Will Cain Country - OutKick's Bobby Burack! Vice President Harris BOMBS '60 Minutes!' PLUS, Gov. DeSantis Calls Her Out Over Hurricane Milton
Episode Date: October 8, 2024Story #1: '60 Minutes,' 'The View,' 'Call Her Daddy,' Stephen Colbert. Vice President Kamala Harris' media blitz is in full force. Will she be able to withstand the awareness of the average American?... Story #2: Will and Outkick Columnist Bobby Burack answer questions from you, the listener. Plus, an honest look at the state of the election. Story #3: Did Aaron Rodgers force the firing of his head coach, or was this political? The crew discusses the real reason the New York Jets fired Head Coach Robert Saleh Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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One, 60 Minutes, The View, Call Her Daddy, Howard Stern, Stephen Gulpair.
The Kamala Harris Media Blitz is in full force.
How's it going?
Now they're getting to know her.
Well, Americans like Kamala Harris.
Two, a mail bid bag with outkick, columnist,
Bobby Barrett.
Three.
More than an observation, less than a theory,
why suddenly was head coach Robert Sala fired by the New York Jets.
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He's going to bring you into you.
to the show. Some of the questions that have come in, for me, we can take and answer. And we'll also
address one of the most interesting controversies, sort of flying under the radar because it has
nothing to do with either presidential candidate, nothing to do with Kamala Harris, nothing to do
with Donald Trump, but an interesting media controversy at CBS. We'll get into all that, plus
Robert Sala a little bit later with Bobby Burrack here on the Will Kane show. But let's get into
A new page that has been turned in the race for president.
Something has changed this week.
And it is that we are all of a sudden seeing more, more and more and more of
of Kamala Harris.
Story number one.
Today, Tuesday, we seem to be about 24 hours out from landfall of Hurricane Milton
hitting Florida.
what was at one time a category five hurricane has now been downgraded to a category four but there are even discussions about whether or not it could re-energize up to something that does not exist which is a category six regardless it's the storm surge has been described to me and you really have never seen i haven't seen so many meteorologists so concerned at the outset ahead of a storm as they have been with milton it's about the storm surge it's about 12-foot sea rises around tampa
Bay. It's been described to me by Fox and Friends chief meteorologist Rick Reichmuth that think of
Tampa Bay like a catcher's mitt. Everything flows in and then it has nowhere to go. All that water
gets pushed into Tampa Bay and has nowhere to go but up and on to land. So you're looking at like
12 foot storm surges. Everyone has been warned to leave. The mayor of Tampa Bay has said if you stay
you will die. There is also, sadly, a political fight taking place. Of course, it starts with
Helene and is now metastasizing into Milton. Kamala Harris, for her part, came out and said that
Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida was politicizing a storm, why he wouldn't take her call. Of course,
there's a lot of criticism about FEMA, about the federal government's response to Helene in
North Carolina. And she painted a picture that Ron DeSantis was placing politics above
saving Floridians. Well, that was interesting when we first got to hear from Ron DeSantis
last night on Hannity. I want you to listen to the governor of Florida. For Kamala Harris
to try to say that my sole focus on the people of Florida is somehow selfish, is delusional.
She has no role in this. In fact, she's been vice president for three and a half years.
I've dealt with a number of storms under this administration. She has never contributed anything
to any of these efforts.
And so what I think is selfish
is her trying to blunder into this.
He's the first one who's trying to politicize the storm
and she's doing that just because of her campaign.
She's trying to get some type of an edge.
She knows she's doing poorly
and so she's playing these political games.
I don't have time for political games.
Now the details that I found most fascinating about that interview
didn't survive that cut here today on the Wilcane show.
And they are as follows.
heard Hannity say, has she ever called you before during those storms?
DeSantis says, no.
Then DeSantis reveals he's had multiple calls and he is in contact with President Joe Biden
and, of course, the director of FEMA.
So having no history through three and a half years of Kamala Harris ever reaching out
during a natural disaster, nor playing any important role in the response, recovery,
or preparations for a natural disaster, and instead going to the top,
in dealing with FEMA and Joe Biden,
I ask you, who is politicizing Hurricane Milton?
Kamala Harris suddenly wanting to connect
for the first time in an entire administration.
Wanting to connect with Ron DeSantis?
Or Ron DeSantis focused on the job at hand with Floridians
and connecting with her boss,
the one who currently is not running for president, Joe Biden.
That's a much fuller and more interesting
picture about who's playing politics with Hurricane Milton.
Now, another storm we're currently weathering is the media blitz for Kamala Harris.
In the past couple of days, we have seen Harris appear on 60 Minutes, call her daddy today, this
morning, The View, and tonight, CBS is Stephen Colbert.
Her running mate Tim Waltz has appeared on 60 Minutes, Fox News Sunday.
day regardless of what you think of these appearances we're going to get into informing you on what
to think of Kamala Harris it represents a turn of the page a change in strategy that there is no doubt
for the past two months the Harris campaign has lived in a bubble it has been protected it has
strove for a lack of exposure at least for lack of controlled or uncontrolled
controlled exposure. They're happy to speak from a podium. They're happy to speak at a rally.
But they weren't interested in putting her in environment. Not so much I would even say that
represents the potentiality for adverse questions, but that rather even requires her to think
off the top of her head, shoot from the hip, to think in real time, because they have understood
that to be a weakness. But obviously, something has changed. Some internal polling has suggested
you got to get out there, we've got to get you into mass media.
Now I said, not necessarily into adversarial environments.
I mean, that is not what's represented with Call Her Daddy or Howard Stern or Stephen Colbert.
And you would say it's not even what is represented when you appear on the view.
But whether or not it's adversarial or simply mass exposure, it doesn't seem by any stretch of the imagination
like it's going well for Kamala Harris.
This is her today on the view.
Would you have done something differently
than President Biden during the past four years?
There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of,
and I've been a part of most of the decisions
that have had impact.
Now, this is fascinating.
Have you noticed, if you watch Kamala Harris' interview on 60 Minutes,
You see this answer on the view.
I appreciate someone who appears to be unscripted, authentically thinking.
There's a glimmer of panic in Kamala Harris's eyes when she recognizes I now have to think.
Right there in that moment, and I'm shocked that it came from the view.
It came from Sonny Hosten.
It's not adversarial.
But it's a good question.
It is actually a really good question.
You see, Kamala Harris is running as a change candidate.
She's running as something new.
She's running to not represent incumbency.
And you can understand why.
According to CNN's Harry Inton,
only 25% of Americans feel like the country is on the right track.
That's really bad for an incumbent.
But despite trying to represent joy,
Kamala Harris, in reality, represents
incumbency.
She represents the last four years
and 75% of Americans don't feel good
about the last four years.
And in this unscripted moment on the view,
she's forced into a position to think
and she has to come up with an answer
that is not change.
It is more.
it is incumbency no i wouldn't do a single thing different than joe biden that is a campaign ad
for donald trump we saw something similar on 60 minutes this requirement to think and i will
once again give credit this time to 60 minutes and their reporter bill whittaker for
challenging comla harris and it was so fascinating to see her think
in real time
and listen to her here
again with 60 minutes
on illegal immigration
there was an historic
flood of
undocumented immigrants coming across the border
the first three years
of your administration
as a matter of fact arrivals
quadrupled from the last
year of President Trump
was it a mistake
to loosen the
immigration policies
as much as you did.
