Will Cain Country - Meet Hasan Piker: The Radical Leftist Reshaping the Democratic Party (ft. Jack Posobiec & Sen. Rick Scott)

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

The Left has found their Joe Rogan, and he comes in the form of a multimillionaire champagne socialist twitch streamer named Hasan Piker. But is a 9/11 cheering, Hamas supporting, dog zapping hypebeast really the best way to push socialism into the mainstream? Will and The Crew are joined by the Sr. Editor At Human Events Jack Posobiec to examine the Left’s new darling and figure out to what extent he represents the future of the Democratic Party. Plus, Senator Rick Scott (R-FL) calls into the show to react to Piker calling for his assassination, and Will and The Crew take a closer look at Gen-Z’s habit of “shock humor.” Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@willcainnews⁠⁠⁠) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Communist Revolutionary, a hammer and sickle wielding streamer, who suggests that America deserved 9-11, is the new poster child, the new cheerleader for AOC, Bernie Sanders, and a candidate running for Senate in Michigan, the new best buddy of Democrats, Hassan Piker, with Jack Bosokin. It is Wilcane Country streaming live at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page. Here, as always, just hit follow at Spotify or on Apple. Hassan Piker, Twitch streamer, a new star having his moment of the left. Who is Hassan Piker? Well, many of you listening and watching because you live somewhat in the digital ecosystem,

probably know of Hassan Piker. I don't make the same assumptions of somebody watching Fox News. Yesterday, I had a group of high school students join me for a little tour, a little sit-in of the Will Cane show, all ranging in age from roughly 15 to 19. And to a man, they knew, probably because of their algorithm. Even though their political leanings probably were to the right, they knew of Hassan Piker. If you do not. Well, here is one of his greatest hits, wherein he says, America deserved 9-11. This is so insane. America deserved 9-11, dude.

I'm saying it. We're there to partner with them. America deserve 9-11. I'm saying it, bravely and loudly proclaims. The streamer, the streamer that is the new. new it boy of Democrats. Because as we speak, Abdul al-Said, who is running for senator from Michigan, is canvassing, hitting the trail, appearing on stages, side by side with Asan Piker, who, by the way, has an interesting choice in fashion. Piker dresses as a man of the people.

Piker dresses as a Soviet worker. You see Brooklyn hipster. You see 1980s box suit. I see a shout out to Mao. I see a shout out to Stalin. I see the true communist revolutionary. Piker wears like a hammer and sickle communist shirt often on his stream. He's pretty open about that he is there for it by any means necessary, that he is a bit of a revolutionary.

And I only have to show you a quick Google image search of Piker to see so that I think I'm on the right track. I mean, if you look at this picture of Piker, I'm not sure what that is that he's wearing there, but it's a very, it's a very Mow-feeling choice of fashion. Guy doesn't make it a secret. He doesn't, he doesn't shrink and say, oh, at hominem attack from the right. He's openly saying, hey, man, I want communism. I want radicalism. I want the end of America. Earlier this week on The Will Kane Show on Fox News Channel,

I did invite Congressman Chip Roy, who's running for Attorney General in the state of Texas, onto the program. And that seems to have hit Pikeser's radar. Again, he's budding up, running around with Al-Said and Rashida Taleb. Listen to Piker talking about Roy's appearance on the Will Cain show. Chip Roy went on Fox News and said, how about me? Yeah. Shocked.

I welcome his. his hatred, Chip Roy. Yeah, he said, he was on the Will Kane show, and they were like, oh, it says a lot that the Democrats are, like, leaning in the direction of influencers like Assad, and now you got a Muslim guy, Abdul al-Said, and, like, Islam is taking over the Democratic Party. He's going to be the first Muslim senator if he wins. I did not know that Piker is the nephew of Shank Weeger of the young Turks. I also did not know because I know my audience knows this is my thing and I don't want to disappoint my audience.

Piker is six foot four and pretty big and ripped. And by the way, gets a glowing profile. The reason that you know that he's pretty big and ripped is because there's a glowing profile in GQ. And I'm just wondering, because I think the parallel is pretty fair. Is GQ doing a glamor shot photo of spread and profile on Nick Fuentes? Or does that only go in one direction? Is it only one thing that is somehow mainstream that's welcomed into the conversation? This is welcomed on stage alongside AOC and Bernie Sanders.

It's made the emblem of modern-day Democrats. Well, joining us here today to discuss this is the senior editor at Human Events. He's also the author of Bulletproof The Truth about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump. It is our friend Jack Posobic to help us figure out exactly what's happening here. to Democrats because what's happening jack is hassan piker no he's absolutely happening and and look you know if i got to say anything about hasan i just got to say free kaya all right free kaya will are you familiar with the saga of kaya and why she needs to be freed no i don't know kaya or her imprisonment okay so kaya is is his son's dog and uh there's this this uh you know very growing body of evidence

that he keeps the dog, Kaya, right behind him on his Twitch streams. And she seems to, you know, get up or look like she's going to move out for something. And then it, you know, in these videos, it looks like he's pressing a button. And then Kaya kind of like jolts. And she goes back down. And there's a lot of people. There's a lot of people who think that Kaya, you know, Kaya and PETA has come out and talked about this that they think that that Kaya may have a shot collar on.

And so I just got to say free Kaya. We need answers. Oh, now you say this. Now you say this, I have seen these videos of Piker seeming to be pretty rough with Kaya, pretty rough with this dog. Now, I will say in a spirit of honesty to everyone listening, I'm not afraid of a shock collar. I employ the tool. And I don't employ the tool to keep my dog as a prop sitting next to me during a show. I have brought my dog in as a prop to sit next to me during a show.

but I have not shocked my dog to stay next to me during a show. But, Jack, I'm not above it. I'm not, I think it's a very good disciplinary tool. Are you going to, would you have a very unruly Doberman? You might use it for training. You might use it for unrulyness. You might use it for a variety of things. But to keep the dog just sitting behind, like, I just don't think that's appropriate use of it.

