Will Cain Country - 'No Kings' Shows Left's Calls To Violence (ft. Joey Jones)

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

Story #1: 'Off The Weekend,' Will unpacks the major stories from over the weekend, including Senator Alex Padilla (D-CA) being briefly detained by federal agents after rushing the stage at a DHS press conference, the unhinged political theater and escalating rhetoric of the 'No Kings' protests, and the assassination of a Minnesota lawmaker. Story #2: Joey Jones, Author of ‘Behind The Badge: Answering The Call To Serve On America’s Homefront’ & FOX News Contributor, joins Will to break down the escalating military situation between Israel and Iran. What does the end game look like for America? Story #3: Will and The Crew debate who the worst owners and ownership groups are in sports after the Boston Red Sox anger their fanbase by trading franchise cornerstone Rafael Devers to the San Francisco Giants.  Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, Senator Alex Padilla of California, detained, cuffed after barging in on DHS Secretary Christy Knoem. And now the left has their modern day Rosa Parks. No King's protest and a horrible story out of Minnesota with two Democrat senators, state representatives. murder. Where is all this violence coming from? Is it coming from rhetoric? Two, Israel and Iran, the latest, but also the big picture. What draws us in the United States with Joey Jones? Three, major trade in Major League Baseball. As some of us asking, has some of us asking, who's the worst ownership group in sports? It is Will Kane Country streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern time.

Make sure you hit subscribe at Apple or on Spotify or set a reminder over on YouTube that way you can join us every weekday. Friday's a weekday too, right? I mean, but it's funny. Friday, two days, two days, 10th. Well, Friday's interesting. I, uh, I don't know how you guys feel, especially in the summer. I actually work as much or more on Fridays, meaning I do this show. I do not a live version. We do a sports pod cane on sports every Friday. And we have the regular Will Kane show on Fox. And then like, I guess hosted Jesse Waters on Friday night. But it's got a general vibe to it. Like, hey, it's Friday. You know, it's not weekend. But, it's like gearing into the weekend, which might be gearing down, at least in how it feels,

if not in output. I know, but do you feel that way on Fridays? Like, I feel way more, I don't know, laid back. Well, you don't travel as much anymore on the weekends like you used to for years. That's true. So I feel like you can, you can chill and you know you're going to be home. So I feel like that helps a little bit. Welcome to Will Kane Country.

So you heard that there in the introduction. And you can see it in our graphics and imagery now. You know, this show is now Wilcane Country. That's right. And that's been a little bit in the making here for a couple of weeks. It's been decided, something that I agree with, that it's confusing having two shows named the same one, same exact name, Will Kane show. And it's been a mouthful for me to be like over on the Fox News Channel's 4 p.m.

Wilcane Show or the Wilcane Digital show, it has been a little bit unwieldy. So it was discussed, hey, we should probably differentiate here. I should probably do something. So with a lot of back and forth and some input from you, the listeners and the viewers, there was some discussion of, what was some discussions there was? well just go with willisha there was uh what was raw will can raw will can raw will can yeah there was that there was nooners a lot of people will came that's right yeah yeah the new year um

what was the uh cane something some one of our guests last week said um oh they were talking about they were talking about what's a name our uh Canaanites instead of Willisha. Oh, Canaanites. Yeah. That was Tim Young, yeah. Yeah. But it's Will Kane country.

And I like it. I like, I do. I like it. There's a brand new ad running on the Fox News channel. It's something. And it's one man, two hats, two shows. A baseball hat and a cowboy hat. Love it.

Yeah. I have a question. I have a question, though. I got Joey Jones here and I got you here. to have a southern accent now because we're will cane country do i have to change my accent so what do you think of and and you know bring the folks in bring the willish it when you hear do you think i'm are we playing off of like not urban but country or are we playing off the nation you know like hey we're a country is it what what is what is it that's here's my

utmost like the nation like country yeah yeah Not that it's my country. It's not possessive. It's just. That's what country. Yeah, Will Kane country. Like, I had to explain it. Like, it's Will Kane's country.

Like, it's his purview. It's his area. No. No, we're not doing that. Yeah. I'm not looking to be an authoritarian. It's too late. This isn't an hour of dictatorship.

This is an hour of inclusion. And I think country can be like, hey, you know, we all. We all, A, love this country, and B, I think everybody appreciates the country as opposed to, you know, the city. I think it's all of the above. The vibe, layback. I don't know. I'm good. I'm good.

I like it. But I'm certainly willing to hear your feedback, you, the Willish. So, but officially starting today, here we are, Will Cain Country. So welcome to the country. We're glad to have you with us. We appreciate you staying with us through this little change in the branding. I don't think it's a big shift, but it is what it is. So this is now Will Kane Country, and we should get to it with story number one.

Off the weekend, a lot has happened since we last got together, since we last spoke. I mean a lot. Going into Friday, I fully expected that the two shows that I hosted would be totally devoted to Senator Alex Padilla of California being detained by FBI when he barged in, and I'm going to choose my adjectives very, very intentionally, because there's a lot, oh, did he lunge at Christy Nome? Was he just asking a question? Depending on who describes it to you and their political affiliations and their leanings, their adjectives carry so much weight.

