Will Cain Country - Michigan Primary: The Radical Left Just Won Its Biggest Victory Yet (ft. David Marcus & Andy Ogles)

Episode Date: August 5, 2026

Abdul El-Sayed, a progressive Democrat, has clinched his party’s nomination in Michigan. Republicans couldn’t have asked for a better present. FOX News Columnist David Marcus and Congressman Andy Ogles (R-TN) join Will to explain the implications of El-Sayed’s victory, as well as weigh in on an Obama-appointed judge trying to stop Haitian migrants from returning to their country and whether the GOP is currently doing enough to address affordability concerns.Plus, Will, David, and The Crew take a look at the 6’3 transgender athlete from France who could be the WNBA’s next big star, and one Yale law professor’s proposal to “weight” the votes of young people.Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Abdul O'Said wins his nomination for Senate in Michigan. Can you impeach? An Obama-era-appointed judge who puts an injunction on deporting temporary protected status Haitians. Plus, Rosie's back at the view. All that with David Marcus and Congressman Andy Ogles. In Country, streaming live at the Will Cain Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page. Here for you, follow Spotify or Apple. Abdul El-Said has won his Democratic nomination for Senator from Michigan.

That coming up in just a moment with Fox News columnist David Marcus and Congressman Andy Ogles. But looking through X, I see the following. Post. By a David Marcus. They say there are people who have no interior monologue. I cannot believe this. They also say there are people who can't summon an image of an apple in their mind, which I can't. So I guess it takes all kinds.

Tinfoil Pat, Two at A's Dan and Fox News columnist David Marcus with us here now on Will King Country. You can't picture an apple. No. It's just black. It's so weird to me. I don't know that this was an image of an apple or you see nothing but darkness. I see nothing but darkness. It's wild.

That's wild. And like the concept of the apple as sort of a word or like I know what an apple is or I'll hear the word apple. But like, yeah, there's no mental. But if you tried to draw it from memory. I mean, I can't draw. But yeah, I mean, I could maybe draw the Apple logo. I would imagine this is probably not a good condition for people. who are visual artists to have, although I don't know.

Like, I know they say it's common with writers and some other people, but yeah, I just, uh, there's nothing there. Could you, could you describe it in words, as you mentioned? You're a writer. Yes. I've fancied myself from time to time as a writer. And in order to do so, you have to describe things. And as you describe things, you don't see them.

No. If you were writing, if you were writing the description of an apple, you You wouldn't see the apple in your head? No, I would know things about the apple. I would know that the apple is red or green. I would know that it has a stem. I would know it's approximate size. I would know it's approximate weight.

I would know what it tastes like. I would know what it looks like if you see. All of this stuff that I've spent 51 years gathering of this is what an apple is, that that's all there. There's just no visual picture of it. Patrick also suffers from what is described as Athanasia. Affantasia is a condition as described in this graphic image if you're watching on FoxNews.com, Fox1, Fox Facebook, Fox YouTube. If you're listening on Spotify or Apple, it has a one-to-five scale. At the five marker, there's absolutely nothing.

I only know things about the Apple. I cannot picture. There is no image. As you move down the scale, at number four, you have dim and vague ideas of an Apple. you can see the outline, perhaps, of an apple. Three, moderately realistic, a cartoonish-looking apple. Two, realistic and reasonably vivid. One, perfect.

Realistic. As real as real as seeing it. Patrick, what do you see on the one-to-five scale affintasia? Well, we're having some audio issues with Patrick. That's a shame. Fingers. One, two. No, can't hear you, Patrick.

That's just a shame. One or two, Patrick. All right. Three? Oh, five. Five. Five. He's got nothing. Oh, so he also has nothing. Right. Yeah, yeah. Now, here's a weird thing, too, Will. I definitely dream visually. I mean, I wake up and I remember images from my dreams. So that happens, but I can't, I can't stop. Yeah, I don't get this. This, the other day we had a debate about whether or not it should be illegal to marry your second and third cousins. And I, I start to hear white noise. It's really hard for me in this conversation. My, brain just starts swimming and there's algorithms going on. And I can't remember what is a second cousin. What is the third cousin? I can't deal with that. This is really hard for me as well. I think I'm a four or five. I mean, I think I can absolutely perfectly envision an apple or any given thing. A beat scene from my vacation a week ago. The grains of sand, the place of the sun at the sunset, the waves crashing. I can I can picture it all. But I don't even understand the words coming out of your mouth. you say you can't. As well, I don't even understand when people say, as you mentioned in your post, they don't have an inner monologue. What does that mean? You don't have thoughts. You don't run

some things through your mind before you say it. I don't understand these conditions. I think it means that you have thoughts, but they're not in the form of a spoken voice, which I also, I can't imagine that. All I have is the rattling of my own voice constantly in my head, so I'm with you on that. But I think that that's what people describe. So I don't know. Tell us, jump into the comments section. It takes all kinds, well. Takes all kinds.

I guess. I don't know. I guess. Let us know, are you a one to five scale here? Do you suffer like David Marcus in the muted 10-4-pack? I can't even summon the Eagles logo. I can't even summon the Eagles logo. Are you, are you really?

Is that for real? You're a huge Eagles fan. You can't, in your mind, see that horrific bird slanted. beautiful attacking, but yeah, no, no. Nor can I see that communist star you guys have on the side of yours. Communist star. Are all stars communists? We've got 50 of them on the American flag.

No, just yours. There's one lone star in the Texas flag. I know. How many stars? There's three stars in the Tennessee flag, right? Congressman Ogles, there's three stars at the center of the circle for Tennessee. Three totally amazing stars on the Tennessee flag. And where was the first star put on the first American flag?

and flag, well, what city? I mean, I feel like I don't know, but I know because you're asking me. I assume it's Philadelphia. Yes. Okay. Communist. You just got done calling that communist. We are joined by Congressman Andy Ogles of Tennessee.

Just apropos of nothing, but the fact that we're all a bunch of dumbasses here. Congressman, do you have affintasia? Can you picture the apple? I can't picture the apple, and I really can't comprehend that someone couldn't picture an apple. So it's such a fundamental part of our lives, quite frankly. But, you know, sucks to be someone who something to that, I guess. I don't know the difference. So I'll take your work.

David, if I gave you a set of watercolors and I gave you a set of skills, because I'm going to admit to you, I couldn't paint anything. I have no artistic skills. But I would know what I want to try to paint. In my head, I could picture the apple, and then I could go about it in a horrific way. You'd see the image ago, well, Will can't picture an apple at all. But that's about a matter of skill, not a vision. Right.