I think it's overboard. No, I think you've used your dog as a prop and you're enforcing its role play with with a shock collar. Man, but here's the deal. Kaya is probably the least of the worry for people that want to stand beside Hassan Piker. I'm just saying it's an indicator. It's an indicator. It's an indicator. So is this, Jack. Here is Piker dressing down cursing at a Vietnamese refugee in America. Because as Vietnamese refugee, we have endure suffering under the communist regime and we believe that uh okay you dude i mean seriously you old lady shut the fuck up you stupid idiotic old lady with your stupid in gamer headset who is you harder america or

hoche mince my old lady god damn dude you f this refugee okay Who has, who is F. G. Hsu Harder, America or Ho Chi Men, he asks. And the wild thing, Jack, I could do this all day. I've got clips. I could do this all day. I just don't know how Bernie Sanders goes, cool, book it. What stage?

What state? No, it's, I mean, you look at some of this stuff. And like, I've been to Vietnam. I actually was there, you know, while serving in the intel community. And you see the level of power. Even today, right? I was there, I guess, what, 2014? And even today, some of these areas, I mean, you're talking, I wouldn't even say third world conditions.

I would say fourth world conditions. And this is decades after the military, you know, the war, you know, war ended. So it's not like anybody's attacking them right now other than, you know, China for, you know, economically speaking. And the idea, the idea that you take someone who's come to this country and face all, you know, after facing so much hardship. And by the way, you know, and just degrade them like that. Obviously, that's ridiculous. You just, you don't treat people like that. You shouldn't treat people like that at all.

Even people I disagree with. I don't treat like that. Even, even dogs like Kaya, I wouldn't treat like that, right? You know, even animals, I wouldn't treat like that. So again, an indicator, I'm just saying, man. And, you know, at the same time, I think there's an interesting story there because Vietnamese American immigrants are actually, actually cause a huge problem for the left because, you know, all of leftism is based around this conspiracy theory that

systemic racism is what rules America. And yet here come the Vietnamese Americans who, you know, ever since the Vietnam Vietnam boat lift, you know, back what 40, 50 years ago, now suddenly, you see they've been extremely successful across the board, pretty much ever with California, Florida, wherever they show up in America. And why is this? Because they join the system. They work hard. They don't cause trouble. They're largely law abiding. They push their kids to go to school and to, you know, perform well on tests and they put a premium on studying and, you know, academic success. And wow, look at that. They have an economic boost from coming to the American system. So that creates a huge problem. If you're somebody on the far left who is preaching that

America is the great Satan, that America is this racist system, this terrible system that destroys everyone. Well, here's a group that, you know, didn't have anything. They're not part of the patriarchy. They're not part of the systemic white, you know, whatever ruling class that secretly runs this country according to their, you know, entire system. Because what do they say? They say the system is corrupt and therefore we have to overthrow it and institute something new. They never actually go and tell you what that something new is. They might dress up like Chairman Mao. And I know he's like going over to China where I've also spent time and other places and sort of like larked around as this revolutionary, but they never actually go and explain what the system is they want to change it

with but then again but then you can find these groups like these guys like the vietnamese and they say wait a minute uh this causes a problem so they have to do everything they can to just you know to just demean them smear them denigrate them and it's it's quite sad actually it's very sad let's take a quick break we continue this conversation with our buddy jack posovic here on will cane country when west jeff first took flight in 1996 the vibes were a bit different people thought denim on denim was peak fashion inline skates were everywhere and two out of three women rocked the rachel while those things stayed in the 90s, one thing that hasn't is that fuzzy feeling you get when WestJettings you on board. Here's to WestJetting since 96. Travel back in time with us and actually

travel with us at westjet.com slash 30 years. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with the senior editor at Human Events, Jack Posobic. That's really interesting that the successful immigrant group is the Achilles heel of the narrative of the revolutionary. You described you, well, the Vietnamese come in and fit into the system. I presume that includes in part some assimilation into the predominant culture. And they seem to speak for the ones that cannot or will not fit into the system, whether or not that is the Somalis in Minnesota or the Muslim that wants to change the entire system. But the Vietnamese represents the counter argument and therefore needs to be shouted down. You know, Roy, when he was on with me, talked about this could be this man in Michigan.

Al-Sahed, the first Muslim senator in America. Now, of course, they saw that observation as racism. In fact, here is Piker continuing to talk about that appearance of Roy on my program, and I guess what he's describing as Islamophobia. Insha Allah, Chip Roy is going to get extra scared. He was on Fox News. He was talking smack saying he's going to be the first month. Muslim Senator. I bet he wouldn't say it to my face. That's true. That's true. That's going to be my

favorite part of like say it to my face. Go ahead. See what happens. Yeah, I bet you won't. I'll say it says you wouldn't say it to my face. Rashida Talib, by the way, sitting there also in the audience of Hassan Piker. The deeper question is not one of some form of bigotry, but rather, can you follow the same path as the Vietnamese, as you point out? Or is it your goal to overturn the entire project to do something other as you described in america it's so obvious isn't it that you have groups like this like the vietnamese that are able to come in and you're right they assimilate they they come in actually uh not to get too personal but i find my extra neighbors have to have to vietnamese immigrants and they're great they're they keep to themselves

they have their kids our kids play together it's there's no problem whatsoever and uh it's mr voo and Mrs. Boo, and we hang out, and it is what it is. It's no issue. And yeah, there's, you know, the food might be a little different or, you know, there's different obvious, you know, cultural backgrounds there. But, you know, obviously, as long as we can all get along and as long as we're all following the rules, we're totally fine. Now, you compare that, though, to some of these areas like Dearborn, Michigan, where they come in and they say all of a sudden, you know, we've got to change the entire city. We've got to put up signs that say, you know, like little Palestine in some places that are that we now see. They put up these massive calls to prayer for the whole city.

