Will Cain Country - Pete Hegseth & David Marcus: Breaking Down Trump's Appearance On Gutfeld!

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

Story #1: A dead heat! Reflecting on the fallout from the debate of where we are in the race for the White House, as the teamsters refuse to endorse Vice President Kamala Harris. Plus, a fancy New York City steak dinner and a Washington Redskins ball cap. Will is joined by his FOX & Friends Weekend Co-Host, Pete Hegseth for another "Off The Rails" segment. Story #2: FOX News columnist David Marcus joins Will to share his experiences from the road as he travels through the heartland of America to get the real stories. Story #3: Is Bryce Young the worst bust of all time? Or are the Carolina Panthers the problem? This ONE team is the obvious answer for Young. A conversation with 'The Crew.' Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Off the rails with Pete Hexed. Two, Bryce Young, possibly the biggest bust in NFL history, or by low candidate. I've got the one team for Bryce Young. Three, on the road, checking in with Americans. getting out of New York City, getting out of a studio. Let's hear from someone on the road, the thoughts of Americans. It is the Will Kane show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel on the Fox News Facebook page, terrestrial radio, market to market, coast to coast.

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Let's go off the rails with story number one. He is my co-house. host of Fox and Friends weekend. He is the guy I do every once in a blue moon, every once in a while, off the grid on Fox and Friends. And he's here with this on off the rails. Yeah. We might have been canceled.

We were canceled Wednesday. Yeah. Yeah. Where are you? I didn't look at the, I met a, you know, like my Art Deco background here, this is amazing. I'm at a Holiday Inn Express, so I will be an expert on everything today on the Wilcane Show. This is the best shot I could create in this room. But I did just get done working out, which had me listening to the Will Cain Show.

And how much of a downgrade am I from Michael Schellenberger? Okay, like a big downgrade, okay? That's a big brain. Not at all. Smart conversation you guys had. And I love what you said yesterday. Maybe, I'm sure it's not the first time you said it, but I thought it was spot on how the left takes Trump literally, but not seriously. And the right takes Trump seriously, but not literally.

I thought that was touche. Well done. Awesome. Thank you. I appreciate you listening as well to The Will Kane Show. That was an episode yesterday with Michael Schellenberger, awesome conversation we had. Go download that at Spotify or on Apple. Speaking of Donald Trump, Pete, Donald Trump.

right now looks to be, at least according to the polling and as much as we can trust the polling, in a dead heat with Kamala Harris. Now, going into the debate on ABC, he had, again, according to most of the polling, a lead over Kamala Harris. So perhaps a little ground has been lost. But I need to express some self-awareness. And it's always my goal. It's not so much to be right, but to be in pursuit of the truth. And I didn't think Donald Trump performed well in that debate. I thought it was a win for Kamala Harris. But what I think doesn't matter. What matters is the thoughts of the American public, what they thought about the debate. And, you know, we saw it the next morning. We did dial testing. We showed dial testing from Fox when Kamala Harris spoke on the economy and the way

the independence felt the same way as Republicans. And so I was trying to be self-reflective from jump. Hey, not sure Americans saw it, for example, the same way I did. And it's starting to look that way. Like this wasn't a loss for Donald Trump. Of course, he would declare it a win, but she didn't do whatever it is she needed to do in that debate on ABC. I think you're right. I had much the same progression. I ignored a little bit in real time some of the – I wouldn't say ignored. But you know how you get incoming texts from friends and everybody that's watching on a big event like that.

And, you know, people – you don't even talk politics with very often. And we do this in sports, too. You take license with people you kind of know because they're kind of a Cardinals fan or Redskins fan. whatever. And so you reach out to him in those big moan. So everybody's reaching out. And I was surprised by how positive the feedback was for Trump. It was he's crushing her and he's got blah, blah, blah, blah. There was a lot of that in real time. And I was at, I was in Philly doing a show with Bremburg, Jason Chaffetz, and Rachel, a Camposophia, our co-host. And we were all watching it together in his hotel suite. And it was, you know, the mood there was,

he could be hitting this better, you know? I mean, come on. A lot of it is, but here's why I think we missed it is that I think a lot of the country that's tuning in is already dialed into the context. And you didn't get a lot of context from Trump on a lot of things. I mean, the chief example of that is eating the cats, eating the dogs. Like, that was a new story that some people were tracking out of Springfield, but a lot weren't. But I just think a lot was already baked in in the impression of these candidates, in the context, in their view of them, I think some some independence maybe, maybe that tiny little number felt like, okay, I was going to vote for Biden. Now I feel like I can vote for Kamala too because of the question marks. But for the

most part, I don't think a whole lot moved. And I think she had an opportunity to really overperform, but didn't. And because he was perceived to have underperformed by the chattering class, I don't think that changed the way most people see him. So this is why we're immediate analysis is tough. Like we look at it through a, I try to look at it through a lens of what will average Americans see from this. And what I missed in that is that I think a lot of average Americans already had their impressions formed.

And this debate was entertaining, but it wasn't necessarily changing anybody. I agree in part and disagree in part. So first of all, the texts I were getting that night were not of the same kind of text you got. I got texts, of course, same scenario, friends not involved in politics who thought he was losing and that it was very bad performance for Donald Trump. I got those two. Yep. I got those two. If I self-reflect on those texts, I will tell you every single one of the people that texted me that will vote for Donald Trump. So I think I agree with you what the end result is that he's the known quantity. Everybody already knows Trump. She was the unknown quantity. She was the unknown

And in some conversations I've had this week off air, what was, what she accomplished was superficially, she pulled off the look. She looked presentable. She looked competent. Maybe some even could think she come off looking like a leader. What she failed, it appears to be, is that she is not the known quantity. There are many, many people tuning in who don't know who Kamala Harris is. is don't know what she believes in, don't know what she stands for, and that's where she failed

to fill in those gaps in a satisfactory way to make them, and therefore they leave going in the same way that they leave coming out the same way they went in. I don't know. What is she for? I don't know Kamala Harris. Now, the reason we're talking about this today, by the way, is because there's a third component, I think, affected the polling. And that component was revealed last night on Gutfeld. Donald Trump made an appearance on Gutfeld. really interesting dynamics. He was with, of course, Greg and Kat Timpf and Tyrus and Emily Campano. And he's sitting in one of the four chairs doing Gutfeld.

And they talk about the debate. And here's what he had to say. He said he had a regret. He regrets not going after ABC. He did on Gutfeld. Watch. And I walked off that stage and I thought I had the best debate. And I was very unfairly treated by the anchor.