Well, yeah, but again, Will, like, I don't need to be able to see. Do you need to see a picture of an apple to describe to me what an apple is? Of course you don't. And you don't need to close your eyes and picture it in your head either. You just know. I don't understand at all. It's connected. The vision in my head and my description of it are connected.

All right. Like there's no separation. I'm happy for you, man. It's just words in your head. You see the world like a book. You only see text. More or less. You don't see pictures.

Wow. Wow. That's crazy. I couldn't draw an apple, but I can picture an apple. Like, I'm totally with you. I mean, I drew an apple. It'd probably look like a giraffe. It'd be a red giraffe, but at least,

but it wouldn't look like an apple. But I can certainly picture one in my head. Oh, my goodness. Yes. Are you done diagnosing me now, Will? I mean, I don't know. I got no answer. No, no.

I'm just getting warmed up because now I'm thinking about the inner monologue thing and people that don't have inner monologue. And I said this earlier, people that don't have an inner monologue. That doesn't make sense to me either. And not to be mean, but does that just mean stupid? Like, you don't talk to yourself or think to yourself ahead of time? Like the words coming out of your mouth, you don't run them through and then go, no, that's not a good idea. Congressman Ogles, do you do that?

You have some things you say everyone from all that people question, what not. You've run them through the head before you said. There's a difference between an inner monologue and not having a filter. I do not have a filter. And I admit it gets me in trouble sometimes. But, you know, even sometimes when I'm saying it, I'm thinking to myself, I probably shouldn't say this. And I'm like, ah, whatever. Right.

Right. Right. Right. You went through that inner monologue, right. Yeah. Which you chose the path. You didn't just bumple down the path. Yeah, I don't know what your condition is.

It's Afantasia, apparently, but I don't think it takes all kinds. I think you're suffering from something that can be remedied somehow. Maybe hallucinogenics. That's big these days. Maybe some mushrooms. No, I can, I can. It's been 30 years, but I can report to you that that did not have that effect. Well, oh, okay.

we've tried. Okay, I didn't know. Okay, we've tried. Might I suggest Ibegain? We're big on Ibegain here. I need this. Well, like, you realize my job is to write words, right? That's my job. That's the whole thing what I do is I write words down. So I don't understand why this is a problem for me. I think it's putting you behind the eight ball and choosing the right words. You know what? Let's talk about your writing. And let's start with Congressman Ogles on this. So, So Abdul El-Sayed has won. He is won the Democratic primary for Senator in Michigan. It was close, much closer than people thought it was going to be. But what's your major takeaway right now? You know what? How about this? Are you excited? I think, I don't know if it's David or Samoa said,

this is what Republicans wanted. They wanted El-Said to represent Democrats. Yeah, I mean, I think what it represents is you have a Democratic Party that is absent of real leadership. It is listless. It is drifting. And because of that, you have folks like Saeed, like Mom Donnie, who quite frankly should not be in office. But what you hope happens is there's a backlash. So you take the city of New York that under Mom Donny's lack of leadership, under his disastrous reign that he will have, that they come back to center, that they come back to rational.

But, you know, this also creates an opportunity for Republicans, that we've got to message, that we have to own the moment, that we have to have a clear vision for America and the midterms, which is, quite frankly, gasoline and ground beef, because this election is about affordability. And if we're not talking to people about that, then these kind of folks, these wackadoodles, are going to continue to win. Okay, I want to come back to gasoline and ground brief.

that's pretty interesting. Here's the headline. It's not you, David. It's somebody else at Paul Steinhauser and Alex Miller at Fox News.com. Republicans get the Democrat they wanted as socialist Abdul El-Said wins Michigan Senate primary. He's now scheduled to go up against Republican Mike Rogers in the general election. So I think the argument is Republicans would want El-Saheat on two fronts. One, and I'll speak for myself on this side of it. This is why I like it. I think it is in some, I think El Saeed did play a game of hiding the ball of exactly how socialist he is. He rejected the label. But he did embrace it more than others.

Like simply by virtue of standing next to Hassan Piker on multiple occasions, you've got to see the truth about El Cahed as well. And I appreciate, like I've said this on the show. I actually appreciate Hassan Piker's presence in giving voice to what I think is actually the inner monologue of a lot of Democrats. And so that's why in some ways I'm like, okay, the difference between Chris Murphy and El Saeed is not one of degree. It's one of honesty. So in that way, I appreciate El Saeed. There are others that want this on the Republican side because they think, well, there's no chance in hell he's going to beat Mike Rogers in a general election. Look, I won't say there's no chance that he can beat Mike Rogers in a general election.

But last night is a huge warning sign for Democrats. I mean, I was on the ground in Michigan until about seven days ago, whatever, and it was absolutely clear to me that this was a tight race. That's what I reported. That's what I wrote. I got back on the ground in West Virginia, and suddenly every poll had El Coyette up by 15, 12, 17. I was questioning my own methodology, Will. Like, I mean, I didn't know what I was going to say on your show today because you guys have known and covered what I was saying. So it turns out that I was right.

And this is a real warning for Democrats because those polls are also the ones that showed, oh, Rogers only has a three-point leadover El-Sayed, right? It's also a problem because I think Haley Stevens could have won. And let me explain what I mean by that. Political campaigns are stories, first and foremost, and they have arcs. The story arc at the last week of that campaign should have been searching Haley Stevens, getting Whitmer's endorsement, getting Clyburn's endorsement, consolidating the black vote, odds all over TV,

and this is going to be a close race. Instead, the story that the national media told is this is over, you don't even have to pay any attention to this anymore. And I think Stevens would have had a chance. And it's a real problem for our industry. And, you know, I'll put it this way. I'll put as simply as I can. You want to cover politics in the United States of America. You need one of these.

You need one of these. And you need one of these. What you don't need is a calculator and an algorithm. And, again, I think the Democrats are in real trouble. On the ground, socialism is not selling in Michigan. You have it from me. Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Cain Country. David held up a notepad, a pen, and his brain that can't picture an apple.

That's how he said you should cover politics. But what you're saying is polling is crap. And I'm sure a lot of people are watching right now who go, yeah, of course. I think the general public has come to appreciate and expect that. It's hard because we like it in the same way we like a sports game. We want to know what the score is along the way. And so everybody's attracted to them. But you're right.

These polls were so far off. I mean, they did have El-Said winning, but they had him winning by a huge margin. He wins, but by a very slight margin. And what you're pointing out is the polling then determines the outcome in some ways. It can demoralize and it can cause enthusiasm. Congressman Olegs, you're in this all the time. And I mean, at the congressional level, I don't know how reliable, you know, more localized polling is. I don't even, more or less, I don't know.