They're changing the logos of the police force over and over and over. And so suddenly you realize there's a huge difference between immigrants that can come to this country from their culture and say, you know what? We can bring the aspects of our culture, right, which which are compatible, that are compatible with America that are different to be sure, but can fit in without. causing problems as opposed to others who want to impose their will, impose their cultural, this type of idea of not cultural assimilation, but actual cultural imposition on the country. And in many cases, like we see with just not far away in Minneapolis, you see massive amounts of scams, massive amounts of government fraud that are conducted again and again. So do you want to come into the country and get with the program and work with the system?

or do you want to come in and scam off the system? And then you get guys like agitators like Hassan Piker who come in and say, or by the way, Dora Mandami, right? The new mayor of New York City who clearly is using these same types of politics and these same types of policies of tear everything down and overthrow the system because white people, which he had, you know, unfortunately had to admit to my face in the Oval Office when I pushed him on this, that he did actually say that we're going to have. the white neighborhoods more. He just kind of quibbled about why he said it, but he admitted that he

said it. And so it's very clear. That's a tear it down mentality. And he's talking about it now, Mom Donnie. He's talking about the wealth accumulated by white people versus others, and therefore they need to be treated differently and disproportionately. I want to broaden the conversation, though, because I want to brought it now outside of Hassan Piker to Democrats at large first. Okay, so when a guy like Al-Said, who is challenged on why he is doing this, because they're being confronted with the statements of Piker. He's playing this rhetorical trick game, and he's saying, hey, I thought you guys weren't into cancel culture. So check out this. This is from El-Said.

Abdul, are there any views that Hassan holds that you disavow while you're with him? I'm not here to disavow people's views. I'm here to have a conversation about how to get money out of politics, put money back in pockets, and pass Medicare for all. That's the conversation that folks are here to listen to. This whole gotcha game, platform policing, cancel culture. I thought we were over it. platform policing cancel culture um that's a joke okay it's not just appearing on somebody's program and answering questions it's standing there with him on a stage it's standing there with him as your

partner and that does require some some analysis of what what what do you co-sign with here but here's the interesting thing jay it's not just this guy right it's aOC it's bernie sanders it's oh romamondani and when i look at this poll there was a poll out i think it was published by the The Daily Wire that said, I think it was 70% of Democrats see Democrat socialism as the brand of the party. And the favorability of that type of leftism, opinions on socialism for Democrats, this is according to Gallup, has definitely gone up. I mean, we can see it over the last 15 years. It looks like it was around 50% in 2010 to above 60% in 2025. So the answer seems to be, Jack, that a guy like Piker, to some extent, is actually becoming the brand of the left.

Like, who is the moderate Democrat? No, I mean, it's so funny because my brother and I were having a conversation yesterday. Our grandfather, who's now passed on, he was a Democrat, but he was like, you know, a Kennedy Democrat, right? He would never, ever consider himself a socialist. And he was personally very conservative in his outlook, conservative, how he'd lived his life. And I think that was just sort of a transition period for the Democrats where you don't see those guys anymore, those blue dog Democrats or pro-life Democrats like we used to have in Pennsylvania. We had a pro-life governor who was the governor Casey of Pennsylvania who sued Planned

Parenthood and took it all the way to the Supreme Court. That was a Democrat. Where are those Democrats today? They're gone. They've gone the way of the dinosaur and the dodo. They are completely out of the picture. So what do you see now? You do see this. socialists come in. And it's not about cancel culture or deep platform. Stand who you want to stand with, by the way. But if you're going to stand with who you stand with, tell me the truth. What do you agree with their platform? And what is your actual platform and what are your actual beliefs? Because I'm telling you, when I pushed Mondami on this, you could see, you could see the mask fall away. And suddenly, no, it is the politics of tear it down. And I'm going to take from you

because I resent you as an ethnic group and as a cultural group and all of these things. That's I want to do. That's my actual beliefs. This isn't about equity. It's not about justice. It's about resentment. It's about anger. It's about jealousy and envy and turning that into a form of politics. And that's what's really all about. And all of the that's why when, you know, we sit there and play these a while, you know, you say you want black class matter, but you never talk about, you know, this violence and inner city violence. Because that's not what it's about. It's not actually about what they say. That's all, you know, this little ephemeral window dressing, What they actually stand for is this type of resentment.

And that's why it matters when you stand with people like this because you do agree. You completely agree. So just tell us the truth. Just tell us the truth. That's exactly right. And that is it distilled down to its base. It is resentment as a vehicle. That resentment used to in the early 20th century take the form of class resentment,

but it is now manifested into identity resentment, identity primarily through race, but it can be mechanized through any form. Gender identity. He's a gender a lot. Yep. Gender, sexuality. Tribalism, ethnic divides, and resentment as a mechanism ultimately to tear it down. That is the tie that now binds the Democrat Party.

And the answer, I think, is singular. Federman seems to be the only one that would fit some old school definition of a moderate Democrat. That doesn't mean that he's moderate on every issue. It just means he stands alone. But he says certain things, but he doesn't, he still votes for most of the extreme stuff, though. Yeah, that would be my push. We're back in Pennsylvania again, right? With Vetterman, right?

But it's, it's, man, he says so much stuff that sounds good, right? And he understands, you know, that Pennsylvania, again, is this, it's like the swingiest of the swing states. And he's sitting there as a Democrat, but representing a state that Donald Trump wants. So, of course, he knows below. politically speaking, that he can't be super far to one side. But his votes, man, I just wish his votes match the rhetoric. That would be what I would be my response to that. I wish the votes match the rhetoric.

And a guy like Gavin Newsom, like, do we believe that Gavin Newsom truly? Is he a true believer on something? Say what you will. I don't know. I'm just now. Jack, you may have a longer history of knowing of him, but I'm just now really getting to understand Piker. I don't know if he's a cynical player for extra views on the stream or if he's a true believer.

There are certainly amongst them true believers in this revolutionary idea of tear it down. I don't think that Gavin Newsom is a true believer, but I do think he's an elitist who will use socialism and see it as an advantage to his acquisition of power. I mean, I've been around some guys like this. I was around the former governor of New York, Elliot Spitzer, for a long time. I don't think the thing that really drove him was this destruction of America in a socialist image, but it was just the perfect vehicle to elevate his own power. That's a little more how I see Gavin Newsom. You know, when you mentioned Gavin Newsom, gosh, the first image that pops into my mind is Patrick Bateman.