I think of very fair and accurate is he barged in. He barged in on a press conference where she was not taking questions. She was in the middle of a briefing about ICE operations in Los Angeles. And Senator Alex Padilla, and I'm going to be real with all of you, okay? I think, I don't know. I can name every state and every state capital. Pretty confident I could do that. You guys can test me on that later.

I may bat 90% on state capitals, but I think I could get all of them. could you name all 100 senators and i will tell you that i know my answer would have been no last friday because when this came up and my staff told me about it i said is he a state senator i mean i've never heard of alex padilla and i don't know how long he's been a senator in california but in my mind you know i know adam shift is one now i mean it was conma harris it was barbara a boxer. It was Diane Feinstein. When did he come on the scene?

So the point isn't just my ignorance, but the general recognition of Alex Padilla, I'm willing to bet really low. Certainly, if not by name, by face. So, late Thursday, he barges in on this press

conference for DHS Secretary Kristy Knot. And here's how it went down. Senator Alex Padilla, I have questions for the secretary because the fact of the matter is a half a dozen selling criminals that you're rotating on your heads off. So if you are listening on Spotify Apple or on radio, Alex Padilla is blurting out questions. He is being pushed backwards by two to three FBI and federal officials. He's escorted into the hallway pushed backwards.

He's fighting back. Not with his hands. He's, I mean, he's pushing. And they get him into the hallway, whereupon they get him on the ground. They do place cuffs on him. Ultimately, it's a short detention. And he ends up having a meeting with Christy Gnome

immediately thereafter for 10 to 15 minutes. The part of the video that we did not show you there, so two days, I don't know where we got that video from, but it doesn't show the beginning, where he comes in and he begins, to ask his question. And the way to describe this, if you're envisioning it in your mind, is she's up on stage at a podium, giving an address, he's on the side and starts walking forward, blurting

out questions. He does not. I mean, I think you can play by play this like a sports clip. He does not identify himself. That is a fact. Now, the clip you just heard, he does. But in the beginning, he does not. So he starts blurting out questions.

It interrupts everything everyone's doing. she stops and looks and her security and the federal law enforcement officers in the building immediately respond they go toward him now let's set a little bit of context on this you're talking about a an administration where the leader of that administration has had two attempts on his life two attempts on his life there is obviously heightened tensions and everyone is impassioned around this ice stuff right now the left is going to describe it that he was inside of a federal building he'd already gone through security and he's a united states senator who had a polo on this is what he said on msnbc that signified he was a united

state senator what they won't tell you is he had a jacket over that polo you couldn't see that and by the way i've never i mean you read the little logo the little small logo on people's polos i guess also the united states centers wear a pen normally to signify he didn't have that on but it doesn't matter he comes in and he starts walking i don't know if we're going to call it aggressively or what but He does walk with purpose towards the front of the room asking these questions. It's not until the FBI and agents approach him and put hands on him that he goes, I am Senator Alex Padilla, but it's too late at that point. It's too late.

Like, they are already made a decision. Whoa, this is something that appears threatening. We're going to remove this situation. No matter what he says after that, it isn't going to change it. They have already committed. And by the way, he's fighting back in terms of pushing forward, pushing forward while they're pushing backwards. Yelling out, I'm Senator Alex Padilla. It isn't going to change the equation at that point.

It did change the equation once they figured out who he was in the hallway and ended up have a meeting with Christy Knoem. And, you know, the left was running with this. They did. It got totally pushed out of the news cycle by the Israeli-Iran conflict that erupted on late Thursday night into Friday. Yeah, late Thursday night into Friday. But in the meantime, Democrats had totally gone with this as though it's a modern-day Rosa Parks Civil Rights moment, that this was an abridgment of the First Amendment, that he was simply asking a question.

And a talking point they all ran with was, if they can do this to a United States Senator, imagine what they're doing to people out there on the streets. Now, I don't know how you guys feel, two a days and ten-fo, but I think I'm being incredibly fair in my analysis of what had to go through those. agent's minds as that situation was unfolding. There was no intention to bar a United States Senator from asking a question. There was a reaction to the way a man was presenting himself in that moment. And once he tries to roll it back announcing he is Senator Alex Padilla, it's too late. The whole thing is already in motion. And I also think it should be said he knows all of

this. I think it was absolutely a political stunt. Christy Noam said he could have called me and asked me those questions whenever he wanted. He could have scheduled a sit-down meeting. He scripted this entire moment for a fact that the Democrats then ran with, and boy, did they. They marched down to the floor of the United States Senate. They marched down to the floor of the United States House of Representatives. They demanded action from John Thune. They demanded action. And it was the fulfillment because of this stunt in their mind of Donald Trump, authoritarian, usurping the checks and balances and going after the United States Senator. And it's all for show.

It is not supported by a fair analysis of the facts that went down there that day. That's what I think. I agree with that. I got an argument this weekend about that. People said, you know, they're being authoritarian. I said he knew exactly what was going to happen. He wanted a video clip. He wanted that to go in and wanted that exact thing to happen

so we can replay it and replay it and replay it and have a talking point about Christy Norm. Yeah, I think that's exactly right. And I don't know how much traction they got out of it again because I think the Israeli-Iranian burgeoning war washed it out. But it was an incredible piece of scripted political theater. Let's take a quick break.

