Will Cain Country - MLB Picked The Wrong Fight

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

In today’s free-wheeling, laid-back Friday edition of 'Will Cain Country,' Will and The Crew start off by recapping the viral journey of the anonymous German tourist, “Freddy” before breaking down the blatant hypocrisy of the MLB’s pushback against players writing bible verses on their hats. Plus, they examine transgender actor Elliot Page’s unique take on masculinity, the internet’s attempts to manufacture outrage over Alexi Lalas’ coverage of the World Cup, and the mainstream media’s attempts to downplay a study that uncovered horrific levels of rape at the hands of Pakistani migrants in the U.K.Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It is Will Cain Country streaming live. Every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern Time at the Will Cain Country YouTube channel the Wilcane Facebook page. Always here, especially on Fridays at Spotify or on Apple tinfoil pat, two a days. And let's talk, fellas, about Freddie. All week, there have been videos littering social media and everything. everybody's algorithm. It has been a true, absolute joy for me. It is one of my favorite things of the past week to see foreigners, to see Brits, to see Japanese, to see Dutch appreciating America.

It has been awesome. I actually like it even more than what's going on on the pitch or on the field, which I enjoy as well, watched Mexico last night be South Korea in Guadalajara. But this mirror that foreigners are holding up to our country is my favorite part because I think America has been so down on itself, obviously and primarily from the left, but also even within the right, that it's just such a good reminder of who we are, what we have, and the way we live in America. And my favorite of them all is Freddie. Are you guys keeping up with the travels of Freddie? No, I haven't. I've seen a few things. Freddie can get bent because I reached out to him to bring him on the show,

and he never got back to me. So I don't really care what Freddy does from now on. Bro, you hate this whole thing. I'm with Will, okay? But Freddie, he's a no-go on my book, all right? Get bent, Freddy. I will say, Patrick, I haven't seen any media appearances by Freddie. He's not big-legging you.

He's doing no media. And we'll also say that Freddie seems to be very busy. I would imagine that his DMs are absolutely chock full. Now, he is checking those DMs. And we'll talk about it in just a moment because there's some very cool opportunities coming the way of Freddie. And he's clearly accepting some of those opportunities, just not the one from Will King Country and tinfoil pack. But I don't like to live the world angry. I do. Don't get me wrong. I'm filled with rage right now in some very trivial personal ways that I would love to take. I am a generally happy guy. I've learned something about myself as a warning to anyone out there. Okay. And you probably saw hints of this during the confirmation process of Secretary of War Pete Heggseth. And I mean this as an act of self-discovery. You never stopped learning about yourself. If you had asked me at 30, would you say one of the major words to describe?

you is loyalty, I would have said no. That is not to say I'm not loyal. That is just not to say I would have thought it was my own of my primary characteristics. It's just not something that I would have said defines Will Kane. But as I've aged and really honestly discovered myself and when I'm emotionally motivated, I think that I have learned I am incredibly loyal. Like, if you're in my tent, I will fight all the way to the the enemy's trench. I will go all the way, and I will get you across the border to Mexico. I know this about myself, but that loyalty comes with another thing, and that is, if you cross me, I'm done with you.

And the best version of that for me, and you two have seen this play out behind the scenes, is I will not do you a favor. I will not. I might not let it weigh on my heart. I try not to be consumed with anger, but you do no longer get goodwill from me. And I'm not saying that's admirable. I'm not saying that's right. I'm just saying it's how I feel, and it's perhaps me giving in to my worst angel. And you too could probably name some names.

People who are no longer on this program for various things that they have done or said, and that's the way it's going to be. but I fight in some ways going the next step, which is I will destroy you. Not only will I not do something good for you, but I will use, I will use, I think, the not meager powers that I have to ensure that you will never be met with success in life. And I have not given in to that. I have not given in to that, Angel. Wait, I can guess this person, like this next person. No, you can't.

No, I'm not, we're not doing names, and I don't even know how we got on this tangent. But I'm just telling you that I've, in an active process of self-discovery, I know this. And yeah. It's your competitiveness. No, no, no, no. This one is very, very open. No, that's not it. That's not it.

I am a competitive person. That's not it. I am a competitive person. I want to win at bumper pool. I want to win it TV. I want to win at everything. But I'm not a sore loser in a fair competition. I am not that at all.

I do not get that kind of angry. I'm more talking about behavior or values on a personal level that I consider wrong, then or you have wronged me, but more. Importantly, this is more importantly, more accurate. If you have wronged someone that I love, good luck. Yeah, you're done. Good luck. I feel that.

I get that. More so than about me. Oh, yeah. Totally. If you wrong me, I'm actually more forgiving. Sure. But if you wrong someone I love, good luck. You're done.

Go for it. I'm not the worst enemy. I have a list for you, Will. of my enemies. There are better enemies. Yeah. Because you love me. What a way to start Friday.

I'm fired up. I know. I don't even know how we got here. I don't know what happened. But I think I was making the point that I'm not someone who is consumed with rage. And I'm not going to let Freddie, I'm not going to develop a malcontent's view of the world when it comes to Freddie because he hasn't returned a DM to tinfoil pat. And what's going on right now with Freddie in America is awesome. Now, I'm not going to belabor the foreigner holding up a mirror for America. I just want to, for a moment, all of us together, envision the life of Freddie.

