Will Cain Country - Michael Malice: What’s Gone Wrong on the Right? (ft. Danny Polishchuk & Joe Machi)

Episode Date: March 19, 2026

Featuring Guest Host Michael Malice, Host of "YOUR WELCOME" The Big Apple has long been considered one of the best cities in the world, but now with sky high taxation and a Socialist mayor, does that still ring true? Host of ‘The Boyscast' & ‘The Bath House’ Danny Polishchuk joins Malice to discuss the decline of New York City over the years, taking a look at Governor Kathy Hochul’s (D-NY) desperate attempts to lure back the states’ cash cows, and sharing some of their worst experiences while living in the city. Plus, Comedian and 'Gutfeld!' Writer Joe Machi joins the show, sharing his writing process and advice for how to handle a tough audience. Malice and Machi also break down DHS Secretary Nominee Markwayne Mullin’s (R-OK) beef with Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) and take a sobering look at the upcoming midterm elections. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@willcainnews⁠⁠⁠) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I am ecstatic to be filling in for the great Will Kane today on Will Kane Country. We have a couple of great guests coming up, Joe Mackey, who is one of the best comedians out there, writes for Gutfeld, and Danny Polchuk, who is the co-host of the Boyscast podcast, as well as host of low-value male and the bathhouse. I want to shoot to the producers, Dan and Patrick. How have things been going this week since Will's been away? Welcome, man. Good to have you. It's been interesting, you know?

Thank you. Philin hosts are been doing a great job. We got Aaron Berg in. It was fantastic. Oh. Yeah. Yeah.

Interesting is always a euphemism. Yeah, I know. I call myself saying it in my head, I'm like, you know what? Probably she used a better word. It's just a wet dream for me. It's like, you get the book, whoever you want. And I'm like, well, I want Aaron Berg. I want Tom Shaloo.

I want Tim Young. And I want to end it with a cherry on top. you know yeah well i may i said that wrong um yeah i think you said that wrong i think i said that i mean uh a dream just a dream regular dream yeah you're you're patrick your wet dreams about tom chaloo i think it's appropriate maybe for a nighttime show and i i think you might be the first person in history to have made that claim i'm glad we're off to such a wonderful start um i'm excited to speak to you guys here from lovely dallas i now reside in austin and we're going to over to Danny, who is in Scenic New York, to discuss the debacle that is happening in my former

hometown. Danny, are you there? Yeah, what's up, Mike? How's it going, man? Great to finally talk for people who don't know. Danny is co-host of the boys' cast with Ryan Long, host of low-value mail and The Bath House on X, Danny at Danny Jokes. I have to ask, of all the show titles he could have had the bathhouse. It's a live call-in show that we do from the stand comedy club, which I'm sure you're familiar with. We do it from the green room. Yes, sir.

And I kind of just, I didn't give it a ton of thought. I just thought that would be a funny name for a, you know, it's a bunch of guys, sometimes women hanging around taking phone calls, nothing. I know what you're thinking, Mike. Nothing gay. Do you? Okay, well, I'm not thinking that at all. That was the author of what I was not thinking, but I was just curious.

Okay, because that is the number one thing that people usually bring up is they go bathhouse. That's odd. Yeah, we could save that for the Wet Dream Show in the after hours. Danny, I have a clip of, yes, something, well, I don't know if that's the, there's any cherries left. I want to play a clip because there was something that Kathy Hokel said, Governor of New York, Kathy Hokel, that I, couldn't believe because they're at a point where they're playing they're saying the quiet part out loud can we play that clip please now there are some patriotic millionaires who stepped up

okay cut me the checks they just if you want to be supportive but maybe the first step should be go down to Palm Beach and see we can bring back home because our tax base has been eroded so I feel so if we don't have a problem it is like I have to look at the fact that we are in competition with other states yeah I I I I, it's very rare for me to be triggered by something the politician says. And you got to give me a minute to go on my rant because I've lived in New York all my life until 2021. I still don't know how to drive a car, much of the amusement of everyone on the internet.

And to start, the idea that if somehow you emigrate from New York to Florida, Texas, California, or any other state, that somehow you're not patriotic is in and of itself, deranged. And if she admits that the issue is New York is not competitive with other states in terms of doing business or simply residency, the answer isn't to blame the people who left to find better situations for themselves, their companies, and their families. It's to take a long, hard look in the mirror. Unfortunately, I have it on good authority that Kathy Hokel doesn't cast a reflection. So it's going to be really hard for her to take a look in the mirror. But you are in New York right now. I'd love to hear your reaction to

these words. I mean, again, I never knew that patriotism extended to more local areas. I thought it was a more broader framework, right? I didn't know that was. I will say, I mean, it's, again, that's crazy. People are free to live wherever they want for whatever reason they want in this country. Last I checked. I will say something, though, this is more of a reference to you. You have a from, I don't know when, I think right before you moved to Austin that lives in my head all the time. I don't even know if it went viral or anything, but it was something about someone crossing the street and blocking traffic, and you called them Cretans.

And I walk around the city. I don't know. The look on your faces, you don't even remember it. But it was just someone was, you know how people will just walk whenever they choose and the inconvenience, you know, 20 people who waited their turn to cross the street, and you called them Cretans. and I walk around the city and that tweet just plays on loop in my head as I watch these Cretans block people in traffic. Well, the look on my face was I thought, was I thought you were about to cancel me. Because if anyone says, I had this tweet of you for five years ago, I'm like, uh-oh, am I going to go to jail?

There's another tweet I thought you were referencing because I remember before I moved out in New York in 2021, I had seen two people smoking cigarettes. on the train within like a week of each other. And having grown up in my entire life in New York, that was not the norm. And I pointed out, I said, look, once this happens, New York's standard of living is in freefall. And people were clowning me saying, oh, you can't handle a little cigarette smoke, blah, blah, blah. And then I kept adding to that tweet because not long after that, fist fights on the train, stabbing. My train station got shot up by a guy and the FBI tape was right across my old apartment door.

and then we went from cigarette smoking one day to women being set on fire the next year. So all those people who were like, this is nothing, that's how it starts. You raise taxes 1% fine, 2% fine, 3%. At a certain point, everyone, just like in poker, has their limit. They're like, you know what, Kathy Hokel? I'm going to go to Florida where it's actually easier for me to waive my American flag than it is in many parts of New York City and New York State. I think I have something to add to your tweet.

