Will Cain Country - OutKick's Bobby Burack! Vice President Harris BOMBS '60 Minutes!' PLUS, Gov. DeSantis Calls Her Out Over Hurricane Milton

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

Story #1: '60 Minutes,' 'The View,' 'Call Her Daddy,' Stephen Colbert. Vice President Kamala Harris' media blitz is in full force. Will she be able to withstand the awareness of the average American?... Story #2: Will and Outkick Columnist Bobby Burack answer questions from you, the listener. Plus, an honest look at the state of the election. Story #3: Did Aaron Rodgers force the firing of his head coach, or was this political? The crew discusses the real reason the New York Jets fired Head Coach Robert Saleh Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One, 60 Minutes, The View, Call Her Daddy, Howard Stern, Stephen Gulpair. The Kamala Harris Media Blitz is in full force. How's it going? Now they're getting to know her. Well, Americans like Kamala Harris. Two, a mail bid bag with outkick, columnist, Bobby Barrett. Three.
Starting point is 00:00:34 More than an observation, less than a theory, why suddenly was head coach Robert Sala fired by the New York Jets. It is the Will Kane Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Always on demand by subscribing. If you're listening on Terrestrial Radio at Apple or on Spotify, you can have the Will Cane show right there on your phone whenever and however you choose to listen. If you want to join us every live every Monday through Thursday, just hit subscribe on YouTube to the Willcane show, which does stream live at Fox News.com. But if you subscribe to the Willcane show, you can get notifications and subscriptions, jump into the comments, become a part of our community here.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Become a member of the Willisha. Outkick columnist Bobby Burrack joins us later today. He's going to bring you into you. to the show. Some of the questions that have come in, for me, we can take and answer. And we'll also address one of the most interesting controversies, sort of flying under the radar because it has nothing to do with either presidential candidate, nothing to do with Kamala Harris, nothing to do with Donald Trump, but an interesting media controversy at CBS. We'll get into all that, plus Robert Sala a little bit later with Bobby Burrack here on the Will Kane show. But let's get into
Starting point is 00:02:00 A new page that has been turned in the race for president. Something has changed this week. And it is that we are all of a sudden seeing more, more and more and more of of Kamala Harris. Story number one. Today, Tuesday, we seem to be about 24 hours out from landfall of Hurricane Milton hitting Florida. what was at one time a category five hurricane has now been downgraded to a category four but there are even discussions about whether or not it could re-energize up to something that does not exist which is a category six regardless it's the storm surge has been described to me and you really have never seen i haven't seen so many meteorologists so concerned at the outset ahead of a storm as they have been with milton it's about the storm surge it's about 12-foot sea rises around tampa
Starting point is 00:02:57 Bay. It's been described to me by Fox and Friends chief meteorologist Rick Reichmuth that think of Tampa Bay like a catcher's mitt. Everything flows in and then it has nowhere to go. All that water gets pushed into Tampa Bay and has nowhere to go but up and on to land. So you're looking at like 12 foot storm surges. Everyone has been warned to leave. The mayor of Tampa Bay has said if you stay you will die. There is also, sadly, a political fight taking place. Of course, it starts with Helene and is now metastasizing into Milton. Kamala Harris, for her part, came out and said that Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida was politicizing a storm, why he wouldn't take her call. Of course, there's a lot of criticism about FEMA, about the federal government's response to Helene in
Starting point is 00:03:46 North Carolina. And she painted a picture that Ron DeSantis was placing politics above saving Floridians. Well, that was interesting when we first got to hear from Ron DeSantis last night on Hannity. I want you to listen to the governor of Florida. For Kamala Harris to try to say that my sole focus on the people of Florida is somehow selfish, is delusional. She has no role in this. In fact, she's been vice president for three and a half years. I've dealt with a number of storms under this administration. She has never contributed anything to any of these efforts. And so what I think is selfish
Starting point is 00:04:24 is her trying to blunder into this. He's the first one who's trying to politicize the storm and she's doing that just because of her campaign. She's trying to get some type of an edge. She knows she's doing poorly and so she's playing these political games. I don't have time for political games. Now the details that I found most fascinating about that interview
Starting point is 00:04:46 didn't survive that cut here today on the Wilcane show. And they are as follows. heard Hannity say, has she ever called you before during those storms? DeSantis says, no. Then DeSantis reveals he's had multiple calls and he is in contact with President Joe Biden and, of course, the director of FEMA. So having no history through three and a half years of Kamala Harris ever reaching out during a natural disaster, nor playing any important role in the response, recovery,
Starting point is 00:05:16 or preparations for a natural disaster, and instead going to the top, in dealing with FEMA and Joe Biden, I ask you, who is politicizing Hurricane Milton? Kamala Harris suddenly wanting to connect for the first time in an entire administration. Wanting to connect with Ron DeSantis? Or Ron DeSantis focused on the job at hand with Floridians and connecting with her boss,
Starting point is 00:05:44 the one who currently is not running for president, Joe Biden. That's a much fuller and more interesting picture about who's playing politics with Hurricane Milton. Now, another storm we're currently weathering is the media blitz for Kamala Harris. In the past couple of days, we have seen Harris appear on 60 Minutes, call her daddy today, this morning, The View, and tonight, CBS is Stephen Colbert. Her running mate Tim Waltz has appeared on 60 Minutes, Fox News Sunday. day regardless of what you think of these appearances we're going to get into informing you on what
Starting point is 00:06:27 to think of Kamala Harris it represents a turn of the page a change in strategy that there is no doubt for the past two months the Harris campaign has lived in a bubble it has been protected it has strove for a lack of exposure at least for lack of controlled or uncontrolled controlled exposure. They're happy to speak from a podium. They're happy to speak at a rally. But they weren't interested in putting her in environment. Not so much I would even say that represents the potentiality for adverse questions, but that rather even requires her to think off the top of her head, shoot from the hip, to think in real time, because they have understood that to be a weakness. But obviously, something has changed. Some internal polling has suggested
Starting point is 00:07:18 you got to get out there, we've got to get you into mass media. Now I said, not necessarily into adversarial environments. I mean, that is not what's represented with Call Her Daddy or Howard Stern or Stephen Colbert. And you would say it's not even what is represented when you appear on the view. But whether or not it's adversarial or simply mass exposure, it doesn't seem by any stretch of the imagination like it's going well for Kamala Harris. This is her today on the view. Would you have done something differently
Starting point is 00:07:54 than President Biden during the past four years? There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of, and I've been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact. Now, this is fascinating. Have you noticed, if you watch Kamala Harris' interview on 60 Minutes, You see this answer on the view. I appreciate someone who appears to be unscripted, authentically thinking.
Starting point is 00:08:25 There's a glimmer of panic in Kamala Harris's eyes when she recognizes I now have to think. Right there in that moment, and I'm shocked that it came from the view. It came from Sonny Hosten. It's not adversarial. But it's a good question. It is actually a really good question. You see, Kamala Harris is running as a change candidate. She's running as something new.
Starting point is 00:08:57 She's running to not represent incumbency. And you can understand why. According to CNN's Harry Inton, only 25% of Americans feel like the country is on the right track. That's really bad for an incumbent. But despite trying to represent joy, Kamala Harris, in reality, represents incumbency.
Starting point is 00:09:21 She represents the last four years and 75% of Americans don't feel good about the last four years. And in this unscripted moment on the view, she's forced into a position to think and she has to come up with an answer that is not change. It is more.