So Freddie is a German tourist that apparently began his World Cup road trip somewhere on the eastern seaboard. I don't know that he began in New York, but he began somewhere in the east and he drove through the south. And he began posting, it's three guys. And we don't even know that one of them is actually Freddie. It could be a joint persona that the three of them are posting under. And they made their way and stopped at Buckees and they stopped at Cains and they stopped in Baton Rouge and went to LSU. They've just been on a Toquevillian discovery of America. It is literally the modern day Alexis de Tocqueville.

Alexis de Tocqueville, the famous Frenchman who did his road. trip in the early days of this continent, this country, and discovered America and was totally blown away by its people, by America. That's Freddie in 2026. He goes to Houston and the doors are open for him to come in and see NASA. And somewhere in the road trip, Freddie posts Ella Langley choose in Texas. Saw that. And they're like, we have discovered Ella Langley. Well, last night, the three Freddies drove from Houston to Oklahoma City as they were invited to an Ella Langley concert by Ella Langley. They posted their arrival in Oklahoma City. They walk into their hotel room. And in their hotel room, there is three pairs of full quill ostrich boots made by Takova.

There's Western shirts. There's hats. I believe there's tequila. The swag is insane. In Houston, J.J. Watt did the same thing. Put them up in this amazing hotel, apparently the nicest hotel in Houston, and covered them up in swag like J.J. Watt, Houston's Texan's jerseys. I mean, they're going to have to file a tax return for as much swag as they've gotten in America. And now it appears, and Patrick probably knows this because a friend of the program, Nick Adams, now a cultural ambassador for the United States, has, I think, made contact and invited the first. Freddy's to the White House. And I think they are headed there. It's also amazing. And here's what I wanted, here's what I wanted to say really quickly, Patrick. This is the fun part. Imagine for a moment that we go to Germany.

Oh. Can you reverse this? Like, what is this experience? Let's do it. Right? What is this experience? Beer Fest or? I can't name the German artist.

I can't name the German Ella Langley. Like, we're all of a sudden, the doors of Germany opened up to us. And we are literally VIP backstage to Germany. I want to meet Ango-Marf. We drive across Germany with the ultimate VIP pass. And I just can't get over how amazing this is. And you know they got to go back home. I don't think Freddie was a complete random anonymous German.

I do think he had a bit of a press. presence on X as a bit of a soccer fan following a couple of programs, but not huge. He loved Ronaldo. But I don't think it gave him a huge public persona that put him on any red carpets in America. And he has to go home. I'm sure his friends already know, like, bro, you are not going to believe our trip to America. What a vacation. That's insane.

It would be fun to do it the opposite way. Can I become tinfoil pat for a second if I can? Can I transfer that to me? There is a theory on Reddit that I read, that it is a guerrilla marketing campaign for certain products. That's what I read. I'm just saying that. I'm not saying it is, but there are theories out there that this whole Freddie thing.

What products? Like he posted a picture with Truly, the hard seltzer, that looked a little like staged, you know, on the airplane. and that kind of thing. So there is just a theory that's a grilla marketing type thing and it was kind of planned this way. But not to be a, you know, poopy pants, but...

So... Is J.J. Planned by, like, tourism people folks or transportation folks. Yeah. So, like, JJ Watt got paid for... Okay. Here's a question.

As is always the case in these wonderful conspiracies. Is J.J. Watt duped or in on the conspiracy? Duped. Maybe duped. I would say duped. Is Ella Langley duped or in on the conspiracy? Duped, because it's usually their person who saw it and was like, hey, you got to like, this is fun or, you know, whatever.

You know, it gets boosted by X, you know, with a little bit of nudging. It gets big enough. And then they get roped in. Yeah. It's possible. I'm just saying it would be genius. I don't think it's impossible. I don't know who would be the astro turf behind Freddie.

Would it be the World Cup Tourism Board or something like that? Or FIFA? Yeah, it could be. Or is it Nick Adams and the White House's cultural attache to America? I don't think it's impossible. I don't think it's Nick. I don't think it's impossible. But I don't think that's the case.

Just look at all the pictures again. And maybe just maybe because I choose to. be, you know, a non-Synic, I don't, I think it, I just, I don't, I don't know, I don't, I don't think it's highly unlikely. It's highly unlikely. It would be so lovely if this was the case. It just was completely organic and natural. Let's just, let's just say it is, okay? We'll try to, we'll try to be a little optimistic today on Friday. I mean, America's playing today in soccer. hey, maybe it will be optimistic.

Optimistic Friday today. I don't even know what to do with optimistic, Pat. That's a whole, like, it's like a disturbing, disturbing world. I'm terrified. Are you okay? Do you need to talk? You know, like, you just got to feel the magic sometimes, you know?

Wow. Major League Baseball and Baseball at large, feeling the magic. today. This out of a minor league baseball team, York Revolution, their players, reads the headlines, refused to wear Pride Night jerseys. So this team chose to forfeit instead. Minor League Baseball's York Revolution declined to play its Pride Night game in Pennsylvania and opted to forfeit after players refused to wear rainbow uniforms. Want to see the uniform? Want to see the jersey? This was the proposed jersey by the York Revolution.

Fairly normal jersey down the middle. Sleeves. It's just a color spectrum. Bright as a unicorn. Just a rainbow, rainbow sleeves. I know. I feel like Revolution, the name,

should be more red, white, and blue, not like red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple. Let's take a quick break. We'll come right back with the controversy in Major League Baseball over Pride Night, Elliot Page, and Alexie Lollas on Will King Country.