I was at the Port Authority Times Square station about two weeks ago. And I saw, you know, those iconic blue coffee cups? I saw, you know what I'm talking about? Of course. Those little paper, right? I saw one of those filled with human feces just on the ground of the Port Authority. That, you know what? You make a good point.

Maybe it's actually, we're bouncing back. Yeah. How do you know it was, I mean, I'm going to push back a little. It has a distinct news. How do you know his taste? Well, you lived in New York City for how long? 40 years. 40 years. So you live here long enough.

You're able to discern between human and animal leavings. I'm so glad that the second Will Kane, I'm so glad the second Will leaves his show goes completely off the rails. Like this is not the typical... It's Patrick is to blame. We have... I also want to talk... We have another...

We have another quote from Kathy Hockel in 2022 when she was singing quite a different song. Can we play that clip as well? And we're here to say that the era of Trump and Zeldon and Molinaro just jump on a bus and head down to Florida where you belong. Okay? Get out of town. Get out of town. Because you don't represent our values. You are not New Yorkers.

So I think. what's funny about that is her deranged assumption that if people leave New York, they're going to take a bus to go to Florida. When I left New York, I got myself a first-class, one-way airline ticket, and since I'm a little person, the armrests were too far apart, so it was a waste of money. But point being, the people who left weren't, like, these MAGA people that she's imagining from the Midwest. There were, well, it's much easier, obviously, for a wealthy person to flee a state than someone who's never resources and you could have two homes and you're going to spend the majority of time in Florida and mark yourself as a Florida resident. And, you know, it's like Thatcher said, the problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. You would think she would see

this coming, but that would require a level of intelligent foresight that is obviously far past that of the current governor of New York. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that quote. I mean, at the time she wasn't even elected. Did she not just, was she not the governor strictly because Andrew Cuomo got a little grabby? Right. Right. So she wasn't even elected. She was just kind of have put in there. And I, you know, she's obviously not factoring in the work at home phenomenon where, where even if you're not, you know, obscenely wealthy, people are like, look, you know, you just kind of do the math and I can do my same job from a much cheaper, nicer place

in Texas or Florida. The weather is a lot better. You don't have to deal with all the nonsense in New York. And it's not dangerous. And it seems like, you know, obviously, I'm sure you and I are. agree where it's like this is almost a common sense thing like if it wasn't for stand-up i don't think i would even live in new york you know it's not my first choice of places to live in the united states i kind of live here because i need to but and you know new york is a great place to vacation and

it grinds you down to live here as i'm sure you're well aware and you're making you know i'm making a lot of trade-offs i'm shocked i'm shocked that as a former new yorker i'm at a point now And I know people are going to recoil at me saying this. I actually enjoy Los Angeles more than New York. Wow. I want to hear your thoughts on this. The reason is, first of all, it's the weather, which is not a minor thing. Second of all, in Los Angeles, there's fewer people right on top of you, fewer obnoxious people, to put it mildly.

And in L.A., of all places, this is going to sound like a joke, and I'm not kidding, compared to New York, there seems to be more of a sense of hope. When I was in New York, there was always this idea that if you go to a party and event, you never. know who you're going to run into some interesting person making, I don't know, socks or they breed hamsters or just something like interesting personalities. And that fell by the wayside because if you're going to do something small and intriguing, you're going to be an Etsy, not in NYC. And it's harder and harder to put up your shingle and harder, hard to justify the cost of living. Yeah. I mean, look, that's a nice perk. I'm sure I've been to parties or whatever where there's been some interesting person there. Is it worth everything else that you have to put up with?

I mean, the cost of living here is obscene. Like, I don't even really know how else to put it. So look, I mean, Kathy Hochle is, you know, her little current begging act is humorous, I guess, to say, like, you know, be a patriot, move back here. We need your tax dollars. But I don't think that's going to cut it, you know. But at the end of the day, the thing that New York does, does have going for it is that there's so many people moving here who have never lived here because they're moving here for some idea or tracing a dream. And you know, you get this revolving door here of people who are just like, New York City, got to live in New York City.

And then, you know, for whatever reason, they come here. And so, you know, I mean, I look, I talk to lots of New Yorkers and they're like, I'm never leaving. And I understand if you have family here, I don't. So, uh, I don't know. It definitely has its downside, so let's say that. Let's take a quick break. I'm Michael Malice, filling in for Will Cain on Will Cain Country. Join Fox in supporting our troops.

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I'm Michael Malice, filling in for Will Cain. I was those never leave people. That was me. I thought there's no way from my cold dead hands. And then for me, it was the vaccine passports. And the idea that I'm going to have to show some form of ID to get sushi, I was like, I'm out. And everyone, like I said earlier with the taxes, everyone has their limit and their point of which, like, I can't do this anymore. And once you leave, it's exactly, exactly like an abusive relationship.

You look back and you think to yourself, how did I put myself through this? Like, what was I thinking? It is very different for you. Obviously, there's a huge stand-up comedy scene in New York. You're aware of the situation you're in. You're not making any pretenses to the contrary. And I think something New Yorkers tell themselves is, oh, I can handle it these other people are, week they can't. I'm tough. But a certain point, it's like how many black eyes is it going to take

until you're like, you know what? Maybe this is an ideal relationship. Yeah. I mean, I've said this before. I know this will never happen. But if they let New Yorkers carry guns legally, I think the place would turn around fairly quickly. I think the, you know, because you know there's like the element of living in Texas or Florida where you have to be a little more cordial just because you never know who has a gun. I think, and, you know, maybe this could go completely sideways. But I feel like if they just let people legally carry guns in New York City, there could be some unseen benefit.

