Will Cain Country - Rebellion in Minnesota? Trump Threatens Military Action (ft. Michael Malice)

Episode Date: January 15, 2026

Host of "YOUR WELCOME" and Author Michael Malice joins Will for a wide-ranging conversation, discussing the growing role of populism in U.S. politics, the untold facts on abortion and assisted suicide, the potential of the Insurrection Act being invoked in Minnesota, and whether authoritarianism will be necessary in the future to alleviate America’s growing political divide. Plus, Will and The Crew reflect on Will’s conversation with Michael Malice, before discussing Gov. Tim Walz’s (D-MN) failure to quell the chaotic anti-ICE protests rocking the streets of Minnesota and the growing number of states allowing assisted suicide. They also debate nose picking as a recent study investigating a potential leak between "digging for gold" and Alzheimer’s.   Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country! Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@willcainnews) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Visit medcan.com slash moments to get started. Insurrection in Minnesota, Governor Tim Walton, Mayor Jacob Frye, asked for an ice agent to be beat down by the public and the people of Minneapolis comply. Are we on the verge of civil war, or are we on the verge of a totalitarian state with the host of your welcome, Michael Malice? Wilcane Country. Streaming live at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook channel, Facebook page, the Fox News Facebook page, Spotify, Apple. Beginning to think that Wilcane Country is the manifestation, the realization of a fever dream for tinfoil pat. More and more this show is morphing into the bucket list, the wish list, the aspirations of tinfoil pat.

Two Days Dan sends me this picture taken moments. before our streaming broadcast here today. Two laptops, two men. Both radical and conspiratorial, both side by side, both perhaps should be hosting this episode of Wilcane Country. It is Tinful Pat right next to the host of your welcome, Michael Malice. And look, now both men are on screen as we speak. Malice, do you realize that my producer might be your biggest fan? He might be donating to you at Patreon and locals. And neither of us are wearing pants. So that's something else to have in common.

You're not supposed to tell them, Michael. Stand up and prove it. Stand up, prove it. Let's see. You don't want to see that. You don't get to just make a like-switch. That's not for the free show. You don't get to just...

That's behind a paywall. No, come on. Malice, if you are, What is behind you? Is that a Gimp costume on a mannequin? What do you have on? What are you? What's behind you? Sir, Mr. Pleb, that is Klaus Nomi's tuxedo. And if you don't know who Klaus Nomi is, one of the greatest musicians of all time, you can Google it. That looks like the Gimp costume, just a female cut version of it from Pulp Fiction. From here, from my angle. The Gim costume is all in black. I think it's just the angle. Skin tight. It's the body suit under the, um, thank you.

The, uh, the, uh, uh, why in my republic tuxedo, tuxedo parody. Look him up. Klaus Nomi. If you stood up. Okay, look him up, Dan. I didn't know Klaus Nomi. Is he related to Kristi Nome? Uh, the, if you were to stand up, Dallas, and you would have revealed no pants.

Yeah. Would it be whitey tides? Would it be boxers? Would it be boxer briefs? It would be Sheath underwear. I'm an underwear model. So promo code malice for 20% off at Sheetunderware.com. The only underwear with two pouches for both parts of your male anatomy.

I'm not kidding. Sheathunderware.com is what you want to be. And I'm not as a two pouches? Yeah, one for one party of male anatomy. Another one for that party, Malanat. It keeps you snug and keeps you cool in the summer. But, Will, in honor of our governor, I refuse to stand for anything. I forget. Who's our governor? Oh, you're, are you in New York? Where are?

Governor Abbott. I'm in Austin. He's a Texas. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're a Texan. Oh, what a tasteless joke, Malice. I refuse to stand for anything. I didn't get it. I'm going to tell Governor Abbott, you said that. You tell him. Are you just having the time of your life? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Patrick, are you just having the time of your life? This is a fever dream. I know.

I mean, Malice has been on the show before, but I don't think you've ever been on screen side-by-side with him. No, just afterwards. Yeah. Okay, here's what we're going to do. The host of your welcome, Michael Malice, is here. First question to Malice gets to come from Tenfoil Pat. So Patrick, this is a big moment for you, okay? I'm going to talk like I'm setting this up.

But what I'm actually doing in this moment is giving you time to think. I am slow playing, turning the mic over to you because I know how this goes. I know if I do it abruptly, you're going to pull this thing over into a ditch. You will jerk the steering wheel. We will crash. Okay, I know I've been here before. Okay, so for the most electric man in broadcasting, who cannot be thrown a curveball, who only needs softballs underhanded, meatballs across the plate, have I given you enough wind up? Don't be listening to me.

Think about what you're going to ask malice. You get the first question. This has all been cushion, padding. Here comes the pitch. You ready? It's going to go underhanded. Softball style. It's big as a beach ball.

Up? Here comes. It's like 20 miles an hour tops. It may not even make it to the plate, but it's going to. So you can take a swing. Here is the ball. It's arriving at the plate. Patrick, the floor is yours.

