
If you did rank them, share with me your top five to ten.
Just as an example, because what I hear you saying and what I take away is the truth is,
it should be highly tailored to you.
And we're going to get into some of the details of why
in terms of regionality,
cost, size,
and so forth. But
setting aside the individualized nature
of it for a moment, give me some examples.
Give me your top five to ten.
Okay, so I'm going to give a bunch here.
Southern Methodist
University, SMU,
Florida International University,
Michigan State. Everybody thinks of Michigan,
Michigan State, the University
of Connecticut.
Washington State University.
So those are some big state universities.
Let's throw a few privates in there as well.
Let's think about places like Case Western Reserve University
in Cleveland, Denison University nearby in Columbus,
St. Olaf up in Minnesota,
or Dickinson University in Southern Pennsylvania.
What all of these places have in common, by the way,
beyond the fact that you're able to get in,
is we were able to look at data of their graduates
five and 10 years out.
And what you would be amazed at is that their average salaries
actually overlap with the average salaries
of those from more selective universities.
That's the thing.
We think that like if you go to an Ivy
or you go to one of these really hard to get into public universities,
that you're gonna be way out in front
in terms of earnings.
And what ends up happening is we over index on the
outliers there. We look at the people who got the highest salaries rather than the average
salaries. And when we're talking about average salaries, there's a lot more overlap with these
schools. Okay, I want to dig into a couple of schools you mentioned because I did see a little bit
of a black cat inside of that grouping. I saw a little bit like a black sheep in the herd that
didn't quite fit, at least in me trying to make some generalizations from your list. But I'm going to
set that side for just one moment. I want to talk to you.
about two elements, and then we'll come back to the list that you offered. Let's start with
something that I preach to my son a lot. That is the element of regionality. So I went away to
college. I'm from Texas. I live in Texas. My career has taken me a few different places in my
life. But my culture, my people, and ultimately, I think my job market was going to be in Texas.
That was the fat part of the bell curve of probabilities for my life.
And yet I went away to school in California, a great school that I loved in Pepperdine.
But my wife went away in the same way.
I have other people in my life I know that have gone away to school.
Now, I did it that way.
And I know the price you pay in doing that.
There's a lot of pros.
You expose yourself to different people, different environments.
You grow as a human being.
But the price that you pay is a sacrifice in the networking.
and career opportunities and social connections that you make.
I have a lot of friends, but I don't get to see them
because they're in California or scattered across the country,
where my friends in Texas that went to schools in Texas
maintain lifelong, frequent friendships, and business networks.
So I have preached, basically what I think you're preaching as well here,
regionality.
No doubt about it.
Most kids actually go to college within 75 to 100 miles of home.
Like this idea that you're going to go states away like you did,
it doesn't really happen for a lot of people.
They're mostly going to look at, you know, a couple of big publics within their state and so forth.
And so when we actually put together this list of 75, we made sure that there was kind of geographic diversity
because most people are going to go within their region or even within their state.
They're also going to look at a mix of publics and privates, right?
You went to Pepperdine, a private, but 60% of students are going to go to probably a big public
because they want football, Greek life, all that stuff.
and so we also wanted to make sure
there were a lot of publics
on this list as well
but not just that
not just the likelihood
of a kid going to school
close to where he's from
but I've said this as well
and you know I think there's a lot of employers
that might disagree with me
I did come back and I went to law school
in the state of Texas at the University of Texas
and I would argue
you know if you came to Dallas
and this applies to any state I'm not trying to make this
particular to Texas if you grew up in Ohio
or Florida or
you know, Arizona. For Texas, I would say that an SMU or a UT law degree is as valuable as a Harvard
or Yale law degree. Now, that being said, Harvard and Yale do carry a reputation. They simply do.
But you're not gaining that much if your goal is to end up back in your region. You know what I mean?
I think that it's not just likelihood and probability, but it's local reputation that matters as well.
And I think that probably applies to undergrad.
If you live in Florida, you know, what's a University of Florida degree for your potential employment versus a Princeton degree?
Well, think about it because most of the network is going to be more closely associated with that school within a region, right?
Those are the people that are, and we saw this, by the way, and the data that we collected for the book, that most of those graduates are going to go within a certain number of states around that university.
That means those people are going to be hiring.
They're going to be the hiring managers.
They're eventually, by the way, going to move up into senior leadership, CEO, and things like that.
And so they're going to be the ones that are going to come back to campus.
They're going to help get your resume into the job market and things like that.
So you're right.
There's no doubt about it that those bonds are much stronger in the regions that you go to.
And the other thing that your question brings up is that you can actually go to a, quote, unquote, less selective place as an undergraduate.
and still go to the Harvard's and the Yales of the world.