And I say that as a Canadian. I think the issue, I'm not even. But, oh, good. A good, good Lord. A new low. I'm going to push back a little bit because the issue I don't think is people, having guns, I think it's the issues having people recognize the right to use them. I'm thinking of Carverton House, obviously that wasn't in New York, but you see these cases in the subway

where Good Samaritan step in when someone is being violently assaulted, and they are persecuted and prosecuted at far more stringent and consistent rates than those who actually commit violent crimes and the citizenry. It is clearly a policy of New York City specifically that self-defense is not on the table. We saw this where a woman had squatters. in her house and the cops and she changed her locks and the cops were called in her. And they took her with handcuffs because it's the squatters who's have to be protected and not the homeowners. There is a systemic assault on the right to protect yourself and your family in New York. And that's one of the reasons I moved. If you did have that gun in New York City and

you used it, God help you. You would clearly be viewed as the criminal and probably called a white nationalist in the process. It's the same thing that's happening in Canada actually right now. I don't know, I mean, I could see the disdain for that country on your face. But so I don't know how much you follow it. But there was an incident in, somewhere in Ontario. Yeah, yeah. Somewhere in Ontario where a guy broke into somebody's house with a crossbow at four in the morning to rob this guy's house, the guy who owned the home, I guess took the crossbow

from the man and then ended up stabbing the guy. And then they ruled that he stabbed the guy too many times. and therefore was charged with, I don't know if it was like, it wasn't murder because he didn't kill the guy, which was his mistake, because even the premier of Ontario, Doug Ford was like,

you want to finish the job. That way he can't sing essentially, which is a crazy thing that come from, you know, like an elected official, but essentially because there's like this home invasion, like wave in Ontario where they're, you know,

they just don't prosecute them. And people are like, what are we supposed to do? You know, to the point where they're like, leave your car unlocked so people can just easily steal it. That way you don't have to worry about getting in some sort of confrontation. Crazy.

And, you know, New York is a similar vibe. But for Kathy Hochel to just say, hey, it's your patriotic duty to come back here and pay obscene taxes is crazy. But I don't expect much more from her. Can we take a break for a second and talk about, Ford because his brother Rob Ford I think is the greatest politician of any of our I made a movie about it don't know Rob Ford oh did you really I may yeah there's a movie you can find it on the internet it's called Filth City from 2017 and it's about a crack smoking mayor from Toronto and it's a full feature-length film you yeah and

and Doug Ford for yeah I was just gonna say sorry Doug Ford threatened to run me over with his car on television from making the movie he was very upset about it. Rob Ford, his late brother, was caught smoking crack cocaine, literally.

Yeah. And his defense was, yes, I admit I smoked crack cocaine, but it was during one of my drunken stupors. Yeah. And a lot of videos...

I mentioned a president. Yeah, I know, and a lot of videos came out where you're like, he was in a lot of drunken stupors. He used to get, at one point, he was being investigated,

by the Toronto police for murder. And they had a helicopter that was just following him around constantly. And this is the mayor of the fifth largest city in North America. Okay. On his way to City Hall, he would stop at the liquor store by like a little bottle of vodka. Then he would drive, this is by himself. He would drive to his elementary school that he went to. He would go park, walk into the woods, drink it by a little.

himself. He's being surveilled this entire time. You drink it by himself, then get back in his car and drive to work. There's also, I remember, a footage of him trying to throw out of football. And as he threw it, he just fell over. He fell over. Yeah, yeah. He was a very high center of gravity on him. He was literally Chris Farley. He didn't look like Chris Farley. He was hilarious. Yeah. He had some some personal problems for sure. But. And there's some really vulgar lines about him being accused of an affair, which we cannot repeat on the show. We cannot. No.

But you can find it on YouTube. And if you want to see, I was going to say, if you want to see one of the funniest things, you know that DJ Deadmouse? Have you ever heard of him? He's a very famous DJ. So he lives in Toronto. And for a while, he would do this podcast in his Ferrari where he would do a podcast where he would do a podcast where he would drive around Toronto in his Ferrari with a guest. And he would always go to Tim. Hortons, which for people who don't know, it's like the, maybe some of the worst coffee on

earth. But it was, you know, it was a Canadian staple. And Rob Ford's already did an episode with him. And it is hilarious. He can barely fit in the car. And they're just driving around. It's so funny. I'm going to ask you one last question before you head out.

Yeah. People gave me heat because I donated money to John Federman to win the Pennsylvania Senate race. every day, every day I get so many emails, never seen so many emails. People are like, how did you see this coming? You were right. This guy's amazing. I'd love to hear your thoughts on, and this is why I also wanted Jasmine Crockett to win the primary, because I knew it would be a good show.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on where Federman is in contemporary politics. He seems like, to me at least, just a true kind of centrist. He doesn't really seem to, you know, strictly toe party lines. that's kind of my read on it is he kind of just calls it like it is you know he's more of an umpire and you know of certain things he agrees with he goes with that and i mean i know the republicans seem to love him because he's just not like a brain dead democrat but uh well he is that but he is yeah well that that seems to be the the secret sauce i guess uh but that you know that's my read on it is he just kind of you know he doesn't he's not super tied into his you know party politics he just

calls him like he sees him, which... Yeah, I just saw a quote from him yesterday, where he was on a podcast, and he said, the Democratic, paraphrasing, the Democratic Party is I'm a leader, they're governed by TDS. And I'm like, I have called this... Yeah, I've called this one so well,

I should be buying lottery tickets because I've not seen any such return on investment as I've had donated to Federman. I'm very proud of myself, patting myself on the board. Yeah, there you go. Uh, yeah, I mean... One last question before I let you go. I know Democrats hate him for it, but I'm sure they don't love hearing that.

But yeah, go ahead. One last guy for you. I think Mumdani, the new mayor of the boy mayor of New York City, is nowhere near as bad as many people feared he was going to be. Correct. During the primaries, he obviously stole, in a sense, the nomination from the establishment party hack, Andrew Cuomo. He got in. I thought day one, just like Trump on day one and Biden and day one, he'd be like, look, I'm a Democratic Socialist of America.

I just put the Democratic Party cloak on to get through to the voters. But now that I'm here, I'm going to govern his DSA candidate. I have not seen him do anything that a liberal Democrat wouldn't do. And in fact, the fact that he's in the White House shaking hands with Trump more than once when Governor Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan was in the Oval Office, she was covering her face with a file folder so as not to be seen, which I don't even understand how that would work. I'm curious, as your thoughts, someone who's on the ground, if Mumdani is better, worse, or about as bad as you'd feared? Well, nobody could be worse than de Blasio.

