Will Cain Country - President Trump Is Cheered, Taylor Swift Is Booed at the Big Game! PLUS, The Crew's Idea For Next Year's Halftime Show

Episode Date: February 10, 2025

Will once again broadcasts live from New Orleans, just outside of the Caesars Superdome, the site of last night's Super Bowl. Will, The Crew, and Outkick Writer, Bobby Burack break down last night's game, and President Trump's historic appearance at the Big Game while simultaneously making major policy moves.  Plus, Will takes you behind the scenes of a star-studded weekend and also shares what halftime show would be better than Kendrick Lamar, where Patrick Mahomes now ranks historically, and why New Orleans may be the best city to host a Super Bowl.  Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's being broken down as we speak. Literally no other media on site here today. Everyone back home in their studios in New York City. But as they work to break down the Super Bowl here, today on the Will Ken Show live at foxnews.com. And also today at 4 o'clock on the Fox News channel, we will still be here where it all happened. Super Bowl 59. Your champion, the Philadelphia Eagles. Let's bring you the boys in New York, the boys in Florida. It's painful, but I have a weird respect at this point for the Philadelphia Eagles. I don't know if you guys feel this way

about your rivals. I don't know if you feel this way about the teams that you hate. But whether or not it's the Texas A&M Aggies or the Philadelphia Eagles, I come to respect their commitment, their passion, their unique devotion to their team. So I will tell you, I sat yesterday at the Super Bowl with my son in a section full of fans of Philadelphia. And I will come away from this giving them their flowers. That team is awesome. And that fan base is awesome. They're not my friends, you know, they're not, they're not my buddy, but that only increases the respect, that sense of rivalry. And they dominated the Kansas City Chiefs. It's almost like someone saw this coming on Friday show saying that they had a dominant

offense. I think somebody said that. We have a clip of Dan Sagan on Friday show. We have it in writing on my text chain at 525 p.m. yesterday. So I don't know what this is No one saw it coming is. They looked crazy. I mean, it was off the start. They just looked more dominant. Patrick Mahomes looked off his, you know, off his game completely. I don't recall.

I'm going to need some receipts. I don't recall that prediction. If you said the Philadelphia Eagles were going to win the Super Bowl, I will tip my cap. I did. I don't know. You predicted domination by the Eagles. No. You predicted domination.

That's what I'm talking about. Eagles by three, but I said the Eagles will win the Super Bowl, and I said Patchmore Holmes is a game manager, and he was going to have problems, and I called that. Eagles, Eagles by three is not going to sit on the road today. I meant 30. I meant 30. Sorry, I meant 30. That's what I really meant. And I got these. This is my point. I don't think anyone saw not only this outcome, but this style of victory. I do not think anyone saw the way that the Eagles would win the game. If we went into the game and said that the Kansas Chiefs would be able to

keep Sequin Barclay in check, you would say that's a victory. That means Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs. And Sequin Barclay, while he had his moments, I think he was over 100 yards and total yards, I believe, yesterday. But at no point in the game, did you feel like Sequan Barclay was the difference maker for the Philadelphia Eagles? It was a victory driven by two things, and neither did I see a single analyst sit there and say, this will determine the outcome of the Super Bowl. one Jalen Hertz Jalen Hertz was an absolute stud Wow and he was a stud through the air

Yeah he also ran for 77 yards Which is a Super Bowl record for a quarterback But he was a stud through the air And let's just take a moment and celebrate I think everyone should celebrate Jalen Hertz Think about this guy's personal story Hertz Was benched in the national championship game

for Alabama He was replaced by Tua Tua Alabama goes on to win the national championship game. He transfers to Oklahoma. And every step of the way, including me, I think that Hertz was doubted. No one, and neither did I, say Hertz is a bad quarterback. But I didn't think he was a multiple Reed quarterback. I didn't think he was a Super Bowl-level champion quarterback.

And his resilience, his integrity, I think, are something to be celebrated. I'm a big fan of Jalen Hertz. And two, domination by the Philadelphia Eagles defensive line. Just absolute domination. In the stadium, as it's unfolding, you're like, wow, what's wrong with Patrick Mahomes? Well, it's pretty actually easy to diagnose in retrospect. I think this is the telling stat of the game that the Eagles blitzed like twice in the entire game. They only blitzed Mahomes once or twice.

Really? And they had an almost 50% pressure rate. That means four guys were absolutely in his face within seconds. And everybody else could drop back into coverage. And, you know, Mahomes can do something in two seconds. Like, you give him two seconds, he'll find an open guy. There weren't open guys. I don't know what it looked like on TV, guys, but you could see it in the stadium.

Like, I'm looking down film. Like, I don't know where he's supposed to go. There's really not anybody. He wasn't on the top of his game because he did miss some guys here and there. But domination by the defensive line from Philadelphia. But doesn't this kind of fly in the face of that conversation we're having last week about quarterbacks who kind of have a dip after losing a Super Bowl?