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So you know the story of the San Francisco Giants having their players. wear pride-themed hats. They were rainbow across the S.F. On the Giants hat. Shoot, I thought I saved it. But the Harmeet Dillon, do you guys have that info? The Harmeet Dillon, who is, what, civil rights under the Trump administration? Yep.

Assistant Attorney General of Civil Rights at the U.S. Department of Justice. Yeah, I have it right here. Harvey Dillon has issued a letter. Yeah, the tweet she posted says, Swing and a Miss, Major League Baseball encouraged players to wear black lives matter on their uniforms, but reportedly threatened Christians

who write Bible verses on their hats. The United States, EEOC, is that Equal Employment Opportunity Commission? We'll investigate whether this amounts to religious discrimination. And she's got a letter, she posted here, directed to MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits employers from discriminating against any individual with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions, and privileges.

Major League, this is, I'm trying to look for the operative paragraph here. Major League Baseball has asserted that it's warning to the Giants players. They issued these players that wrote the Bible verse a warning Major League Baseball. So dumb. MLB asserts that it had absolutely nothing to do with the content. of the message and that it merely is enforcing a policy that prohibits writing on uniforms. Yet, Major League Baseball has allowed players to wear uniform patches reading Black Lives Matter,

the double standard under which players may not inscribe Bible verses on hats for one game only, but may wear Black Lives Matter patches for one game only, calls Major League Baseball's true motives into question and raises serious concerns about Major League Baseball's compliance with Title VII. Man, Major League Baseball, I think, think it was Clay Travis for this. I think they really stepped in it with this one. Oh, yeah. I think they

this is not 2020 anymore. And, um, you know, I totally understand like a policy in professional sports. They all have them, every single league that you can't alter your

uniform, you know? Like a policy you can't write things on your hat. I understand that policy. But what it's not being, balanced. Sorry? They do it when players die. Like a player dies, they write stuff on their hats. They do it all the time.

Do they write it or is it like usually an official patch they get on for one game? Either way. Sometimes they do both, but sometimes like a player will just write his own or like a friend passes away. I've seen it all the time. It's very common. Okay. Yeah. There's a little market. Okay. Okay. Let's

accept that. All right. If it is simply you can't alter your uniform, like, NFL has those rules all over the map, right? Not anymore. They're super strict. Are they not super strict on that anymore? No.

Really? If you look at the socks and everything, they've gotten away. Listen, this is why I've been running for sports uniforms are for the last two years, because we need to get more strict on sports uniforms. Football has fallen. Baseball has been down for 25 years now. So, I mean, players are using, like, neon green and yellow when their sports, when their colors are much different. It's absurd.

Some of the things are going on. Okay. Well, there was a time when football was super strict about this. Agreed. And if you were like that and you, which you want, Patrick, clearly, if you had that policy and you enforced it uniformly, it is what it is. It doesn't matter if it's a Bible verse, a political statement, whatever. Would you agree with that, Patrick? You can't write a Bible verse on your hat.

If the policy is, you can't alter your uniform. I mean, that's pretty easy, right, to apply. The problem is, first, that if Dan is right, they don't actually enforce that. They don't enforce it consistently or rigorously. So now selective enforcement is super interesting when you apply the selective enforcement to a Bible verse. But there's a secondary thing that I have a real issue with. So it's the forced nature of Pride Night. That is the original sin that causes this, right?

And then, if we're being honest, the players are writing the Bible verse as a response to being forced to co-sign to Pride Night. If we're being honest, that's what they're doing. And if a player says, if a player gets coy about it and is like, no, I'm not, you know, be it. You are doing it. This is where the rub is. This is the rub, okay? That the left looks at that and goes, you're doing that as a rebuttal to pride.

You're doing it as a response to pride. And then they get mad, right? My suspicion is, if it weren't pride, if it were a random game in September, and you wrote a Bible verse on your hat, the left wouldn't have a whole lot to say about it, right? No. They wouldn't have a whole lot to say about it.

They only have something to say. about it on pride. Okay? So, from the player's perspective, you're forcing me to adopt your message, league-wide or team-wide. It's mostly team-wide because there's only one team that doesn't do it, the Texas Rangers, right? Every other team does it. So you're forcing me as a player to accept this message. And in response, I'm going to offer this message.

Now that's not, and I do think the players are sincere. It's not a message of hate. It's not a message of exclusion. It's not anything. It is simply a message. And by the way, this is a deeper philosophical conversation we've had a long time. Ultimately, when you get to a lot of this stuff, it is that homosexuality is not endorsed by most major world religions, but notably in this case, Christianity. It is just not.

So now you're forcing these Christians to accept and promote a, message that they do not agree with. Now, that agreement, this is where the conversation goes haywire, from the left's perspective, is hate. That disagreement is hate, and that's not true. I don't think these guys hate anyone that's gay. I don't think that they hate. I think that, in fact, as we've talked about, judgment, in this case, religious judgment, which would be God's judgment, is an act of love. It is not an act of love to tolerate something that you feel is wrong. You don't tolerate your kids doing something they thought I think is wrong. If your kids taking drugs, it's not loved to go, man, I support you.