That's kind of the high watermark in my opinion. Right. And you know what? I get this a lot from people asking me, like, I'll go on the road doing stand-up. And people are like, is it really bad there? I'm like, no. Look, he's only done really one thing so far, which was paying locals to shovel the snow. And as much as people don't want to do that.

want to admit it. It worked out well. It was a great idea. Instead of, you know, hiring some contractor who is like the brother of some city counselor and they skim off a bunch of money. He took the money. He gave it directly back to the people to, uh, you know, address an issue in the city. It was the next day. The snow was all gone. The money went in the pockets of the people. You know, I've seen other cities, Toronto, for example, saying we want to emulate that. As much as people want to be like, oh, what a silly idea. It worked perfect. It was a great idea. And you know what?

But we're, what are we? We're three months into this. So, but so far, so good. I'll say that. People want to, you know. I hear you. But my point, my point being when people who are radical are voted in, he's certainly campaigned as a radical and in all his rhetoric.

I and many others was expecting on first one major radical change. Yes. So far, I've just seen him being a leftist party hack. Yeah. I mean, he's trying to raise. property taxes 9.5% across the board to make up for a budget shortfall, which, I mean, obviously he also campaigned as the no rent increase guy. And I don't know if he understands how that might work. But if you raise property taxes across the board, 9.5% that'll likely increase

everybody's rent. I don't know if he's looked that deep into it. But I mean, again, he needs a lot of the stuff that he campaigned on, he needs the state to assist him with. He can't just go, unilaterally do this stuff. So for the stuff he is allowed to do so far, there's no free buses yet. But the snow shoveling went great. So far, so good on the snow shoveling. So. Danny, it was a great pleasure having you. Thank you. It was a great time for having you here. Find him on Twitter at Danny Jokes. And the podcasts are the boys' cast, low value mail. And I'll see you at the bathhouse. All right, folks. We're going to take a quick break. and we'll be back with one of my absolute favorite people, comedian Joe Mackie.

Welcome back. Michael Mal is filling in for the Great Will Cain, and you folks are in for a real treat because we have with us right now, live from New York, one of my absolute favorite people. He's a writer on Gutfeld. If you ever see him on the road, you're going to have a heck of a time. It is comedian Joe Mackey. Hey, how's it going, Mike? It is going superb. Joe, I was talking to producers earlier. I think I got a good Joe Mackey impression down.

I might kind of get into it in a second. One thing I want to talk to you about is when you write for Gutfeld as you do, you obviously have to be on top of the news and try to. Can you talk a bit about how you take news and break it down to make jokes? Because it's really kind of hard to kind of digest the idea and also get into a punchline. Yeah. Well, one of the things is like when I first come in the morning, I like to come in fresh.

I don't like to have seen the news. And then I like to read the story and then write the worst, meanest thing I can think of and then dial it back and flip the logic. So my goal is to try to say something that hasn't been said a thousand times already on on X or social media or whatever. And that becomes really challenging. But like today there was a story about a woman in Florida being thrown out to, they're trying to evict her because she won't leave the hospital even though the hospital says she's healthy. So I try to write a joke where it's something no one else has said. So the joke is from Greg's perspective. I have the opposite problem. I have to throw unhealthy women out of my house.

So I don't know if it's going to get in, but like that's a mean thing to do, but I put it on Greg. And you're not going to see that on X. That's what you want to do when you're trying to write jokes in the age of the internet. One of the things that is frustrating for me, you know, being a Gutfeld regular, there's a studio audience there, it's, I think, mostly tourists in the Midwest, really fun, friendly, fun people. But a lot of times I've talked about this with a cat. I've talked to this with Greg. I'll have a line that I think is kind of funny, and it just dies. And I remember, you know, there was that, uh, those two terrorist kids who threw a bomb

next to Gracie Mansion. Um, and I made the joke that, you know, it's, it's a good thing. Grock doesn't speak Arabic because then they could have looked up how to do it correctly. And I, then I thought it was red meat. I said, do you know what else doesn't speak Arabic? The Constitution. And silence. And I was like, come on, this is for you guys.

So is it frustrating for you sometimes writing something you think is like gold or like a home run? Yeah. And then they just, it's just crickets. I totally relate to that because a lot of times the gut-felled audience seems to me to be more like of the five audience, you know. They're older. Yeah, oh, that's right. Their views of stand-up comedy and jokes are older. So when you come in with like an almost anti-compet.

comedy punchline like that that's great in the clubs or great on podcast. It doesn't really translate, even though I think if they thought about it, it's a pretty funny take. It's just like in the moment, I don't know where he's going with that. But yeah, I definitely, I definitely know what that means, what that feels like. Trust me, if you want to talk about jokes not working, I'm the guy. So speaking of lines that didn't work, there's hearings right. now or yesterday, Mark Wayne Mullen, who's being nominated to replace Christy Knoem, he got into it with Rand Paul. And there's a quote, I wanted to get the exact quote because I was kind of shocked when I read

the, because a lot of times you see these quotes in the news, you're like, what's the real quote? You know, what are people saying? I wanted to read the exact quote. So this was Mark Wayne Mullen about Rand Paul. He said, quote, I respect Bernie Sanders because he's an open socialist and you know that he's a communist so you know what you're getting. Rand Paul is a freaking snake, and I understand completely why his neighbor did what he did, and I told him that to his face.

Now, let me break this down a little bit. Rand Paul is a libertarian, and if anything, he bends the knee on libertarian ideas more than Bernie Sanders does on socialist ideas. He gives the Republicans more than one would expect. Like Ron Paul, for example, his father was in the house, and he was known as Dr. No, because he would just vote no on everything because he regarded as unconstitutional, and people kind of gave him that right to do so. To say, for people to remember this,

oh, we got a fire alarm thing going on. This is great. Rand Paul was assaulted by his neighbor. Rand Paul was assaulted by his neighbor. He got several ribs broken. I think they take out a piece of his lung. For people don't know, breaking your ribs, other than like a kidney stone,

is one of the most painful things out there. to say, I understand why his neighbor did what he did is, to me, crazy. But to go up to someone, like, if that happens, you know what, I understand why your neighbor did what you did. This is someone who's really got a screw loose, in my opinion. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Yeah, he's trying to get confirmed in a law enforcement position. And he talks about how he empathizes with the person who assaulted a U.S. senator over politics.