And from the American Psycho, which is the joke that even Gavin Newsom has admitted, you know, that everybody, you know, sort of memes him as. And if anyone's seen that movie, there's a scene where Patrick Bateman, who we all know he's a serial killer, but he's sitting out there at this palatial restaurant, one of the most elite, I don't think it's Dorsia, but it's one of these like elite restaurants that he's always going to throughout the film. And he's talking about, oh, we need to end apartheid in South Africa and we need to feed the hungry, and we need to end the nuclear arms race and we need to do more for feminism, et cetera, et cetera. And then, you know, and then the very next scene, it cuts from him sitting around the table having that discussion to, you know, and he's committing like unspeakable acts of violence and, you know, as a serial killer.

And I think what Brett Easton Ellis was doing was he was writing a cut up of it, a literal cut up in the sense, of that type of person who's going to walk around with this nice, flowery language. But we all know that that's not what's really going on underneath. that what's really going on underneath is a cynical drive and urge ambition power greed that's what it's really all about and these are just sort of you know nice things that they say to get ahead and act like they're not really doing that you see that with like Leonardo decaprio who'll walk out and say something about climate and then boom he's like jetting off to his private island on a private jet with some 26 year old you know the new 26 year old of the week or they don't care about this stuff right They just do that so the left leaves them alone so they can go live their lives the way they want.

I'm sorry, Jack. That's too old for Leo. Oh, 26 is too old. I forgot where the bar was. Maybe it was 25. Oh, maybe 26 is the ceiling. Yeah, it is for sure. Right, right.

Leo is a huge violator of the rule. The rule is half plus seven. Everybody knows the rule. It's spanned culture. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's half plus seven.

That's the old rule. I haven't heard someone cite the old rule in a long time, but that used to be law. That used to be law. I say Trump should. It literally spans cultures, Jack. It spans culture in time. Like, you can go back in most cultures and they kind of like raise their eyebrows if you broke that. It may not have been formalized, but everybody felt it.

It felt. You know, I'm 51. That puts my, and Leo's the same age as me, I think. That puts me at, um, was it, I'm 32, roughly. 32. I can, I could go. but Leo is Has Leo ever dated somebody in their 30s?

I don't think he ever has. Maybe accidentally. That's what I think. I think with the Democratic Party, it's split right now with age. Because you have guys like Asan Piker for the young people, and you have guys like Gavin Newsom for the older people. So it split the party into two more than ever. I mean, but even Bernie, the younger people don't really know Bernie.

Bernie burned out, no pun intended, you know, a few years ago. Yeah, I don't hear anyone that I know in the Democratic Party, and I'm around Democrats constantly, that talk about Bernie Sanders anymore. So I think it's just this split. They like AOC, though, right, Dan? They like AOC. Yeah, for a couple reasons. But, yeah, I mean, they do like her as a... But, yeah, I think they see people like her as the future.

And Asan just speaks to the young people who are already kind of liberal. Anyway, so I don't know. It would be interesting. Yeah, I think that's right. And I think Pelosi is sort of like, she's trying to hold it all together. And that's that's she's going back to California. And she's going to try to hold it back together. There's no Obama.

You know, like you know. Yeah. Yeah, Obama. He's kind of out there. And he's sort of, he's got this like neotechral, you know, is like the technocrat version of the party that's still kind of floating around out there. And then Hillary, who definitely wants to run again, by the way, is is sort of out there as well.

But yeah, those are all seen as sort of like the, the yesterday's. news of the party. I really think so. Let's take a quick break. We continue this conversation with our buddy, Jack Posobic here on Will Kane Country. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with senior editor at human events. Jack Posobic. They are yesterday. They are old. This is the new Democrat. This is something I'm going to lean on you, Jack, and your expertise. In fact, I'm surrounded all three of you. I'm the lone Protestant amongst us. I'm going to need your expertise on Catholicism and what is happening right now. And I think there's two different angles that I'm curious about. One is Pope Leo, who seems to be, reports are taking a, taking a side,

taking a stand a little bit against where America is, not a little bit, but against where America is, certainly in the war with Iran. He's also said some stuff on immigration policy. And then there's this story. And Patrick, you were sending me stuff this morning and I was doing my best to keep up with it because it's a report that various Catholic, what was this, what was the, the, the, the, title, the nuncio, to the Pentagon or to the... Yeah, I get lost in the titles.

I'm going to be honest. And he was brought into the Pentagon. We love titles in the Catholic Church. We absolutely do. Yeah, the ambassador. The titles in hierarchy are everything. And harangued. And harangued by who? We don't know. At first it was like, is it Elbridge

Colby? Now I've seen some reports, no, it definitely was not Elbridge Colby, but he was harangued about the Catholic Church and their position when it comes to America and this war. So, and there are now others saying, no way, this is all fake news. So, but there is something going on, at least at the height of, of Pope Leo. Yeah. So, I mean, I have no idea, and I've asked around as well, you know, in the Pentagon and I know

Bridge and who actually is Catholic, by the way. And it just, it just doesn't strike me as something that he would do because he's a little bit more careful than that. And, you know, I got a lot. lot of pushback from people I know in the Pentagon about this. They were like, this is not, you know, it's way out of, out of proportion from what happened. I said, okay. And I guess I'll put it like this. The popes are not pro war. Popes have never been this like, you know, you know, in the modern era, this like pro war thing. John Paul II came out and spoke vociferously against

the Iraq war at the time. He was totally, he was still around because he passed in 2005, so 2003. It's kind of like the one of the last big things, issues that he stood on. Everybody knows that John Paul II was huge fighter against communism, against obviously in his homeland of Poland and then the Soviet Union, the Iron Curtain. That was a huge, huge push for him. He really worked to destroy the Iron Curtain. But he was also, you know, in general, anti-war. And that's something that, you know, I think really spans papacies.