I mean, it's got to put him up there, you know, hopefully moving forward. He could still keep winning. First guy since Elway to make the comeback. Yeah. Yeah, it makes him an exception. He's not. Now he's not in the category of, I don't know, Kerry Collins, of Jake Delome.

And no insult to those guys. We just know we know the history of Super Bowl quarterbacks who lost their debut. Jalen Hertz lost his debut. The vast majority of the time, they don't even make it back, much less win the Super Bowl. Now he's in really rare company, really rare company to go back and redeem himself in the Super Bowl. Go ahead. What does this do for Mahomes' legacy now? though. Moving forward. I mean, how do we

look at him? I mean, he's still one but... Fourth best? Okay. No. He didn't show up. I think it is... Brady. I think it doesn't impact I don't think it impacts his legacy at all. I'm going to see

because my suspicion is I'm going to have one big disagreement here, perhaps too. First of all, what do you think we're in? The first third of the book of the book of Patrick Mahomes. We're still in the first third. We're not even at the halfway point.

That's a tough question. How much longevity does he have? Injury is always hard to predict. And he moves more. He's not a pocket guy. Oh, I mean, injury is always a risk, but he's not shown that kind of fragility. Look, Brady lost the Super Bowl. I mean, we talk about the seven victories. I don't think this is going to end up impacting where we rank Patrick Mahomes.

So the rebuttal really quickly comes from first. You have 10 seconds, Young Establishment, James, as a New England Patriots homer. I think Tom Brady lost three Super Bowls by one possession games. Each of them were lost by inches, and now Mahomes has gotten blown out in the Super Bowl twice. I mean, it's like Jordan and LeBron here. You can make the argument that Mahomes is more talented, but he gets killed in the big game. I don't think the Tampa one counts as a blowout. Yeah, absolutely.

was a blowout. This is a resume. 31 to 9? All right. I think I got killed in that game. Mike's off. Ten seconds, tinfoil. I think that... I think I've lost my audio. You what? Oh, okay. I just think that like...

Go ahead. I think that we overvalue, like, a small portion. A lot of people have had really big... He looks Sterling Sharp. He had a very brief career and was out of NFL, you know, and still made the Hall of Fame, luckily, for him. But you just never know what the rest of some of these careers are going to be like. And, you know, I think we're

inflating that. And I think that's fair because one of the things we've done is, we've normalized Tom Brady. And he's not normal. To be that great for that long into your 40s, we have to give a little bit of a respect as well to somebody like Drew Breeze without the championships in multiple quantities played at that high level for a long time. Those are exceptions. Those are abnormalities. That's not the norman. By saying, oh, Mahomes will do it too for that long, we're really diminishing guys like Breeze and Brady and what they were able to do. So that's a fair point. I still think we're going to see Patrick Holmes for a very long time. I still think he's the second best quarterback of all time. And I still think he's going to make an assault. At some point, he will assault the legacy of Tom Brady. I had an incredible weekend here. I want to share with you, Some of what we did behind the scenes, my son flew in for the Super Bowl. I'm going to take you inside the stadium. Let's analyze the halftime performance and also analyze the vibe check here in America.

What all that represents. Two days, do we have our first guest joining us now here today on the Will Cane show? It is the man who likes to gloat along with Rachel Campos Duffy. It is outkicks Bobby Burrack joining us now. So you're the Rachel Campos Duffy whisperer. So when she gives me a bunch of lines on. on Fox and Friends and predicts the Eagles over the Chiefs. Now I know it's coming from Bobby Barrett.

So I just want to be transparent here. I'm looking over what outkick plans are right today. And in the hopper wheel, there's a headline that says, and I quote, Rachel Campos Duffy still knows more about football than Will Kane. Fair headline? Right, okay. It's not coming from me. No, it's not your byline?

As of right now, there's nobody. line. Oh, yeah, no way. I want to see who's going to put their name on it over at Alki. Okay. Well, go ahead. Are you willing to admit now that you are 0-2 against Rachel and football picks? What was her first one?

Something about DAC. Was it a DAC playoff game? It was the Packers upset over the Cowboys. Yes. Yeah, I'm willing to admit it. I mean, it's obvious for everyone to see. Yeah, I'm 0 and 2 against Rachel. Yes.