That's not a good look. I mean, you're replacing someone who shot a puppy and wrote about it in her book, like it was a good thing. Like, that was going to make her popular. So six and one, half a dozen in the other. But yeah, that's bananas. Rand Paul, I mean, he was MAGA before MAGA. And Mark Wayne, if I'm not mistaken, he threatened to fight someone in the Senate already.

So you got to question what the thinking is. where there's, what, 330 million people in this country, and this is the guy, couldn't we pick someone that hasn't tried to fight someone in the Senate? I don't know. That's just, that seems like a low bar, but, you know, shooting a dog to that, but fair enough. But, you know, part of me is a big fan of back in the day

when senators used to cane each other into oblivion on the floor of the Senate, but I also, it's just. That was the one the Senate was, That was when the Senate was elected by the state. I almost said erected. That's right. That's right. The state houses, the state legislature.

And then when they switched it to the people voting for these six-year terms, the Senate became much more corrupt. So it was almost a different era. The Senate had a lot more integrity back then. Now you call someone a- Yeah, when they were gaining each other. Yeah, now you call someone a snake. It's almost like, yes, I thank you. I'm a very good snake.

I'm also, I am surprised that this was the pick. This leads me to another point, the filibuster. I made the point, something that I want to hear you talk about is sometimes when there's a complex idea, it's really hard to get it through even as a joke. So let me break down the filibuster. The Democrats voted to abolish the filibuster, and they would have had it but for two votes. Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Kristen Sinema of Arizona, both who became independence, left the Democratic Party. If they had voted for it, they would have passed it. My point is, I don't understand how conservatives take what Democrats say at face value, because many of those Democrats, in my opinion, voted for it, knowing it was going to fail. And Kristen Sinema in her book said this explicitly. She said, five or six Democratic senators were, quote, hiding behind my

skirt as she pushed back. Because if I'm a senator and the filibuster goes away, I can't be Rand Paul. I can't be Thomas Massey. My one vote matters infinitely less, whereas now, especially in the Senate, if I'm one senator and I want to make a fuss, I can really put a cog in the machine. I'm thinking specifically of when Trump got elected and he put Fort Matt Gates to be Attorney General. And it was very clear that two or three senators called up John Thune and were like, we're not voting for this guy and the nomination was pulled. The power of Murkowski and Susan Collins of Maine are both disproportionate. They're just one vote. But when you have that filibuster, that one vote matters. If you lose the filibuster, then all of a sudden, I'm just a randa with the other members of my caucus.

And I think a lot of these Democrats are far more interested in personal power than they are in the Democratic Party. But when you try to tell us to people, they can't see it. Well, yeah, and it goes both ways. John Cornyn is pretending to support the SAVE Act right now, so he can get Trump's endorsement to get elected again and then stab him in the back again. I think what people forget, there's a lack of foresight in getting rid of the filibuster

because gridlock is usually good. I think of the Patriot Act. It's like when the government makes a law, it usually is bad. That's the way I look at government. And Republicans are facing a challenging midterm that's an understatement. A lot of polls that say that Republicans are doing well should be mailed to Coligard immediately

because that's what they are. But yeah, I mean, we're heading into, nuking the filibuster right before you're heading for a massive congressional and most likely Senate loss. It's ludicrous. And 2028's going to be challenging for Republicans as well. I was at the gas station yesterday. Gas was near $4, and I saw a Trump sticker saying I did that, pointing at the gas prices.

And one of the only things Biden did that was smart during his entire term was during the Strategic Oil Reserve to try to lower gas prices. Because most people don't pay attention, but people notice that. And, yeah, not a good long-term thinking to nuke the filibuster. Yeah, because people don't realize if the new filibuster gets nuked today, you don't have a working house majority. The Republicans have a one-seat majority. You can't count on Massey, so you're not going to get anything through.

Now, the argument is, well, the Democrats are definitely going to do it, so we should do it first. Even if that were true, if you nuke the filibuster today, I don't see what you're getting through the house. It's going to be barely anything. Well, go ahead. Philibusters in the Senate, if I'm not mistaken. Right?

Yeah, but my point is if you have to have a bill, right, you've got to get through both houses. Right, right. But you can't get the MAGA agenda through the House right now. You don't have the votes there. So, yeah, it'll be easier to get it through the Senate, but how are you getting anything through the House?

I would argue that the House isn't even interested in getting through the mega agenda. I don't know what that even is anymore. But, yeah, I mean, certainly you have stalwart like Thomas Massey who's kind of holding to what America first really initially was, and then we could get the big beautiful bill passed, which basically rescinded what Doge cut.

So to me, I'm in one of those situations, from, like, it doesn't matter who you vote for sometimes. And I know that's like a non-answer that a lot of people want to hear right now, but I think it's true. It was funny. I remember I was my first time back on Gutfeld after a couple of years away. This was March of last year or February, early on in the Trump administration. And Greg has his monologue, something to the effect of the Democrats are never going to win again

because all they stand for is awful and terrible. And then the first person to my right, I think it was Kennedy, I don't remember, you know, was saying, you know, yeah, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I'm sitting there and I'm nervous because you have the gutfeld audience there. And I said, guys, it's not even the end of the first quarter and you're having your victory lap. This is crazy. The Democratic Party is the oldest political party on earth. They will say or do whatever they need to do to increase and maintain their power. they've got two years to figure out what's going to work and what doesn't.

They can run focus groups. They can put bills out their trial balloons, you know, what sticks. And all they have to do is wait for Trump to script one thing, which he inevitably will, because no president is omniscient and omnipotent. Something's going to happen out of control. And you're running that issue. And a year later, I've been proven correct because I don't think anyone, you know, on the Republican side is saying, you know, these midterms are, it's a given.