Michael, you're also an immigrant, just like the Somalis up in Minnesota. Do you feel angry that you didn't also come up with a good fraud scheme? That's not true. I did have a good fraud scheme. I got into college for free because we pretended I was living with my grandparents, so we used their income taxes at the basis of how much money I could pay. So I got a free ride. So I absolutely did a fraud scheme. Awesome. Well, there you go. I'm not kidding at all. That's the good move for everybody out there. You shouldn't be wasting all that money in college.

No, 100%. So wait a minute. You moved to America. Yeah. You used your parents' address, I assume, as a residency to get in state. When you go to college, you're applying for financial aid, right? They do that on basis of need to pay. So if you say you're living with your grandparents, my grandfather was making a lot less money than my parents were. They want that gives them and they, I was like the best student of school that gave them Bucknell which is not a good university. That gave them an excuse to give me more financial aid. Never even heard of such a scheme.

It's the Russian trick. You Russian? Yeah, I came from the Soviet Union. Yeah. Let's look into the Russians next. I mean, Somalis can't have a corner on the market. I feel like people have been looking to the Russians for like 100 years at this point. I feel like the Russian problem is well established.

Where should we look after the Somalis? What's the next fraud cornered by one immigrant group in America? Oh, that's easy. No, no, no, that's easy. The anchor babies from the Chinese Americans. So that's a thing in California where they have like hotels or like temporary residences where women come over and have a kid so that that kid is a citizen. There's a whole scheme with that.

It's lots of them. This has kind of been reported and underreported. We did this story, Mike. Yeah. I know. And it gets worse, right? Because there are rich billionaire Chinese, apparently, men who are, what are they doing? Is it, is it, they're doing artificial insemination in America, so having as many babies as they can have?

And some of these guys, and this isn't conspiratorial. I mean, I think this has been written up in the Wall Street Journal. Like, there's several Chinese billionaires who've had something like a hundred to a hundred. 50 babies through this process, setting them all up to be American citizens. Yeah. So birthright citizenship is something as an immigrant. It seemed just crazy to me. It's just the idea that the kid just steps foot here and somehow they get the whole entitled list of things that every other American gets.

I mean, I can easily make the argument for residency if you're born here. If you've been born and you've never done any of the country, you have a right to have a job. paired to taxes and all that other good stuff. But the idea that it's just your automatic, because your allegiance isn't going to be to America per se, you know, if your entire families from somewhere else and just happen to be the one thing holding them here, you're not going to have that kind of mindset that other Americans will, will, especially if you're from a country that despises America. You know, when people came over from the Soviet Union, they hated the Soviet Union. We wanted to be Americans. We hated, we left Russia for a reason. But it's not the, it wasn't

the reason for free college. the reason is we knew the Soviet system was insane and evil. Does anybody else do birthright citizenship? I think the answer is no. I think we've done that research and did it on the Wilcane show. Like, no other countries really do that, do they? Or they do. It's a very rare proposition.

Not industrialized or anything. Yeah. And all of them, European, but not just the major industrialized nations, all of them have much more stringent immigration laws than we seem to have in America. I mean, enforcement of illegal immigration, deportation, all of that. Like, it's the most controversial, not the most, but one of the most controversial, maybe the most, controversial issues in America isn't controversial for the rest of the world. On that note, by the way, Mous, abortion's the same way. Like, we have this conversation

here, like, where this, you know, it doesn't matter. This is not like a should or should conversation, like, whatever your position on abortion is. I believe in, like, 75% of the European nations, abortion is more stringent than it is in America. I don't know if you saw this will, but recently the parliament, they changed the abortion laws to basically abortion until birth, or something very close to that. But all the articles in the UK, the headlines made it seem like, oh, you know,

women's rights to choose are protected, because the implication, if you just read the headline, would be Britain had been pro-life five minutes ago, and now it's like what we have now, as opposed to Britain had been what we have now, and now made it to full birth, like, as in several American states. People don't even realize that, but in several states, right now, you can have abortion until birth, which is, to me, I don't, as someone who's not particularly pro-life, I can't wrap

my head around it. How do you reconcile that? Like, you're not particularly pro-life, but you can't get your head around abortion until birth. Like, what line are you drawing, Malice? Brainwave. So detectable brainwave in the fetus? Yeah, I also think there's a fundamental difference between.

a kid who's viable eight months. I mean, that's clearly a fully formed human, or not fully formed, but you know what I mean. And someone, let's suppose, if a woman, for example, God forbid, if we're going to get into the weeds here, has to have, like, you know, the worst thing that could happen to a woman, like a stillbirth, as opposed to a miscarriage.

Those are both horrible tragedies, but those are not the same psychological phenomenon. It's not the same experience, and I've known women have had both. I think that's true. But I don't think the – I find this an interesting conversation. I don't think that the value of a human life is defined by another's grief towards the loss of that human life. I think what you said about the way a mother would react to a stillborn versus a miscarriage is different.