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along with all your Brett Bear favorites like his All-Star panel and much more. Available now at Fox News Podcasts.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back. And so was No Kings Day. off the weekend we had no king's protest across dozens and dozens of u.s cities this weekend and it worked it worked we do not have a king today so the protests seemed to work we didn't have a king on friday we don't have a king on sunday and monday congratulations protesters you manage to ensure we still do not have a king i think it's pretty rich that this is coming from a

group of folks that literally did not hold a Democratic primary for president, replaced a sitting president against his will with a candidate that no one voted for, and attempted to take out a candidate for president was Donald Trump with lawfare for several years. It's pretty rich that they march under the banner of no king. And the stuff coming out of this is pretty incredible. Here's just some of the stuff that happened over the weekend. This shows the level of nonsense coming from this No King protest. This, if you're listening on radio or on podcast, is a man walking up to a booth.

I don't know that he had to pay for this with a woman who had a little doll of Donald Trump and you're allowed to abuse this doll to get it out of your system. Watch. Bad boy. Bad, fat, fat, fat, fat, bad. Bad! No. Really good.

You feel better? I feel crazy. I feel like a, what, a 75-year-old man. He's at a booth. It's five cents, it says, for therapy, anxiety therapy. And he takes his little doll of Donald Trump. Do you feel better? Beats it on a stool and yells, no, bad Trump.

No. She goes, do you feel better? He goes, I feel great. it's such sickness i mean can you imagine how far off the reservation of normalcy do you have to be for this to be something that ever enters your life i'll show you how far off listen to this another 70 year old woman talking about why she's at the no king's protest i just i just i'm just so scared i'm 74 years old i worry about everything And I just, I just, I just, I'm so scared and upset.

And I don't, and I don't understand why people didn't voted for this person. I mean, this is not a well person. This woman, and, I mean, they're not all baby boomers, but we got to address, like, what's going on with some of these baby boomers who have lost their ever-loving mind? and I know what's going on. They've been fed a steady diet of fearmongering for over 10 years. You're going to have people lose their minds over this. There's young people as well, so I don't want to just focus in on baby boomers,

but we're talking about a significant chunk of our population that is walking around with severe mental illness induced by media hysteria. Now, sadly, over the weekend, there's this story out of Minnesota as well, where a man dressed as a police officer, impersonating a police officer, he had security guard badge and car, went into the home, got access to home with two Minnesota state legislators and murdered one and her husband and the other two, suffering something like seven to nine gunshot wounds, are alive and in critical conditions. critical condition. But just an incredibly sad and scary story. Over the weekend, the fight has been is he motivated because he's a right winger or a left winger. Well, I'll tell you this, we don't know. None of this makes sense. And I can give you some of the details. He was appointed in Minnesota to some political advisory committees by Governor Tim Walts and his predecessor, Democrats. He had no Kings Flyers in his car. On the other hand, there's an interview with someone

who says he was his roommate at a halfway house, which is weird. The guy was married and had children, but he's living with a roommate in a halfway house. That roommate says he was an Info Wars fan and he voted for Donald Trump. And there was a list of other people he was going to assassinate, which included abortion providers and other Democrat politicians. I have no idea this man's story, none of it adds up. It's absolutely wild. But that has led to a conversation, people talking about violent political rhetoric and laying this on the doorstep of Donald Trump. Here is, is he still with NBC? Chuck Todd. He chose to be president of United States. Of all Americans, and I know he only wants to govern for his base, but this is a moment where if he doesn't do it,

we're on the precipice. In the last 48 hours, Tim Wals finds out two people he worked quite closely with were gunned down by an assassin. A slew of Democrats are on the list. Pretty much every elected official in Minnesota is scared assless. And Donald Trump says the following. I think he's a terrible governor. I think he's a grossly incompetent person, but I may, I may call him. It's pretty clear Donald Trump is not interested in lowering the temperature.

All right. So this is what I want to have a conversation about quickly here. And I do want tinfoil and two days jumping on this. Because I want to ask you listening and myself is, do I have some sort of partisan blinders on? Because it is true. The rhetoric in our political discourse has changed. And Donald Trump is coarser than previous politicians and prone to hyperbole.

He will say what Chuck Todd just said, that Tim Waltz is a terrible governor and he's incompetent. He will call Governor Gavin Newsom, Newskam, and incompetent. But I do not know. I don't think the evidence supports him ever calling or suggesting any of his followers to indulge in violence whatsoever. And so when I see Chuck Dodd calling on lowering the temperature of violent rhetoric, that doesn't inocuate a politician against criticism of his competency. So what are we talking about that Donald Trump needs to lower the temperature on?

give me the example but two days you got your lefty friends and they talked about it and you did told us on the call this morning so what are we talking about I mean I think there are like there could be

construed a lot of examples of this and they try to point them out I don't know them exactly right now as we're talking about them but it is that kind of hyperbole and not exact direct language that people can construe if someone's a crazy person

they could take that as well that person needs to go because Trump is saying that's a horrible person. It's kind of like the threat to democracy part that, you know, the left says about Trump. Oh, so that would match it then. That level of like, my opponents are terrible, Donald Trump would say, or even, let's take care it further, they will ruin a state, they will ruin a government, they will ruin a country. They're a threat to our country. okay that is a heightened rhetoric i will grant that matched or exceeded by claiming someone is a threat to democracy

right a threat to our way of life our form of government which the left is indulged in so you're laying this on the feet chuck todd as many at donald trump and yet i see no the other one i hear is people saying well he calls all immigrants criminals and rapists well i don't think he does call all illegal immigrants that he says a lot of them are it doesn't say all of them are i don't think so i don't what i'm getting at is they want to lay all at the doorstep of don't meanwhile meanwhile i have example after example after example of democrat politicians now indulging in things that are more obvious calls for violence watch this I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all of the country.