And not only that, it's not that she was right. She knew how the game was going to go. She said the over was going to hit. She said the Eagles are better at every position but quarterback. She said that the D line was going to get after the Chief's offensive line. So it's not just the accuracy of her predictions as to how she also is getting that right. She texted me yesterday and said that you didn't give her any. You gave her a few of the analysis talking points.

but it was her gut. She said it was my gut, Will, and you know my gut is always right. It was just my gut to go with the Eagles. I mean, she's been pretty good at it. And also, weren't you impressed that she picked the over? Because a lot of football experts, quote unquote, like your guy, Dan Orlowski, they said it under was going to hit. So to see Rachel go on television and predict the over and for it to hit,

look, I might have to contact the Fox Sports bosses to see about getting her in the booth with Tom Brady for the next Super Bowl that Fox airs. Yeah, Kurt, Jimmy, Howie, Strayhan, and Rachel, your future Fox NFL Sunday Countdown Show. I mean, look, I'm sure that's going to sell. That will be exciting. That will be explosive. That will be must-see TV.

All right, Bobby, the other big thing that everyone is analyzing today is the halftime show. Kendrick Lamar I think it's kind of interesting because the takes are across the board Bobby I see some people for example some on the right celebrating

it I saw C.J. Pearson who threw the famous party in Washington DC during the inauguration of Donald Trump that was mischaracterized by the New York magazine celebrating it I saw a few others perhaps Tommy Laren celebrating the performance by Kendall

Lamar. I saw a lot of others panning it saying it was the worst Super Bowl performance in history. I saw a lot of people saying I didn't get it. And then if I turn on sports television this morning, whether or not it be FS1 or ESPN, it's a pretty resounding celebration of Kendrick Lamar. What did you think about halftime? So I didn't like it. Now, my biggest gripe was not that it was political or hip-hop. Well, I couldn't understand what he was saying most of the time. I knew that one song, not like us, because it's what Drake and people discuss it all the time. But I couldn't actually understand a lot of what he said.

I thought the audio was poor. I didn't know any of the songs but that one. And I think what's fascinating here is he is the first halftime performer that is post monoculture, right? Meaning that he got famous when music became very niche. So a lot of people were unfamiliar with either him or most of his songs. Like say what you want about Dr. Dre or Snoop. dog the vast majority of people knew who they were i think a lot of people are like wait who's this

guy what's that song i think it's a very big development i mean i was going through the list last night every other performer was pre monoculture that's a really interesting point about the monoculture i my analysis and my sentiment is very similar to yours that that was niche music and that sounds like you're you're criticizing it it's not hold on Two days. You disagree with that characterization as well. On our morning call, you were busy telling us that hip-hop, rap, is the monoculture, or the dominant culture. And Kendall Kumar is far and away the biggest thing in hip-hop and rap. Yeah, I think he's one of the biggest artists right now. I mean, he is. He won so many Grammys. And I think looking outside of just rap, it does cross multiple genres, just how big he is, and pop culture. I mean, it is a bit niche. in the fact that not a lot of people know a lot of his songs. But I think, I mean, he's big enough to do those things.

I don't think rap lends itself well to an NFL halftime show. So I think that was a misstep. But I think he is up there as one of the biggest ones that could get ratings for them. Well, but to a day. But Bobby makes a good point about the monoculture because, like, Snoop and Dr. Dre worked. So it's not a rap thing. It's more this new culture that we live in where we're so fractured. And everybody can get information and entertainment.

tailored to them, that it's very hard to find, you know, we've had this discussion here together, guys, like, who is a stadium act? Who can actually fill an NFL stadium? And there's not many names that can do that. I'm perfectly willing to accept that my style of music that I choose to listen to when I'm riding in my car or sitting at my home is not, is not for everyone. And I wouldn't expect my, you know, I don't expect the red clay strays to perform at the halftime of the Super Bowl. but you know Morgan Wallen could he fills a stadium

I guess Zach Brian could I mean he does fill stadiums right now easily yeah you know and then I was told I was around a lot of executives this weekend for media companies that female pop is still the biggest thing so the likes of Beyonce's and Lady Gaga's

and Taylor Swift's that works at halftime Bobby well I think what's different now is 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, the biggest musicians were heard all over the radio. People don't really listen to radio music in the car at the same rate. They used to. They listen to Bluetooth, podcast, Spotify, Apple, YouTube, music. So I would reckon that over 70% of the audience last night had never heard any of Kendra's songs. And the numbers back that up. Yeah, hip hop is big, but Eminem, Kanye West, JZ, they used to sell 700,000 copies in the first week of a new album.

Kendrick Kumar sells about 120,000. So he is just not nearly as big as those before him. And that's not a knock on him. I think most musicians are in the same class other than Taylor Swift, maybe Bruno Mars. but the majority of active musicians right now, they have fractions of audiences, and I think it's going to make it very difficult going forward. Dan, could Kendrick Lamar film MetLife in New York?

