Will Cain Country - Reaction To 'Destiny' Debate, PLUS Barstool's ‘Billy Football’ Takes On The GOP Establishment

Episode Date: April 18, 2024

Story #1: In the end, this trial against former President Donald Trump will be nothing but an absolute circus. Our ‘Lunch Break Panel’ with former Senate Judiciary Comms Advisor and President and CEO of GRV Strategies, Garrett Ventry and attorney and legal analyst, Lexie Rigden. Story #2: Reaction to Will’s debate with YouTuber and streamer ‘Destiny.’ Plus, NPR’s search for the truth. Story #3: Bill Cotter, AKA Barstool’s ‘Billy Football’ joins Will to discuss his uphill battle against the establishment in his underdog congressional run.   Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, as a new panel of jurors is seated, it's impossible as we watch other jurors dismissed to come to a conclusion other than this trial against Donald Trump will be, in the end, nothing but an absolute circus. Two, reaction to our debate with destiny, plus NPR's search for the truth. And three, Bill Carter, also known as Barstall's Billy Football, joins us on his run for Congress. It is the Will Kane show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel. the Fox News Facebook page and always on demand by subscribing at Apple or Spotify for your podcast or if you prefer video to accompany this show. You can subscribe on YouTube and you can go

back and watch, for example, our debate with Destiny, which we're going to break down a little bit later in the show. Destiny has a very devoted fan base. They have Reddits. They are active in the comment section. And I have some thoughts on some of their feedback from our debate that ties into NPR and their new CEO suggesting truth is subjective. Everyone has their own personal truth. When my estimation is the true path to insanity is to all live in separate realities. My job, your job, the job of the media is ultimately to understand reality, to acknowledge truth.

Let's get a little truth going today with our lunch break panel. Let's get that going, though, with story number one. Lexi Rigden is an attorney. She goes by Lexi, the lawyer, on X, and she serves as a legal analyst here for us on the Will Kane show. And Garrett Ventry is a former Senate Judiciary Coms Advisor, and he's the president's CEO of GRV strategy. You can find him on X at Garrett Ventry, and I'm glad to have them both here on the Will Cain show. What's up, Gary? What's up, Lexi? How's it going, well?

Good to be with you. Having the dream. Good. Live in the dream. Let's begin with the nightmare. I think, Lexi, I'd love to start with you, that as I watch a new panel of jurors take their seats in New York, in the case against Donald Trump, I think that there is increasingly, it's just absolutely obvious this is going to end in nothing but a circus. And what I mean by a circus, Lexi, is I think that this is probably ending in a mistrial. Whether or not as a hung jury you have one.

lone strong juror willing to push back against what will probably be a consensus against Donald Trump. But we've already had one juror dismissed because they felt like their public information was too made available. And then their public safety, their safety was compromised, their employment information, which is kind of generic. Most of it is like, this man works in IT, this woman works in law, this guy works in media. But it was apparently enough for Judge Merchant to say, yes, I can see how you have been compromised. And dismiss one juror. I just think at the end of this thing, Lexi, this thing is Donald Trump is the most public figure perhaps in the world, but definitely in America. No one can be impartial

and everyone's going to be a clown in this circus. Before this is all over, it's going to be obvious. This is a circus. It is. And this is like that story where somebody pushes a rock up the hill and then it just rolls back down. I mean, I think we're going to have a lot of fits and starts here in terms of, I mean, gosh, we're at the inception of this. I mean, we're at a jury picking page. This has nothing to do with even like the trial or the questioning or somebody, a witness talking out of turn. And like you said, there probably is a big risk. I mean, depending on what side you're on, of a mistrial in this case. Because mistrial has happened in even ordinary cases. And this is, I mean, are the jurors all going to be able to stay in the case? Are all

12 of them plus the alternate's going to be able to stay. Are they going to be able to have a fully impaneled jury by the end of this? If these are the types of things that keep happening. And I don't necessarily think that that jurors, it sounded like that juror had buyer's remorse. She said, yeah, fine, I can be impartial. And then she went home and people either got to her or she thought, you know what, I don't want to get involved in this. And now she's backing out.

That might be the playbook that some others would employ. But this is going to be a long and ugly road for Trump, both sets of, lawyers and the jurors, too, because their identities will eventually be revealed. That's what I'm saying, Lexi, and I'm sorry, I'm going to follow up really quick with you, Lexi. That's what I'm saying. How are they going to impanel a jury and then hang on to a jury through this trial? By the end of this, I think everyone's going to be crying uncle. They're going to be public.

They're going to deal with something. They're going to deal with the kind of pressure in their neighborhood, in their communities. They're going to deal with pressure from media outlets. They're going to cry uncle. they're all going to want to get off this thing. And I just wouldn't be surprised it before this trial is over. You're looking up and your alternates are gone and two or three other jurors are gone. And you don't have enough.

You don't have 12 and you've got to declare a mistrial. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I think that that is a potential consequence of this. And also, it's not like this is the only case that that's ever happened in where somebody says, you know, I don't think I can be impartial. I'm going to assume that in the Coburger jury, whenever they're impaneled in 2025 maybe, somebody's going to say, you know what, regardless of the presentation, I'm not going to be able to be impartial.

And that is not necessarily as scandalous as it is when it comes to President Trump because the media absolutely blows up everything that he does. They are covering it in sort of detail, the way that he's sitting, the way he's sighing, the way he's looking at things. So, yes, the circus has just begun, really. Gary, one of the things that kind of stuck out to me as they're questioning jurors today, is how many jurors, and I'm not sure which way this points, I think it probably points to the defense of Donald Trump, how many jurors have read The Art of the Deal? Like, I mean, I guess I'm one of the few that haven't,

but everybody's read the art of the deal. Don't tell them that next time you interview them. I would read it before then. But no, no, I mean, that's right. I think it is, and I think if you take a step back, the entire process will out the gate you're right. I mean, it's a clown car here. You're looking at the original case was brought by

and discovered by Michael Avanotti, who's in jail, He's tweeting from jail, apparently. You have Stormy Daniels, who's a porn actress who owes Donald Trump hundreds of thousands of dollars in other jurisdictions. And then your star witness is Michael Cohen, who's a dispart felon, who committed tax fraud. Like, that's what you're dealing with here. And then if you look at Alvin Bragg, you ran an entire political case, right, trying to indict Donald Trump on a zombie case that no one else wanted to bring. And now you have a jury here, you have a jury that can't even, like, it's taking longer than probably usual here. because you have people admitting their bias towards Donald Trump.

And let's not forget, the judge in this case donated to Joe Biden. So this is what you're dealing with here if you're Donald Trump. You're not going to be able to get a fair process here if you're Donald Trump. And so I think people are seeing that on display right now. Well, and I think it's just like it's what you should expect. Like you signed up for the circus. Like this is a political trial. This isn't a legal trial.