But it's total crap. It seems to be total crap. But yet I'm sure you guys pay people to do so. Yeah, I mean, obviously, one of the things that if I'm looking at a poll, I'm not necessarily looking at the numbers as being entirely accurate, but I'm looking for trend lines. And so if you have the similar sample size and you get a baseline with their first poll, and as you're tracking along, you start to see a shift one way or the other, again, I'm less focused

on whether you're at 40% or 43%. I'm looking at that spread. I'm looking how people are answering the questions. And there's poles different in quality in depth as well. So, you know, if you have a crap pollster, you're going to have a crap, you know, a pole. And so, again, having a reputable poll by pollsters that have. of a reputation. But at the end of the day, to go back to Trump, you know, the, no poll was

showing that Trump would win his first go around, right? He was, he was this dark horse, he was kind of this flashy moment, right? It was a headline, and then he surged, and he surged, and he continued to surge. You look at this last time where he ends up winning all of the battleground states. He, you know, sweeps the electoral college. People are tired, one, going back to your previous comment, people are tired of the nonsense. And quite frankly, polls are not the gospel. I think they can be cues as to how you're engaging.

But at the end of the day, just go do the job. Get on the ground, travel to your district, travel the state, go talk to voters. And I think that's what happens a lot with politicians is they get trapped in the bubble that is DC. Whereas I'm a grassroots guy. I want to be in Obion County. I want to be in Dyer County.

I want to be at the fish fry and at the ice cream supper, because that's where you hear from Americans. what okay one more i i have only a limited appetite for like this like uh i like talking about ideas i don't like talking about the horse race aspects of politics as much but yeah why david are they so bad why are polls so bad now listen we have heard when it came to trump because people were reluctant to say out loud what they actually wanted to do but that doesn't explain el saeed versus Haley Stevens.

So is it, I mean, the deal with the poll is a little bit like a legal case. What kind of question are you asking? Because whatever question you ask manipulates whatever answer you get at, you give. You know what I mean? So is it like that? Why the polls are so bad? They're asking the wrong people. Because I think it's, to the point of the Congress.

That's what I'm saying. But to the point of the Congress is saying crap pollster, crap poll, all of them, man, all of them had El Saeed way over Stevens. I think it was one. I saw like 12 polls. Only one had Stevens winning. The rest had El Saeed winning and winning by 15 or more points. Yeah.

And the one that had Stevens winning had her winning by five, right? So fairly convincingly. The only, this can't be an accident and it can't be a coincidence. It's seven poles that were all, you know, as off as the Grand Canyon, right? Something went wrong here. I think the main culprit is probably who they assumed was going to come out to vote. They clearly must have oversampled the sort of college-educated white voters. They probably oversampled the immigrant voters, and they probably undersampled a lot of the

working-class voters and black voters who would eventually come out for Haley. I don't know how you fix it, because there's the other underlying problems, which is that the whole nature of the electorate is shifting, right? Like, people aren't as much in their boxes as they sort of used to be. So their votes are a little harder to predict. I think the answer here is not to try to fix the polling industry, although I'm sure they'll want to do that. I think the answer is for us, the people who are telling the story of politics in America,

whether it be you and I will as journalists or congressman, you as a politician. Like you said, Will, tell the story. Don't give me a string of numbers. Tell me what that guy at the bar told you. Tell me what you heard at the diner or the fish fry or the ice cream social. Right. Right. Right. Okay. Stream of conscience thoughts here. So, Congressman, you brought up ground beef and gasoline. So I'm going to segue into that in just a second. One more thing on El Saeed that I find really interesting. So Haley Stevens did well with the working class and the black voters. El Saeed did well with the immigrant class and white educated voters. Okay, that's interesting. Because El Saeed and the socialist movement says that they're there for the working class, and he doesn't win the working class, right? That's, that's, that's interesting in terms of

the story you're talking about, David. But let me add another detail. And I'm not going to be able to quote or attribute this poll because it literally went across my algorithm scrolling this morning, which is super dangerous, Will. Why are you even doing that? But it did, Peter St. Ange, who I like, who's an economist, who I read a lot, he had posted and commented to this poll. And it showed acceptance of socialism and communism by racial acceptance. And it said, it showed the least accepting of social and communism was white. The next least was Asian. The third, you know, now we're moving into the positive territory, was Latino. And then the most accepting of socialism and communism was black. So I saw that, but then I also saw El Saeed losing the black

vote and losing the working class. And I just think that's interesting in the story here of what's actually going on. I want to hear from both of you on that. First, the congressman. Oh, wow. I mean, Without looking at the cross tabs, I mean, let's go back to Mom Dani. You know, one of the things he had is he was an articulate, he was a good-looking guy. He connected with the voter. I think the voter felt like that he was talking to them. What is Mom Dani? Is he a seven?

Am I missing something? He's a pleasant-looking guy. Everybody says this good-looking guy thing. Like, what is Mondani? Is he not a 10? What are we doing here? Well, he was good enough. He won, right?

But same thing with El-Sai, right? Like, you know, he presents well, he's articulate, a bit arrogant, right? Like he said, if you can't have any name, then his name shouldn't be in your mouth, whatever it was. It's like, you're, what a prick. But anyway, but that being said, is like he talked to the voter and that he, some level, connected with them. And I think that's what, you know, Donald Trump did in that first election.

You know, I was one of the big box stores, and I had on a shirt that this guy asked, you know, what the logo meant. And I said, well, I work in politics. And he just, without any prompting, said, you know what, I like Donald Trump. because he says what I'm thinking. And so if you're a politician, if you're running for office, and you can say the thing that the electorate is thinking, that worries them, that keeps them up at night,

or what they're talking about at the kitchen table, you're connecting with them. And I think that's what those two candidates, despite them being wackadoodle leftists, did in their respective elections. Congressman, do you find that you are saying things that connect, like you just said, obviously your answer is going to be yes to me?

with the people that you're talking to with the fish fry. Because you are, okay, I'm going to be honest. You are saying things that I hear, okay, out there in the world. When you talk about, you know, the Muslim influence and impact on American culture, the impacts of mass migration. And you have said them in some inflammatory ways that have gotten the political class and the media class very, very upset with you. Are people, I love an, I know you're going to tell me. that that's what you're hearing in your district. Do you hear a lot of people mad at the way you're

saying this stuff? Not at all. In fact, the response is we appreciate you just telling us how you feel. I mean, I'll have people that say, look, I don't always agree with you, but I appreciate the fact that you speak your mind. And so I think that's what people are wanting now. And I think that's the standard that President Trump has set. Like, are there times when he could say things a little more diplomatically? Sure. things that are there times when I could say things a little more diplomatically? Absolutely. But there are also times where I am intentionally inflammatory so people pay attention and it creates this chaos or this controversy. But you know what? They're talking about the issue at hand like the migrant invasion that we're seeing in Europe where you have 12% of the population

committing 50% of sex crimes. And if we don't wake up, that's going to be New York. It's going to be Chicago and it's going to be Nashville. And I'm not going to back down from those talking points because I have the data to prove it. I saw John Stewart's call, John Stewart called you a whack-a-doodle or something like that. He also mispronounced your name. Did you see it? He called you Eagles. Oh, that's okay.

