Will Cain Country - Pete Hegseth: 'Weird Walz'! What To Watch For In Tonight's VP Matchup

Episode Date: October 1, 2024

Story #1: John Kerry is prepared to do away with the first amendment. Plus, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. lays out the three things the government should never do, and will the debate tonight have any impac...t on the election? 'Off The Rails' with Will's FOX & Friends Weekend co-Host, Pete Hegseth. Story #2: 3 things to look out for in tonight's CBS News Vice Presidential Debate between Ohio Senator J.D. Vance and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz Story #3: Do celebrity deaths come in threes? Plus, what is going on in the Middle East? Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One, John Kerry is prepared to do a way with the Constitution. You see free speech, it stands in the way, not a democracy, but of power. Plus, RFK lays out the three things you have to understand, the three things that are inevitable when it comes to the government. Off the rails with Pete Hexed. Two, three things to work. Watch for in the vice presidential debate. Will we see jazz hands from Tim Walt?
Starting point is 00:00:37 Will we see real debate from J.D. Vance? Three, celebrity deaths seem to come in threes. Pete Rose, DeKimbe Matumbo, Chris Christofferson. It is the Will Kane show streaming live at Fox News.com. news youtube channel the fox news facebook page always on demand by simply subscribing to the will cane show on youtube jump into the comment section become a part of the show become a member of the willisha if you're listening on terrestrial radio in some north of a dozen markets across this country just go over to apple or spotify hit subscribe and you can hang out with the will cane show whenever you like
Starting point is 00:01:21 if you are here on a daily basis then you might have been here yesterday when i weaved my way through a tortured analogy about the future of America in college football, warning my producer tinfoil pat and warning America, don't become Florida State. Two days, Dan, young establishment, James, I saw this on the interwebs. I saw this on Twitter from a longtime listener here of the Will Kane show. Carmen Thompson tweeted, after Scott Mann, I think Will Kane was all pumped up. talking about our interview yesterday with Lieutenant Colonel Scott Mann,
Starting point is 00:02:01 former Green Beret, about how to get big stuff done. Nobody's coming to save you. Will shared a personal story. Oh, Lord. I think he's on a good track with it, but rather than uplifting, I think he kicked a dude down.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Brutal. Yeah, life's not fair, and it's all connected to football. Was I hard on tinfoil pat yesterday, boys? Was I a little brutal? A little bit at one point. We could hear Patrick. Patrick, on meet yourself here. A little tough love never hurt.
Starting point is 00:02:36 A little tough love never hurt. You won't be able to see him, but you could hear him. I'm already working my two-week out, so. I mean, there was one point where I was like, just quit, Patrick. God damn. It's what we do at FSC now. I mean, just complete the metaphor, Patrick.
Starting point is 00:02:53 You got a little down. The system's worked against you. The man. will keeping you down might as well quit might as well resign yourself to one and four complete the play just go ahead and put the nail in the coffin of my analogy
Starting point is 00:03:05 no I'm not going to do that I don't have it at me thought he quit there for a minute I was like wait is he gone already long extended silence he's prone to give us thought made me think two weeks notice just accelerated to two minutes notice all right if I was a little hard on tin foil pat
Starting point is 00:03:26 I consider it, I'll give you the kind of apology that a man gives his wife. I'm sorry if that hurt your feelings and I'm just thinking of America. We have a lot to get to today, including just incredible, revelatory sound from John Kerry. Everybody likes to say saying the quiet part out loud, but this is literally the quiet part out loud. And we can appreciate that. We can thank John Kerry for his honesty as he's now ready to set aside the United States Constitution. into that and the three inevitabilities of government now with story number one he's my co-host on fox and friends weekend my co-host on off the grid from time to time on fox and friends and off the rails
Starting point is 00:04:12 here on the will cane show what's up pete heggsett what's up hanging in hanging in how you doing i'm feeling great about my minnesota vikings i just want to leave with that one for talking a little football here for and oh undefeated sam darnall looking it's early but you know MVP prospect who knew we're we're rolling yeah i love your fandom i do there's not this true fandom is a gym it's a gym i love it everybody's so cynical in the world we're all supposed to be grown-ups right-winged twitter tells me you're not supposed to care about sports and my man cares he will wear his hat his jersey and his wristband and his purple socks and purple Jordans on a Sunday. And he's riding high with the four-no Vikings. Feeling great. Feeling great. I mean, I don't see where it ends.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I don't see where it ends in the playoffs against your cowboys. We'll see. I mean, by defeating you. But yeah, well, the fun part about this season, of course, and we won't belabor this, but the best season to go into is in a season where you have zero expectations. I told you this. I said, I have no expectations for this team whatsoever, and they have delivered in spades. So I'm feeling feeling great ready for a letdown it is it is the best it is the best what you just described a season of low expectations exceeding expectations i don't know how many times you've experienced that and i have most notably by the texas rangers and the dallas mavericks but when you look up and you're like i can't believe this is us this is us we're in the finals we're winning the world series it's
Starting point is 00:05:43 way better than thinking you should be good and just accomplishing what is expected on that note pete let's let's transition into politics let's talk about the vice presidential debate it's interesting the expectation setting that's beginning to form there are some reports this morning in europe minnesota there's some reports out of minnesota within the democratic party that tim waltz not a great debater that he actually gets somewhat defensive and he can be abrasive when he's in a debate do you this this debate p is a mystery box as opposed to a donald trump debate where you have some level of expectation. This is a mystery box. I don't know. How good will Tim Waltz be? I do think I have some sense of the qualities of J.D. Vance, but I have no idea
Starting point is 00:06:33 what will happen tonight in the CBS News debate. I agree. It's a mystery box. I'm with you. We're going to learn a lot about the temperament and capabilities of both of these men in the first 10 to 15 minutes. But as I feel like Vance has he's prepared himself. very well by a lot of left-wing media. He's very good at the back and forth. He's also very measured. You've never seen him sort of lose it. Whereas those who know Tim Walls in Minnesota, and I know a lot of those folks, he's got a thin skin. He's got a prickly side of him. He can get angry quick. He probably knows it. So he hides behind the folksy, aw shucks, Minnesota thing, but you press them hard enough on the duality that is Tim Walls, the so-called moderate centrist of
Starting point is 00:07:18 Congress vis-a-vis the hardcore lefty that he's been as governor and then the failures of the second precinct and tampons and like what does he do with all of that how does he does he deflect and sort of say how you know the typical stuff you hear on fox news whatever i'm i'm not going to go there i'm not or does he and to use a phrase we used coming out of the last debate take debate take debate a little bit all these rumors out of minneapolis that he's nervous and come on who leaks that he's nervous. This is JV level expectation management. Yeah, this is, this won't, I think, have much consequence. It's really just, it'll be interesting to analyze for observers. I don't, I don't know. I mean, I guess on the margins, if Tim Walls really does poorly, it could have