By no estimation, Garrett, is this an illegal trial? This doesn't survive appeal. it's shocking that it survived pre-trial dismissal. It's shocking that it's even made it this far because legally it's so weak, it's impossible to say this is pursuit of any true sense of justice. It is a political trial.

And I don't know that you can successfully pull off. Like the whole goal has been, okay, what we need in the end is one thing. Victory is one thing. The ability to utter this statement. Donald Trump convicted felon. Right. But the circus is going to have

bears and clowns and everything else along the way that I don't even know like I'm pessimistic that any New York jury would ever deprive the prosecution and Democrats of that sentence but I'm getting more optimistic that's just the very nature of this thing is hey you chose to have a political trial in a legal setting good luck with how that falls out Garrett yeah no that's absolutely right I mean this the entire thing is political like you said here you're talking about you know upgrading misdemeanor charges to a felony to get Donald Trump I mean that's essentially what's happened here. And you've got the same prosecutor. We're seeing crime in New York for the last couple of years since he's been the DA letting dangerous criminals back

on the street with cashless bail, right, without, you know, with any cashless bail. So I do agree with you. You're going to see this as a political draw. All it takes here is at least a common sense person to say this has gone too far. And hopefully, I think, you know, maybe we'll see that. This would be a major victory for President Trump either way. You're seeing him campaigning. You saw Joe Biden try to replicate it as sheets. And it was like, you know, some random guy off the street walked in. But you saw Donald Trump at a bodega and you saw the, obviously, the support he had there. So there is a plus to it there. But I do think at the end of the day here, if Donald Trump does defeat these charges in New York, it's going to be a major turbo charge for his campaign,

especially going into the other scam indictments from Jack Smith and Fannie Willis. Yeah. I mean, you say all it takes is one person who is willing to be fair, impartial. It's not even about politics at that point, psychology. Lexi, we've had this conversation a lot recently here on this show. What I mean, Garrett, by psychology, I'll put this to you, Lexi, is like, you're not looking for a conservative.

You're not even looking for an objective person. You're not looking for a fair person. You're looking for an aberration in humanity. Like, you are looking for a person who is willing to be disagreeable. I've talked to a lot of friends who are attorneys. It's like the fundamental human instinct is to be agreeable.

We all want to fit in. We're herd animals. And so if you've got 11 people who believe one thing, good luck finding the one person who's comfortable being disagreeable. I don't even care about their politics. Like it's just it's against every one of our instincts, Lexi. I completely agree. The peer pressure in that jury room, if it gets as far as the jury deliberating in this case, at least for this trial. I mean, if there's a mistrial or something, then they could try them again.

But the peer pressure in that room of, come on, you know, we all know we did it. He broke the law. Let's get going. I want to go home. I want to go home to my family. I want to get back on social media. That is going to be a significant thing. And there's going to have to be somebody in there with the intestinal fortitude to stand up and say,

this is not, you know, this is not appropriate. There wasn't actually a law broken here. And this is a Frankenstein indictment that was put together. And I don't want to participate in this. Now, of course, if that were to happen, a hung jury, then the judge would, they would come out and the judge would say, try a little harder to come to an agreement. And that is also, right, that's an issue because then they go back and they're like, okay, you know, fine, uncle, fine, guilty. You know, so that's, yeah, you're

absolutely right about human nature. And one of the things that strikes me so much about this trial is that in New Jersey, where I practice, if you're out on your own recognizance and you're not subject to any conditions, these can drag on for years before you actually see your trial date. And the fact that they indicted him last March, and now he's sitting in a trial 13 months later, that cannot be the norm in New York City. It's not the norm here. And this is obviously, as you said, this is so that they can say he's a convicted felon. And who knows if they even care what happens on appeal?

They just need him to be a convicted felon until November. And then, you know, if it gets overturned on appeal, it gets overturned. At that point, you know, he's either won or lost. Right, because it's a political trial. You make such a good point that Jonathan Turley made on this show on Monday, which is like, okay, so you've got to fight the human instinct not to just fit in. You've got to be willing, strong enough to be disagreeable. A.

B, you've got to fight that peer pressure within that room when everyone's saying, hey, I need to get home. My son's got to travel baseball game. Quit hanging, quit making this a hung jury. C, you've got to withstand the peer pressure. of your community. I don't know if they'll be sequestered, but you got to go home, and like you pointed out, that probably already happened to one juror who cried uncle and asked off. So you're going to have to go home to your community and not give in to the peer pressure. But then the biggest one comes. Then the hammer comes. That's D, as you point out. It's the

judge. So you're strong enough to withstand all of that. And you hang a jury. And then the judge is mad because he wants to have a conclusion. And he goes, no, go back and work it again. You have to come to a conclusion, which is basically all pointed at one juror, if it's one or maybe two. And the other 10 or 11, look at that person, go, the judge is telling you, fit in. I mean, it's just like, it's an impossibility. I mean, it's, all you have to do is establish reasonable doubt. Okay, I get that in legal terms. But in psychological terms, it's just, it's a huge, huge societal human outlier. Bill Belichick is a human outlier. He's the greatest coach of all time. But he revealed on the Pat McAfee show, never once in his life has he had a cup

of coffee. Now, I mean, I don't know what coffee consumption is in the United States, but it's got to be... What does you think coffee penetration is? Is it 8? 95? 95. A, what does that say to you about Bill Belichick? B, what have you never done that everyone else does? Wow, that's a good one. So A, what is it? What is that? to say about Bill's De Belichick. I'm a Bill's fan, so I was terrorized by him for two decades, so I've got a very hard feeling towards Bill Belichick. But it's very interesting he doesn't drink coffee. I mean, I guess that is not being dependent on caffeine. I guess the way I am in the morning. Maybe that does actually help him be, I saw in the article. He's like, I drink

orange juice and maybe tea. So it's not that surprising. He's got like a roboticness about him, right? So I guess there, what is one thing I haven't done that other people have done? Wow. That is a good question. I'll have to come back to that one. I don't think I can answer that question off the top of my head. What if yours will? There's funny Garrett won't do, apparently. Don't tell that to Alvin Bragg.

It's like me and Garrett. I have never voted for a Democrat. How about that? Okay. Yeah, I mean, I make the joke, like, I'm good to try most things. So never is carrying all the weight in this question. like but i don't what's because my coffee consumption's going down yeah yeah right hurt animal um my coffee consumption's going down i'm liking it i'm definitely peaked on coffee and i'm on the

downhill slope i'm i'm enjoying it less now i think it's directly tied to the increase in my nicotine intake so uh instead of having two or three cups of coffee it's a coffee and is in and i'm set for the for the morning but um yeah i i i don't i'm not as in love with coffee as i once was So, you know, bullied for Bill Belichick. I've never watched the wonderful Wizard of Oz or whatever. There you go. I'm trying to think of that. A lot of people watch that, I suppose.