The Republicans are going to do great. Quite the opposite. it. Yeah, I mean, and it's a real shame because Trump started out with a chance to build a coalition that could last a generation because for the first time, in my lifetime, urban and rural, black and white, Latino, Asian, really realized that they had the same grievances. And Trump was addressing those grievances, school choice, fixing health care, fighting crime. Yeah, a lot of that. stuff really has been put on the back burner if it's even mentioned. I can't remember the last time I've heard a Republican mention school choice, and to me that's a no-brainer. And it seems like those

issues have kind of gone by the wayside. And with it, the Republican majority. And someone who's works in New York City, I thought Mom Donnie was going to win, and I hate socialism. But when he started talking about the rent, I'm like, that's something people care about. And a lot of what Republicans are talking about now, it's not things people care about. Let's take a quick break. I'm Michael Malice, filling in for Will Cain on Will Cain Country. At Medcan, we know that life's greatest moments are built on a foundation of good health, from the big milestones to the quiet winds.

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I don't know if you saw this, for people who haven't seen this, Nancy Pelosi is retiring after many years from San Francisco House District. She released a seven-minute-long retirement video. I watched that video from beginning to end. She doesn't mention minorities, D-E-I, LGBTQ, not once. She talks about St. Francis of Assisi, how much she likes going to church, and there's a Veterans Day parade. So Nancy Pelosi, for whatever people say about her, has been superb at getting the Democrats to get their agenda through Congress. She's probably the heaviest hitter that they have, and she saw the writing on the wall.

We saw this happen in Virginia. The candidate was asked some question about so-called trans kids, and she immediately pivoted to, what about, you know, groceries and putting food in the table? That's what my voters are concerned about. My opponent doesn't have a plan, Winston-Merald Sears doesn't have a plan, and she won by the biggest margin for Democrats since I think the 80s or 70s, including the biggest margins in the Virginia State Legislature. So if Democrats run on this issue, gas, putting food on the table, which were historically conservative issues. You know, Reagan in 1980 looked at the camera and asked people, hey, are you better off than you were four years ago? Is it easier by food and store? Is it easier to fill up the tank of gas in your car?

And he got a huge electoral mandate, including the first Republican Senate since the 50s. This was 1980. So if the Democrats stick to this path, it's not going to look good for the GOP. Right. And some of Trump's success has a negative effect because I think the pendulum is swung against trans. So once those issues start to go your way, you kind of value them less at the ballot box. Same with the border. He hasn't done any enforcement on workplace enforcement,

but people think the border is far more secure than it was. So that could actually hurt Republicans a little bit. Going back to past politicians, look at what starting wars has done to the electoral prospects of Republican presidents. George Bush 1 and 2. We ushered in years of Democrats. So, yeah, it's not looking bright. I'm hoping I'm hoping Trump can return to you know kind of right-wing American populist

politics I don't have much faith in the Republican Party because they a lot of Republicans never believed that John Thune would Mitch McConnell never a lot of these people that were against tariffs tariffs worked very well I just I don't understand why we're not trying to do anything legislatively we've done a lot with executive orders, but very little of what Trump's son has been codified. So in a couple years, we could have a boomerang back to left-wing globalism. So I worry tremendously about what the Republican Party can do because it's the only hedge against that in any way that's effective.

I mean, I love my libertarian friends. It's just pulling it 3%. It's hard to get stuff done. It's also something that's another big concern and a surprise. he hasn't retired yet, is Clarence Thomas, who is getting up there in age. We, of course, wish him and all the Supreme Court justices good health, but everyone remembers what happened with Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who got replaced with Amy Coney-Barrant. And Scalia before that, yeah. If something happens, right, so it's very easy for, right now,

there's, what, 53 Republican senators, I don't think Susan Collins is particularly reliable. Murkowski, you cannot rely on her at all. So you're ready down to 51. So the idea that you get even someone who's halfway decent like a Kavanaugh through at this point is not a given. And if right now, Roy Cooper in, was in North Carolina, looks like he's going to pick up that seat. In Ohio, it's neck and neck. And Vivek, it looks like he's not doing anywhere near as the donor class thought he was going to do. So it very easy to see Ohio losing both the governor and the Senate seat, especially in an off-term elections. That's 51.

Susan Collins is an electoral beast. she's always does better in elections than she does in the polling, but it's looking shaky for her. So that's already getting you to 50. So, and then if you have 50 and one of them to Murkowski, you don't really have a Republican House majority in the Senate. So if you're going to try to get a Supreme Court justice through in the next two years, good luck to you. Yeah, and they can also poll the Mitch McConnell and not even vote on the nomination. Just withhold it. So we have eight justices.

So it's, yeah, it's not looking good. I'm hoping that Trump can course correct and start talking about things that matter to Americans. I don't have a lot of faith in that happen, but Trump has fooled me before when he's reversed course correctly. So I still hold out a little bit of hope that he can do that again. I'm curious to hear your thoughts. I was going to say Vivek insulted American workers.

So that's a hard way to win an election. Repeatedly. Yeah, it's hard to win an election as an America first candidate when you do that, even though Trump won Ohio big. Ohio is a lot of industrial, it's one of the classic rust states, but there's lots of factory blue-collar people there, and they do not, and I do not blame them at all, like being talked down to, who no one does.

It's just gratuitous and counterproductive. I'm curious to hear your thoughts. There have been several articles that seem to have, have been placed, who knows whether it's Trump people, Rubio people, or just made up, it could be anything, that J.D. Vance is being squeezed out of the talks with Iran, that Trump is basically doing end run about him. There was that photo that I think a lot of people saw where he's at the head that would look like the kids table. He's there. There's Tulsi, and they were kind of exiled, and the people making decisions were elsewhere. The argument was, well, you don't want to have

the president, the vice president, the same room when you're having these kind of huge attacks, but at the same time when they got Osama bin Laden, very famous in that photo, you had a president, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, the vice president, and Hillary Clinton. They were all in that room together. Do you think there is this growing rift between Trump and his vice president, just like there had been with his previous vice president, Mike Pence? Yes, I do. I mean, even you saw a little bit of yesterday when Tulsi kind of dodged the question

whether or not she thought Iran was an imminent threat. she said that's the president's decision to make, which is true, but it kind of was not what you were hoping for from intelligence. But I think that Vance has been more reluctant to support the war. He's a person who served in the military, kind of just like Joe Kent did, who just left, who resigned. But I think Vance is also a team player in a way that Mike Pence wasn't. So, yeah, he's getting iced out, but I don't foresee him. him abandoning the ticket in any way or anything like that. But yeah, I think there would definitely be a rift between someone who served in the military

and a president who hasn't, who seems to, at least when you make a statement like you're going to end the war when you feel it in your bones, that to me does not sound like you're confident that you have a plan. And that would be a red flag for someone like JD Vans. On the other hand, and I'm sure you'll agree with this, what Trump says publicly might not be what he says privately. So he might be coming off publicly like this is going to go on forever just to scare the ruling class in Iran, where privately he does have certain things. They just want to show his hand in the poker. So we don't have that information.