I get called all sorts of names. It's fine. This is your chance to give me the viral clip. What do you say to John Stewart, Congressman? Hey, I appreciate the shout-out. Let's go have a beer. I mean, what am I going to do? Let that guy get me upset.

No, of course not. Look, we can disagree. We can go have a cup of coffee. We can go have a cup of coffee. We can go have a beer, whatever. But that's a great thing about this country. Look, John Quincy Adams love the House of Representatives because it's where you argue and you debate and you do the people's work.

And I'm not going to back down from that job. And I'm going to be loud. I'm going to be vocal because, you know what? People need to pay attention. And the reason why people like this El Saeed and Mom Dani get elected is because people who really should care, stay at home and they don't vote. Okay, let's put a button on that I'll say, David, how do you rationalize what I laid out for you a moment ago? A movement purported to be for and of the working class is losing the working class.

And black voters in at least some polls show an openness to socialism or communism, at least more so than other ethnic groups, and yet reject El-Said. And by the way, I think they rejected Mamdani, New York, too. Yes. I don't remember more or less. And a bunch of those sort of like commie corridor congressional candidates as well. I came out very hard for Richie Torres, right, in the Bronx. Yeah. Listen, you know, I was going through my notes right in my column this morning.

And one of the things I put in the column was, and I realized I hadn't really put it together before, but inside Detroit, every El-Sayed voter that I spoke to was an activist of some form, right? There was a pro-choice button on their bag. or they told me that they volunteered to Canvas, or they told me they're a phone banker, right? This cuts both ways. In a congressional primary or a New York City mayoral primary, those are exactly what you need.

And if you get those guys out, bringing your harvested votes in, you're going to win. I wrote last week that this is a lot harder in a Senate race, and I knew that this was going to be a problem because the congressman will know. Like, there's just not that many people to knock on the doors. It is just a much easier job. I saw people filming like wealthy 20-something kids from New York flying to Detroit to knock on the doors,

just as happened with Mamdani, right? And that's all well and good, again, in a small enough pool. You get to a state-to-size of Michigan, and the broader narrative has a much bigger role to play than that, which includes TV ads. All right, Congressman, speaking of things that you posted, this is, you're going to, you, Yesterday, August 4th, we all just saw, as you brought up a minute ago, tens of thousands of third world African migrants pour into Spain. We cannot allow that to happen to our country again. That's why I'm trying to impeach the Obama appointed judge weaponizing the bench to protect invaders who came through unconstitutional TPS.

There you're referring to the temporary protected status. The Trump administration has taken away from Haitian migrants. David's covered that in Springfield, Ohio. but the injunction issued by a district judge, a federal district judge has put a halt to that. We don't have to get into legal arguments. I think they're pretty easy. I mean, just temporary meet temporary. That's the bottom line.

By the way, while we're there, what's going on with Mike DeWine? Why would a Republican governor of Ohio be supporting keeping the Haitians here? There's no good legal argument. There's no good cultural argument. I don't understand the argument or the political argument for Mike DeWine and other Republicans to be on this side. Yeah, I mean, when you look at the recent court case, Mullins v. Doe, you know, the president can end temporary TPS, temporary protected status of whether Somalis or Haitians or whomever. Once it's over, it's over, and they should be able to be deported. And so you have this judge Burroughs who has a lengthy history of being an activist judge.

judge versus just an impartial judge. And our founding fathers warned us of that, that you know, an all too powerful judiciary becomes a legislative branch. And so, rightfully so, I've issued these or presented articles of impeachment against her to, again, to bring a fine point to this issue of we have a judge that's crossed the line is being an activist in violation of the Supreme Court's ruling. Do you think, and, you know, I've made no secret of the fact that I appreciate a lot of the things the Congressman has pushed when it comes to all sorts of immigration issues, including remigration and other policies. But I have asked you in the past, like, do these have any realistic chance of getting passed? And we've talked

about the value of the Overton window, which I think you kind of alluded to a moment ago when you said you say some things, you know, in order to force the conversation. Is this one of those things, Congressman? Because you would need this to pass through the House Judiciary Committee. Then would need the full House, which will only take a simple majority. This is what it takes to impeach a federal judge. And then you need, and this is the big one, two-thirds of the Senate to pass it. Well, you know, we have a job to do. And whether or not it can pass out of judiciary or out or off the House floor, or never mind the Senate, they can't even pass the Safe America Act. You know, this is a case where this judge needs to be called.

out and when you issue those articles of impeachment, you're laying out the case as to why. And part of that is educating the public. So if there are other articles of impeachment that I've put forward that Brandon Gill has put forward, this is a clear case that I think should move forward. And let's litigate it. Let's have this conversation about this is our country. We get to decide who comes in and we get to decide who has to leave. And if your TPS has expired, you have to leave if the president says so.

and the Supreme Court has upheld that fact. Yeah. Ground beef and gasoline. Can I see this debate? One quick point about Springfield. Because it was one of the most infuriating stories I ever covered in my life. I got there right around the time. You might remember the famous Scott Pelly interview with the local business owner.

And he said, oh, the Haitians, they come on time. They don't do drugs. They like to do overtime, right? Remember that? with no pushback from Pelly whatsoever. I found at the time that was a little pat, so I looked it up. That was word for word out of a Springfield Chamber of Commerce press release from a year earlier. And it was damn insulting to American workers.

When I went and I talked to those native people of Springfield, there were two things they complained about. Number one was housing, right? Their kids couldn't start families in the houses because they were all being rented by 27 Haitians at a time. And the second thing I heard was the DMV. And people in New York City, they don't think that they're like, well, once a year the DMV is a household. No, man. These people have three cars. These people have tried.