Starting point is 00:09:44 it is incumbency no i wouldn't do a single thing different than joe biden that is a campaign ad for donald trump we saw something similar on 60 minutes this requirement to think and i will once again give credit this time to 60 minutes and their reporter bill whittaker for challenging comla harris and it was so fascinating to see her think in real time and listen to her here again with 60 minutes on illegal immigration
Starting point is 00:10:21 there was an historic flood of undocumented immigrants coming across the border the first three years of your administration as a matter of fact arrivals quadrupled from the last year of President Trump
Starting point is 00:10:38 was it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies as much as you did. It's a long-standing problem. And solutions are at hand. And from day one, literally, we have been offering solutions.
Starting point is 00:10:55 What I was asking was, was it a mistake to kind of allow that flood to happen in the first place? I think the policies that we have been proposing are about fixing a problem, not promoting a problem, okay? But the numbers did quadruple. And the numbers today, because of what we have done, we have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half.
Starting point is 00:11:21 We have cut the flow of fentanyl by half. But we need Congress to be able to act to actually fix the problem. Now, this is fascinating. For me, personally, I love the art of the interview. I love listening. I love debate. And it's all in the follow-up. It's never in the initial question.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Despite what we heard from the view, which was a good, open-ended question that put Kamala Harris on her heels, what I believe the true art in the interview is the follow-up. And Whitaker follows up two or three times. Now, ultimately, she is a fish that gets to wriggle off the hook,
Starting point is 00:11:58 and here's why. It's not about nailing the candidate. It's not about gotcha. It's about whether or not the candidate can spin into talking points. Okay, the question is, is, should you have done in the first three and a half years what you've done in the past six months? Whitaker lays out that numbers are down, that illegal immigration is down. And the Biden
Starting point is 00:12:21 administration is put into new policies through executive orders to constrain the flow of illegal immigration. And the question is, should you have done that over the first three and a half years? Now, Harris wants to go to her talking point. And her talking point is that Republicans and Donald Trump killed a bipartisan bill that provides a solution, a long-term solution to illegal immigration. But that is not on topic. It's not. It's under the banner of the topic, meaning it's under the broad umbrella of illegal immigration, but it's not to the question asked by Whitaker. And he does a good job of saying, no, but what I'm asking you is, should you, if you have the capability, which has been shown of the last six months, exercise that capability
Starting point is 00:13:04 over the first three and a half years? And you can see her pivot and squirm. And ultimately, she overtalks him when he tries to follow up a second time, getting back to her talking point of a bipartisan border bill. But you understand the logic here because I think it's fascinating. And I do think you have to press. And I don't know if he pressed a third time that we didn't see in that interview. But you do have to press to say, wait, wait, wait, I just need to follow the logic.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Clearly, the Biden administration has decided, for whatever may be the motivation, principle or politics that something must change and they changed it in the last i'd say four to six months and illegal immigration numbers are down now if you had that power under executive authority why did you wait three and a half years to exercise that power what did you do the first three and a half years where we saw illegal immigration numbers quadruple by the way that is astounding remember it's from two million illegal encounters up to 8 million illegal encounters.
Starting point is 00:14:07 The follow-up requires her to follow that logic. And the true curiosity for any American voter is the why. Why did you not? We know why now you did because of politics. But the question for the first three and a half years is, why did you not? And here's why it's so important. Because once, presumably, you're re-elected in politics,
Starting point is 00:14:31 in its immediacy, there's no election for you once you become president for four years, will you revert to? Because it's very logical for the American public to assume you'll revert to who you were for the first three and a half years. The art is in the follow-up. And politicians are generally really practiced at avoidance, at squirming, at wiggling off the hook.
Starting point is 00:14:55 The problem for Kamala Harris is she's too obvious about it. She uses word salads, and they all use talking points. But she wanders in the woods bumping into trees. in order to avoid the direct confrontation. Here's a great example. He asks her about the economy. Here it is again on 60 minutes. My plan is about saying that when you invest in small businesses,
Starting point is 00:15:20 you invest in the middle class and you strengthen America's economy. Small businesses are part of the backbone of America's economy. But pardon me, Madam Vice President, the question was, how are you going to pay for it? Well, one of the things is I'm going to make sure that the richest among us who can afford it pay their fair share in taxes. It is not right that teachers and nurses and firefighters are paying a higher tax rate than billionaires and the biggest corporations. And I plan on making that fair. But we're dealing with the real world here. But the real world includes...
Starting point is 00:15:59 How are you going to get this through Congress? You know, when you talk quietly with a lot of folks in Congress... Congress, they know exactly what I'm talking about because their constituents know exactly what I'm talking about. Their constituents are those firefighters and teachers and nurses. Now, this is a talking point. It's not a new talking point to Kamala Harris. This is a talking point for decades of Democrats. Dave Portnoy of Barstall Sports put this well. He goes, what does that mean, by the way, fair share? He said, I pay 50% in taxes. He's a very wealthy man, having sold barstle now owning barstle again he pays 50% in taxes what is fair is it true that
Starting point is 00:16:40 there are teachers and nurses paying more than 50% in taxes and the answer is no obviously that is not true now how does someone like comela harris you know look herself in the mirror while saying that well what they're going to do is they're going to pivot and point to some very very wealthy individuals probably in the billions but maybe in the hundreds of millions whose primary income at this point is through capital gains. They don't take incomes. They don't take salaries. They have enough wealth that they live off their wealth. Because at income, truly income tax, you know, I don't know what fair means. That's for you to decide, you listening, you watching, but truly, like wealthy people pay, first of all, depending on where you live, but it's going to fall somewhere
Starting point is 00:17:27 between 40 and 60 percent of their total income and taxes. And then, you know, you could say, well, I don't know again, how do we inform what is fair? Well, I believe that the numbers are, I don't have this in front of me, but like the wealthiest 1% pay, is it 70, 80% of the total taxes collected? I can't remember what the number is. It might not be quite that high, but it's a ridiculously high number. Now, if you want to have a separate conversation, I think that she does about capital gains, because she's talked about taxing unrealized gains and raising the capital gains rate and raising the corporate tax rate, that's a separate conversation. But it's also not realistic to say it's going to pay for your $3 trillion over 10 years. Just not, just not
Starting point is 00:18:10 real. You know, one of the big pieces of feedback, I read the comments on 60 Minutes' YouTube page. I'll bring you guys in New York into this. You know, one of the big comments on this was that the interview was very choppy. Did anyone else notice that? Did you guys notice the jump cuts? It's a recorded interview that is then packaged for 60 minutes. Did for any of you guys that stand out the jump cuts? A little bit, especially in that last one we played.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Like, I didn't cut that down like that. No. Especially they put out those like kind of teasers before the interview too. So some of them are from that. It's not hard to. Well, I watched it. It's not hard to hide that. I watched it in its entirety,
Starting point is 00:18:57 and meaning a 20-minute version, and it has those jump cuts. Now, I want to talk about TV for just a minute so people understand. There are time constraints. That's just the nature of TV, you know, and you don't want the same time constraints for your interview.