That's true. In fairness to the president. I saw people online claiming that this is J.D. Vance being given cover to later disavow the Iran war, which I thought crazy because if you as the nominee go against Trump, he's not going to smile and nod. He's going to go scorched earth. Trump, in his second administration, very clearly staffed people on the criterion of loyalty as opposed to other things. And after what happened in his first administration, I don't particularly blame him. Yeah, that's true. I don't buy that at all, just because I don't think it would work. And I think anyone with sophistication would know that that wouldn't work. It's very hard to run against the policies of a ticket that you were in.

I think Kamala Harris would tell you that. Yeah. So do you think, I know this year out from Iowa, New Hampshire, do you think, prediction time, Joe Mackay, I may remind you, you are under oath. Okay. Does J.D. Vance have a lock on the Republican nomination should he choose to run? I don't know if he has a lock. I would say Marco Rubio doesn't. People are floating him more and more, I think.

than in a primary, a guy who pushed a gang of eight amnesty bill in a Republican Party has no chance. J.D. Vansky's very good at speaking. I thought that debate with Tim Walts demonstrated that. He's got a great backstory. He did serve in the military. He seemed more reserved about the wars. So, yeah, I think he could win.

I don't know if I would say he's a lock, but I don't know who on the Republican bench could build a coalition like Trump did in 24. But I don't know. Time has a way of surprising me. So I've been wrong so many times before I'd hate to say someone's a locker isn't. Well, Joe, thank you so much for taking the time to be here. I'll see you in a few weeks when I'm back on Gutfeld. I look forward to it.

Say hi to everyone over there. And I'm very proud of myself personally for becoming friends with Tyrus, which was not easy to do. Oh, he's a gentle giant. It was great talking to him. Thank you. Take care, Joe. Let's head over to the guys, Dan and Patrick. I'm curious to hear your thoughts as to, you know, where this whole Iran situation is going. Because one of the things I was on a podcast recently, and the point I made, which hadn't heard other people make, what I'm very concerned about, is if the Iranian people take Trump at his word and they take to the streets and they try to have enough. uprising and then Trump or someone else is like, all right, good luck guys, and we cut and run. And all those people have slaughtered just as thousands of them had very recently been slaughtered by the regime.

So that is a big concern of mine. And, you know, I'm worried just in general about the whole situation. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Patrick? Yeah. So I completely agree with you. I think that one of the things that made Biden really look terrible was his Afghanistan withdrawal. And just everything that happened with that.

I don't think Trump, I think Trump knows not to do something like that. So I'm hoping that, you know, he's not going to just lead sheep to the slaughter. But you just never know with these situations because there's so many variables that we, you just don't know how to predict. You can't predict. And the other thing is if it takes too long, it's bad. If it takes too, if it's too short, it's bad. So, I mean, the just right porridge is going to be tough for him. So Will's gone.

He's on vacation this week. I thought it would be a good opportunity to talk about what it's pulled the curtain back a little bit and talk a little bit about what it's like working with for him. Patrick, what do you think is your favorite thing about working with Will Kane? And what do you like the least? I'll start with the least. So I don't like when he thinks that he needs to quit nicotine because he's an addict. But if he ever gets off of it, he gets very cranky.

Great answer. Look out. Very crazy. The best thing is, We're just so sympathico. Like, we just kind of, like, jive really well, and we just work really well together, and it's, like, I couldn't even imagine working for somebody else.

So I just really enjoy, you know, just being on the same page a lot with him about, not sports. Sports, we don't get along. We do not jive at all. Trash sports sakes, but, yeah. If you're telling me you can't imagine working for somebody, else, that's just you confessing to being unemployable.

That's what I was thinking. I was like, wait, you can't go anywhere else? Can't even imagine it? I have no idea what I'm going to do. I have imagined it. And I'm like, I don't really want to, I don't know. I can imagine.

That's very different. Yeah, it's much different. No, I, speaking of sports. Dan, I'm curious, your favorite things about working with Will and least favorite. Well, so the best thing is I came from the sports world too, just as Will did, into the news and politics world.

Yeah. So we kind of think that same way. Like sports talk is not that different from news talk. It's different topics, but it's the same way you look at it. So that we work really well together. The one thing is he pins me as a as like a very liberal lefty, which I am not. I'm pretty middle down the road. I hang out with a lot of libs, but...

Don't let them fool you. I have some takes that might not be agreeable here in this venue. but that's all right oh yeah such as what no i'm not even going there not even going there give us a like a little like a little taste just a little taste not even yeah just something said about the the ice shooting you know we'll go there oh okay i think i think that's fair i think a lot of people were upset by it yeah i was just trying to say anything to be giddy over i was just saying that like nothing something should be done is my point not that we should be blaming the victim of a violent crime but you

You know, I think there should be consequences so it doesn't happen again. I mean, and make these officers think twice about what they're doing. Oh, open boarders and amnesty. Got it. Patrick, I want to, we all heard you say it. Patrick, I'm curious to you, what is the most surprising thing about Will that most people don't know? Wow, what? He loves to wear vans. That was surprising to me.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. He wears vans. Oh, that is surprising. Right? You think he wears cowboy boots all the time. time, but no. Slip on vans.

Yeah. Yeah. He's just like a surfer kind of vans kind of guy on the side. Very low key. Huh. Yeah. And that's because like, so. That is kind of surprising.