Could he feel SOFI in L.A.? Absolutely, yeah. You think that those stadiums, and I've been to two of those in this past year, I've seen Morgan Wallen at MetLife, I've seen Zach Bryan at AT&T in Dallas. So you're talking about stadiums that hold 80,000, right? full capacity, but it's a concert,

so you lose the backside of the concert. So you're talking about 65,000 people, something like 60,000. You think Kendrick Lamar sells 60,000 tickets on a tour? For a stop. For a stop, yes. I think it depends what the city is, but I think,

yeah, he could, for sure. I mean, he's that popular. You're also talking about Snoop Dogg and Eminem. They're different artists. They're a little more pop rap. He's a little more like poetic and you know it's just a different kind of genre than just what we think about

like Snoop Dog Dr. Dre M&M things like that. I want you to fact check that while you're doing that. I want you to look up Kendrick Lamar's last tour like was he doing football stadiums basketball stadiums I accept 20, 30,000 people I accept

I want you tell me I want you to fact check if he's filling football stadiums I didn't get the controversy Bobby and it has something to do with not being able to understand with what he's saying either. Like, I didn't get it. Like, some people seem to think it was this rebuke of Trump or the rebuke of the movement of American culture.

If it was, it was over my head. Yeah, well, I think him as an artist, maybe, but I didn't see it last night. No, I didn't actually understand the Samuel L. Jackson part, honestly, where he was dressed like, I think Uncle Sam wasn't sure. Maybe that's me. Maybe other people did. No, I just couldn't understand the songs.

I didn't know any of the songs but the last one where, like last year, what is Rihanna? I knew most of her songs. I'm just like, don't know this one, don't know that one. This football game really sucks. I'm not even excited for the third quarter. So overall, I was not impressed by anything last night other than the Eagles defense. Go ahead, Dan. So I looked it up.

So he's going on tour. He's doing a stadium tour. So he's doing with Siza, U.S. Bank Stadium, N.R.G. Stadium, AT&T Stadium, Mercedes-Benz Stadium. Every place he's playing is a stadium coming up. MetLife, MetLife, Gillette, everything. So, yeah. Well, I stand, yeah, I stand corrected then. I mean, it wasn't for me. And you know, you guys know I went through my rap, my rap evolution, my rap education. We've talked about that. My sons, I tried to. sell them on like Snoop and Dre being the top of the art and they were like no and they were

like it's so much better I played it for them and they were like it's flat comparatively to what's happening now and they played me Kanye and I immediately got it I was like oh this is a higher level form of art and so I'm willing to accept even in that context people say Kendrick Lamar is one of the best they all say that it's just not necessarily for me because I can't understand what he's saying. Do you think, Bobby, let's talk about the vibe for a moment. So I want to enter two pieces of evidence on the vibe. So first, there's the, you know, you said you weren't entertained.

I actually was in studio, in stadium. It was a really entertaining in stadium experience. I'm not being a company man by saying I think Fox, because I was in Las Vegas last year as well for the Super Bowl. Fox does it really well. Like the Bradley Cooper introduction, the John Han, introduction the in studio videos that they play i mean in stadium videos that they play it keeps it moving there's great energy and that's hard because sometimes the super bowl can go flat in person

because of the long and frequent commercial breaks but it was really well done and you kept thinking there'd be a mohomes comeback at some point but one of the things they do is they flash people up celebrities up on the video board and i know you know this and probably everybody watching does as well because it was on social media this is what happened when and they showed Taylor Swift. All right, so she's booed. She's booed pretty loud. And she gives a side eye.

She seems a little taken aback by it. I want to just enter the secondary piece of evidence for you. This is what happened when they showed Donald Trump during the national anthem. through the perilous fire or the ramparts we watched Huge A round of cheers for Donald Trump

I saw some people on X saying that You know, was it booze or was it? There was not booze. There was not booze. I was there. It was cheers. and the guys and I were having this debate in our pre-show meeting like it was kind of tied into the kind of kind of tied into the kind of kind of thing and whether or not I don't know if it was a rebuke of Trump and the movement of American culture but I got to tell you I think the vibe shift is complete I mean it is complete and we know today Trump's approval ratings are like at historic highs yeah and this reminds me there was a New York Times siena poll in August that said that Trump had a higher approval rating than Taylor Swift and I didn't believe it at the time now I'm wondering

if there's something there this is a couple of things it's not only a vibe shift but it's a rejection of the celebrity class that for so long society idolized I think someone like Taylor Swift is very unpopular because we just have a disdain for the celebrities now I don't think them coming out and supporting Harris during the election and helped her at all. I think in some ways it hurt her. Americans saw, well, if Kamala is for them, then she's not for us. But yeah, I think the vibe shift is pretty obvious. Small sample size, but you go to a city now,

and you just see more Trump hats than I ever had before. I was just in Chicago last month, very liberal city. I was stunned by how many Trump signs I saw, how many Trump hats. people for so long were afraid to show their support for Donald Trump now they're proud of it there's something more to it as well so you and I've known each other a long time we've talked about this stuff