I celebrate you. And so, no, hold on, Dan. If Christianity, I mean, you say it's a little different. I mean, one could argue drugs only harms one person. And if Christianity believes that homosexuality is a sin and then therefore it's wrong, What? Doesn't harm anybody else. But neither does the drugs.

But in this scenario, neither does the drugs. It's a, it's a behavior who's... As much as you're worried about it, you are not endorsing something that you think is wrong. And that's the issue here. Okay, the real issue isn't, well, maybe it is. What is Christianity's view of homosexuality? I mean, if you want to get there, but that's way beyond me, That's way beyond you. That's way beyond the players.

That's like, I guess in the end, that is the crux of the debate that nobody really is willing to wait into. And the LGBT agenda in that case is to change Christianity or reject Christianity. There are certainly denominations in churches that are more celebratory or tolerant or whatever. But on the majority, on the whole, it's not. Neither is Islam. you know and so what I'm getting at is if you force players to endorse one message

I don't know that you can then tell them they can't offer a separate message it's it's I mean I know that those supporters of pride say it's just a tall it's just about tolerance it's just about But it's not really just about tolerance. It's about celebration. It's about endorsement at some point.

Right. But it's a quasi-religious thing, though. But I understand that you shouldn't force a person to celebrate something they disagree with. I completely agree with that. But I think the backing of what people want to, is acceptance that there are gay people. They exist. They're okay. They're not hurting anybody else.

Game over. But there are people who completely disagree of their entire life. lifestyle and who they are as a person and that they shouldn't exist that way. That's the problem. And so if you kind of deny this. You choosing that word, they shouldn't exist that way. I don't like your word choice. Sorry, you're right.

You're upping the ante. I just mean like that being gay isn't right. But people are gay. It's not a choice. And they just are that way. So if somebody believes that, Dan, if somebody believes that, do you think they should be forced? No. To celebrate pride?

No, I don't agree. Okay, that's the point. Yeah, exactly. I agree with you on that. I'm just saying the backing of why people are pushing this so hard in the LGBTQ community is because there are so many people telling them that they shouldn't be gay, that it is wrong. And that's, you know, as a person that hurts. And so they're going overboard to get a message across.

But if you agree, anybody that is an LGBTQ plus activist, I mean, that's the question. do you feel like players should be forced to endorse your worldview? That'd be curious. Your opinion. I'd be curious to hear their thought on that. Because that's what's happening. And then the players write the Bible version response. And I don't want to have the debate about hate because you can't take it there.

I firmly disagree with that characterization that it's hate. Not hate. I feel like they have to go there to make it seem like the only potential virtuous position is the one that you wear the pride hat. Do you see what I'm saying? Sure. but there are people that do hate them. So there are, even if there's one, you know, it's true. Well, I mean, there's people that hate everybody.

I understand, but, you know, it's a tough road. And I'm not trying to. I don't know, but I think it's more of a liberty issue, though. I mean, like, you know, I don't, even if you're Christian, I don't think that we would want, you know, a night where we promote Christianity on baseball caps. I just want the DM teams. to wear their regular uniforms. That's all I want.

Right. I don't want Mother's Day pink uniforms. I don't want Father's Day light blue uniforms. I don't even like the pro-America uniforms. How ridiculous the Oakland A's look. Well, get out of here. When they use red, white, and blue, when they're a green team, it doesn't make any sense. Yeah.

I hate it. Wear your damn uniform, like a regular person. I just think we have to also understand that, and this is when Patrick called it quasi-religious. Like, we've moved beyond the concept of co-executive. existence. We've moved beyond the concept of tolerance. We're firmly in the in the in the in the in the realm of celebration and an endorsement. Yeah. Like you're forcing them to endorse something. You know like this tweet um I don't know who this person is but I just saw it and I thought it's so weird to be trying to force people to celebrate other people's sexual lusts. Now you may think that last two words is a

a diminishment of it, but to celebrate people's sexual preference, you force them to celebrate that. That's really weird. That's a really weird thing to do. But it's not just a sexual preference. It's who they are. I mean, it's like we're being, we're straight. I'm sorry, man. No, no, I'm sorry.

That's entirely too deep. And at this point in 2026, that sounds like an opinion from 2008. Like, you can't do that. And I do think that this side of the equation tries to do that. They try at times to fall back on the talking point from 2008 or even 2001. Like, you're straight, you're gay. So it's an identity. It's like part of who you are and you didn't have a choice about it.

Do you see what I mean? And therefore, you can't reject somebody for immutable characteristics. But we're in 2026. That doesn't work anymore because the line now is you do choose. You can choose anything you want. You can be anything you want. And if you tell me, if you tell me, no, no, no, that's not accurate, Will. My question for you is, I mean, this whole spectrum of things of identity, if it's fluid, it's a choice.

How's a different story? Oh, I agree. Because I moved into gender versus sexuality? No, I just agree with you on everything else. I was just talking about actual homosexuality, just how we think of it. But, yeah, gender fluidity is wild. Dan, I'm saying they might have written a, Time Magazine. I think there was a Time Magazine article. I can't remember what year we would have been in like 2003 that said looking for the gay gene. Like literally they were, yeah, I think scientists were looking for it, right? Because it begins from the premise of the fact that it's an immutable characteristic that you're born that way. And therefore, let's see if we can code it in the DNA strands and see where it is, right? And of course, that never went anywhere. But now the narrative, the agenda, the the conversation is well beyond that.

right it's well beyond that where i i mean it's you're you're arguing that you could be different things at different times both gender and sexuality and if that's the case no what people do that's the that's the era we live in we don't live in the era of you are you aren't right we don't live in that era anymore but there are people who are gay who now we're in an era and don't like this new era i don't know man it's like it's the point is you're straddling this thing between immutable characteristic and choice. And so if you straddle that, that totally changes the equation on things,

like on how you think about this. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, that's what turned everyone on it because it kind of was just like, you're gay or homosexual, but now it's all these other things. So now there's this added layer of just extra that people can't understand. And you're right.