It's a long-standing problem.
And solutions are at hand.
And from day one, literally,
we have been offering solutions.
What I was asking was,
was it a mistake to kind of allow that flood
to happen in the first place?
I think the policies that we have been proposing
are about fixing a problem,
not promoting a problem, okay?
But the numbers did quadruple.
And the numbers today, because of what we have done, we have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half.
We have cut the flow of fentanyl by half.
But we need Congress to be able to act to actually fix the problem.
Now, this is fascinating.
For me, personally, I love the art of the interview.
I love listening.
I love debate.
And it's all in the follow-up.
It's never in the initial question.
Despite what we heard from the view,
which was a good, open-ended question
that put Kamala Harris on her heels,
what I believe the true art in the interview
is the follow-up.
And Whitaker follows up two or three times.
Now, ultimately, she is a fish
that gets to wriggle off the hook,
and here's why.
It's not about nailing the candidate.
It's not about gotcha.
It's about whether or not the candidate
can spin into talking points.
Okay, the question is,
is, should you have done in the first three and a half years what you've done in the past six
months? Whitaker lays out that numbers are down, that illegal immigration is down. And the Biden
administration is put into new policies through executive orders to constrain the flow of
illegal immigration. And the question is, should you have done that over the first three and a half
years? Now, Harris wants to go to her talking point. And her talking point is that Republicans and
Donald Trump killed a bipartisan bill that provides a solution, a long-term solution to illegal
immigration. But that is not on topic. It's not. It's under the banner of the topic,
meaning it's under the broad umbrella of illegal immigration, but it's not to the question asked
by Whitaker. And he does a good job of saying, no, but what I'm asking you is, should you,
if you have the capability, which has been shown of the last six months, exercise that capability
over the first three and a half years? And you can see her pivot and squirm.
And ultimately, she overtalks him when he tries to follow up a second time,
getting back to her talking point of a bipartisan border bill.
But you understand the logic here because I think it's fascinating.
And I do think you have to press.
And I don't know if he pressed a third time that we didn't see in that interview.
But you do have to press to say, wait, wait, wait,
I just need to follow the logic.
Clearly, the Biden administration has decided,
for whatever may be the motivation,
principle or politics that something must change and they changed it in the last i'd say
four to six months and illegal immigration numbers are down now if you had that power under
executive authority why did you wait three and a half years to exercise that power what did you do
the first three and a half years where we saw illegal immigration numbers quadruple by the way
that is astounding remember it's from two million illegal encounters up to
8 million illegal encounters.
The follow-up requires her to follow that logic.
And the true curiosity for any American voter is the why.
Why did you not?
We know why now you did because of politics.
But the question for the first three and a half years is,
why did you not?
And here's why it's so important.
Because once, presumably, you're re-elected in politics,
in its immediacy, there's no election for you once you become president
for four years, will you revert to?
Because it's very logical for the American public to assume
you'll revert to who you were
for the first three and a half years.
The art is in the follow-up.
And politicians are generally really practiced
at avoidance, at squirming, at wiggling off the hook.
The problem for Kamala Harris is she's too obvious about it.
She uses word salads, and they all use talking points.
But she wanders in the woods bumping into trees.
in order to avoid the direct confrontation.
Here's a great example.
He asks her about the economy.
Here it is again on 60 minutes.
My plan is about saying that when you invest in small businesses,
you invest in the middle class and you strengthen America's economy.
Small businesses are part of the backbone of America's economy.
But pardon me, Madam Vice President, the question was, how are you going to pay for it?
Well, one of the things is I'm going to make sure that the richest among us who can afford it pay their fair share in taxes.
It is not right that teachers and nurses and firefighters are paying a higher tax rate than billionaires and the biggest corporations.
And I plan on making that fair.
But we're dealing with the real world here.
But the real world includes...
How are you going to get this through Congress?
You know, when you talk quietly with a lot of folks in Congress...
Congress, they know exactly what I'm talking about because their constituents know exactly what I'm
talking about. Their constituents are those firefighters and teachers and nurses.
Now, this is a talking point. It's not a new talking point to Kamala Harris. This is a talking
point for decades of Democrats. Dave Portnoy of Barstall Sports put this well. He goes,
what does that mean, by the way, fair share? He said, I pay 50% in taxes. He's a very wealthy man,
having sold barstle now owning barstle again he pays 50% in taxes what is fair is it true that
there are teachers and nurses paying more than 50% in taxes and the answer is no obviously that is
not true now how does someone like comela harris you know look herself in the mirror while saying that
well what they're going to do is they're going to pivot and point to some very very wealthy individuals
probably in the billions but maybe in the hundreds of millions whose primary income at
this point is through capital gains. They don't take incomes. They don't take salaries. They have
enough wealth that they live off their wealth. Because at income, truly income tax, you know,
I don't know what fair means. That's for you to decide, you listening, you watching, but truly,
like wealthy people pay, first of all, depending on where you live, but it's going to fall somewhere
between 40 and 60 percent of their total income and taxes. And then, you know, you could say,
well, I don't know again, how do we inform what is fair? Well, I believe that the numbers are,
I don't have this in front of me, but like the wealthiest 1% pay, is it 70, 80% of the total
taxes collected? I can't remember what the number is. It might not be quite that high, but it's a
ridiculously high number. Now, if you want to have a separate conversation, I think that she does
about capital gains, because she's talked about taxing unrealized gains and raising the capital
gains rate and raising the corporate tax rate, that's a separate conversation. But it's also
not realistic to say it's going to pay for your $3 trillion over 10 years. Just not, just not
real. You know, one of the big pieces of feedback, I read the comments on 60 Minutes' YouTube
page. I'll bring you guys in New York into this. You know, one of the big comments on this
was that the interview was very choppy.
Did anyone else notice that?
Did you guys notice the jump cuts?
It's a recorded interview that is then packaged for 60 minutes.
Did for any of you guys that stand out the jump cuts?
A little bit, especially in that last one we played.
Like, I didn't cut that down like that.
No.
Especially they put out those like kind of teasers before the interview too.
So some of them are from that.
It's not hard to.
Well, I watched it.
It's not hard to hide that.
I watched it in its entirety,
and meaning a 20-minute version,
and it has those jump cuts.
Now, I want to talk about TV for just a minute
so people understand.
There are time constraints.
That's just the nature of TV, you know,
and you don't want the same time constraints
for your interview.
So I don't know,
let's say 60 minutes did a 20-minute interview
that airs on probably an hour program
with commercial breaks.
A 20-minute interview adds up to about 40,
to 45 minutes, well, 40 minutes of television. Then they had a little bit of Tim Walts in there,
which added another 5 to 10. And that's on the high end. Like, I think in one hour of television,
you actually end up with 40 to 45 minutes of actual viewing experience, right, taking out the
commercials. So now you say, okay, this interview is going to end up, let's just call it 42 minutes.