But I don't think I can wrap my head logically around that, therefore, then defines life. You used a term, which is a – to me, it's a red flag in this conversation. I'm not pretending like I know everything. I just all of a sudden and curious when someone says to me what you said. Like in your mind, you have a line or in your soul, in your sense of morality, you have a line, which you've kind of suggested. You use the term viability. The problem with the viability thing is that it's very, very dependent upon technological and scientific advancement. So we think, you know, stages today that are viable were unviable 20 years ago.

in stages that are unviable today will be viable in 10 to 20 years. That can't mean that defines life. I'm not someone who's going to take a hard stand on this, especially as someone who doesn't have kids and is a guy. What I will give the pro-life, and this is why I'm kind of hesitant talking this issue, because something that pro-life people have gotten right and I had gotten wrong is when they talk about the sanctity of life.

And I think it would do them a big service if they spoke in somewhat less religious language for people in cities, because I completely have done a 180 on this. Because I don't know if you know this will. In Canada, their maid program, which is assisted suicide. There's a woman named Kelsey Sharon who's doing great work on this. First they had it for terminal people, which we could, it's not a slippery slope, it's an elevator shaft, right? We could all wrap our heads around. I got a hundred days to live. I'm in extreme pain. I'm unconscious. Okay, this person's suffering. But once they get you there, now they're talking about mental illness, they're talking about depressed kids, and now in Canada there's a move to make it a family event where grandma gets to choose when she goes, so it's not up to her health, but we're all going to decide together, and we go to her house and we kill her. There are now 10 states in the U.S. where this is starting. Kathy Hockel from New York just signed one. So that is something where I am extremely concerned because it's not being dissoned.

disgust and it very quickly becomes, you know what, you're expensive. We saw the COVID arguments how very quickly, you know, unless you're on board, you're the devil. And you know, you want to kill grandma. Now it's going to be, oh, you don't want to kill grandma. You're the devil. She's old. She's, you know, she's got arthritis, Will. Why are you letting her stay on instead of letting her die with dignity?

That's how the argument goes. And it's happening right now north of the border. It is very, very scary to me. Let's take a quick break. this is going in unexpected directions but fun with Michael Malice on Will Kane Country. This is Ainsley Earhart. Thank you for joining me for the 52 episode podcast series, The Life of Jesus. A listening experience that will provide hope, comfort, and understanding of the greatest story ever told. Listen and follow now at Fox News Podcasts.com or wherever you listen to podcasts.

Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with the host of your welcome, Michael Malice. So I want to know more, this is fascinating. I want to know more about your. much more plugged in on what's happening in Canada. It's not a slippery slope. It's an elevator shaft. You're right. Like, okay, you start with this. Let's do this the way that those who would support it or who may one day support it would do so. And that is through the lens of empathy. It is not my primary lens through which to guide me, right? But I think it's really smart to try to say, okay, let's step. How do we get there? Okay, so let's step into the frame through which they see these. things, right? So that's going to be empathy. So let's do that. Man, I got a terminal cancer diagnosis. I've got six months to live. I'd rather go out on my own terms. And a great amount of people will look at that through the lens of empathy and say, I totally agree. You should be

able to go out without the suffering on your own terms. Let's now make it legal to have assisted suicide. That's the beginning, right? And by way, where are we in Canada? On that proposition alone, Mike, can you do that in Canada what I just described? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Easily. Okay. And then there is the ever-expanding, this is the game that's always played. And I'm not saying it's a calculated game by everybody. It's just we have the life experience to know how this goes. Words become malleable. Concepts become fluid. So, again, we're living in our skin of empathy, seeing things through that. and the words become suffering.

The big word there is suffering, I think. And so-and-so is suffering from something else. And I don't want to like, I wish I had an analogy, maybe you can Mike that was a little closer to the terminal cancer diagnosis, because it won't leap from that to a depressed kid. But it will go there because suffering is the subjective word. And we know with the trans thing that parents seeing things, seeing things. through the filter of empathy will do some pretty crazy things to their kids. If a kid says, I want to chop my breasts off, and a parent saying, uh, I don't want my kid to suffer, I don't

want my kid to be suicidal, will allow empathy to take them into some pretty bad directions. What's their catchphrase for that? The elevator shaft, real quick, you can envision the elevator shaft landing at, I'm really depressed, mom, I'm really depressed at. I don't want to be here. I want to go out on my own terms. and that becoming something that people that see things through empathy will enable. First of all, their catchphrase is, would you rather have a live daughter or a dead son? So talk about exploit with the trans kids. On the trans.