And so I guess to me or to my mind, I don't really look at it as out of step for the papacy because it's just sort of a normal trend that we would see. I don't necessarily see it as anything different. And to your point, though, what I would take a lot more umbrage to is all this stuff, this game that seems to be being played where, you know, and I've said it under Pope Francis as well, this game that's being played about them not seeing a distinction between illegal and legal immigration that's been going on.

We were just talking about Vietnamese immigrants. By the way, a lot of Southern Vietnam is Catholic because of, it was a French colony, so you see a lot of Catholic churches down there. And at the same time, though, they're playing this game that, like, oh, anyone who comes into the country just needs to be taken care of or anyone who comes into Europe needs to be taken care of without losing or while losing sight of the moral problem, the moral sin of illegally breaking into a country. I think that's a huge issue.

And I get that there are, you know, this, this. these other interests, right, to, you know, to saying, hey, they fill up the pews, they fill up the parishes, you know, we want that. Well, guess what? We just had this past Easter, all these reports coming out, Washington Post, New York Times and others saying that Gen Z are converting to Catholic at higher rates than anyone has seen in years. And it's like, guys, this is the way to move forward as a church. You use this Gen Z, whether it's a fad, whether it's a trend, you know, you lock in on that

and see what it is about the Catholic Church that's attracting them. Focus on that and focus on the church. And, you know, politics or politics, war is going to be its thing. But stay out of the politics in general. Just stay out of the politics in general. It's usually better. You know, the word that you used that caught my attention when you talked about the papacy's position on war,

which is, as you said, it's unsurprising. As you said, modern day. And I was thinking about this this morning. And I think it ties together the conversation we're having about the modern state of Democrats as well. Because, of course, the public narrative is that Republicans have gone off the rails and they've become more extreme. And in order to try to sort of prove that case, in this story, for example, about the Catholic Church, one of the ones I read this morning, they referenced a lot about the use of the language from guys like Hegzeth and others

to infuse it into some of the rhetoric around the war, like, Well, I guess even the downed pilot in Iran, whose first message was God is good. You know, Hegzeth asking for God's protection, invoking God's protection when we have lost so few guys in our war with Iran, even dating back to Venezuela. But that is not. I mean, even if that's true, and even if you don't like it, one thing you would have to say is that's not some new extremism. I mean, every nation and every religion through the course of human history has asked God for their purpose. for his protection when they go to war. And war is somewhat of an unfortunate inevitability of the human condition.

And I was thinking about this, and I was thinking about our position on immigration, and none of it is radical compared to American history. Like if you took, I don't know, I don't want to like just lean on Thomas Jefferson or George Washington. So if you took random president, you know, Grover Cleveland from the late 1800s and plugged him into today in the positions that he held, and whatever you would like to describe as moderate, he would be seen as radical. That's who he would be seen as. His position on everything that we take for granted.

And now you look at Democrats and they're the ones leaning into their most radical. These guys today, you could argue, are as radical and as far left as anything since what? The early 20th century, the early 20th century when there was open and avowed socialism and communism debates. And my point is, like, these conversations, about religion and war and immigration, these are actually the moderate positions through the course of history. Well, I couldn't agree more. And it's sort of an interesting situation because we have more military power than ever with

the atomic age starting in, you know, 1945 with the dropping the bombs on Hiroshima Nagasaki. And it's almost like in a way that, you know, we become so powerful, technologically powerful that we could destroy entire cities and now, you know, even worse with the more powerful weapons that we have to bring to bring to bear, that it's almost sort of pacified us in a weird way because that idea of mutually short destruction under the sea, the Cold War, you know, made it so everybody had to be like really careful that we don't break into a worldwide catastrophe, which could lead to, I mean, what is it, like 42 minutes and the entire, you know, population of the planet is in flames in a nuclear war.

that's why nukes are so, are so dangerous. And that's why, clearly why the president has put such a, you know, he puts such a premium on being careful about who gets nukes. And I totally understand where he's coming from in terms of that because of the amount of power of these weapons. And that just needs to be said. It seems to need to be said over and over. But you're right.

When you go back to the past, I was actually thinking of the Crusades when I said that, actually, that, you know, it was, I remember that the crusades were launched by. I Pope Urban the second. And, you know, that was clearly a call to arms of saying, hey, the caliphate has taken over the holy land. We got to do something about this. Let's let's go. Let's go to arms.

And then that led to, you know, obviously hundreds of years of warfare, again, in the name of Christ. And so these are different things, obviously. But I think you do have to put it in different context. I think you do in a sense, because. they're operating within different frameworks. It's not the Middle Ages anymore. And what we should try to do and hope that my hope would be for whoever the Pope is, whatever the papacy is, that we don't change the morality and the unerring and unchanging

principles that were given to us by Christ when he was here through the Holy Gospels, that we don't change that. And that is what always stays the same and true for all time. Yeah. Look, if radical is defined by a deviation from the norm, the last 50 to 60 years of secularization is one of the most radical things ever happened. It's ever happened. It's hard to overstate how secularized everything has become over the past half a century. That is truly radical.

All right. Jack Posobic is the editor of human events. Check out his book as well, Bulletproof the truth about the assassination attempts on Donald Trump. We always appreciate having Jack on the show. Good to see you, Jack. Thank you, man. God bless, guys. All right, take care.

By the way, back to Asan Piker for just a moment. This is sort of making the rounds as well. So Piker, I don't remember when this was said, but it's just, I'd say, I don't know, within the last year or two, said this about a sitting senator. If you cared about Medicare fraud or Medicaid fraud, you would kill Rick Scott, okay? You would kill Senator Rick Scott. joining us on the phone now is the senator from florida rick scott senator good to have you well it's nice to be with you but it doesn't stop democrats from wanting to campaign with this guy or go to cuba with him or be seen with him and here's a guy that he's calling for a u.s.

senator to be killed and democrats think he's the greatest thing since i spread they want to campaign with him go on vacation with him i mean this is the craziest thing here's a guy he said America deserve 9-11. He calls Islamic terrorists brave. He stands with the Cuban regime, the Iranian regime. So, I mean, this is a guy. I mean, I don't want to be around him. I imagine.

