Will Cain Country - President Biden’s Declaration Wasn’t An April Fool’s Joke, PLUS Mayor 'Kane'

Episode Date: April 2, 2024

Story #1: Was President Biden in on the ‘Trans Day of Visibility’ or are his little radicals running the White House? Either way, he looks like April’s Fool. Story #2: Is Knoxville, TN the perfect city in America? PLUS, the parallels between wresting and politics with WWE Hall of Fame wrestler and Mayor of Knox County, TN Glenn Jacobs AKA ‘Kane’. Story #3: Bringing back the ‘Willitia’ and The Crew weighs in on if Will should be ashamed of watching ‘The Perfect Match.’   Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, was Joe Biden in on the Trans Day of Visibility, or are the little radicals running the White House? Either way, it makes him look like April's Fool. Two, Mayor Glenn Jacobs, aka Kane, W.E. Hall of Famer and the mayor of Knox County, Tennessee, here on the Will Cain Show to discuss the perfect city in America, Knoxville, Tennessee. And three, my journey on fate, the reconstitution of the Wallitia, and whether or not I should be ashamed of the perfect match. It is the Will Cain Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel. Facebook page and always on demand at Spotify or on Apple. Just hit subscribe and you can watch the Wilcane podcast on YouTube anytime you like exclusive interviews, likes of which Dwayne the Rock

Johnson a few months ago here on the Will Cane show who will be with us again later this week a part two with the Rock. So make sure you hit subscribe in the text description of the Wilcane show right beneath this live feed, and you can hit subscribe to the Will Cain show. Yesterday's show was personal. I shared with you, as I always want to do, be as real, be as authentic, be as genuine as I possibly can to share as much as I can personally. And yesterday, I shared with you my personal path toward God. I talked about searching for a church in Dallas, Texas. It's a hard habit for me to form because I spend most of my week weekends in New York City, hosting Fox and Friends Weekday. But I included you on this journey,

which I intend to take over the coming months, and finding a community, finding a church in Dallas, Texas. I got some feedback, and I want to go through some of that today. For example, Jan Carroll Ford said to me on Instagram, you don't need religion. You need a person. His name is Jesus. Find him. And Coaster DJ said, agreed. You need to know Jesus as your saver first and foremost. Religion is man's interpretation of God. The church is not there to entertain us. The job of a church is to train. I agree with these sentiments, and it's the way I've lived much of my life, but it also has been something that has meant I have been out of the practice of spirituality. What I mean by that is I believe your spirit, like your mind and your body, needs discipline.

It needs focus. It needs practice. Just like we need to work out for our body. We need to work. out our spirit. If we don't read, if we don't continue to learn, then we don't continue to grow in wisdom. And I think that while God doesn't have to be found in a church, he does have to be exercised. It does require discipline. Your spirit does require attention. Maybe you can do that through daily prayer and devotion and reading. Maybe it's worth listening to a virtuous sermon that helps you in the process, the practice of spirituality. Also on Instagram, Mark Kamains said, good luck. I found that most churches are just glorified social clubs and of not much use.

Instead of going to church, be the church. And I appreciate that, Mark. But I only think that church service can become practice. But I also think that that community service, is reinforcement. I have really come to believe with, I think, the humility of older age, in the value of community. It can't be overstated the value of family. And the concentric circle outside of family is community. And I do believe finding a community is important, a reinforcement, a connection point that helps you in that own practice, that own discipline

in the search for God. I will come back to this. We will talk about some of your feedback today, as well as whether or not we need to reconstitute the Wallitia and your feedback on my gross habit of the perfect match. Right after we talked to a W.W.E. Hall of Famer, but more importantly now, the mayor of Knox County, Tennessee. And that's all coming up here soon on the Wilcane show. But first, story number one. Was Joe Biden in on the now infamous recognition of the Trans Day of Visibility that fell on Easter Sunday? Real clear. politics, Philip Wegman tweeted out the following. When pressed about Speaker Mike Johnson, condemning Biden, acknowledging and proclaiming that the Trans Day of Visibility, Biden responded,

I didn't do that. When said that's exactly what Johnson accused him of doing, President Biden replied, he's thoroughly uninformed. Leaving us with one of two options, Joe Biden doesn't know what's going on in his White House and the radicals inside are running the asylum or running the United States of America. Or Joe Biden did know and now is lying to the face of America. It's hard to know the truth. It's hard to know the truth in part because at least a third of our calendar now, according to Fox News Digital, who did a tally, a third of our calendar is devoted to LGBTQ celebration. Of course, the entire month of June is pride. I really honestly wasn't very aware before this year of the Trans Day of Visibility.

There's National Lesbians Day, Pink Day. There are so many days that you can't really sit here and memorize and repeat to an audience. But according to Fox News Digital, it makes up a full third of our annual calendar. It's also hard to know what to believe because this all seemed to come out the day after Easter. It came out on April 1st. It came out on April Fool's Day. April Fool's Day. So historically, no one really knows where it all originated.

Apparently goes back to the 15th century. Maybe it was Jeffrey Chaucer. But what's weird about April Fool's is it's celebrated, not just across the Western world, but across most of the world, or much of the world, at the very least. Celebrated in places like Iran. Celebrate here in America with some good ones. I mean, there was a saracha-flavored toothpaste, a del taco spicy flavored tic-tac. Brands are jumping all over this. By the way, I experienced a horrific April Fool's Day.

I mean, really angry. So my wife is super end April Fool's, and I don't know why, but all of her college friends and all of her family knows, she's super end to April Fool's. This past weekend, we've talked about this. Both of my sons are into soccer. They train pretty highly. They're on very competitive soccer teams.

