Will Cain Country - Patrick Bet-David: The Truth About Trump Nobel Peace Prize Snub

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

Story 1: Chairman of the Board of Regents of the Texas Tech University System and Co-Founder/Co-CEO of Double Eagle Energy Holdings Cody Campbell sits down with Will to discuss the future of college sports and what can be done to help preserve the ones that aren’t as profitable as football. Campbell also shares how he leveraged what he learned from his time playing College Football to help build a successful oil company in one of the most competitive energy markets in the world. Story 2: Host of the ‘PBD Podcast’ and Founder of Valuetainment Patrick Bet David shares his reaction to a climate extremist and Biden donor being charged with starting the Palisades wildfire, before giving his take on whether California Gubernatorial Candidate Katie Porter still has a chance at winning as more embarrassing clips of her continue to resurface. PBD and Will also discuss the increasing levels of division in American politics and President Trump being snubbed for the Nobel Peace Prize. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!    ⁠⁠Follow‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@willcainnews)    Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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because your money can't grow if it doesn't move. Learn more at dynamic.ca.cath. Red River Shootout, Dallas goes burnt orange and crimson. Texas versus OU, but today we talk about Texas Tech and college football. How about women's basketball? How about women's softball? How about college sports at large? The future and the vision of the president of the United States with his council member.

on sports, fitness, and nutrition. Texas Tech Board of Regents Chairman Cody Campbell. Plus, no Nobel Peace Prize for President Trump. With the founder of Valuetainment, and the host of the PBD podcast, Patrick Bet, David. It is Will Kane Country live on a Friday. We welcome you into this special live episode of Wilcane Country, where we have a couple of guests and a couple of topics on a big day that I'm excited about as we head into the Red River Shootout. Texas, OU, tomorrow, live from Dallas.

But today, we get into a bigger conversation about college football, college sports, and how we're going to organize something that is quickly, like a freight train, falling apart. We're going to get into that with an incredible guest, Cody Campbell. Let's get into it now with story number one. Cody Campbell is the co-founder and co-CEO of Double Eagle Energy Holdings. He's also the chairman of the Board of Regents at Texas Tech University, and he is a council member of the President's Council on Sports, Fitness, and Nutrition. And it's good to see him here today. I wish he was in Dallas. I guess he couldn't make the 45-minute trek over from Fort Worth, but it's going to be a good conversation here with Cody,

Well, what's up, Cody? Hey, Will, how you doing? Thanks for having me on. Why aren't you in studio? This is what I thought was going to happen. This is still what needs to happen. I really don't know. I thought I was going to be also.

But here we are, you know. People to understand, there's a big difference between Dallas and Fort Worth. It's like different universes, you know. So it's tough for us to get over there. It's always so proud. It's always so proud coming from Fort Worth. Dallas is where the east ends. And Fort Worth is where the west begins.

they take a lot of pride in not being Dallas over in Fort Worth. That's exactly right. Cody, I want to talk to you about a lot today. I have a ton of curiosities, and you've been gracious with your time, and I hope it's not the last time we get to talk. But from the first time we met, both on-air and off-air, I've just been fascinated by your bio. And so for everyone that heard your introduction,

we talked about you being chairman of the board of regents at Texas Tech. Your name has become synonymous with college sports. people know about what's happening with the Red Raiders, and they probably may be seeing you on interviews on CNBC or other places talking about college sports. But I want to take a minute to just talk about how you got here. You have a fascinating life, born and raised in Canyon, Texas, played at Texas Tech, spent, I believe it was about two years with the Indianapolis Colts. And I would love for you to just, if you might, share me the story of how you go from, and no offense when I describe it this way,

a cup of coffee in the NFL to a multi-billionaire and on the President's Council for Sports. A lot of guys play in the NFL, not very many, launch what you have had in your career. Yeah, it has been a wild ride for sure. So right after football ended,

I had an injury in tore my pack, which abruptly ended my career. I went into the real estate, business for a little while, worked for Indianapolis-based real estate developer for a couple years until the financial crisis. And essentially, things got so bad in real estate during that time. I called one of my old childhood friends who also played football with me at Tech. His name's John Sellers. And John was also in the real estate business still back in Lubbock and said, hey, man, this is really tough out there. What should we do? So we had a lot of friends

in contacts from our sort of West Texas roots that were in the oil business. And fundamentally, oil and gas is real estate. And so we just approached it that way, started assembling properties, acquiring things. We had no geologic knowledge or anything. We would just go to the areas where the big companies were leasing, assemble some blocks, and then try to flip them and try to make some money. And so we were pretty good at that. And over time, we started drilling our own wells and building a real oil company.

And, you know, 17 years later, you know, here we are. We're currently the largest private oil and gas producer in the Permian Basin, and, you know, we've built and sold seven different companies over the years and, you know, had a lot of success there. And over time, I've gotten connected with the folks in the Trump administration. I was one of the founders of America First Policy Institute back in 2021, and with Brooke Rollins and Linda McMahon. And so when the Trump administration was kicking off and when they were going through their transition, you know, there's some opportunity for me to help potentially in different roles. And I went to them and said, hey, guys, one of the things I really think needs to be worked on is college sports. And, you know, I'm typically not looking for a federal solution for anything. I think the federal government should be smaller and less involved in our lives.

but there have been a bunch of court cases, and Justice Kavanaugh very clearly said that Congress has to act in order to save college sports, essentially. And so I would like to help you guys come up with a policy platform with respect to how we should address this problem. And they embraced it.

You know, the president's a huge sports fan. He understands it, especially to his voters. You know, college sports are very important. And, you know, not only, you know, to the fans themselves, we all love college football, but, you know, there are 500,000 student athletes out there. Brides a huge amount of opportunity to so many kids who wouldn't have it otherwise. It's so important to so many communities. And, you know, it's, it's, it's, it does something special for the people that get the opportunity to participate in it.