So there you go. Have you seen, wait, you're young, but have you seen The Godfather? Oh, absolutely. I've never seen it. Okay, there you go. Isn't that crazy? I've never seen it. And I'm from Jersey.

I should see it. You know, it's the whole, the mob stuff, but nope. You should watch it tonight and report back. I should. Tomorrow I'll be back on the show. reporting my review you know the godfather's one of those movies that supposedly you could ask any man and he's seen it but i actually think it's getting old and i'm not sure that's the case anymore like you know i don't think if you run into a 27 30 year old dude that they've all

it's probably been replaced like i think ask most dudes about 30 years old have you seen the big lobowski you got you got a decent chance that they've seen the big lobowski maybe you can keep coming maybe super bad and trust me folks i'm not putting super bad on the the same level as the godfather but i just think you know it's it's getting back there it's like saying have you seen gone with the wind almost you know i think young people more and more the answer is it is a great classic movie though i'm 100% to sell in so you got to watch it you have to watch it you guys are talking about two different movies for sure absolutely i'm talking about godfather i'm talking about godfather i'm talking about godfather i'm talking about

going to win and lexie you're talking about going with the wind there you go let's move to uh google um 28 employees of google have been fired for for staging a sit-in at google this was targeted the a i department who's made a contract apparently with the israeli forces to target um combatants is the in in gaza um these 28 employees apparently invaded the personal office of google cloud ceo thomas curian they wrote a list of demand on his whiteboard. They disrupted the workplace. It was under the banner of no tech for apartheid, and Tuesday was their day of action. Apparently, there's a $1.2 billion cloud and AI contract with Israel, between Israel and Google. You know, one of the things about this,

Lexi, that my takeaway, what I think about when I see this story is that people have a real hard time understanding free speech, both as a guarantor by the First Amendment in the United States Constitution, but even culturally. Like, I just think, I think it started with Colin Kaepernick, like, at least this conversation a little bit, maybe because I was in sports. But I think there was a lot of people who were saying, you know, free speech, well, he was wearing a San Francisco 49ers uniform and doing it in the course of business. And that is not a place where your First Amendment rights are protected.

Now, if Colin Kaepernick wanted to march in the streets against, you know, police injustice of San Francisco, that's different. And so, like, last week, by the way, Woody Johnson, owner of the New York Jets, threw his weight behind Donald Trump. And I'll be like, oh, you can do that, but Kaepernick can't protest police violence. Yes, he can't. He just can't do it on the job. And, like, these Google employees learned a very hard lesson.

You can do that in the streets. You can't do it in your boss's office. This is a classic example of F around and find out. You know, they decided to get crazy. They decided to, I wrote it down. actually. It was defaced property in the office, disrupted the business goings on, intimidated other employees. And instead of just doing that and saying, yeah, we know we're getting fired, but this was more important. This is the hill we wanted to die on. Their spokesperson

came out and basically said that they were indiscriminately fired. You know, how dare Google protect their business and their other employees and their reput—I mean, it's like what kind of millennial Gen Z take on this? It's, you know, if we one thing, I mean, I find the whole thing distasteful, but it'd be more palatable if they went into it saying, this is so important to us that we're willing to risk our jobs and we understand what's going to be coming down the pipe. But don't do it. Don't be all tough. And then complain about it because you lost your fancy Google job. I mean, it's honestly madness that anybody thinks that they were going to be able to get away with this. I don't know what reason. Yeah. I mean, you know, to make it fair. You know, Gary, I've always said, like, look, if a Walmart checkout clerk wore a Make America Great Again hat to work the counter, the bosses are perfectly fine saying, hey, not on the job. Right.

No, that's right. I mean, you're making half the customers feel uncomfortable. People are going to Walmart to literally, you know, buy goods or groceries or things they need. They're not going there to make a political statement. They see enough on TV and in their daily lives, right? They don't want that. And so I do think it's interesting. There's kind of a breaking point here, which is interesting because a couple of years ago, companies might actually have allowed this. When you think about, you know, everything we saw from

the Me Too movement to Black Lives Matter to the COVID lockdowns, there was a point where people were kind of allowing this insane type behavior. And so it's good to see that there's actually a breaking point that a liberal company in Silicon Valley, like Google, I know what happened here in New York City, which also a very liberal city, was able to say, you can't just cause absolute chaos in the workplace and be rewarded for it. You get fired. And so I think Lexi's right. It's kind of like an f-round and you know you find out moment here you can't act that way and so it's good that companies are doing that i disagree with google on a lot of different things but it's good that they're standing in the ground that you can't have workplace behavior like that it's absolutely

ridiculous you know there's one more thing on this free speech because i mentioned the difference between your first amendment guarantees and also sort of which i think is a quintessentially american the cultural embrace of free speech and there's a lot of confusion i feel like and it's happening by the way on the right as well where It's like, just because you have a right to free speech doesn't mean you have a right to get paid for your free speech. Like, if you're a public sphere, public space, yeah, you have First Amendment rights, okay? I think culturally now, if you're a public platform, like X or Facebook, then, and what I mean by platform is you're not a publisher, you're a platform. You should not be censoring views.

You should embrace almost an absolutist position of free speech in the pursuit of the cultural. American embrace of free speech. But it doesn't extend to a publisher. Like a publisher can have an editorial point of view and say, hey, this does or doesn't align. And I think a lot of people are going, well, I thought you, you know, your free speech. Yeah. And by the way, for me, if I were a publisher, my personal editorial point of view would be, I want people who disagree with me.

I had a guy on earlier this week named Destiny who I disagree with on a lot of things. And I want that because I think it enhances my editorial point of view. But others don't believe that. And I don't think that makes them obligated under. the banner of, I believe in free speech, to pay people for speech that doesn't fit, I guess, what they believe to be their editorial vision. Yeah, I agree. I mean, as a publisher, right, that's different than obviously a platform or free speech or especially

when you're talking about a lot of times. These are, you know, privately owned or privately run platforms, right? Or excuse me, publishers are different than a platform, obviously. So, no, I do, I generally track that. But I do agree with you that there is something about disagreement being a good thing. You see this on editorial boards. You see this on panels, on shows. It's good to give bold views.

It's good for debate and it's good, honestly, to reform your own opinion or, you know, for viewers to hear another opinion. Yeah, Lexi. What you're talking about reminds me of the whole Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro thing, where, you know, she left the Daily Wire, whether of her own accord or not, we don't know the details. But he went on and said, hey, we're a publisher. We're not a platform. So even though, yes, we do believe in free speech as a concept. and they're not a public entity, so it's, you know, free speech is more of a concept as opposed to a legal construct. But they said, we don't have to actually publish and put out things that we don't agree with.