Very arguable that we as a family give too much attention to soccer. Well, last Friday, I was playing with the boys in the backyard, and they were playing barefoot. and my youngest son was shooting and he shot and just now by the way he's also experiencing a massive growth spurt like went to the doctor more on that in a moment went to the doctor and he's not yet 13 and he's 5-8 and he's far outpacing his old brother who's already six four so i do think he's in that position of like where is my body where are the ends of my limbs long and short of it is shooting he directly kicks the ground and i knew it was serious because he's not like a easy-crier

or a sympathy loser's limp type. So I knew it was something not good. And it didn't take long for it to swell up like a basketball. But he was saying it like it hurts in the middle of, you know, his metatarsal, the middle of the foot. And I'm like, I don't know how you'd break that by kicking the ground. I don't know what you did. So they went to the doctor yesterday, my wife and my son, to get an x-ray. And she tells me, she texts me, it's looking like his season is going to be over.

I said, come on, are you serious? I merely knew. Come on, April full. And she doesn't respond. She doesn't say, yeah, April Fool. Then she sends me a picture of him in a boot. Super sad face, suspiciously sad face, but still, I was left in that nether region. My cortisol levels were rising.

I was stressed. Come on. Then she sends me an x-ray of his foot. I don't know if you've ever seen an x-ray of a foot, but I can't tell if something's broken or not. All those bones, by the way, a lot of bones in your feet, and their spaces and lines between them, and I can't tell. She said it was broken in three places. So I'm looking across all of those metatarsals going, is that broken?

and I'm super mad because I'm already feeling like I'm being left in the nether region of whether not it's true or false. I don't know. And she doesn't respond to text, which she later says texts weren't going through at the doctor's office. And I told her at the time, I will never forgive you if you're doing an April Fool's. And she did, it was. It's a horrific, bad taste, April Fool's. And I told her as punishment, I'm going to tell the entire nation what a witch you are on April Fool's. So, I had my own here in the house, in the Cain Manor, on April Fool's. By the way, scotch brand tape put out of Scotch, or suggested they're putting out a label

of Scotch, you know, whiskey. And that takes us to Scotland. I don't know what's going on in Scotland. I don't know what's going on, okay? But it is in April Fool's. Scotland's National Parliament has passed a hate crime law that would make it a crime for you to misgender someone. call a man who says he's a woman a man.

Well, of course, Scotland's most infamous or notorious or celebrated reality truth-teller is interestingly fiction best-selling author, J.K. Rowling, of Harry Potter. And J.K. Rowling went to Twitter immediately. And she said stuff like, I hope that I am arrested when I return if this is the price of free speech. She tweeted, Scotland's Hate Crime Act comes into effect today. And women gain no additional protection, of course. but well-known trans-activist, Beth Douglas, darling of the prominent Scottish parliament politicians, falls within a protected category. Rallying then goes on to highlight 10 celebrated trans activists, right?

All men, pretending to be women. And then at the end, she tweets, April Fool's, all of these people, only kidding, of course. Obviously, the mentioned people in the above tweets aren't women at all, but they're men every last one of them. In passing the Scottish Hate Crime Act, Scottish Lawmakers, seem to have placed a higher value on the feelings of men performing their exhibition than on the protection of women or on the Western civilizational fundamental, foundational value of freedom of speech. I don't know what's going on in Scotland.

And it's hard to know anymore with April Fool's, what's real or what's fake. The Babylon B said CNN on April Fool's publishes real news, a true headline. It also hit my radar that the FDA has not. not taking down their infamous Ivermectin tweet that you are not a horse, despite a legal settlement 11 days ago where the FDA promised to take down propaganda that was not true, villainizing one of the world's safest and celebrated medications, Ivermectin, regardless of its effectiveness on COVID, Nobel Prize winning effective and safest medications in existence villainized as you are not a horse. And that was told to us as real news. Taking us back to

Joe Biden. I don't know if he was in on the Trans Day of Visibility. I don't know what's real. I know that either way, if his little radicals put out that tweet without his knowledge, that's an embarrassment on the White House. That makes Joe Biden a fool. If, in fact, he did know, and now he is lying, that makes him someone who willingly declared the Trans Day of Visibility, celebrate it on Easter Sunday, and then to compound his sin looks in the eye of America and lies, which would be not unheard of for Joe Biden. And either way, it makes him April's full. Mayor Glenn Jacobs of Knox County, Tennessee, is also known as Kane, a W.W.E. Hall of

of Famer. He's going to join us. I'm going to ask him, according to my theory and my calculations, whether or not Knoxville, Tennessee is the best town in America. That's next on the Wilcane Show. From the Fox News Podcasts Network. Hey there, it's me, Kennedy. Make sure to check out my podcast. Kennedy saves the world. It is five days a week, every week.

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Later this week, we're going to be hanging out for part two with Dwayne the Rock Johnson. But we don't have to wait to bring in the theme of WWE because we are now at story number to Glenn Jacobs is the mayor of Knox County, Tennessee. He is also known as Kane, a W.W.E. Hall of Famer. And he's with us now, right here on The Wheelcane Show. Mayor, great to have you on the show. Thanks for being with us. Thanks so much, well, I appreciate it. So let's just start with my theory. So I haven't lived everywhere. And of course, I'm talking to a homer, as you are the mayor of Knox County, Tennessee, which technically encompasses something much greater than Knoxville. But my theory, mayor, is that Knoxville, Tennessee, which I think

the city is somewhere around 200,000, the county is about 500,000. So I've always been understanding that Knoxville is about 300,000, is the perfect city in America. I think cities like where I live, Dallas are too big, and you get, you know, while you get all the convenience of a great big city in an airport, and you get a lot of the problems of a big city as well. And then I grew up in a town of 30,000 people in Texas. And that's pretty small. And the truth is, while you have a great community, you're missing some things. You got to drive maybe for a restaurant or whatever it may be. And you guys have basically the nice little Venn diagram of everything you need is there, but you still retain small town community. And to some extent, everybody knows everybody in Knoxville.