Maybe there will be. People need to start taking to the streets. This is a dictator. You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives. Enemies of the state. Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful. Do something about your dad's immigration practices, you feckless. When they go low, we kick.

How do you resist the temptation to run up and bring her neck? Biggest terror threat in this. country is white men most of them radicalized right up to the right i thought he should have punched him in the faces even if you lost he insulted your wife yes later and called mexicans rapists emerged he said what do you think i should have done i said i think you should punch him in the face and then gotten out of the race you would have been a hero i'd like to punch him in the face i said if we're in high school i'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him punch some people in the face when is the last time an actor assassinated the president

And by the way, that rhetoric seems to have been accepted. How many pieces of actual violence have we now seen by people either championed by the left or mimic left? Two attempts on President Donald Trump's life. That right there should be case closed. Two Israeli diplomats working at the Jewish diplomats work at the Israeli Museum of Washington. murdered recently outside on the streets outside what whatever luigi mangione's ideological underpinnings are he has been championed by many on the left we can come up with example after example and i challenge you what is the reverse what is the reverse and everyone's going to

always say january 6th what they do they bring up january 6 not to mention firebombing teslas not to mention destruction of public property, which is happening all weekend long, all over America. And I'm really genuinely asking, show me your conversant, your, show me your examples on the other side. Tell me what you're talking about that Donald Trump is doing to ratchet up rhetoric to the point of violence. And be honest, compared to what you just heard, and compared to what's happening, who's accepting the invitations. I'm not. not, Seniors say, the goal of my conversation is not, oh, one side good, one side bad. But an honest assessment of the political temperature of where we exist today, where I've got

insane 70-year-olds beating a doll of Donald Trump, out of their minds with mental health saying, I'm so scared, I'm so scared. We're living in a dictatorship. We're going to lose democracy. Firebomb a Tesla. Destroy a federal building. And encouraging people to punch others in a face or have an uprising in the street. And I'm really here to ask you, what are you talking about, Chuck Todd? What are you talking about? Drop into the comment section. I want to hear of you. What are you talking about when you say we got to turn down the rhetoric? All right, let's break this down. Plus, the big events over the weekend, Iran and Israel. What predicate the involvement of the United States when we come back with Joey Jones on Wilcane Country.

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on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Joey Jones is the author of Behind the Badge Answering the Call to Serve on America's Homefront. The book comes out tomorrow. I didn't realize, Joey, by the way, you're sitting there right there in studio, and we don't have that long with you before you have to get to your next hit. I just saw that information.

So you just let us know when you have to go, man. Okay? Yeah, we got a few minutes. Okay, cool. Book comes out tomorrow. That's exciting. Yeah, I'm real excited. If you know anything about my first book, I talked about my buddies that I served with.

This book is about first responders that are family and close friends. And I just think that every story is absolutely remarkable. And what's cool about it, the very first chapter is, ordinary guy in extraordinary situations the takeaway is that these guys are from small towns for the most part and they have these amazing stories and these stories are just everywhere they're in the lives of people around you all right we check that out uh starting tomorrow foxnews books um where always everywhere else you can get your books it is probably on shelf

behind the badge all right um okay so i'm going to go through some questions i want to talk to you about israel and ron for a moment joey And I want to start with U.S. involvement. Now, I'm going to be highlighting this a little bit later on the Wilcane show, but the presence of American troops throughout the Middle East. We have bases in UAE, in Qatar, in Iraq. We are participating in defensive measures for Israel. Are you concerned at all that there could be an event?

And I've been asking around, Joey, that the missiles Iran is launching at Israel are precision-guided. They're not randau. So the idea of an accident happening doesn't seem highly likely in terms of hitting American targets. But are you concerned right now for American assets, American military, American personnel over there that could draw us into this conflict? I'm not concerned for them being intentionally targeted. No. I don't know what American assets are being mobilized in defense of Israel inside of Israel or inside of some of the neighboring countries. Yeah, spoken to folks at the Pentagon, spoken to folks in Israel.

I've got good friends in Israel that are there taking care of ordinance that was left over from October 7th, that are civilians. They've been watching. They understand ordinance, missiles, rockets better than most people. And the guys in Tel Avivir are saying, hey, this iron dome thing is pretty awesome. He's like, but there's moments where it slows down. And so has Iran figured that out? I think there's a little bit of chess, not checkers, going on here when it comes to, trying to understand what Iran is trying to do.

I think the whole thing is pretty simple, man. I don't think it's World War III because who has the incentive for that? I mean, the leverage Trump has over Putin is, okay, well, if you go in on Iran, then we're going to do more in Ukraine, Ukraine, make that harder for you. The leverage Trump has over China is you need our money, or at least our debt and our trade, and he's already working that. I don't think either one wants Iran to be stronger. I think it's one of those like it's slightly beneficial to have Iran be messing with things in the Middle East.