That's not what we're here for. We are not a platform for people to just use it to get their message out. And I agree with you on the fact that people misunderstand. I'm not sure that that's a word, but I'm going to use it, misunderstand the concept of free speech. And it goes back to a conversation you and I had weeks ago about, people not understanding how the influx of illegal immigrants could actually change the allocation of votes in the electoral math. And because people have a basic misunderstanding of civics. And that kind of goes back to this also where you have a private employer and somebody is saying,

hey, that's against free speech. All right. Well, you don't get free speech at Google. You have to abide by the workplace handbook. That's what you have to do. You have to be an employee and abide by your requirements as an employee. You can't just say whatever you want. That's not how that works.

But a lot of people do not understand the nuance. And frankly, it's not even all that nuanced, but people just don't understand it. So Lexi's referencing a conversation we had a few weeks ago where illegal immigration, whether or not illegal immigrants get the right to vote by affecting the census. They affect the representation in Congress and they can affect the electoral college as well and then affect the way the country votes by merely their presence. You can go back and find a previous episode of that conversation by subscribing at the Will Kane Show on YouTube. All right, Lexi, the lawyer on X, a legal analyst and attorney in New Jersey. And Garrett Ventry, former Senate Judiciary Coms advisor, he's on X at Garrett Ventry. I really appreciate you guys hanging out today on the Will Kane show.

Thanks, Will. For having us. All right. All right, it was mentioned there. Earlier this week, we had a conversation to debate with popular YouTuber kick streamer, formerly Twitch streamer, Destiny, Stephen Bonneau, got a lot of feedback, got a lot of interaction from the audience. And it made me think about, let's go through that interaction. Let's talk about that reaction to that debate, because it made me think about the new editorial mission

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Listen and follow now at foxnewspodcast.com or wherever you download podcasts. NPR's search. for the truth. Perhaps it can be informed by the conversation we had right here with destiny on the Will Cain Show. It is the Will Cain Show streaming live at foxnews.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page, Monday through Thursdays, live 12 o'clock Eastern Time. And then always available on demand by subscribing on YouTube, Apple, or Spotify. I got to give Stephen Benel, I got to give Destiny credit not only for interacting with people whom he holds deep disagreement, but also for curating and developing an audience that I have to say I find

engaging, interesting, honest, wrong, and funny. I've got a lot of reaction in our YouTube comments from the audience for Destiny, and he has a very active Reddit as well of fans of destiny. Now, Destiny is a streamer, very popular on the left, who has had many viral debates with people like Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro and Candice Owens. And as the vision for this show becomes increasingly clear, I am someone who is very interested in having conversations and debates. It's obviously part of my past. My career is part of my personality is evidenced by being on places like first take or CNN. And I want that to be part of the ethos of the Will Kane show.

So I wanted to read through some of the feedback that we received on the comments right here on this YouTube stream of the Will Kane show or on Reddit. And I wanted to share with you some of the feedback we got. So first, this here is posted by a man named Snow Eagle 213. He said, I got to give credit to this Will Kane guy. He asked smart questions and gave smart replies and was genuinely curious to hear Destiny's responses. I've never heard of this guy, but I'm surprised such a thoughtful person like this works at Fox News. And obviously he's a bit ignorant on some things, but I don't get bad faith vibes.

He seems genuine. Let's hold it there for just one second. I appreciate that. I'm not coming at this in bad faith, and I am genuine. And then it gets to my favorite part of that reply. We can put that same one up. If you look below, somebody named Skaggy says, agreed. My favorite thing was that Kane gave Destiny huge.

huge amounts of space in the conversation. I'm not sure he ever interrupted Destiny at all. And I think Destiny returned the favor as well. But I wouldn't call Kane ignorant and I wouldn't confuse genuine for being benign. On the right-wing populism topic, Destiny laid out a bunch of different ways Trump is threatening democracy. Kane's response was, yes, I like this change, especially focusing on the middle class. Kane doesn't refute all the dangerous stuff the Republican Party is up to. He endorses it and then reframes it.

to more palatable aspects of the right. It was a good conversation, and I'd like to listen to another one. Cain is genuine, but we shouldn't forget the substance of what he is genuine about. He genuinely supports Trump and his efforts to destroy U.S. democracy. He believes all of Trump's criminal charges are a meritless witch hunt by the Deep State and Biden's DOJ. Kane is nice, polite, smart, and also a radical right winger with ludicrous views. I love this. I love this. Despite whatever you might see, be careful of the wolf and sheep's clothing.

I am, despite what you may hear, filtering through the prism of politeness, still crazy. Could be willing to entertain the idea, always in pursuit of self-awareness, but those tables can be turned. It could also be that I'm correct, and then maybe you are indulging in some lunacy. This was a mystery to me. Commenter on their Reddit page said, he is mewing during all pauses, gigachad.

And then they all went on about this mewing thing. Somebody else said, what I'm thinking. What is mewing? This is the only place I've ever heard this term. What meme is this? And then another person says, it's people pretending that pushing your tongue on your palate all the time instead of letting it rest and

flexing your jaw muscles can change the morphology of your jaw and face to look manly. It's mostly in-cell science, unproven. But then there was a debate, like, who's mewing? Is it me or is it destiny? Somebody said he's mewing with his chest hair out, bold move. That would be me. Another said, that's actually just his goatee. Then that would be destiny. So let me just go back to the control room for just a minute. Young establishment, James, maybe is more versed in internet culture or two at A's, Dan. What is mewing? Do I mew?

You know, I'm going to defer to the younger James on this one, because I just learned what it was, too. What is mewing? Are you mewing now? Do you mute all during the show? No. Is that what you do? There's— What is mewing, James? There's an obsession a lot on Twitter about kind of perfecting your jawline to make yourself more palatable to females. But there's better ways to do it than, like, playing with your tongue.

And we got Billy over here, too. He's laughing at us over here talking about me. Hold on. I can see Billy football in the background. First of all, James, clear your throat. Second, James, you hint there are better ways to perfect your jaw line. What would those be? Because I'm like to tell you something. Surgery.

I might be mewing. I might be mewing without even knowing what mewing was. I might be kind of giving myself that alpha jawline. Our good friend Andrew Huberman has these little blue things that you could chew on. That works a little better. I've seen those. You could eat less cookies and lose weight. That's probably the best way to do it.

Got it. Genetics sometimes. Own the jaws are size. Own the jaws or size. I own it. Bought it off Instagram. Then I read it gives you lock jaw. So I had to back off. Billy football over there in the background.

Were you familiar? I mean, we're going to run for Congress. And I don't know if this is, you just tell him, Billy Football is about to join us. He's from Barstall. He's running for Congress. Billy, I mean, you're going to deal with a lot of important issues of the day, but were you familiar with mewing? So it's actually not even of my generation. I'm 25 years old. It's actually more of like college kids now, high school kids. It's like a TikTok thing. So it's something even new to me, but it has something to do with just like even like doing the pose with like, it's weird. It's even weird for my generation.