Starting point is 00:08:05 an impact. But I think I'm not worried about Vance one bit. I think he showed that he's real steady. And I'm not, I think that'll show up tonight. Yeah, I think this is also different from the last two Trump debates, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, where he was coached appropriately, to not come off as abrasive and therefore to blunt his attack. And I think it probably serves J.D. Vance. And I think he has shown the ability to do this, as you point out on the, for example, Sunday morning shows. Yep. to attack but do so respectfully and he should do so if there's any sense that he could rattle the cage of Tim Waltz it got me thinking I actually also believe that J.D. Vance has exponentially more upside because despite the expectation management J.D. Vance goes into this
Starting point is 00:09:03 debate with an upside down approval rating most of the approval ratings that I've seen have him at 39% approval something like 52% disapproval. Now I think think largely, Pete, that is a product of creation. He is a narrative in people's minds about the cat lady. He's a product of clips that people have come across, but I don't think they've come across J.D. Vance with extended exposure. And he has an opportunity for extended exposure to show what he's done on those Sunday shows. And I think that J.D. Vance is a good debater. You know, that would be an interesting conversation, late. I've spent a good portion of my life in the realm of debate. And I do feel like I have a pretty good sense of what it takes to be a good
Starting point is 00:09:47 debater. And my gut is, like, if you're drafting debaters, if this were an NFL draft of debaters, I think J.D. Vance would be a first round pick. I think he would be a real high quality debater. Yes, because he, you're right, he is, his approval rating numbers are a product of an initial artillery assault from the left on everything they had in opposition research and they baked it in and they drilled it in and he's had to dig out from underneath that from the beginning i think there is a lot of upside potential he'll he has a good demeanor uh in the way he his posture and demeanor is is uh is measured but his words are not if you he's not a hedger he's he's willing to throw haymakers and and and he so that'll be what be interesting to
Starting point is 00:10:35 watch walls respond to when a very measured jd vance you know calls him weird or tampon tim or whatever points out the precinct burning or the COVID nonsense, any number of those things in a way that, you know, the measured approach that he takes where he doesn't get, he doesn't get his ire up, will walls take that? We'll see. People don't really know walls either. They know the caricature of walls, the coach walls that's been spun and sold. So I think if that cracks and he shows something else that could hurt him. But again, I don't think it matters much. I think it'll be good sport, but I think the last debate,
Starting point is 00:11:16 the vice presidential debate that probably mattered when I kind of look back on some of this because I'm doing a show for Fox Nation tonight. Folks should check it out before and after here in Nashville with some Nashville folks is probably Biden Palin in 2008 because everyone wanted to know who Sarah Palin was. And so they showed up to watch Biden,
Starting point is 00:11:38 Obama's VP debate, Kane's VP choice in Palin and that was that was probably the most consequential just think it back but this isn't that let's go ahead and do this draft beat if we were drafting debaters now here's the thing I think modern social media has blunted debate it's turned it debate has always had a measure of performance but I think social media has heightened performance and lessened actual debate and I I am a firm believer, like, again, if this were a professional sports team and I were the general manager of the coach, the biggest trait that I'm looking for in a debater is the skill of listening.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Listening is key to a debate. You have to hear what they're saying, and then you can counterpunch what they have to say. Now, in the process, you have to ask yourself, am I undercutting them and my winning? Because for being real, you know, performance is a path to winning. But for me, like, I'm going to say this. Stephen A. Smith is a very good debater. That does not mean that I think Stephen A. Smith wins debates. I don't think he's 162 and 0.
Starting point is 00:12:49 What I mean by that is I do know for a fact that he listens. Now, but he also has a huge component of performance. And it's almost works like this. His opening salvo, his opening argument is performance. But I would come in, I remember Joe Tessator saying, Kane, you're a counter puncher. You bob, you weave, you slip. And I would come out throwing the haymaker at him.
Starting point is 00:13:13 His initial thing is at the audience. My initial punch was at his nose. And he's now, you know, shocked a little bit. And he's listening. I can see his demeanor change and he's listening. And now we're in an interesting debate because he's thinking on his feet. I think Vance listens. I think he thinks on his feet.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I think Vivek is a pretty good debater. and I think he's a better debater when he's not performing. I think Ben Shapiro is a great debater. And I'm really fascinated, Pete, I got sucked into, because I saw it on social media, but there's this show on YouTube called Surrounded,
Starting point is 00:13:51 and I saw Charlie Kirk. And Charlie's pretty good at it. I'm not, I think Charlie's a good debater. I don't know that he's 100% in the class of the guys that I just mentioned, but he's surrounded by 20 liberals and he takes him on on like a two-minute clock, which is a fascinating format, and they get voted out by their fellow libs.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Like, if the fellow libs don't like the argument that you're making, they're out, someone else is in, and you go back and forth with Charlie Kirk. It's not just Charlie, by the, they run other people in there. Who do you like? Like, who would you draft as your debater? This is, so this is not just, I mean, I'm not going to complicate this unnecessarily, but in a debate for vice president or for president, because there's a lot of different debates.
Starting point is 00:14:32 You could have an academic debate. you could at what are we what are we debating here no i want to go broader and and i'm glad that you actually asked that question you broadened it because i need to think about others um because it can't be too academic pete there is a component of performance that is necessary to command attention if that's there was a thing called um iq yeah hold on real because there's a thing called iq squared i used to watch do it all these colleges i've done it once and it would get you know you've done iq squared like in For Matt, Pete, I really like it. It would, let's just for, it would maybe be Malcolm Gladwell and somebody else on the same
Starting point is 00:15:09 side of an issue against Matt Taibi and another person on his side of the issue. And what I think, what I love what they did with these IQ, IQ squared debates is they had the audience, the in-person audience vote on the resolution, right? How do you feel? And you'd vote and you'd see, okay, 60% of the audience agrees that free speech should be protected. And then after the debates, the audience votes again, and the winner, the winning team is the one that moved the audience. Not 51%. You know, you don't have to get the majority.
Starting point is 00:15:39 It's who moves the audience from their initial inclination. But it's a little academic IQ squared. No, I love it. I did an IQ squared debate in London in 2007. I was a new platoon leader back from Iraq. I was joined with William Shaw Cross. There were three teams. And they were all British parliamentarians.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I don't know how I showed up there. That's a whole other story. But it was all about the Iraq war and the surge. So I was on the surge is working, keep it going. There was a stay the course of the mission. And then there was an end the war group. And they pulled everybody beforehand. And then you get up and I gave like an eight minute speech.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Everybody gives a speech. And then there's a back and forth debate between everybody at the table over point counterpoint. And we actually picked up the most votes. So we did not have the most votes, but we picked up the most votes from before and after. You move the needle. Speaches and the debate. So we were the winners, even though we were. We were definitely out, we were trounced by the get out of the war, you know, with a British audience in, in 2007.