Every year I look at the list of undergraduate colleges
that the new class of one L's first year students
at Harvard went to, like they are a mix of colleges
and universities around the country.
So you don't have to go to like these top ranked
undergraduate colleges.
In fact, it's better to be that smaller fish
in a, or a big fish in a smaller sea,
because you're actually gonna do better as an undergraduate
and then you could really knock it out of the park
and get into a better graduate school,
if that's what you think is a better graduate school.
Well, I'd let follow up on that for a minute.
Big fish, small pond.
You know, I feel like I've had conversations with others
where they've argued, yeah,
but you rise to the level of your competition
and you rise to the level of your surroundings.
And I only amend my language there
because not everybody's competition,
but, you know, the famous saying is what?
that you are an average of the five people you spend the most time with in your life.
That's kind of who you end up being.
So isn't that an argument for going to a tougher school and not being the big fish?
It could also work the other way.
And in fact, we have data in the book that shows you go, everybody thinks, well, I want to swim along with all the tough fish in the sea, right?
Well, it ends up that you go to these schools, first of all, the competition is a lot harder than it was in your local high school.
Because remember, your local high school might have this much of a geographic area.
Now you have the rest of the world at some of these highly selected places.
They're also really competitive.
One of the things I heard from all of these students I talked to is that there's competition to get into every club, every class.
It's like a constant competition and the sharks come out in some of these places, right?
And so we saw data in the book that actually in some cases you might be better off being that bigger fish, even if it's a bigger sea.
I met a mother in Houston whose kid went off to major in electrical engineering at Stanford,
ended up dropping out of not only the major, but of Stanford.
His backup school was Texas A&M.
Given the data on him, he would have actually been better off at Texas A&M.
Would have had a lot more support from the faculty,
because you know what the faculty said to him at Stanford, eh, you're a dime a dozen here.
Like, that's okay if you fail because we have 20 other kids who are going to do better.
At Texas A&M, they would have helped them.
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welcome back to will cane country so then let's talk about now cost there's such a wide range on cost
and this is a little bit why i wanted i identified quite honestly i identified SMU as your black sheep
in the description of others.
I can't speak to the cost of the other private institutions
that you brought up in Ohio and Pennsylvania,
Dickinson, Case Western.
But I mean, SMU is one of the most expensive colleges
in the country, as is TCU, as is Pepperdine, as is Pepperdine.
And I wonder, you know, my friends and I often talk about this,
like, what's the point in it being that expensive?
It's so expensive.
What are you getting out of that?
versus a cheaper state school or even a cheaper private school.
I mean, for most of the three we just mentioned,
you're talking about 80 grand a year for SMU-TCU Pepperdine,
up to 90 grand a year.
That's a lot of money.
Is it worth the value?
Well, and it's a question that I ask in the book,
and increasingly it's not.
A lot of parents are skipping over these schools,
even if, by the way, they can afford it
to go to a cheaper out-of-state option.
But they're also looking at places that offer them big distancing.
discounts. You know, the prices that you just quote it, that's right. That's their sticker price.
Increasingly, though, in a weird way, they're like any retailer now. They're like Macy's or Coles, which, you know, charge this, but give you these coupons that you walk in the door and you get a discount, even if you could afford to pay full price. And that's increasingly in what's happening, even at the SMUs of the world, where they're giving you these big discount coupons, $10,000, $20,000 off that sticker price because they want you. And they know,
that even if they give you $20,000
off, you're still going to bring $50,000 or
$60,000 in the door, which still
is helpful. So many of these
private colleges offer
these discounts. In fact, the average
discount now at an American
private college is 55
percent, half off, essentially.
So
a lot of people are not paying that.
Some are. That's
really fair. And I have noticed
that. I have noticed,
like you said, up to 50 percent,
seems easily, not easily, but available if you want to go to one of these more expensive colleges.
Okay, now we factored, we factored regionality in, we factored finance in.
You talk about in the book a couple of different things that you should think about, essentially your ROI, your return on investment when it comes to college.
And that is internships, skills, and networking.
And I would use networking as your contemporaries, so that's your friendship group, your people that you,
you hope to be around for the rest of your life.
Internship is sort of networking up, older people getting jobs and skills.
The one, by the way, that I am the least sold on actually is skills.
Because I still wonder how much college actually gives you in terms of skills and preparedness
for the real world.
It's often, and maybe because I'm a liberal arts guy, I didn't go biology.
You know, I didn't go engineering.