I'm not fans of those guys anymore. And his hair was better five years ago than it was true. That's, that happens. That happens with the clock. I mean, who among us? That happens with the clock. So, one of the things I was told first by people in the know outside of, outside of on-air conversations, was ABC had a backlash effect for Trump. That a lot of people saw how one-sided it was, not just partisans, that a lot of people saw,

that and and and liked that for Trump. And so it's interesting, by the way, David Muir's ratings this week, Pete, pretty interesting. I think they were down 10%. I think he was the number one nightly newscast ahead of NBC and CBS. And he took a big hit. I don't know if it'll last, but he took a big hit in the ratings on ABC. That's a big chunk of ratings when you're, I think he would normally has seven and a half and he's down to six and a half million viewers. I mean, when you, when you consider it. that that was something that we did see in real time was that bias and as it went on it was so predictable here you here it goes here it goes but i think that comment that he that by the way the um got the trump on gutfeld was great i wonder why they put his chair there like why did he

move tyrus over and cat to the other side was that okay hold on wanting a shot that's fascinating that's that you and i both know we've both done gutfeld you're You've done it more than I. Tyrus sits in that chair on almost every episode. And a guest like Trump would, and Kat sits in the same chair every episode. So a guest like Trump would sit to the right of Greg Gutfeld. But he wasn't. He was sitting in Tyrus's chair. And you know the answer as well as I do.

Don't feign ignorance. You know Trump walked in and said, I want that chair. And it was over. And he had an opinion about why. I don't know why. Maybe he has a good side and a bad side. But you know damn well, Hegg said that Trump. walked in and goes, I'll take that chair. He might not even said anything. He might have just

sat down. And Tyrus would have been like, shuffling around, what do I do? You're right. Why did I not? You are most likely correct there. The most, the story that is most analogous to that is, I don't know if I've ever told you the story. I was interviewing Trump at Oklahoma City before one of his rallies. And we were doing it in the arena. We had a separate stage that was built for our interview. So it was meant to, has had this feel of you're in the in the rally and of course you know it's it's chaos and they've got the two positions me and trump and trump's people came up multiple times they're like okay he's going to stand here this is the shot he wants this is where he wants to stand but but but i mean it is set the

cameras are set the cameras have been set for three hours do you know how this goes trump comes up i say this your president um here you'll be here he goes nope i'm standing there right where i'm supposed to be standing is where he's standing so these poor cameramen who've been fixed on their shots for three hours, spend the next four minutes hurriedly setting up the best shot they can in the other direction and the other spot. And he's the whole time, he's like, let's go, let's go, let's go. And then there were four other things that went sideways with that. So I agree with you that he probably just said, I'm taking Tyrus's seat because I can. He knows that show. I don't know. I naively thought, oh, maybe it was a better shot.

We'll have to ask Tyrus. I'm sure he'll have the inside story. You'll have to have him on to get that school. And that'll be good. There's got to be some good behind the scenes from the green room, from the pre-conversations, the way they tell stories to. Absolutely. That's a gutfeld episode in and of itself that I want to see. But I real quick on the ABC thing, I think that was a product of his strategy going in. And I think that's one part of his strategy that he did stick to. He took the bait on all the, all the barbs that she made, you know, she took seven or eight barbs from the money he inherited to John McCain to whatever. And he took the bait every time. But disposition-wise, he went in saying, I'm not going to be, I don't want to be the bully.

And I think had he gone in with typical Trump, he would have gone after the moderators at some point. And maybe David Muir's hair. He didn't because his disposition was, don't make her a martyr. And he didn't make her a martyr, which I think was a huge benefit of the night. The shot at David Muir's hair, gratuitous yet unexpected. And by the way, I think there's a substance of, thing to point out real quick um you know trump's always like proud boys stand back and stand by or or um they're eating the cats and dogs it was never a dog story it was ducks um there's a sloppiness or

maybe that's not the word an imprecision to his rhetoric that this goes back to the take him literally but versus seriously thing right so the exam there was an example in that clip he's talking about Muir's hair and he goes that happens you know that happens with the clock and for me I'm like what clock you know but what he's saying is that happens with time right and if he were precise he's talking about time and age and he says it like twice like that happens with the clock I think that's kind of just a little bit of an illustration of how he speaks we all get it we know if we're taking him seriously but you could hammer him if you're trying to take him literally and he's right by the way that happens with age uh I haven't noticed any problems with

David Muir's hair until Trump felt he had to put it out. I saw his interview with, what do you do an interview? Where was he, who's he on with about the debate? You did a late night show, I think, I saw. And he was, he's got these like huge quaffs of hair to go over his ear. Either he doesn't trim his sideburns or he's got a weird amount of hair in the front that just live as a, you got to see it. anyway but so he's not losing here no i don't think i don't know i think trump's going to find a way to take a shot uh i don't know that hair is david meir's weak spot speaking of hair um my producers

made me aware of this did you know that our um i guess fox fraternity member clay travis on the clay and buck show said unequivocally that the best looking man at fox news was how much anticipation do you feel right now? Are you hopeful? I'm looking at you. I know there's at least a good 25%. Yeah, I'm watching your face. There's a 25% at a minimum of you that's like he's going to say me, right? He's going to say Pete X. Nope. I did. Why would I think that? Why is he talking about the best looking person at Fox to begin with? That's what I want to know. I don't know. Well, who do you think he said? He said it's unequivocal. It's hands down. Oh, oh, oh, I know. I know who he said. I'm guessing. Unequivocally hands down.

My guess is that he said, Bill Malusian. 100%. He said Bill Maloney. Is that right? Yeah. It's Bill Malusian. Yeah. So I'm sorry.

I know there was a 25% of that I was going to say. Game respects game well. That's what it is. All right. I want to ask you about this. A more serious note. And I know you're into this. So I was texting with my producers actually yesterday and saying,

okay, we got to figure out how to talk about this story. because it's at a minimum fascinating. So the story of pagers blowing up in Lebanon, and I don't know the numbers, Pete, you probably have the numbers, but it's in the hundreds and approaching the thousands of Hezbollah soldiers who were carrying pagers. And then there was a second wave after this of walkie-talkies that exploded. I think Israel has claimed, have they claimed responsibility for this attack?

I don't know if they have, but everyone's saying it's clearly, Israel who has done this and it's just on so many levels Pete there's so much thing let's start with this a lot of people not a lot there are some people and by the way some on the right who have taken up a little more strong position that is anti-Israel who said this is this is this is not right that this is terrorism that that you're you're hurting innocent people uh I have my own thoughts but I want to hear yours Pete my thoughts are this is amazing and They're at war with Hezbollah, and the way that Shibet and the Musad operate is incredible. And there are movies, there are books written about this.