Starting point is 00:16:36 It's on the interweb somewhere. I would be tempted, somebody like Tom Cotton is a really good debater on the, on the, on the merits, but not on the performance side. So, I mean, and I like Tom, but it's, he will, you, you debate him and he knows his stuff and he can come at you and he won't back down. It's just the other side is not at, but then you can think of someone like a Jim Jordan who's really good and he does listen, but he's much, much better at aggregating all the things he knows about a subject and just reminding you everything that you're deficient on and doing it in a, just in a really powerful way. I think, I think Charlie Kirk is really good.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I've watched a lot of those clips too. I'd have to think, but Vance is up there. I mean, it depends on what you're looking for. Are you looking for a Mike Lee or you looking for a Ted Cruz? You know, we've got a lot of good debaters on our side. It depends on if you're debating a Supreme Court nominee or something broader. But I need to think about this. I'm not as a great example.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I would also list Will King, just saying. Oh, oh. Cruz is a great example, by the way, of incredibly intelligent and good debater, but bad at the performance aspect. And that's just the truth. I mean, he, you can just pull. your average Texan or American out there that even isn't on the same side of the issue as Ted, Senator Cruz, and you'll pick up what I'm putting down. You'll pick up this hesitation
Starting point is 00:18:05 towards a gravitation towards his personality, which is an extension of his performance or vice versa. And so that's the balance. It's like listening and critical thinking skills on your feet versus your ability to perform and entertain and thus command attention. Speaking of free speech, I used that as a hypothetical. This came out over the weekend, Pete, I was appalled. I was shocked, and then I was, like, appreciative, because he said it out loud. Listen to what John Kerry had to say about the concept of free speech and the First Amendment. Look, if people go to only one source, and the source they go to is sick and, you know, has an agenda, and they're putting out disinformation, our First Amendment stands as a major block to the ability to be able to just, you know, hammer it out of.
Starting point is 00:18:50 of existence. So what you need, what we need is to, is to win the ground, win the right to govern by hopefully having, you know, winning enough votes that you're free to be able to implement change. The follow-up question there, Pete, from the panel moderator was, are you saying democracy, are you saying that democracy is hard to balance with the First Amendment or with the concept of free speech and he says to me or he says in that that clip he says democracy is not efficient or not a productive means to accomplish your goals and he undercuts the idea in and of itself of democracy because it's too unwieldy that's what he says it's too inefficient to deal with big problems and i think he lays the game out there that they can they often cry save democracy in the
Starting point is 00:19:47 defensive democracy. And what they're really saying is all of these elements of a republic, and even the pure majoritarian concept of a democracy, stand in the way of his power. Yeah. It's why you've long seen Democrats and left-wingers infatuated with collective societies. Why were they enamored with what the USSR could do? Why are they enabbered with what the communist Chinese can do? Because in a command, as John Carroll, would say in a command and controlled economy, the ability to shift resources is immediate. And set a strategic directory in a way that otherwise we're distracted by every four years, another election. And our foreign policy is whiplashed by global engagement and then isolation
Starting point is 00:20:34 and treaties change and who can rely. All of that is given as true, by the way. However, I would, first of all, I would, I would lay the blame on the left and Democrats who have decided they hate the foundational aspects of our American Republic and as a result end up whiplashing the world with a different America every four years as we lurch further and further to the left. So the blame lies, I believe, with them. Now, not only there because engagement and left wing and interventionism has the spectrum on that has shifted a lot. But this is exactly who they are. This is the, this is the, this is every other modern left wing party in the world. except in America because of the First Amendment.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Where the First Amendment does not guard us, they have already encroached on your ability to speak because that was probably amongst other things the most radical aspect of what our founders said, which is no one else can restrict your speech at all. And because they saw what happened when the Crown was able to do that. So they'd scratch, they would end the filibuster and amend the First Amendment in a second if they could with a bunch of caveats around miss and disinformation. And you know who he was talking about there. I don't even have to hear the clip.
Starting point is 00:21:52 I'm sure he was talking about Fox News. Like, if they could defeat Fox News, they would. It's been just like Rush Limbaugh, they were trying to kick him off the air on the fairness doctrine, just like they would with Fox if they could. It's any, we're the one place that disrupts their overwhelming narrative and they hate it and they don't, they don't care about the First Amendment. Well, they know they don't care about the First Amendment at all. Fox News or X and I would say I want to take a moment to extend yes or X some appreciation to John
Starting point is 00:22:24 Kerry and I want to laud his honesty and his accuracy what I mean by that is he is being honest he is saying that he has an antagonistic approach not just to the First Amendment but admittedly as well toward democracy he believes in as you pointed out an efficient management concept of government that government should be and it's his vision i i believe i truly believe he believes he's the right guy to be the mackenzie consulting efficient manager of the united states of america and all of the little problems of america um that he probably thinks are bugs i would say he's accurate those are bugs in the system standing in the way of you becoming an efficient manager. I would call them features. You figure their bugs, I figure their features
Starting point is 00:23:20 of America. Look at this from the New Yorker, also laying it out. The headline in the New Yorker reads, is it time to torch the Constitution? Subhead, some scholars say that it's time to blame for the political dysfunction and that we need to start over. This is not like partisan conjecture. This isn't hyperbole. And I can't speak to exactly how universal it is, but I think, Pete, you make a wonderful point when you point to every other first world nation has moved beyond the idea that these are features. They think they're bugs. And they think that things like the Constitution and the First Amendment and the concept of free speech are things that hold society back from the progress that can be brought in by people like John Kerry. Yeah, their vision is
Starting point is 00:24:09 government at the center. Their vision is government drives the agenda, drives the top-down view of society is looked at through a government lens. And it just was never been the case in America. The idea was a small, limited government effectively meant to protect the rights given to you by God. That is a radical view vis-a-vis how human history has looked at the role of government and certainly how the left looks at role of government. And that's what makes us so. special that's what we're fighting for and it's an ingredient that's hard to describe when you're running against people who are telling you what the government will do for you as opposed to how the government is supposed to get out of your way and let you you do you you know let's do
Starting point is 00:24:54 that um speaking of efficient distribution of goods i wanted to this i find is a fascinating topic not only because of the impact it has on everyday americans but i think it presents an interesting conundrum for the right. And that is, as of today, longshoremen from Maine to Texas have gone on strike effectively beginning the shutdown of America's ports. Now, people have pointed out this is going to immediately impact your ability to find bananas on the store shelves within a week, perhaps. You're going to have trouble finding cars on the lot for sale. That the number of products out there that come through America's ports that are immediately going to begin to skyrocket in price and have a decreasing amount of supply is going to impact every