Starting point is 00:19:08 So I don't know, let's say 60 minutes did a 20-minute interview that airs on probably an hour program with commercial breaks. A 20-minute interview adds up to about 40, to 45 minutes, well, 40 minutes of television. Then they had a little bit of Tim Walts in there, which added another 5 to 10. And that's on the high end. Like, I think in one hour of television, you actually end up with 40 to 45 minutes of actual viewing experience, right, taking out the
Starting point is 00:19:34 commercials. So now you say, okay, this interview is going to end up, let's just call it 42 minutes. And we're going to use 20 of it for Kamala Harris. There's some, I don't know, maybe they do a third story. You add a little bit of 5 to 10 for Tim Walts. And you end up with, 20 minutes for Kamala Harris. They don't want to sit down with Kamala Harris for 20 minutes. And you know, the answer to that is obvious. I actually don't know this with Kamala Harris because I haven't seen
Starting point is 00:20:00 too many answers or interviews with her, but I'll give you both Donald Trump and Barack Obama. That would be horrific. It would literally be three questions. Tops. They will talk forever. Forever. And then you have to make a decision as an interviewer because of my time
Starting point is 00:20:16 constraints, do I interrupt? And then you come off is very rude. right? And I have interviewed Donald Trump now enough to know the pacing of his answers. And what he does is if I ask him a question, he begins to answer the question. And then he falls into his own rabbit hole. He chases thoughts. He chases everything that pops up into his mind. He really does. He doesn't deprive himself. He almost goes on a mini stump speech. But then I do notice with Donald Trump, again, because I've done it so many times, he comes back around at the end of your question. Now, it may take 10 minutes, truly, seven-minute answer.
Starting point is 00:20:54 It may. If you stick around, and it's asking a lot of the interviewer and the listener, the viewer, to stick around for that long, you will have him readdress the initial question. I don't know with Kamala Harris. So my point is, you have to cut it down. And it's a shame. I told you guys when my Fox and Friends Weekend co-host and I interviewed Donald Trump, the interview lasted 90 minutes. Of course we didn't air 90 minutes And Trump was like, let it air
Starting point is 00:21:21 I would just run the whole thing It'll rate Put it up You know But it's just not the nature of TV Well, the comments on 60 Minutes YouTube was air the entirety Err the entirety.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Err, let us know Now, you can do that Because you have a YouTube page And we did that here We aired the entirety of the Donald Trump interview On the Will Kane show And 60 Minutes could do that
Starting point is 00:21:45 Because here's what I'm left to wonder With the jump cuts was it saving Kamala Harris or hurting Kamala Harris? I don't know. I truly don't know. Like those cuts on the economy. She jumps in thoughts and you can see the camera angles change. That's how you covered up, by the way.
Starting point is 00:22:01 It's how you cover up a cut for anybody that's unfamiliar. You all of a sudden, they have what's called probably a three camera shoot. They have a camera facing Kamala Harris, a camera facing the reporter, and the one facing the reporter will have Kamala Harris's back. see her back there. And then you'll have a two shot, one of both of them in the frame. And you can switch between those three cameras to cover up when you cut someone in the middle of an answer. And I don't know if she was worse or better uncut. I truly don't know. Now, this is part of, hold on, this is part of Donald Trump. They made a point on 60 minutes. Donald Trump has said no
Starting point is 00:22:43 to 60 minutes. And I got to be. honest. If I'm Donald Trump, I might as well because of the edit. I don't trust the edit. And he would have a reason not to trust them because of the interview with Leslie Stahl from four years ago on whether or not Hunter Biden's laptop was real or Russian disinformation. Now, he's saying today that it was Russian disinformation. I've gone back and watched. She doesn't say that that I can hear. She says it's unverified. Now, she ends up being wrong and Trump is right. but Trump wants an apology. Set aside with all he's going to get the apology.
Starting point is 00:23:21 I would just have a lack of trust in the edit. And if it's Donald Trump, I feel pretty confident they're not going to edit to help. But if I'm Kamala Harris, I don't know. And as a viewer, I don't know if they edited to help her or hurt her. But I will say this, if they tried to help her, it must have been really bad in the unedited version because this is not going over well.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Go ahead, James. Yeah, I mean, I think you just know some of the conversations that happen in those producer rooms at a network that might be a little more center left or there's probably folks saying do we have a responsibility not to tank Harris's campaign by this or just similar things said to like that and we won't know well this 60 minutes interview was not good for her campaign um this shows I think a candidate that lacks the ability to think on their feet it probably shows a candidate as well who hasn't who honestly if we're being real and we boil it down to it is on the C team
Starting point is 00:24:23 that's the truth this is C team Democrats Tim Walts and Kamala Harris and that may be good enough because the election may simply be yet again for the you know third fourth time now counting midterm elections a referendum on Donald Trump but you're not looking at even a practiced in good politician for Democrats you are truly looking not at JV. I think you are truly looking at C-Team. We'll see if that's good enough
Starting point is 00:24:52 for America. All right, coming up, outkicks Bobby Burrack with a mailbag walking us through some of the biggest questions in media and the biggest questions for me next on the Will Cain Show. Following Fox's initial donation
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Starting point is 00:25:16 TX flood relief to support relief and rebuilding efforts. 60 minutes asked Kamala Harris
Starting point is 00:25:27 what kind of gun is it that you own? She said a Glock John Rich of country music stardom big and rich
Starting point is 00:25:35 said, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Kamala Harris has advocated for a restriction on
Starting point is 00:25:42 magazine capacity down to seven bullets every glock that he knows of goes to 10 or 15 bullets this is why you ask a candidate to answer questions they're not prepared it's the will cane show streaming live at foxnews.com on the fox news youtube channel on the fox news facebook page hit subscribe at apple spotify or on youtube you can jump into the comments like has flipper kelly tim miller says Flipper Kelly, discusses the fact that Trump bailed out on the traditional 60-minute interview
Starting point is 00:26:14 and Harris crushed it. Good for Tim Miller. I do not think that is probably the sentiment of America. Kendall Writings says, I blame young establishment, James, for the feed issues. Wilcane Show was up and running a little late today.
Starting point is 00:26:32 As I understand it, two days, as I understand it, that's because you got a system reboot everyone's familiar with the system reboot on their computer one minute before show started and then you have to go through the entire reboot I got one of the blue screens of death so I don't know what James has been looking at
Starting point is 00:26:49 on these computers over here so James has nothing to do with the feeds and uses his own laptop hmm well apologies for running a little bit late here today on the Wilcane show let's bring in outkick columnist Bobby Burrack he joins us every so often provide us
Starting point is 00:27:06 with some feedback from the viewers who runs us through a mailbag. Before we get to some of the questions from viewers, Bobby, I actually want to start with this 60 minutes interview again, if I might. It was fascinating also to hear them press Kamala Harris on. The reason that Americans are concerned about you is that they do not know you, and they do not know you because you have flip-flopped on issues.
Starting point is 00:27:28 And Bill Whitaker, the CBS correspondent, walks through all of her flip-flops on issues. Here's my question for you. This is a conversation we began last week on the Will Kane show. show and i ended up having it over breakfast with a friend on friday and we said you know being polished sometimes is not a virtue in politics we were talking about jd vance who's in my estimation really good and was once again yesterday on fox and friends really good but i do have to confront that some of the polling for jd vance isn't good and even some of the results from the debate
Starting point is 00:28:07 not great and we began to discuss like maybe like being intelligent isn't a currency bobby you and i talked about back in the days of ESPN trying to run smart television with bomani jones and pablo tori intelligence is not a way that people connect and so you have to show your own failings you have to be real you have to show your own vulnerability in short you have to be human and in a way you talk often belies your humanity and if you look at presidents And I'm going to go back. Bill Clinton, ate cheeseburgers and gave into his gluttony. George W. Bush sounded in eloquent. Donald Trump talks in simplistic terms, rhetoric, and words. And Joe Biden even had his own limitations that kept him unpolished. The only exception is Barack Obama.