These people, like, and it takes them a day at the DMV. And the progressives don't care about that. They think that's whining, right? So it's an infuriating story. And the congressman is absolutely right. These people have to go. Is the DMV good anywhere? Is there any, like I lived in New York, David, and it was, that was a huge cortisol issue.

for me. If I had to deal with the New York DMV on anything, that was high-level stress. We're talking things that take, honestly, if I'm being honest, not just months, years of my life. I'll get to that. The DMV and West Virginia is a year. But then I moved back home to Texas, dude, and it was the same thing. Like, when can I get a Texas license? Well, your first available appointment is five months from now. You know, it's insane.

You're telling me West Virginia's got nailed down. But I'll just say, like, what they were saying to me wasn't like just that the DMV is bad. They were telling me two years ago it was fine, right? Because let's remember that. These 20,000, however many it was, Haitians in a town of 50,000, they were brought there in two years. Two years. It's madness. And it's been lied about so much.

And nobody has the guts to just go talk to the people who actually live there because they're worried about being called racist. Let's take a quick break. But we'll be right back on Will Kane Country. So ground beef and gasoline. So this debate has come up. You know, and I've talked about this the last couple of days. It's on the right, Congressman. And the implication, I believe.

So affordability is, we have to be able to have this conversation on a couple of levels. Yeah, we have high prices, largely attributable to COVID-era pricing and stimulus packages and so forth. And those prices come in and they don't come back down. Inflation can come down, but that just means the rate of the rising price stops going up as much. But the price is still there. It's up, right? Now, you want wages to keep up to deal with inflation. And I've seen mixed stats on where wages have gone over the last five years as well. But you can talk about that. You can talk about affordability. It's obviously an issue that impacts Americans left and right and voters. The left comes in and sells a really easy, a really easy solution,

you know, or, I mean, at least in words, I'm going to open a city grocery store that's 30% less. I'm going to make free buses. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do all this market manipulation. But what do Republicans offer on this? Because I'm seeing more and more people on the right say, quit thinking about Iran, think about gasoline or ground beef. But what are you offering? What do you offer on that topic? Yeah, I mean, if you look, the president's comments, I believe it was yesterday. He was talking about he projects that gasoline prices are going to start coming down. Look, markets like stability. And so whether it's oil, gas, corn, whatever, markets like stability. And I think what the markets need, quite frankly, right now is to know that

there's a path forward with Iran. And so whether we like it or not, that instability in the market, Regardless of where oil is, it has an impact on consumer sentiment and ultimately the price of goods. And so I think as, and again, part of it is just communicating a knowledge, look, if you have an issue and I'm willing to sit down and talk to you on that issue and I reassure you that I'm working on that issue and I have a plan forward, that's what people want to hear. But you can't ignore what people are talking about at the kitchen table, at the water cooler,

and what they're worried about is the crime. Am I going to be able to pay my mortgage next month? Am I going to be able to, how much is going to cost to fill up my car? And so, look, the president made the right choice with Iran. We can litigate that and the good, the pros, the cons, etc. But that being said, we're there. We need to finish it. And when I say finish it, I don't mean surrender.

I mean, finish it. And then get back to America first and keeping American safe. But again. I think that's, again, you, you, I think you are our, this is my informal polling as well. you are articulating a point of view that I hear as well. I think a lot of people are willing to consider, was this a mistake in the first place? But that debate is behind us in some way.

That's right. Now I think when I talk to people, it's like, what do you do? And it's finished the job. And I think that's what people say, finish the job. However, I'm not sure they fully appreciate the commitment level that would require. And that might require boots on the ground.

And I'm not sure that's exactly what they're willing I'm not sure that's the cost they're willing to pay. Yeah, I would say hands down over and over again, Trump supporters, love the president. Hey, we trust the president. Maybe we don't fully understand, but we don't want boots on the ground. That's the one caveat. What I'll say is when you look at when Iran began, the conflict of Iran, you know, the president pulled back a little bit to allow diplomacy, quote unquote, to work.

But let's be honest. The Iranian regime has never upheld a single agreement that they've, you know, been a part of. They've never been an honest broker. But the president did the right thing. You know, he listened to our allies in Europe to allow diplomacy, quote unquote, to work. And in one of the negotiation periods, they literally, like the day the negotiation started, Iran shot off more missiles. Like, I mean, so now my message to the president, or when I'm talking to the administration or to the president himself is like, let's get it done. The American people want to know that we're going to finish this.

We're going to make sure that Iran never has a nuclear weapon. And that, quite frankly, they're going to stop exporting terror around the world. Because when you look at October 7th, when you look at some of the terrorists across the world. But you think you can do that from 30,000 feet? You think you can do that from 30,000 feet? Absolutely. Really? I think, now look, now we're getting to tactics of war.

at what point do you start taking out critical infrastructure? The problem we have in Iran is that when you had the uprising, that the Iranian regime killed roughly, what, 50, 60,000 people? They don't have the ability to arm or defend themselves. But let me say this, hands down, no troops in Iran. We do not want to get involved in another conflict. We do not want a protractor war. But, you know, the Iranian regime is day in and day out trying to kill the president

and trying to kill Americans. Enough is enough. All right, last thing here with the Congress really quickly. There's a super PAC bake rolling your opponent, your GOP primary. It says, according, this is Fox News, that it's backed by a Democratic billionaire. Who is this? Well, you know, the guy is, just go ahead and turn that off. Yeah, the guy's out of California.

He is a billionaire. He's a green energy guy. He makes millions and millions of dollars off of government. so much so that when I was one of the ones that got those pulled out, he's now spending $2 million against me. So that's how much money these guys are making off of these subsidies. And so look, that's not the role of government is to make billionaires richer. The role of government is to take care of Americans who need help, quite frankly.

When you have, you know, our soldiers still killing themselves at 20 to 22 a day, that's who deserves support. When you have third graders they can't read, that's who deserves support, not billion. not billionaires in California. And so look, they don't like me because I'm close to the president. I'm endorsed by the president. And he wants his money train from the government. Congressman, your screen can go black.

David's smoking a cigarette if you can't see that. So it's pretty informal here. You can't screen behind him with black. I don't know what happened, but you got to love technology. It might have been that democratic billionaire. Never know the power. Never know the power. Right, Patrick.

That's everything's a conspiracy. The fingers are everywhere, man. Yeah. Fingers on the buttons and pulling the strings. All right, Congressman Andy Ogles of Tennessee, we always appreciate having you on your big ideas. Thanks for being with us here today. Absolutely. Thank you so much.

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It's still going, by the way, right now. This is in the comment section on Facebook. Sometimes Will Kane appears to be a Democrat. Spells my last name, C-A-N-E. Sometimes Will C-A-N-E. Now, the tell here is misspelling my last name. It's posted at least six times here. There's 15 now.