I absolutely agree. But even before COVID and we saw this migration around the country of people moving away from the big cities to the more mid-sized cities, such as us, as you said, Knoxville has about 200,000 people. The county overall has about 500,000 people. So 6% of people actually live outside of the city limits of Knoxville. And we do have something for everyone. We have some pretty cool sections of town with the dining and entertainment. And then actually, I live out in what most people would call country still. So I do believe we have something for everyone. We may not be perfect. However, if you're looking for America, you need to come to Knox County, Tennessee, because that's what we are. What does that mean? How are you America?

I mean, by the way, there's other cities in your Venn diagram. I don't know. Like, I think Lubbock is a great city, not as pretty as Knoxville. Waco. There's some other cities in your, in your demographic size range, but what makes you America? We're America because, you know, the values that have made this country great, that's what we still subscribe to. You know, individual freedom. We're business friendly. We want people to thrive, just prosper. We also realize that that's up to you. You know, the government's job is not to just give people money and say everything's great because we have all these wonderful programs. It's really to help folks in the private sector achieve those things on their own. We have a great

faith-based community. I really do believe that we have everything. We're really close to the Great Spoken Valley National Park as well, which gets about 14 million people a year, which is huge. So we have a lot of tourism here. And, of course, you can't forget, we have the University of Tennessee Balls, football and basketball who reached the elite eight for the first time ever this year. So we have a lot of great things going on. Yeah. Yeah, the fake UT there in Knoxville, the real UT, of course, in Texas. The real UT, go on. But I will say, I lived, there's no hiding it. You know, I will say I lived I lived in Blunt County there just outside of Knoxville for about four or five months during

COVID, and I did fall in love with it. I think you have a wonderful little corner of the country there, and I'm not just saying that because you're here. I do think it might be the perfect city in America. So what, you know, I'd love if you're willing to indulge it to some extent today. I would love to talk to you about W.W.E., but I want to talk about politics first. You know, you're an interesting guy. You know, I think throughout most of your life, you're self-described libertarian, but even more than that, you are, I think, self-described Rothbardian, which means you've studied or appreciated Murray Rothbard, who was, again, a self-described a narco-capitalist, which was, you know, very minimal involvement of government in everyday life.

Is that the philosophy that kind of governs you as a mayor? That certainly governs my thought pattern. You know, that's not the world we live in, obviously, so I have to navigate through that. But nevertheless, you know, I mentioned before we're talking about the great churches that we have here. And one of the first things I did when I came into office was I really started talking with those folks, you know, open up communication, especially, you know, issues that they're much better positioned to help with, such as opioid and drug epidemic and these other things that government, you know, we have limited tools. And often what happens is we have a hammer and we see everything as a nail. And so I try to think outside of the box in that I want to get other organizations involved as opposed to spend. the taxpayer money on stuff that is really not effective anyway, you know, say with addiction, I really believe that that is a problem of the spirit. You know, you have a hole that you're trying to fill so you turn to drugs. Government can't solve that, but churches and faith certainly play

a role. So one of my major things is trying to get the private sector and the nonprofit sector much more involved than activated and figure out how we can work with them better. I'm curious about you and we'll bounce back and forth between your current political positions and your past, not just as a wrestler, but I'm actually curious. So I have this right. You're seven foot tall, right? I'm about 6'8, but I'm pretty tall. You're 6'8.

Okay, build is 7 foot. But you're from Missouri. You know, you went to Northeast Missouri State, I believe, and I believe, and you always correct the bio, if I get it wrong. You played football and basketball, which. Okay, you know, a lot of wrestlers are former football players or athletes, but what really stood out to me about you, and I know Rick Flair to some extent, and you heard probably mention I've met The Rock, you majored in English literature, not exactly the football player's kinesiology degree. Like, there's clearly something with you that's a little six-eight athlete, but interested in Murray Rothbard and English literature. Yeah, probably because I wasn't smart enough for the physiology and kinesiology classes, actually. But nevertheless, that actually translated very well into wrestling because wrestling is all about stories.

And actually, life is really about stories as well, and that's the way they relate to people. So that degree has helped me a lot in that. I think that I understand communication, how to talk with folks, how to put things into a context. that makes it compelling. You know, too often what happens is politicians, you know, we get out here, and especially on the conservative side, and we'll spew statistics and numbers, people don't care about that. They want to know how these things impact their life. And I think because of that background that I have, that I've become pretty good at doing that and adapting that to this job. Well, I love what you said about life is about stories. And that, you know, how your wrestling

experience lends itself to the way you were educated, and now that's lending itself to politics. You know, there's a friend of our program, Outkicks Bobby Burrack, and he's written a lot about this. He's a big fan of wrestling, and he said, look, honestly, when you boil everything down, politics, life, kind of like what you said, wrestling is kind of the purest form of entertainment of anything else that we're doing, and like, politics is a form of character development. You know, you could also argue, is there k-fabe in politics? A lot of other things, you know, So it kind of makes you wonder, A, is that a good thing that so much of life emulates wrestling or the wrestling prepares you for other forms of life?

You could argue it's a bad thing. I mean, I think that was the central premise or part of a big character development in idiocracy. But I think that if either way, good or bad, you would also kind of think maybe there'd be more guys like you, taking that experience and storytelling out into a broader place of life. I don't know that it just necessarily means politics, but, you know, in life after wrestling. Well, you do see it like you talk about Dwayne, the Rock Johnson and everything that he's done, John Sina, what he's doing in Hollywood, you know, people like Mick Foley and Dolf Sigler, who have their comedy shows.