Starting point is 00:28:58 And I do wonder, like, I'll apply this to Kamala Harris, because we start with J.D. Vance, but we move to Kamala Harris. do you think there's something that in the end could be virtuous about when i say virtuous i mean ability to appeal to voters about her lack of polish and could i should i be looking for a curveball here in fact when it comes to comel harris well i think two things are true at once excuse me that observation is correct um just funny timing alix cooper is in my estimation the second or first most influential podcaster in the country. Why? Because she's just a normal person.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Even though she's really rich now, she started out just talking like girls talk. And that was really appealing to a lot of people as opposed to some stiffy journalists who ask what they're supposed to ask. But the problem is with Conla Harris, I don't get the sense that she talks like normal people. She talks like she is uncomfortable, off-putting, and honestly, dishonest. I think that's the difference, right?
Starting point is 00:30:09 Trump, George W. Bush, you could say, well, that's the way I talk with my friends. And that's a really comforting feeling. Kamla Harris doesn't give off that vibe. She doesn't give off a polished vibe, but she gives off a vibe where it's a bit contrived, but it's just not coming across the way she wants to. So in the case of J.D. Vance, I do think that is a bit of a concern, but I don't think in the inverse that we should be concerned that Kamala Harris is going to gain support for, I think, her lack of really saying the things that she wants to say. It looks often like the words
Starting point is 00:30:46 aren't matching her intentions. I think that's exactly right. I think that's really, really fair. You know, people have pointed out, I have a tendency during an interview to nod. when I'm listening to people. It's sort of a new thing that I've developed, and I don't know why I do it, because it doesn't signal agreement from me always. It's kind of encouragement for someone to continue talking. Kamler is to something different.
Starting point is 00:31:13 She nods along to her own words. She nods along to when she receives a moment in a sentence that she thinks is profound and nods at it, and it's not profound. And it's like the MSNBC tick of saying, right. Do you know what I'm talking about? Have you noticed the tick? It's particular on MSNBC and it may be with young people listening where you say something and halfway through your sentence you say right and it forces the listener to agree with you. That's kind of the implication when they don't. It's kind of Kamala Harris
Starting point is 00:31:45 does that nonverbally. She says something and if you'll notice she'll nod at a at a word halfway through her sentence and you're like that wasn't that profound. Why are you nodding? It feels very fake. Yeah. And the other ones you mentioned, whether it be Trump, Bill Clinton, Bush, and particularly Barack Obama, they were persuasive. They were convincing. She's not. Like when she's talking on air, you don't really buy what she's selling. Obama was a unique case where the presentation was so strong that you wanted to run through a wall for him. And then you read the transcript. And it's like, well, that sounded good. But it's kind of nonsense when you actually read it and don't. don't put the face and the voice behind those words. Kamala Harris has none of that going for her. Cause I watched that entire 60 minute interview. I watched the entire CNN interview. Those are the only two national interviews.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I think she's done on television since emerging as the nominee. She's not convincing. In a lot of ways, she seems like she is lying and no she's lying. So she resorts to that famous cackle that I think in a lot of ways makes viewers trust her even less. Let's go back to, like, the days in high school. You always knew the kid was lying when their face got red. They started to smile, laugh. That's how I see her.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I'm going to have to start striving for a bit more self-awareness. El Donato Trumpez on YouTube says, I'm going to have to start taking a shot every time Will says, in my estimation. I didn't even know, Eltonado, that I do that. I didn't even know that I said in my estimation, but now I'm going to be super self-conscious and strive for a little more self-awareness. Speaking of that, Bobby Barak, columns atoutkick.com, joins us on occasion. He comes to us with often mailbag questions from viewers and listeners, and today is no different.
Starting point is 00:33:46 He has some questions for us here today on the Will Kane show. First of all, Will, we do have a great list of mailbag questions, but I actually want to start with a question I have for you and the crew. Is that good? yep all right so i live in michigan i am most of my family is from poland we don't tan very well we're a pretty pale family and the more i do these hits with you dockage and rachel camp post off the other people i noticed one thing i looked too pale and i really noticed it in like late august and it was too late to just go out in the sun and catch up with you guys so i started
Starting point is 00:34:25 going to the tanning salon full disclosure oh no yeah yeah yeah so um i've been going for about three weeks now not a lot just here and there i'm the only guy at the salon and there's a lot of people there so i'm going to open it up to you james dan tinfoil is it okay for straight guys to go to the tanning salon no no oh this is a tough one buddy answer uh i should say maybe i'll start with this. I'm not sure it's working. I don't know how, I don't know how pale you were before, but you don't strike me today as tan. Here's what I, here's what I said. You want to ask about when not straight, yeah, it's right. And by the way, it's super bad for you, Bobby. Like, you're Polish, you're naturally pale, you're from Wisconsin. Don't go zap your skin, like with
Starting point is 00:35:20 cancer rays. Now, I mean, Sun and vitamin D, that's all good. But I don't, you know, if you're from Jersey, the answer is yes, straight guys can go. Maybe everywhere else is the answer no? Like Jersey, like if we made a map of the United States on straight guys, the tanning salon, do you think that it's a like no asterisk jersey? Like, I think, you know, there's not many other communities where it's like, yeah, you should go. By the way, you could spray tan.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And I'm not saying to do that either. Don't do that, but that would be healthier than laying down in the tanning bed. Well, I will say, so I live in a pretty blue collar area with a lot of working class guys. And I've asked them this question. And, I mean, they just think the whole idea is preposterous to even consider a straight guy going to tanning salon. But I wanted to ask you guys, because you spent a lot of time in New York. I know James and Dan are New Yorkers, New Jersey area, Patrick's and Jacksonville. So I wanted to hear your opinion.
Starting point is 00:36:23 But I will say this, just a full disclosure. I do think it's working because I put that little sticker on. And when I remove that sticker, skin's a lot darker than it was before. So I'm going to push back a little bit on the... I'd like a little before and after pick. That's what I'd like, before and after pick. Have you ever been to the tanning salon? I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I'm just trying to think about how to be honest. I have. I'll admit it. I don't think I've been. I don't think I've been. But that doesn't mean that I haven't been in a tanning bit. To get into my dad and who my dad was would be a very complicated and long conversation. But long and short, my dad was a unique dude, small town, Texas, attorney, like sports car, guns.
Starting point is 00:37:18 It's just, it's complicated, man. It's very complicated. but he had a tanning bed he bought one and so I had one in my house growing up right and so yeah I got in it back then but I don't know that I've ever been to a tanning salon all right well I will add this
Starting point is 00:37:40 he's not a camera right now but one of your producers is actually under the impression that the sun is worse for your skin than the tanning race No. I never said that. Didn't then Tinfoil Pat
Starting point is 00:37:55 Was it on sunscreen? He's not on the screen. Tinfoil Pat probably would I mean if I think today you know James and Dan you could weigh in on this judging from our morning note
Starting point is 00:38:11 I'm trying to keep this show from going in the direction of cloud seating this morning and and keep any national weather talk from descending into conspiracies, but tinfoil's thoughts on tanning
Starting point is 00:38:27 I'm sure reach levels that I've never even considered, right? Like, there's simple, there's simple anti-establishment thinking, like, that'd be Rachel Campos Duffy. Like, oh, all this sun is bad for you, that's nonsense. You need the sun, which I'm inclined to agree with. And, you know, you should eat processed food, you should eat whole foods. Again, I'm inclined to agree with.