It's 60% of American CEOs have a college sports background. So, you know, it's important to the country. The president is very, very focused on making sure that we don't just think about football and men's basketball. We don't just think about N.I.L. on the transfer portal. Those are the things that everyone is focused on. Those are what bring the headlines, it's a very small percentage of the kids that are getting these huge NIL deals. It's an even smaller percentage of them that end up going pro. So the focus is really on making sure we preserve the women's sports and the Olympic sports that don't make money.

making sure we've preserved the sports of the best prominent schools, you know, the smaller schools where they have gigantic budget deficits. And in fact, budget deficits are everywhere right now. I think Ohio State's budget deficit was $39 million last year. You know, Alabama was in the high 20s. The only one really making money right now is the University of Texas. You're all-in-water there. So we have some really fundamental tough problems that we have to solve.

a lot of them are economic, a lot of more governance-related. It's a more complex issue that most people realize. But we've been very focused now for the last, I have been for the last three years, but with the administration now for nearly a year since the transition period on coming up with the right solutions that'll work. All right, I want to go into those complexities, but let's put a pin for a moment in the future of college sports. I just want to return to one thing about your bio.

So there's two things that I say this in the most complimentary of ways don't make sense. They will make sense because the answer will be something unique to you and John Sellers. But, you know, I've spent five years at ESPN, and I mean no insult to the guys that I were around. Just a lot of them, it doesn't mean they're not smart, but it might mean that their focus isn't on business or their instincts aren't honed for business. So you emerge from that world with a clear, obvious instinct for business. And I find that unique. And I'm curious as to why. But I'll ask you this double-barreled question here.

The other part of this is anyone from Texas, and you don't have to be from Texas, Oklahoma or anywhere else, knows that perhaps as competitive as the NFL is the oil and gas business. There's a lot of people out there trying to strike black gold, you know. And it seems like it happened pretty quick for you guys. And you say, you know, it's fundamentally the real estate business, but how did you break through out in West Texas in a way that I'm sure the number is literally thousands of others we're trying to do so as well? You know, I mean, this is, it sounds trite, but we have a great team of people. You know, we hustled really hard and we worked really hard. And a lot of times when you're backs against the wall and you kind of have to make it deal work or you're not going to be able to pay your electric bill, it forces you. to get pretty creative and find ways to get things done.

But a lot of our success, a lot of my personal success, not just in business, but in life in general, I attribute to the lessons that I learned through playing college football. And I was fortunate to play for Mike Leach the whole time at Texas Tech. I was in his first recruiting class there. And there's not a day that goes by that I don't use something that I learned from him.

My favorite one of his lines was don't confuse activity with results. And he said it every day, and we got so tired of hearing about. about hearing it from him, but it really became ingrained in the way I thought. So his point back then was just because you showed up for practice today and you got dressed and you went through the motions doesn't necessarily mean you got any better. And so in the business world, that's very applicable as well. So just because it came to the office today, we had meetings, we did stuff, you know,

did we actually create any value today or not? So very results-oriented, very results-focused culture is what we've built. And that's paid dividends. We don't get caught up in the unimportant things, right? And so I think also just that toughness that we developed, you know, the ability to deal with the diversity. The oil and gas business is inherently volatile. I mean, we've gone through, we've seen oil prices as low as negative $35 per barrel. We actually had to pay $35 a barrel to get rid of it during COVID.

But we built one of our best companies during that time period because we were able to, maintain, you know, our wits about us and make good decisions during very stressful periods of time. And those are skills that you develop through sports. And that's, again, why they're so important to the country. And that's why they've been so important to me and why I care so much about it. You know, so now this opportunity in college sports, working with the Trump administration, working on the Hill, is allocated as a chance to give back, you know, give back to something that did so much for me, but also just make sure that as many kids as possible

continue to have that same opportunity that I had. Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation with a member of the President's Council on Sports. Cody Campbell on Will Cain Country. Maybe it's just a phase you're going through. You'll get over it. I can't help you with that. The next appointment is in six months.

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though now to talk about you spending money. So you first pop onto the radar. I saw you the other night a couple of weeks ago. I don't think either of us mind saying our sons played each other in high school football. And we met randomly. And my brother was there. And my brother meeting you was like meeting Brad Pitt. Why? Because my brother is a Red Raider. And you are like the patron saint of Red Raiders right now in that you guys are getting good. And I have saying the praises. I mean, everyone in the nation needs to prepare for the fact that Texas Tech is going to be an annual participant in the college football playoff. We obviously know it's going to be it's women's college softball, it's basketball. And to be blunt, a lot of it, or maybe the majority of it, is because of you, Cody.

You've invested a ton of money, and you guys are spending a ton of money at Texas Tech. You know, every time I look up, the entitlement and arrogance of a Longhorn fan in reconciling the fact that we're losing five-star recruits. to Lubbock, and you know I'm not snooty about Lubbock. I married a Lubbock girl. But losing a five-star recruit to Lubbock isn't the way it's supposed to go and never the way it has gone in the past. And now it's happening with frequency. And of course, you know, I think also if anybody watched the world series of softball, there you are against the Longhorns, and you've got your million-dollar pitcher that you guys got from Stanford. So what's the vision, man? Is it every sport? Is it as much money

is you can, you can regulatory and legally spend? What's the plan and the vision for Texas Tech? Well, so it started, you know, over a year ago now, a couple of years ago. We, John and I founded the NIO collective attack called the Matador Club. And it's been a combination of factors that have made it successful. There were three of us, John and I and a man named Gary Peterson, who basically just said, we're willing to backstop what is necessary to execute on a plan that we're. We had identified this period of time where it was still kind of the Wild West before this new house against CAA settlement kicked in and then this salary cap where we could take advantage of some things.

So we went to the staff and the administration and said, all right, here's our plan. You know, here's what we're going to go after. These are the holes we're going to fill. This is how we're going to do the evaluations, et cetera, et cetera. Worked with the coaching staff on coming up with that strategy. And the three of us stepped up and did that. And then we had, you know, the great thing about Red Raiders, anybody who's in the state of Texas knows this. is that we're an extremely passionate group of people

when it comes to our school. Everybody that goes to Tech loves Texas Tech. And so we've had dozens of six-and-seven-figured donors step up, along with John and Gary and I, to help with the effort. And so we were able to raise a lot of money. But then, you know, to the credit of our coaching staff, they executed extremely well. So, you know, we didn't miss on any of our evaluations.