But China's kind of getting what it's looking for already in Africa and in the Middle East. And I'm sure Russia would like more, but they've created their own big problem. So then it's really U.S. involvement as far as how do they scare away other Arab nations from continuing down this track that Trump literally just went over there and did a tour to try to make, which is make business deals, make more money together, get closer to Israel. So I think like the biggest effect the U.S. is having and Trump is leading it is keeping the other Arab nations out of it. And I think as long as it is a Israeli military against Iranian military fight, it'll stay that way. Yeah, I get the same sense. Like, World War III, you have to, excuse me, you have to talk about alliances.

And the alliances of Russia and China with Iran seem marriages of convenience that can help each other out in some ways. But I'd be surprised to see Russia and China and or China running to the defense of Iran. Now, if somehow Europe were more involved in what's going on with Israel, it's where you have a stronger connection between what's happening in Ukraine and Iran, then maybe. I mean, maybe if Putin just needed the ally of Iran to distract and take away forces. But, I mean, from what I understand, Israel is fighting this war while simultaneously continuing their operation in Gaza. So if it's not overtaxing the Israeli military, then why would U.S. troops or U.S. offensive weapons get involved? I think the biggest sticking point is do we outfit Israel with capabilities they don't already have, but do we know they don't already have them, or is that just the speculation?

I mean, Israel doesn't even tell you if they have nukes or not, right? So, I mean, we don't know what they have. Well, the American public doesn't know. Yeah. A couple things I want to hit with you really quickly. To extent that you know, the exes knows in this, it does appear Iran's response to Israel has been less than even Israel anticipated. Yes. There are some missiles that have gotten through the Iron Dome. There has been, I believe it's a dozen Israelis who have been killed. Two dozen, I think. Is it two dozen? I believe this morning. So the question, the question is why. Why is Iran's response been less than expected and anticipated? And you got a couple of options, it seems like. The initial Israeli attack on missile depots, missile capabilities, launching capabilities in Iran was effective and took a lot out.

That's one option. Option two is Iran is staging this out over a period of time. The theory being that the Iron Dome does have an arrow interceptor and everything else they have does have a finite capability. So in other words, you could exhaust it like ammunition. You know, you could exhaust their capability to continue to launch countermeasures. And then Iran launches its – Israel says as well, they still have thousands of missiles, Iran. So do they wait?

Are they trying to overwhelm it over a period of time and then launch it all? What do you make of Iran's response right now, not meeting what everybody thought? There's an option three. The option three is President Trump's called Iran and told them you don't want this fight. You want to survive this fight because if you actually fight this fight, we'll destroy you. I mean, that is an option. And I think it's as likely as any. I mean, I think if what we at Fox have reported is completely true,

which is President Trump vetoed the assassination of the leader of Iran, that's leverage. And if you don't think he's using it, you're not paying attention. I don't even think that's the question, though. I don't think the question is, why is Iran doing what it's doing? I think the question is simple. I think it's a lot simpler than anyone's talking. The question is, does Israel believe that the current people in charge of Iran will always pursue nuclear weapons and will always fund terrorists that seek to hurt or destroy Israel?

Because if that's what they believe, why even start this if you're not going to finish it? Why even be in this position if your intent isn't to finish it? So President Trump, maybe there's a good cop bad cop here with President Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu, I'm not sure, on the public stage. This idea that Benjamin Netanyahu say, we're going to go to war and win this thing. And President Trump's like, let's get back to the negotiation table. That's the public comments of both. But if Israel truly believes this is a fight they're going to eventually have and there's no way out of it other than to destroy the regime in Iran, then what is their incentive to not continue until they do? And if that is their goal and Iran knows that, then Iran's best really play here is to negotiate with President.

Trump. And maybe that's where we are. Do you think Israel can, so then there's the issue of the United States involvement. If Israel's goal is regime change in Iran, can they do that without the United States? I don't think they're already not doing it without the United States. I think that's another thing people are glossing over. President Trump's diplomacy right now is huge. It is probably the only reason why Israel felt empowered to do this. I'm not saying that President Trump condoned it, but his words to Iran and keeping the other Arab nations out of this fight is probably why Israel felt in power to do this. Number two, we're already activating

defensive measures on behalf of Israel. We're already shooting down or continuing to monitor and help Israel identify incoming missiles, and I believe we are shooting some down. That's what the defense secretary told me the other day. Our troops in the region are a part of how we are involved in this, not just their vulnerability, but the possibility of them being involved, those assets. I mean, we've got, I think at least one fleet. I can't remember the total naval assets, but we've got more military assets really close to Iran than the majority of countries in this world have altogether. And so I think it's a little bit academic to say if the U.S. isn't involved. Is it Israeli uniforms? Offensively? Yeah.

Well, okay, like, is the U.S. killing Iranians? Well, how much of what Israel's already shot towards Iran was supplied by the U.S. I mean, that's the same argument that we use against Iran. So I think for all practical purposes, we are fully involved. Now, we don't want to be the ones that pulled the trigger that kills an Iranian, even fighter jet pilot, I don't think. Because that is bad PR. But as far as Iran's leadership goes and their perspective, the U.S. is fully involved. And I don't think that's going to change. I don't think it'll, I don't think we'll be,

I don't think we're going to start taking things away from Israel as long as Israel is decisively winning and other countries aren't involved. Now, does that mean that Qatar isn't blowing up the phone to President Trump? Probably. I mean, Israel hit an oil field that Qatar owns with us or the Iranian side of it. So there are some complexities. But I think that President Trump's impact right now is keeping this a on paper Israeli-Iranian fight and making sure Israel has what they need. And I think that's what we're doing. Okay. So then the, so the situation you just described could in equal measure exactly the same be applied to Ukraine and Russia, right? So everything you described, we're doing with Ukraine. We're supplying them. We may not be pulling the triggers.