And we're going to use 20 of it for Kamala Harris. There's some, I don't know, maybe they do
a third story. You add a little bit of 5 to 10 for Tim Walts. And you end up with,
20 minutes for Kamala Harris.
They don't want to sit down with Kamala Harris
for 20 minutes. And you know,
the answer to that is obvious.
I actually don't know this with Kamala Harris because I haven't seen
too many answers or interviews with her, but I'll give
you both Donald Trump and Barack Obama.
That would be horrific. It would
literally be three questions.
Tops. They will talk
forever. Forever.
And then you have to make a decision
as an interviewer because of my time
constraints, do I interrupt?
And then you come off is very rude.
right? And I have interviewed Donald Trump now enough to know the pacing of his answers. And what he does
is if I ask him a question, he begins to answer the question. And then he falls into his own rabbit
hole. He chases thoughts. He chases everything that pops up into his mind. He really does.
He doesn't deprive himself. He almost goes on a mini stump speech. But then I do notice with
Donald Trump, again, because I've done it so many times, he comes back around at the end of your question.
Now, it may take 10 minutes, truly, seven-minute answer.
It may.
If you stick around, and it's asking a lot of the interviewer and the listener, the viewer, to stick around for that long, you will have him readdress the initial question.
I don't know with Kamala Harris.
So my point is, you have to cut it down.
And it's a shame.
I told you guys when my Fox and Friends Weekend co-host and I interviewed Donald Trump, the interview lasted 90 minutes.
Of course we didn't air 90 minutes
And Trump was like, let it air
I would just run the whole thing
It'll rate
Put it up
You know
But it's just not the nature of TV
Well, the comments on 60 Minutes YouTube
was air the entirety
Err the entirety.
Err, let us know
Now, you can do that
Because you have a YouTube page
And we did that here
We aired the entirety
of the Donald Trump interview
On the Will Kane show
And 60 Minutes could do that
Because here's what I'm left to wonder
With the jump cuts
was it saving Kamala Harris or hurting Kamala Harris?
I don't know.
I truly don't know.
Like those cuts on the economy.
She jumps in thoughts and you can see the camera angles change.
That's how you covered up, by the way.
It's how you cover up a cut for anybody that's unfamiliar.
You all of a sudden, they have what's called probably a three camera shoot.
They have a camera facing Kamala Harris, a camera facing the reporter,
and the one facing the reporter will have Kamala Harris's back.
see her back there. And then you'll have a two shot, one of both of them in the frame. And you can
switch between those three cameras to cover up when you cut someone in the middle of an answer.
And I don't know if she was worse or better uncut. I truly don't know. Now, this is part of,
hold on, this is part of Donald Trump. They made a point on 60 minutes. Donald Trump has said no
to 60 minutes. And I got to be.
honest. If I'm Donald Trump, I might as well because of the edit. I don't trust the edit.
And he would have a reason not to trust them because of the interview with Leslie Stahl from four
years ago on whether or not Hunter Biden's laptop was real or Russian disinformation. Now, he's saying
today that it was Russian disinformation. I've gone back and watched. She doesn't say that that I can
hear. She says it's unverified. Now, she ends up being wrong and Trump is right.
but Trump wants an apology.
Set aside with all he's going to get the apology.
I would just have a lack of trust in the edit.
And if it's Donald Trump,
I feel pretty confident they're not going to edit to help.
But if I'm Kamala Harris, I don't know.
And as a viewer, I don't know if they edited to help her or hurt her.
But I will say this, if they tried to help her,
it must have been really bad in the unedited version
because this is not going over well.
Go ahead, James.
Yeah, I mean, I think you just know some of the conversations
that happen in those producer rooms
at a network that might be a little more center left or there's probably folks saying do we
have a responsibility not to tank Harris's campaign by this or just similar things said to like
that and we won't know well this 60 minutes interview was not good for her campaign um this shows
I think a candidate that lacks the ability to think on their feet it probably shows a candidate
as well who hasn't who honestly if we're being real and we boil it down to it is on the C team
that's the truth this is C team Democrats Tim Walts and Kamala Harris and that may be good enough
because the election may simply be yet again for the you know third fourth time now
counting midterm elections a referendum on Donald Trump but you're not looking at even a
practiced in good politician for Democrats you are truly looking
not at JV.
I think you are truly looking
at C-Team.
We'll see if that's good enough
for America.
All right, coming up,
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60 minutes
asked
Kamala Harris
what kind of
gun is it
that you own?
She said a Glock
John Rich
of country music
stardom
big and rich
said,
wait a minute,
wait a minute,
wait a minute.
Kamala Harris
has advocated
for a restriction
on
magazine
capacity down to seven bullets every glock that he knows of goes to 10 or 15 bullets this is why you
ask a candidate to answer questions they're not prepared it's the will cane show streaming live at
foxnews.com on the fox news youtube channel on the fox news facebook page hit subscribe at apple
spotify or on youtube you can jump into the comments like has flipper kelly tim miller
says Flipper Kelly, discusses the fact
that Trump bailed out
on the traditional 60-minute interview
and Harris crushed it.
Good for Tim Miller.
I do not think that is probably the sentiment
of America.
Kendall Writings says,
I blame young establishment, James,
for the feed issues.
Wilcane Show was up and running a little late today.
As I understand it,
two days, as I understand it,
that's because you got a system reboot
everyone's familiar with the system reboot on their computer
one minute before show started
and then you have to go through the entire reboot
I got one of the blue screens of death
so I don't know what James has been looking at
on these computers over here
so James has nothing to do with the feeds
and uses his own laptop
hmm
well apologies for running a little bit late
here today on the Wilcane show
let's bring in outkick columnist Bobby Burrack
he joins us every so often provide us
with some feedback from the viewers
who runs us through a mailbag.
Before we get to some of the questions from viewers, Bobby,
I actually want to start with this 60 minutes interview again, if I might.
It was fascinating also to hear them press Kamala Harris on.
The reason that Americans are concerned about you
is that they do not know you,
and they do not know you because you have flip-flopped on issues.
And Bill Whitaker, the CBS correspondent,
walks through all of her flip-flops on issues.
Here's my question for you.
This is a conversation we began last week on the Will Kane show.
show and i ended up having it over breakfast with a friend on friday and we said you know being polished
sometimes is not a virtue in politics we were talking about jd vance who's in my estimation
really good and was once again yesterday on fox and friends really good but i do have to confront
that some of the polling for jd vance isn't good and even some of the results from the debate
not great and we began to discuss like maybe like being intelligent isn't a currency
bobby you and i talked about back in the days of ESPN trying to run smart television with
bomani jones and pablo tori intelligence is not a way that people connect and so you have to
show your own failings you have to be real you have to show your own vulnerability in short you
have to be human and in a way you talk often belies your humanity and if you look at presidents
And I'm going to go back. Bill Clinton, ate cheeseburgers and gave into his gluttony.
George W. Bush sounded in eloquent. Donald Trump talks in simplistic terms, rhetoric, and words.
And Joe Biden even had his own limitations that kept him unpolished. The only exception is Barack Obama.