I don't know if you've walked through the TikTok of this, but like Hezbollah is, the leader of Hezbollah says, we can't have cell phones. The Israelis will hear us, they will track us, we can't have them. So they go low tech to pagers because they don't give off your location, they don't have audio, there's no GPS. They all go to pay. So they order 5,000 pagers, okay, from a Taiwanese company. Well, this Taiwanese company subcontracts to a shell company, I think, in Budapest, okay? Well, and I don't know all the information how this, how that, but the understanding is at some level that shell company was a fake Israeli security forces run company that got a hold of these 5,000 pagers, put one to two ounces worth of explosives and a trigger mechanism into all 5,000 pages. they know they're going to Hezbollah. They know that's the orders for. Obviously, we now know they did it with radios, too, walkie talkies. And they deliver those. And Hezbollah hands them out to all their fighters. I mean, if you're a high level member of Hezbollah, this is how you're informed and you're notified about your assignment. I mean, they're fighting forces much larger than 5,000. So your rank and file guy isn't getting a pager. You're at some level, an echelon of leadership inside Hezbollah. And they wait months. They were going to wait,

until there was an actual war or the prospect of a war with Hezbollah to activate them, but they were concerned that they might be discovered. And so they decided at 3.30 in the afternoon to send a message that activated the trigger. And in most cases, not only did not just blow up, it sent a message, which meant most of them were holding it, looking at it when it exploded. So you got a bunch of guys in Lebanon right now that don't have right hands because they were grabbing their pager. They don't have right hands or they don't have their junk because it was in their pocket when it went off.

So you got hand-faced junk injuries all across Lebanon of senior members of Hezbollah because of a supply chain compromise as big as anyone has ever seen. Israel's at war with Hezbollah. Their founding charter says Israel needs to go. And they've got hundreds of thousands of rockets pointed at Israel. If you take that threat seriously, this is incredible on the realm of psychological. warfare on on on the you know there's this supply this idea of interrupting a supply chain is easy to talk about but really really difficult to do and now all these guys are marked yes i mean you know if you've got if you've got the wounds on your face or your hand you everybody knows who you

are and what you're involved in and now guys are wondering my toast are going to blow up so that's you know this is an ongoing thing of what else has been compromised i mean i my my my texts have been blowing up with military buddies and guys who are just, you know, talking about game, respect and game, like just recognize every aspect of it saying, wow, this is unbelievable.

Their ability to respond and operate and talk at this point is totally compromised. And then walkie talkies. So it's, I think up to 15 killed, 3,000 injured, Will, 3,000 injured. You have 5,000 pages and your hit rate is 60%.

That's incredible. And I'm sure there are some innocents that were it, no doubt. But this is a devastating blow to Hezbollah by Israel. So I'm fascinated by if you're at war, you play for keeps. I love it. Oh, man. The espionage, the logistics of this, as you point out, which is way more detail. I so appreciate having you on to tell us that. That's incredible. That supply chain shell company subcontracting from Taiwan, that is incredible to have pulled that off, one to two ounces of explosives in a triggering device inside of all those pagers you know i um i think as much as out of curiosity as anything you know i start thinking about

all the angles of these stories i did wonder okay so you know you take up for example and i just i said there's some people right candace owens who said it's an act of terrorism you know and i think about well i wonder how controlled those pagers were like did the hezbollah soldier give one to his wife did he pass one on to his kid and then there's some sad casualties along with it and the answer honestly is possibly yes it is sure but then i'm like possible um i need you to point out the war where there hasn't been sad casualties outside the theater of war or outside the combatants in war war is hell and innocents die in war and if you're going to attack israel for this you're attacking the concept of war that's what you are and you can't attack the concept of war

if one side is declared war and you expect the other side not to be at war. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. This isn't a one side affair. Hezbo has declared war like you said on Israel. And you and I've done it on Fox and Friends and, you know, the number of civilian casualties

in Gaza and others is, it's not good. But it is way, way less than any historical war, including the U.S.'s prosecution of the war in Afghanistan. Don't even get me back to Vietnam or World War II when you talk about civilian casualties. So the sad truth is when you get to the end of it, if you don't like civilian casualties, don't be at war because this is inherent to the characteristic of war.

I like what you just said. And this is where I part ways with anti-war activists on the left or a right. Sometimes there's a piece only to be found on the other side of a righteous war. And there's a difference between wanting war and war mongering and the necessity of it. And then when you are required to fight, fighting to win. So if someone makes a comment like that, they expect this video game level sanitized version of warfare that just doesn't exist if you want to defeat an enemy, if you want to eradicate and demoralize an enemy. And this will is why the wars we fight these days

never end. You want to talk about endless wars? Fight a tap dance counterinsurgency where no civilian casualties are to be tolerated at any moment and you prosecute your own people in the process, which creates a Ferguson effect on the battlefield. where now you're tap dancing around your patrols about who you shoot at and who you don't. I mean, you want, you want less civilian casualties. Look at what Israel has done in Gaza, historically speaking. We've laid these numbers out on Fox & Friends before. It's a far more targeted operation than anything we saw in Vietnam.

In Iraq and Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, World War II, you want to talk about civilian casualties? Normally the ratio is, I don't have the figures in front of me, but it's closer to a one-to-one ratio than you think of, of civil. civilians to militants in conflict, whereas in Gaza, it's like 10 to 1, 10 militants to a civilian ratio, which is still tragic for every civilian, but they're doing it as best they can. So, listen, you want, anybody who wants to make that argument needs to sit in Israel's shoes or anyone who's existentially threatened by Islamists who are fanatical and will teach their kids to be suicide bombers, they have the right to defend themselves. And thankfully, Israel's been creative in doing so.

I don't move to this. So I'd say it's at least six months ago. Pete and I were having dinner at Del Frisco's in New York one night. I don't know if it was a Friday or Saturday night before Fox and Friends. And I didn't know. One of my buddies in New York, one of my buddies in New York had texted me and been like, hey, do you want to get dinner tonight? And I had texted back, no, I'm sorry, man, I'm busy.

And in retrospect, he had said to me, that was super shady. Like my wife, his wife, who's friends with my wife, was like, It was so cryptic. Like, who is he hanging out with and having dinner? Well, I'm not having an affair. I was having dinner with Heggseth. And that became apparent. Well, my friend showed up to Del Frisco's in the bar with a group of his friends, right?

Multiple couples. And there are Pete and I at the end of the bar. And, you know, my friend's wife is very liberal. And I think that their social circle was as well. And so we go up to say hi. And you and I just lean into the whole branding. We lean into Fox. We're making jokes, you know.

I think there was some trans comments made But the whole time You're sporting a Washington Redskins hat Like you just made your entrance with an affront You know, like you've got You've got the Redskins hat on And and you So my point is there was a time here

Where you were at least And we know the reasons why you and I You were interested in the Washington Redskins But I bring this story up Because I've known this because I did this in sports for a long time I don't know how plugged in you were on this, but this is one of the very topics that made me controversial, unpopular in sports.

I was like, no, you shouldn't get rid of the name Washington Redskins, no. You know, I knew stuff like 90% of Native Americans and certainly like a huge percentage that still live on reservations. Their favorite team, the Washington Redskins. I knew that the designer of that logo who'd created the logo was a Blackfoot Indian in Montana.