You know, it's more teaching you how to think and a broader base of knowledge than you
learn your skills on the job. But let's talk about those three things in how you measure your dream
school. Well, we actually found, and you're right, most colleges don't teach real skills, but a lot of
the dream schools in my list. So for example, I mentioned Denison University earlier near Columbus, Ohio.
They actually in not only during winter break, but during the summer, offer these skill-based
courses that give students like real-world skills. They learn how to use, you know, Microsoft
Excel or they might get certified in AWS or they might get project management certification.
They actually give students real skills.
So, for example, if you're a history major there, a great liberal arts major, you know,
if you're a great history major, most employers will want to know, can you visualize data?
Can you give us these really nice visualizations of data?
Well, Denison will give you that degree in history, but they will also give you a credential
in data visualization, which will help you get a job.
In fact, we see this in the data that if you have a degree but have very specific skills,
say you're a marketing major, but you know data analytics on top of that.
Like, if you know, Adobe Photoshop and you're a journalism major or whatever it might be,
like those things really help.
The problem is most colleges don't teach them.
So one of the things I looked at when I was listing these schools is what are those
that actually give you real world skills, hands-on skills that employers actually want?
because most colleges don't do that.
But the hard thing about that, Jeff,
is that skills are so perishable.
You know, I was a broadcast journalism major.
I ended up going to law school,
but I don't know that anything I necessarily learned
as a broadcast journalism major,
which is a little bit of a skills-based major,
is applicable to what I do,
and I'm literally in broadcast journalism today.
I'm not sure it's applicable to what I do
because, look, nobody's using any tapes around here.
You know, no one's, I don't know,
all the different things that we did,
those are 30 years gone, 20 years going.
I was a broadcast major too, by the way.
We used to cut the tape literally for the
reel to reel back then, right?
Like that is definitely a skill no one uses today.
And by the way, forget broadcast journalism.
AI is doing that to every job.
So like the nitty gritty skills everybody's learning.
Now listen, I want to like tip my hat and give respect
to the people that learn real skills in college,
like engineers, you know, or doctors.
But I actually don't think anybody's safe.
Nobody's safe from AI making every skill perishable.
So it's like, what do we?
You know about it.
And I think that's the difference between us.
Yeah.
I think that's the difference between a skill and a degree, right?
Like, so the skills I was just pointing out like a dentist and will give you, they're done
in like two or three week courses.
They don't take, they're not the degree itself.
They're in addition to the degree.
The University of Texas is doing this now and in a lot.
of their majors. So it's not as a replacement for the major. I think the difference for us in
broadcast journalism was it was the major. Rather, what this is as, you know, integrated into
the major in a way. Because you're right, a skill you learned today is probably going to be out of
date. I would even argue by the time you even graduate sometimes from college. So I, what I'm
arguing for in this book is that a skill is an add on or an integrate. I'm not adding on to the number
of years, but it's added on to those core courses that you're going to take where you're going to
learn about history and economics, learn how to write, learn how to think. Those are much more
important over the long run. And by the way, I think are more durable in a world where AI could
do a lot more jobs. Totally. Kids come to me, by the way, Jeff, and say, oh, I think I want to do
what you do for a living. And actually, even in my kids high school, I think I really disappointed.
pointed the teacher because I said, I don't really think a journalism degree is the thing to pursue
even, or even journalism focused. Now, that being said, what journalism can teach someone is how to
write, and writing should be the translation of your thoughts, the crystallization, formalization,
and laying out of your thoughts. And that's durable. But, and even if it's not, and even if you
have chatbots who write for you, the writing is simply a mechanism for helping you form and
lay out your thoughts.
So, I mean, what I think in this new environment and this new job market, this new world
is that I hope my kids come out of this with is the ability to pivot, turn, be resilient,
critically think, analyze opportunity, and doing that from a base of knowledge.
And, you know, I don't know.
I don't know how to really analyze a school for that, to be honest, Jeff.
Well, I think what you want to do is look at where are they going to
get the best professors who are actually going to spend time with them. So one of the things that
we talk about in the book, because most parents want their kids to be have a mentor. That could be a
coach. That could be a advisor to a club. But mostly that's a lot of times that's going to be a
professor because you spend most of the time in college in your classroom. How do you vet that though?
You don't meet professors during the application process and you don't even meet professors
if you really wanted to. So how do you vet professors? I've been on tours, right? Like asked to go into
a class, sit in on a class if you can, right? Like walk down the academic hallways of the offices
and see if professors are in their office and knock on a door of a professor that might be in the
major that you're thinking about. Ask other students. I always ask other students like,
tell me about your favorite professors. What were your classes like? Have them talk about
what worked and what doesn't work in their classes. I think current students, by the way,
not the tour guide, but current students, especially in your major, are a wealth of knowledge that
most students because colleges kind of keep you away from them on the tour most students if you
can find them and i think you can find them a lot now through LinkedIn and other things
hey what do you think of this major what do you think of the professors in this major
okay last um what i have come to fully appreciate more and more than when i was younger
jeff is the internship and you put that in because i don't know if other parents are different or
other kids are different um i don't think you need to know what you're going to be
in your life or what you're going to do at the age of 17 and 18.