The fluidity is wild. If you could just be one thing one day and another thing the other day, people who are actually are gay are like, well, that's not what I am. I'm not just not gay one day. You're celebrating my choices. So when this guy says you're forced another people to celebrate your sexual lusts, you're celebrating what I want to do.

You're celebrating me. You have to celebrate me doing and being and acting however I want to do. That's the message now. I don't agree with it either. That's all the lines on the flag that they're wearing on the San Francisco I think it's just a huge overcorrection and they're pretty wrong for it. It's tough. Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Cain Country.

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Speaking of this, I think this is a good transition. We've been sitting on this this week. Elliot Page, formerly Ellen Page, was, I don't know what she was on, Patrick. I don't know what show this is. Yeah, I don't either. It's Elliot Page Talking about Remember now

It's Ellen Page Originally from Juno That's the main thing I Remember her from Juno? Yeah, that was her big break Inception What was the other one?

Inception Inception? I don't remember She was Ariotny She was like one of the main characters Or he, I don't know I haven't rewatched that movie much Dude

I really all are Watch it like every six months. It's so good. Huh. Well, now Elliot Page transitioned, said this about masculinity. Healthy masculinity to me is, or even just something I've felt as transitioning

is like leaning away from whenever there is some sort of impulse or expectation you've put on yourself to like shut down or conform in a way that you, that usually feels like this. Like I am closing off. I remember kind of being like, oh, Elliot, maybe you should, you know, talk with your hands a little less. You know, maybe in pictures.

Because ever since transitioning, now I'm like Johnny, I'm smiling. I am smiling in those photos. Whereas I used to be so, I could barely look at a photo of myself. I was always like, you know, and now. All right, well, I kind of don't get it. So, all right. So you first adopted, help me understand it. You first adopted what you thought were stereotypical traits of masculinity, which was being closed off and not smiling and more stoic.

And now you're growing into a more feminized, authentic version of masculinity comfortable with themselves, which is more feminine. I'm not saying that all men are stoic and non-smiling. Talking about talking with his, her hands and all that. Like, Italian. Help me understand, Patrick. No, I mean, that's, that's pretty much a gist of it.

It's like trying to, trying to claim that, like, masculinity is, one way. And then they are now, essentially, like, feminizing masculinity. Or redefining it. Redefining it.

It's very odd. I'm going to become a man. And then I'm a turn men. Into being more feminine. So, like, aren't you just feminine? It's kind of the point, right? Yeah. So you became a man, but, yeah.

And I'm going to call that masculinity. Right. Yes. Because now it is. That's what it is now, because I'm saying it. That's so weird. The logic of all this, the psychological twist of all of this is so weird. Yeah.

I struggle to think because, like, we can never understand, obviously. And I think years down the road, maybe we'll have a better understanding of it. But it's just, you know, you can't wrap your head around it if you're not in it. It's such a like, if Elliot were here, the end of the conversation, like the goal of the end of the conversation is not unlike the previous conversation. The demand is that I just nod. That's the demand. Like, I just have to nod. Anything else is intolerant bigotry.

Do you see what I'm saying? That's the standard that is set. I am only allowed to nod. You know, I can't think. Yeah. I can't process. I have to nod. Otherwise, I'm a bigot.

Do you see what I'm saying? And there's not a deeper demand. There's not, maybe you could argue, and maybe Patrick believes there's like this agenda to totally destroy the concept of masculinity. Yes, in some degree that there is. But I think it's more base level than that. It's just a demand of people, individuals out there that you, at a minimum nod, and more appropriately celebrate whatever the hell I'm saying.

And say you accept this, yeah. It's a narcissism. Yeah. Yeah, because if all they were like, I just want to exist and you can ignore me, I don't care. That's one thing. But this is kind of being like, I need you to know that. Or I need to know that you accept it. And some of it, I mean, like when you get down to it, you know, there are some who, you know, clearly have issues and they are trying to embrace the new identity and try to pass, right?

But then there are others who kind of just have a fetish and kind of want you to celebrate their fetish, you know, where they don't even try. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's really weird. Yeah. I got a couple other things I want to hit with you. But first, and from Chevron, since 1879, their people have been more than a source of energy. They've been a source of progress, helping deliver record U.S. energy production and fueling the breakthroughs that move America forward. Learn more at chevron.com slash 250. Okay, I've got some heavy things.

I want to hit with you another couple heavy things. That was heavy. I want to light it up for a minute. I'm not afraid to do it this way. Our boy, my boy, Alexi Lollis, okay? I like Alexi. I'm here to tell America. I like Alexi.

Great guy. He's getting heat. He's getting a lot of heat. So the Fox Studio show for the World Cup is Rebecca Lowe as your host. I'll tell everybody, because I don't presume everybody knows who these guys are as we go. Tieri-Henri-Han-Ibrahimovich and Alexi Lollis as your analysts. Okay, those are three. Now, here's the way this works.