Starting point is 00:25:43 American. And this is the chief negotiator. I believe two days back in New York, you have this clip. This is the chief negotiator. Two of days, do you have this clip? I don't have this one. No. I could, let me find it, though. Yeah. That would be good. he says in this I see Pete laughing Hey, hey I see that laugh Come on That'd be good
Starting point is 00:26:10 I'd like you'd have that for me Can we find that? That's such a Will Kane That'd be good Yeah Yeah That would be good if we did What we talked about
Starting point is 00:26:18 In the pre-show meeting Oh wow I mean we're talking about Patrick What about me now Well It's going to be Two sets of two weeks notice
Starting point is 00:26:30 He said Pete they're going to cripple America. They could cripple it. And there's a lot of bravado in this chief negotiator and what he has to say and the impact on everyday Americans. Now, here's the thing I talk about when it comes to the right. Union workers, blue collar workers, this has been inroads for not just Donald Trump, but the Republican Party. But yet here you see a union using its power, pushing back on what they want is to avoid automation at ports. And on Fox and Friends this weekend, you and I were there. We had a guess to say, we're way behind the rest of the world. Like the rest of the world is automated cranes, automated ports. And I just kind of think this ends up being an
Starting point is 00:27:07 interesting place for the right. Like, okay, you've made inroads with union workers. And yet, it's pretty clear in this case that a union is standing in the way of not progressivism, but progress. This could be in October surprise that we were not anticipating. Imagine this drawing on. Imagine some products being not available or the price is skyrocketing. It's definitely falling on the plate of Harris and Biden. I mean, this is happening because these unions believe they have the most pro-union president they've had in a long time who will stand behind them in their demands with demand. And so you get, they know they don't have Ronald Reagan back there ready to clear the deck for the betterment of the nation. Biden's going to drag this along and they think they're
Starting point is 00:27:57 going to get a 77% pay increase and no automation as a result. If this really sticks for a couple of weeks and we're really feeling the pain, it could matter. I don't know what the Trump will, I have, knowing Trump's political instincts, he will play it right. He'll play into reflecting the concerns of the workers of the union members in a way that's politically useful, what that actually looks like in the form of policies a whole other thing in a world where there's a lot more innovation right now he doesn't have to worry about that right now he's got 34 days and he can talk about that without having to commit to a policy position which could be politically beneficial i don't know all i know is that jen just bought more paper towels and toilet paper i mean this is what people do oh really
Starting point is 00:28:45 oh yeah yeah she saw the dock workers you're talking up you're hoarding you bought some bananas too yeah so we're ready for this i know you're a big banana guy he loves you love love the banana. You love everything from the aesthetics of the banana to the way it tastes. You're big banana guy. To how you eat it to everything. It's just, everything about it makes me just want more bananas. And you love a banana. Every morning, Will Cain before the show's house and a banana. Like, there's nothing in this world less that I would put in my mouth at 5.50 a.m. than a banana. But, hey, to each, to each their own. Yeah, I'm, I'm being sarcastic because I'm the banana guy. I think it's the perfect fruit. I think it comes with its own handheld container.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I think it's sweet but not too sweet. I think also I like the amount of time it takes to eat a banana. Like it's not too long. It's not too short. I think it's nutritious. I rank the banana number one. The apple, which I enjoy, it's just more work. It's more work than banana.
Starting point is 00:29:51 If you don't slice the apple, then it's going to be all on your chin. and on your hands, you know, I don't even know what fruit I would put in the running with the banana. I think the banana is winning, running away. I think it's on the gold medal podium, and it's looking down and can't even see who's silver. The reason it's not on the gold medal podium is because it doesn't taste good.
Starting point is 00:30:13 It's bland. It's boring. It's like, it's, it's not about what kind of packaging it comes in. How does it feel when it's in my mouth? So that's why I'm a raspberries guy, because it's got real good flavor there. But I don't eat a lot of fruit, but raspberry is my number one.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Yeah. It's delightful. If you went to a snow cone stand, right? And you're at the snow cone stand, and you can pick the syrup you want poured on your snow cone. Would you pick raspberry? I pick grape. I'm going to tell you what I would go.
Starting point is 00:30:44 You'd pick grape? Yep. You are nine years old and stayed nine years old. It's such a nine-year-old pick. so good so good what would you pick banana
Starting point is 00:30:57 pineapple no no definitely not pineapple banana would make its way into my rotation like one out of
Starting point is 00:31:05 every 10 snow cones it's not off the table but the number one draft pick is blue so it's probably coconut coconut usually comes blue
Starting point is 00:31:13 or white I'm a nine year old too I like blue blue looks refreshing in snow cone is like more nine year old than grape but
Starting point is 00:31:21 I would say cherry is yes i'm a nine-year-old too so cherry and and so like sometimes blue is blue raspberry and that's always a little disappointing you want it to be co you want it to be coconut no nobody likes coconut either i don't know what the heck nobody likes coconut coconut another bland sideways flavor coconut coconut coconut flavor is not the fruit coconut that's um general mills made in a cancer-causing factory thing they developed in the 1950s and i agree with you like i don't want anything to do with coconut water and even as a fruit i don't want coconut on my desserts huge mistake but as a um synthetic flavoring they did coconut right because it's nothing like coconut they upgraded it just like they
Starting point is 00:32:06 upgrade the banana flavoring because there's not enough flavor in the real thing whereas raspberry has a punch right there anyway all right let's uh move to this um let's just take a minute pete and let's just say good job two a days you found the the union worker close clip. It's entirely too late. The conversation's moved on. Do you think the audience wants to hear the clip now? I want the audience. I want the audience to hear the clip now.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I've heard it. It's good. Because you want the credit. Exactly. Because you want the credit, two of days. You went to the show, you hustled. I did clarify after the meeting. I said, I have these two clips. Anything else? I'm just saying. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:48 For the audience's benefit, but more importantly, two a days, here is. is the union's chief negotiator. Earlier, go went from 30 moves and now, maybe the eight. They're going to be like this. Who's going to win here in the long run?
Starting point is 00:33:04 You're better off sitting down and let's get a contract and let's move on with this world. And today's world, I'll cripple you. I will cripple you and you have no idea what that means. That guy is straight out of the wire. That guy is straight out of Sopranos.
Starting point is 00:33:23 The point is, right, like more, 80% or more than we know it comes through ports. And so if it doesn't come in, it's not here. I don't know what that number is, but he's probably right. That's got to become a mean. I will cripple you. I'll cripple you. That's, that's, you don't want to run into that guy at the docks. That guy.
Starting point is 00:33:43 That guy's connected. Joe Biden, Pete, this from Tom Bevin over at Real Clear Politics. It's September 30th. This was as of yesterday. Biden has done three public events this month. He did eight last month. This is the sitting president of the United States, and it made me wonder, I need some context. What are we getting from the president?