It's posted by 15. Juliette Sullivan, Josino Kepler, Grace White, Frida Darkiel, Catherine Jones. What's up, ladies? All have posted the exact same thing with the exact same misspelling. Those aren't ladies, Will. Yeah. But, like, why do we get spot spammed? You don't know that.

It's a dude in India. Catherine. Catherine, DM me, baby. Yeah. What's up, Frida? Yeah, Frida. Look at Frida's picture. I mean, they're getting creative these days.

AI is scary. All of them. They're all attractive pictures. Why do you think? So all the hot ladies think I'm a Democrat. Sometimes. Come over to the side, you know? Will has Congressman Andy Ogles on today, and that's sounding really democratish.

But if there's spam bots and they grabbed your name from like the headline, it's still spelled wrong. So I just don't get it. And these days, Will, we can't even. know, like, unless I don't know what the context of the reply is, but somebody could be saying that you sound like a Democrat because you want Trump to end the war and just come home. Or somebody could be saying you sound like a Democrat because you're a neocon and you want him to finish the job. It could literally be either of those. Yeah. Right. Right. Right.

Could it be because I want this person signed in the WNBA? This is incredible. And I want this to happen. French transgender basketball player Julie Tatart is, she's, he, six foot three, scoring 21 and grabbing 20 rebounds a game in the French League 2. Here's a question. Why is he in League 2? Shouldn't you be in League 1 in France? This is the winnings league? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. What if League 1 is, dude? And he's dominating League 2 in France. So it's time for the WNBA to put their money where their mouth is. All these coaches that protect trans kids, sign Juliet to Tart. You telling me Juliet couldn't grab 10 rebounds a game in the WNBA? Look at that physique.

Just as an enforcer. Yeah, just body people. It looks like Erling Holland. Yeah. Goodbye. The WMBA is never going to do that. though, right? The WMBA is going to slink back at some point. They'll talk. To whatever the standards are of like tennis and they're going to get there, right?

They just in the meantime need to wear these ridiculous shirts alleging that such a thing as trans children exist so that they can get to that point, you know, having bent the knee sufficiently to the shibbolists of woken that they don't get called out for. But they're going to land there. We need this. This is what's got to happen. It's got to be tested. The words have to be tested. The position has to be put to the test. You got to have a dude do this. The problem is you couldn't field a full team of transgender women, though.

I don't know. Why would you need to full team? Well, the Clay Travis, what he was trying to propose. Building a full transgender team. Well, he's not saying that. He had two ideas. That was one of them. Yeah.

Yes. He had two. Oh, yeah. That's right. His own NWAT made up only of men. The other one was the boys basketball. Because I could just bet on them and you'd win every time. Yeah.

Yeah. I like the high school basketball team idea better. Yeah, same. Because what I think the high school basketball example, and I grew up watching Rashid Wallace play high school basketball in Philadelphia, that Gratz team would beat the Aces 100 to nothing. I mean, no question about it. There's no doubt a high school basketball team would.

No doubt. Just destroy them. And the point of that I think is very important is less about the NBA and more about high school. Right? Because the NBA stars are saying, oh, it's high school. Like, you should let the boys and the girls play together. All right, let's see you play a high school boys team. Exactly.

Exactly. Like I did see a gay newscaster. I don't know on what network go after Clay saying, this bet reveals that he thinks so little of women's sports. No, it doesn't. It reveals that there's a difference between men and women. And you could even put high school boys against the WMBA players, and they would dominate them. Just like the FC Dallas U-U-15 team beat the U.S. women's national team, bad in a scrimmage. That's been, that's 10 years old, that story. But that happened. And so, by the way, U-15 is 14-year-olds. So a team of 14,

year old boys beat the U.S. women's national team in a scrimmage. The point is the illustration of the difference between boys and girls. So all your advocacy for welcoming in trans players is a farce. Now, Dan, I don't know. I don't know how many you could scrabble together. I don't know. Could you get five? Probably. Probably. I probably get a starting five. Yeah. I think if the women want to take on a teenage boys team, They have to get rid of the Brittany Griner types and get like a bunch of tens and really distract them and play that kind of game. Yeah. It's kind of hard when you're like, do you think thinking with your other head, you know?

Patrick, do you think Mom Donnie's a 10? That's not so far from my experience in high school because I played boys basketball and we had a girls basketball team. And they weren't great. But I mean, some of them were like attractive or like friends of friends of mine or whatever. And every once in a while they'd be like, okay, you're. going to scrimmage each other. And we were always just like, I know. I don't want to do it.

First of all, they have nails. Just bad. But it's like, I'm not boxing this five, five. 100%. There are some clips. I'm just not doing it. And then they'd get mad. They'd be like, no, play your best.

And I'm like, no. There are some, boys won't do that. Yeah, you'll pull back for sure. There are some clips already of this, like, prospect. like D1 boy prospects were playing WMBA players just like kind of three on three situations and it was tough to watch

these kids were dominating Did you see speaking of like though the dudes like David pulling back I'm not boxing around Did you see Julie Tartre There's a clip of her Him in the French League 2 Just dominating right

Going up He wasn't dunking Laying it up but then getting the and one And he's all jacked and he gets the end one He's like, oh, on top of the girls. He's going to the foul line. It's like, it is pretty funny. Okay.

I want to hit this, David. This is Ross Dauphit, New York Times columnist, doing an interview. And this is the apropos part for me, okay? This is a Yale law professor. Yale law. Is Yale number one right now? I think it probably is the number one law school in the country. It usually is. It's up there. Yale, Harvard, University of Texas. Anyway, whatever.

But this is a Yale law professor talking about how we should have weighted voting. And here's how he would wait it. I've gotten in some hot water for proposing we consider overweeting the votes of younger people or assigning the youngest eligible voters proxy votes for the unrepresented children of our country. So those are edgy. Why not assign them to those children's parents? Well, because there's a divergence of interest between parents and children. And I think it's likelier that young people, not people who are raising families, who will have the best insight into the interests of children. Well, I just want to say that I'm with Ross.

I should have an extra eight votes. Yeah. Well, okay, so let's explore this idea. The idea is that everybody in our society should have a vote. But, okay, maybe if you're under 18, you're not knowledgeable enough yet to vote. So Ross says, if you're going to go down this path, give your children's votes to the parents. Right? So Patrick would have 15 votes.