I'm going to reference it as Twitter not X because when it was Twitter five years ago one of the roles that it played was making us believe that radical minority points of view were the majority were the mainstream of American culture and at that time you would have thought that the only people that like or support the policies or the person Donald Trump were absolute Nazis right that's how it was sold and that's how it was parroted by the mainstream media well now I want you to think about today compared to

then like if you again rewind the clock 10 years what did people like culturally what did people talk about not everyone if you're watching but you know real housewives bravo um all this kind of stuff seem to dominate the the mainstream of America culture is totally sidelined. It's just irrelevant. I'm not saying, look, I watch Love is Blind, right? So I'm not doing anything by analyzing to say it's not a part of the main conversation anymore. And the main conversation is there's been a huge vibe shift and all of it has moved the way of Donald Trump. I brought him up in a minute ago.

There was a picture from the suite he was in last night with Shane Gillis and Zach Bryan. They were in the booth shaking hands with Donald Trump. And again, I live in my bubble and I'm a big Zach Bryan fan, and I think Shane Gillis is hilarious, but I don't think I'm alone and that stuff is taking center stage. Zach Bryan is selling out stadiums. Shane Gillis is the new spokesman for Bud Light. It's just so different than it was in 2018-19,

and it's all moved and honestly driven by Donald Trump. Yeah, I wrote a column a year and a half ago. I struggle with the word woke because I think is overused, but what woke has come to mean, I thought it's fascinating because we're led to believe that wokeness had captured American culture in all these major institutions. I don't think it's true. I don't think woke was ever a majority belief. We were just led to believe that America had gone woke because the people who controlled the message, like Twitter, convinced us that. There was, before Elon took over Twitter, I believe there was a study that said if Twitter were a state, it would be the most liberal in the country more so than even California. So when you saw those beliefs and the outrage, you thought you were in the minority because you would be crushed if you supported MAGA or Trump or any conservative belief.

So what we had here was a lot of people self-censoring, where now they're not. not. They're open about their beliefs for Donald Trump. So I don't even know how much more support he has versus people are now just willing to say it and they're no longer afraid. Well, think about Tom Brady. I mean, we crushed him. We, I didn't, but we, the culture, we the mainstream media, you know, ESPN, crushed him from Maga Hat in his locker. And now he's, you know, the biggest voice of the NFL. And there's not. Nothing more, two things. So I'm going to bring in the guys in New York for this.

So, you know, Young Establishment James, he's just texted me about this, but the role of Brady, there's nothing more mainstream than the NFL. Like, the NFL is absolutely the deepest, whitest part of the American culture river. Don't you think? That brings the biggest swath of America, black, white, any race, men win. women left right into one spot, nothing bigger than the NFL. And James, first, you saw that tweet that you wanted to show us of somebody. Let's quiz Bobby on this. Show us that tweet that you were telling me about this morning, James.

Oh, yeah. So John Summit did like the ghost sports, and you always have that one guy at like a Super Bowl party that like wants to like, it's very pick me, like, look at me type energy of like. They hit a home run in that football game? They want to make it clear that everyone knows they don't watch sports and they go the same. Oh, a sports ball. Oh, great home run. And if you just read the comment section on that, it's pretty brutal. I think.

Well, okay, so on that note, Bobby, if you saw that, would you presume that person is on the far right or the far left? Oh, far left. I think it's a 50-50 odds. Yeah, based on how he's dressed far left, But by making that comment, setting aside the picture, but doing the thing of like sports is bread and circuses, and I hate sports and here we go and crushing it, 50-50 proposition. It overlaps. The left and the right, this hating whatever it is that brings us all together and distracts us from our, you know, the important issues that we need to fight for a lot.

About this. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there was a time where you would mention Game of Thrones, and there were people on the right saying, you know, this show is awful, it's woke. And for a while, it felt like the far right just hated everything. So, yeah, there is a very big overlap. But yeah, looking at that picture, I would have said far left. Okay, but the point in that that I'm making is that the NFL is what it is.

We know it's the deepest, widest part of the river of American culture. And seven years ago, and by the way, I think the NFL itself has some work to do on this. Like, do they recognize their place in what that means? But seven years ago, Tom Brady has a MAGA hat in his locker, and he is a controversial figure. Now he is the voice of the NFL. That's what you want to talk about, young James. Young establishment, James. Oh, man.