On the trans. So talk about exploiting empathy. You tell that to the mom and dad. If you don't go along with this, your kid, and pretending that the kids who transition don't have high suicide rates, they just don't talk about that. The other thing is when you said, I'm depressed, mom, I'm depressed dad. You're being too soft on them because you're implying that. they're going to have to go to their parents. Because you're seeing right now in California in other states, if I decide as a kid that I'm trans and mom and dad don't support me,

we don't need mom and dad on board. In fact, mom and dad are going to be persecuted if they're not on board. So you're even having a little kind of safety valve. Real quick, on that, Mike, do you, so a kid in California, I know that you're at least partially right. A kid in California that wants to transition certainly doesn't need. both parents on board. We've seen that where a dad has been persecuted and gone after, lost his parental rights in that case. But he's had the, the kid has had the mom on board. A kid can't get to a doctor, work his way through the state, get in transition without at least one of his parents on board. Can he? I don't know. I want everyone watching this to assume that me and

will are tinfoil had and crazy and look it up for yourselves. Because the things we say sound so nuts that until you, because I don't have it off the time of my head, until you research it, you think we must be joking. You must be joking that people who have abortion at nine months in several states. Come on, you're crazy. Look it up. But the thing with California is,

I would bet you could go through your guidance counselor or some other school official and begin the process, because I know it was the law, and please double-check me in this as well, that if they were having a law that the kid can transition at school and the school would not have to tell the parents.

So there's already steps involved. That's maybe social transitioning where they're dressed in different clothes, having different name. I don't know about the medical stuff, but there are steps in place right now. And Gavin Newsom, as you saw, had very recently doubled down on so-called trans kids to make sure that that train doesn't get off that stop at that station alone, but keeps going on that path. But go back to the assisted suicide now. You said to me, I'm being too soft because I'm assuming the mom or dad will have to have some say in the outcome,

and you can go around the mom, dad. So let's go back to that elevator shaft of, the assisted suicide. And one other thing you said is the other word they're going to use is dignity. Don't you want to die with dignity? You don't want to be, you know, old and with a bedpan and you're in a wheelchair. You could choose how you go out. So if, and the thing is when these things become part of the culture, when they become

part of a society and it becomes almost like a Halloween, like a Hallmark movie, isn't it great role going to Grandma's house because she's choosing how to end things? Will, as you and I and everyone watching this knows, old people are very expensive for the medical system. And you have socialized medicine like Canada has. There's a huge incentive for the politicians and other political figures to get you off their roster as fast as possible because a huge percentage of medical bills are racked up in the last years of someone's life, especially someone's struggling with an illness. So the argument economically, get rid of them. That's the way to cut that budget.

So the incentives are there, and it's very dark. to see what is happening right now and how it's being swept in the rug and people are being gaslit about this issue as well. And old people and children are the most impressionable. Now, I'm not talking about old people like set in their ways level of old, but on the other side of the curve,

you know, where maybe their faculties are slipping a little bit. They can be convinced of things. You can manipulate. And the same thing with kids. So I want, Dan, bring yourself in. did a fact check on me in Malice. You have something to share with us. Yes. So the states that have no limits on abortion

up to nine months will be Alaska, Colorado, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Vermont. No limits up to nine months. No limits up to nine months. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's wild. Is assisted suicide legal anywhere in America?

Is assisted suicide legal anywhere in America? It's ten ten states right now. Maybe 11 with New York. I don't know if New York's 10th or a lot. Really? Yeah. Yes. And no one's talking about except for Kelsey. And what, Kelsey? Kelsey Sharon, who I mentioned earlier.

She's the one who kind of brought this to my attention. She's an author and podcast. What are the standards in those, what are the standards in those states, Malice? Like, is it you have to have a terminal diagnosis? Like, we're talking about how the language will use to be able to move the scale on it. But where does it exist today in America? I'm not sure off top my head. And I'm sure each state probably has some subtleties.

But give it five minutes. Do you know what I mean? Like, you know how this goes. Everyone watching this knows how it goes, especially if there's no pushback. This is dropped on the rug. Look that up too, Dan. I didn't anticipate our conversation going this way today with Malice, which I love, actually. It's just a natural fun evolution of our conversation.

The headline, the title on YouTube and Spotify right now is to talk about insurrection. So let's get to that. Here is what Malice posted on X. I don't have a date on this post, but it's very recently. He posted. Last night, Malice? God damn. Like 2 a.m.

What's wrong with you? You didn't put what I was replying to. Oh, really? Is this a reply to something? Yes. Here's what you wrote. It's okay. I'll just put on an ice uniform.

Then I won't have consequences for killing people. And lock comments. What are you doing? What is this in reply to? I had posted a meme of someone drinking antifreeze, right? and I said, let me pull up exactly what I said. I said, I'm fighting against ICE's illegal raids against innocent Americans. Drink the anti-freeze challenge today.

Encouraging people to post videos of themselves drinking anti-freeze to fight ice, right? Just like the water bucket challenge. So someone replied to me and they said, where is it right here? Just remember that when someone takes you up in this, meme, you can and might get sent to jail. So I replied to them and said, it's okay, I'll just put an ice uniform, then I won't have to have consequence for killing people, and I lock comments because they knew everyone would be upset. That's the sequence of events there.