Tieri-on-Ree is probably in the top 10 to 15 players of all time. He's great. He's French. And he's a really good analyst. I actually really like Tieri, and he makes funny faces. He's super serious. The CBS, I'm going to throw flowers for what it's deserved. The CBS Champions League Studio Show, which is Tieri-on-Ree, Jamie Carriger, and Micah, what's Micah's last name?

Micah, dang it. And he's kind of the star, Micah. Richards? Michael Richards with the host, Kate Scott. It's the second-best studio show. Actually, I might put it number one over inside the United States. NBA. Really?

Barkley, Shack, Ernie, and Kenny. Yeah, it's so good. They're so good. Inside the NBA is amazing. It's so good. Those guys love each other. They have fun. They bust each other's balls.

They laugh. They give good soccer analysis. It just highlights to you. And I've said it before, and I don't care how self, you know, congratulatory is. I think Fox and Friends weekend in the day was in this conversation. I think when you have three, you know, a group of people that genuinely like each other, it can do whatever content like that, it's just super rare. It's really hard.

It can't be manufactured. They found it at TNT, and now it's now at ESPN. They found it as CBS around their Champions League coverage. Well, the studio shows, as I just described, for Fox for the World Cup. And so the first thing people notice, there's a couple of superficial things that stick out immediately when you watch it. Zlatan is not great at English. He's only okay at English. So is TRI.

What? So is Henri. I know Henri speaks good English. He just has a French accent that makes it hard to understand it's rough, though. Frenchman speaking English is one of the harder accents to hear. Do you know what I'm saying? That's true. But he speaks English well.

But Zlatan, he's just such a... I love that. He's just such a Darth Vader's figure. He speaks in like very stilted short sentences. and we've talked about how cocky he is and all that. But Zlatan is also one of the greatest players of all time. So you've got two guys who are the greatest players of all time. And then you have Alexi.

Now look, Alexi played in World Cup. It's a great American player. He's not on their level. He's not. Okay? And he would say the same. He would say that. So for a lot of viewers, they're watching this.

And they're seeing this. like disconnect, like, you know, I mean, but the truth is, Kenny Smith isn't on the level of Shaq and Charles Barkley either, you know? Kenny Smith was really good, but he's not Shaq and Barclay. So, but Alexi also has really strong opinions, and he speaks really declaratively, and it's just for a lot of people watching is a bit of a record scratch. And there's a lot going around about how much Latton and maybe even Henri hate Alexi. Now, I'm not sure it's true. I think a lot people are clipping and cutting and this kind of thing. Dan, do you think it's true?

I mean, I don't know. There's one clip. I was just trying to find it. Sorry. Whereas Lotton was kind of saying, you know, talking about egos and confidence and false confidence. And you could see Tieri-on-Ree's face, like, just kind of looked down and be like, and he's clearly talking about Alexi. Yeah, but that wasn't a shot.

That wasn't shot about Alexi. That was a shot in Landon, Donovan. Yeah, they were coming back from, see, this is why social. media sucks. Landon Donovan had said the yeah, Landon Donovan said the French team was arrogant in the first half and

that's what got them. And then they come back into studio and Zlatan says only an idiot would call, or he said they were cocky. Only an idiot would read confidence as arrogance. It's a shot at Landon, but Alexi's sitting there and Henri makes a funny

face. But Zlatan has taken a couple of shots at Alexi. Yeah. But to be fair, Alexi kind of started it. Like on the first day or two, Alexi said that Erling Holland,

Norway striker, Manchester City striker, is on the path to being greater than Slotan. Two Zlatan's face. And Henri. And Zlatan. Two, didn't he? He said also better than...

No, because Zlatan and Holland both played the same position. Uh-uh. And so, and, um, no one's... If you rank,

people who would not take that well, Zlatan would be very, very high on people that would not take that well. And so I do think that might have set the tone of a relationship that's got to last a month, you know. Yeah. But I've done enough TV that I have to think it's all good behind the scenes. I have to believe. You think so? I have to believe it, man. I've seen very, I've seen very few where it's genuinely bad.

You know, I don't think it's probably great for Scott Jennings at CNN behind the scenes. but I've seen very few where it's like, Zlatan and Henri walk off going, can you believe we're here with Alexi? And there's one more thing. I like Alexi. Like as a person, I think Alexi comes up. He's been great on our show.

I've met him in person. I really like Alexi. I like his analysis. I think people undercut him because he's American. They say he doesn't know what he's talking about. And they undercut him because he speaks declaratively. Some people call it Hot Takes or whatever. But he does an American style of broadcasting.

He's like, you know, I'll tell you, after the first half of the first U.S. game, he goes, that's the best half of American soccer ever. And you know what? As it turned out, he was right. It probably is. And he said it declaratively. And if you did that show, and Alexi is as good as it gets, what are you going to put, Dempsey? Clem's good, too. Up there.

You could do that. But you better put an American. I want an American on that. I think the fact that's an American broadcast. People don't like. That's it too, Dan. Yeah. And by way, I don't think he's super conservative.

He's just a little conservative. He's like Trump. He's posted about Trump. The brunch crew is not like it because of that reason. That's exactly what's going on, Dan. He's American. He does some hot takes and he's conservative. And so they've decided they hate Alexi Lawless.