And then this guy's like, no. You don't have an 18-year-old, Patrick. So I have an 18-year-old. so my 18-year-old would get my 15-year-old's vote, right? That's what he's saying, because my 18-year-old knows the interests in concerns of my 15-year-old better than me. And he goes on in that clip to say, we've got to divorce ourselves from the idea that parents are always looking out for the best interest of their children. And I think he described it as somewhat of a hostage relationship. Can I just say all of this stuff?

I'm a firm believer that most of the time in this world, if you change something, there's a 95% chance you're going to make it worse, a 4% chance it's going to be the same, and a 1% chance that you're going to make it better, right? The United States has existed for 250 years. It's the oldest representative democracy on the face of the earth. It's the most powerful country in the world. It has the biggest military. It's the place that more people in the entire world want to come to than anyone else, whether it's to live here or. or for the World Cup. But these people are like, you know,

oh, well, we have to revamp our whole voting system. And Pete Buttig just says, oh, well, we have to have 27 Supreme Court justices. And Kamala Harris says, we have to get rid of the electoral college. And the DSA says, let's blow up the Senate. What is wrong with the other? Like, take the win. Take the win, man. Like, like, such a great point.

Just like, step back for a moment. Do we have our problems? Yeah. are we far and away the best experiment in governance and civil society in the world? Yeah. And so your response to that is, we got to re-engineer this whole deal. The whole deal. The electoral college, the Supreme Court, the Senate, we got to re-engineer the whole thing.

That's not, it's not just the win. Those are the reasons that we're not worse off. You'd laugh that guy out of the room. that would, you'd laugh that guy out of the room. If you were in a business and you're like, well, boys, this quarter, not bad, 25% margins, growth curves looking good over the next couple of quarters, we're looking good, and there's somebody in the room going, I don't like it, I don't like it, I think we need to redo the entire production process.

Get rid of the marketing team. I'd be like, what are you talking about, man? I was saying the other day that, you know, after the Cold War, the West, and in particular the United States, States became very self-critical, right? And it's natural. It's like we were suddenly the dad of the world and just like the sitcom dad is the butt of jokes and it's little self-deprecating. That's, you know, how we've acted.

Randy Barnett was a guy who quote tweeted that and he mentioned that in the post-cold war period, we were literally sending experts over to Eastern Europe and all these places saying don't adopt our system. Don't adopt the strong presidency. Don't adopt Congress the way we have it. Do something more like that. the parliamentary system. And it really is.

I don't know why so many Americans think that, like, our system's awful when, as you just eloquently put it, Will, it's clearly the best in the world and the one that the most people want. Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Kane country. I wonder if there's any of the comments going well, Norway, they're doing it better. I'm sure there is. Well, I will say to this point, too, what Democrats do about trying to pull parents from their children is crazy.

I mean, this divide that they're doing is just a wild move to, if you want, why would anyone follow that if that's your belief? I think we'd hear that from Dan. Different things. Yeah. I know. That's the most conservative thing I've said on the show, I think. Wow.

Yes. Well, but I don't think it is. I think that to your point, their position is the most radical thing that you can possibly think of. Sure. Yeah, exactly. Because the project is one of destruction, not of creation. It doesn't even matter how good we are. That's not the point. Like, as much as I like

David's argument, you're not going to win that argument because they don't, they're not trying to win. They're not trying, it's, it's a process of destruction. And what comes in the wake of the destruction is less important. Is what comes in the wake of that destruction, Islamic, you know, fascism, maybe. Is what comes in the wake of it, socialism, communism, maybe. Is it an anarchic chaos, maybe? Is it a tyrannical dictator more in line with their vision? Maybe. But there's no cohesive vision. It's just a movement of destruction. And the only way that you can truly accomplish destruction is to attack the most foundational element of a successful civilization. And the most successful element of a successful civilization is the family. That's it. That's bedrock. That's

bedrock. Once you attack bedrock, the roof will fall in on its own. Don't worry about the roof. But if you go to bedrock, now you are in real destruction. And Will, what you're really talking about is personal responsibility, right? And it's where this

red-green alliance between the communists and the Islamists come from. Since the Iran war started, I've been doing kind of a deep dive into the Crusades, rereading some old stuff. And particularly, I've been reading the contemporary Arab accounts of the first, second, and third crusade.

There's a very interesting linguistic difference between the Christian chroniclers of the Crusades at the time and the Muslim ones. When Christians win a battle at that time, they say, by the grace of God, we won the battle. When they lose, they say, for our sins, we lost this battle. When the Muslim Chronicles describe winning a battle, they also say, through Allah's grace, we won this battle.

But when they lose, they almost always tend to say, through the deceit of the end. Fidel. This is a massive, massively different worldview. And it's why the Islamist idea fits with the communist idea is that nothing is ever your fault. Nothing is ever your responsibility. The community is supposed to provide for you, whether that's communism or whether that's the Imam. And that is a very, very different way of looking at the world than Americans or traditional Western people do. And I think that's a lot of what we're up against. Okay. So I feel like we're close from what I'm close. I think ideology is mostly bullshit. That's what I think,

Dave. I think the story of humanity is tribal battles and wars for power. That's it. And at our base, you strip away what is inside us. That is what we are battling. So does Hassan Piker actually want a Maoist system of communism? No, he doesn't. He doesn't. Nor does anyone else actually want some far-left progressive vision of the future. They don't. What they want is tribal power. That is what it is. And it's been defined on every single level you can think of throughout human history. Race, religion, geography, ideology is just a proxy for this of my side is on top, your side is on bottom. For those that hate America and can't take the win, it's because they feel like their side is not on top. Now, this is why I get mad at Patrick and I get real

wary of the right, always doing the victimhood thing when it comes to the system and putting you behind the eight ball and everything is outside your hands and conspiracy, some of which is true, all that. But it places this idea of a power hierarchy as though it was tribal stratification in America just like it is everywhere else in the world throughout human history. And yes, there are elements of that in American history. But this experiment, allowed for us, tried to, tried to, get beyond that. It's not racially defined who's on top in America. It's not religiously defined who's on top in America. It's not defined by anything other than what you described, Dave, your own ability, your own personal accountability, your merit, that's how

this system is designed. And if you come out on bottom, then you're like, you can't accept that. You can't accept that I failed. So it's the deceit of the infidavit. And so you want to go back to the system of tribal power dynamics. I want to upend and destroy this thing under the pretense that my tribe will be on top. That's what I think is at the deepest psychological level for everybody on this. And by the way, I think the right is toying with it. I think everybody's toying with it because it is our base level. I know you want to defend yourself, Patrick.

A lot of what I said was facetious, but not 100%. So I want the American system that you're talking about. I want to go back to that. We have this socialist system that's kind of been in place through the corporations that is kind of is designed to kind of be the opposite of that American system through DEI and all these kind of things that have radically shifted our society and the structure within the society. That's my point.