We, you know, use the most modern analytics and combine that with old school. just, you know, film watching and, you know, and but then also made sure that we were getting kids with good character. And then once they got them on campus, they made a team of them, you know, they, Coach McGuire, you know, it wasn't just a group of mercenaries. He actually has kids that are playing together as a team because football as a team sport. With softball, you know, that was driven by the Sellers family. Tracy Sellers, John's wife, played softball at Texas Tech. She had a passion for it. She said, hey, look, we want to be really,

really good. And so they went out and found the best players and they even got some more coming in this next year. So we should be really good again. And the same thing with basketball. There's a group of folks and they're very passionate about our basketball program who've invested heavily there. And so it's been a it's been a combination. It's been a team effort. But the key at Texas Tech is that we're all very in line with one another. And we just, you know, love the school. Also, it doesn't hurt that, you know, we are on top of the world's largest oil field there in Lubbock. And so. So we've had a lot of our graduates who have done pretty well financially in the last few years. And so we, you know, we have an advantage over some from a donor dollar standpoint. We're never going to probably have the resources and money that UT and Texas A&M have, but, you know, compared with other schools across the country, even most of all the schools in the SEC and most of the Big Ten, you know, we're very competitive. And so, and probably can raise more donor dollars than they can. On top of the NIL stuff, we just built a brand new $250 million football facility. You know, our facilities are top-notch. If you haven't been to Lubbock in a while, it's not just tumbleweeds blowing through town.

It's actually a pretty cool place. A lot of good things going on out there and plenty to do. And it's a great college town. And, you know, with that many people in Texas Tech being the main focus of what's happening, we get great crowds, a lot of energy and a lot of excitement. And so it's attractive to the athletes. This is turning into an infomercial for Texas Tech, which is fine, which is fine, and that's good, but you don't need it at this point. But I do want to save some time to talk about college sports.

And Cody, this is the transition. So you can do it through the lens of Texas Tech, and you can start to go wider. I want to save the last 13 minutes here together to talk about the bigger issue of college sports. Tell me where we are right now, because you just described the Wild West that you jumped into a few years ago. Now we have the house settlement. and theoretically you have a $20.5 million salary cap budget. There's still the NIL issue, which seems like it could be a backdoor. I get it.

Ernst & Young is going to vet the NIL deals. But that isn't really going to equalize things, right? I mean, that's not, and we're only really talking about, I think most schools are going to devote 75%, they say, of their salary cap budget to football. So, like, where are we right now? I mean, I'm sure you guys signed big contracts during the Wild West. Are those contracts now subjected to the salary cap?

You know, I've read that, and I don't know if it's a fact, Ohio State's football budget alone with something like $40 million. Now you have a $20 million salary cap. So how do I reconcile where we were and where we are? Just kind of help me understand that. Yeah, so at Texas Tech, so the whole reason I got involved in this and learned all about it is because of what we set up at Texas Tech, learned all of the legal background, all the rules, the loopholes, everything else.

And, you know, and continue, everything continues to change on a daily basis. But essentially where we are right now is that we have to have Congress act in order to fix the chaos in order to stop his craziness that is very destructive. I mean, it's been good for Texas Tech. We've taken advantage of the chaotic situation, but it's not good for college sports. And again, for the opportunities that are given the kids for the communities, I hate to see it. And so even though we've been beneficiaries of it, you know, I want to fix it. for the long term. Again, I'm not in favor of federalizing anything or the federal government even being involved

in anything, but there have been a lot of court cases that have gone down, and a couple that have gone to the Supreme Court. And Justice Kavanaugh made it very, very clear, and this is a conservative justice that either if we're going to fix the problem, we either have to have unionization and collective bargaining or Congress has to act. essentially give some kind of antitrust exemption to a governing body in college sports so rules can be made and enforced. Because right now, there's essentially no ability of the NCAA, the conferences, or

anybody else to enforce any rules at all. And so this house settlement that, you know, people claimed was going to solve a lot of problems is already being completely ignored by many schools. They're already saying, we're just going to pay them whatever we want to pay. We're going to ignore the salary cap. So we're right back to where we were. And so it's a bad situation. So there's a lot of discussions going on in D.C.

In terms of how to best solve the problem for the long term. Again, like I said, the rulemaking part is one aspect of it. You have to have a governing body that has power to enforce rules. Is the NCAA the right body for that to be given that power? And how much power should they be given? I think that the student athletes themselves need to have some voice. at the table because that's why we got in the situation we were though the NCAA became this organization that basically just policed and punished the athletes and so it finally got so

out of hand you know coaches are making tens of millions of dollars you know big facilities being built administrators making much money the athletes aren't getting anything and they just keep getting punished by the NCAA for stuff so I don't think we need to do something where we set ourselves back 40 years and try to go back to the way that things used to be because the genie is way out of the bottle and the opportunity to fix things incrementally along the way was missed by the NCAA because they were just too slow and too bureaucratic. And so I think we have to come up for the new system there. But the other problem, which is probably more threatening, especially to women's sports and to Olympic sports, is that there's this gigantic financial issue in college sports.

And like I mentioned, it even applies to many of the bigger name brands that you see out there. People running huge budget deficits. The average budget deficit in FBS right now is $20 million per school per year. Now the reason that's the case is that we do a really bad job of marketing our meteorites in college sports. It's because we have this fragmented system where each of the conferences do their own deals. So we have to find a way to bring all that together. Great example. The NBA, so college football is a second most popular sport in America, second in the NFL. The NBA has about half as many viewers as college football does, but the NBA makes twice as much money as college football does. And again, it's all because of the fragmentation that we have in the way we

market things. And we have great sports like softball, like women's basketball, that people are interested in watching now, but they make no money because we assign over all of our media rights along with football and men's basketball, which are the only two sports that do make money. And so what we're trying to push for are reforms to how media is marketed. And that makes people uncomfortable because, you know, there are some conferences, there are some schools, there are some conference commissioners who are very comfortable with the current situation. They're doing very well off of it. And they don't want to see that change. But it's unfortunately.