I would imagine you don't want to be around him. Do you know when that happened? That had to have hit your security radar, right? That had to have been something that your staff heard about and you had to consider. Oh, yeah. But absolutely. No, I mean, as a result, I mean, I have to have. have to have security all the time.

I can't go anywhere. I mean, and how can a Democrat want to be around somebody that wants to kill anybody else, but alone a U.S. or somebody, and they actually know. Like, Waltham's running for the Senate in Michigan, his campaign with him, El-S. Aide, and he, you know, he wants to be in the Senate, and then, but he wants me killed. So, and then they bragged the fact that they never, you know, that these Democrats bragged intentionally that they never called out Hamas. They never called out Hamas. So it was okay for Hamas to go destroy the lives of 1,200 Jews in Israel on October 7th.

And he says, yeah, that's okay. And the biggest, these are anti-Sinic, how anybody that believes in Judeo-Christian values could ever vote for, Democrat. I don't get. Well, and you said that broadly, a Democrat, and your point I don't think is misplaced. I had this conversation just a moment ago with Jack Posobic. Like, what is a moderate Democrat? Because there's all too many who are willing to embrace a guy like Hassan Piker. I don't, there's none.

I mean, they, you know, they, they're, they want to destroy this country. I mean, Democrats, they don't care about you get their job. They don't care about your kids getting a great education. No, on education, they care about the teachers, and you're not about your child, and they clearly don't care about public safety, right? When they're supporting Hamas and supporting Iran and supporting the Cuba regime and defund ICE and defund Border Patrol. I mean, it's like these are the most radical people I've ever been around. I mean, my parents were Democrats. My dad was a teamster.

He would never, you know, never vote for a Democrat today. I mean, he was one of three thousand people that all four combat jumps with the ASEC and airborne. He fought for freedom. And these guys are going out there campaigning against the United States' involvement in Iran, against what they were trying to do to give the people of Cuba, their opportunity to live free. I mean, this is insane. And refusing, in Al-Said's case, who's running for Senator in Michigan, refusing to talk about the death of the Aitoa. That phone call has been leaked where he's like, I have too many people in my district, potential voters, who would not like this news about the death of the Itola. Yeah, so if you're, like, you're not representing the United States.

I mean, who are you, who are these people think they're representing? And you hate Jews? I mean, he's probably, he has probably Jews in his district, too, so he hates them. Right. And he's, and they want to go campaign with people. that say a U.S. Senator should be murdered. That's where the Democrat Party is today. They are insane.

Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Cain Country. What would you say to them if I had Hassan Piker, or better yet, if I had El-Said call in right now? I had Chip Roy, Congressman on my show the other day, and he talked about the growth of Islam across the country, that this guy, El-Sahid could become, I think he's polling in the 30s, could become the first Muslim senator. And then later Roy goes on to talk about the red-green alliance, the socialism and Muslim growth across America, and their ultimate goals on what that means for what they want to happen with America. But a guy like Piker and Al-Said hear that, and they hear bigotry. They hear whatever Islamophobia. What would you say to someone that hears that in the criticism?

Well, first off, first off, socialism, the only way socialism is allowed is they destroy everybody that doesn't believe in it. They put them in prison, they kill them. That's the only way that happens. So look at Iran right now. Okay. These radical Islamics in Iran, I mean, the only way they say in power is kill their own people. They kill like, what, 30,000 people just in January because they're a protest. So, so, like, I believe in allowing people, you know, to have whatever religion they want, and they, well, to have, you know, to be out there and wanting to destroy people's lives based on your religion. That's not, I don't know of a religion that believes in killing everybody else. So, and if it does, I mean, that scares a hell out of hell out of me. But also, we're free to worship.

We're also free to judge others on the values of what it is you worship and what you hope to accomplish through the worship, right? So if there is a guy who believes a certain set of rules and worships in that way, but we have the right to ask questions about that when you're asking for power over America. Well, and you also don't get to harm other people. In our country, you have your rights, but you don't have a right to harm other people. calling for somebody's murder, okay, is harming somebody. You know, not calling out Hamas for destroying 1,200 Jewish lives, right, is wrong. Supporting the Cuban regime, which has suppressed the people in Cuba over 60 years. Are the Ayatollah who's killed an unbelievable number of Americans, let alone the number of Iranians?

I mean, not to call these people out and say, We deserve 9-11, all right? And Islamic terrorists are brave? Why? They're brave because they kill Americans, and they kill Jews? This is disgusting. It's disgusting. And I think everybody ought to be disgusted with Democrats right now,

because they do not represent this. They don't represent what you and I grew up in. I grew up in a country that I don't care what party you were. You believed in this country. You believe that you want a good economy, good education. You want people to be safe, not that you want people to die. Senator, we often hear that the rhetoric someone might proclaim publicly isn't necessarily the nature of the relationship behind the scenes. So in the course of our conversation here today, you've talked about the state of Democrats, broadly, writ large.

Is there no one in the Senate that you can work with? Like, is there a moderate in the Senate? Somebody we could describe as a moderate Democrat? Well, with your go, I'm the chairman of the aging. committee. I work with Senator Gillibrand on all the aging issues, trying to bring, you know, generic drugs manufacturing back to the United States, things like that. I work with Elizabeth Warren on trying to hold the Federal Reserve accountable, right? So sure, there are issues that we work with them on. But if you look at, not one Democrat, not one Democrat in the Senate

has called out Hiker for one enemy murdered, not one. Not one. Not one in the House. And And then they go campaign with them. So I don't know what moderate means, but I would expect, like, if a Republican, you know, called for, you know, one of our colleagues' death, I would say something publicly that's wrong. Because it is wrong. Right. I mean, we can disagree. We can disagree, right?