Maybe not. I don't know. I thought we got rid of that. Yeah, no, I think there's, I mean, Brady was one of Trump's oldest friends, and he puts that hat in the locker, like, the week after the announcement. And I think there was definitely a dynamic where I think he kind of took it back and realized, like, oh, like, if I do this, suddenly I'm 50-50 at best instead of being 95-5, and he did kind of walk it back, but you know quietly it's not like he stopped liking his friends or supporting it,

but there really is that kind of parallel between Brady and Trump, where they both had their first term, their first couple Super Bowls. They have their wilderness years that are like, oh, this is really hard and getting it back there. And they both kind of have this second term, second dynasty, where they're now just kind of cemented into the American everything. And I don't think, Bobby, I don't think the left has, I don't think they've yet learned their lesson. Like, this is a cultural backlash, but it's a pivot and a backlash back to what is actually mainstream. I think they're not done with woke.

like you saying it's one of the worst things that's ever happened to the left i'm not sure they're ready to quit that drug like they're and and they're not only not willing to quit wokeism just yet they haven't dropped the condescending anti-trumpism you can be a skeptic and you can ask him hard questions you can you know you can cross-examine those in power but there's a difference between that and what margaret brennan is doing on cbs where she's condescending to J.D. fans, condescending to Republican senators. Like, they haven't woken up from condescension and wokeism. Yeah, and a good example. I'd also say just the constant outrage machine. The way they're covering Doge, Elon, and Trump is so reminiscent to

20, or 2017, rather, where everything is Nazism and fascism and the end of democracy. That type of language I think is part of wokeism and that hasn't changed at all. I think a story to watch here and Jason Whitlock I think first pointed this out was a friend of mine and he respects you as well. Watch what happens with Kanye West because there is a growing narrative now that Kanye's return to X is proof that free speech is bad and that we need censorship because of racism and anti-Semitism. I don't think Kanye's outbursts over the weekend have anything to do with any of that. I think this is just one guy who's probably a bit

unstable tweeting out a lot of crazy things. But there probably is going to be a weaponization of him to pressure Elon and others to rein back in the free speech movement which I think is so important. Yeah, you're probably

right. I mean, that's the maximum free speech. I hate what you have to say, but I will defend your right to say it. I mean, it's just simply not a defense of Kanye West to defend. the concept of free speech. You're right. This is going to, I imagine it will take center stage on a debate over quote-unquote content moderation,

which is censorship, which is an attack on the cultural embrace of free speech. I don't want to hear about the governmental First Amendment stuff. I think the United States is unique, not just in its governmental rights of free speech, but its cultural embrace of free speech. I want to share a few viewer comments here, Bobby, while we're together. John Sweeney says bring back rock to halftime We the people want Metallica Tinfoil Pat can't jump on while you're with us

Bobby technological limitations He wants rock He won Well just say the name of the band Patrick the one you want to be brought back I didn't say it's the one I want I said it's the one that makes the most sense is Creed

Creed makes the most sense He says he's so online right but it's uh but it but it is hard to come up who's the rock band that could do it the killers but one of you guys said they're two they're two yesterday oh killers would be awesome hey when you're in the when you're in the stadium you know they play music during commercial breaks that's part of what they do i can tell you when the crowd gets up okay the killers they got up everybody started singing sweet caroline everybody is singing it bump bump bum You need, I think, you need to get songs that people are ready to become participatory with.

This was the genius of Queen. Queen was like one of the biggest stadium rock things there ever was because it was a two-way street. The crowd was part of the act with Queen. Where is that today? Like that, that is who you need. That's exactly who you need. Do you think, you think the crowd? yes i look you know i love zach brian and i acknowledge he's selling out stadiums i think if

zach brian were the the halftime show there would be a a significant chunk of of of the audience watching the super be like i don't know who this guy is and i don't know a single song i still think there's a big chunk of people in america that would probably feel that way about zach brian they should learn go ahead well hold on hold on i think everybody's missing the point here the super bowl halftime show it's not for us sports fans, it's for people who don't watch sports. The problem with Rock is there's too much crossover with sports fans now, right? You want, like, a 12-year-old girl to watch the football game halftime, so you bring in, like, Kendall Kamar. I think business-wise, everybody here is missing the point. Yeah, that's a good point. Who's it for? I want to go

back to the comments. Ed DeRuza says the way the Eagles played, you could have had Brady, Montana, or Rogers or any other quarterback and they would have had the same result i actually totally agree with that ed that's why it's not necessarily an indictment on the homes it would have happened to any quarterback uh betty chick on youtube says they were booing trump no betty sorry i was there um i don't know was there some scattered booze was there a pocket here there well i didn't cover the entire stadium at the same time but i promise you this if there was it was an extreme extreme minority. Winston Smith says it was a Trump concert. A little, kind of. And S&J mom says I didn't understand one word of Kendrick Lamar. It was trash. One more air teeth says Kendrick's music

doesn't resonate to 85% real hip-hop listeners, just these new ears. I don't know what that means. Real hip-hop listeners don't like Kendrick, but new people do? It's a newer brand of rap. It's more It's not just kind of like talking about, you know, direct things. It's a little more in-depth. Hmm. Cerebro. You guys agree with that. It doesn't matter who the quarterback was.