And also now my half-brother in Wrestling, The Undertaker, who's doing his kind of one-man show. So you do see it, I believe, in different ways. And one of the things that I'm really proud of and happy about when I look back on the wrestling industry is, you know, it used to be that we were just wrestlers, right? We were just jocks and, you know, probably a lot of folks consider this meatheads. But now you think about people like Dwayne and people like John Cena and everything that they've done. And I think someone said this to me today, you know, folks now understand you have the kids. characters, but then you also have the people behind the characters. You know, while we're wrestling, you kind of blur those lines a little bit, but, you know, now

with, and also with social media and the advent of all those things, and you see that the stories behind the characters are really compelling, and that's one thing at WWE has done very, very well, is delving into the people behind the characters. And, you know, as a wrestling fan myself, it's kind of hard because we pull back the curtain now, right? And it used to be, we didn't talk about any of those things. And now we pull back the curtain so people can see that. But I think going forward, you will probably see more folks in wrestling that get into other areas because of the ability and the platform that wrestling gave them. And if we're right, it's a, I mean, a really good platform to do so. Because, A, it puts you

on the public map pretty, how about this, in an underratedly big way. I don't think people appreciate how big wrestling is. And then B, do you agree? I mean, like, well, wrestling is kind of the heart of all entertainment. I mean, it is a distilled, I don't want to call it simplified, but, you know, it is, you know, baby face and heal. It's stories, it's a fight. And that's kind of, in the end, how a lot of people view the prism of the world. Yeah, it's live action Shakespeare is what it is.

It's good versus evil, you know. And one of the great blessings that I've come to realize about my career is I've had lots of folks tell me this. They might be going through a hard time in their life, and they're able to escape from that through wrestling. And as you said, it's, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it is simplified, obviously, but nevertheless, it is that struggle between good versus evil, um, between overcoming, uh, or, or submitting to, uh, whatever challenges you're facing. So I think you're exactly right. And again, you know, that's one of the great blessings now that I realize that that form of entertainment really does add value to people's lives in ways that I never thought that it did.

But is that, if it is the essence of entertainment, and it might be even the essence of how people see politics, Mayor, is that a good thing? Like, you know, is it as simple as good versus evil? And I think that definitely does exist in the world, right? But is that how we, is it a good thing that that's become how we also view almost every element of politics, you know, those that disagree or those are on a different political party or whatever may be, we see you through the same prism? Right. If people could see behind the scenes, you know, they'd realize that this is a team effort. Everything in WWE requires, everything from the performers in the ring who are working together to put on a great performance to the camera people who are getting the right shots, to the production people who are putting all. this stuff together and making a very slick package that looks great on TV. So ultimately, probably the thing we're leaving out is what goes on behind the scenes and it's all the teamwork

and camaraderie that goes into it. So you have those two different aspects of it. And so much of it also. Wait, wait, wait. Are you making a parallel of politics there? Are you saying that on the surface of politics, there's a lot of fighting, but beneath the surface, it requires teamwork? No, okay. And in some cases, you know, and unfortunately, when we saw this say with Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill, you know, who had very serious disagreements on policy, but they could still work together on some things. They could still get along, you know, behind the scenes. And there's nothing wrong with that. And of course, nowadays, there's so much vitriol everywhere that, you know, we, none of us can work together. I was telling someone one day, you know, they were talking about reaching across the aisle. I was like, man, you know, you you try to reach across the aisle in the current environment, you're going to pull back up a stump. I mean, you know, you're just going to get attacked. And that's very unfortunate because there are things that we could all probably look at and say, okay, we do have

some common ground here. But, you know, there are also some extreme elements that literally want to stop that from happening because they lose their influence. I don't think anything I want to ask you today completely leaves behind the theme of both wrestling and politics. I think they're intertwined, interestingly, in your life, and in perhaps society, but also in this interview. And so I also hope you'll like, you just talked about like pulling back the curtain. And I'm going to be honestly, I've been a wrestling fan at various levels, and you probably heard me say, I'm going to go to WrestleMania this weekend, but I probably don't know

all of the etiquette of an interview. So all I'll do is I'll ask, and you can tell me how you feel about it. But you talked about pulling back the curtain and the character and the person behind the character. I'm, as I mentioned, I'm from Texas, and I'm now 49 years old. So I grew up in a wrestling that was pre-WW.E. Like, when I was a kid, I was a fan, but it was regional wrestling promotions, right? And the biggest stars in the world to me were the Von Erick's.

And I was watching Iron Claw, and then I watched a documentary about the Von Erics recently. And they were talking about Fritz, the patriarch of the whole thing. Early, early in the 60s, he played a career, and he wanted to be, he was a heel, and he wanted to be the most evil thing you could think of or he along in a character developer or producer or promoter and so he was a Nazi and that's what the name Fritz von Erick was

and you know you played Kane or you are Kane and it's hellfire and brimstone and I do kind of wonder even in the documentary I saw Kevin von Erick was kind of like a little bit like he was a Nazi you know and I do wonder like when the character

becomes so much of your persona and who you are if you kind of struggle with that. Like, I wish that I wasn't publicly seen as a certain thing that might be disconnected from the values of me as a person. That's a great question. And certainly, Cain and Glenn Jacobs are two very different, very different individuals, right? For me, I've always been very grounded and understand that that was just my job, okay? And I was able to create a great character but still that's my job. It never defined me.