And I do wonder, like, I'll apply this to Kamala Harris, because we start with J.D. Vance, but we move to Kamala Harris.
do you think there's something that in the end could be virtuous about when i say virtuous i mean
ability to appeal to voters about her lack of polish and could i should i be looking for a
curveball here in fact when it comes to comel harris well i think two things are true at once
excuse me that observation is correct um just funny timing alix cooper is in my estimation
the second or first most influential podcaster in the country.
Why?
Because she's just a normal person.
Even though she's really rich now,
she started out just talking like girls talk.
And that was really appealing to a lot of people
as opposed to some stiffy journalists who ask what they're supposed to ask.
But the problem is with Conla Harris,
I don't get the sense that she talks like normal people.
She talks like she is uncomfortable, off-putting, and honestly, dishonest.
I think that's the difference, right?
Trump, George W. Bush, you could say, well, that's the way I talk with my friends.
And that's a really comforting feeling.
Kamla Harris doesn't give off that vibe.
She doesn't give off a polished vibe, but she gives off a vibe where it's a bit contrived,
but it's just not coming across the way she wants to.
So in the case of J.D. Vance, I do think that is a bit of a concern, but I don't think in
the inverse that we should be concerned that Kamala Harris is going to gain support for, I think,
her lack of really saying the things that she wants to say. It looks often like the words
aren't matching her intentions. I think that's exactly right. I think that's really, really
fair. You know, people have pointed out, I have a tendency during an interview to nod.
when I'm listening to people.
It's sort of a new thing that I've developed,
and I don't know why I do it,
because it doesn't signal agreement from me always.
It's kind of encouragement for someone to continue talking.
Kamler is to something different.
She nods along to her own words.
She nods along to when she receives a moment in a sentence
that she thinks is profound and nods at it,
and it's not profound.
And it's like the MSNBC tick of saying,
right. Do you know what I'm talking about? Have you noticed the tick? It's particular on MSNBC and it may be with
young people listening where you say something and halfway through your sentence you say right and it forces
the listener to agree with you. That's kind of the implication when they don't. It's kind of Kamala Harris
does that nonverbally. She says something and if you'll notice she'll nod at a at a word halfway
through her sentence and you're like that wasn't that profound. Why are you nodding? It feels very fake.
Yeah. And the other ones you mentioned, whether it be Trump, Bill Clinton, Bush, and particularly Barack Obama, they were persuasive. They were convincing. She's not. Like when she's talking on air, you don't really buy what she's selling. Obama was a unique case where the presentation was so strong that you wanted to run through a wall for him. And then you read the transcript. And it's like, well, that sounded good. But it's kind of nonsense when you actually read it and don't.
don't put the face and the voice behind those words.
Kamala Harris has none of that going for her.
Cause I watched that entire 60 minute interview.
I watched the entire CNN interview.
Those are the only two national interviews.
I think she's done on television since emerging as the nominee.
She's not convincing.
In a lot of ways, she seems like she is lying and no she's lying.
So she resorts to that famous cackle that I think in a lot of ways makes viewers trust her even less.
Let's go back to, like, the days in high school.
You always knew the kid was lying when their face got red.
They started to smile, laugh.
That's how I see her.
I'm going to have to start striving for a bit more self-awareness.
El Donato Trumpez on YouTube says,
I'm going to have to start taking a shot every time Will says, in my estimation.
I didn't even know, Eltonado, that I do that.
I didn't even know that I said in my estimation, but now I'm going to be super self-conscious
and strive for a little more self-awareness.
Speaking of that, Bobby Barak, columns atoutkick.com, joins us on occasion.
He comes to us with often mailbag questions from viewers and listeners, and today is no different.
He has some questions for us here today on the Will Kane show.
First of all, Will, we do have a great list of mailbag questions, but I actually want to start
with a question I have for you and the crew.
Is that good?
yep all right so i live in michigan i am most of my family is from poland we don't tan very well
we're a pretty pale family and the more i do these hits with you dockage and rachel camp
post off the other people i noticed one thing i looked too pale and i really noticed it in like
late august and it was too late to just go out in the sun and catch up with you guys so i started
going to the tanning salon full disclosure oh no yeah yeah yeah so um i've been going for about
three weeks now not a lot just here and there i'm the only guy at the salon and there's a lot of
people there so i'm going to open it up to you james dan tinfoil is it okay for straight guys to go
to the tanning salon no no oh this is a tough one buddy answer uh i should say maybe i'll start
with this. I'm not sure it's working. I don't know how, I don't know how pale you were before,
but you don't strike me today as tan. Here's what I, here's what I said. You want to ask about
when not straight, yeah, it's right. And by the way, it's super bad for you, Bobby. Like,
you're Polish, you're naturally pale, you're from Wisconsin. Don't go zap your skin, like with
cancer rays. Now, I mean,
Sun and vitamin D, that's all good.
But I don't, you know, if you're from Jersey, the answer is yes, straight guys can go.
Maybe everywhere else is the answer no?
Like Jersey, like if we made a map of the United States on straight guys, the tanning salon,
do you think that it's a like no asterisk jersey?
Like, I think, you know, there's not many other communities where it's like, yeah, you should go.
By the way, you could spray tan.
And I'm not saying to do that either.
Don't do that, but that would be healthier than laying down in the tanning bed.
Well, I will say, so I live in a pretty blue collar area with a lot of working class guys.
And I've asked them this question.
And, I mean, they just think the whole idea is preposterous to even consider a straight guy going to tanning salon.
But I wanted to ask you guys, because you spent a lot of time in New York.
I know James and Dan are New Yorkers, New Jersey area, Patrick's and Jacksonville.
So I wanted to hear your opinion.
But I will say this, just a full disclosure.
I do think it's working because I put that little sticker on.
And when I remove that sticker, skin's a lot darker than it was before.
So I'm going to push back a little bit on the...
I'd like a little before and after pick.
That's what I'd like, before and after pick.
Have you ever been to the tanning salon?
I'm going to be honest.
I'm just trying to think about how to be honest.
I have.
I'll admit it.
I don't think I've been.
I don't think I've been.
But that doesn't mean that I haven't been in a tanning bit.
To get into my dad and who my dad was would be a very complicated and long conversation.
But long and short, my dad was a unique dude, small town, Texas, attorney, like sports car, guns.
It's just, it's complicated, man.
It's very complicated.
but he had a tanning bed he bought one
and so I had one in my house growing up right
and so yeah I got in it back then
but I don't know that I've ever been to a tanning salon
all right
well I will add this
he's not a camera right now but
one of your producers is actually under the impression
that the sun is worse for your skin
than the tanning race
No.
I never said that.
Didn't then
Tinfoil Pat
Was it on sunscreen?
He's not on the screen.
Tinfoil Pat probably would
I mean if
I think today
you know James and Dan
you could weigh in on this
judging from our morning note
I'm trying to keep this show
from going in the direction
of cloud seating this morning
and
and keep any national
weather talk from descending into
conspiracies, but
tinfoil's thoughts on tanning
I'm sure reach levels that I've never even considered, right?
Like, there's simple,
there's simple
anti-establishment thinking, like, that'd be Rachel Campos Duffy.
Like, oh, all this sun is bad for you, that's nonsense.
You need the sun, which I'm inclined to agree with.