I assume like, you know, the actor Timothy Shalamee, like I assume he like muse all the time. His jawline is just insane. Or Henry Cavill or something like that. It's crazy. All right. We'll bring Billy Football back of more important issues here in just a moment. But here's another comment.

I want to throw up. Will Kane is altering his accent to cater to the idiot right. It's so effing hilarious to me. And someone says he's from Texas. Calm down, Chief. And then someone links to one of my debates with Stephen A. Smith on first take and says,

listen to his accent there. Then watch the video of Destiny's debate with him. It has been four years. Your accent doesn't revert or adapt to that fast boss. And then the other rebuttal is, you never heard accents pop in and out. You know what? Destiny read it? Once again, I'm going to plead guilty, although it's not a affectation.

In that time frame, when you saw me destroying Stephen A. Smith, I have now moved back to my home state of Texas. And I think I've learned this about myself. My accent is malleable. But this is the real me. That other New York version of me. That was two 15 years long in the making. This is back to authenticity.

Speaking of first take, I had a fascinating conversation with a buddy of mine this morning about, you know, truth and how you communicate with people. And I was telling me, you know, when I was on first take, and a lot of the comments from Destiny's folks are like, wow, when he was on first take, he was so divisive and he's so different in this conversation with Destiny. Well, first take is divisive. It's a debate. It's like going into courtroom and saying the lawyer cross-examining a witness as being too pugilistic. It's like, come on. The show starts with, I believe the light was green. And someone responding, I believe the light was red.

And by the way, it's not manufactured. It's too differently, truly held beliefs. But that's the format of the show. And the conversation with Destiny was more like, I want to understand how you think. I'm going to share with you where I think you're wrong. I'm going to tell you how I think. But here's what I really think. Either way, first take or a more cordial searching conversation.

this is how you arrive at the truth and whether or not I think the light was green or you think the light was red the light was either green or red there is objective truth and that needs to be explained to the new CEO of NPR. Watch But the hard things,

the places where we are prone to disagreement say politics and religion well as it turns out not only does Wikipedia's model work there it actually works really well because in our normal lives these contentious conversations tend to erupt or a disagreement about what the truth actually is.

But the people who write these articles, they're not focused on the truth. They're focused on something else, which is the best of what we can know right now. And after seven years of working with these brilliant folks, I've come to believe that they are onto something, that perhaps, for our most tricky disagreements, Seeking the truth and seeking to convince others of the truth might not be the right place to start.

In fact, our reverence for the truth might be a distraction that's getting in the way of finding common ground and getting things done. All right, that was courtesy of TED Talks. And I don't want to make an ad homin attack, but I do feel like I'm ready to go sit on the center square or square in the preschool and make sure I've stacked my blocks right. was a little bit pedantic, a little condescending there. But, hey, it's a TED talk. So here's the thing. She's not all wrong. So there are people, we all do walk around with different truths, but they're not the truth.

Your perception and my perception inform what we believe to be the truth. And even though they used to joke on first take that I would say I have a monopoly on the truth, I understand that none of us have a monopoly on the truth. But objective truth has to be our North Star. It exists. And that's what we are working to understand and move toward it. And why? Because if you don't understand reality, you can't change reality.

You can't live successfully within reality. This stuff about my truth, your truth, it's all bullshit. That's not real. Even though you can live through the world of subjectivity and perception. but the point is we understand not only our perception but others and this is why I want to have conversations with guys like destiny because here's how it works destiny and I are sitting in a diner dude walks in with a 45 and robs the diner right I see something he sees something it's panic it's adrenaline and we're probably going to come away with different recollections of

the events I think mine's true he thinks his is true but whatever we each think is true really doesn't impact the real truth. There is a truth. Something happened. The light was red or green. He did walk in and then raise his gun. Or he had his gun raised when he walked into the diner. But the point is, the way we get to an understanding of actual truth is by recognizing the

humility in our own perception, interacting with other perceptions, not giving in, not false kumbaya, not what aboutism, but using it to enforce. a closer understanding of objective truth. So that's what I want to do with a guy like destiny. And I would submit that's what NPR should do, which would mean, by the way, entertaining beliefs of people like me, or Billy Football, or anybody right of Bernie Sanders. Because right now that's who you are in PR.

You're locked in one perception informed by a left wing of ideology who honestly would look at Barack Obama in 2010 and say, wow, he's alt-right. So maybe for you to understand actual truth, you might need to entertain some other perceptions that help inform your perception, pushing you closer to actual reality in the world. Finally, this is the final comment here from Destiny's Reddit. D.T. Might says, that was surprisingly one of the best discussions I've seen in a while. I certainly was not expecting Destiny to bring up parchment guarantees.

It's referencing Justice Scalia. and have Cain not only be familiar and engaged with it, but actually fairly actually described the meaning and context around it. By the way, they then linked to the Scalia testimony, which I would encourage. It's awesome. Scalia describing what makes America exceptional, why we are free. It's amazing. And Destiny happened to pick one thing that I was a big fan of, a moment,

and a man that I'm a big fan of in Scalia. Real quick, there was a response, I agree. I want to see more talks with this dude for having such an apparently crazy worldview. there we go again he was surprisingly engaging in good faith and clearly intelligent thank you i want to do it too with destiny and then finally look at the bottom i was going to bring this up guys uh two a days uh establishment james did you guys notice when destiny first came in i said welcome and he says um i'm here to work my way up and then stops himself and there was a debate in this whole forum like what was the politeness that interrupted him finishing that sentence do you think he was about to say i'm

I'm working my way up to someone bigger than you, Will Kane. I'm working my way up to Hannity. Was it an almost insult of me? What happened right there? Yeah, or some kind of insult or joke, like your mama joke or something, too. Some people were saying, it might have been. I'm working up to your mom's house. Yeah, exactly.

I saw that so many times on Reddit, so it was really funny, though. Well, here's what I'd say. Bravo, Destiny fans. I think you're funny. I think you're wrong. but I also think you also show a great amount of good faith and interest in working towards the truth. May you all be future employees of NPR. All right, coming up, this is real.

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but now we run the risk of the most rabid fan base on the Internet. We run the risk of provoking the Stoolies who have arrived here on the Will Cane show. Because of the presence now of Bill Carter. Billy Football. What's up? How are you? Thanks for having. I don't know. Is it Mr. Cotter now? I don't even know what to do here. Billy football. Mr. Cotter. What do we do, Billy? All right. Hey, did you go by Will back in college and now you're Bill?