And yet a small percentage of people, including some Indians, yes, who didn't like it got this to be the most controversial thing in sports and in broader culture, right? Well, now the update on the story is his name is two guns or his name was two guns white calf. He was a Blackfoot Indian. He served as the model for that awesome logo the Redskins had, that profile shot of a noble, you know, American Indian. And he was also for the record, like the model for the Buffalo, the Buffalo Nickel, I think. it's his face. It's on the Buffalo Nickel. His descendants, his family, they're upset. They're upset

that it's the Washington commanders. They're upset that he has been erased, that this logo is gone. They want it to come back. And I think it's fascinating. Like, here we are. I knew this again, because I was in on this debate. I knew the percentages. But he's not just one man in one family. The Indians of America loved the redskins. And in their honor, some victims, champions both among the population and among the white saviors got rid of the washing redskins what's the new forgive my ignorance here well what's the new info like is he just now speaking out that was he i think he's long past the name was changed no but his family members i think are they are they organizing now trying to bring the redskins back the logo back some aspect of

it there is a movement there is a movement to bring the the the name back and and the logo back. And maybe you could separate the two. You know, you could bring the logo back, but not the name. But the update on this is how vocal his family has gotten about this. Like, they think it is wrong that you have erased. And I think what's fascinating is they are acknowledging something that, how do you look at that?

Okay. You take that logo and you put it up. I want to set aside the name. It has its own separate debate, which I'm willing to indulge. But you put that logo up right there. What do you see? You see nobility? or do you see mocking and derision?

And I think your answer to that question says more about you than the logo. Great point. I mean, I see badass. I look at that and I go, I would not have want to face that person on the frontier. I know that person is strong, leads his trial. You know, that whole, it had that invoked that entire feeling of pride. I mean, that's the only way. Now, again, I'm coming at it from one particular perspective.

But here, yeah, that thing really ticked me off, Will. that I've never been well I was I kind of like the Redskins as a kid randomly I think it was probably because of the logo I was like wow this is super cool I just randomly like them maybe I've always kind of just not like the Cowboys maybe that's what's in my DNA but I loved that I bought a little bag I had it I loved it and then you know when they when they just like the Cleveland Indians when they got rid of the Cleveland because I never liked the Indians because they played in the AL Central against my twins and they always we were always playing um but when they the minute they changed the name to the Guardians, I bought an Indians hat, well, I still could. Well, a minute

they said they're going to change their name to commanders, I bought a Redskins hat, well, I could. And I wear them around regularly. I wear my Cleveland Indians hat to Minnesota, wherever. And just as my own little mini, mini protest of you, y'all are a bunch of, lefty liberal idiots taken away, you know, this is why we can't have nice things. And maybe we'll have enough of a rebound that something like that comes back if they're because there's enough of a ground swell that'd be awesome to see and they're erasing they're a race to my mind okay they see it as you're turning these people into a cartoon or a caricature really did we turn the steelers do we turn the cowboys these were real steelers are people who work in the steel industry packers

packers work in the packing industry cowboys was a legitimate profession um on and on and on are we mocking them or are we honoring them and you know you've chosen to erase them by saying there will be no Indians anymore. There will be no Braves, no Chiefs, no Redskins. And you're erasing. In my mind, you know me, one of my favorite parts of American history. I love the West. And they are integral to the story of the West and America.

I hate to see them erased. Okay. The Teamsters, Pete, declined to endorse Kamala Harris. Huge. I'm going to put this to you like this. huge, but also disappointing. Yes, disappointing. I mean, listen, we were all kind of hanging on it.

We saw the vote. We saw the numbers come out, 70, 30, basically. He thought, okay, does this guy who went to the RNC and ticked a bunch of people off? I can't remember his name, the head of the teenagers. Does he have the guts to make this call? Let me tell you the inside on this, because I saw it inside the veterans community.

You know, I ran a vets group for years. And famously, Donald Trump said to me, Pete, I want to pick you to be V8, not famously, famously in my own mind, infamously, Donald Trump said to me, I want to pick you to be VA secretary, why do all the vets groups hate you? I'll never forget what he said that. And I want to pick you, but all the vets groups hate you. Why is that? You know, and so we end up kind of walking through the veterans industrial complex of the American Legion, the BFW, MVETs, all these groups, disabled American veterans that are in Washington, D.C., their members love,

what we were working in fighting for, which is accountability and choice. And the VA's dysfunctional, it treats you like a number. But their headquarters in Washington were staffed by bureaucrats and Democrats whose only existence is tied to a bigger, more expansive VA. And the group that normally does that for them most reliably is Democrats. You basically have headquarters full of Democrats. And I have no doubt that if you walked into the Teamsters Union headquarters in Washington, D.C., you have a headquarters full of Democrats with buttons in their cubicles of every Democratic nominee for the past 40 years. This is who we are. This is what we do. We know who the enemy is. So when the rank and file speaks up like that, and good on him for having the courage to go to the RNC

of a non-conventional speech, you have a choice. Do you reflect that or do you stick to your guns? And I think by not endorsing that was them sticking to their democratic roots and giving a, you know, given a stiff arm to the base. No doubt. I still think it is a de facto endorsement because those kinds of numbers should be touted by Trump, but you can't get those headquarters folks to acknowledge that they would endorse a Republican. It's just not who they are. So it didn't surprise me one bit because that's how Washington was. Well, it's still a huge deal for the Teamsters not to endorse a Democrat is a huge deal. And I say for anyone, if I need to fill in the blanks, Pete did largely there. The reason it's disappointing is the Teamsters Union

members voted 70, 30, or 2 to 1 for Donald Trump. All the rank and file members of the union wanted to endorse Donald Trump. And the leadership, instead of endorsing Donald Trump, said, we're just going to endorse nobody. Okay. I know what we normally do. We're not going to do what normally do, but we're also not going to do what we should do. Yes, yes, yeah. So it's pretty fast.

They can't. They can't, they can't, they can't. They know that next cycle, they're going to go, if Republicans are foolish, they'll, they'll run some, you know, nominee that look is more of the old mold and then the democrats will slip the teamsters will slip back into endorsing democrats hopefully the republican party learns from trump in the future after four years of him in another term and they continue to be yeah the working man party i think that's what i think the way he speaks is everyday man every everyday man speak i mean i think that's why so many grassroots folks understand and appreciate him he talks like normal people

talk when they're hanging out with their buddies. Well, you know what I look? You know what I like about that story you just told me? Like you, it's not just politicians. Any corporate boss, like you're applying for a job, if you, there's a big ground swell against you behind the scenes, he's going to be like, okay, I don't want to hurt your feelings. I don't want to like lay this out. I don't want to betray things that I've heard.

So I'm just, you're going to quietly not get the job. Not with Trump, he says to you, I want to pick you. but they all hate you so why is that like that's just the like blunt honesty and by the way you can't be mad at him at that point you're like huh huh you know yep you hate hearing it got it sir let me explain it to you but yeah last thing last thing speaking of trump here's another cut that i wanted to use as a point of discussion here from trump last night on gutfeld why answer that question uh how about this do you wear pajamas? I don't. Okay. Do you own blue jeans? Do you own blue jeans?