And, you know, you should eat processed food,
you should eat whole foods. Again, I'm inclined to agree with.
you know but pat would take it to another level bobby that i don't even want to explore like
there's solar flares that emerge on a monthly basis and they are the ones that you want to actually
but they're the ones you want to experience like go out once a month get the solar flare that's a
true good exposure to vitamin d like i don't even want to know where tinfoil pat's mind is on this right
now but i do want to know what you have for us from the viewers what you have in your mailbag
so i'm going to start with a fun one here because we're all having a good time this comes from
Ryan in Virginia, Will and Bobby, would you rather Trump win the election or your favorite team
win the Super Bowl this season?
Well, so, Cowboys are Trump.
Cowboys are Trump.
It's funny, like, if that person from Virginia asked me about any of the other sports,
I would, it wouldn't be as difficult because I've had, I've experienced, I've tasted a little more
victory you know um i can just hear the comments right now how dare you even consider putting sports
on the same level as the future of the country i can just hear it right now just relax tough guy
for a minute okay just be a human for a moment the answer is i want what's best for the country
over the cowboys winning the super bowl cowboys have lost a little bit of my passion this year
they truly have now longhorns yeah you know longhorns win the national championship
No, I will opt for the future of the country.
I do think every election since 2008 has been a question for a sliding scale of taking America down the path of socialism
and more like every other country in the world, each one like a roller coaster gaining steam,
four year after cycle after four year cycle.
And this roller coaster has to stop.
And that's more important to me than the Cowboys winning.
But I do like a Super Bowl.
I will say, Ryan, this question is.
isn't really fair when you pose it to Will and I because his team is like a borderline
playoff team. The Detroit Lions might just win the Super Bowl. I mean, like, I'm not being
biased here. You're going to ask me like, hey, who's going to win this year? Chiefs are pretty
banged up. The 49ers aren't as good. I think the Lions have a real shot. So come February,
Trump might be in the White House and the Lions might be Super Bowl champions. I might not have to
choose. But I'm with you. I think you have to opt for what is best for the country.
you, but I will say just I do want to provide this one counter. If your team wins the Super Bowl,
nobody can ever take that away from you. In four years, the president, kind of old news. And we have
new ministrations every four years. I just want to say, the lasting effects of a team winning a
Super Bowl, you remember that forever. I'm not sure we'll remember when we're about to die who wins
this election. I think we could. I'd like to believe that Trump. I'd like to think the Trump
represents a fundamental change in the status quo of American politics, especially without a
re-election on the horizon, you know, another term, more free to pursue exactly who it is he
would like to be. I'd like to think it would have a little more lasting effect for America.
Bobby, I've got something for you. Anne Breitrick on YouTube says, Bobby is whiter than me.
Ha, ha, ha, ha. Of course, we don't know how white Anne is, but there's, the jury's coming back.
the jury's coming back on your complexion
well i'll say this a lot of people
wearing makeup so they're darker so you got to think like
will might be tanner than me but you add on the makeup
and just want to let everybody know it's not quite as a
landslide victory as you might think if i put on a little makeup
that's fair i do tan might be a different story
we'll get you some bronzer like megan kelly implored
uh the margaret brinnon the cbs
moderator after the vice president's lebeck get some bronzer
Bob, you brought up to call her daddy.
I was so happy to see that because it made me feel pretty good about myself, seeing how pale she was.
So I actually want to see more of her on TV because it makes Polish guys like me look more normal.
Bobby, you brought up Call Her Daddy, Alex Cooper.
Alex Cooper and Kamala Harris had a really pretty interesting exchange.
Well, they talked about women.
The entire podcast was about women and getting the women vote.
And I have a clip that I want to play for you.
You had mentioned that Alex Cooper is sort of in touch with regular girls.
I don't think this is a great example for either Alex Cooper or Kamala Harris.
Watch.
Almost one in four Gen Z and millennials say they don't want to have kids because it's too damn expensive.
How are you going to help young people not feel left behind?
First of all, it's a very real issue and we need to take it seriously.
And I do take it very seriously.
So there are a number of issues that contribute to that feeling.
One is housing is too expensive.
Second piece is $25,000 down payment assistance for first-time home buyers.
Because a big issue in terms of the barrier to being a homeowner is just having enough to actually put that down payment down, right, to get your foot in the door.
So, Bobby, I think what the issue here is, people have pointed out, that's two millionaires without kids.
talking about how it's too expensive to have kids.
This is like, you know, a little bit, ladies, have some self-awareness.
You can afford kids.
And now, even if you say you're speaking for other people,
there are a lot of people who have kids throughout history
and throughout the world that have done so without millions.
Was it the issue with a lot of these normal people-turned successful broadcasters,
Joe Rogan, Alex Cooper, Dave Portnoy, Howard Stern, is that they build their brands around speaking
to the common man, or in this case, the common woman, and they get so uber rich that it seems
like they lack self-awareness. So you have to ask yourself, do the listeners understand that?
I actually disagree somewhat. I think that's a very real concern. I talked about it in a new
column I had. This is not my opinion, but speaking to a lot of women, let's say 25 to 40,
most of them would identify, I think, as conservatives.
They're very worried about this topic.
They're very worried about the GOP's messaging on women.
And I think Trump and Vance have to be cognizant of that.
Because it's not just liberal women who think the GOP wants them barefoot in the kitchen.
I don't think that's what they want, but that's what the perception is.
And that's a real problem.
So I think Kamala doing this interview with Alex Cooper really feeds into that message.
I saw a lot of people say, well, look at this YouTube number isn't that high.
It doesn't really matter.
This is a show that actually does most of its influence via audio podcast on Apple and Spotify,
which last I check is the number one episode of the week so far.
So I disagree with the people dismissing this interview as non-influential.
I think it could have a minor impact, not just on what women think.
think, but young women who planned on not voting might now vote because Alex Cooper is telling
them to. Don't dismiss that. Well, I think you're right on a couple of notes. First, let's just
contextualize how big it is, call her daddy. It's up there with Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson. It's huge.
Well, I believe, and you know better than I do, Bobby, that it's a hundred million dollar contract
with Sirius XM, I believe, over three years, so 30 million a year.
And you and I've talked about this.
There are some people who have signed really big deals in media that you'd say,
well, I'm not sure that's going to pay off.
Like, can they monetize it above that?
This, I will say, Alex Cooper has signed successive deals with Spotify,
Barstool, Spotify, and now Sirius XM,
where clearly her show is monetized at a level that it's worth that much money.
It literally makes that much money.
Yeah, I think it's actually, I think your reporting numbers, 125.
I've heard from people's closer to 150 million all in, so 150 divided by three.
You guys can do the math.
Spotify released some internal data in January, and I'd actually argue she has more passionate listeners than Rogan.
Rogan's a really interesting example in which people subscribe to his podcast, and people are
aware of who he's interviewing, but they don't necessarily listen unless the person he's interviewing
is of interest to them, meaning someone might listen to Rogan once a month. Cooper's audience
tends to listen every episode. This isn't me shilling for her or Kamla Harris. I thought the
optics of the interview were awful, but I don't want to discount and live in a bubble to say
this interview doesn't matter. As far as messaging, it was pretty smart.