So throughout my life, I've been William to my parents, Will to my friends, Bill to other people, Billy to a lot of people. So, you know, whatever floats. You're a Will, so you understand. When did you go from William to Will? That's why I asked. It's a big move. Yeah. never was William In fact, the name is Williams It's my mom's maiden name But I just went by my middle name Since I was a kid

But I mean I've never Like the changing your own name Like you know Like I have a son A Charlie At some point does Charlie grow up And be like

I gotta be an adult So now I'm Charles I don't know But I think it's a bold move For somebody go Will state in college Now I'm Bill Well it's actually

Billy in college really so you know got to cut the funny business it's bill now but uh how we doing drop the why i'm glad to have you on man so let's start with this um i know who you are um fan of what you guys do but let's start with this at the risk of provoking you in the audience so let's establish this is real man right yeah this isn't for the content this is real you're running for congress we're in deep right now we're getting served with papers by opponents. We're in the weeds. We got the signatures. We have to go to

Albany for a hearing. It's getting, it's heating up. I mean, this is way too much trouble to just be doing it for content. We're going for Washington, D.C. We're in too deep, so we're going in. All right, and I want to get

into the why and how, but let's get into the what you're talking about already, man. I mean, like you said, it's getting dramatic. So first, you got the signatures. That seems clear. You 1250 signatures. You got more than that. 2,400.

But it seems like the first fight, Bill, is that your challenger, your main challenger, and maybe the Nassau County Republican Party are challenging the signatures. Is that the first fight here? Not just you, by the way, all the other

four candidates behind the, quote-unquote, established leader? Yeah, exactly. So basically, we cleared all federal standards, all state standards, sent the signature up to Albany, we're good. And then in the final hour, probably, they could have submitted it. They submitted a challenge to get every single candidate off the ballot, except their guy,

who I don't even want to mention because he's getting way too much press from this. And now I've just gotten a follow-up suit in the courts, not just a challenge of the ballot, but in, I guess, civil court, right, from the actual candidate directly at me that was served. It's never been served before. It's a fun experience, kind of, but it's nothing like Pineapple Express. And so now we're going to be dealing with two court cases. It's a two-front war now. So, you know what?

Honestly, this has become, I had my reasons to get into this, but now I'm just getting more and more reasons. Because as an outsider to politics, as a lot of people know, this isn't democracy. This is something different. This is nothing that our founding fathers intended it to be. And we're going to take this fight and we're going to run with it because, you know, I want to usher in a new era of transparent politics. And I've been very transparent about my campaign, every level, you know. And the new generation deserves that transparency, that old politicians,

and as we've seen, operate in the darkness. I operate in the light. I'm not, you know, suing people to try to get them off the ballot. But, you know, I may be using all the means I have to try to, you know, make this individual's life, you know, hell for doing that. But it's insane. What does that mean? Well, you know, he's getting a little hard time on Twitter. But basically, New York State.

You have been marshaled? They were not, I did not, they just saw the situation and reacted accordingly. New York State has the least amount of protested primaries in the country. So compared to New Jersey, which has 85% of all primaries, there are multiple candidates running democracy, people vote for them. New York state only has 35%. And this is relative to other states like Illinois that have 69%. California also has 69%. So New York, out of all the states in the union, has one of the lowest amount of contested primaries, where individuals are selected by local organizations as opposed to voted in by registered people.

of that party in that district, which that's a problem. All right. It is a problem. I don't want the whole stump speech in one answer now. I got a lot I want to ask you about here. And by the way, you know, by the way, you're tempted to go, I'm listening, and I've listened to a lot of politicians. You're not just taking your talking points. At first I thought you're going to say you've been provoked in the real Dave Portnoy-Mintored style.

Now you've made me mad. Before I wanted to fix America, but now you made me mad. But no, you pivoted to transparency. and the founding fathers, and I was like, wow, okay, you know, better take Billy football seriously here. This is not talking points. This is stuff. Last guy you didn't got knocked out.

Because we can't brush. That's another story. What's that? Last guy who didn't take me seriously got knocked out. You're talking about Ken Seiko. I watched it. By the way, you're using $20,000 of that $50,000 in earnings to fund the campaign, right? You knocked out.

For anybody that doesn't, though. Billy knocked out at Rough and Rowdy, Jose Canseco, quick, real quick, and one 50K. Yeah, crazy. Now I'm in another crazy scenario, so they're connected in one way. So, yeah, I put up 20K of my own money to start this campaign, and we received tons of donations to the cause, and we use that limited amount of money to get on the ballot. We ran an extremely resourceful grassroots campaign, and unfortunately, I'm now seeing why you need to raise a lot more money because you might get on a two-front war with two court cases and having to campaign.

So I want to talk about both those two wars real quick. So let's go with the first one, the one that happened first. What are they saying that your signatures are bogus? They're not real signatures? What's their allegation here? There's several allegations. Basically, they've disqualified 15th under their... lawsuit they've disqualified 1500 of the 2400 signatures basically saying only 700ish

are valid because of various issues they're saying that some people are not registered some people put illegible signatures illegible names eligible addresses basically completely arbitrary striking off signatures from the ballot which we're going to now go through and be like that's uh you know that's a nine that's not a p just totally arbitrary stuff that's they've been throwing. And this has been their playbook for years. And I'm probably one of the first people to bring light to how ridiculous of a process this is. And even though it's legal, it's not right and it's not democracy. And it's a unique situation in New York State. And you said, it's not just you, by the way, it's all the challenges to the frontrunner had their signatures

challenged. And his signatures have not. However, whatever he did to get out of the ballot, I assume it involved at least some signatures. Yeah. Never got challenged. We don't know. He might not even have any signatures. But he wasn't challenged and no one sent a lawsuit against him. So he did it the last second before the deadline. And if that's how he wants to win the race, I don't see how you can set yourself up for the general election and think that no one's going to call you out on those actions. And, you know, you were anointed. You were selected, not elected. So it's an interesting situation that is impacting not just this race and not. just New York State, but it's probably happening all across the country. And I think it's a microcosm of much larger issues that we need to deal with in politics, especially in this day and age. Yeah. Okay, so tell me about the second front of the war, because you said it just happened. You just got served. First of all, I want to hear what it's like. You said it's not like Pineapple Express. And then, but I saw you posted it on Twitter, too. And, but you haven't said

what that's about. What did you get served for? To then challenge my signatures and challenge me off the ballot in not just in Albany and not just for a federal hearing but for a I don't I think it's technically civil court um so basically doubling the lawyer fees doubling the resources needed to try to ensure we stay on the ballot and we're still currently on the ballot so um we're not budging we're going to stick our heels in and you know fight this because it's honestly completely ridiculous and going to this might turn out to be a supreme court case So I can't believe I'm saying that, that I'm in the middle of this, but, hey, you know, we might get a cotterverse board of elections going, so who knows? So real quick, I mean, I'm being serious.