And thinking about it in that respect, you know, I've always been able to keep that separate. And I don't worry, I have the same thing as mayor, actually. You know, I don't worry about what all these folks are saying because they don't know me. They've never met me. They've never talked to me. The people that I worry about are the people who are close to me,

my family and my very close friends and ensuring that, you know, the Glenn Jacobs that they know is a good guy, right? Not hellfire and brimstone. Yeah, yeah, seriously. You know, so I've never really worried about that because I understand that I'm, I am playing a character, you know, and it's just like, I mean, I love Silence of the Lambs, you know, but I also realize that Anthony Hopkins is not Hannibal Lecter, okay?

But I appreciate his ability in that character. So that's something that, yeah, at times, I have because it's like, oh, man, I want to be like John Cena where everybody loves me, right? But that was never my role. And that's fine because I'm comfortable in my own skin. It might be easier to get elected, right? If you were a baby. I know you were at times a face and other times, but primarily a heel. I think imagine if you were John Cena and constantly the good guy, it might be easier to get elected. It might be. But at the end of the day, all wrestling did for me in that respect, my became persona. It really opened the door, right? I was

novelty. So people wanted to talk to me. I could get on the news and those sort of things. But at the end of the day, I also had to be able to put a sentence together to be able to talk coherently about policy and those sort of things. You know, so I think this idea that celebrities get elected because people, you know, they're still related to the celebrity. I think that's a little overrated. It might be true in some cases. But in mine, you know, again, I could kind of open the door with that, but if I couldn't walk through on my own, I was going to be in a lot of trouble.

Well, staying on wrestling from it, Rick Flair said you're the best in the world. A big show said you're the best big man ever. I mean, you're in the W.W.E. Hall of fame. You're an incredible, not just big man, but athlete. That's something I talked about in Iron Claw and a documentary that is this is an

athletic sport. By the way, just to tie a ribbon on that, did you ever know? You came along a little after them, it seems like. Did you ever know the Von Erick's? I did not actually I worked a lot with Michael Hayes who was one of the freebirds that was their big rivalry back in the day but

that was before my time what should I I'm taking my sons and my wife for that matter I've never been to WrestleMania any advice anything I should look for in particular any best way to enjoy

WrestleMania? It's a great show and there's just so much stuff to do not only with the WrestleMania show itself but also the convention the fan access that WWE puts on. So there's a lot of really cool stuff. Opportunities to meet some of the guys and some of the gals. So I would just soak the whole thing in.

You know, we're going to talk about a later on the show. When I had an ESPN radio show, my audience was called the Wilicia, and I was looking at your fans. And I could have done this, but you already took them. Canaanites. It's really good. It's really good. Might be better than Wollichia.

Not bad, right? They'd have to spell a different. But it'd still be okay. Let's go back to politics for just a moment now. It's interesting. Let's go back to this idea of storytelling and salesmanship. That's what comes so naturally based upon your career. That's what you've practiced.

And I want to, you know, as I mentioned, I spent some time there in eastern Tennessee, and I asked some people, and you know, I'm interesting, I heard two things. First of all, one of the things I heard, I'm sure you won't mind hearing some of this feedback. Somebody said, interestingly, he's smart, needs to work on his salesmanship because of the advanced Knox infrastructure plan got scuttled by three aldermen. I don't know. I mean, we don't want to get into necessarily local politics, but I am curious because you also, the thing about libertarianism often, and I don't know if that's how you would still describe yourself, is it's principled to the point of ostracizing reality and people. That's been, you know, I have flirted myself with libertarianism, and it loses practicality. ability to do what you said earlier, Mayor, which is tell stories and connect with human beings.

You did an awesome thing during COVID where you opposed the mask mandate, said it didn't make sense, blunt instrument. But I'm curious, like, is this piece of feedback incorrect? Like, is this how is, you know, is this still something you're learning in politics? Or, I don't know, like, talk to you about salesmanship versus principles as you're applying it there at the local level in Knox County. Sure. Again, it goes back to, we can talk about statistics and we can talk about numbers, but people really want to know how policies impact their lives. And the biggest issue that we have is really the short-term benefits of a program versus our policy versus the long-term detriments of the program and the unintended consequences.

This is something that Frederick Pessiat, the great French economist and statesman, talked about. And too often the sales pitch is the short-term. This is great. We're going to spend a bunch of money going to debt and we're going to give people something. What they don't talk about is we're going to spend a bunch of money going to debt and you're going to have to pay for that or your kids are going to have to pay for that. And there's going to be all these unintended consequences. So part of my job is to really illustrate when we're making decisions. It's not only about the short term.

It's not about the easy stuff. It's about what happens over the long term. You know, our country is $35 trillion in debt. No one's really talking about that. I mean, you know, because we've gotten all this free stuff. over the years. Well, that bill's coming due. And that's just kind of one of the issues with politics is the fact that it's easier to sell the big government programs because people say, oh, I'm going to get something as opposed to realizing that the price tag, which is often

hidden, is massive. And of course, you know, with the situation you were just talking about now, there's there's always politics involved, you know. So you can show people the best benefits in the world while you're doing something. And sometimes it's just not going to happen, unfortunately. But I truly believe, as you said, you know, it's just, it's about, it's about clear communication and about putting it in terms that everyone can relate to as opposed to being, I struggle with that sometimes, you know, because my communications people will tell me, you know, don't use this word because it's too wonkish and things like that. And that's true for conservatives too. you know, we, all of us, and I would consider myself, you know, in that camp, in both camps,

really, all of us have to be able to, I don't want to say sell, but all of us have to be able to articulate our positions and why we do things better and understand that it's not just about the short-term stuff, but it's also about the long-term stuff, which is going to have very destructive consequences. And connect emotionally, and I think that's the pathway of stories, is to, is to, is to connect to motion. Yeah. You know,

because most people think, yeah, that's how most folks think what's, that's what's going to happen. Yeah. Yeah, it's not good or bad.