And we can all criticize the idea of talking about abortion, why people in North Carolina are dying.
And I agree.
I do not think it was a good look, but I also don't think Alex Cooper's audience cares.
They don't probably not all that political.
She mentioned off the top of the show, hey, I'm not the person to ask about the economy or the border,
but I'm here to talk about women's issues or women's rights, as she would say.
And that's what her audience cares about.
So I can separate what I think personally and what I think that her audience is going to take from that interview.
I agree.
I also agree that the women's vote and the way that it's trending and the issues that are important to them are highlighted there.
And I think that you're right that it's not given enough attention by the GOP.
All right, I want to share a few comments from the audience and then get you to bring another question in from the mailbag.
Ricky LaFleur says Kamala Harris talks like a fourth grade teacher talking down to kids all day
and takes it home and applies it in her everyday life.
I think that's a very good analogy.
It does remind you of an elementary school teacher.
Joe Yonk says, if you listen to her words and think about her response,
you understand this is all part of her plan.
She meant to let the illegal immigrants run rampant.
That's the question, Joe.
Like that's why I think the follow-up, before you join us, Bobby,
I was talking about the art of the follow-up in 16.
minutes and getting her to a point to acknowledge she's doing something different today than
they did the first three and a half years leading to the most important question why and then angela tippets
on youtube says for all our blue friends on here do your research and ask the hard questions you're
being gaslit and lied to get the facts not the feelings what else do you have for us bobby from
the mailbag i'm going to stick on the topic of caller daddy this comes from jamie in colorado
Would Will do an episode of Call Her Daddy if he didn't know the questions?
Yes.
Yes.
I'm not afraid.
There isn't a single, like you could ask me anyone, pretty much, anyone, I probably would.
I probably would do the interview.
Well, let me rephrase that.
Any topic, any topic, right?
Like, I'm not afraid.
So Alex Cooper's podcast, let's be clear, it's basically like audio pornography, right?
It was smut.
That's what it was.
I'm not degrading it.
I'm describing it.
And it led to a massive audience.
She's mainstreamed it somewhat since then.
She hasn't left behind that niche.
She still talks about, you know, best ways to give a BJ or whatever it may be.
But like, she was cosmopolitan ramped up in audio form.
No, she wasn't.
She might have been even Playboy, right?
She was literally like, she might even been hustler in audio form.
And it led to a huge audience.
And now she's mainstreamed to the point where she's getting the vice president of
United States.
And it's made me wonder, wow, well, should you've gone down that path?
Like, if you think about, here would be an interesting question.
I'm being somewhat joking, but like, if you look back on media,
how many people have well worn that same path?
like a path of ill-reputed, you know, disres, what's the right word, not respectable,
parlaying a big audience into respectability.
I mean, Stern did it.
Okay, that's what he did.
He went from the same thing, shock jock, to where he became basically America's number
one celebrity interviewer and quote unquote legit, right?
I don't know who else, but there's a lot that went down that path.
And by the way, back to your direct question to me, I wouldn't be afraid.
There's no question that I'm going to, I'm afraid of.
I'll be able to answer it.
And I'll be able to, I mean, Fox will never let me go on any of these shows.
But I would be able to keep it between the lines.
Yeah.
Excuse me.
I'm always nasally on your show.
So on a more serious note, like from the business standpoint, the reason why she was able
to break through is actually quite simple to me.
So look at everything like a pie chart.
So you look at a shoulder.
in politics. I think Ben Shapiro probably has the most successful political podcast.
The problem is there's so many. What market share does he own? One percent maybe, probably
less than one percent. In politics is a pretty big pie. Same with sports. Big pie, but part of my
takes market share is probably pretty small. Sex talk might be the biggest pie and she owns probably
80 percent of that market share. It's very similar to Dave Ramsey in the sense of
well is his show better than other radio shows i don't know but he dominates the business talk
market share so that niche is really important particularly when it's not a small niche but a big
one um but yeah i think you could do the show look clay Travis who's a mutual friend of both of
ours he's advocating for Alex to actually invite him on the show he's ready to go he wants to go on
next week well of course of course it's a huge audience
Like I'd say it's clearly
I know, of course
Bring me on.
Yeah, we all know why you want to go on.
Yeah.
But, you know, one last point on this
and then I want to move on.
The other thing is, like you talk about sex talk.
I saw some people, I'll say,
like, Stephen A did this for a little bit.
He's not doing it now.
Shan Sharp is doing it.
Where it's like you try to go the opposite way.
Like you kind of come from the world of legitimacy
and then try to indulge the sex talk.
and that's super cringy.
Like, so it's almost like you have to wear the path
of Howard Stern and Alex Cooper.
I mean, again, you and I are only being analytical here,
not cheerleading anyone's type of content.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we're just kind of like analyzing it,
but like to see it try to work the other way,
it doesn't work.
Like, I don't want to see Shannon Sharp talking about sex.
Well, hold on, let me ask you a question.
This, people might not like this,
but I think it's a pretty fair question.
is it because they come from
legitimized media
or is it because they're guys
like I don't think a guy
could do call her daddy nearly as well
I think it's different.
Stern.
Stern.
Yeah, but he wasn't really talking about
himself having sex.
That's what really do they show up
was that she would talk about.
He literally had women.
He had women sit on speakers
on air.
All right.
All right.
Start's a fair one.
Maybe you need to watch the movie
private parts.
I want to ask you about this story
because I find it fascinating
it's going to take a little bit of setup
for the audience
Tanahasi Coates
best described as sort of the patron saint
of DEI
he is like the most revered figure
within the anti
I don't know that he ever fully grabbed
the mantle of the anti-racist movement
but he pre-dated the anti-racist movement
like Tanahsi Coates got big in
I'd say 10-11 in that range
you know, the anti-racist movement of Ibram Kendi comes along in like 1718, 16, 17, 18.
But Ta-Nehisi Coates is revered in that world.
Okay, he goes to Gaza, I believe, or maybe it was the West Bank.
He writes a new book.
He's got a new book out.
And it's very much from the viewpoint in championing the side of the Palestinians.
He goes on CBS this morning last week.
And he's challenged, again, in a shocking way by CBS by their morning anchor, Tony Doecoble.
This is how it sounds on that CBS This Morning Show.
I imagine if I took your name out of it, took away the awards and the acclaim,
took the cover off the book, the publishing house goes away.
The content of that section would not be out of place in the backpack of an extremist.
And so then I found myself wondering, why does Tanahashi Coates,
who I've known for a long time, read his work for a long time, very talented, smart guy,
leave out so much?
Why leave out that Israel is surrounded by countries that want to eliminate it?
Why leave out that Israel deals with terror groups that want to eliminate it?
Why not detail anything of the first and the second intifada,
the cafe bombings, the bus bombings, the little kids blown to bits?
And is it because you just don't believe that Israel in any condition has a right to exist?
Well, I would say the perspective that you just outlined,
there is no shortage of that perspective in American media.
That's the first thing I would say.
I am most concerned always with those who don't have a voice, with those who don't have the ability to talk.