I think that we may not be shooting stuff down ourselves. That might be short. I think a couple things. One, we don't have near the military assets or in the, like, we don't have near the military assets that we're using and utilizing and postured and positioned in defense of Ukraine that we do in defense of Israel right now. Like, I think it's pretty much understood on the international stage that if Iran struck Israel or a military base in a meaningful way or in a way that hurt Americans, because we have a crap ton of Americans in Israel. As a matter of fact, the area around the conflict. was just hit, that we would be less than reluctant to get involved in, and President Trump has sent missiles into Iran. So that's different than Russia. I think it's completely different. And in Ukraine, we have this argument that Europe should go first. And we don't have that

in Israel. What are we going to say that Saudi Arabia should go first? We don't have that other actor and other partner in Israel. How do you think this plays out? And also, Russia's nuclear power and as far as we know Iran isn't. And that's huge. Right. How do you think this plays out? Do you think this does end up in regime change in Iran? I don't know.

I think that's between, I hate to say it, I think that's largely decided by President Donald Trump. I really do. I think that if Israel, I think if we answer that question, which I didn't have a chance to ask anyone who would have insight, no, that simple question. Does Israel believe the only way this fight truly ends is regime change? That's the question that needs to be answered to know how it plays out. I believe or think or have concluded that Israel thinks that's the only way this plays out. And I think if that's what they're going for, I don't know that President Trump's going to stop him. And I don't know why he would.

Now, it might be advantageous to publicly say that's not what I want because you do have Qatar and Saudi Arabia and other countries in the area that he's trying to get close to and get closer to Israel. Joey, is your experience in war the same that I've heard from a lot of guys, Jason Redmond, Tim Kennedy, in that on the field of battle, you have known very well that Iran is attacking Americans. A little bit the same way what you just described the other way, meaning you know guys you were fighting, were armed, shooting stuff from given by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. not directly but like in Iraq al-Qaeda wasn't a group of Iraqis or even the Taliban Al-Qaeda was an international organization and when we were fighting folks in Iraq we had doctors lawyers chemist scientists Muslim true believers on jihad from countries all over this world coming there to fight us the belief is and I've never seen the factual evidence in front of me that Iran was facilitating a lot of that, and especially in Afghanistan,

we had a lot of material coming across the border from Syria and in belief is it got there through Iran. So I can't tell you a model number of a piece of ordinance that I know was manufactured in Iran, but when we lock down ammonium nitrate from making it into Afghanistan in every legitimate way, yet several tons of it is still coming in through the Syrian border, how did it get to Syria? That's how you trace things back to Iran.

all right man um i know you got a busy day i know you got the book coming out tomorrow and i know we ran late getting to you today but i appreciate the time we have with you and uh we'll let you get out there yeah man thanks for having me on and congratulations on the new show i'm i'm wondering about the country part too like i was wondering if that was like you're gonna have a pearl snap and cowboy boots on every time you do it or if it was you know more of a all-encompassing country so i guess we'll have to i think all-encompassing well i'll just have to watch and find out i got to be careful here i've got to be careful here before i turn into a cartoon you know I saw the two-hack commercial a few minutes ago.

Uh-huh. You want to go ahead and tell me what you think? You want to just lay it out there? It was in passing. It caught my eye because I was like, why has you got a cowboy hat? Why has he got a regular hat? What's going on? But I didn't see all of it.

I saw like a clip of it while I was passing. I mean, you look nice walking down the hallway. Okay. Thank you, man. Yeah. You can always say what you got to say. You look appropriate in either outfit. How about that?

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It is Will Kane Country streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel on the Fox News Facebook page. Hit subscribe at Apple or on Spotify. All right, real quick, we've got this. So there's a whole article in the Atlantic on Trump's violent rhetoric. now I'm going to tell you something I'm skeptical at the start because do you know one of the examples here

two a days very fine people on both sides right there it's a bad start I'll admit that that's a bad start I didn't write this article I'm just saying I just passed it along there's a lot

okay I'm just going to randomly pick stuff because I'm scrolling through it I'm your warrior I'm your justice and for those have been wrong and betrayed I'm your retribution Okay I just think the punching in the face thing

Like Biden said that He does have one Yeah He said that about a protester Yeah which is like Right That's not going to incite someone To cause harm or kill somebody

You know what I'm saying On both sides I don't effing care That they have weapons They're not here They're not here to hurt me Who's he talking about? Well if you're soft

That's pretty violent I don't know what that's in reference to these are also some of these are anonymous quotes that I mean it's not things he said some of them like okay and I'll tell you something that's the way it has to be there has to be retribution

when you have a crime like this from a Fox News interview so like using the word retribution is violent rhetoric I mean where do we draw the line is the question because anything could be construed that way if you have the if you view it that way or are hearing it from a certain person

I have the support of the police the support of the military the support of bikers for Trump I have the tough people they don't play it tough until they get to a certain point and then it would be very bad very bad I mean that's insane that's assuming that he would use that it's assuming that you'd use force that's all well he's not saying he would he's saying these people would. Sure, but why say it? I do think you... Maybe I'm equivocating here.