I am taking you serious. You know, that's kind of, to your point, can you get this done? Can you survive the signature challenge? Do you have the money to do it, to pay the attorneys in time to remain on the ballot? So we're working with some guys who are pro bono. Hopefully, you know, if you go to Bill Codder for Congress.com, if you want to donate to the cause, because a lot of people are waking up to the exact, you know, the swamp's not just in D.C. There's many swamps around America and they're all kind of connected in some sort of way. And I'm saying that now, it's sort of like, you know, seeing it firsthand, I'm like, oh my God, like when people are talking about this, when people are talking about how kind of corrupt.

this is. I always thought it was more of a straw man argument to justify to be like the underdog, but it is something that is a huge issue in our country and something that we really need to start. If we usher in this new transparent age, more young people get involved in politics, use communications, use social media like young people do. It's going to allow a lot of this stuff that goes on in the dark to come to the light. And I think, you know, for the betterment our nation and for the continuance of democracy, it's something that we, that's essential that we do. And you didn't say what it was like to be served?

So to be served is, you know, some guy shows up with a FedEx box and says, oh, I'm FedEx. And I'm like, you're not FedEx. You're rolling up in a pickup truck unmarked and you don't have a FedEx outfit on. And then he keeps ringing your doorbell. I'm FedEx. I'm like, you're not FedEx. Like, what are you doing? And I'm ringing my head.

I mean, you know, you just had a streamer on. There's a, you know, my address, you can find if you really try hard, you can find it. So I'm skeptical, like, what's going on right now? You know, Long Island politics has some history with criminal activities. So I'm like, is something weird going on right now? And this guy just keeps ringing my doorbells. So I run out there. And I'm just like, okay, we're going to confront this head on.

The guy's like, are you Bill Cotter? Are you Bill Cotter? I'm like, why do you need to know? And he goes, are you Bill Cotter? And I just see this black sharpie written Bill Cotter on a FedEx box. And I'm like, that's not how FedEx delivers packages. They don't just write your name and nothing else on a package. So I'm skeptical.

I'm like, am I about to be delivered a bomb right now? Like what's going on? So then I literally, in me and the guy who was serving me laughed about this after, I just grabbed the box, open it right in front of him, realize it's a bunch of papers because it was pretty heavy. It was a 400 stack. It was a 400-page stack of papers. I have a picture of it.

And when I grab the box, I'm like, oh, this is heavy. This could be something dangerous. So I rip it open. It's a bunch of papers. I'm like, oh, man, I'm so sorry. I'll take these. I just had no idea it was coming. I had no idea that this guy, and he was like, it felt heavy.

I just wanted to make sure there was nothing dangerous in there because you're just handed me a FedEx guy. You're handing me a FedEx box with very dangerous looking like, you know, it's conspicuous looking so I was just like you know then he laughed I laughed I took him in I read that I was being like

my actual opponent the one who's trying to sue everyone off the ballot this time he wrote his name on the challenge he actually before it was just kind of like oh two random dudes are challenging two concerned citizens who use the same notary the same law firm and have the exact same challenges

are challenging you off the ballot this time he put his name on it so at least he has the you know the the Cajonese to put his own name on it. So that I understand, so I understand your thought process. So, by the way, we'll get into this in just a moment. Big defender of the Second Amendment. This is a big Second Amendment potential situation.

Like, you know, you don't know what's going on here. You know who's at your door, right? But I don't, I'm assuming you weren't armed. So your thought process was, though, could be a criminal. So what I'm going to do is rip it open real quick. And if it's a bomb, I go, you go? No, I'm taking us both down. I throw it at you.

Was it a suicide opening? No, it was just I throw it as fast as I can and then turn around. And then you and the processor laughed and had beers about it afterwards? That's incredible. Yeah. I mean, my life has had some pretty weird happenstance stuff happen in it. Just like, you know, sometimes I feel like I'm living the plot of Forrest Gump. But yeah, so who knows?

You can expect anything every turn. all right so um i asked you at the beginning and i think it's a legitimate question because i know who you are and i know what you guys do and i asked you it's not for content it's real and you said it's absolutely real and i appreciate you said the last guy that didn't take me seriously got knocked out uh jose canseco but i am curious then with it being real bill like we'll get into what you believe in a minute but i'm really curious about when when you decided to do this and why? Like in the beginning, was it content?

Or was there some moment you were like, no, no, no. From the beginning, this was real and here's why. I mean, honestly, I've always had a passion for public service. My grandfather was NYPD. I've had a couple, you know, way back down the line, ancestors who were in Congress, who were naval admirals and stuff like that. So service, and, you know, I've had probably a relative that served in every single. war in United States history. So public service always been the forefront of my mind. I kind of saw

that I had the possibility to both run for Congress and keep my job. That's a big hurdle for a lot of people who try to run for public office. I sort of, the first spark of it was when you, you know, when you turned 18, you're like, oh, you know, I can, I can draw, well, you turn 16, you can get your permit 18 you get your real license um and you know 21 is a big landmarks that how it is in new york yeah that is what is in new york and then 21 is a big landmark uh and then you know after that it's kind of like oh you don't unlock some new freedom after every age and then i was looking up okay 25 what what can you do you can you can rent a car without extra fees oh you can run for congress and i was like oh like that's the first spark of it like oh i'm i'm eligible for some pretty

serious office. So I was thinking about it. And then what really sparked it was sort of the situation around New York, the New York metro area right now. The city and outside of the city I grew up in has changed dramatically. It's without a shadow of doubt and stuff I see in front of my face every day. The situation has really deteriorated. It is not the city I grew up in. I'm now seeing this whole idea of New York City was bad in the 1980s. There was tons of crime and you know but we've gotten better since then i sort of saw myself on the sidelines of uh something and i didn't want to be part of the generation that let a backslide happen and uh i wanted to get involved i mean covid uh really impacted young people and we saw a lot of

elected officials affect our lives in huge ways uh people in high like you know if you were in high school then a lot of uh key marks of the american childhood prom got canceled and whatnot college kids got sent home. So a lot of young people kind of woke up to the fact that, hey, wait a second, you know, we're sort of being robbed because of elected officials, not even taking our interests and opinions into mind. And, you know, then you start on that rabbit hole and you realize, oh, wait, they're stacking up debt and they're stacking up overspending that they're going to be long gone by the time that we're going to be left with the bill. And you start to look into this and realize, oh, wait, we need young people to get involved in Congress. We need

young people to get involved in government because, you know, if we don't, we have cost of living being raised. Most people are working jobs with wages that haven't grown in the past 20 years. Meanwhile, the cost of living is going through the roof. I mean, I think the average household costs have gone up 40% in the past year, or even more. That's that may be wrong, but it's the inflation numbers have gone through the roof. And we're looking at a situation where people have no hope of buying a house in the next five years, especially young people. Right.

So we're in a housing crisis. We're in a, you know, a lack of wage growth. Everyone's savings are being robbed by inflation. Oh, wait a second. I really need to get involved in this because we're going down a road where I turn 35 and, you know, our GDP might be less than the debt. debt payments we're going to have to make on our national debt. So we got a big problem coming.