Starting point is 00:34:04 So according to CNN, this was back in February, the amount of interviews done by presidents at that point in their presidency. Obama, 422, Trump 300, Biden, 83. Okay, that's interviews. How about number of press conferences as of June 30th, Biden, 164, okay, same period in time. Trump, 468, Obama 570, Bush 248, Clinton 310, on and on, Biden by far the lowest. Joe Biden pops up here and there, Pete, but this is the sitting president of the United States that no one is paying attention. to like he's not anywhere much to be found besides rohobith beach and no one cares no one's paying attention to it because it's all about the person running for president or the two people running
Starting point is 00:35:04 for president trump harris the sitting president of the united states has disappeared peep i thought about that gus i mean the gig is up the whole thing was a sham now that he doesn't have to run they're not even trying to pretend we're not they're not pretending and we're not pretending That's the thing. It's not as if I'm actually wondering what's going on. I know exactly what's going on. It's nap time and ice cream and, you know, it is, and they've decided that's what's best for him. And so he's going to, and you know, who else knows that is BB Net Yahoo. He's going to do whatever he wants. And by the way, they're a sovereign country, so they should do whatever they want. But he's going to do whatever they want because there's no one home. And no one speaks with any authority. That's why I think the chances of escalation. are actually lower than we think, thankfully, on the world stage, because I think Iran doesn't want to deal with an unbridled Israel, which is far more devastating to them than one where America is impeding what they're attempting to do. So, yeah, this is, this might be a moment we look back on. No, unless something crazy happens, I think we're just going to let it slide, be like,
Starting point is 00:36:15 hey, he's done. Senioritis, he's over. We're past him. The administrative state will run itself. but it really is it's not even sad it's amusing at this point i think i think there's two stories that given a decade in the rearview mirror will have repercussions that we will talk about um one is the condition of joe biden that will continue to be something we learn in the future how how much in decline how much in retirement books will be written about it and the cooks will be written about it and the cost to america and the cost to america because two To your point, he may just be able to fade into January, but there's a risk that something happens, and we pay the price for a sitting president who is sitting in Roebuth Beach, who is
Starting point is 00:37:04 effectively the walking dead. And that will be a huge story that we'll see the repercussions of over a decade. The other, by the way, is, I think, illegal immigration, the number of not just criminals, but potential terrorists who have made their way into this country, and that I don't know that we'll ever suffer an October 7th style attack in America, but I do think that we're running a risk of that threat already present in the streets and cities of America. And we'll have to look back on this moment in time, this four-year period, and say, this is when it happened. This is when those seeds were planted. Yep, I would agree. I would only add a third, which is the transing of kids and the
Starting point is 00:37:39 fallout of that 10 years from now and who that points at. Finally this, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has been out there campaigning for Donald Trump, had some interesting things to say from a lifelong leftist, from a Democrat, and make no mistake, that's Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Now, even though he's saying things today that are interesting, this is who he is. So I think that's what makes this interesting, Pete, as he lays out three truisms about the government. Watch. We gave our government all these new powers, and I want you all to remember three things.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Three rules. One is that when you give a government of power, it will never voluntarily relinquish it. Second rule, that if you give them a government of power, it will ultimately abuse that power to the maximum extent possible. and the third rule is that nobody ever complied their way out of totalitarianism those are true i mean unassailably unquestionably true i would love to hear the counterpoint and i know we have people in the comment section on youtube and facebook who watch and listen to the will kane show who do not agree with will kane so i would love to hear the rebuttal to those three truisms and And Pete, it's coming from RFK Jr.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Yeah, I mean, you can understand his skepticism of government, given his family history. I mean, the first two I've heard before at some level, you know, this idea that both of them, Reagan said we're never, that the closest thing to eternal life is a government program, this idea that once you give it something, you're never going to voluntarily give it away. And the second one is they'll abuse any power they can have for the maximum extent possible. True. But this idea that you could comply your way out of totalitarianism, that's, you know, he's talking about that through the lens of COVID.
Starting point is 00:39:45 He's talking about that through the lens of the First Amendment. Ultimately, you're going to run cross sideways on something they don't like because they're hell bent on control. I think that message resonates. I hope it resonates with people who are on the fence about which way to go because it's clear where the blame lies when you point to who wants to expand. You got one side that wants to end and defund the Department of Education and return. it back to the states and then you have another that would like to federalize everything and get rid of the filibuster all right i'm going to let him get back to haying putting hay in the barn uh he spends his monday through friday working the farm uh did you get a lot of rain did you get
Starting point is 00:40:28 did did the creeks rise in middle tennessee they did and it's been a drought for two months so it was welcome rain here like i say that cheapishly because so many other people got pounded but it was a very manageable amount of rain here but you go west out toward knoxville and stuff it's pretty pretty pretty pretty dicey yeah all right i'll let him go work the farms and i appreciate you doing off the rails here on the will cane show pete hagg said thank you man speaking of that i know he's in middle tennessee and i know he has a creek that runs by his house um i spent some time i've been trying to get context of everything going on i don't know i'm just a big context guy I feel lost if I'm banging around in the forest, running into trees.
Starting point is 00:41:08 So I spent time on maps this morning looking at Asheville and Black Mountain, Grandfather Mountain. I had a viewer, a listener, email in talking to us about Grandfather Mountain and a lot of these support communities around Asheville that work tourism. And, you know, this whole area that we're talking about, we're seeing this in, just as you probably know, and I just need to teach myself, deep in the Smoky Mountains, Blue Ridge Mountains, So carved up with rivers and creeks and streams running in there.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I'm forgetting all the names of them, but I looked at it. It's like two rivers and multiple creeks and streams running into Asheville. And by the way, all which seem to intersect and converge kind of around downtown. So then you can see if you drum three feet of water on an area, you know, the creeks rise, the rivers rise, the groundwater runs off. And now you're talking about massive underwater towns flooding. And by the way, the pace of the water, just washing away. so much. Just horrible, horrible stuff out there in South Carolina, eastern Tennessee, and most notably Western Kentucky. All right, I have your comments
Starting point is 00:42:13 about what to expect tonight in the vice presidential debate. So I'm going to lay out for you. The three things to watch for tonight as the two candidates for vice president face off. Next on the Will Kane Show. Fox News Audio presents Unsolved with James Patterson. Every crime tells the story. But some stories are left unfinished. Somebody knows. Real cases, real people. Listen and follow now at Fox True Crime.com. at YouTube or on Spotify or on Apple. It's not available for interactive improv. Boy, I bet you're good at this interactive improv. I want you call in. Let's put it to the test.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Who says, this is what Fox News shows, not even a good podcast. I like blue, he quotes. I assume it's a he. Could be a she. Could be whatever interactive improv chooses any given hour. Well, it's the number one podcast on Fox. Far and away, top one. But hey, man, you do you. Call in. go ahead join in to the will cane show let's see how good you are at improv how good you are at debate um making money stephen says jd vance is going to win brian reed said it's going to be hilarious to see vance become even more hated by more women in the country brandon yury says vance is awkward and says unforced errors too frequently and then MAGA says what's weird about Waltz
Starting point is 00:44:04 I'm going to address each one of those comments I'll lay out for you by the way the three things to watch for in tonight's debate number one Tim Waltz his jazz hands and his flair Tim Waltz despite how many times he may describe
Starting point is 00:44:22 J.D. Vance as weird and as Brandon Yuri on YouTube says Vance is awkward. Tim Waltz is about the most awkward and weird dude that I can imagine. I never saw a single coach. Not that I have, well, you know what, I've been around a lot. High school sports, college sports, involved in professional sports, working five years
Starting point is 00:44:45 at ESPN, interacting with a lot of coaches. I've never seen one with jazz hands and high stepper kicks. Never seen it, okay? Something's off. And I'm just telling you the way that it is. Something's off with Tim Walt. So I want to see how he comes prancing out. tonight you know hands waving in the air awkward angles awkward angles on his hands jazz hands i want to see how
Starting point is 00:45:14 tim waltz comes off the man who proclaims to have taken back masculinity camo hats and football from the republican party i think his performance is key to this we've talked about this in the wake of other debates. It's often been said, and I think I usually go back to attribute it to Ronald Reagan's communication advisor, but it's something like 80% how you look, 20% how you sound, and only 10% what you have to say. That's how people internalize you. Well, he looks off, and he sounds off. For what it's worth, it's interesting to note the rules. The debate is going to be at 9 p.m. Eastern Time tonight. CBS moderators.