Starting point is 00:38:48 you know but pat would take it to another level bobby that i don't even want to explore like there's solar flares that emerge on a monthly basis and they are the ones that you want to actually but they're the ones you want to experience like go out once a month get the solar flare that's a true good exposure to vitamin d like i don't even want to know where tinfoil pat's mind is on this right now but i do want to know what you have for us from the viewers what you have in your mailbag so i'm going to start with a fun one here because we're all having a good time this comes from Ryan in Virginia, Will and Bobby, would you rather Trump win the election or your favorite team win the Super Bowl this season?
Starting point is 00:39:27 Well, so, Cowboys are Trump. Cowboys are Trump. It's funny, like, if that person from Virginia asked me about any of the other sports, I would, it wouldn't be as difficult because I've had, I've experienced, I've tasted a little more victory you know um i can just hear the comments right now how dare you even consider putting sports on the same level as the future of the country i can just hear it right now just relax tough guy for a minute okay just be a human for a moment the answer is i want what's best for the country over the cowboys winning the super bowl cowboys have lost a little bit of my passion this year
Starting point is 00:40:09 they truly have now longhorns yeah you know longhorns win the national championship No, I will opt for the future of the country. I do think every election since 2008 has been a question for a sliding scale of taking America down the path of socialism and more like every other country in the world, each one like a roller coaster gaining steam, four year after cycle after four year cycle. And this roller coaster has to stop. And that's more important to me than the Cowboys winning. But I do like a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:40:42 I will say, Ryan, this question is. isn't really fair when you pose it to Will and I because his team is like a borderline playoff team. The Detroit Lions might just win the Super Bowl. I mean, like, I'm not being biased here. You're going to ask me like, hey, who's going to win this year? Chiefs are pretty banged up. The 49ers aren't as good. I think the Lions have a real shot. So come February, Trump might be in the White House and the Lions might be Super Bowl champions. I might not have to choose. But I'm with you. I think you have to opt for what is best for the country. you, but I will say just I do want to provide this one counter. If your team wins the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:41:21 nobody can ever take that away from you. In four years, the president, kind of old news. And we have new ministrations every four years. I just want to say, the lasting effects of a team winning a Super Bowl, you remember that forever. I'm not sure we'll remember when we're about to die who wins this election. I think we could. I'd like to believe that Trump. I'd like to think the Trump represents a fundamental change in the status quo of American politics, especially without a re-election on the horizon, you know, another term, more free to pursue exactly who it is he would like to be. I'd like to think it would have a little more lasting effect for America. Bobby, I've got something for you. Anne Breitrick on YouTube says, Bobby is whiter than me.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Ha, ha, ha, ha. Of course, we don't know how white Anne is, but there's, the jury's coming back. the jury's coming back on your complexion well i'll say this a lot of people wearing makeup so they're darker so you got to think like will might be tanner than me but you add on the makeup and just want to let everybody know it's not quite as a landslide victory as you might think if i put on a little makeup that's fair i do tan might be a different story
Starting point is 00:42:32 we'll get you some bronzer like megan kelly implored uh the margaret brinnon the cbs moderator after the vice president's lebeck get some bronzer Bob, you brought up to call her daddy. I was so happy to see that because it made me feel pretty good about myself, seeing how pale she was. So I actually want to see more of her on TV because it makes Polish guys like me look more normal. Bobby, you brought up Call Her Daddy, Alex Cooper. Alex Cooper and Kamala Harris had a really pretty interesting exchange.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Well, they talked about women. The entire podcast was about women and getting the women vote. And I have a clip that I want to play for you. You had mentioned that Alex Cooper is sort of in touch with regular girls. I don't think this is a great example for either Alex Cooper or Kamala Harris. Watch. Almost one in four Gen Z and millennials say they don't want to have kids because it's too damn expensive. How are you going to help young people not feel left behind?
Starting point is 00:43:35 First of all, it's a very real issue and we need to take it seriously. And I do take it very seriously. So there are a number of issues that contribute to that feeling. One is housing is too expensive. Second piece is $25,000 down payment assistance for first-time home buyers. Because a big issue in terms of the barrier to being a homeowner is just having enough to actually put that down payment down, right, to get your foot in the door. So, Bobby, I think what the issue here is, people have pointed out, that's two millionaires without kids. talking about how it's too expensive to have kids.
Starting point is 00:44:14 This is like, you know, a little bit, ladies, have some self-awareness. You can afford kids. And now, even if you say you're speaking for other people, there are a lot of people who have kids throughout history and throughout the world that have done so without millions. Was it the issue with a lot of these normal people-turned successful broadcasters, Joe Rogan, Alex Cooper, Dave Portnoy, Howard Stern, is that they build their brands around speaking to the common man, or in this case, the common woman, and they get so uber rich that it seems
Starting point is 00:44:51 like they lack self-awareness. So you have to ask yourself, do the listeners understand that? I actually disagree somewhat. I think that's a very real concern. I talked about it in a new column I had. This is not my opinion, but speaking to a lot of women, let's say 25 to 40, most of them would identify, I think, as conservatives. They're very worried about this topic. They're very worried about the GOP's messaging on women. And I think Trump and Vance have to be cognizant of that. Because it's not just liberal women who think the GOP wants them barefoot in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:45:31 I don't think that's what they want, but that's what the perception is. And that's a real problem. So I think Kamala doing this interview with Alex Cooper really feeds into that message. I saw a lot of people say, well, look at this YouTube number isn't that high. It doesn't really matter. This is a show that actually does most of its influence via audio podcast on Apple and Spotify, which last I check is the number one episode of the week so far. So I disagree with the people dismissing this interview as non-influential.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I think it could have a minor impact, not just on what women think. think, but young women who planned on not voting might now vote because Alex Cooper is telling them to. Don't dismiss that. Well, I think you're right on a couple of notes. First, let's just contextualize how big it is, call her daddy. It's up there with Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson. It's huge. Well, I believe, and you know better than I do, Bobby, that it's a hundred million dollar contract with Sirius XM, I believe, over three years, so 30 million a year. And you and I've talked about this. There are some people who have signed really big deals in media that you'd say,
Starting point is 00:46:43 well, I'm not sure that's going to pay off. Like, can they monetize it above that? This, I will say, Alex Cooper has signed successive deals with Spotify, Barstool, Spotify, and now Sirius XM, where clearly her show is monetized at a level that it's worth that much money. It literally makes that much money. Yeah, I think it's actually, I think your reporting numbers, 125. I've heard from people's closer to 150 million all in, so 150 divided by three.
Starting point is 00:47:13 You guys can do the math. Spotify released some internal data in January, and I'd actually argue she has more passionate listeners than Rogan. Rogan's a really interesting example in which people subscribe to his podcast, and people are aware of who he's interviewing, but they don't necessarily listen unless the person he's interviewing is of interest to them, meaning someone might listen to Rogan once a month. Cooper's audience tends to listen every episode. This isn't me shilling for her or Kamla Harris. I thought the optics of the interview were awful, but I don't want to discount and live in a bubble to say this interview doesn't matter. As far as messaging, it was pretty smart.