Okay. But in all fairness, I do enjoy shooting lesbians in the head. It's shut up, malice. Stop it. I'm corporate media. You can't be doing this level of trolling and sarcasm here. You can't, you got to know who you're talking to here. This is corporate media. know what you're doing and I don't trust that everybody else knows what you're doing being this troll. Can I say something funny? Hold on Will. I was just on Godfeld on January 2nd and I had blue hair on and the Middle Eastern scarf and you know nose ring and so on and so forth. Yeah, because I wanted to fit in when Domney's New York. I wanted to feel safe and blend in with the crowds. And the Fox viewers are so great because half of them thought it was absolutely hilarious.

The other half didn't get it. And if you looked at the comments on Facebook and elsewhere, the half were yelling the other half. He's joking, you idiots. So it was really, really fun. Just give me your real thoughts for a moment. And this can launch us into other directions that I think we'll go with this conversation. But just for the record, okay, if you really believe all this, then that's what I don't care what you believe.

I just want to get what you really believe. About what's going down in Minnesota. Waltz, Frey, Fry, the thing. By the way, I am done a good job. job. I'm batting 800 on pronouncing this right. But when you pronounce your name Fry and spell it F-R-E-Y, it's not on me. Okay? You've put a burden on me to correct the pronunciation off of the spelling. Okay. If they were F-R-Y-E, I'd get it. So that's not on me. But waltz and fry, the things they're saying, the latest story, malice, which is last night that a nice agent

attempted to detain a Venezuelan illegal immigrant, he fought back, he ran, they got into a scuffle. And then damn it, if two people didn't come out of their apartments and join the illegal immigrant and beating up the ICE agent before he fired his gun in self-defense, I think he hit one of them in the leg. Broadly, I think

I'm going to bring up the late great Scott Adams, who I'm sure you were a fan of. And Scott Adams said, I think he was many years ago, maybe even 10 years ago at this point, we are increasingly at a level where people are seeing two movies on the same screen. I know it's hard for some conservative

understand, but there are many leftists who will swear in a stack of Bibles, who will pass a lie detector test, and will tell you, Trump was praising white nationalists at Charlottesville. They heard him say the words, very fine people. And you could play them the whole tape, and you could hear the part where he says, and I don't mean the white nationalists who must be denounced totally, they will still hear, all they will perceive was he was praising them. And they will not get it through their heads. They're not lying. They really are seeing things differently. With regards to Minnesota. Time now. Real quick. Is that true? Do you think? I've never thought about that. I've always felt this vindigation in playing the whole clip and being like, C, see, see, you've been lied to as propaganda. You think the people that see that whole clip still don't change their mind? Yes. Wow. I've seen them. It's fascinating. Jonathan Haidt has this great book called The Righteous Mind where he talks about people literally perceive things in different ways.

Wow. So as from Minnesota, there's two movies being played and everyone will see the exact same. Either the woman was trying to get away and she was murdered by the size agent and clearly, I'm using in quotes, that's what everyone can see. Or the other one, which is she was trying to hit him and anyone, I say it's a regular person, if you're trying to hit me with the car, has a right to shoot in self-defense and should very reasonably be scared for their lives in that moment. And we could all see the same footage and people are seeing two exactly opposite things. And it is kind of scary that this, I think, and social media is there to validate your perception and to call you crazy and evil if we're seeing the other one. And things are getting more and more in this direction of perception in this country, especially as AI gets smarter and tailors your news to your personal preferences and keeps your eyeballs on that screen. This is where politics is going. And this is unprecedented historically.

And I don't know what it's going to look like. And I doubt you do either because we're crossing. bridges here that have never been built before. This is where politics is going. Let me just challenge you on that. Not because I think you're wrong. I just kind of want to put it to the test. Have we not had examples in history that we can learn from where you've had a populace

living through two separate realities? That's what you've described. Even looking at the same world, looking at the same objective world or video, still living in two different realities. Have we not seen that in the past somewhere? and therefore have some indication of where this might be headed? Let's look at slavery, right? You'll have the North who regarded slavery as, or northerners, who regarded slavery as barbaric.

You had southerners who saying it's not that bad, this is, you know, natural, so on and so forth. But they really weren't arguing over what the facts were. They were arguing over the interpretation. I think we're at a point now. And, I mean, the ability to see data is only pretty recent. I mean, the television was around, what, 30s and 40s, so on and so forth. Now to have ubiquitous cameras, that's very recent historically. I don't see when this could have been the case, because back in the day, if you're going to have news,

it's going to be the newspaper, it's going to be in a book, meaning it's filtered through someone. So that person is going to give you their interpretation of the facts or what facts are important, relevant to the story. Now we're having access to the raw data, and we're seeing different things. I don't see how this could have happened before. Yeah, and you don't know where it's headed. Right. Which is kind of a scary proposition.