What is your vision, Cody? Yeah. in that respect are you suggesting there's one large contract for the the body as a whole the body of college sports as a whole like i'm trying to avoid using the word NCAA so and if for anybody watching you're what you've referenced is that the big 10 signs a deal with fox the SEC signs a deal with disney espn and everybody negotiates their own television rights deals and they they apportion out the money to the various universities right and you see an inequity in that and what like a more what? I've heard you say this before. You feel like there's a revenue problem in college sports in that you think you're leaving money on the table. Tell me what you mean by that and how would you, what's your proposal for how you fix the media rights issue? So our study says that we're leaving about $7 billion per year on the table right now, that if we, if we were to have a more professional style model where everyone did join together and do a single contract,

we would make an extra $7 billion a year, which solves all the problems. Then we can pay the players what they deserve to be paid, and we can afford to pay for the Olympic sports and the women's sports, which are being cut left and right. I mean, right now, most schools are having to make the choice of whether they're going to remain competitive in football, which is where they make their money. So, of course, they have to remain competitive in football or keep Olympic sports and women's sports. So they're cutting Olympic programs left and right.

Most schools are having to make that decision. So, yeah, it's not something that can be solved overnight. There are existing media contracts that, you know, Congress doesn't have the ability to even interrupt if they were inclined to even inclined to do so. So a lot of things are going to have to be run out. I don't think that there needs to be a system where if we pool together, we're all going to get the same amount of money. I know that certain brands, certain schools that made the investment bring a lot more value than others. you have to negotiate a fair distribution of that revenue if it all does come in together. And you have to have an entity that can negotiate the deal jointly.

Ultimately, it's going to take everyone coming to the table, all the stakeholders, the universities, the conferences, and just folks that care about it to come to the table and come up with a solution to a fairly complex problem. meteorites are a confusing kind of mess and and so it's going to it's not easy but it's it's worthwhile because the system is so important to the country and we can do it in a way where the university of texas makes a whole bunch more money every year but you know presno state it's enough to where they can still like stay in business and i think that's what we're sort of this solution will look for i want to ask you two two capitalism questions i'm watching the clock i want to

I'm going to be respectful of your time and my next guest, Patrick, Bet, David. But I think two or three places I want to go in the five or so minutes we have together. It seems there's a capitalism problem. I know you're a Republican. I know you have conservative values. I know the organizations that you're a part of. And I don't think that every political debate necessarily needs to superimpose itself on college sports. But capitalism being a reflection of markets, it seems there's two issues.

I think you've kind of addressed one. One is not everybody deserves the same amount of money, right? So some brands are bigger than others, some investments is bigger than others. So it's hard to argue that Fresno State should get the same cut as Oklahoma. And you're not arguing that to be the case. It sounds like what you're arguing is, I just don't want Fresno State left behind and ending up with zero. Yeah, that's exactly right. And I think the other thing needs to be thought about, if you're just like being really ideological here, people say, well, you know, you want a socialist solution or semi-social solution or whatever.

What everyone has to understand is that 92 of the 136 FBS schools are already owned by the state, right? They've already been socialized. So Texas Tech and the University of Texas and Texas and M are owned by the government already. So we're not, I don't really know exactly that the capitalism and socialism kind of thing really applies quite the same to the college sports. I also think of college sports as being sort of a national trust. And to some extent it belongs to everyone. And it's important to everyone, and it has national value. We've had it for 120 years, and we've run it this certain way.

We all sort of take ownership in our own school, right? But in truth, it belongs to everyone. It does not belong. A conference does not belong to a conference commissioner for sure. The schools do not belong to the school president or even to the alumni. The Texas Tech and the University of Texas both belong to the people of the state of Texas, right? And so we need to make sure that, you know, UTSA, and U-TAP, and, you know, everybody in the state is healthy.

There are 13 FBS schools in the state, you know, and all of them ought to be able to continue to sustain a program. You know, University of North Texas having a great season this year. So I'm, that's, you kind of get into some murky ideological ground, but I definitely don't think that the... No, but I think you described that really well. You described that really well. These are state-owned institutions, 92 of, what did you say, 132? are already a state-owned institution. So we're talking about, yeah, how you keep it on that.

But let me ask you the other socialism problem. And I think it's actually a utilitarian problem as well, because it's the one that drove this entire deal. I don't know if I told you this when we talked about. I played water polo at Pepperdine University. Now, there's probably not a better example of a non-revenue-generating sport than water polo. And an Olympic feeder program sport in water polo. So I love, and I grew up.

a swimmer. I love our Olympic sports. And I, by the way, Cody, different than it seems like culturally a lot of conservatives, I love the Olympics. I like the United States of America dominating the world in the Olympics. I take pride in whipping China's ass in the Olympics. And I know that college is a big feeder. It's the reason we're good at it. And so I want to see our Olympic sports continue to be supported. But the capitalism problem is, is if the football athletes are bringing in all the revenue, they're going to sue to get their chunk of the revenue and not share it with the swimmer. And that didn't even get into the women's side of things. You know, the women will sue under Title IX. The football players will sue under capitalism. How do you

deal with, set the universities aside, the athlete problem? Like, the football players have a legitimate argument. We're making this money. Why are you giving it to gymnasts? I totally agree. And they need to be treated very fairly. And the gymnasts say, we want to keep going. Yeah, they, then that's why the athletes need to have a seat at the table, and the reason we got to the place we did, and the reason why the NCAA's lost something like 18 lawsuits in a row, and why everything's chaotic is because they didn't pay attention to the athletes for a really long time and abused them. And so, yeah, they need to be paid, and they should be paid. And if we do things the right way from a media rights marketing standpoint, there will be enough money to pay the athletes

what they deserve and keep those sports that are important to our Olympic development system, that are important to women. The opportunities that women get through sports are incredibly, The stat that just blows my mind is that 94% of women are in C-suite roles in American companies have a sports background. So women's sports are extremely important. And we dominate globally. Our female athletes dominate because we have this great system that's emerged from Title IX. And Title IX has its problems, and people don't want to touch it with a 10-foot pole because it's so politically fraught. But, I mean, it's done a lot for women and a lot for women's sports.