As a side note, I just wanted to tell audience, after yesterday's show, we had Trey Yankst on the show live from Cabot's Berry in Southern Israel, the site of just horrific slaughter.
Trey was great, and we were talking about Black Saturday.
I had started Trey's book before the interview.
I continue to read it
on the plane home yesterday
it is an absolute page turner
and everyone listening
Bobby knows I don't do this
like I don't sit there and go
you should, it's a page turner
and what happened Bobby
it was October 7th yesterday
I actually ended up on X last night
it's not the best way to do this
before you go to bed but I found a thread
and just ended up on this
I saw videos I'd never seen
I saw really bad stuff
from a year ago
I mean it is shocking man
so anyway
that made me think about that and listen to Tonahe Hosey Coates.
And by way, Coates wasn't upset at the question.
It didn't seem to be.
But people at CBS were.
CBS has taken that moment and said it did not live up to their standards and practices.
From that, they had a morning editorial call yesterday and their CBS legal correspondent,
I'm forgetting her name, but she stood up in defense of Docapul and said,
what are you talking about?
Like Coates wrote a one-sided account, Docapul challenged it.
That's what you're supposed to do.
And if you're telling me that doesn't live up to our standards and practices, I don't know my job here.
I don't know how to interview people.
And this is a pretty fascinating moment for CBS.
Yes.
Excuse me.
A couple things.
I want to set it up.
So, Tanahashi Coates believes, this is what he's known for.
I just want to provide a little background.
He believes in the Marxian worldview that success is the result of exploitation, meaning that if a group is successful,
he inherently believes it's because they have exploited another demographic.
So it makes sense.
I wrote a column about this in May.
I'm not about how the pro-Palestinian movement and the BLM movement are pretty much the same thing.
So he believes that white people are successful in America because they have exploited black people.
He applies that same logic to Israel and what's happening in Gaza that, well, Jewish people are successful because of how they've treated.
Palestinians. So I'm not surprised at all that he would be so defensive of Palestine when you
consider how defensive he is to black Americans in America. I just want to set that up.
I think it's a really fascinating concept about why people who support Palestine also support BLM.
So number two, as far as the interview goes, CNN's exact quote was that it was he failed to meet
standards of impartiality. It was the exact quote.
Did Margaret Brennan and Nora O'Donnell, did they uphold impartiality during that VP debate?
I don't think so.
What were all the times that PBS pushed the Russia hoax or the way they've covered the election, according to newsbusters?
About 95% of their coverage of Donald Trump has been negative.
And about 89% of their coverage of Kamala Harris has been positive.
So this is not an impartial news organization, but all of a sudden.
Wait, wait, Bobby.
So wouldn't you guess what happened here?
Wouldn't you guess what happened here is that internally some big Tanahasi Coates fans at CBS,
perhaps within the DEI department or the HR department, raised a stink.
It was like, how dare you describe him as in league with extremists?
You know, to me, it's either one of two things.
It's either that, there's either an internal faction at CBS who is very, very pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel.
I'm less inclined to believe that.
but that is more bought into Tanahasi Coates is untouchable.
How dare you?
Basically, with the implication, it would be racist for you not to kiss his ass on CBS.
Yeah, and that goes back to this why I started off with the connection to Black Lives Matter
because the people who are outraged over those questions in their minds, well, that means
CBS thinks that BLM is an extremist movement, which I do believe that.
I think that the organization Black Lives Matter is an extremist Marxist organization.
So absolutely people in the legacy media in New York where CBS is based, I'm sure there was internal pushback.
Not only that, I'm sure the media matters, New York Times, those media journalists, they probably also reached out.
And CBS wanted to get a half. I'm sure.
So this comes down to, again, the outrage machine continues to dictate decision-making from very powerful American corporations.
There were a few lines during that interview.
I did think the anchor, Tony, I don't know how you to say his last name.
I thought he got a little emotional.
Like when he's like, so you don't even think Jewish people deserve to exist.
Israel.
I think he says Israel, yeah.
Maybe he says Israel, yeah, which again, I think is a fair question given some of the arguments that the pro-Palestinian advocates have made.
But from my understanding, he, Coates did not make that point in his essay.
So I think the anchor who converted to Judaism probably was a bit emotional, but so are every other anchor.
I mean, that's right.
You know what?
I would submit he was not a hundred,
100% objective. He pushed back, and I think that's fair. Yeah. He's not, he, but to your point,
why does he have to be and no one else does at CBS? Like, that's the real question. Yeah, I mean,
there's a new interview. It's from New York Times, but Maggie Haberman and Trump, for some reason,
Trump keeps talking to her. I don't know why, but she is not an objective arbiter of the news.
None of these people are. And the same goes on the right. Like, I'm not going to cheerleet and say,
this side is objective um you know i wrote a column yesterday about where i think the election stands
and part of the reason i wrote is because i'm so sick of the people who have access to the megaphone
just lying to the listeners and readers all these people have an agenda almost everybody has
a cbs has an agenda and i think in this case the yanker had an agenda where he was probably
very pro-israel and he was across from somebody who's not and cbs took the side of coats
all right we're going to leave it there today that we've gone long on the show but i'm
going to leave you with this bobby toy white says on youtube bobby is hilarious have him back
don't forget that will is tan because he hangs in the texas hell of sun so i got i got to read one too
so clay Travis text me and he said my goodness are you voting for comla harris all natural tan all
natural tans only so clay's hosting a show right now so i don't know i can't assume he was listening
uh if he was we're really taken off here on the will cane show so much so that other show hosts
are watching us in real time uh but the uh i think clay's right bobby go play take up golf
or go do something to get your ass outside that's what you need to do you're too much inside
it's not true i go outside i just don't see any results so it's hereditary
the barack family can have picnics barbecues be outside in the sun the next day we all look
ghostly sun doesn't well i mean i believe you because i'm looking at the results of the tanning
booth so i believe you all right outkick column next to bobby barack here on the will cane
show i'll see you again next time thank you bobby
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Do you guys realize back in New York, this is what I always got.
Okay, always got when I spent five years in sports.
Stephen A. Smith, you don't know sports.
You know politics.
Cheap ad homonym nonsense attack.
And then the stuff on Twitter or whatever.
Because I'd say something.
Here's the way works.
Sports has this, like, it is lockdown group think.
Lockdown.
And the group think is locked down by two driving factors.
the left mentality and safety okay so you're on the left you're feeling with the group or you're
scared of being ostracized so you're safely inside this and it not not that everything is political
but then it creates this like total lack of independent thinking so i'd say things right i'd say
things that were objectively not controversial just outside the bubble of safety and it'd be like
you're such an idiot you don't know anything about sports a little bit of time passes guess what
happens will's right and this happened even on things it had like pure sports things pure now it
doesn't mean i batted a thousand both of my sons have come home in the past month you realize my
NFL draft prediction that pat my homes wouldn't be great is like you know how things go viral
and you can't figure out my like my u.s women's national team equal pay thing went viral five years later
huge yeah this pat my homes thinks it's going viral thing man and like all my kids
friends see it and they're like yeah i saw your dad on patrick mahome he doesn't know anything about
sports do you think aaron judge is like i said i didn't bat a thousand james i know one that's a
thousand but i would no one's keeping score what's that you weren't wrong what did you say pat
he has weird throwing i wasn't wrong thank you you weren't wrong thank you i wasn't wrong on my
homes i said here's what i hear about my homes undisciplined lack of mechanics like a
fundamentals all that was true it's just that his talent superseded at all but he's so good by the way
if everybody knew if everybody knew that he would have gone first overall so don't act like i'm the
idiot that missed the boat everybody missed the boat on patrick mahomes but here's what i'm getting at
i went four and one against the experts this week in nfl picks only one i missed was last night
because i took the saints plus the points we had craig carton fs one on i wish we'd have pulled
this clip it's from friday show i took
the Cardinals
over the 49ers
and I got seven and a half points
and he said to me
you're good on Fox and Friends
but this is why you're not good at sports
right and then if that was on the internet
and all of us were better at social media
I guarantee the social media comments
would have been with Craig
you know why?