And college should be a process of figuring that out, you know.
And there's no better way to figure that out, I think, then the internship.
Like, I think I want to do X for a living.
And then you go do an internship and you're like, I definitely don't want to do X for a living.
Or I love why.
And so how do you factor in internships, how easily colleges are placing or how proactive they are
and placing kids into various internships and jobs?
I want to go into career services.
I want to see where do the kids in my main,
major intern, especially by the way that junior to senior year internship is absolutely critical
because now most big employers, they don't trust hiring like a kid off the street.
And so they really want to hire from their intern pools.
So a lot of companies are hiring 75, 80 percent of their new hires are coming from their
interim pool.
So you really want to know.
And if colleges say, oh, we don't really know, why not?
Why don't you know?
By the way, that goes back to this mentoring thing.
If professors are keeping in touch with students, they should know.
know where are their kids last year interned? So that's definitely a question you want to know.
And the data again shows you're more likely to be underemployed, meaning in a job that doesn't
require a bachelor's degree if you don't have at least one internship in college. Internships are
just critical to getting that job after college. Let's play quick game. It's a game that you play
in dream school. You take a young man, William, and I believe he's from the state of Minnesota.
and he is, I believe, was it Princeton?
He was considering or went to Princeton.
Yeah, went to Columbia, Ivy League, New York City.
And positing that against the University of Minnesota, big state school, where he's from.
Tell me how that works on which actually is his dream school.
So his dream school was Columbia.
He gets in.
He thinks he won the lottery.
He gets there.
And as he says, the high of the wind wears off very quickly.
he can't get into a class that he really wants.
His advisor says, oh, you'll be lucky if he get into that class junior year.
He wants to do research with the professor.
His advisor again says, they don't like undergraduate.
That professor doesn't even work with undergraduates,
so you're never going to have a chance to do that.
Everything's a competition.
It's a competition to get into a club on campus.
It's a competition to get an internship.
You know, you're in New York City,
but nobody really wants to have fun and go out
because they're all again in competition with each other.
he goes home at Christmas break. He says to his mom, I want to transfer. At the end of the first year, he transfers to the University of Minnesota. He finds his people. He gets to do research with a professor. He finds a professor is just as good as at Columbia. And by the way, paying half the price.
Half the price. Let's do two more. That when you write about in the book, I'm going to give you two others. And know, I know this is hard for you because every kid is different, you know, and everybody's experience is different. But,
Let's take Jasmine from Arizona, right?
She's got Arizona and Arizona State available to her.
She's always her thought Vanderbilt.
Another great school, right, might be her school.
Long family, big family in the state of Arizona,
which means it's probably going to be a pullback to end up in Arizona.
How would you evaluate what would be a dream school for Jasmine?
University of Arizona, Arizona State.
I don't even know what else.
Grand Canyon versus Vanderbilt.
Well, Arizona State, by the way, will offer her the Barrett Honors College, which is a small college within a big university.
So she will have access to being at a small place just like Vanderbilt.
And by the way, with quality of students that are on par with Vanderbilt, hard to believe, by the way.
But these honors colleges at big publics are basically private colleges within the big public universities.
The other thing is she will be in just as a dynamic of an economy like Nashville in Phoenix.
at Arizona State University, because I teach there, is, and you go around campus and you
have, I was like, this guy knows a lot about Arizona State.
Yeah.
Well, it's because, you know, they have state farm there.
They have a bunch of other big companies right on campus.
And so you're going to have a chance to internship.
You're going to have a chance to intern there right on campus.
Plus, by the way, you're going to have just as much fun, you know, with the big state
university, the football, and being in Phoenix as you would in national.
So I'm a big fan. Full disclosure. I teach there. So big fan of the place.
Okay. Let me switch it up. Because here is something else that I see a lot. I see this a lot.
You know, I live in a state, and I'm sorry sometimes I make this a little bit Texas focus.
It's a place I know the most about. But it's really hard to get in the University of Texas because they've created, honestly, because the legislature or actually the university system created an affirmative action workaround.
the top 6% rule, means if you're in the top 6% of your high school, it's automatic entry.