I have... He sleeps in the suit. I have a very old pair that I saw... I doubt I fitted it. Because we were talking about this. I've never seen you at the beach. We see Biden all the time at the beach. Do you ever sunbathe? I'll tell you this. I just, I see Biden too. You know, all he had... Somebody told him he looks great at the beach in a bathing suit. And I think it's terrible when you see a president lying on the beach on a and a Wednesday, and he's stone-cold out.

Okay, so here's what, good job on Gutfeld, because like Theo Vaughn, you know, and you and I've interviewed him, it's hard to get something new out of him. And even then he wants to talk about Biden. He's short when he's like indulging someone's actual curiosity, like, do you wear pajamas? Do you own blue jeans? That, now I'm in. I love that conversation. Which, by the way, I also find shocking.

he looks like a pajama guy 100% a pajama guy what's he he's gym shorts guy he's underwear i mean underwear like what do you sleep in mr president not that i need to know but i'm a little surprised the don't trump's not a pajama guy but this is what it led to and you don't like with trump you know in a work environment everybody's either wearing a suit or maybe in modern day America right now, everybody watching or listening is surrounded by people in polos and khakis, right? But you don't really know those people, meaning you might know them a little bit, but aren't you, there's so much opportunity for you to meet that boss or that coworker in a situation outside of work, and now they have gotten to choose, you know, with their personality, what they're wearing,

and you're like, oh, I didn't know that was you all this time, you know, now I know who you are. Like, oh, you are super long jean shorts, converse, low top, Chuck Taylor's, and a tank top guy. I didn't know that. I didn't know that about you. And now I feel like I know who you are. And Donald Trump doesn't give us, because all you get is golf wear outside of the suit. You don't get, like, who is Donald Trump, like, outside of the suit? When, yeah, so many.

When is the last time he wore a swimsuit? like he owns all these clubs and these pools and he's tan like he said it before though who what kind of leader falls asleep on the beach and lets people see him sleeping on the beach it's a very it's a it's a it's a very like on a tuesday observing yeah a tuesday uh perspective i yeah what i mean i think about that my the military was the first place where it actually took root in my brain because everybody wears a uniform which you have no idea it's one of the beautiful things about the military. You don't know if anybody's rich or four. It seemed like uniforms at school. So everything, and then you see a guy at a reunion or you see a guy and you're like,

whoa, I didn't have, like you said, long skater pants and that hanging chain. I didn't have you been that outfit. It doesn't work. He's that guy. Yeah, I wonder what, I think Trump, I'm not even going to speculate. I would think robe, robe until until you de-robe for bed. That's good. And then robe back up when he wakes up. That's what I think. Yeah.

You know, the Pete headset that I know outside of the suit on Fox and Friends with the socks matching the tie has become blue-collar Pete, you know, like wranglers and boots and a work shirt. But that's a new version of Pete. Like, I don't know who New Jersey casual

Pete was. I think it was Jordan and jeans? Yeah, that's who it was. It was Jordans and jeans. That's who you were. Jordan's and a T-shirt. Jordan's jeans t-shirt for years. Heavyer wearing of the tank top

than you would assume. Love the tank top. I don't wear it as much. Tank top is so underutilized. But it worked so well in Jersey. I mean, Jersey, you think Jersey, you think some tank top. So sometimes I do that.

I've never, I never do that anymore. After I hit puberty, after I hit puberty I think I've worn a tank top zero times in my life except for on Fox and Friends when I had to wear the Tyrus one

but like I don't think I've ever worn a tank top after the age of 12 or 13 you know what I mean? Like you probably did when you were a kid at some point but the tank top has been nowhere in

my rotation of any social scenario even pool party. Pool party? No, don't have a tank top wouldn't wear a tank top. Fourth of July automatic tank top automatic okay many other summer days I didn't wear a tank top though until

you're right I probably wore one when I was a teenager and then I think I stopped wearing them I think maybe the age of 35 almost pushing 40 I brought the tank top back I don't know what that says about me when your bench got up to 325 yeah I think that's part of it that's what it's let the guns out a little bit yeah that's you know in fact I have one that says something about oh yeah It looks like top gun. It says, I'm out of missiles, switch into guns. And it's got arrows pointed to the arms. Where'd you get that on the New Jersey boardwalk?

Have you ever had a shirt? Just last question before we go. Yeah. Of course you did. People don't know about Pete. Pete sees something on the internet and he buys it immediately. PayPal or whatever. Apple pay.

Have you, last question. Have you ever owned a shirt that says FBI, female body inspector i i have not i have not i have many other versions okay not that one no unfortunately all right what do you wear what do you wear at home will cane i feel like i think i know too i used to be jordan's but now i think it's probably a lot of you're dallas i'm guessing a lot of shorts a lot of flip flops a lot of t-shirts that's my guess i have really retired to flip flops outside of the home environment i have three versions versions of me. I have

shorts and t-shirt, because it's hot, and with that, I've retired to Jordans like you. I said this on the show. I'm wearing the fancy Dallas boy on cloud white tennis shoes now. I have for flying on the airplane,

the same thing, but I've got some of those casual pants, like a... Stretty pants. Lillimmon or Vroari type athletic a leisure pant. They're really comfortable on a plane. Because, finally, the most common version of me is boots and jeans in a button down or a polo shirt type scenario right like that and i've done it enough at this point i'm tired of being uncomfortable

in boots and jeans on a plane i know you're doing it it's horrific okay it's horrific in everything it's not horrific i don't know why the jeans are bad i don't know why you think it's horrific i've come to really be comfortable and it's i don't know about you and this is your show so i'm going to let you go. But clothes are a psychology for me, and it isn't for other people. So I don't like, I love to like work my land and do stuff. But if I'm wearing shorts and flip, or if I'm wearing the wrong uniform, I don't feel it. So I got to put the uniform on to do the things that I want to do. Is that makes sense? And other people will just do whatever, wearing whatever. And I can't work that way. And when you put boots and jeans on your butt, you feel button down. Or you feel,

you feel like, okay, like, it's like having, um, It's like having a, you know, like a military lockbox. You feel like the latch has been clipped at the bottom and cinched it, you know, clipped up at the top. Do you know what I mean? Like it's button, that box is not getting open. We're done. Boom.

I'm an adult. It's solid. Right. Everything else, the shorts and the tennis shoes, you always feel like, you know, I'm comfortable, but there's a lot of holes in the game here. You know what? Yes. With the boots in the jeans.

you're like, okay, boom, I'm ready to walk down the street with confidence and attack the day of whatever it has in front of it. I hear you on that. It's just too tight on an air. All right. That is off the rails with Pete Hecksett, sponsored by Tunnel to Towers, as it always has been. A great organization. We appreciate their support. We appreciate you, Pete. By the way, Pete, listen to this. The Tunnel of Towers Foundation is dedicated to our nation's first responders, and it's always ready to assist when they or their families are in need. Through its smart homes program, the Foundation demonstrates its commitment to honoring America's heroes by building accessible smart homes for catastrophically injured veterans and first responders.