And so we need to make sure that women's sports are preserved. So, yeah, this is a complex situation, and there are thousands of stakeholders and thousands of lives that are affected, hundreds of thousands of lives that are affected, thousands of communities. We have to be very, very careful with how we do this, make sure that we're not too blunt, that we're not too fast, and that we're very thoughtful on how we address the problem, and that we don't let unintended consequences of some kind of legislation, because we have to have legislation, unfortunately, to solve this problem, but the concern is always the unintended

consequences. The concern is always government overreach. The concern is always that, you know, Congress is going to screw it all up. And we're trying to make sure that that doesn't happen, that we keep an eye on things and that inform perspectives are at the table. And as much as anything, that the people who are just in it for their own greedy self-interest, you know, are not the ones that are running the show. You know, we can't have, we can't have the media run it. We can't have some conference commissioner who wants to maintain power run it. You know, we can't have people's tribalism getting the way. Like, again, we all love our school, and we want our school to win, but we have to understand that this is something that if we don't all do well, you know, it doesn't matter for anybody.

And so there has to be a little bit of, you know, just thinking about the greater good here. And so that's – Well, and I think we know the alternative, right? The alternative is not just that we'll have only semi-professional football and no Olympic sports. That's not the only consequence of the freight train we're currently sitting on. It's also that most of these football programs will go away to some extent. And it'll be a Super League of about 20, 25 programs. And that would be the vision of college sports.

What does Morgan Town, West Virginia look like if they don't have the mountaineers? And they're a place that is going to have a hard time. It saddens me to think about what happens to those communities and what happens to those kids, many of whom a college sports opportunity is their only chance in life to get out of horrible situations. And so that's where my heart is on it, is just protecting those young people and making sure that they get the same chance in life that I did and that you did. And I didn't know you're a water pole player. That just means you're way tougher than I am. So I, you know, I need to.

Right. Yeah, maybe treat you with a little more respect next time we run into each other. Yeah. Oh, thanks, Cody. I think you got weighing me right now by a little bit. And by the last I saw you, it's all good weight. The only difference in us is that you probably didn't have to go against a Serbian who fought. literally in a civil war and smoked Marlboro Reds at halftime. That's what I had to do.

And it's actually the perfect transition into my last question for you, Cody, because this one is actually both politically and personally something that's important to me. Water polo is a great sport that's an example of this. My sons are very into soccer. Soccer's another one. You mentioned like the pursuit of winning. It's important. But because, and I'm asking this because you sit with the president's counsel on this, and I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. And it's also a proxy for a larger issue that I believe in when it comes to both legal and illegal immigration, and is that what do you serve? You're an American public institution funded by taxpayer dollars, so what do you serve? And I don't like, Cody, that I look

across the college landscape, and water polo programs, tennis programs, soccer programs, are giving at least half of their scholarships away to foreign athletes. And the reason that they're doing that is to win, because that guy from Columbia may be a better soccer player than a kid from Dallas. But what's the point in an American public institution, if not to serve the American taxpayer, the American kids. And I just wonder what your thoughts are on that. Like, can we just say, well, we want the best possible programs. We want to win. We want to be developing players. But why are we developing players from France? Shouldn't we be developing players from America?

Yeah, I think you make a really valid point. And it's something that, you know, as we've tried to work on policy solutions here, it's something we haven't got, we haven't touched because it's, you know, going to be politically controversial. And we already have. have enough controversy and dealing the things that we're dealing with? And I guess there are two sides to it. You want to give as much opportunity to Americans as kids as possible, but you also want the competition level to be as high as possible. And so there's probably some sort of compromise there that I haven't really thought through enough because I've honestly been trying to be focused on the things that keep the thing in business to start with. But I do think

that we need an effective governing body that can make decisions like this. Like, you know, right Now, if you have an issue with the NCAA, it may take years for it to be resolved. Who's eligible? Who's not? What it takes to be eligible? These are questions that should probably not be decided necessarily by the federal government. They should be decided by an independent body that we set up that is looking out for the best interest of the sport overall and for the country overall. And so maybe limiting international students is one of those things that we need to look at. But so far, it has not been in my purview and something I kind of don't want to dip into because I don't want to create any more controversy than I've already

have. So if that makes any sense. Well, I'm glad. I'm glad I put it on your radar because you're the guy. You're the guy that's good. Good, good. I hope it is on your radar because I actually am somewhat passionate about it. And it's a proxy of my my passion for the overall culture and assimilation necessities of the United States and serving Americans first, which I do know is as a passion of yours as well, not just in college sports, but I know that that's your vision of America. I look forward to talking to you more, Cody. I appreciate the time today, and I hope it's not too long until we talk again. Cody Campbell.

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How you doing? I'm good, man. How are you? I'm glad you came in. I was afraid that I had you on hold while I was talking to Cody Campbell. But I think we hit the mark right on time, which was a conversation that you would have loved, Pat. It's the future of college sports. He's on the president's.

the, on the president's board of overseeing, you know, the reform or regulation or figuring out college sports, and he's the big money behind the rise of Texas Tech. And I know you're a sports fan, but we got to figure that out, Pat. Like, this is, this is a Wild Wild West that's going to end up with about 20 programs playing football and literally no other sports or no other programs if we don't figure this out. And I think it's, it's fascinating. It was a fascinating conversation with Cody Campbell. I'm sure you have thoughts. I know you like pro sports, Yankees. If I can remember, heat, and I can't remember if you're a Dolphins fan when it comes to the NFL. So I'm a Yankees fan. I am a original Texas Rangers fan because when I came

here, Juan Gonzalez was my guy. And I've been a Lakers fan since the day, till the day, LeBron went to the Lakers. The last time I rooted for the Lakers was a day before LeBron went to the Lakers. I haven't rooted for the Lakers since then. But you know, what's happening with college football is they're, it's like they're nationalizing the banks where the business is going to the few banks and they're eliminating a bunch of smaller banks and it's never a good idea because you need more competition. It'll be interesting how they handle and manage that topic, but we will see. But you got an interesting looking shirt on there, by the way. I like the shirt you got on. You're representing your team. It is the Red River Shootout weekend, Pat. It's a big day

in Dallas tomorrow. It is Texas versus OU. And I am going to rep my team here. I don't think the outcome's going to be what I want. I'm walking into this a pessimistic fan, but that's all right. Win or lose, you ride with your team. That's how it works. You know that. You know that in sports. I want to ask you about this. So, Pat, we have now had an arrest in the man that apparently set fire to the blaze in Palisades, California, killing 12 people, burning down an entire town. And this guy, as it turns out, is quite the character. He is a client. He is a change zealot activist. He is a Biden donor. $2. I don't want to overstate that, but he's a Biden donor. And Benny Johnson said he is an eco-terrorist, and he's uncovered a lot of stuff

from his Facebook. In September of 2020, he said climate change will force a new American migration. He had images of a California wildfire. Also in September of 2020, fundraised for Biden in Harris. He posted in August of that same year, Rising Seas could menace millions beyond shorelines. And then he posted an article, The Great Climate Migration has begun. It seems, here's the conversation I think we need to have, Pat. I think this is another example. Another example of someone who's given into the mass psychosis of fear and existential threat that is represented, in this case by climate and often cases by the politician, President Donald Trump. Yeah, I mean, look, another example of hypocrisy.