It just is. It's the real world. And, and Kane is throwing down Bastiat. I know he's a big Von Mises fan in Rothbard, and his people have told him he's too wonkish. That's pretty freaking awesome for WW.

So here's the compliment on the other side. I've been told that you are a likely few, future governor of Tennessee. They've been talking about that and thinking about what my future holds. I am term limited. So on September 1st, 2006, I can no longer be in Knox County, Mayor. I can't run for the election.

And, you know, kind of thinking about what the future holds. I don't know what path I'm going to go down at this point. You know, so much of it really depends on family, but also where you think you'd be a best fit, where you could serve the best. And I'm still considering all those things. But thank you for a wonderful compliment. Well, so you are considering, though. You're debating it, you're weighing it.

You are considering running for government. At this point, kind of everything, everything's open. You know, so thinking about, again, thinking about that, I'm also sometimes thinking about maybe I'm just going to go fishing at some point. So we'll see. Well, let me ask you, well, I won't press you on whether or not you want to run for governor anymore. I also won't press you on if you want to run for governor anymore. president of the United States one day. But I would ask you this, and I am genuinely interested,

were you president? What would you make your top priority for America? Like, you've talked about the debt. You talked about the deficit. I know many, you were a fan of Ron Paul. I know many guys who like Ron Paul are extremely concerned about the Federal Reserve. So if you were president, what would you do? What's your top priority? The first thing I do is I'd actually repeal a withholding tax. You know, we have to understand the president should have limited powers. It really should be Congress making a lot of these decisions, but nevertheless, that's where we're at. That'd be the first thing, because I think once folks realize that when they get a refund back from the IRS, it's not really a refund. They've already paid into it.

And I think that a lot of folks would pay, if you actually had to write a check to the IRS, everybody around the country, you would probably pay a lot closer attention to how the federal government is spending, in many cases, wasting all this money. And you just have to look at the budget, and it's not even a scalpel anymore. to go through it with the chainsaw. Unfortunately, so much of the spending is baked in at this point. You know, Congress actually has very little discretionary, discretionary authority because of the things like the Social Security and Medicare and, you know, how to make those viable for the long term, that's a big issue as well. And then also look at things like Obamacare.

And, you know, when we think about how expensive health care is getting, it's funny because the more government can, gets involved, the higher prices get. And that's very difficult on everyone. So, you know, how do you how do you literally get rid of Obamacare, but do it in a way that is palatable and doesn't cause huge dislocations within the market? At some point, I'm afraid that with the massive amount of spending and debt, a lot of these problems are going to be solved for us in a way that we don't want. So I don't know if there's even time to get ahead of it at this point, again, with $35 trillion

in national debt. But nevertheless, those are the things I do is really cut spending and try to address the debt. But you're spot on on withholding, Mayor. I mean, it doesn't have a pain point for any American, and therefore the spending doesn't matter. If you have to write a check and you have to save for it and then you have to send it in once a year, it would have an entirely different relationship with the government, as opposed to it just being absent-mindedly withheld from your paycheck. And we all just kind of adjust our

standard of living to be about, you know, whatever it is, 25% of your total salary, I mean, 75%, 25% withheld from your total salary, whatever everyone's bracket might be. I totally agree with you. Just the proactive act of having to save and write a check would change the calculus for America. Last thing, Donald Trump. Tell me about your relationship with Donald Trump. I think any future political office right now, that's an extremely important endorsement. I would imagine you have a relationship with him to some extent going back to the WWE. Yeah, he was, obviously he helped promote some early WrestleMania.

He was in a WrestleMania. I think I might have shook his hand. I can't remember, you know, because it was kind of passing, right? And also, obviously at that time he was a celebrity, but he wasn't president of the United States. But afterwards, I have gotten to know him a little bit. I've met with him in private. He is very friendly, just very cordial. And, you know, what's happening to him now with all these indictments and everything?

Look, even if you hate Donald Trump, you have got to be alarmed by this lawfare that is taking place. And all these defenders of democracy. And literally, they will say it out loud now, that all these things are simply designed to keep Donald Trump out of the White House. Well, how is that a democratic process? So I have just massive respect. Look, if they were doing that to me, I'd be like, you know, Marlago's really nice this time of year. I think I'm going to retire there.

Instead, you have Donald Trump punching back and fighting as hard as he can, and that deserves everyone's respect. All right. Mayor Glenn Jacobs, also known as Kane, what an awesome conversation about, I don't know if we're talking about two separate worlds, wrestling and politics here on the Will Kane Show. Thank you so much, Mayor. Best of luck there in Knox County, Tennessee. Thanks, Will. I appreciate it. Have a good day. Okay, take care. Here we go. Again, I'll be headed to WrestleMania this weekend, and we'll have Dwayne the Rock Johnson on a little bit later this week. He wanted to talk again after our last year, and he said, yeah, let's do this again. Let's have a deeper, hopefully longer conversation.