Starting point is 00:47:59 And we can all criticize the idea of talking about abortion, why people in North Carolina are dying. And I agree. I do not think it was a good look, but I also don't think Alex Cooper's audience cares. They don't probably not all that political. She mentioned off the top of the show, hey, I'm not the person to ask about the economy or the border, but I'm here to talk about women's issues or women's rights, as she would say. And that's what her audience cares about. So I can separate what I think personally and what I think that her audience is going to take from that interview.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I agree. I also agree that the women's vote and the way that it's trending and the issues that are important to them are highlighted there. And I think that you're right that it's not given enough attention by the GOP. All right, I want to share a few comments from the audience and then get you to bring another question in from the mailbag. Ricky LaFleur says Kamala Harris talks like a fourth grade teacher talking down to kids all day and takes it home and applies it in her everyday life. I think that's a very good analogy. It does remind you of an elementary school teacher.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Joe Yonk says, if you listen to her words and think about her response, you understand this is all part of her plan. She meant to let the illegal immigrants run rampant. That's the question, Joe. Like that's why I think the follow-up, before you join us, Bobby, I was talking about the art of the follow-up in 16. minutes and getting her to a point to acknowledge she's doing something different today than they did the first three and a half years leading to the most important question why and then angela tippets
Starting point is 00:49:34 on youtube says for all our blue friends on here do your research and ask the hard questions you're being gaslit and lied to get the facts not the feelings what else do you have for us bobby from the mailbag i'm going to stick on the topic of caller daddy this comes from jamie in colorado Would Will do an episode of Call Her Daddy if he didn't know the questions? Yes. Yes. I'm not afraid. There isn't a single, like you could ask me anyone, pretty much, anyone, I probably would.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I probably would do the interview. Well, let me rephrase that. Any topic, any topic, right? Like, I'm not afraid. So Alex Cooper's podcast, let's be clear, it's basically like audio pornography, right? It was smut. That's what it was. I'm not degrading it.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I'm describing it. And it led to a massive audience. She's mainstreamed it somewhat since then. She hasn't left behind that niche. She still talks about, you know, best ways to give a BJ or whatever it may be. But like, she was cosmopolitan ramped up in audio form. No, she wasn't. She might have been even Playboy, right?
Starting point is 00:50:51 She was literally like, she might even been hustler in audio form. And it led to a huge audience. And now she's mainstreamed to the point where she's getting the vice president of United States. And it's made me wonder, wow, well, should you've gone down that path? Like, if you think about, here would be an interesting question. I'm being somewhat joking, but like, if you look back on media, how many people have well worn that same path?
Starting point is 00:51:16 like a path of ill-reputed, you know, disres, what's the right word, not respectable, parlaying a big audience into respectability. I mean, Stern did it. Okay, that's what he did. He went from the same thing, shock jock, to where he became basically America's number one celebrity interviewer and quote unquote legit, right? I don't know who else, but there's a lot that went down that path. And by the way, back to your direct question to me, I wouldn't be afraid.
Starting point is 00:51:49 There's no question that I'm going to, I'm afraid of. I'll be able to answer it. And I'll be able to, I mean, Fox will never let me go on any of these shows. But I would be able to keep it between the lines. Yeah. Excuse me. I'm always nasally on your show. So on a more serious note, like from the business standpoint, the reason why she was able
Starting point is 00:52:10 to break through is actually quite simple to me. So look at everything like a pie chart. So you look at a shoulder. in politics. I think Ben Shapiro probably has the most successful political podcast. The problem is there's so many. What market share does he own? One percent maybe, probably less than one percent. In politics is a pretty big pie. Same with sports. Big pie, but part of my takes market share is probably pretty small. Sex talk might be the biggest pie and she owns probably 80 percent of that market share. It's very similar to Dave Ramsey in the sense of
Starting point is 00:52:46 well is his show better than other radio shows i don't know but he dominates the business talk market share so that niche is really important particularly when it's not a small niche but a big one um but yeah i think you could do the show look clay Travis who's a mutual friend of both of ours he's advocating for Alex to actually invite him on the show he's ready to go he wants to go on next week well of course of course it's a huge audience Like I'd say it's clearly I know, of course Bring me on.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yeah, we all know why you want to go on. Yeah. But, you know, one last point on this and then I want to move on. The other thing is, like you talk about sex talk. I saw some people, I'll say, like, Stephen A did this for a little bit. He's not doing it now.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Shan Sharp is doing it. Where it's like you try to go the opposite way. Like you kind of come from the world of legitimacy and then try to indulge the sex talk. and that's super cringy. Like, so it's almost like you have to wear the path of Howard Stern and Alex Cooper. I mean, again, you and I are only being analytical here,
Starting point is 00:53:54 not cheerleading anyone's type of content. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're just kind of like analyzing it, but like to see it try to work the other way, it doesn't work. Like, I don't want to see Shannon Sharp talking about sex. Well, hold on, let me ask you a question. This, people might not like this,
Starting point is 00:54:11 but I think it's a pretty fair question. is it because they come from legitimized media or is it because they're guys like I don't think a guy could do call her daddy nearly as well I think it's different. Stern.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Stern. Yeah, but he wasn't really talking about himself having sex. That's what really do they show up was that she would talk about. He literally had women. He had women sit on speakers on air.
Starting point is 00:54:39 All right. All right. Start's a fair one. Maybe you need to watch the movie private parts. I want to ask you about this story because I find it fascinating it's going to take a little bit of setup
Starting point is 00:54:49 for the audience Tanahasi Coates best described as sort of the patron saint of DEI he is like the most revered figure within the anti I don't know that he ever fully grabbed the mantle of the anti-racist movement
Starting point is 00:55:05 but he pre-dated the anti-racist movement like Tanahsi Coates got big in I'd say 10-11 in that range you know, the anti-racist movement of Ibram Kendi comes along in like 1718, 16, 17, 18. But Ta-Nehisi Coates is revered in that world. Okay, he goes to Gaza, I believe, or maybe it was the West Bank. He writes a new book. He's got a new book out.
Starting point is 00:55:27 And it's very much from the viewpoint in championing the side of the Palestinians. He goes on CBS this morning last week. And he's challenged, again, in a shocking way by CBS by their morning anchor, Tony Doecoble. This is how it sounds on that CBS This Morning Show. I imagine if I took your name out of it, took away the awards and the acclaim, took the cover off the book, the publishing house goes away. The content of that section would not be out of place in the backpack of an extremist. And so then I found myself wondering, why does Tanahashi Coates,
Starting point is 00:56:04 who I've known for a long time, read his work for a long time, very talented, smart guy, leave out so much? Why leave out that Israel is surrounded by countries that want to eliminate it? Why leave out that Israel deals with terror groups that want to eliminate it? Why not detail anything of the first and the second intifada, the cafe bombings, the bus bombings, the little kids blown to bits? And is it because you just don't believe that Israel in any condition has a right to exist? Well, I would say the perspective that you just outlined,
Starting point is 00:56:36 there is no shortage of that perspective in American media. That's the first thing I would say. I am most concerned always with those who don't have a voice, with those who don't have the ability to talk. As a side note, I just wanted to tell audience, after yesterday's show, we had Trey Yankst on the show live from Cabot's Berry in Southern Israel, the site of just horrific slaughter. Trey was great, and we were talking about Black Saturday. I had started Trey's book before the interview. I continue to read it on the plane home yesterday
Starting point is 00:57:11 it is an absolute page turner and everyone listening Bobby knows I don't do this like I don't sit there and go you should, it's a page turner and what happened Bobby it was October 7th yesterday I actually ended up on X last night
Starting point is 00:57:26 it's not the best way to do this before you go to bed but I found a thread and just ended up on this I saw videos I'd never seen I saw really bad stuff from a year ago I mean it is shocking man so anyway
Starting point is 00:57:39 that made me think about that and listen to Tonahe Hosey Coates. And by way, Coates wasn't upset at the question. It didn't seem to be. But people at CBS were. CBS has taken that moment and said it did not live up to their standards and practices. From that, they had a morning editorial call yesterday and their CBS legal correspondent, I'm forgetting her name, but she stood up in defense of Docapul and said, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:58:01 Like Coates wrote a one-sided account, Docapul challenged it. That's what you're supposed to do. And if you're telling me that doesn't live up to our standards and practices, I don't know my job here. I don't know how to interview people. And this is a pretty fascinating moment for CBS. Yes. Excuse me. A couple things.