I want to live in a world where personal responsibility. and accountability matters. You know, I just want to clarify, I'm not a radical socialist by any means. I hate socialism. I want to go back to what we were. I don't think you are. I think that the instinct to constantly outsource your problems, again, the hard thing for me about this is some of it is true. There are problems that are systemic.

And that's the key. Systems, systems of governance, even corporate systems, they are constrictors on the fluidity of merit. They will create bumpers and ladders in which to climb up this system that shouldn't be tribal. And that's frustrating. And it can be. And so I get it to some degree. But the answer, and I don't think you think this, Patrick, is not to reinforce these systems or give more money to these systems or any of that stuff. But my main thing I'm talking about is what I think is the psychological instinct of people. And I think that's where it all comes back to. tribal power dynamics.

I think you're spot on, Will, but I would add, yes, the story of history is mostly a story of sort of warring and competing tribes. But the tribes are very different, right? This is something that John Cleese talks a lot about in the British context of the difference between traditional British society and traditional Islamic society. I'll go a little deeper into the history of the Middle Ages. One of the most important things that ever happened in Christendom was when the church banned bigamy and cousin marriage, right?

Because what did that mean? Suddenly, when you didn't have bigamy, when one guy couldn't have six wives, all of these daughters had to get married off to somebody, right? It opened up. Who could be a landowner? Who could be a farmer? Who could be these things? The same thing happened with cousin marriage. And when you just said, for Americans, the family is the bedrock, that's not true in Arab culture.

The tribe is the bedrock, right? That is a fundamental difference. It's also not true for communists. Don't think the family is the is they think the state is right and they certainly think they know better How you should deal with your own family than you do so I do think that You know again to bring up John Cleese I do think that we have to not be afraid to make judgment calls Between these tribes between these tribes between the value systems of these tribes and say we like ours better and we want to keep ours Yeah you're right David and this is the the thing that I struggle with and this it's like everything is a matter of degree

I'm not a cultural relativist, and I'm also not a complete radical individualist, which I might have been in the past. I've come to appreciate the power of culture, and culture is defined by tribes. It is. But you have to say the tribe, and however you define it, you know, the Western European, English, Protestant founders and settlers of America, the culture they brought with them, was the one that allowed for the most fluidity and merit to achieve. That was what was superior. Well, there's a couple other things like the work ethic and that kind of thing, the Protestant work ethic, so forth.

But that's what allowed it to become something. This was accessible success to maybe somebody is not a member of that tribe. You could adopt the culture. You could adopt the Moors. You could achieve. Well, also the thing about these communists and socialists now that are coming out, aren't even having families. So they don't have those same values, not because they're Muslim, but just because they don't

value it because they don't value it, will, all the time, they value self above all else and then self within their community. So they don't even care about parents having a choice or say. You're not including polycules? Yeah. That's right. I get what you're saying, David. And I'm actually passionate about what you said.

like you can't be afraid to call out the merits and demerits of various cultures and what they have achieved. We have experiments. It's called history. But you're not allowed. And what, not every culture is perfect. And you can even look at some cultures and go, wow, they do that better than us. And that was kind of the cool thing about America, right? But without forgetting the foundational culture.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's why this whole concept of cultural, appropriation is so damaging. You know, years ago, I wrote a piece that at the time at the height of wokeness was not very well received that was called all cultures are mine. And I described a very specific situation where I was on the subway in New York City and I was watching, I think it was an Asian or South Asian kid reading on the road,

which is like one of my three or four favorite books, right? And I was really thrilled that this kid was reading Carrowack. I always am when I see people reading Carrowack. And I thought to myself, like, the idea that because I'm white, Catholic, from the northeast of the United States, I'm all, whatever it is, the idea that I have any more ownership over the works of Jack Kerouac than that kid is crazy. But it's also crazy in terms of James Baldwin. It's also crazy in terms of, you know, Confucius or all of these things. We have to all be able to have access to this. And it's interesting because in a way, cultural appropriation defeats it.

itself because when white culture is the only one that's open source that belongs to everybody, right? The business suit belongs to everybody. We have no culture. David. Ballet belongs to everybody. That keeps it at the center. That keeps it most powerful. When you start saying, oh, well, only black people are allowed to do rap music, only Indian

people are allowed to make this food, that ghettoizes those cultural contributions and make them smaller. So they're actually defeating their own purpose with this nonsense. Yeah. I love exactly what everything David says. But real quick, Dan just made another comment that is extremely right wing. And I just, I just can't take it anymore. He said, but whites don't have a culture, David.

I was being, I was being facetious. No, I know. No, no. Well, I don't know. I think we're told that we're told that we don't have a culture. I know. In the American context, in the American context, We have boat shoes and, you know, we have...

Oh, you're saying because I was joking. That ain't my culture. That's me and David's, the Northeast Catholics, the whites. Yeah, we have, you know, button downs, rafflor and, you know. White culture is a very broad. I mean, I think all... I have been toying with the idea. I've been toying with the idea of loafers and it's really eating at me.

I'm like, well, you've never been a loafer guy. Don't do it. Don't do it. I like... The only shoes without laces you wear are boots. Don't do this. But there's part of me that's like you're 50 and maybe you could and maybe it fits this particular scenario. Well, I think that's how you have to do it, right?

I've never seen loafers with socks. I could see that's your next that's your next evolution as being a loafer guy. I think it is, Dan. I think it is. And I don't like it. Are you a robe guy? I don't. A what guy?

Robe. Like do you wear like a hefner robe? Oh, robe. No, not a robe guy. No. I feel like loafer guys and robe guys, though, are in the same. I feel like that Vendai-Gam would be fat. That if you're rocking loafers, you probably have a few, like, really nice robes at home.

Yeah. No. I don't have either yet. And I don't see robes on the horizon, but I can kind of see down the road that there could be a pair of loafers. My Instagram algorithm is starting to give me a couple. Yeah. I'm going, hmm. Do it.

Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.

Do it. I like that. Um. Patrick, before we go, where are you? Why are you in front of a diner? What's going on? I'm a New Jersey, Will. Yeah.

That's the soprano. Why are you in New Jersey? Yeah. I just wanted to get some sausage. What's his name just died? Yeah. Pussy. Yep.

You can't say that. No, I can't say that. That was his name. What was this real name? Yeah. Sal. I read it. It's a good day.

No. All right, Pete. I don't know. Those guys are going away. Check out David Marcus at Fox News.com. You always does great work. Green new article out today. On the show.

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