Starting point is 00:45:55 It's also be aired on Fox. You can watch Fox News and watch the debate. The mics will not be muted between candidates speaking like they were with Trump and Kamala Harris. And that gives J.D. Vance the opportunity to press, be rough with Tim Waltz. There are those that are suggesting, and maybe it's the lowering of expectations that Waltz gets defensive, irritable. so he's got to deal with the dichotomy of the joyful campaign and he's literally the cheerleader
Starting point is 00:46:26 he's Kamala Harris's cheerleader pom-poms and all versus being super old grumpy man I think that Tim Walts's performance is going to be key to this debate to the extent that and Kelly Heilman on YouTube says she disagrees with Pete Hegg said
Starting point is 00:46:48 she says that debates do matter. To the extent that debates matter, I think that the way Tim Waltz looks, and I'm going to combine physical appearance with mannerisms and behavior, is going to matter. That's number one. Number two, now to J.D. Vance. And somebody like Brian Reed on YouTube saying,
Starting point is 00:47:09 it's going to be hilarious to see Vance become even more hated by even more women in this country. M. Branden, Yuri again, who says Vance is awkward. and says unforced errors too frequently. I guess the reference to unforced errors might be to the cat lady thing, which predates his candidacy and goes back years. Now, I expect Tim Waltz will push him on that. He's going to push him on everything.
Starting point is 00:47:31 What do you want to bet? What do you think the over-under is on the number of times Tim Waltz mentions the word couch? And if you wonder why he'll say couch, look it up. But it's a lie. It's an internet rumor. It's a distortion of something from J.D. Vance's book it's come no it's not even that it was a reddit lie that somebody made up about jans here i'll tell
Starting point is 00:47:54 you you don't have to look it up the jd vance had sex with his couch like some dude like a troll poster made it up it went viral and then because there's just no concern whatsoever for the truth politicians have taken it up vance has already done it i mean waltz has already done it he's brought it up in speeches made jokes about a couch what do you want to bet he does it tonight you know he's going to bring up dogs and cats and that kind of thing but here's what i think i think as the candidate i don't see too many enforced errors from jd vans i really don't brandon and brian you have lived in a world which is either an algorithm or a cable news channel that has fed you this idea and fed a lot of women this idea that jd vans is ultimately hateable i know his numbers
Starting point is 00:48:39 39% approval rating 52% something like that um disapproval rating i know that what i would suspect is, I actually think this is a huge opportunity for J.D. Vance to disprove the manufactured image that's been created in the algorithm or on cable news about who he is. If you've ever watched any of the Sunday morning show interviews where he takes on debates basically, adversarial interviews every time he talks, he not only wins, like logically, but he interacts in a respectful manner while. Now, not soft. Respectful doesn't mean soft. And respectful doesn't mean allowing yourself to get steamrolled but not coming off defensive abrasive like an a hole and i think he does a pretty good job of that and this is extended exposure in that exact environment either to tim waltz
Starting point is 00:49:28 or to the moderators and i would say to you that i think that jd vance certainly has more to win tonight than tim waltz it's like you could say on this front when it comes to approval ratings these guys. Walsh is going to be kind of playing he's not going to be playing pre-vent defense but he's going to be playing with a lead and J.D. Vance is going to playing from behind but J.D. Vance has the ball and can advance and I think he's going to
Starting point is 00:49:56 if not score a touchdown. He's going to put himself in scoring position here in this debate. I don't know if the football coach can keep up with that. His eyes may have been on the sidelines as he was envisioning himself a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader. And then third, third, the moderators. This is hosted by CBS.
Starting point is 00:50:14 80% of CBS news coverage of Harris-Waltz has been positive. 80% coverage of Trump. Vance has been negative. From a lot of what I have heard, the ABC debate moderators, David Muir, coming out of the Trump Harris debate, not only hurt themselves, ratings went down for David Muir, but might have ended up helping Donald Trump by showing the uneven nature. of the playing field. If CBS does that tonight,
Starting point is 00:50:47 that's going to play into J.D. Vance's hands, not simply because it shows the audience exactly how tilted the playing field is, because J.D. Vance is really good at this, at going back at the moderators. I think the three things to watch for are Tim Walts's flair and performance.
Starting point is 00:51:03 J.D. Vance is playing from a 39% approval rating into his skill set of debating and what that means. And then the role played by the moderators in tonight's debate. We'll break it all down for you tomorrow here on the Will Kane show.
Starting point is 00:51:21 By the way, Crowbeast 707 says, coconut, you're out of your mind. Blue Raspberry is so much better than coconut. You've got to go Blue Raspberry or Cherry Snow Cone. Well, Crowbees, you can take it up with interactive improv, okay? He doesn't want to talk about snow cones. And then Christy Bolts,
Starting point is 00:51:42 says, why do union members get different laws than regular Americans who aren't in unions? Well, for one, the number of laws that address unions because they have played a massive role in the industrialization of America, a positive and negative effect. They improved working conditions for workers dating back into the late 1800s. It's just a historical fact that unions were also a conduit for Marxist Party USA to infiltrate, get political influence, and push their ideology, you know, the daily worker. And everybody's now asking, will Joe Biden invoke the Taft-Hartley Act, dating back, I believe, to the 1920s or 30s?
Starting point is 00:52:26 No, it would be before that, 19-teens, I think. The Taft-Hartley Act, which says the president can force them to go back to work for 90 days during a cooling-off period while negotiations continue. This is a story that, I mean, impacts a presidential election. Impacts, I think, while Pete's right, Trump doesn't have to address it. It does ultimately impact, like, the future of the Republican Party and who you are going to be and what you're going to advocate for. It's going to impact the lives of Americans.