So that should be taking place a little bit later this week here on the Will Cain Show. But next, reconstituting the Wallitia. And more on that journey to find a church and the bad habit of watching Perfect Match. Next on the Will Cain Show. Following Fox's initial donation to the Kerr County Flood Relief Fund, our generous viewers have answered the call to action across all Fox platforms and have helped raise $7 million. visit go dot fox forward slash tx flood relief to support relief and rebuilding efforts

re-constituting the willisha revisiting the journey for a church and the grotesqueness of my dedication to reality television in particular perfect match it's the will cane show streaming live at foxnews.com the fox news youtube channel the fox news facebook page and you can hit subscribe if you missed that interview with cane W.W.E. Hall of Famer. And now, Mayor of Knox County, Tennessee, who said he wants to end federal withholding in the income tax, then go hit subscribe on YouTube to the Will Kane Show. It's right now underneath this live stream and the text portion description of this show. There'll be a button. You can hit subscribe to the Will Kane show. You can get this in whole or in part. Exclusive interviews or YouTube shorts. I mentioned it with Mayor Glenn Jacobs. It's pretty awesome, you know, as Kane in the he called his fans Canaanites, pretty good, maybe the best thing I can think of to kind of put a name on an audience, except I was alerted to this recently. I didn't know. The guys over at Pardon My Take, which is number one sports podcast in the land. Big Cat and PFT had on one of my old

friends who hosts as well one of the most popular sports podcasts in the land, the Rosillo podcast. They had on Ryan Rosillo, and this was brought up. Listen. What do you call your fans? I didn't know what to call him. I was like, Ryan Rosillo. I was like, any Resilians here? And people were like, yeah, Rosillo.

I thought when Will Cain called his listeners the Wulisha, I was like, no. I like that. Yeah, it just couldn't be top, so I was out. The Wilicia. The Wilisha is really good. Yeah, it is very good. But also people would look at his politics, be like, no shit. Three percenters.

I mean, I don't think that's exactly spot-on Rissillo. But I get it. I get it. And I got me thinking, I didn't even think so at the time. Yes, when I had a radio show on ESPN, the audience, we called them, the Willisha. I never thought about, yeah, that's good, that's bad. I never even thought about kind of, like, audience brands before. I texted the guys, I'm like, maybe we should bring it back.

If it's that good, and it is pretty good, and maybe it's even better now that we We openly talk about politics, the willisha. Yeah, and does it reflect all of our politics? I don't know, you know? I've told you before, I don't know what far right is. I don't know what moderate is. I certainly don't know what alt-right is. None of this stuff makes any sense anymore.

There's not a spectrum. But I will say, good on you, because we need some militias out there to protect the homeland. That's not a bad word. Hell, it's in the Constitution. So let's do it. let's reconstitute the willisha well the willisha participated in the conversation yesterday when i said i was on the search for a church i shared with you some feedback from instagram a little bit earlier in the show so i wanted to walk through some of your emails some of your comments some of your post on

youtube or instagram and this is what you had to say um this first of all from uh please don't call me fran when you're visiting east texas come on over to cross point church and tyler good luck in your search. It's hard to find the community best for your family, but it's worth the effort. Thank you. Don't call me, Fran. I'm excited about the process. I'm excited about the effort. I'll include, I think I'll include the Willisha. I think we don't need sermons. I think we need less content that is full of certainty. Sometimes it's okay to be part of a process that is the search, because that's also called life. We also have this. from Coster, D.J. There is no perfect church. Our pastor goes through each chapter of the Bible and

discusses it. And what it means to our lives as Christians, I learn more than ever about God and Jesus in this church. You want to go to a Bible. I want to go to a Bible believing and Bible teaching church is the key. Here's the thing to that. And this is why I said earlier, look, I don't think there's such thing as the perfect church. And I think it's C.S. Lewis said you don't go about critiquing church. But I do think it's the workout. All right? You're into CrossFit, you're into Orange Theory, whatever. However, it works for you to get you more fit. I think Church becomes part of the workout routine.

In addition to, similar to those workout routines for your body, creating a community around that, you create a community around your spirit. We also have this from a Bratley. I was got to be careful reading these names. I've been got more than once, okay, on, you know, the Simpson style names. So I've got to be careful, and I read them very slowly. Look for a church that is preaching truth. No church is perfect.

We don't need religion. We just need Jesus. I understand. That's what we just discussed. And I don't disagree, but I see the value in also finding the right church. We also have this from Lee Holman, 10. Everything you described your searching for is found in the Catholic Church. The Universal Church of Jesus started 2,000 years ago, be open to it, and you will find the fullness of truth.

There were some Catholics yesterday that responded to me. me because I said, you know, I don't want something totally unencumbered, or totally encumbered by history and tradition. And that wasn't fully what I meant, because actually I love those concepts. And I've walked into churches in Europe and been like, man, I get it. Look at these cathedrals built. And I give Rachel Camposthia a hard time, like Uber Catholic, based upon selling penances. Good business built some beautiful buildings. I'm joking. Okay, we're all joking. I think it's, I really actually, really, really appreciate Catholicism. I told you I spoke to Cardinal Timothy Dolan last week, and I loved it.

And I get it. There's a reason for that beauty. Sit in a Catholic church in Europe or St. Patrick's in New York or wherever. And honestly, it's hard not to feel spiritual. And that's the point of it. There's a purpose to beauty. There's a purpose to architecture. and the purpose of it is a connection to something deeper, something inside of us,

and I think inside or outside and bigger than all of us. I don't diminish that at all, and there's a lot about Catholicism that I find very attractive. I simply didn't grow up Catholic. I grew up, like anybody in small town south, most everybody, I grew up very Protestant. And I do feel like a message that resonates with me is, you know, my producer, Tinfoil Pat, goes to a Latin mass and racial goes to a Latin mass. Hell, I can't even understand what they're saying. So I need a message that I not only understand, but mull over chew. As I mentioned,

I like an academic thinking sermon, even though it's a concept based on faith. It doesn't escape me. Ultimately, set your brain aside. But I still like understanding. I think it's because I think there are great arguments. And it's not about an argument, but I think there are great arguments for God. Again, I know it's not about an argument because ultimately, The virtue is that it's a leap of faith. But I want to have that conversation. I'm looking for the place that kind of helps, again, with that workout. All right, not just that, but I talked about perfect match yesterday, my trashy dating show.