I like that you're young. Well, I like that you're young and you get a lot of these issues. Because to be honest, they're real and they affect people and they're boring. Like, you want to talk about GDP? Like, I just lost thousands of viewers, you know? I'm joking, but I'm serious. Like, I've done this for a long time, Bill. I've done in sports.

I've done it. People just get bored with, like, things that really matter. And that's the truth. you know um but one thing that you said to the new york post i believe which i found fascinating you said um a tipping point was randles island full of illegal immigrant shelters and randals islands for people that aren't in new york is like a huge recreational facility with soccer fields my boys grew up playing soccer at randles island yeah and it's just like it's the place where everybody in new york can go and play baseball football soccer whatever and now at least a percentage of a

portion of it's a huge illegal immigrant shelter and that's real quality of life stuff that as you point out you can see changing before your eyes in new york city yeah and in with that even though it's a portion only a portion is where the actual camp is it's not like those people are contained that spot they're going everywhere there's been games canceled you see people on twitter talk about how their son soccer game got canceled because there was a guy who wouldn't get off the the pitch the field and uh and it's all sorts of stuff just nice Sort of robbing, you know, that was supposed to be a place you could drop your kid off to play a doubleheader baseball game. And if you had other things to do, so you could go and come back.

But now, you know, you can't leave your kid for two seconds because there's people that we don't, we did not vet who got through the southern border. And we don't know their criminal history. We don't know if they're there to with, if they came to America, not with the American dream in mind. And trust me, I know, like our nation's been. founded by immigrants, well-meaning immigrants looking for the American dream. But we're in a situation where, you know, we need to figure out who all these individuals are, what their intentions are, and give them an easy path to citizenship in one way, but just ensure there is a system they have to go through to get citizenship, just a system in general, just some sort

of processing facility, some sort of containment of this total unregulated, honestly cartel-controlled border. So it's a huge issue. I went to your site, man, and I looked at all your, yeah, I looked at all your issues on your site. And, you know, well, first of all, you're running as a Republican. And so good luck in your future in sports media as someone who can speak directly to that environment. But you'll be fine. You've always been an outsider and independent. But your issues that you're into are, on one hand, I would say, like, I like, I like everything you're saying, a lot, you know, and they're kind of standard Republican on a lot of them, meaning you're worried about government spending, you're worried about inflation, you're worried about the Second Amendment,

but then there's some things that you're also bringing the table that maybe you have a reflection of you being young. Like, one of the things you're pointing out is you want to hold Big Pharma accountable, which is an interesting thing to say and a position to hold. And another one is what you brought up in a minute ago, the housing crisis, which particularly affects your generation with high interest rates, accompanying high housing prices. How do you ever, and by of the way, low inventory in stock. How do you ever get in? And so I think those are, you got some really interesting stuff. I'm saying this sincerely. You got some really interesting stuff that you're advocating for that, I mean, I think I wouldn't hear from most people in sports media, but

that you have chosen to run for as a Republican in New York. Yeah, I mean, a lot of those issues, especially the big pharma piece, that has a lot to do with mental health, the opioid crisis, and a host of other issues that my generation has been hugely impacted by. I mean, if you ask anyone from my age group, everyone knows someone who's been affected by the opioid crisis, know someone who's succumbed to the overdose, you know, someone's impacted. And that's something that Big Pharma is being held accountable, just like some people in Congress are being held accountable when they violate the Stock Act, like Tom Swazi, but they haven't really been, had to pay for the huge generational systemic impact

that the opioid crisis has had on this country. And it's gotten way worse since COVID. We were on a positive trajectory with overdose rates going down, you know, pill distribution was being lowered, but we've rebounded in such a way that there might have been so many people who died due to the, basically the shutdowns during COVID and succumb to auxiliary things such as opioid overdose because of mental health issues, because they were not able to go out. So you have a bunch of young Americans who lost their lives because of government overstepping to prevent the loss of life. But, hey, like, you know, we'll save this many people who won't die of COVID.

But, hey, all these hundreds of thousands of people are going to die of opioid overdoses. That needs to be, you know, we need to sort of point that out and be like, hey, can we hold these companies who made billions of dollars off of the deaths of so many Americans? Have they really been held accountable besides a couple million dollar fines here and there? Well, in your generation, opioid's one thing. I mean, but your generation, and we can see the stats on this, there's a whole host of drugs they're taken under the advisement of big pharma. I mean, I don't know. I think it's like a huge percentage. percentage of your generation is on something, antidepressant, ADHD, something, on something.

And part of that is because... And I think that's hugely concerning. It's hugely concerning because you have so many kids and so many people my age where it's like they're not trying to find a solution, they just want to find users forever. And, you know, that might come to a total... I might not be informed enough on this topic, but, you know, the mental health crisis in our country is something that is having a huge impact on the next generation, a huge impact on, you know, our function as a society with many, many topics, be it, you know, gun control,

be it a host of things. So why aren't we trying to find solutions instead of trying to find consumers? And Big Pharma has been geared towards profit, and they have, they've lost their original founding, you know, the original nuance of medicine, which is to help people. So, you know, that's probably a huge other issue that is going to be hard to tackle, but someone's got to be like, hey, take the first steps. Again, I like all the issues you're talking about. So here's what I'd say. Like, I would wish two things for you, okay?

If you win, I hope you stay strong because that place will co-opt you and turn you into something. that you haven't been in your life, which is independent. That place, Washington, D.C. will turn you in to a creature like everyone else. But I do think you have a level of independence as exhibited by your career and the fact that you're even doing this as a Republican in sports media that shows maybe you can withstand that pressure. So if you win, I wish that for you. If you lose or you get kicked off the ballots or you get boxed out,

I hope you keep talking. I mean, I hope you keep finding ways to serve, you know? I hope you just keep being you and being independent, and I hope being real. I appreciate that. And hopefully that's the best thing that comes out of this, that people start looking at the issues I'm raising and hopefully make a difference. All right. Bill Cotter, Billy Football of Barstool, I guess I might have assumed that I'd run India in some capacity,

but I never thought it would be like this as you running for Congress in NY3. So I wish you luck, man. Thanks for coming in and doing this. This is fine. Appreciate it. Hey, wait, wait, before you go, if you're going to be a good politician, you've got to plug that website one more time, Billy. Congress.com. I got, I snuck one in there.

Say it again. For Congress.com. Yeah. That's right. Trust me. I can do a three-minute interview on Fox and Friends, and I'll hear about their website three times in three minutes. So, you got it three times in 20 minutes. That's Connor with a C.

Welcome back with a C. Make it four. Make it four. All right, thanks, Billy. Best of luck. All right. There we go. Fun show today. Good show today, I think. Hit subscribe, YouTube, Spotify, Apple. And then, if you do that, I'll see you again next time. You can listen to this show, ad-free, on the Amazon music app. It is time to take the quiz.

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