And that just makes it hard if you're not in the top 6% at a very competitive high school
or whatever it may be, right? It's just really hard to get in. So what you've seen is
a lot of kids, and I tell everybody this all the time, go to Texas Tech. Like in five years,
Texas Tech is going to be awesome at sports, their applications are going to go through the roof,
their academic reputations up, and by the way, you're in the state of Texas, so you have a network.
But that's not what kids are doing, not right now. They are going to Auburn. They are going
to Georgia.
And they are twice as much.
Big state schools
out of state.
And so the big
out of state school
is a very popular
option right now.
And by the way,
it is all my friends
and colleagues live in New York.
They're sitting there's kids
to Clemson and South Carolina
and Alabama.
You know, the SEC
is very popular right now
because of sports and culture,
I would say.
But how do you evaluate that?
Like, state school
where I'm from?
State school far away.
Michigan's another one, right?
Michigan's a big draw for people all across the country.
You want to be, you want to go away, but in many of these places, they're very similar, right?
They're going to have big football in many of these state schools.
They're going to have Greek life.
They're going to have fun.
They're going to have, you're going to be surrounding.
You know, all these students say, well, I don't want to go to a place where all my kids from my high school went to.
But these places are so big that, you know, you're not going to run into kids who went to high school with you all the time.
And by the way, you're going to pay half the price as you would pay in these other places.
And so for the most part, unless you're getting a full scholarship at some of these other places or you're going to get into their honors college, there's no reason to really trade.
And really all the value then is on the college's side because you know what they're getting?
They're getting a student that pays twice as much.
They love that rather than an in-state student who's paying half as much.
So the college loves it.
It's not to your advantage.
All right.
Really good.
Last thing, just because I'm not curious.
You gave me a couple.
Private school options that don't break the bank that you think are in a sweet spot.
You named a couple like Case Western.
I know you, you know, that's another category.
So a couple of others.
We got we got Rochester Institute technology in upstate New York.
We got we got McAllister College in Minnesota.
another great one.
We got Furman University in South Carolina in Greenville, South Carolina, Elon University
in North Carolina, DePaul University in Illinois.
These are all places, by the way, that are accessible.
I hear these two a lot, Jeff.
Yeah, go ahead.
I hear Swani and High Point.
I often hear those two.
What do you think of those two colleges?
Yeah, I mean, they're good.
They didn't make my list, but that doesn't, by the way, this list is not meant to be exclusive.
there were a lot of colleges that didn't make the list.
I had to cut that off somewhere.
And, you know, in Elon in a North Carolina,
their outcomes are just really good and less cost.
Less cost.
And that's what it often is with private.
This is really good.
It's certainly applicable to my life.
Dream School.
Jeff Selingo, finding the college that's right for you.
It's out right now.
You should check it out.
I know it's hard for every parent, every kid out there.
My kid's got like seven he's applying to right now, I would say.
Seven.
So we've got to figure out which one, in fact, might be his dream school.
We got like two months, less, one month until the applications are due.
A couple months for the decisions.
And we'll be relying on dream school.
Thank you so much, Jeff.
No problem.
It's great to be with you, well.
Great to be with you as well.
There you go.
Check it out again.
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Two days, Dan, Ten Foil, Pat.
So I didn't get to watch a lot of football, actually,
and I saw you guys texting throughout the weekend
and, you know, giving me updates on various games.
I know, but I don't regret it at all.
I had an awesome weekend.
It was very sports-filled.
And, you know, Tenfoil's kids are a little younger than mine,
although he has a daughter, I believe.
I have a 16-year-old.
You know, the age of a 14-year-old.
You have a 16-year-old.
Fascinating to me.
Well, are you kids into sports?
Are you kids into sports?
Like watching them or playing them?
No, they're two different things.
Playing them.
They like to play.
They mostly play them at school.
They don't do like leagues or anything like that.
So it just dominates your life, is the point.
But it's such a wonderful domination.
Like, I'm going to give you my itinerary really quick.
So Fort Worth, Friday night, right after Will Kane show on the Fox News Channel,
I drive to Fort Worth, and it's high school football.
Saturday morning, my wife drives to Houston for a soccer game, and I have a soccer game
in Dallas, two different boys, right? Saturday afternoon, I went dove hunting. And, you know,
dove season starts September 1st. And it is, you know, I've always said my favorite hunting is
duck. Dove is up there. Dove is so fun. I took my oldest son. We went dove hunting Saturday
afternoon. So that was during college football. I didn't catch a lot. A little bit of Texas.
I ate some this weekend.
What is it like?
Do you know what it?
First of all, this is fun.
This is fun.
It's probably like a little chicken, right?
Two days.
I'm from Connecticut.
I don't know.
What is a dove?