Starting point is 00:52:55 All right. Coming up, we lost Pete Rose. We lost Akimbe Matumbo. We lost Chris Christofferson. Celebrity deaths always come in threes. Next in the Will Cain. it is time to take the quiz it's five questions in less than five minutes we ask people on the streets of new york city to play along let's see how you do take the quiz every day at the quiz dot fox then come back here to see how you did thank you for taking the quiz it is time to take the quiz it's five questions in less than five minutes we ask people on the streets of new york city to play along let's see how you do take the quiz every day at the quiz dot fox then come back here to see
Starting point is 00:53:37 how you did. Thank you for taking the quiz. Breaking news. As of 17 minutes ago, the headline reads Iranian missile attack underway against Israel. It's the Will Kane show streaming live at foxnews.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Hit subscribe at Apple, Spotify, or on YouTube. Jump into the comments section. become a member of the militia. The article at foxnews.com reads as follows. Iran's anticipated ballistic missile attack against Israel is now underway, according to Fox News chief foreign correspondent, Trey Yinks.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Yinks said initial reports indicate that around 100 missiles have been fired toward Israel. Israel's Iron Dome missile defense system could be seen intercepting the projectiles. The IDF also said in a statement that a short while ago, missiles were launched from Iran towards the state of Israel. Sirens could be heard going off across Israel during the attack, quote, the IDF is doing and will continue to do everything necessary to protect civilian, the civilians of Israel. The IDF is fully prepared for both defense and offense at peak readiness, said an IDF spokesperson. Continue to act responsibly and keep calm as you've done so far.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Make sure to follow the guidelines. That's the latest right there. from a missile attack from Iran on Israel. All right, we're going to keep our eyes on that and bring you anything. That's obviously huge breaking news that will keep our eye on. I don't have anything more as of this moment. It'll be interesting to find out to watch and see the level of sophistication and offensiveness of Iran's attack.
Starting point is 00:55:34 You remember the attack some, what was it? It wasn't even a year ago. The drone strikes and some missiles as well, from Iran to Israel, Israel that were largely performative, easily shot down by Israel. Very, I think one or a handful got through and didn't hit populated areas. If this is similarly impotent from Iran, a performer strike designed to show, oh, we can't simply deal with you decapitating Hezbollah. but we need to do something to show some offensive strength, or is this the beginning of a regional war? Is this an all-out offensive?
Starting point is 00:56:09 On your screen right now, you're seeing some footage from some of those missiles overhead as they go from Iran to Israel. Obviously, the big fear of the big risk is, if this is more than performative, is this the advent of a wider regional war? We know that Hezbollah is, in essence, the front lines for Iran.
Starting point is 00:56:31 that as long as Hezbollah was there to do the dirty work and to also receive the brunt of the response from Israel, then Iran can sit safely behind that shield. That shield is and has been Hezbollah. It has been the Houthis in Yemen. It has been Syria. And it has been Hamas. Hamas somewhat decimated. Hezbollah now not gone, but decapitated.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Syria has been for years now engulfed in its own. civil war. The Houthi's been on the offensive against both Israel and America, having launched missiles from Yemen at Israel and attacking American ships. But if that barrier, if that shield between Israel and Iran begins to be deteriorated in a significant manner, does as Pete Hegeseth projected a little bit earlier, and as also, by the way, as speculated by Scott Mann, Lieutenant Colonel Scott Mann, former Special Forces yesterday on The Will Kane Show, does that cause Israel cause Iran to back down. Okay, we don't, we're not ready for this. We don't want this full-on war, which would lead us to believe what we're watching is more performative than
Starting point is 00:57:39 the beginning of a regional war. Or is this it for Iran? We have to now go. We have to do. We're going to find out as the details come out about this missile attack on Israel. I'll bring the guys in here. We're going to switch gears for just a moment because I've given you everything I know right now on that attack. We're going to return as anything else comes up. So yesterday, Pete Rose died. You know, Pete Rose is an interesting, forget sports figure, but cultural figure. Sports figure is one of the best baseball players of all time. He should have been in the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:58:12 He's kept out for gambling. And one of the stories, and I know ten full pats into it, is he's kept out for something that now everybody, not this show, who's talking about, is sponsored by a gambling podcast. We're not sponsored by a gambling podcast. Not yet. Or gambling. Not yet. So he's kept out for something that now, not only does everybody do, but is,
Starting point is 00:58:30 been legalized. Pete Rose became the, in two days, you definitely know this because Dan Patrick had a radio show, has one now and has had one for decades. It was, you know, like, with first take,
Starting point is 00:58:44 there's two stereotypical debates in sports. One, anything to do with the Dallas Cowboys, and two, Jordan v. LeBron. But once upon a time, but once upon a time, it was, should Pete Rose be in the Hall of Fame?
Starting point is 00:59:00 Like that was bread and butter If there's nothing else to talk about in sports Go back to should Pete Rose be in the Hall of Fame And because of that, I've told you guys this in the past If there are stories that feel like they're on a loop for me I tune out And so I never invested in Should Pete Rose be in the Hall of Fame
Starting point is 00:59:18 I just never It's like I have the adverse The opposite effect You know somebody they say you got to hammer a message Over and over and over for it to break through If I get hammered to many times I recoil away I don't want anything to do with it.
Starting point is 00:59:31 It's a moot point anyways because, yes, he should be in the Hall of Fame, but the people who are voting on it are not, we're never going to put him in there. So it doesn't even matter talking about it because it's not going to happen, never will happen. But yes, he should be. You know, everyone knows that. Well, he was the third. And so this weird thing, like do celebrities die in threes? So on Sunday night, I was told that on Saturday, I believe,
Starting point is 00:59:59 believe it was. Chris Christofferson died. Now, Chris Christopherson is a star in my world, right? Same. James, do you know who he is? Did you know before I put in the text chain? Had you ever heard of Chris Christofferson? No, I asked my roommates, too. They didn't know him either. They're country guys. Have you ever heard of the song, me and Bobby McGee? I have no idea who Bobby McGee is. Oh, my God. Have you ever heard of Janice Joplin? Yeah. and that was not a confident yeah no that was a yes that was I've heard of
Starting point is 01:00:36 what is Janice Joplin's most what is Janice Joplin's most famous song he's not going to know just connect the dots man well all my yeah it's like I'm painting by number was she was painting by numbers here for you
Starting point is 01:00:50 was she on uh was she on uh was she one of the exes from all my exes live in Texas no he tried to give himself out with a joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Her song is me and Bobby McGee.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Ah, which is an excellent song, James. You should go listen to it. Yeah, it would. More than your George straight joke. But it holds up, by the way. I'm like, I have confidence that it's a recommendation that you'll hear that. And you're like, oh, this is an awesome song. But it was written by Chris Christofferson.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Have you, James, have you ever heard of the highwomen? That sounds familiar. Not the ones in Brooklyn. Pat, have you heard of the highwaymen? Of course. Patrick, have you heard of the highwaymen? Yes. You do?
Starting point is 01:01:42 Yeah. So I don't have to test you. You can name the four highwomen. Yes. I literally just did this a couple days ago. Okay, name the four highwaymen. Johnny Cash, Chris Christofferson, Willie Nelson, and then I messed this one up
Starting point is 01:01:59 and I said because I keep mixing up the last one I can't now I'm blanking I said Merrill Haggard but it's not him it's uh it's uh
Starting point is 01:02:09 I can't I could I could do this the other day I did it he's my favorite one of the four I know he's great um yeah I'm blanking now and now I look stupid
Starting point is 01:02:24 on it is drum roll Wayland Jennings. Waylon Jennings, yes. That's the High Women. And James, I'd recommend you go check out that song as well. By the way, I thought you were saying, the High Women, which is also a supergroup. Because your Texas accent.