Starting point is 00:58:20 I want to set it up. So, Tanahashi Coates believes, this is what he's known for. I just want to provide a little background. He believes in the Marxian worldview that success is the result of exploitation, meaning that if a group is successful, he inherently believes it's because they have exploited another demographic. So it makes sense. I wrote a column about this in May. I'm not about how the pro-Palestinian movement and the BLM movement are pretty much the same thing.
Starting point is 00:58:52 So he believes that white people are successful in America because they have exploited black people. He applies that same logic to Israel and what's happening in Gaza that, well, Jewish people are successful because of how they've treated. Palestinians. So I'm not surprised at all that he would be so defensive of Palestine when you consider how defensive he is to black Americans in America. I just want to set that up. I think it's a really fascinating concept about why people who support Palestine also support BLM. So number two, as far as the interview goes, CNN's exact quote was that it was he failed to meet standards of impartiality. It was the exact quote. Did Margaret Brennan and Nora O'Donnell, did they uphold impartiality during that VP debate?
Starting point is 00:59:44 I don't think so. What were all the times that PBS pushed the Russia hoax or the way they've covered the election, according to newsbusters? About 95% of their coverage of Donald Trump has been negative. And about 89% of their coverage of Kamala Harris has been positive. So this is not an impartial news organization, but all of a sudden. Wait, wait, Bobby. So wouldn't you guess what happened here? Wouldn't you guess what happened here is that internally some big Tanahasi Coates fans at CBS,
Starting point is 01:00:15 perhaps within the DEI department or the HR department, raised a stink. It was like, how dare you describe him as in league with extremists? You know, to me, it's either one of two things. It's either that, there's either an internal faction at CBS who is very, very pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel. I'm less inclined to believe that. but that is more bought into Tanahasi Coates is untouchable. How dare you? Basically, with the implication, it would be racist for you not to kiss his ass on CBS.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Yeah, and that goes back to this why I started off with the connection to Black Lives Matter because the people who are outraged over those questions in their minds, well, that means CBS thinks that BLM is an extremist movement, which I do believe that. I think that the organization Black Lives Matter is an extremist Marxist organization. So absolutely people in the legacy media in New York where CBS is based, I'm sure there was internal pushback. Not only that, I'm sure the media matters, New York Times, those media journalists, they probably also reached out. And CBS wanted to get a half. I'm sure. So this comes down to, again, the outrage machine continues to dictate decision-making from very powerful American corporations.
Starting point is 01:01:44 There were a few lines during that interview. I did think the anchor, Tony, I don't know how you to say his last name. I thought he got a little emotional. Like when he's like, so you don't even think Jewish people deserve to exist. Israel. I think he says Israel, yeah. Maybe he says Israel, yeah, which again, I think is a fair question given some of the arguments that the pro-Palestinian advocates have made. But from my understanding, he, Coates did not make that point in his essay.
Starting point is 01:02:15 So I think the anchor who converted to Judaism probably was a bit emotional, but so are every other anchor. I mean, that's right. You know what? I would submit he was not a hundred, 100% objective. He pushed back, and I think that's fair. Yeah. He's not, he, but to your point, why does he have to be and no one else does at CBS? Like, that's the real question. Yeah, I mean, there's a new interview. It's from New York Times, but Maggie Haberman and Trump, for some reason, Trump keeps talking to her. I don't know why, but she is not an objective arbiter of the news.
Starting point is 01:02:55 None of these people are. And the same goes on the right. Like, I'm not going to cheerleet and say, this side is objective um you know i wrote a column yesterday about where i think the election stands and part of the reason i wrote is because i'm so sick of the people who have access to the megaphone just lying to the listeners and readers all these people have an agenda almost everybody has a cbs has an agenda and i think in this case the yanker had an agenda where he was probably very pro-israel and he was across from somebody who's not and cbs took the side of coats all right we're going to leave it there today that we've gone long on the show but i'm going to leave you with this bobby toy white says on youtube bobby is hilarious have him back
Starting point is 01:03:40 don't forget that will is tan because he hangs in the texas hell of sun so i got i got to read one too so clay Travis text me and he said my goodness are you voting for comla harris all natural tan all natural tans only so clay's hosting a show right now so i don't know i can't assume he was listening uh if he was we're really taken off here on the will cane show so much so that other show hosts are watching us in real time uh but the uh i think clay's right bobby go play take up golf or go do something to get your ass outside that's what you need to do you're too much inside it's not true i go outside i just don't see any results so it's hereditary the barack family can have picnics barbecues be outside in the sun the next day we all look
Starting point is 01:04:38 ghostly sun doesn't well i mean i believe you because i'm looking at the results of the tanning booth so i believe you all right outkick column next to bobby barack here on the will cane show i'll see you again next time thank you bobby There you goes. Check them out at outkick.com. All right, we're a long show today, but we've got, okay, just a little bit more than an observation, but something short of a theory on why we suddenly saw today the firing of the head coach of the New York Jets. Next on the Will Cain Show. Listen to the all-new Brett Bear podcast featuring Common Ground,
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Starting point is 01:06:00 Do you guys realize back in New York, this is what I always got. Okay, always got when I spent five years in sports. Stephen A. Smith, you don't know sports. You know politics. Cheap ad homonym nonsense attack. And then the stuff on Twitter or whatever. Because I'd say something. Here's the way works.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Sports has this, like, it is lockdown group think. Lockdown. And the group think is locked down by two driving factors. the left mentality and safety okay so you're on the left you're feeling with the group or you're scared of being ostracized so you're safely inside this and it not not that everything is political but then it creates this like total lack of independent thinking so i'd say things right i'd say things that were objectively not controversial just outside the bubble of safety and it'd be like you're such an idiot you don't know anything about sports a little bit of time passes guess what
Starting point is 01:06:52 happens will's right and this happened even on things it had like pure sports things pure now it doesn't mean i batted a thousand both of my sons have come home in the past month you realize my NFL draft prediction that pat my homes wouldn't be great is like you know how things go viral and you can't figure out my like my u.s women's national team equal pay thing went viral five years later huge yeah this pat my homes thinks it's going viral thing man and like all my kids friends see it and they're like yeah i saw your dad on patrick mahome he doesn't know anything about sports do you think aaron judge is like i said i didn't bat a thousand james i know one that's a thousand but i would no one's keeping score what's that you weren't wrong what did you say pat
Starting point is 01:07:41 he has weird throwing i wasn't wrong thank you you weren't wrong thank you i wasn't wrong on my homes i said here's what i hear about my homes undisciplined lack of mechanics like a fundamentals all that was true it's just that his talent superseded at all but he's so good by the way if everybody knew if everybody knew that he would have gone first overall so don't act like i'm the idiot that missed the boat everybody missed the boat on patrick mahomes but here's what i'm getting at i went four and one against the experts this week in nfl picks only one i missed was last night because i took the saints plus the points we had craig carton fs one on i wish we'd have pulled this clip it's from friday show i took
Starting point is 01:08:22 the Cardinals over the 49ers and I got seven and a half points and he said to me you're good on Fox and Friends but this is why you're not good at sports right and then if that was on the internet and all of us were better at social media
Starting point is 01:08:38 I guarantee the social media comments would have been with Craig you know why? Because everybody's gonna be safe in the bubble everybody's you know at the lunch table and I'm the guy going I don't want to sit at that lunch table I think this is the better lunch table
Starting point is 01:08:51 and damn it if the meal at my table didn't end up better Cardinals win always the case with me in sports everybody says oh he doesn't know he's talking about but no one ever circles back when I'm right and they're wrong a smoked carton this week what's up James can I circle back on the current fantasy standings just just one team
Starting point is 01:09:10 and second to last place is Will Kane at one and four with the second least points the only person with less points than Will is Tyrus who auto-drafted and hasn't set his lineup since the start. I'm a literal fantasy football expert. Hosted the show, boys.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Hosted the show. The best fantasy show. Sports is the riskiest thing to have a hot take-in. You could do it in politics or you do anything else. Why? Because it... In politics, you're never wrong.