Right. Another example of, let me tell you how interested I am in climate change, but let me burn down one of the most wealthiest communities in America and, you know, destroy a great area where, you know, a lot of the homes were passed down from parents to kids to all the memories of you grown up in that home where you were two years old, four years old, eight years old siblings, gone, right? But I'm not surprised by this. I'm definitely not surprised by this. The longer term challenge for me is the following. We're talking California. ran by a guy named Gavin Newsom, who the best thing he can do is keep asking for money and fix nothing. Hey, give me $24 billion to fix homelessness. Homelessness goes up nearly $60,000 within a few years under his reign. Hey, make me the governor. I've been a mayor. I've been a city council. I've done all this other stuff, but I'm amazing.

I'm going to be a great leader for your state. First negative net migration. And by the way, by the way, as crazy as this is, fire happens, you're right next to the ocean. you can't use all the access to brilliant engineers you have in Silicon Valley to raise some money and say, can you guys, the first person that builds a technology that is able to put out this fire, we're going to give a billion dollars of tax, you know, whatever may be.

Because imagine the amount of cost that's going to be to everybody else. So for people that are watching this who maybe are from California, I got some bad news for you. As terrible as Gavin Newsom, maybe for your governor, there's a surprise around the corner who is going to, to make Gavin Newsom look like a sweetheart, Katie Porter, she's the goat. If you haven't seen Katie Porter, she was made for TV, but not the way you think she was made for TV.

If you watch one of the clips, this woman's got a worse temper than that uncle of yours, that everything he just wanted to beat you up. This is a worse temper than the generals back in the days when you watch patent movies where you're going through boot camp, you know, full metal jacket. know a lot of people that have the type of temper this lady has. God forbid, if you walk into the camera while she's speaking, she snaps, get there. You're, you know, the lights too much. Turn off the lights. Turn on the lights. If you get pushed by somebody in California from CBS that's asking you, basic question that's asking all the other candidates, you cannot ask her.

She doesn't like to be pushed. And she's going to be in the next, however long is going to be. It's probably going to, because she's a leading candidate right now for California governor. she's probably going to end up replacing Newsom. So if we think California is going to get any better, if she gets elected, this is just the beginning. So you brought up if you just want to watch one clip, we have one clip. Here is our favorite star of the week right here on Will Cain Country. Unfortunately, it's not Patrick, Beth, David.

It's not Cody Campbell. Our favorite star of the week has been Katie Porter. Enjoy. Oh, yes. This is why I didn't want to do. I need the lights off, the bright lights. I'm so sorry, but I am about to get on. Bernard, I need you to turn these off.

These that are killing me. Hang on one second, everybody. Yes, yes, we should have the computer up. Yes, yes, we should have. Yes. Okay, everybody, I'm not that dark. That's too dark. Just a minute.

Oh, look at her, look at her staff. Look at her glare. So upset over her lighting. Oh, and she turns off the camera. The only thing I take umbrage with Pat is your analogy to patent. This is who I see when I see Katie Porter. I see an assistant principal. I see that principle that you can't believe you have to go visit in the office,

who's always angry walking up and down the halls and hates every middle schooler. And here's why I see that. Because everybody kind of knows a Katie Porter. You've met a Katie Porter, right? You don't run into patents. You run into Katie Porters. And you run the other way when you do. You're like, oh, my gosh, my kid had to go see Katie Porter.

today. What's the issue? I didn't have my shirt tucked in. And man, she was awful. My thing is, Patrick, this is my thing. You've been around a lot of politicians. I have is too. And you see varying degrees of talent, right? You know it when you see it. You're around one. You're like, that guy's talented. Whatever talent means, ability to connect, ability to speak, ability to command a room. She has none of it, Pat. None. Like, I don't know how she got this far, how she's the leading candidate for governor of California. She has zero appeal, zero political talent. Listen, you are underestimating Kerr, brother. And by the, when I said General Patton, I meant by the temper, because if you go right now, if the average person is watching this right now, and you're underestimating curve, if you go and type in Katie Porter on YouTube, then you go on the top right filters, and you saw for view count for the most views she's ever gotten.

Do you know how many views her most viewed short clip got on YouTube? It's 49 million views, and it was three months ago. If you think she's not going to be a star for the left, or is it one of these laugh at her? It's like one she's proud of.

Not one that's making fun of her. She's proud of the video. Third, 2.9 million views. First one, two and a half million views. Fifth one by Guardian, 1.9 million views. 1.6 million views. 1.5 million views. 1.5 million views of her going against MTG. This lady is everything Kamala Harris wanted to be.