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All right. Bryce Young, and let's go on the road in America coming up on the Will Cain show. I'm Janice Dean. Join me every Sunday as I focus on stories of hope and people who are truly rays of sunshine in their community and across the world. Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com. Is Bryce Young the biggest bust in NFL history? Or is he now a by-low candidate? Can you rehabilitate him? Like, say, Sam Darnold has been with Pete Higgsets, Minnesota Vikings. I've got the one team that should go in on Bryce Young.

It's the Will Kane Show streaming live at foxnews.com. On the Fox News YouTube channel on the Fox News Facebook page, while you're here, we'd love for you to subscribe at Spotify or Apple. tell your friends to subscribe, subscribe on YouTube as well. That episode of Off the Rails with Pete Heggseth was sponsored by Tunnel to Towers. When I first saw that Fox had signed David Marcus as a Fox News contributor to go travel across the nation and get the feeling of what's happening in America, I was excited. First of all, I follow David on social media.

I appreciate his perspective. But even more importantly than that, I just thought this is what we need. You know, including yours truly, we're entirely too. captivated by a studio. We're entirely, although I'm not, centered in New York City. So I was excited to hear, we're going to have somebody on the road out there in America. And we do now, joining us here on the Wilcane show. David Marcus joins us now. David, good to see you. Good to see you, man. Thanks for having me. So tell me about this, first of all. Tell me about this idea, this plan. What are you going to be

doing here with Fox out there across America? So I've done a little bit of this in the past back in 2019. This idea for me, I'll be honest, I blatantly stole it from my favorite columnist in the country is Selena Zito, who Fox viewers will know. And she would do this back in 2015 and 2016. And she started driving around talking to people at gas stations and restaurants. And she was one of the first people who was like, hey, this Trump thing might be real. And she was mocked. She was derided. She was called a liar. Turned out she was right. And I said, boy, this makes a lot of sense. So yeah, I mean, I mean, preferably I drive when I was out in California, I had to fly out there.

But, you know, I drove out to Springfield, Ohio last week when that was going on. I, you know, I stopped in Morgantown. I stopped in Pennsylvania on the way back. And I just tried to get to temperature. Like, you know, what are people feeling about this election and how are people feeling about the country? And I'll be honest, my job is not to predict things. My job is to tell a story. But I've known some things before the polls have.

I knew that Harris was completely stalled out going into the DNC. I knew that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s endorsement was going to be something that put Trump back on offense. So there's a lot to learn from the people across the country. What did you know? This is something I strive for, David. In the wake of the debate, for example, I just talked about this with Pete Hague said. It was my feeling that Trump had not done well, that Kamala Harris had done well. But I try to have some humility about my feeling. And the humility is, just because I think that doesn't mean that's what Americans saw or thought.

And in the polling in the wake of the debate, it appears a lot of America, a significant percentage, did not see it the way I saw it. And they were disappointed with Kamala Harris. They didn't get the answers they needed in defining Kamala Harris. But I'm curious what you've heard out there on the trail after the debate. Yeah. So, you know, the debate was relatively recent. And honestly, like, I know 70 million people watched the debate, but not that many people watched the entire debate. I speak to a lot more people who see sort of like clips and things like that.

But to your point, yeah. I mean, this debate was weird and unprecedented in a way because we've never had a presidential debate in the general election with a candidate who had not gone through a primary. And this is a big deal that I hear about from a lot of people. Nobody knows, even some people who are voting for her, don't know who she is, don't know what she stands for, don't know what her policies are, and don't know what she'd do if she got into the Oval Office. now she couldn't have gotten to this point through a primary process without having made a lot of that clear right i mean that's what a primary process is for right um but without that she really needed in that debate to go tell people who she was and and she just flat out didn't and maybe her attacks on trump landed maybe they didn't but she had one job to do and she she didn't do it so

so i've heard you say you were in california you were in ohio um tell me where else you've been so far and also tell me what's coming up in the next couple of weeks where are you going to be yeah so i did uh oh it's washington or not Washington um Michigan uh Pennsylvania uh Wisconsin Indiana basically the entire rust belt um some of rural Maryland um some of uh rural Virginia as well there was one actually when I was in springfield one thing that I was really struck by was I had gone down to a town called Harrisonburg Virginia which is where James Madden uh James Madison University is. And I went there in part because they are a refugee, an official federal refugee site, and they have been for like 15, 20 years. And they've absorbed 15,000, 20,000 refugees,

mostly from the Middle East over this time. And what I found was the people there thought it worked really well and were actually really proud of having helped these people. But they were getting 150 to 200 a year, not 2,000 a year. So when you go to these different places, you see that that you know these are complex issues and certainly the people in springfield have um have a lot of very very legitimate complaint so i'm sorry i got a little off track there i think my next no but you know what i like about you you saying that um real quick what i just had a deep conversation yesterday with michael schellenberger on this issue here on the will cane show and the argument is not against legal immigration the argument is not against extending your your doors open to refugees who need

help in the world. The argument is certainly, I think, at least for most thinking people, not about race. The argument is about culture, but also absorption of culture. And you have to be able to do that and assimilate in a coherent manner. And maybe what you found there in Ohio is 15, 200 year, satisfies my description of a coherent manner. You know what I mean? Where you can absorb a population. They adopt American values. They fit into the existing town. They bring what they bring to the town where inundation and i don't know if springfield has you know it seems to be at least from some reports has has been inundated i know that could be a subjective definition but is having more trouble with the all important things like absorption and assimilation oh 100 percent i mean

and it wasn't just the rate in it was in harrisonberg virginia where where i saw this success you know being done successfully as you say i mean it was english classes it was transition housing It was, you know, driving lessons. It was job training. I talked to people who had employed these people. And you would see the refugees in the downtown area. In Springfield, Ohio, first of all, there's nobody in the downtown area. I mean, it is, it's just one of these really sad situations of a Midwestern city

where you can see the grandeur of what used to be. You can see these amazing, you know, late 19th, early 20th century buildings and how much money and power must have been there. And now it's all just cracked windows and empty storefronts. And that's not being helped by the way this particular set of migrants is being brought into the community. And they want that, right? They have this fancy, relatively new little food court from a couple of years ago. And I spoke to so many people, they want their downtown back.

Even 20 years ago, you know, I spoke to people our age. And they were like, when I was 20, we'd go into town. And there were five or six bars. And there were clubs. And the movie theater was, though. It's gone, man. It's gone. Yeah, I know that. I know that town because that's so many of the types of towns that I came from.

I grew up in a town of, you know, 30,000 people, an hour outside of Dallas. But it's on it, for what it's worth, it's on the rebound now. It's growing and it's being revitalized. But I've seen what you're talking about. It's just like a sad echo of what used to be and not replaced with something that could be. So you're about to say where you're going next. Yeah, I want to get to the Southwest. So I'm trying to get, I think, to Arizona and Nevada for my next sort of like big thing. But again, I do, I do prefer to drive. And so that limits me a little bit.