What is a dove?
What does a dove look like?
It's like a pigeon up in New York City that we have.
Smaller, yes, because you got those fat pigeons on the streets of New York eating bagels.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Smaller.
so like a piece dove like the white ones
super fast
they're not white they're gray
they got
whitish bellies but you're thinking of the ones
you know Jesus
white turtle dove you're thinking that
holy ghost no one's out there
you know shooting stuff
nobody's shooting the holy ghost
don't shoot those but
you go dove hunting
it's nice weather it was what
70s eddies you wear a t-shirt
you post up
in a pasture or a field
somewhere. Wild sunflowers is what we have up here. And, you know, starting about 4 p.m., and I know
everybody thinks it's 6 to 8 a little later. Honestly, it was earlier for me on Saturday. They were
flying heavy at 4 or 5 p.m. trailed off about 6.30. Sunsets at 8.30. They just start flying,
man, everywhere. And they're like dive bombers coming in every direction. And they're super
fast. And, you know, to be honest, a little rusty on my dove shooting, you know, I should have limited.
It's 15.
Is your limit for the day?
Probably only got six or seven.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bird shot.
Yeah, I know something.
What is bird shot?
It's a cartridge that has pellets in it, right?
You can't really like kill somebody, but you can't, you can maim them.
Oh, you could kill somebody.
Oh, really?
There's birdshot and buckshot.
I know that.
So what's the difference?
One's harder.
Buckshot is...
I don't know, man.
I live in New York.
No, you're not doing bad.
I'm laughing.
I'm laughing, but you're not doing bad.
Not a bullet, right?
A bullet is for a handgun or a rifle.
A shell.
You said cartridge.
That's the word.
That's fine.
A shotgun shell.
A shotgun shell.
Inside the shotgun shell, it's full of BBs, right?
And you have basically slug through eight.
So think of slug as like,
a one or a zero, and then it goes two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. And you can get seven and a half and so forth. At eight, you're going to have a ton of BBs inside that shell, right? But they're all going to be small. So when it's shot, it immediately disperses like this and creates a pattern, a cloud of tiny BBs, right? That's for small animals that move fast. Because you're not going to pick them off, so you've got to create a pattern, right, and try to put your pattern out there where the bird flies into it. As you go down,
the bigger the animal, right? So you're hunting a duck. That's a bigger bird. Now you're like in the
six range, you know, four to six range of shot. You're going to hunt, some people hunt deer
with a shotgun show. And now you're, now you got buck shot. Now you got, or a slug. And a slug
is a solid piece of metal that just comes out. Um, yeah, you use seven and a half or eight
on dove. They're flying, I mean, and dive in. They're like, they're like, you know,
a kamikaze pilot going every which way.
and you shoot a lot
you will you will I don't know how many times
I missed a lot so
I burned through a lot of shells
but
it's social you can talk
it's warm it's nice I sat with my son
and it can be dangerous
like you said it can't kill you yes it can
yes it can any
any gun can kill you
and the dangerous part about dove hunting is
everybody's swinging their shotgun every which way
because the birds are coming everyone's way.
And you've got to be careful.
Sounds like a nightmare.
Swinging your shotgun into,
it is a little,
and I had a buddy text me
that he had an accident.
He said it wasn't catastrophic,
it could have been.
I haven't heard the story yet.
But Dove season starts on September 1st in Texas.
And so this first week or two,
it's everywhere.
Shotguns are singing out all over the countryside.
And the birds were really good this year
for whatever reason.
But it's not just the swinging.
You get a lot of guys.
We had a lot of guys.
And I mean, man, you can hear it.
Like, you can hear the percussion in the air.
Like, whoo, that one was, somebody shot in this direction.
You can hear it flying through the air.
And you can get peppered, too.
But the further away you are with this, the less dangerous it is.
Right.
So there was one time it sounded like rain, but it was just, it was, you know, shotgun pellets dropped the whole round.
They got to come down somewhere.
But that's exactly right.
Yeah.
Anyway, that was my afternoon on Saturday.
So I didn't get a lot of watch a lot of college football.
Sunday, I got up and flew to Austin for my other son's second soccer game.
He scored a header goal.
One of the first, he's 6-2, so he's got to be the guy getting headers.
An awesome assist, undefeated on the weekend.
So it was awesome.
Then we drove back three hours from Austin.
So I had to listen to pro football in the car until I got back and saw Sunday night football.
And what a game.
What a game.
Bill's Ravens
And if I'm being honest with you again
I fell asleep
Bill's down by 15
What was it?