But I think he does that. He, like, makes a prediction. And then you read it as a promise, you know? The only point is you can read anything as anything. Really? You know? So on either side, I mean, a lot of the stuff in the montage we played

is pretty damning of the left saying those things. That's pretty crazy. A lot of those. He has one says, to punch him in the face 2016 about a protester who disrupted a Las Vegas rally. Who wouldn't?

Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm willing to say some of it. If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you seriously, okay? Just knock the hell. I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise.

Hey, he's going to pay for the legal fees. That's fine. yeah i mean i i will submit he has he has used hyperbole he's coarsened i do not think even with what i'm reading i mean i don't think he's calling for mass violence out there um and the stuff that i played like you said i think goes further i do i think it goes further agreed we'll have to see how this plays out in minnesota what this whole story is about but it is a a game that everybody plays and it's an inappropriate game whose feet are you laying

this at you know yeah but can you get to figure out with this guys can you just I was having this conversation can you just chalk it up to a crazy person and not have it be this whole divisive country talk can it just be a

crazy person that gets an idea in their head absolutely you know absolutely but we don't know that that's this guy's story either yet I mean it is a lot of stories pointee or for sure for sure yeah But that's the risk on this stuff, is who accepts your invitation?

Crazy people. Sure. Right? Unless you start making people crazy. And that's where we go back to the No Kings thing. I mean, those people have been made crazy. That doesn't mean they're about to be violent, even though they're beating a Donald Trump doll against a stool. But there's no rationing with them.

Yes. Rationalizing? Rationalizing. Reasoning. Thank you. I, yeah, but I think. I think there's definitely, you have to always allow it. There's just crazy people sometimes.

That's it. It does seem like everybody's going crazy. It does seem like that. I do feel like I'd be a little less angry if I had a doll of my enemy that I could beat against something. Like a voodoo doll? Something like that. I don't know. Not a Trump doll, but something.

What about dartboard? Do you really think it would make you feel better? I'm being serious. Like, are you being funny or do you think that would do something for you? Like, I'm just being funny. I don't think that would do anything for me. do you do you do you exercise tinfoil the 6-2 frame is just

you know how am i supposed to i think it would make you feel better i do think it would make you feel better punching a bag putting somebody's face on the bag you know you print out a picture does that make you feel better and only the exercise component of it like what does that do for you to hit an inanimate object and pretend that it's somebody else does it really do anything for you emotionally i think so there's some Something to be said about an emotional release.

Yeah, of course. I mean, it's a chemical reaction that's happening in her brain. With anger, sadness, happiness, it's definitely going to help you. You can trick your brain into believing anything. Sure. I mean, like, if you believe that you're punching that person, you know, with a picture on a punching bag. Or the dart board, where you're throwing the dart at it. Getting a similar benefit, I was...

Or you're just happy with Schadenfreude, and then you're okay with it. Then you just see things happen, and you don't have to do anything about it. You guys are way more angry than I am. You know, it's funny. People sometimes have accused me of being angry. I'm not angry. I don't need to hurt or pretend that I need to hurt somebody. We're still young men.

I really don't. We're still angsty. We're still angsty young men. Yeah. Oh, that's what it is. My testosterone's love. Use some high tea medication. I'm not just kidding.

All right. I'm going to let you do a lot of the lifting here, tinfoil. So the story is Raphael Devers traded from the Boston Red Sox to the San Francisco Giants. He is a 30-year-home run hitter. And one of the best players for the Boston Red Sox that it seemed like they were building their team around. Traded for a bunch of guys, honestly, I don't know. That's the truth. Harrison's a pitcher that seems to have some upside.

But that's not the story as much as it. is Boston is supposed to be a big market team, and everybody's upset. They're not behaving like a big market team. They're not spending money. They're not building a team like everybody expects them to. And now they're asking questions about the Finway Sports Group. I even saw Bill Simmons, noted Boston Red Sox fan, upset that Liverpool had just spent something like $150 million pounds, euros, whatever, for a player that I'm familiar with, Florian

works from germany and acted like well if finway sports group can afford this why can't they afford to fund a team in boston which by the way i don't think that's accurate that's apples and oranges each team has their own accounting and book sheet but you've asked the question tinfoil therefore who's the worst ownership group in sports and i guess what people in boston are thinking they're in the running they're saying that i mean they went from you you know, being up there in the top three or three to five teams every year, competing for top free agents and things like that going back 25 years ago. I mean, look, you look at Manny Ramirez signing.

They were one of the first teams to go over $100 million for a player. Now they're kind of a middle of the pack team payroll-wise. So, you know, he was, Devers was one of the last stars, that 2018 team that won the World Series. And they traded off two of the major pieces. Boggerts and Moogie Betts because they didn't want to pay a lot of money for those guys. So, you know, Red Sox fans are angry over it. And then, you know, to give up Devers after, you know, signing a guy in free agency to a lot of money at the same position. It just makes people wonder.

Yeah, they mismanaged their league players. Absolutely. Yeah, he's locked up until he's 36 years old. They could have had him. but he's had a falling out with the team as well like he he didn't want to change positions when they signed Alex Bregman it sounded like there was a lot of other things

with him and the team as well but maybe this guy doesn't need to be around here for another eight years sure um but it makes you wonder like why not invest in bets or Boggerts instead if you know those guys were at higher premium positions than a third baseman and only to just go and sign a guy for the same position of the superstar that you kept.