Because, you know, one of the conversations I thought about having with you today, and I like that nothing we've talked about so far really has been planned, is how old were you when you moved from the Soviet Union? One half. So you don't have a great amount of memory of it. You probably have some institutional memory of it, some generational memory of it. That's right. With your parents and your fraudster grandparents. But you have some institutional and generational experience with, we'll call it a totalitarian state. At some point, totalitarianism and totalitarianism are indistinguishable from one another.

It's just whether or not, you know, fascism and communism really are, they're right there next to each other on the political circle, not on a straight line graph, right? What's it matter if it's one dude versus a Politburo of dudes? right it doesn't matter can i remind you reagan's joke go ahead uh there were two russians walking around and and one of them goes is this it have we finally achieved full communism the other goes oh no it gets much worse um but what so so i am like you by the way i am intrigued by what people that see something different than me see in in what they believe um you know i'll have really harsh condemnation in hard words for a Maxwell Frost who comes on to the Wilcane show and I'll debate him. Or a Jacob Fry, who I think is saying outlandish things.

Or Tim Walts, who I actually think is incurring this type of violence towards the enforcement of law. But I'm sympathetic or I'm at least curious about those who genuinely see it differently than me. And I do wonder if they don't see federal law enforcement presence in Minneapolis as some vision of a totalitarian state. and see, you know, that either Patrick, you know, your big fan, you know, he's like, this is actually how totalitarianism happens. It happens in response to chaos. The chaos can be natural or it can be astroturfed. It can be created. But the chaos helps feed the potential totalitarianism.

Oh, absolutely. And it's like Rahm Emanuel said, never let a good emergency go to waste. So I can steal man their argument. If I wanted to get to totalitarianism, this would be one of the steps I would need to take. I would need to have people accept the idea of federal agents in every city, you know, pulling people into cars. That would be a necessary step. Now, I'm sure you're going to say, and people watching is going to say, what are you talking about? These are illegal immigrants.

They've no way to be here. And they're correct. But the point is the leftists are correct that if you're going to get to that end goal, you would need to drive through here to get to there, to get people to, have it be accepted normally to have these kind of federal heavily armed troops in a kind of pervasive sense. But my argument back to them, and I fully appreciate that the arguments aren't what we're talking about. We're talking about the world of perception and how people see things, is you've got those federal troops implementing democratically elected laws. Like these laws are on the books voted on by the people. They're not, you know, the whim of President Donald Trump.

He's simply doing what really every president should have done before him, which is, as is the executive branch, execute the democratic laws. Yeah, but now you're making their argument, which is, but you see well, these laws are optional. And the fact that no other president enforced them means they're not really a big deal. And the fact that this is their argument, don't yell at me. The fact that President Trump is choosing to enforce them is boiling that pot with the frog and getting people acclimated to the idea of having their home raided. How about this? Patriot Act. We were told the Patriot Acts are terrorists five minutes later. It's for every American, right? So if I were a Democrat and I wanted to make it the case, Beto O'Rourke, that it's going to be okay that I'm going to go to your house and take your guns, well, first step, I would have it okay that you have agents everywhere taking illegals. And now when people get used to that, they're going to get to the agents. It's not going to be hard for me to,

to turn that switch and get it from illegal aliens to illegal guns. So that's their thought, not that they're against illegal guns, but my point is that is the process that I would need to go through. Let's take a quick break. This is going in unexpected directions but fun with Michael Malice on Will Kane Country. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with the host of your welcome, Michael Malice. How valid, I don't know the answer to this, meaning I don't know what your answer will be. How valid do you think? their points are. Like, I don't think you generally agree with the larger proposition, but how concerned are you?

And I don't, I almost want to take Donald Trump out of the equation because, God, dang, can we have a conversation in this world that isn't about the personality of Donald Trump, right? But, but how concerned are you that whether or not through the world of living in two different movies, like you said, on the same screen, or the, I think you would also agree with this diagnosis. We're kind of entering this phase of a pendulum swinging back and forth between two different visions of populism right now. Right. Yes. And, you know, that's the deal.

That's the deal with populism. Populism is, I actually like populism. I think it means listening to the public more. And but populism, I think the greatest analogy ever saw was like, it's a fire and it can warm you or it can burn out of control. And we might be moving into the burnout of control realm of this where like the response to Trump. is Mom Dani. The response to Mom Dani is something different than Trump, and we swing back and forth, and it could end up in totalitarianism. That's what I'm getting at. How valid do you think their concerns are that we are heading in the direction of totalitarianism? I think it's very valid.

From one side or the other. Yeah, another thing that feeds totalitarianism is when you have a breakdown of consensus. When you don't have the ability to have any kind of national consensus or majority, then the only people who govern do so at the extreme hatred of their opposition. And they have to be more heavy-handed because you're not having this kind of conciliatory, you know, Reagan-Tip O'Neill, okay, you're going to get your spending increases, I get my budget cuts, you know, compromises something that nobody likes but everyone can live with. If you have completely opposing views, such as, on one side, illegal immigrants are in an enormous drain in this country, having them become citizens is crazy,

they're going to vote for their own interests as opposed to those of people who have been here for centuries or even decades or years. Or, hey, they're not hurting anybody. You're just pulling out of houses for no reason. You're monsters. There's no really reconciliation between those two. And a certain point, it has to, and it sadly has become deadly violence. And I don't see, we remember when Biden, when President Trump was shot and Biden had that kind of, you know, I roll a like political violence. is bad, blah, blah, blah.