But you don't, you don't plan to kill somebody over your disagreement. Right. I'm trying to figure out if I had Elizabeth Warren on and I put her to it, you know, it's one thing to go out proactively and do it, right? If some right-wing podcaster said, if you want to solve the banking problem, then you should kill Elizabeth Warren. And if somebody had said that, it's one thing for you to go out proactively, it's another thing to answer a question put to you directly. I wonder what Elizabeth Warren would say if I put it to her directly. What do you think about what Hassan Piker said about Senator Rick Scott?

I would hope that she would say it was wrong. But like any, it's like I am very vocal that anti-Semitism is not right. I did part of your job if you're elected. You represent people and you represent everybody, even though they didn't vote for you. right um so you know i've had four statewide races there's i didn't get all the votes right so i still represent these people and i don't want somebody to

oppress somebody i want somebody to say they're i want them dead or i want somebody to say they don't want them to have opportunity none of those things you want you want you want something good for everybody yeah yeah well senator rick scott we you phoned in here to talk about this was we appreciate that um and uh Yeah, thanks for highlighting also what he said about you. It's something everybody should know about. In addition to all the other crazy things that has been said by Asan Piker. And the story really is less about Piker and more about the Democrats that stand next to Piker.

That's right. And they should be next to him and they should call him out for what he's doing. All right. Senator Rick Scott of Florida. Thanks so much for joining us here today on Will Kane Country. All right. See well. Bye-bye.

There he goes. I think it's not. It's not a moral distinction, but it is maybe an act of political calculation what I said there. Do you guys understand what I said? Like, well, this is what they're doing. Okay. If you're a Democrat, you have a choice. Did you hear what Piker said about this, that, this, that?

And I think this is just one of them. Here what he said about Rick Scott? Here what he said about 9-11? Okay, now I'm a Democrat. And I am, I don't know, name a random Democrat from somewhere. James Taylorico. To proactively go out and go, that's nonsense. That's awful, right?

That Democrat has to make a calculation. Oh, what happens to my base? What happens to the Democrats that like Asa Sond Piker? What do I do? Versus you somehow put yourself in a situation where you're forced to be answered to that question. I think you should do it in both. I think you should definitely do it in both. But you're not going to get a lot of people that proactively go out there and choose to distance.

You're just not going to get it. Right now we're talking about those that choose. to gravitate. If you get clout, you're sticking. Then there's the middle ground. Then there's the middle ground of, you know, what if you are asked directly? What if you haven't chosen to stand next to Saun Piker? But you also haven't chose to distance.

What are you in that middle ground? And you're put to it, right? So I don't know. I don't know when the next time I have a Democrat on the show is. Right. But I put him to it. They're going to try the cancel culture line. They're going to try the platform line.

that's not going to work on me. There's a lot of throwaways, though, like, oh, well, he was just trolling or he was just saying that or doesn't really mean anything, and I don't think he stands by that. That's a throwaway thing. How would you respond to that? Well, real quick, there are some things that he said in the past

where he was more of just a general creator, like a content creator. And I feel like some of those things, like maybe like the 9-11 comment, are kind of like throwaway kind of joke-like. things that he would say. I think that's one where he was probably saying it more in jest. Well, I don't. I don't accept that.

Asterisk. I don't. I mean... Oh, it's so horrid, but... I do think... Well, I do think, okay, he's younger. I do think younger people... Like, there's this style of humor.

I actually don't even think it's humor. I don't know what it is. where it is say something grotesque. It's not sarcasm. It's something else. It's like shock value, but it's uncreative shock value? Yes. It's very soon.

Okay. But it's not creative, right? Okay, shock value's been around for a long time. Bill Maugh famously got canceled for calling the 9-11 guys brave, right? But when he did that, he was actually, it was layered. I'm not excusing Marr. I'm saying that joke,

it was a joke, right, had layers to it. Like, he was pointing out. It's really the same joke that Shane Gillis has made. Have you guys seen the Shane Gillis bit about the dudes that get out there in flip-flops

and a broken AK? He's like, those dudes, those dudes are brave. Gillis kind of made that same joke. You know, what is it? 20 years later. But it has layers to it. The zoomer thing is just to say the shocking thing that has no layer and it really isn't funny,

but everybody does this laugh like it is funny because you said something that we all know you're not supposed to say. And I don't forgive that, A, because it's not funny. Like, first of all, it's not funny. So you say it's a throwaway thing designed for shock value or sensationalism, but most of the time that has to have a layer of something else to it. I've seen kids do this, you know, and it's just not funny. That's the main thing. It comes off as real cheap attention seeking in some way.

And so I don't forgive it because in your head, everyone in your head, at least we used to, have this sort of internal editor. And that editor is doing a lot of work, right? And that work is like, is this going to be funny? How is this going to land? Is this worth it? Is this witty? is this smart, all these different things. Is this subversive but in a way that we can all laugh?

All these things, right? Our brains are doing that every time we have a thought or say something out loud. And it's a little bit like the young kids thing is do away with the editor. Do away with all that and blurt out whatever pops in. And I don't forgive that. That's not a good development. You know what I mean? That's not a good sign of progress.

So I don't give him a pass. for leaning in even if that's the thing, Patrick. Even if it's not, oh, you didn't actually mean it, it's throwaway. Why don't give a pass to that throwaway? I think it's also a reaction, how people act now and how kids talk this way. It's a reaction because for so long we were told you can't say so many things. So I now think they're kind of going the opposite way and saying things, just reaction. Yeah, but okay, hold on.

Before I go back to Patrick, the master at this would be Chappelle. Chappelle says things. Everybody goes, ooh, are you allowed to say that? But he has taken you along a ride that has a lot of insight and humor and wisdom in it. By the time he gets to the thing of the, you're not supposed to say, you're like, man, actually, yeah. Right. And the Zoomer thing is cut out all the interesting parts and get straight to the thing, right? And somehow that's insightful or witty or smart.

And it's not. I'm not saying it's enjoyable. I'm just saying that like I kind of understand. where they're coming from to not have that filter because, like, you know, millennials got crapped on as a generation and we've gone through a lot of dark stuff. And I think Zoomers...

Oh, boy. No, no, no. I think it's legitimate. Hold on. Let's take a time for a moment. The victim generation. Yeah. Are you the biggest victim generation in history?