Kamala Harris is an actress. Katie Porter actually believes in what she's doing. Meaning, people like her, they're driven by control. They want to do anything and everything to control you. There is sincere animosity and vengeance inside of him. When you hear her speak, she's not just speaking from a place of, you know, I want to make this place a better place. She wants to get vengeance.

willing to bet, you know, the vibe that she gives me, if somebody offered her $10 million your job right now, be the governor, she's taking a governor job. I'm willing to bet if somebody paid her $100 million right now and say, here's $100 million, never run for governor again, she wouldn't take it. She wants to continue these progressive policies. She believes in this stuff. While she was on Bill Maher, and she's talking about what she doesn't agree with Riley Gaines, and Pierce Morgan responds and says, he was a guest as well, Pierce Morgan responds and says, what do you disagree with Riley Gaines? Well, I just don't like the fact that she's in, but, you know, but what do you disagree with

her? What does she talk about? And then Pierce Morgan says, she supports, you support a transgender male competing against women that in one of the tournaments beat the girls by 50 seconds. You support that? All she's doing is she's actually fighting for women, but Katie Porter doesn't like that. I'm telling you, if she wins and the likelihood is 70, 80% if she wins. If she wins, she's everything Kamala Harris wishes she could be. This could be somebody that could be very formidable the next 10, 15 years for the leftist party. Let's take quick break, but continue this conversation with Patrick Bet David, the host of the PBD podcast on Will Kane Country. With Amex Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can

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Let yourself run, lift, flow, and go. Explore the new Peloton Cross Training Treadplus at OnePeloton.C.A. That is really, really interesting perspective. You're right. I have underestimated Katie Porter. She has that kind of audience and she's resonating with those type of people online. That is absolutely fascinating. I want to now return for a moment to this Palisades issue because here's why.

I believe, I don't want your response to this, we're living in this dual America. hear anything. Okay. And so now it's not on their side. Patrick Patrick is having trouble hearing me right now. I can hear him saying that to his staff. So give me a thumbs up at some point, Pat, if you can hear it. I don't know if he can or not.

Looks like we've lost a little audio with Patrick Bet David. Nope. Nothing. Two a days. Is this us or is this on the side of the PBD podcast? Which way, two a days? I believe that might be in their side. Okay. So there's nothing

you can do to jump in and fix it. No, we're sending audio. See, he still cannot hear me. Okay. I can see him typing away. Did he get a call? For my video here, but I can't hear you. I can follow you, but I'm going to follow you from here.

You can see me? Okay, you can hear me now, Pat? Okay. All right, here's what I wanted to ask you. And I'll try not to now belabor it because I know I want you to be able to fight through the audio. If you want to ask the question again, Will, I'll jump on it. If you want to ask it, I can hear it from here. Go for it.

perfect dual america pat okay on one hand we got the president of the united states perhaps um searching for the nobel peace prize i think we got a delay so i'll just keep going um the president of the united states is now he's not going to get it but he should get the Nobel peace prize for what he's done in Gaza and with Israel we've got inflation from tariffs has not come to fruition the world is going well and yet there's a segment of our population that believes that we've never been worse whether or not they're concerned with ice or whether or not they're concerned with climate, like we talked about this dude in Palisades, or they're concerned with authoritarianism. It's like there's this dual world, Pat, and I believe, I actually believe the President Trump is reflecting reality,

and the concerning thing is we have a chunk of America that is living in that word I used for you earlier with mass psychosis. They have been preached and evangelized to to think their world's coming to an end. And that's how you end up with dudes setting fires in L.A. or people taking a shot at Charlie Kirk. And it's really concerning about this dual America where some pertinent to the population thinks, oh my God, it's all awful and it's all collapsing around us, so you might as well get chaos. So what's the question? What is the question you're asking, Will? I said, I'm just concerned that this is where we are, and I don't know how we come back from it, Pat. I don't know if you agree with that diagnosis, but if you do or do not, I don't know how we come back from saving a matter.

of this population that like during COVID, we said, has mass psychosis. Yeah, they may, right? They may. And this is the thing about life. You know, I've been in sales for 25 years since I got out of the military. You don't need to close 100% of your customers. You don't need to sell 80% of your customers. You don't even need to sell 50% of your customers. You need to work the numbers. To me, I'm not in the business of trying to change people who will never change. It's just never going to happen. That's the wrong business to be in. I'm in the business of talking to the people who are reasonable, who are willing to sit down and have a conversation with you. And if the argument makes sense, then they say, you know what?

Fair. I'm good with that. But if you want to sit down in life, you know, a long time ago, one of my mentors told me the fastest way to create an enemy is to try to change them. If we're forcing to try to get some of these people to change, they're not going to change. Will, long time ago, When I'm building my business, I would always ask people, tell me about your upbringing, where are you from? You know, what do you do? Tell me about your mom and that. Who are you closer to? You know, was your family a competitive family sports?

Did you guys watch politics growing up? Did you watch sports? What did you do? And I noticed the pattern. And the pattern I noticed, generally the people that in high school took English or journalism, they were people that were usually on the left. The people that liked math and excelled in math, like geometry, math analysis, trigonometry, they were logical. You can get them to see the numbers and add them up to say, you know what? I see myself as a capitalist.

I see myself as a conservative. There's a whole part of this part that we try a little bit too hard on is that people are born. Some people are born being on the left. Some people are born on the right. Some people are born being emotional. Some people are born being logical. And we just have to know that's half the country that's on each side. And then you have the people that have a little bit of both.

You know, like there's this personality trait that's star, what does STAR stand for? S is for somebody that's structured, super organized, everything's in place. That's my last. T is somebody that's super technical, analytical, numbers, data. My wife says that's my second. A is something that's a, action-oriented, competitive. We got to go win. We got to fight.

Then you have R, which is relationship. biz dev, you know, talking to people. Some people are ST-A-R, some people are R-S-A-T, but you're born that way. To me, the part that matters is the following. It's the middle 20%. That's what we have to talk to. If the conservatives moving forward,

looked at the camera, and just assumed they're only talking to the middle 20, not the far-left 40, they would make such a big difference instead of trying to convert people that are never going to convert. Just assume moving forward, you're only talking to the 20 percentage. You know how you watch the debates, Will?

And during the debates, they always say to the candidates, always look in the camera. Don't look at your candidates. When you're making your last statement, make look at the camera because the audience that are sitting there watching you is watching you. Every time we need to look at the camera and say, hey, I'm looking to the independence and the centrist that are maybe open to the idea of something. Let me present my argument on a logical way, and let's see if it works.