It doesn't make any sense, you know, as far as management goes. But can't be as bad as the Oakland A's. I'll tell you that. That's what I was going to say. John Fisher. If you're thinking about the worst ownership, if you're working about thinking about the worst ownership group in sports, you've got to start focusing on teams that are never competitive because of the ownership group. Never.

Yeah. Yes. Right. Don't spend. Don't hire expensive or good coaches. Relocate, abandon their fan base. Yeah. And there's plenty of franchises in all sports where your ownership group is the reason that you're not good. I mean, to defend the owners a little bit, you buy these things and they're totally divorced from economic models that make sense. And I think sports fans, specifically sports journalists love to cover. crush owners because hey they're rich guys you know and they it's constant and it's a labor versus

management dynamic that is constantly um has your media on the side of labor right but anybody that owns anything doesn't like to lose money they don't and rich people don't like to lose money any more than poor people and there's a reason they got rich because they didn't like to lose money. Now, if we're arguing that sports franchise ownership is only at this point a vanity play, it's a luxury item that you buy and you've got to accept the premise that you're going to lose money on it to some extent. Okay, I just don't know how many, you're going to have to find however many different groups. And everybody says, oh, well, they make money when they sell it. Well, yeah, but that is a game of musical chairs that you wonder, when does that come to an end?

You just always find another rich person that's willing to lose money on a year-in-year-out basis. My point is, I defend an ownership group that says, hey, at a minimum, I got a break-even. I got to break even on this deal, right? But I think there are plenty of ownership groups who are happy to run a model of no growth. You know, we're going to stay right here, and we're never going to reap the benefits of actually being better. And there are financial benefits to getting better. Why would they do that? Why what?

Why would you just want to, you know, not try to get better and make these ridiculous moves that are seemingly on the outside stupid? It's high risk. I mean, if you're a smaller market and you go all in and you're paying, you know. James Dole. Well, yeah. I mean, to me, it's like I do want to judge, you know, like the Pittsburgh Pirates Ownership Group or the Oakland Athletics,

you know, you can see like why. they wouldn't do as good a job, you know, supporting their teams just because of the cost. But it's like, you know, a big market like New York, those owners, it's like you have, you know, an expectation and that they're not reaching. Whether they're being seen or just not running. So with New York, the Mets, who by the way are really good right now, right, they can't be accused of not trying. They've signed big free agents. They've done that. And it hasn't worked for the Mets.

So, I mean, do you give extra credit? They don't get credit. They never give credit to the Mets ownership group. They call them incompetent for spending money and it not working. Yeah. So it's like a no-win situation. Right, but they do sign guys that just don't perform. What about ownership that, you know,

prioritizes, like, making money over performing well and winning championships? Like, who is that? Who is that? I was reading a list of glazers from Manchester United are being accused of that. But see, fans always accuse, there's so much going wrong with Manchester United. I mean, just tons of incompetent. They spend money.

Manchester United signs players all the time, and then they don't work out. So, I mean, you can indict competency of management, but I don't think you can indict, well, they're not spending enough, not trying hard enough. You know, there's an example in Jacksonville. We have one of the richest owners in the NFL who spends money, and I think he's doing his best. You know, it's not like it's a lack of effort, but he just isn't finding the right fit.

And it's like he'll try, you know, a former Super Bowl winning coach, and that doesn't work out. And then he'll try one of the best coaches in college football. That goes, you know, completely haywire. And, you know, it's like now he's trying, you know, a young up-and-coming offensive coordinator who doesn't have a lot of experience. And it's like, you can do this in college football. Yeah. You can do this in college football. Texas A&M has spent tons of money, tons of money, and it didn't translate on the field.

It's like money doesn't solve at all, but I know we get mad at the teams that don't spend it. As a fan, here's what I want from my owner. I do want an owner that I feel like is trying his best to get players, trade, draft, and free agency to make them a winner. I am, as a fan, I accept who you are. So, like, you're a Jacksonville fan. And the NFL is different because it's a salary cap league. Baseball, college football. This is a different equation.

But so college football is our best example. You have to accept who you are. And you don't sit there and go, why don't we spend like Ohio State? You can't play that game. You know that that's not who you are. And so if you're Pittsburgh Pirates fan, I don't think you can expect them. to spend like the New York Yankees.

And you probably don't. So does that mean you have a bad ownership group? You have play small ball. Football's harder. Be creative. Football's harder because it's a salary cap league. I mean, it's easier to look at an ownership group and go, what's going on with you? Yeah.

You know. Spending on quarterbacks that don't work out. I actually found out with research from a story a couple weeks ago that baseball changed their rules for drafting. And so you can't even tank anymore. Like Astros, even though they're in a larger market. Yeah. They tanked and got a lot of.

quality players but if you tank like the third year you can't pick in the top 10 anymore so like even those small market teams they have this giant chasm of payroll and they can't even like win through the draft necessarily unless they're you know well put a button on this i have a hard time feeling bad for people from boston and nothing against you but or yankee fans you've you've won a ton okay your celtics your Patriots, even your Red Sox, yes, you've won a ton. And now we're also supposed to feel bad for you because you traded away, Devers. I'm having a little bit of trouble, sympathizing with Boston.

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