Starting point is 01:09:42 You never have to face the music. Never have to face the music. Sports is people are so invested and know so much about it that you can say one little thing wrong. And your opinion does not matter after that. Yeah, but nobody keeps score, Dan. That's the problem.
Starting point is 01:09:56 All my victories have vanished into history. You know? You know who got Luca Donchich right? You know who got Luca Donchitrich right? This guy. Wow. And guess who was, I mean, it's easy now for me like Luke, uh-uh. You know what Max Kellerman said?
Starting point is 01:10:13 Take Marvin Bagley. You know what Stephen A. Smith said? Take D'Andre Aiton. You know, that one's on YouTube at least. You can see all. this. And I nailed Luca. I mean, nailed it. And so, but that's, that's one. But then what does Stephen Ais may say? You don't know basketball. I actually think the Luca versus DeAndre Aten take ought to be enough that at this point, I win. It's over. It's a knockout. I literally hit you in
Starting point is 01:10:36 the temple. You're on the ground cold. And I don't think you can get back up. Lucca. This is him being, hey, Sam Bowie is better than Michael Jordan. And we'll be in like, I'd go with Jordan. And at that point, would you take the Sam Bowie guy seriously ever again? Never, never. I'm fired up about that right now. That's I'm smoking the experts. By the way, as an expert, can we get Brock Heward on the show? The Outkick Top 12 came out, college football teams,
Starting point is 01:11:03 and he did not have Texas in his top 12. Not one of the top 12. Brock Heward's a friend of the program. What in the world, Brock? Like, what in the world? Are you projecting that by the end of the year, Texas, Is that what you're doing? Are you looking down the road?
Starting point is 01:11:18 You're saying they're going to lose to Georgia and Oklahoma and Vanderbilt? Or are you saying right now they're not one of the 12 best teams in the country? I need answers, Brock Heward. It has to be a typo. Last week, Trey Wallace did the same thing. We found out it was a typo over at Outkick. A lot of typos are going on with Texas. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:41 You'd think tin foil pat would be on top of that. Of all his conspiracies, he's not. on top of that one. You know, a lot of typos. Why do all the typos only hit the longhorns? Robert Sala, head coach of the New York Jets, fired this morning. Jets lost to the Vikings in London this weekend. Aaron Rogers not playing well.
Starting point is 01:12:03 It's the source of huge debate in sports media. But that doesn't seem enough. Like, the Jets are two and three. That doesn't seem enough for Woody Johnson, the owner of the New York Jets, for the first time I believe in his career to ever fire a coach mid-season. It doesn't seem enough. And two of days, you pointed out,
Starting point is 01:12:25 the Jets are like in second place, even at two and three in the AFC East. Yeah, it's a week. Not that far back of who? Yeah, they're not playing terrible. I mean, Aaron Rogers isn't who he used to be, but they're not horrible. It's not a fire sale type situation.
Starting point is 01:12:42 So there's two interesting observations. I'm not going to call them things. Okay. One is the one everybody's talking about, which is Aaron Rogers just fired Robert Sala. Now, I don't know. I don't know the Rogers Sala relationship. I don't know. I would imagine that Rogers has the power to completely warp that dynamic and I think he would win a power contest, right? But I don't know. Then there's another thing going around. And I'm telling you, this is short of a theory. But this is like journalism. This is worth a question. The Daily Mail has an article up. Robert Sala in London this year. wore a pullover, Nike. Under the Nike pullover symbol, he had a Lebanon flag. Now he's Lebanese by descent. And apparently he's done it in the past. He did it a year ago in October. So before you read too much into it, he did it a year ago as well. But it does come where Israel's launched a war on Hezbollah and literally bombed southern Beirut. So was he making a statement? and is it a statement that could have ticked off Woody Johnson, owner of the New York Jets,
Starting point is 01:13:49 who is a big Republican. I haven't heard Woody Johnson. He was an ambassador to the U.K., I haven't heard him on Israel's war, so I'm not sure where he is. But I think it's pretty, how about that? It's just an interesting observation because there's not a good reason why Robert Sala. In my estimation, is fired today. Yes, they're not good. What are you guys all laughing at?
Starting point is 01:14:16 In my estimation. Happened again. Oh. You did it. Take a shot. Take a shot. Donaldo El Donaldo Trompez. I hope you're not drunk.
Starting point is 01:14:28 I'm sorry that I once again said in my estimate. But can I say about this real quick that Aaron Rogers, I feel like that's the ability. In my estimation, Dan, in my estimation, not accessible conversational technique. Not a phrase that makes me connect to the vote. voters. That's very Kamala Harris of me. That's not Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, George Bush. You know? You just say, you don't even say, I think. I should be saying, I feel. I feel. Is it like a filler? Do you do it as like a filler thing? I don't know why I do what I do, Dan.
Starting point is 01:15:01 We don't either. Because you went to college or something. UT Law, man. Go ahead now, two of days. No, I was going to say, I think Aaron Rogers is that type of quarterback at this point in his career that has the ability to get someone gone. I mean, we saw it with Mike McCarthy. Absolutely. So I feel like it could just be, he's not happy with the way things are going. You know, they're not using Brees Hall well.
Starting point is 01:15:21 They're not using Garrett Wilson well. You know, I think he just might want a game plan change. And he was the, you know, byproduct of that. I wonder if our buddy Ian O'Connor could be. Would know. Oh, let's call him. Let's call Brock Heward and say, what the hell, Brock? And let's call Ian O'Connor and say,
Starting point is 01:15:38 what's up with Aaron Rogers? I'm going to do a little journalism. We'll follow up here. For tomorrow, right here on the Will Cain Show. We'll see you same time, same place. Fox News.com, Fox YouTube, Fox, Facebook, Apple, Spotify. I will see you again next time. Listen, ad-free, with a Fox News podcast plus subscription.
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