Okay. I love that. I love everything you had to say. I'm glad you could hear me. Here's my follow-up. But what do you do when that, whatever percentage we're going to call it, 20-30% is not, maybe you can't persuade them. But what when they turn to a destructive force, Pat? And that's what we're seeing more of? That unreachable percentage of the population, fine, you can't persuade them. But you also can't ignore them because they're increasingly turning to destructural. destructive force. Yeah, now you're asking about a question that you're not going to like what I'm going to say, and some of the people are definitely, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is a little bit too much. Look, I lived in Iran, almost 11 years. I saw what it is to flagellate your back while you're marching and screaming death upon America, right? I witnessed it. I saw we had two channels. Everything the channel told us was how great Khomeini is. Every single day, Khomeini is this. Chomani is this.

Ruhullah Khomeini. Ayatollah Khomeini, how great, oh, no, the Shah horrible, America, horrible, capitalism, horrible, all this stuff. And then we're looking at numbers of them coming into countries like UK, and we're seeing what's happening in the UK. We're seeing what's happening in London, where names are being changed to, you know, Mohamed being the top name in certain cities such as London. I think America, this whole tolerance stuff, we got to kind of push back a little bit. We got to kind of realize who can and can't run. And the part of our Constitution that has a leak in it, you can come and say anything you want to me. There's a leak in the fact that, you know, anybody with any religion can run for office in America, really?

So they can go pray in the streets of New York City. They can go in cities like Dearborn, play their song in a morning in the streets. People who are not Muslims, they have to listen to that same song. Every morning they wake up and in places like Dearborn, the sign for being a police officer is written in Arabic. We're living in America. And then we have guys like Bad Bunny that are saying, hey, if you can't understand what I'm saying, you learn my language, you got three months to learn,

four months to learn. I don't know about that. I think we need to realize this is the greatest country in the world. The day I came to America, America didn't owe me anything. I owe everything to America. I felt like I wanted to give back for what this great country gave me. I think there's some certain risks that we have while we sit and we're like, ah, it's just Ilhan Omar.

Oh, it's just Rashid Talib. She's not in right now, but she's trying to get back again. Oh, it's just these other guys in Minneapolis. Look, maybe we need to make certain things to protect long-term of the company's dignity and what Western philosophies are all about. We need to kind of be a little bit more protective of who can't run for office. Again, trust me, most people will disagree with me on this thing here. And then on top of that, I kind of like what the president is doing. I kind of like some of these logical things that we have to do.

I saw something the other than I tried to validate it. It wasn't accurate. But somebody posted on Instagram and it went viral. I'll read it to you because it's so logical that it actually made sense. And this was about, you know, how women are having so many kids because, you know, benefit package they're getting and then they're getting, you know, all these alimony and everything that their child support.

This is something that hasn't passed, but people are putting it out there. New child support policy law will be crazy. Basically, if you put someone on child support, you will no longer be able to claim that child on your taxes. Only the person who is paying the child support can. It's a logical thing. Guess what? Create the incentive for people to be married and have kids.

Create the incentive for people to be better parents. Create the incentive for us to behave accordingly. Create the incentive of us doing the right things. And then at the same time, punish burning of the flag, even though it's part of freedom of speech. I don't know. I think we need to a little bit protect that this is the greatest country in the world. And I'm liking seeing it. But if you're saying long term, we got some work to do.

All right. Last question here. Pat, take a look at this. I don't know if it has a name. This is the arch in D.C. proposed, it's even on the table. This image here is from, it looks like the Oval Office, where they're proposing to build this arch celebration of the accomplishments of America, whatever it may be, in Washington, D.C. I love it, Pat. I love, let's get back to some inspiring, soaring architecture.

It doesn't need to be public works projects. It needs to be something. I mean, I love Mount Rush. more. I love these things. I think we should do more of this. What do you think, Pat? I'm all about celebrating how amazing and great this country is over and over and over again. When you hire somebody that starts working for the company, the first thing they do in orientation is what? Sell you the history of how amazing it is so you have pride to work for the company, right? You're at Fox. Fox has pride of being number one. But that pride is constantly

fed into the people that are working there. You have to have pride to work at Fox. Can you imagine if you work at Fox suits and you hate the company? I wouldn't want a person working there. Can you imagine somebody living in a country like America and they talk about America? You don't like America. Go somewhere else. You don't like what America was founded on. Go elsewhere. I absolutely love this stuff. By the way, the Nobel Prize, I don't know if you talked about it or not. Real quick minute to be thinking about the Nobel Prize. So Maria Corina Muchato gets nominated for the Nobel Prize and I think she's the one that's going to be getting it. And there's a lot of noise about this, right? A lot of noise that it should

have been Trump. I can't believe that Trump just did this peace deal. How come they're not giving it to him? All this other stuff. And, you know, even yesterday, Obama sends a tweet out saying this is amazing that this peace deal happened. There's a problem. In that tweet, not once did he mentioned, giving credit to Trump, Kushner, anybody that was involved, zero credit from the previous president, 43, 44, to giving it to Trump, zero. But here's a challenge. You don't have you dig deeper, you realize everybody that was a candidate to be a Nobel Prize to be considered this year, their applications had to be submitted before January 31st of 2025. So stay with me here. This is very important. So you had to submit it before January 31st, 2025, which

means President Trump had just been president for 11 days. You can't nominate him. He hadn't done anything yet. I'm convinced the President's going to win a Nobel Prize. Next year he'll be on the list. But do you know what this makes you think about? You know President Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize eight and a half months of being a president. You know what that means? That means two weeks after he became president, they started nominating him to be considered as a Nobel Prize winner. So even though we say he won the Nobel Prize only nine months later, he didn't. He won it two weeks later.

Think about the madness of people who nominated him two weeks later. And you have a guy here that is stopping all the wars that started under Biden, whether it's the Ukraine, Russia that he's still dealing with, whether it's the, you know, Hamas, Israel, think about the stuff that he's doing. But the level of hypocrisy, the one person I will give credit to is I thought it was such a beautiful moment where Maria Carino Machado, who ends up getting the Nobel Peace Prize in her tweet, she did something that Obama should have done. She gave credit to the president and the White House, and that's how class looks like. Good for Maria Carina Machado.

Yeah. Really, really, really good stuff. incredible insight on all of the questions, even the ones we had to fight through the audio issue on. Patrick Bet, David, of the PBD podcast. Check them out of value containment. Incredible. I know you can't hear me once again, Pat, Pat, but thank you, thank you. We'll see you next time, Patrick Bet, David.

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