I'm done with it now. And I think with it, I'm done with dating. Well, I'm not done with love is blind. They'll probably get me back. But I'm not going to come back for season two of perfect match, fellas. And as everyone has told me, that's good because that's gross. Did I win you over? Did I redeem myself at all with my intellectual argument about competition and sociology

and what it represents there in reality TV? That win you over at all? I think Patrick should go first on this. Patrick, what do you think about this? I think the Wolisha is such a good name. And it's kind of like a yin-yang effect because perfect match is such a bad show. The fact that you love it is so terrible. like I just expect more of you

just better of you that's like that's what I said yesterday when I analogized it to eat in a box of Twinkies like anybody sitting around me they wouldn't necessarily like their major takeaway would be that's gross

and they would just be disappointed in me I'm not mad I'm just disappointed really pretty much the part I don't get but you Dan wait real quick

Dan, didn't you tell me to watch a show with all these reality show characters and its same kind of sociological tribal thing going? Yeah, so it's a show called Traders, and it's really great. So it's kind of like the mole. Remember that show, The Mole back in the day where there's like someone trying to, you know, ruin the team? So it's that, but with all reality stars from all the shows. Like there's people from Survivor, people from Real Housewives, people from Bachelor, Big Brother. So it's funny to see them all talk about being reality stars together, and they're kind of like fighting to see who is the bigger, like, of all the reality stars. So it's kind of interesting. I kind of liked it. I had no idea who any of them were. My fiancé was like, oh, I love that guy. I love that guy. What's it on? I think it's on Peacock app.

So you're disappointed me, but you also recommend traitors. Go ahead, young establishment, James. You're too young for this. You see. I've seen reality TV. I can have opinions. I'm. The biggest thing here is like I understand it if say like your wife or one of your friends has it on the TV and you're just kind of sitting there and then after a couple episodes these showwriters are really good at getting you hooked and then you're like okay I'm in but you have how many shows on Netflix to choose from come on correct and you went with that and I watch it by myself you can watch World War II documentaries there was movies I just watch and I watch my comedy and I know it's not good and that's good you can watch con air having by the way I've got to do

I've got to do an Andrew Schultz special I follow Andrew Schultz on Instagram just as an aside and you know we've had comedians we've had Jimmy Phel on the show and how long it takes to workshop a comedy special you know it takes like a year right and then they

I've been watching some Andrew Schultz stuff he's rattling off really he's got a ditty bit he's doing that he couldn't have workshop more than once or twice because the story's been out for a week or two and he's nailing it. It's hilarious. He's next level if he's doing that stuff.

Like he's not ad-libbing it, but as close as you get to ad-libbing that. And by the way, have you ever seen Andrew Schultz? He does multicultural inside jokes. I saw one where he was in the Middle East doing inside ethnic stereotype jokes to Middle Eastern. about their microculture, you know what I mean, about what cars they drive versus what this other

group drives? And I mean, the level of research and knowledge he would have to have, I can't remember what country he was in, Abu Dhabi, but the level he would have to have of that culture to make that joke work locally is really mind-blowing, and then to write it quickly. I love Chappelle. I'm really into Shane Gillis right now, but I don't think I've ever watched a full show. special. I think I'm going to have, this guy might be doing something that's a whole another, by the way, big fan of Theo Vaughn, he might be doing something that's a whole another level here, Andrew Schultz.

Yeah, see, I think, do you know Nate Bargazzi? Yes. He's fantastic, too. He kind of like, he can craft everyday things in a way where it's just so funny and so smart in the simplest of ways. And it's just, I don't know how those guys do it. I know they're great writers and they're very funny. but it's just so fascinating to me that they could do that.

I've always wanted to try to stand up, but I would never would. You know, it's like one of the hardest things in the world, but they're so good. Well, whenever we have somebody on like this, like Jimmy, I always want to know about the process. And like if Andrew's on, like, yeah, okay, like everybody wants to talk about their politics, their opinions. I want to know Andrew Schultz's process, real, really fascinating and curious about how he's doing that turnaround on deep research or current events so quickly. Let's get him on. tinfoil. Get Andrew Schultz, tinfoil. What did Seinfeld used to do? He would just write thousands and thousands of little post-it notes and eventually he's just kind of atomic habit, 10,000 hour

method is his way. He sat down three hours a day, every day, and wrote on a legal pad. And so it's like eventually your mind, it just gets like morphed into that mindset. So it's all just about reps and consistency. Well, listen, guys, you're getting huge plaudits for all the booking. I mean, we're getting awesome guests. The Rock, Stephen A. Smith, Dave Portnoy, Tony Robbins. I can't even remember Senator Ram Paul, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. We got the Rock Part 2.

I mean, we're knocking out of the park. I don't see why you couldn't get Andrew Schultz. So I'll have an expectation. I can Andrew Schultz. I have an expectation. To bring it full circle, though, I think I will try the perfect match this week. No. I'm going to give it a shot. Don't.

You're only going to judge me harsher. Maybe one episode. It doesn't come with a recommendation. Like, I have recommended Love is Blind at least season one maybe, or I don't know. What was the other good season four? Okay. But this is not what I want you to judge me on. I don't want you judge me on the perfect match.

All the more reason to do it. I'm here to... Okay, that would be funny if you did it and gave your review. That would be really good. But I'm here to say, I'm not quitting reality TV. I'm about to start traders as soon as this show is over. All right. That's going to do it for me day here on the Will Kane show.

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