I could probably drive down to Georgia. I've been sort of mulling that. I live in West Virginia. Yeah. Well, it's been a lot of roads. You should drive. You should see America. Yeah, I've been waking up at a hotel like every other day.

But, yeah, I like to drive because you stop, you know, and you see things and you talk to people. Yes. I was driving home from. PA the other day and I just happened to drive right by Fort Necessity, right, where George Washington surrendered to the French and the like French Indian War. And I thought, oh, I've never seen that. I pulled over. I went over to start and I talked to a bunch of people and there they were and they're everywhere. In America, awesome. That's my, I love to continue to rediscover America. I just spent time a week ago in the show talking about northwestern Arkansas and

southeastern Oklahoma where I just spent some time. And I'm like, you know what ever thinks about that part of the country? It's pretty cool if you start seeing what's unique about it. And every place has what's something unique to it. That's why I hate the monoculture. I just tweeted the other day. How do you do it, by the way? What's that? How do you do it? When you go in, you just go to the gas station, coffee shop. What do you do? A lot of times I'll be like at a bar or restaurant. You know, bars are very good because that's just where people go to talk, right? So there's some tricks. The first trick is you want to want to sit at the corner because it gives you access to a wider number of people, right?

So if you can get that corner spot, that's good. More importantly, almost every bar has like a guy. It's usually a guy. Every once in a while, it's a woman. If it's a woman, it's usually the bartender. But every bar has like that one guy that everything kind of goes through. And if you can, before you start sort of identify who that is and get them engaged in conversation, about anything, about music, about sports, about whatever, you can eventually move it.

to the election. Then you've kind of opened up the whole place. And I'll tell you, man, in Springfield, I spent two hours at this little place that I went to. Well, I walked into this place. There were like, there was nothing but like NASCAR stuff in these four guys playing pool who looked up at me like, what the hell do you think you're doing here? And I put it in my column. I knew I was either going to get great coverage or I was going to get my ass kicked. And I took the risk. And I spent two hours with these people, just wonderful people. They've known each other their whole lives, right? It's something that I really don't think most people in Brooklyn, where I live for, you know, 20 years understand. Like, we don't understand this culture of like,

no, everybody in that place went to middle school together. Right. Right. Yeah, you know, but really people want to talk. They know they're ignored, Will. So when you say to them, you know, when I used to say I'm from the Federalist, I'm from the New York Post. Or now I say I'm from Fox News, it's harder to shut them up than it is to get them to talk because they know they're being ignored and they want. want to be heard well all right david um i don't know how the schedule works so here's here's some propositions i'll make for you you anyone listening or watching can get david's columns that he's filing from on the road at foxnews.com um i would love to invite you here over the next month as often as you want as often as i want which is often and facetime me you don't have to be in

front of a microphone like you are. I don't know if you're home or if you're in a hotel room right now, but I want you on the road. I doubt you're going to be at the bars at, you know, 1230 in the afternoon on a Wednesday, but if you are, that's when we're live. And if you're on the road, you face time into the show when you've just talked to somebody interesting. And I would love to start putting your reports and hearing from America right here on the Will Kane show on a regular basis. Well, I appreciate that. And I do think, I just think it's important that these people voices be heard because they're they're spoken at more than they're spoken to and you know I remember being at the RNC and I was hanging out and it's great like I'm hanging out with all my buddies

and it's kind of like prom for like nerd journalists and you're inside the perimeter and we've all got our lanyards and we're talking about well here's what the white working class thing and I said I'm getting a hell out as much as I love these people there by friends I was like I'm getting to have the hell out of here and just go find some people who don't have lineards on bring them on the Will Cain Show. You and I are going to talk. We're going to figure out ways to get this everywhere. This is good stuff from David Marcus.

It's going to be at foxnews.com and right here as well on the Will Cain show. Thank you, David, so much. Thanks, Will. Have a good one. Go birds. Take care. He is an Eagles fan. He hits me up on social media.

Speaking of football, let's figure out a riddle on, you know how rarely it is for a number one overall quarterback to be a complete and utter bust within the first year plus two games of his career? So one of two things is true. Bryce Young of the Carolina Panthers is the biggest bust in NFL history. It's pretty quantifiable if that's true. Or somebody can strike gold. And I've got just the team.

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Subscribe at Apple, Spotify, or on YouTube. Carolina Panthers quarterback Bryce Young was selected number one overall one year ago. His rookie season was last season. It was not good. But a complete changeover in coaching staff has Bryce Young this year, through the first two games

as one of the worst quarterbacks in NFL history. It's quantifiable. Bill Barnwell wrote this up at ESPN. dot com like qr rating EPA that's expected points added and um throwing the ball down field he's just not and he can't apparently it's historically historically bad and he's been benched already in carolina for andy dalton who is not the future of the carolina panthers leading many to wonder is this the biggest bust in NFL history now if you're trying to figure that out you've got to talk about who's the competition and the competition would be names like

Achilles Smith quarterback from Oregon Cincinnati Bengals went nowhere but he was a third overall pick he wasn't first

Heath Shuler the Washington Redskins and then one cup of coffee with the New Orleans Saints but at least he had a couple of years he put it together anyone else in there would be guys like Jamarcus Russell

number one overall pick by the Raiders but Jamarcus Russell as Barnwell writes, had another complicating factor. He had substance abuse problems. That's not the problem with Bryce Young. You're talking about a small quarterback, 5'10, about 200 pounds, and that puts him in a category of legitimately being the debate

of the worst NFL quarterback in history. What do you think, Justin? Is he the worst? Justin specifically, is he the worst quarterback in NFL history? He could be, but, you know, time will tell. Give me a little more. What would you say, like, are his biggest strengths or his biggest weaknesses, Justin? I couldn't tell you off the top of my head.

You've got to double down on time we'll tell. That's true. Justin, that's true. Filling in in New York, remember the list here, filling in for two a days, Dan has warned me the one thing he does not feel confident in adding to this show is anything having to do with sports. Real quick, Justin, that's just kind of a, I don't know, interesting. to me um so a little bit like seeing a dude outside of the work environment you know and what

he chooses to wear what does a guy who's not into sports choose to do with his leisure time oh you know like listen to a lot of music movies okay all types of stuff you're music guy yeah i like i like pretty much are you big music yeah i used to DJ back in the day also here we go now we're talking now we're coloring in the lines Um, yeah, you got a lot of hot takes on music. Sometimes not really, not really pop music too much. I just wish they would stay in politics more. You just, you just like that electro, electronic, you know, heart thumping,

that's, that's kind of you on the weekends, Justin? That's a good guess, yeah. This is not, this is so good. This is like seeing a guy outside of his work where, and being totally super, prize yeah just yeah i didn't picture you with those same headphones on spinning the turntables okay but now i'm interested now my curiosity has been piqued okay so we're not going to turn to justin for his opinion on bryce young but here's what i'm always intrigued by not whether or not he's the biggest bust in the NFL history because i'm a warren buffet disciple because i want to buy low so high

i want to look for gold you know where everyone else sees nothing but rock i have to wonder if there's not a little more bloom on this rose. And if you can really write him off this quickly. So according to Gainwell at ESPN.com, the trade value for him is really bad, like a sixth round pick type of situation. Late, late conditional. Yeah, yeah, James.