And for a day, they attempted to cool down the rhetoric. I don't think people like Tim Walts are attempting to cool down the rhetoric. Tim Walts is doubling down and saying, like, we need to fight ice. And when he says fight ice, what does that mean? He doesn't mean, you know, drink antifreeze. He can only mean fight them with force. Now, I don't think marches are going to prevent ice. I mean, and you saw, like you said, yesterday, they're going to help that Venezuela.

illegal and regard themselves as heroes. Well, okay, will public polling, so right now, and I don't know, I don't know how popular this is. I went to CNN this morning and I read some of their polling and it suggests that, you know, 50% or more of the public thinks the shooting was unjustified and is against ICE and what's happening in Minneapolis.

You know, does that compel at some point, Trump to pull back? on immigration enforcement? No, I think Trump, and especially Stephen Miller, who's the point man on this and Tom Holman, really understand this is, in many ways, from their perspective, an existential issue. And polling one way or another,

the Mamdani election wouldn't have happened without overwhelming support from people who are immigrants. New Yorkers who had been there for decades, voted for Cuomo over Mom Dani, which is talk about a Hobson's choice, you know. But I think what's amazing is voter, and this is something I'm not a fan of populism can have contradictory views in their heads.

So they might be against ICE, but in favor of deporting illegal immigrants. And it's like, well, or they'll be in favor of spending cuts and also tax cuts. It's just like you're going to have two different things that fight. How are you going to get there? It doesn't matter, figure it out.

So I do think overwhelmingly, the numbers are huge. Should we deport illegal immigrants who have committed crimes? It's like, what, 90% something crazy? well, how do you get there? I don't know, but ICE is terrible. Well, what option do you have? If I'm a criminal who's here illegally, I'm not going to want to leave. I don't want to get on that point, and you're going to have to drag me out of my house.

You're totally right about the contradictory ideas in people's heads, and there's no, really, I mean, I don't know that you can ever reconcile them. It's back to that kind of thing we were talking about earlier. I think there's a lot of people that are exactly as you just described. I want criminal illegal aliens out of the country. you may even get some plurality of people who are like, I want illegal aliens out of the country. Forget the criminal part. But they don't want ICE doing what they're doing.

They don't want this from ICE. Yeah. And one of the things that I brought this up on social media, and people have the good point. And Trump has done this. If you make things inhospitable, people will self-deport. But the number of people who will self-deport. And that's happening.

That is happening. But if I'm an illegal, which I'm not, don't come to my house. I'm a citizen now. If I'm an illegal, it still might be better for me as an illegal living in the shadows in America than going back to whatever s-hole that I came from. Yeah, for a lot of them. I mean, I did this on the show yesterday. Two million people roughly have self-deported in 2025.

It looks like this will be the first year. These are governments. Yeah. And this is the first year and a half a century that we'll have a net negative migration. So, you know, obviously under Biden, it was huge. But the truth is, under every administration, Republican or Democrat, it's been net. positive migration. And this has had net, we've had net negative. So that's, that's actually like gigantic. And then the question is, well, what does that do? What I focused on yesterday

is obviously safety. That, that's, that's a help on the streets, right? I don't know if you saw this, Michael, but fentanyl overdoses are down, down big, like from about 80,000 a year to below $50,000 a year. Housing prices are down. I'm not ready to say that's completely attributable to illegal immigration. There's high interest rates that have taken their toll and so forth. You know, classrooms, education. So, and I had Peter St. Ange, who's an economist from heritage on yesterday, and he's like, it's also going to help welfare because if there's job openings, people go to work. They're not on the dole. So when you said gigantic net negative, was that a reference to Rosie O'Donnell? No, no. I don't do that.

That's too easy. See, you're better than that. You've been doing your Greg Abbott jokes while ugly were at least original, you know. Rosie McDonald is the inflatable in every conservative room that you get to kick every once in a while. I don't do, I don't do. You can't inflate her anymore. And I didn't think you did either. That pump is filled. But to your point.