Starting point is 01:02:41 The High Women? Yeah, that's a super group. I thought you were saying that. The what? The High Women. The High Women. That's why I said Brooklyn after you said High Woman. I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:49 We were thinking you were saying the High Woman, High Women. What is that? I don't know. There's a lot of them. I have a feeling it didn't. I'm feeling it didn't change anything if I had said the highway men James would not have known
Starting point is 01:03:01 Oh, oh, the highway men Well Chris Christopherson is a country singer He didn't reach the level of fame That those other three guys did But he was also an actor He was in the 70s he was in a movie Called The Star is Born with Barbara Streisand
Starting point is 01:03:20 It was remade Obviously do you know that movie James The Star is born You know Bradley Cooper though Yeah Who's it? Dan Stop helping
Starting point is 01:03:30 He knows that He was gonna be fun He was From American sniper He was not gonna get that Yeah who was in Who was in a star is born James The modern remake
Starting point is 01:03:41 Angerina Jolie Nice Kate Winslet And Okay Okay It is Bradley Cooper And Lady Gaga
Starting point is 01:03:53 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, from the song. Yes, from the song. Chris Christoffson is the original character there. That might have even been a remake from a movie from the 40s. So that was the fourth one. Not positive, but... Oh, was it really? Yeah, the first one was the 1930s with Judy Garland.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Per to Per. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Christofferson was also in a movie with Mel Gibson called Payback. been in a lot of good movies um and to me and his politics do not align with mine like he's i used to answer this question like who's the coolest dude ever forget his politics just like the way he sounds the way he dresses the way he kind of carries himself the answer i think i would i might still say is chris christopherson like he just embodied cool go watch like old clips of
Starting point is 01:04:48 chris christopherson from the 70s and the 80s uh he's awesome so we lost chris christopher's Sofferson on Saturday. On Monday, we lost DeKimbe Mutumbo. Young. 58? Is that what I read? Very young. Yep.
Starting point is 01:05:04 58. Brain cancer? Mm-hmm. I think that's what it was. It was. Shocking. Most shocking of these, De Kimbe Mutumbo.
Starting point is 01:05:14 And then, of course, yesterday we lost, late yesterday we lost Pete Rose. And so that led us to this. Are we seeing thing through the lens of this thing that everyone talks about celebrities die in threes or does it really happen? You have some examples two a days. I do. So the biggest one that everyone remembers is Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett died on the same day and it was
Starting point is 01:05:33 the day after Ed McMahon died. So those were all really three really big ones right in a row within a day of each other. Okay. Then there was another one... Is Michael Jackson... Is Michael Jackson the biggest celebrity death of our lifetime? Covee Bryant?
Starting point is 01:05:51 Like which one, which one just dominated the news. Well, they literally... Michael Jackson. They showed coverage of his, like, parade of his funeral for days. Michael Jackson. It's the biggest one.
Starting point is 01:06:05 What else you have? So in 2016, there's another one. Alan Thick and Carrie Fisher and George Michael all died in a 10-day span. Alan Thick is dead? What?
Starting point is 01:06:16 Of course, yes. That was a big one, because those are three really big below. Let's give Patrick a moment. That's a good Patrick's moment You just broke the news to him That we lost Alan Thick I didn't know that
Starting point is 01:06:28 I just uh you're telling me now For the first time My bad buddy That's rough But All right Okay It's a couple examples
Starting point is 01:06:38 All right Then the other ones get a little 2020 Jimmy Buffett dive Steve Harwell The lead singer of Smash Mouth Followed soon after Then Gary Wright
Starting point is 01:06:48 Who wrote Dreamweaver All died within A short amount of time see that's the thing there's no defined amount of time exactly you can kind of impose this this thing in threes on whatever you want and patrick i think you said it well in the text chain for the show you said this is like a tony robin's thing like when tony robin says i want you to look at everything in this room that is red and then tell me when you're done and then say and then he asks you the question now rattle off everything that's brown and you can't you can't come up with anything because
Starting point is 01:07:20 Because life's about what you focus on and the frame you put on things. Like, obviously, this isn't real. This is just a frame we're putting on things. I actually looked it up. Finding a pattern in random data is actually called apophonia is the phenomenon that we think of this. Apophonia? Mm-hmm. So that's what kind of, like, brings us in.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Like, all the celebrities dying at 27 years old, Janice Joplin included to bring it back to the other. I never heard that one. You never heard that one? Oh, that's a big one. Kurt Cobain, Jimmy Hendricks, Janice Joplin. There's so many. There's young musicians in the 27 club that have passed away at 27 years. Was Ronnie Van Zant 27?
Starting point is 01:08:02 I don't know, but there's a ton of... 29. So it's just like weird coincidences that happen to do with numbers. If Ronnie Van Zant was 27 or 29, I mean, tell me that guy doesn't look like he's in late 30s to early 40s. So have you guys seen the meme going around about people in high school in the 80s? and they all look 35 years old. Aren't they actors? Do people look younger, longer now?
Starting point is 01:08:26 Or, like, did people age way earlier 20, 30 years ago? Lindy Man says it's because we're consuming more water as a society. Oh, yeah, I have a big thing of water every day. Jim. Because, like, there's a picture of the guys from Shears, and they're all, like, in their early to mid-30s, and they look like they're 50, every one of them. I mean, like... For Brimley, somebody was throwing that around. Did you know that in the natural,
Starting point is 01:08:53 Wilford Brimley was 49. He's my age. And by the way, he's only two years older. He's only two years older than Robert Redford in the same movie. And Redford's playing like, you know, pro baseball player. And Wilford Brimley, do you know when he was in Cacoon and they were doing the, like, retirement community movie?
Starting point is 01:09:11 How old was he then? I think he was like mid-40s. I don't know. Wilford Brimley's the oldest-looking young man you've ever seen in your life. So what's the guy from Cheers? What's the guy, Norm? He was only like 34 in Cheers or something like that.
Starting point is 01:09:26 And he looks so much older. The guy's sitting... Maggie Smith just died. So maybe it's not threes anymore, because that's four, right? That's true. Yeah, but we don't count things that don't make sense. We don't, we don't count things that don't fit into our narrative. Well, I'm creating a new narrative.
Starting point is 01:09:42 We all thought she was old because she played an old lady in Hook with Robin Williams. and so she's been like 90 for us in our minds for the last 40 years I kind of thought she'd passed away already yeah I just think it's not a good I think it's a bad sign for society that James not only doesn't know but mocks the idea that she should know Chris Christopherson it's bad it's real bad for America all right we're going to leave this one here by the way we'll keep you up to date tomorrow this seems like a big news the Iranian missile attack on Israel
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