Four minutes to go
Four minutes to go
And Josh Allen engineers
To come back off of a Derek Henry fumble
I watched the highlights this morning
Incredible
I almost went to bed
Incredible game
I saw the four minutes left
I'm like you know what
And then I was like
It's Josh Allen
Let's watch it
And sure enough.
Well, the stadium started to empty out.
Yeah.
People left.
I mean, you don't score 16 points in the final three, four minutes and win the game.
Yes, you do.
And they did.
He is him.
He is him.
By the way, missed extra point by the Ravens.
So just remember that.
That last field goal almost got blocked.
Did it?
The praetors almost got blocked.
It was real close.
I thought it was about to get blocked.
But, yeah.
No, it literally was, I think Hamilton touched it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it wasn't a good football weekend for me, fantasy-wise.
It appears, boys.
Same.
I'm in three leagues, and I'm starting 0-3.
I lost all my games in every league.
Every league.
I don't know what happened to Ed.
Like poorly?
I don't know.
Like, by a lot?
Or just?
Well, I mean, Jamar Chase was one of my guys, and he got four points.
Brian Thomas got eight points.
He even scored a touchdown.
And meanwhile, on my bench, guess who I had on my bench?
Keon Coleman, Bill's receiver, and he was going crazy last night.
But who starts him over Jamar Chase?
I had Travis Aetian on my bench.
And also, I had Xavier Worthy knocked out by Taylor Swift's fiancé.
Thank you very much, Travis Kelsey, for knocking Xavier Worthy out of the game on your own team.
Okay, okay, first of all, though, okay, you have DeAndre Swift.
in our league, starting at Flex tonight, why did you not play a receiver? It's a PPR
league. Well, here's why. I'm not a dummy, Patrick. I have a thought process. My thought
process, and it's played out halfway through, is that the Detroit Lions offensive coordinator,
Ben Johnson, is gone. And he's now in Chicago. And he uses the receiver, the running back
as a receiver. He runs the ball a lot. And I was right about, look at the lion's offense.
looked bad without Ben Johnson, right?
Let's not talk about Michael Parsons.
Oh, let's please talk about Michael Parsons.
Let's please talk about it.
Oh, dude, he looked so good.
His standing ovation when he came out in that green,
who baby, I was fired up.
I think he played 29 plays.
I think he had how many pressures, like six pressures,
the sack and a half and 29 plays.
Dude, he's so good.
But my thought process is Patrick, Ben,
Johnson makes D'Andre Swift a more valuable running back. That's what, that's, that's my thought
process. And I need 25 points from him tonight. You play him instead of Henderson. And then you
put one of your receivers in there. Well, I thought rookie Trevion Henderson. I'm hearing good
things out of trading camp. You worry about your team. By the way, I picked up Jayden's
on my team. My team is pretty damn good. I picked up Jaden Blue because of you in my other league,
just so you know. Do you guys remember, Ed, you weren't around last year. These guys last year,
they rode me and made fun of me.
I think I started the year like 0 and 3 or 0 and 4.
Oh, it was to talk of the league, Mr. Hosted Fantasy Football on ESPN.
Ask them who? Ask them, Ed.
You don't have a mic there.
Who won the league?
Who won the championship?
Boys, go ahead.
Who won?
I can't remember.
It was a very long time ago.
Okay, so you split the difference.
So get your licks in now.
The year before, you came in last.
So it's like you either boom or bust here.
Will K and 1.
Let me tell you something.
You can't me out early.
That's what you do.
I want you just to count me out.
I want you to.
By the way,
today, what's our audience look like right now?
No one wants to hear about your fantasy football team at a barbecue.
So we're doing it on a broadcast.
We have a pretty good.
People are staying.
People are staying right now.
They're listening.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
God bless you, Alicia.
We have sticking through a fantasy football league that you're not a part of.
No one wants to hear about your fantasy team.
We have no graphics or anything.
We can't show anything.
this is exciting i mean you're losing to uh you're losing to uh you're losing to john ashbrook so you know
fan of the fan of the least i'm not losing to holmes i don't want to lose to homes from ruthless
because he called nil nil and for i'll never going to forgive him that he kept and i think he
he did it to a senator that he was asking about regulations right who was the senator he was
asking about college football regulations he kept it was the power four commissioners that's who it was
he's sitting with the power four commissioners college football calling it nil
talk to me about nil nil is a score in soccer
nil is not name image and likeness
he must have heard it somewhere in them ran with it
i'm just telling you though i don't ever want to lose to you homes
smug is a ringer so good luck yeah his team's kind of uh he's like a professional
yeah he's got a lot of heavy he's got a lot of heavy trash chalk on the
text chain, by the way.
All right, but I didn't have a worst weekend in this lady.