Millennials and your, your freaking Prozac and tampons on everything in the world. Like, at some point, Sack up, millennials. No one wants to hear about your trauma. I don't understand. I mean, like, we sit here and we take it. I mean, and that's just what I think Zoomers don't do is we sit here, we take it,

we get crapped on all the time. Said, thank you, sir, we may have another. And we just keep going. And Zoomers are like, yeah, F it. I mean, like, the system's broken. There's no point. And we might as well just like, you know. We've been through a lot as millennials.

We really have. We really have. Crashes, you know. 9-11. Yeah. The event of the internet. Getting bullied online. You didn't sit there and take it.

You didn't just sit there and take it. Okay, don't you dare paint yourself as some kind of stoic. You guys belly ached and complained every step of the way. We did. We sought out a therapist and got some medicine. Yeah, we're just all on Lexapro and Xanax. So we just don't say anything. not me personally but some people

over here over here acting like you're some kind of like Zerathstrian you know you got stoicism mastered and you just took it I'm basically Marcus Aurelius I mean that's who you guys are yeah basically those guys

we are complainers I hate a lot of people in our generation they just complain about everything and so oh it's childhood and generational trauma we have to break the generational trauma because it's happened for so many years in our fans. No, shut up. Deal with it yourself.

I mean, you guys know I like generational talk in the same way I like height talk and other category-based talk. But I do think it's a little bit nonsense. I mean, we've had this on our morning call. Like, is this generational thing real? I mean, like, are there people that go through life with the same worldview over a 15 to 20-year period and then therefore they're one? and there is some stuff. There's certainly cultural touchpoints like music and movies and things like that. And there is a viral mindset among a cohort of people that experience things at the same time.

So yeah, there's some to it. But I think it's messy. So if you're listening and you're a millennial, don't be personally offended. Maybe you're not like Patrick. We're soft compared to like the silent generation. J.D. Vance, Vice President, said yesterday, don't black pill. He said, don't become a cynic. Don't become Hassan Pike.

her. Stay inspired. Stay motivated. That was, that was, J.D. Vance is a millennial, right? He's wrong. He's wrong. Black pill right now. Just give up, given. There's no point. You are, are you black, are you, are you fully blackpilled, Patrick? I, uh, it's like a, it's like a, I know, I kind of jump over the line every day. It's like, it's like red. Sometimes I'm, you know, I, I, I think I'm very bipolar or something. Like sometimes I'm like, it's over. So the country's gone. And the next day I'm like, no, there's hope.

So black pilling. So black pilling is giving in to misanthropy, right? To become a misanthrope. And a cynical, a cynical quitter. A little bit of a nihilist, yes. And it's exhausting being a nihilist. And. Cowards, Donnie.

Lying from the Big LaValouse. How great was it the other day? I was doing a freaking interview on Fox News with a top gun pilot about the rescue of the downed pilot, Dude 44 in Iran. And the interview became a competition of who could say the most big Lobowski lines. It was incredible, this guy. And I mean, he went toe to toe to. He didn't know he had stepped into the arena. Like, this is my jam, baby.

I can do Lobowski lines with anyone. And he was there, though, toe to toe. he jumped me on this aggression will not stand. He dropped that in there. And I'm not even sure I buy it 100% yet. He said that the pilot's call sign was Dude 44 was a Lobowski reference. Which I get it. If his name was the dude or El Dutorino, I would have gotten it.

But why is Dude 44 a reference to the Big Lobowski? I'm not quite sure 100%. Yeah. Yeah, I don't either. So, but I mean, I'm, I'm. fine with it if it means we're going to start quoting big Lobowski lines in the middle of a very serious interview that's that's that's that's that's that's great television in my in my book um but yeah nihilism it must be exhausting that's another call out to the big lobowski um i think i think that

that black pilling and becoming a misanthrope will be real unfortunate circumstance for everybody i think that would be do you pass that down and then you just make these comments and then you Then you just make these comments like, like, we deserve 9-11, you just get into shock value, and you just walk through the world alone offending everybody. In essence, an entire generation of Ricks. That's what you become. You know my analysis. Every dude is one of three guys.

An A-hole, a douchebag, or a Rick. And you're encouraging an entire generation just to be a Rick. Yeah, I'm trying to change my name to that. So I figured you have Richard, right? And then it's like, how do you get there? It's like Richard, Rick, or Rich, Rick, Dick. And then I'm like, well, we could actually go Patrick, Rick, Rick, Dick. I mean, it's actually fewer steps.

It's only three steps. Because Rick is at the back end of Patrick. Yeah, I get it. Exactly. You don't meet many ricks who say, oh, hey, Rick, what's your full name? Patrick. No, it's always Richard. No Patrick. Every time. I didn't think about that.

You just started a Rick podcast, Patrick. Yeah. They're just black pill it up. Exclusively on Rumble. All right. Kids. Kids, don't be. And by the way, Patrick, you are the voice of a generation. You are not the voice of millennials, even though you're belly aching.

You are kind of the voice of Gen Z's. When I see, when I'm around Gen Z, boys all they want to talk about is conspiracies they're so into conspiracies from sunblock and sunglasses to the moon landing to everything

dude I'm telling you they eat that stuff up yes it's exhausting what's the way just before what's the current one that's big right now is it the moon

no I don't think it is they're really big on Kim Trails right now don't know Chem Trails I don't know what the biggest one's going right now is. Okay. We'll have to find out.

Alien stuff's pretty big right now. I got some of these high schoolers that want to do a conspiracy corner on Wilcane Country. They want to come in and be the host and the voice of conspiracy corner on Wilkney Country. Little of they know, I already pitched that segment. Missing throat. Yeah, yeah, I know. Little bit of they know. I've already got Missing Throat Pat.

I've got the voice of a generation tinfoil Pat. All right. That's going to do it for us today here on Will Can Country. We hope you will follow us in Spotify or Apple, and we will see you again next time. Listen ad-free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcasts. And Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show, ad-free on the Amazon Music app.