Bob, I agree. Eagles would have been any of those. Yeah. Absolutely. By the way, Brady would have played worse because he can't move around the pocket. He would have been sacked nine times. You're 100% right. Hey, here's a couple of observations.

from inside the stadium. I've seen Mahomes twice, I guess twice in person now. He's fast. I don't know how well that translates on TV. Like he's really fast. When you see him scrambling, you're like, oh my gosh. Because he does that little, I'm talking about when he's going east and west, side to side. Because when he's running north and south, I think he kind of, he's not hitting full gas because he's timing, how he's going to run out of bounds or slide.

But when he's run east and west and he has to go full speed, I mean, he is. He is absolutely fast. I have positive reviews for the Superdome and New Orleans in general. It wasn't universal among my crew, but I like it. The rehab on the Superdome, I'm going to tell you something. I thought it was better than Las Vegas. I just thought the food, but I like Louisiana food. I like fried shrimp.

I took my son yesterday to get two things. So my son's 13, and we walked down Bourbon Street. And that was a experience. It's not Mardi Gras yet. So it's just a party. It's not X-rated yet. But I took him to Cafe Dumont to get bignets. And have you guys had bignets around the table?

Yeses or noes? I've been at Demand. It's good. Nope. A little orange juice in bini-a. Covered in powder. Bennees are awesome. Yeah.

I'm a donut guy. Like, I love donuts. Love them. And it's in that vein of like a really awesome. warm powdered sugar donut light and fluffy so good he liked that and then i was like i think we have to do this bud you got to eat a raw oyster and so we went to acme's uh it's famous oyster house since 1910 and he got a t-shirt for eating his first oyster at at acme but um not as big as success as the bignet so i taught him how to do it with this cocktail sauce and

Tabasco and he put the first one in and it didn't go down and I was like you cannot pause you cannot bite it you cannot hold it in your mouth it has to go straight in one motion so he spit the first one out but the second one he muscled down and he's like I'm good no more is that because you don't have a lot of you don't have a lot of oysters in Texas I mean coming from the northeast because of it I mean I think oysters are more no oysters northeastern than Texas but they're big in louisiana and i have a louisiana east texas connection to my family so crawfish and oysters are a thing that some people in my family like to do um so i mean we have a crawfish boil once a year which isn't i know it's not the same thing

oysters is a little bigger rarity do you like do you like oysters you're a Connecticut guys so the answer's got to be yes it's my one of my favorite things they're very good for you i could eat i could put down like 15 of them in a dinner a lot of nutrients and protein Have you ever gotten sick off them? Because I hear that horror story so many times that I'm more like a two or three oysters guy. I do feel like you're tempting fate. You are. I have not, and I think it would ruin it for me, so I really hope that doesn't happen.

That's why you don't do 15, Dan. Bobby, you're from Wisconsin. Have you ever had oysters? No. I'm not from Wisconsin. That's a false rumor, though, by the way, just to clear that. Michigan, Michigan. Michigan.

Michigan. Michigan. That's why I make sure, because I see people write that. Upper Peninsula? Michigan. Upper Peninsula? No, no, lower, lower. Just have the Wisconsin accent.

I knew it was backwards. No oysters in Michigan? No, no. We more are like frozen shrimp and lobster. Frozen shrimp. So back to game day. I know it sounds like I'm a homer and I've probably said this. AT&T, 20 years old, it's a top two stadium in Dallas.

I haven't been to SOFI, but it looks awesome on TV, and I'm going to bet it's number one. And Minnesota's up there, but the things I'm talking about are like big bathrooms, you don't have to wait in line, big corridors, so that when somebody's standing in line for food, they're not blocking it so no one else can walk down the corridor. You know what I'm saying?

When you get those choke points, and just nice. Superdome's good, but, Those stadiums, I don't know why you would build one, like in Las Vegas now, without big bathrooms, without big corridors. That's an absolute necessity. It looks awesome on TV. All right. So I think it was, I think it was, I didn't hate, you guys all have worse reviews for the game, I guess, because it was a blowout. I kept feeling like Mahomes is going to come back at any point.

not till 27 nothing that's when I said it's over I thought after the pick six I thought that was when I was like all right prepossessions this one's over yeah it was really hard to get the wife into this one with that 24 nothing she's like I just feel really bad for the chiefs