I mean, Trey Lance is another example, and Trey Lance played a little more than Bryce. And now he played less than Bryce Young with the San Francisco 49ers, but injuries and then he lost his job to Brock Purdy. And the Cowboys give up a fourth. Now, the Cowboys get a lot of criticism for that. It's like, well, who are you bidding against?

And giving up a fourth for Tray Lance. But there are teams, the Raiders, the Giants, maybe the Titans are mentioned, but I actually wouldn't sell on Will Leves yet either, who need a quarterback. And here's one thing about Bryce Young. He's not expensive. Even though you're the number one overall pick,

for the quarterback market, he makes less than a lot of backups in the league. So your risk, if you're not giving up much in draft capital and you're not giving much up in salary, is very low in going after Bryce Young. By the way, in this article, they talked about the two biggest, the worst trades, because the Panthers traded to be able to select Bryce Young. Tenfoil Pat and James, I don't know if you guys read this article, so you'll know, but do you know what most people consider to be the two worst trades? and not Herschel Walker, but modern day NFL history in terms of what they gave up.

In both cases, it's a quarterback. One thing, I think one is RG3, probably. I didn't read the article. Deshawn is definitely. Deshawn Watson is one of them. Yes. How much the Browns gave up. And then on top of that

gave him $250 million guaranteed. And he looks not good. No, but the other is Russell Wilson. And what the Broncos gave up for Russell Wilson and paid him, I think it was $120 million over two years. And how, that's a whole separate conversation, how Deshawn Watson and Russell Wilson can go from everyone's top five list. I mean, everyone's top five list in the NFL to horrific.

I mean, Colin Coward spent hours talking about Russell Wilson being the best quarterback in the NFL. And now, this is what he's turned into? Same thing with Sean Watson, with some complicating massages involved, as well. But back to Bryce Young. You give up a sixth, nothing. You take on that salary in NFL terms, nothing. And I do think you should buy low, even if he is a low in stature quarterback. And I've got just the team. I think teams should stop trying to find the next Josh Allen, the next Patrick Mahomes. Quit trying to find your savior in the NFL draft. It has a 50-50 bust proposition. It's what it's got.

you've got to start finding a coach and an offense coordinator that design offenses that make average quarterbacks into Super Bowl contenders. You've got to find guys like Kyle Shanahan who have done that with Brock Purdy and on the way jettisoned high-drafted quarterbacks like Trey Lance because Brock Purdy can drive the car. He can operate the offense.

And if he, you don't want to pay him, I trust Shanahan to find the next guy. that can operate the car and there's a few coaches around the league we can point to we're going to have a conversation come out on tomorrow's Canaan Sports edition of the Will Kane show

you have to subscribe at Apple or Spotify you'll see that show with the guys like you know who else is at Kubiak in New Orleans and he's from the Shanahan lineage and look what he's turned Derek Carr into 90 points in two weeks

you know who seems to be one of these guys Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota who's re who's reclaimed Sam Sam Darnold this is an example of buy low sell high that's a previous top five quarterback in the NFL draft and everyone gave up on it and maybe it's only two games in the season what do you think justin do you think it's real

what we're saying with sam darnald i think so yeah definitely okay good good take good take what about diplo real diplo not a fan of him okay all right fake diplo um it's the only This guy I could think of. I don't know. DJ Collid? Or is he a rapper? Is DJ called a DJ? It's funny.

I know if he's a DJ more than just... That's a good question. Like, I know of him, but yeah, I don't really follow him either. He just yells before the phone. Who's the highest paid... Exactly. Who's the highest paid DJ right now? Calvin Harris.

Calvin Harris. Okay. And what does Calvin Harris make a year? Oh, something in like the triple millions, I think? There was a Forbes list, actually, You mean like over $100 million? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, easily.

I mean, this is P-Mets. Do you remember this quarterback conversation? Yeah. Yeah, Curate the Don, we had him on the show. He used to do a bunch of corporate, yeah, he's been on the show before. He used to do a bunch of corporate stuff in L.A., I believe, like DJing before he left to and had to leave the country with all the COVID stuff. And, like, they must be doing pretty good.

I mean, these DJs, some of them. I mean, because they're doing, they're not just doing, like, clubs. and stuff like that. Some of the best ones are doing like what are we doing talking about quarterbacks

making 20 million dollars 40 million dollars a year where's the Diplow and Calvin Harris media market 100 million dollars a year and I bet he's not alone Justin there's got to be

there's a lot of guys are there a lot of guys yeah Calvin Harris it's like 300 million oh my gosh yeah I would say probably the top five, six, seven. Never heard half these guys.

Yeah, Swedish House Mafia, 100 million. Steve Aoki, 120 million. What? David Getter, 150 million. They make a lot of money. Did we all choose the wrong career? And they make that in... Yes.

They make that in appearance fees? Gigs, merchandising. Yeah, because there's not that much money in music streaming itself, so it's all gigs and merchandise, pretty much. Are there podcasts that cover these guys? like quarterbacks because we need to start one justin you need to start a a DJ podcast analyzing the contract values and trade values of DJs that's a good idea that's a good idea yeah I know an economy like that has sub-economies that's that's

fascinating um so trade for Rice Young and his three million dollars a year And I've got the team. Who has a system, who has the coach, who has the ability to turn maybe an average guy? And, Mike, we might even have the history of this. An above average quarterback drafted highly driving the car of a high-octane offense. And now we need the Miami Dolphins. Tua, Tunga Vailoa is a, I don't know even know if he's a souped up version of of Bryce Young because Bryce Young was more highly touted than Tua coming out of college.

Bryce was number one over C.J. Stroud. Tua was behind Josh Allen and who was the number one pick in that draft? Josh Allen was the second court. Joe Burrow. And now Tua's out with his concussion issues and we don't know. Is he going to retire? Do you get Tua to come back? And Mike McDaniel can give up a sixth round pick.

Bring Bryce Young in, run the same offense, maybe reclaim Bryce Young. Why are you shaking your head tinfoil pack? There's a better option out there if you're the dolphins. If you say James Winston, I would end the show. If you say James Winston, I'll end the show. His name is James Winston. I know you want to say it. James Winston.

Show over. Okay. Joining us tomorrow on the show, Calvin Harris and Diplow. We're going to be covering the DJ market. We'll see you again next time on The Wilcane Show. Listen ad-free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcast, and Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show, ad-free on the Amazon music app. This is Jason Chaffetz from the Jason in the House podcast. Join me every Monday to dive deeper into the latest political headlines and chat with remarkable guests.

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