That's what it is. And he doesn't know anything about soccer because of that also is what they say. You know what I mean? Correct. That's what they say. Yeah, exactly. But he does. And he's great.

But they just hate it. It's like the TDS is the same thing. But I got to ask you, though, you know, you've seen where, like, Henri and Zlatan were messing around with a soccer ball with each other, like, in one of those break-type situations, but Alexi's not there. Yeah, Lexi wasn't in it. You know what I did see that? Like, people were looking at that.

You know what I actually wondered? Yeah. I actually wondered if Alexi's like, I'm not going to get on. I wonder if Alexi's kept his skills up. I don't think you forget how to juggle. And I know that, I know Alexi can juggle. I know he can't. But you're actually now talking about, I mean, the way those guys manipulate the ball is out of sight.

Insane, right? So I actually wondered if Alexi's like, I'm not putting myself in this. I wouldn't. Are you kidding? Or, to your point, maybe he's not boys with him. And they're doing that in studio. I don't know. Yeah.

I don't know. I'm just here to tell you there's very few. I've been involved in studio settings at CNN, ESPN, Fox, and I've seen very few where, you know, there's true, like, I hate this guy. I don't like this guy. Get him away from me. There's a little bit, but everybody's pretty cordial with each other. Yeah. Especially when you've got to do this for a month.

I got to say this, though, too. When I think of American soccer, growing up in the 90s, like Alexei Lollis is the thing I think of. Because his hair. He's iconic. His goatee. Like growing up, that's when I got into soccer and what I thought about soccer. Everyone in my town, we had like a little hippie kind of Connecticut town. Everyone had long hair, all the seniors in high school during that.

You know, it was crazy. Big long goatees. Oh, yeah. It was so iconic. And I could literally picture him running around the field in my head. So, yeah, he's wonderful. He should bring it back. Okay, one more.

It's a badass look. Yeah. Fit in. Not the long hair, but the goatee. Well, you're still doing the goatee right now as we speak. Yeah, I know. He's just trying to bring it back. It's not working.

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I just saw this tweet. We've talked about it on the program, the UK gang rape story. which is getting no coverage, zero minutes of coverage on American mainstream media. The report that came out of the inquiry this week, 250,000 young women gang raped, repeated raped by largely Pakistani Muslim gangs in the UK. It's insane. Okay, this tweet under the moniker Ricky Vaughn, that was really good. Nobody is being gang raped.

Okay, so little girls are being gang raped, but it's not that many. Well, little girls are getting gang raped, and it's a lot, but it's not 250,000. It's only like 50,000. That's where we are with liberals. That's the tweet. And it's so true. When I saw that, for anybody that goes on about Epstein, I want you to think about this. First, it was a complete denial that this is a real story.

Then, okay, maybe it's a real story, but it's isolated. Then, okay, by the way, Pierce Morgan did this, said 250,000 is an absurd number. If it's right by a quarter, you are talking about, I think, shut it down type stuff. If it's 500. Shut down the country. Yes. Right. Like, what are you talking about?

Right. say 50,000 mature at 500. 500. Are you really telling me? You telling me that's not like a holy shit moment for your civilization? Yes. I mean, wake the hell up. And not like that.

It's not just these people are doing this. Like some of these stories that have come out, it's like the police were actively stopping people from stopping it. Or putting them Back's level insanity.

Putting them back in those situations. Yeah. Because of money? Okay, let's end on a, on a different note. Okay, I'm not prepared to do this. So this is on you guys, you're the producers. A couple of weeks ago, this came up. We were like, let's start doing a series.

And it's totally divorced from stuff that we normally do here. But somehow, I don't remember which one came up, but the idea is, whatever happened to. Whatever happened to this thing in American culture that was huge in one moment and now can barely be remembered.

And we were talking about different things. And I'm not talking about the Macarena. Okay? I'm more talking about, and we should come up a list, and we'd love our viewers and listeners to jump into the comment section and give us a list. Comments email,

Will Keene's show at Fox.com. whatever you want to do, guys. I'm going to give you an example. My age. Here's some things that we did. I made a list after if I could tell you. There was a phase where everybody wore Coca-Cola shirts. What?

Do you know what I'm talking about, the Coca-Cola shirts? No. Yes. Everyone. I think across the country. I don't think it was just Texas or a small-town Texas. They were rugby-style. They were rugby shirts, you know, with the white panel.

across the midsection and it had the Coca-Cola logo and everybody had to have it had to have it had to have one Z-Cavarici jeans I've heard that but I don't know

Z-Cavarici they were jeans that like if you extended them all the way they kind of did this they had a bunch of buttons it might come up to your navel but then you folded it I think you folded the denim So then it created the line, you know.

That sounds a little... Normal waistline. And then they were kind of baggy and they kind of tapered at the ankle. Z-caveridge. I never had a pair. Yeah. I was going to say. I looked at the other people that had those and I was like, they're way cooler than I am, man.

You know? Even hit Texas? So there's these things like that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. These things are out there. And the one that we decided we wanted to do is whatever happened to Fubu. Which is a little after me.

What years? Who's ready to do this for us? What years was Fubu the thing? So Fubu was officially launched in 1992 by Damon John, who was famous for Shark Tank. So you see him on Shark Tank. Right? It was the mid-90s. and they had this national explosion because they were picked up by Macy's and then they had L.O. Cool J. and a Gap commercial in 1997.