Because everybody's gonna be safe in the bubble
everybody's you know at the lunch table
and I'm the guy going
I don't want to sit at that lunch table
I think this is the better lunch table
and damn it if the meal at my table didn't end up better
Cardinals win
always the case with me in sports
everybody says oh he doesn't know he's talking about
but no one ever circles back when I'm right and they're wrong
a smoked carton this week
what's up James can I circle back on the current fantasy standings
just just one team
and second to last place is Will Kane
at one and four with the second least points
the only person with less points than Will
is Tyrus who auto-drafted
and hasn't set his lineup since the start.
I'm a literal
fantasy football expert.
Hosted the show, boys.
Hosted the show.
The best fantasy show.
Sports is the riskiest thing
to have a hot take-in.
You could do it in politics
or you do anything else.
Why? Because it...
In politics, you're never wrong.
You never have to face the music.
Never have to face the music.
Sports is people are so invested
and know so much about it
that you can say one little thing wrong.
And your opinion does not matter after that.
Yeah, but nobody keeps score, Dan.
That's the problem.
All my victories have vanished into history.
You know?
You know who got Luca Donchich right?
You know who got Luca Donchitrich right?
This guy.
Wow.
And guess who was, I mean, it's easy now for me like Luke, uh-uh.
You know what Max Kellerman said?
Take Marvin Bagley.
You know what Stephen A. Smith said?
Take D'Andre Aiton.
You know, that one's on YouTube at least.
You can see all.
this. And I nailed Luca. I mean, nailed it. And so, but that's, that's one. But then what does
Stephen Ais may say? You don't know basketball. I actually think the Luca versus DeAndre Aten take
ought to be enough that at this point, I win. It's over. It's a knockout. I literally hit you in
the temple. You're on the ground cold. And I don't think you can get back up. Lucca. This is him being,
hey, Sam Bowie is better than Michael Jordan. And we'll be in like, I'd go with Jordan. And at that point,
would you take the Sam Bowie guy seriously ever again?
Never, never.
I'm fired up about that right now.
That's I'm smoking the experts.
By the way, as an expert, can we get Brock Heward on the show?
The Outkick Top 12 came out, college football teams,
and he did not have Texas in his top 12.
Not one of the top 12.
Brock Heward's a friend of the program.
What in the world, Brock?
Like, what in the world?
Are you projecting that by the end of the year, Texas,
Is that what you're doing?
Are you looking down the road?
You're saying they're going to lose to Georgia and Oklahoma and Vanderbilt?
Or are you saying right now they're not one of the 12 best teams in the country?
I need answers, Brock Heward.
It has to be a typo.
Last week, Trey Wallace did the same thing.
We found out it was a typo over at Outkick.
A lot of typos are going on with Texas.
Yeah, exactly.
You'd think tin foil pat would be on top of that.
Of all his conspiracies, he's not.
on top of that one.
You know, a lot of typos.
Why do all the typos only hit the longhorns?
Robert Sala, head coach of the New York Jets, fired this morning.
Jets lost to the Vikings in London this weekend.
Aaron Rogers not playing well.
It's the source of huge debate in sports media.
But that doesn't seem enough.
Like, the Jets are two and three.
That doesn't seem enough for Woody Johnson, the owner of the New York Jets,
for the first time I believe in his career
to ever fire a coach mid-season.
It doesn't seem enough.
And two of days, you pointed out,
the Jets are like in second place,
even at two and three in the AFC East.
Yeah, it's a week.
Not that far back of who?
Yeah, they're not playing terrible.
I mean, Aaron Rogers isn't who he used to be,
but they're not horrible.
It's not a fire sale type situation.
So there's two interesting observations.
I'm not going to call them things.
Okay. One is the one everybody's talking about, which is Aaron Rogers just fired Robert Sala. Now, I don't know. I don't know the Rogers Sala relationship. I don't know. I would imagine that Rogers has the power to completely warp that dynamic and I think he would win a power contest, right? But I don't know. Then there's another thing going around. And I'm telling you, this is short of a theory. But this is like journalism. This is worth a question. The Daily Mail has an article up. Robert Sala in London this year.
wore a pullover, Nike. Under the Nike pullover symbol, he had a Lebanon flag. Now he's
Lebanese by descent. And apparently he's done it in the past. He did it a year ago in October.
So before you read too much into it, he did it a year ago as well. But it does come where Israel's
launched a war on Hezbollah and literally bombed southern Beirut. So was he making a statement?
and is it a statement that could have ticked off Woody Johnson, owner of the New York Jets,
who is a big Republican.
I haven't heard Woody Johnson.
He was an ambassador to the U.K., I haven't heard him on Israel's war, so I'm not sure where he is.
But I think it's pretty, how about that?
It's just an interesting observation because there's not a good reason why Robert Sala.
In my estimation, is fired today.
Yes, they're not good.
What are you guys all laughing at?
In my estimation.
Happened again.
Oh.
You did it.
Take a shot.
Take a shot.
Donaldo El Donaldo Trompez.
I hope you're not drunk.
I'm sorry that I once again said in my estimate.
But can I say about this real quick that Aaron Rogers, I feel like that's the ability.
In my estimation, Dan, in my estimation, not accessible conversational technique.
Not a phrase that makes me connect to the vote.
voters. That's very Kamala Harris of me. That's not Donald Trump, Bill Clinton,
George Bush. You know? You just say, you don't even say, I think. I should be saying,
I feel. I feel. Is it like a filler? Do you do it as like a filler thing?
I don't know why I do what I do, Dan.
We don't either. Because you went to college or something.
UT Law, man. Go ahead now, two of days.
No, I was going to say, I think Aaron Rogers is that type of quarterback at this point in his career
that has the ability to get someone gone.
I mean, we saw it with Mike McCarthy.
Absolutely.
So I feel like it could just be, he's not happy with the way things are going.
You know, they're not using Brees Hall well.
They're not using Garrett Wilson well.
You know, I think he just might want a game plan change.
And he was the, you know, byproduct of that.
I wonder if our buddy Ian O'Connor could be.
Would know.
Oh, let's call him.
Let's call Brock Heward and say, what the hell, Brock?
And let's call Ian O'Connor and say,
what's up with Aaron Rogers?
I'm going to do a little journalism.
We'll follow up here.
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