I just feel so bad I'm like they'll be okay relax don't worry about it I thought it was a good watch because it was something that we never we've never seen a defense contained them like that before so as a football fan. It was like, wow, this is something to see. It's good football. Yeah, I agree. I thought it was entertaining. I don't think we're on the verge, Philadelphia fans of a dynasty. I don't think that's what we're looking at. Nobody thinks

that, right? Oh, I do. I do. What? Really? Really? Oh, yeah. Well, hold on, hold on. Let's look at this team. Jalen Carter. He's in his second year. Quinion Mitchell. Cooper Gene, rookies, J. Lynn Hurts, still very young, A.J. Brown, Devante Smith, under contract for more years. That left tackle is arguably the best in the NFL. The new center, young. This is a young team that's loaded. Moreover, they have the most aggressive GM, Howie Roseman, in the NFL. Anything they lose, he will just fill going forward. I think they should go in the next season as heavy favorites. Think about this, guys. The Eagles have not lost with

Jalen Hertz since September. This is one of the more impressive teams in the past 10 years. You make a really good point about Howie Roseman. He deserves a ton of credit for the way he built that roster. And he's done it several times now, like different versions of the Eagles. I think there's more parity in the league. I think your lions are legit. I think your lions could be a problem in the NFC.

You don't. I think the commanders are going to be legit. it. I think they're going to be a problem as Jaden Daniels gets better and better. I'm not taking away from the Eagles. I think they're good. But I think there's going to be competition that keeps it. I don't think Jalen Hertz is Patrick Mahomes. So I don't think he's going to be able to always will them over the Josh Allen version of whatever it is in the NFC. So Jaden Daniels or a Lions team that's complete will be able to give the Eagles runs into the future. They're going to be around. And then, of course, the Cowboys too.

Well, I will say... Go ahead, two days. No, I was going to say, do you think the bills could have taken down the Eagles? Do you think they would have had a better shot than the Chiefs? Yes. Yes. Better shot, but I don't think they would have won. Better game, you think it would have been?

Well, they would have had a better shot because they had a much better offensive line, so it would have been closer, but they also have a worse defense. I think you probably, Sequin Barclay would have gone off. They would not be able to shut him down like Spagnola did for most of the game. So same result, different style of game. Okay, before we end today, I want your one act for the Super Bowl. You don't choose Kendrick Lamar. Who is your halftime act?

Young Establishment James, are you going to go with a Trump rally at a halftime? Yeah, I actually, I'm in between Zach. No, no, hold up. Think about that. Hold on Trump rally for the halftime show. Here's what you do Here's what you do First you have a couple

Zach Ryan songs And then you wheel out Trump's desk You get some executive orders On the desk And then Shane Gillis Then Shane Gillis Tell some jokes

And then Shane By the way Oh my God That would be epic Zach Brian does two songs Trump rolls out Signs five executive orders And then Shane Gillis

gives us a five minute set Tell me that doesn't That's an amazing half time The only problem with that is it's a 45-minute halftime. There's no way Trump does his seven-minute bid of that.

There's no way. That would be better than the game. Hear me out. Here's the halftime show. Okay, two days, your halftime show. I think what they have to do, and I agree now with Bobby and Patrick, I think they've got to go back to Rock,

but I think they go old school. I think they do like an ACDC or like Stones again. I don't know, something like that. They have to really go back for. Stones is too. I love the. stones, that's too far back. I know, but I think the, I think the comment, I think the comment John Sweeney's right. What about Metallica? Too neat. People don't really know

Metallica songs as much as you would think. Really? We're still around and together that you could do. I don't know, maybe like, I don't know, but it has to, you have to go back to at least the 90s, 80s, 70s for somebody. All right. Tinfoil, are you going to go ahead and just nominate Creed? Is that what you're going to go with, Creed? No, no, no. I think that Bobby's right, and you need to go with a female pop singer, and it would have been perfect to have Lana Del Rey there because she just married a guy from Louisiana. She's going to make everybody cry. She does a great rendition of Country Roads.

Exactly. And it killed left off the time. Shockingly good. Yes. Okay. All right. All right, Bobby. Your halftime show.

Yes. I'm trying to do business, right? I'm always a numbers guy. I think her name is Sabrina Carpenter, right? Yes. Yeah, I know she's huge. I couldn't name a single song. I know she's not for me, but again, it's not for me, not for us.

It's for, you know, the people like Patrick who quit watching football for much of the year. All right, well, I'm going to go ahead and make this a victory. I'm with Young Establishment, James. I vote right now for Zach Bryan Tucson, seven minutes of E.O's, and then a five-minute Shane Gillis set. That's my halftime. Book it NFL. All right, Bobby. Thank you so much, man.

We're going to be looking for that headline today at Outkick.com. I have a suspicion that it will make its way today to the 4 p.m. Wilcane show on the Fox News Channel. Hey, thanks, Bobby. Hey, real quick. Congratulations. Primetime numbers at 4 p.m. every day for you. Never seen that before. Props to you. Oh, thank you so much, man. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. All right. I hope you guys will all tune in at 4 o'clock. Keep those prime time numbers high for us on the Wilcane show at Fox News Channel.

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