And so that's when it started become like this cultural phenomenon. I think I was living in Atlanta at the time. So like everyone was wearing it. And then the NBA actually started licensing with them in the late 90s. Big with hip-hop artists in the early 90s, mid-90s. Exactly. L.O. Cool. J. It's black culture. Yeah, yeah, it is.

L-O-C-R-U-S-B-U-S is the name. Right. Exactly. Fubu B-U-U-S-Bus. Yeah. Yep. L.O. Cool-Jay was a huge thing. Okay. Yep.

So obviously with Fubu, it's a success story. Even though it's no longer a thing of cultural relevance, Damon John must have killed it. I mean, he's on Shark Tank. Is he a billionaire? Um, I don't know if he's a billionaire. I know he has other things he dabbles in,

but the brand still exists. $350 million estimated net worth. Yeah, I didn't realize this until I was doing the research, but the brand actually still exists to this day. It does. And they're trying to push a relaunch recently. And he even identifies himself as the CEO of Fubu. Now.

So it's not still. Yes. out today. Everything 90s is coming back. It's smart. They over expanded in the early 2000s, which is why you saw a drop off, but it never really went away. Is that when they went into like Macy's or it was Macy's part of the success story?

Yeah. Like you know those brands that are edgy brands and then they go to the department store and they lose their edge. Yeah. And all of a sudden that's when they go away. Well, when white kids started wearing it too. I think it lost. Yeah.

You know, Under Armour, I saw Under Armour do that. Like Under Armour became huge and looked like it was going to compete with Nike. And then it felt like Under Armour went down to Dillard's for sale rack. Do you know what I'm saying? They made crap. It got two, it got too watered down, too widespread and lost all of its cultural prestige. Exactly.

That's what happened. It's like it's when you put too much out there, it starts to become less. It became an outlet brand. You saw them in outlets. Right. Like Fubu, you can get them half price. off on sales racks and stuff like that. They just had too much

product and for a short year time. Did you guys wear Fubu? Did you own any piece of Fubu clothing ever? I may have in middle school warrants Dan. Which I now realize is cultural appropriation. I should have done it, but it's okay.

What did you have, Dan? I had a sweatshirt, like one of those like non-hitted like baggy, baggy sweatshirts. It was light blue. Did it say Fubu? Oh, it said Fubu right across light blue with like white stroke to it. And so when you put that on it said, for us,

buy us. Did you think you were part of us? I wanted to be, I think. Did you also have cornrows? No. I had a shaved head. I played a, yeah. Yeah. I mean, the brand itself says,

not for you, Dan. I did not take the hand. I was only 12 or 13, so I didn't understand that part. Don't buy this sweatshirt, Connecticut White Boy. This is not for you. That makes it even worse. I'm not even from New York. If they had written that on the sweatshirt, it wouldn't have been any more plain than Fugge.

But I thought it was cool. It looked dope. You know, it was some big jank of jeans. Oh, man. Yeah, it was a time. Look, I'm not going to make fun of you, Dan. I went through a rap, hip-hop culture phase. I mean, I'm older than you, right?

But I'm not going to lie you. I never wore it out. But there might have been a time back in the day, seventh grade. I might have, like, put it on a pair of jeans backwards because Chris Cross were your jeans backwards. I wore Chris Cross backwards stuff. Do you remember that? Jump, jump, jump. Yeah.

I mean, what were we doing? Come on. That's for the artist. We were finding ourselves, man. We were finding ourselves. I need to remember that as a dad. I really need to remember that. Like, Will?

Do you need to remember what you did? I went through emo phase. That's fun. Don't worry about it. Did you do all the phases? I didn't do all the phases. There was no emo phase, no goth phase, no nothing like that for me. It was emo.

It was hip-hop. I think I went directly from hip-hop to cowboy. I don't think there was an in-between. I was probably a little preppy at times in there. But that was a pretty quick hip-hop. There's a rough country. It makes sense. There's a mix of genres and music.

I went from, like, hip hop to, like, emo rocker type when I was younger. That was my, that was my journey. And then hipster, after that? I'm pretty hipster in the early 2010's, the early aughts. And now I'm just going for the... When you were on American Idol, what phase were you in? Emo Rocker? That was hipster.

It was hipster. That was hipster for sure. Yeah. I mean, I still have the same here. He didn't look hipster to me. If you look up his American Idol's up, that doesn't look hipster. I had to dress up for that way. one that my mom told me to wear a shirt. I was going to say you had on skinny jeans.

Yeah. You own skinny jeans? Like what do you call those kind of boots? Chelsea boots? And then then you were wearing just like a button down, right? Or something like that? All the way up to the top, though. Your mom might have lost you by the way. I went all the way dressed like a hipster. Yeah. You might have gotten through. I should have dressed more down, I think. I think that really hurt me. I should have dressed like I was playing in the streets for the last five years. I think that would be yourself. That's 100% right. Yeah. You looked a little too polished a little to like pretty boyd. Absolutely.

And you sang Ed Sheeran, right? Yeah. Don't remind me. But yeah. So that's what you were doing. Like, you needed to butch it up a little bit, man. Yeah. But.

Yeah. Yeah, we all go through our faces. The lost artist on the streets of New York is the role you needed to play. Yeah. I was not playing. I was playing the Connecticut kid at that moment. All right. That's going to do it for us today here on Will King Country this Friday edition of whatever is on your mind.

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