I don't know her name, but everyone is calling her the Karen.
This is a Philadelphia Phillies fan.
Give me the details, guys, because it's not in Philly, right, where this went down?
Miami.
Marlins.
Where did this?
It's in Miami, a Philly fan.
In Miami, foul ball or home run?
Home run.
Home run.
Home run.
Harrison Bader.
Home run.
All right.
This ball.
ends up in the hands of a little kid.
Not going to deal with this, this Karen.
Roll the tape.
Bottoming Marsh with a homer of his own.
And Bacher flips a little slider that stays up in the middle of the plate.
What happened?
What's this?
So, no.
Apparently a little bit of a dispute about the ball.
The gentleman says, fine.
You take it.
Oh, my gosh.
A good.
And the, uh, the, uh,
The Mo Islands were kind enough to deliver a little consolation prize gift bag to the young fan.
Oh my gosh. Two of days, you asked who's in the wrong. I'm ready to break this down.
All right. Home run. It lands in the row in front of Karen, okay? But in that same row as this dad.
But he's probably 20 seats down, right? No one is sitting in those 20 seats. It's empty.
he comes running down
he grabs it
she's trying to lean over a little bit
but he's there first
and he grabs it he doesn't snatch it out of her hand
he doesn't take it
he just gets it first
and then he walks back
to his 20
she is she is snatching there
she feels like she's close
you can see it's at her fingertips
and he goes
he walks it back and gives it to his son
he's about the brown hands
12 13 years old
he gives it to his son
she's right on his tail, chases him, and she Karen's him,
she gets up in his face, yells at him.
And God bless his dad, he's quick.
He takes it out of his son's glove and hands it to her.
He doesn't argue, he's kind of like,
what the hell is this lady doing, and hands it to her.
She gets the ball.
Okay, you want your judgment?
100% in the wrong, Karen.
Yeah.
Not even a question.
You can go anywhere to grab a foul ball.
It wasn't in her hand.
who are you?
Like, why do you think it's yours?
The entitlement.
Have you been to a baseball game before?
Have you seen a baseball game before?
That is not how it works.
And to go over and grab the man physically
in front of, while he's holding his son,
are you nuts?
That is unbelievable.
I can't, it's crazy.
What do you think she is?
She's like, 50-something?
She's got gray hair.
Late 50s?
I think it's died, like, bleached.
Early 50s, yeah.
roll the tape again while you're talking tinfoil i turn the volume down two days i want to see
her hair i muted it okay i think i think people found she's a go ahead tinfoil oh we don't we're not
sure it's still a debate on that but the kicker here is that it was the boy's birthday
oh really a boy on his birthday yeah bad she's got a karen haircut too very much it's hipster
Yeah, I think she
She might be younger, you're right
I think she's gone
I think it's bleached silver
Yeah, bleached silver
I think she made it silver
Because the underneath is black
I know that because she's got the
Karen haircut
It's good on the Marlins
Right, that's who it was
Gave him a gift package
And then
And a bat
And then Harrison
Is that Bryce Harper giving him a bat?
No Harrison Bader
Who hit the home run
He met with him after
He gave him a bat
And then a CEO of a sportsman company gave them tickets to the World Series and a free RV, the kid in his family.
Whoa, an RV?
An RV.
They gave him an RV?
Yes.
He gave him tickets to the World Series and an RV from his company.
It's crazy.
God.
I don't want to take a baseball from me.
There's a problem here that I think could arise, if I may.
People are going to start to stage this stuff.
to get things.
You know what I'm saying?
But, man, that is a needle in a haystack opportunity.
You're going to stage this on the chance that something like this happened?
I'm not saying this is huge.
All right. Bad on you, Karen.
Real quickly, bad on Michigan.
I just want to say the one college football game I did watch was Saturday night when I got home.
OU, Michigan.
Didn't watch a lot of it.
OU is going to be a problem.
OU's good.
Not that Michigan is good, starting that freshman quarterback,
but John Mateer is good, the Oklahoma quarterback transfer from Washington State.
I'm nervous because my Longhorns didn't look all that awesome.
I mean, it's hard to say when you win 38 to 7 or whatever it is,
but didn't look all that awesome against San Jose State.
Florida State was on.
Florida State was on the ACC Network.
Hold on.
So I had to watch the Texas game.
We have to end the show.
They didn't look great.
I mean, they scored four touchdowns in the five minutes.
But outside of that, it was very, very choppy with Arch still.
Got a lot to do.
Thank you.
Play that out.
I don't want to hear about Florida State this season.
I didn't say anything about Florida State.
Sold last year.
Muted.
You sold on the whole sport.
That's going to do it for us today.
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