Throughout his whole life, he's all, him and his family have, have vacation in Hawaii. And so I imagine it has something to do with it like that. So it's like he's a country guy because he's from Sherman, Texas, just north of Dallas. But then every, every summer for like two weeks, they go to Hawaii. And so he has like this. weird, it's like a weird dichotomy where it's like Texas but also laid back Hawaiian. There's Fox News Will and then there's like laid back Hawaiian Will. Am I remembering correctly that it was James Tala Rico who went on the show and then later lied about what Will had said about him in public?

Yeah, he came on the show and Will had to hit a commercial break just as you do in TV. And so Will had to kind of cut him off a little prematurely. They're having a long conversation, longer for the most TV conversations anyways. So James Talariko afterwards went online and said, he cut me off because I was winning this argument, which was not true. Right. That's what it was. And I remember Will, I talked to him, I'm sure I'm not revealing telling tales outside of school, that Will was kind of taken aback by it. Because from his perspective, and in my experience with him, let's have a vigorous discussion.

And you could disagree with me if you want. and he's never censored anything that I disagree with him about. So I think that to go public with that is, you know, we saw Mark Rayn Mullen calling Rand Paul a snake. I think that's snake behavior because it's very easy to be like, hey, in the moment, the cameras go off. You could have that argument in person, but he chose to leave and kind of pick his battle and have his attempt at a viral moment. I think he's a very duplicitous figure, to put it mildly. I was very much rooting for Jasmine Crockett, who I think would actually do more for Texas than Tala Rico, and who would have been super entertaining.

People don't know. Jasmine Crockett comes from money and is highly educated, and her entire politics is entirely conformative. It's exactly like watching WWE. She's playing a character. There's plenty of footage of her being completely nor. It's totally a character. People buy into it just like when there's a bad guy wrestler, you really kind of hate them.

And compared to him, I think he is much more sinister, Tala Rico, much more dangerous. And those are the kind of people where they have that mask can really do harm. I think in many ways he's a more duplicitous Gavin Newsom. Yeah. And we would love to have Jasmine Crockin on the show. Will is just dying to. He has a Jasmine Crockett for a Senate shirt. So he was a big fan.

I suggested Tala Rico, but I don't think he wants to go down that road anymore. I don't blame him. Do you? No, not at all. You already canceled once. If you go on some, oh yeah, if you go on someone's show and instead of having someone who identifies with, you know, the other political ideology and you're allowed to put forth your views, even if you're cut off to later be welcome back, it's just like, you know, what kind of person are you? So I think we all know the answer to that, to be honest. Not to change something real quick.

I want to go back to this New York conversation you had beforehand because I live in New York. Sure. You lived in New York for a long time. Okay. My wife and I were going to move into the city. And we decided to move right outside in Westchester County. And I think it was the best decision. Okay.

Because I'm in my 30. I mean, it was in my early 30s at the time. And I think it was the best decision. My wife had lived there in New York City for a long time. And she said the same thing that slowly and slowly, slowly got worse up until, you know, COVID-2020. And then we decided to move. move outside. And I think we made such a good decision, especially

now. Yeah. Every time I go back, I am filled with a combination of rage and disgust. Because this is a city I loved so much. And one of the things with COVID that really, I talk about this all the time, that really got to me is all the places I loved,

you know, see, since I was a kid, they couldn't survive COVID. I remember vividly in 2008 when all the banks were bailed out. But these mom and pop stores where some immigrant from 1910 from Italy set up a sausage store or there's an ice cream store or a pizzeria, they couldn't handle months of paying a crazy rent

and no income, and nothing was done for them. And it just, for people who, I think, underestimate to what extent the Democratic Party as well as the Republican Party is governed by corporate hacks who answer to big business, and despite their rhetoric, they do not care at all, especially the Democrats on this issue,

about small and medium-sized businesses because they're not getting donations from them and New York is bearing that out. Mamdani cares much more about poor people, the poorest of the poor, especially prisoners. God help us if he lets people out like he's talked about.

I get worried walking every day. You know, those special businesses that make any city unique and give it a sense of character and that are the backbones of any kind of given community. And it's interesting because I've voted Democrat in the past and this is really turning me off to what this party is.

Like this is, and friends of mine who are, you know, a little further left are like, yeah, let's go. You know, Mom Donnie for mayor and all this stuff. And I'm just like, I don't understand what you guys see in this and what you guys want to get out of this. Because to me, it's just not the way. And I'm here day to day. And I just think it's the wrong direction to go. Do they have an answer for you? They just think they want to help the little guy.

That's like the Democratic Party thing. They want to help the homeless. They want to help the downtrodden. And it's just like they forget about just everybody else living their life and just trying to get by and survive. I mean, I get it. It sounds nice, but, you know. They also forget that poor people are the most likely to be victims of crime. Sure.

Especially violent crime. Least likely have access to police resources or investigations to kind of be made whole. And for what I was mentioning earlier, there is this kind of movement. I forget who in his cabinet was talking about decarceration, meaning we've got too many people in jail, let's live around the street. And we're seeing what's happening in New York, where to get to jail, you really have to be over the line.

So that is my biggest concern. And the people who are going to get hurt the most are females, who are much more likely to be the victims of certain kinds of assault. And this was New York, like in the late 60s, early 70s under James Lindsay. And God help them if that kind of, old New York comes back. It's something I worry about constantly. Yeah, same. I mean, my wife works

down in Soho every day, and I get worried that she takes a subway every day, you know? Because one of the things I think people forget is, like, how New York used to be. Like, in New York in the 60s, and into the 80s. Was it bad in the 80s? Who was the guy who shot the guys on the train? Yeah.

You remember that guy? Oh, God. I'm blanking in his name. Yes. Brainfront. I'm having a Biden moment. I'm sorry. Sorry. Well, I don't remember either. So, but you know, very famous vigilante. But like, you had to have that vigilante justice because of just how bad things were. And, you know, that's why I was concerned about the rising crime now is like we're getting back to that kind of that era, the major cities. So I hope I did a good job filling in Will Kane's vans. I'm not wearing vans at the moment. Although I do have someone at home. Everyone at home will will be back now. week. Thank you so much for joining me on Michael Malice. You can find me on X at Michael Malice. I'm going to spend a day enjoying the lovely city of Dallas. And for the rest of you out there, hope you have a great and wonderful, healthy weekend.

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