Come on. I expect you to be taking shots from the logo. I don't want to see you in the paint with no defense doing easy. layups. I want Michael Malice out here bombing from Steph Curry territory. I don't know what any of those words are, but I assure you as someone who's a little person, I need those easy layups because I'm not dunking anything. But to your point, people are also a lot less more comfortable with welfare and helping poor people with medicine if it's citizens who are down in their luck, as opposed to someone who came from another country and came here for a free ride. So if you're a supporter of the welfare

state. This is something that in terms of public support of these programs, this helps enormously because people are very, are not resentful. Even conservatives. If it's like, you look, someone's out of a job, can we help them out so they don't get homeless? People like, you know what, if my tax go for that. Or feeding poor kids, that's an easy one. Like, take as much money as you want, I don't want anyone going hungry. But if it's like, my whole family is coming here from some awful country and now we're just going to, you're going to give, you know, in Great Britain, they give them like Netflix and they give them like a like stipend to spend whatever they want, it's, it's unconscionable. You can't wrap your heads around it. But really, if it's just for people who are

really a need, then yeah, I think the numbers are going to be huge. Like should kids be prevented for being starved, starving by giving them free food by the government? Who's going to be against that? That's the easiest one. Welcome to the UK. Here's your Netflix subscription. Here's your tickets to the Tottenham Hotspur. We hope you enjoy your stuff. Yeah. Do you think Trump should enact the Insurrection Act? How close are you to the federal government in the face of this ridiculous local government, and I'm perfectly fine with that characterization and worse, and now an increasingly rebellious

public in Minneapolis taking up these leaders on their incivility, that's not the right word, on there, I don't know, fight back against law enforcement. Should the National Guard go in? Should Trump invoke the Insurrection Act? My understanding is the Insurrection Act is invoked quite rarely. It should have been invoked at all in 2020, when cities are being burned down and cops are ordered to stand down. I don't think we're at that point yet. And I think this is, you know how in Canada you had the trucker convoy and they, for the first time, they deployed their emergencies act.

which was enacted for the sake of like 9-11-style emergencies, as opposed to a bunch of truckers honking their horns at night and making a little bit of noise and we're perfectly safe. So I think this is one of those things where it's an escalation, and I'm very wary of setting the precedent for the federal government to escalate things because I don't want that next Democratic president to be like, well, you were happy when Trump did it, so I'm going to go have that insurrection act

because I don't like how the schools in Florida are being run, or something to that effect. They'd be perfectly happy to, and I'm not saying they wouldn't do it anyway, but this would be a very strong argument for them to do it themselves. All right. I'm not into this with my most controversial question to you. I probably shouldn't even ask you. All right. If you think there is a high probability that we're headed towards at least some totalitarianism in the future, right?

And you have an increasingly bleak view of the public's ability to live in a shared reality. reality. The founders said the democracy was only fit for a people who had shared basic morality and values. They intended for this not to be a libertine land of hedonism. They intended for this to be freedom checked by your own virtues, not by a power, a government power. And for them, that was very clear. That was like Judeo-Christian. At the time, let's be real, it was Christian, morality and values. And so the point of me saying that is, and I say this when it comes to other countries and this whole democracy exporting empire we've had for a long time, not everybody's fit for

democracy. And that's not an indictment of any individual and it's not snobbiness or it's not, whatever. Not every culture is cut out for democracy. And it's debatable whether or not we are, okay? if you adhere to what the founders envisioned to this thing. Do you think the future then, and you and I both know there are people on the right who are in some very rare corners who will say this, do you think the future will require an authoritarian to bring order or even prosperity or some, I don't know, cohesion of a nation state? Otherwise, we descend into, it won't be democracy at that point. I don't know what it will be.

Well, I don't think totalitarianism delivers prosperity. Like, that's one of the, even if you're set aside all the moral arguments against it, you do not, you can't have a creative free enterprise system under totalitarianism. And if I am a wealthy person who's a innovator, I'm not going to be under someone's thumb. I'm going to move to another country that will have me and treat me with respect. This happened in the 70s in the States. There was this big brain drain where all the smart people from Europe got better jobs here, all the doctors and engineers went from East Germany to West Germany, because like, why am I

having my mail read and being monitored when I could have 10 times of the money and be treated with respect? It's just a very easy argument to make. To your point, I... No, I want to hear. Go ahead. Okay. So I don't know. I don't think the American system is conducive to a totalitarian state. It's very hard to pull it off because when I see people on the right saying, you know, President Trump hasn't done enough. I'm like, literally, what do you expect him to do? He does not have a governing majority in the House. The Senate he has.

There's only so much you can, even if you had those, you know, a House majority and a Senate majority, there's only so much you could do with our system and with the populace who's averse to, like, strong change. So I am scared where it's going. And I think there's an appetite, increasing appetite for it. Because with an increasing distrust to both sides, It's like, I got to crush them before they crush us.

And when that kind of ethos is in the air, bad things happen as a consequence, even if they may feel good in the short term. And I would add this to it. Even if we could grant the premise that you had a benevolent authoritarian, a benevolent dictator, right, who reestablished order, maximized freedom, he was great. He did everything. He just took out the chaos, right? Right. Succession has, I don't, is there, is there a great example of succession ever? You know, like, where do you go from there?

After that, what happens? You get who? And that's when you get quick dissension into really every lesson of history. Yeah. So I just add that to your. Yeah, and people get used to it and accept it as the new normal because then, and the people in power, not the guy at the top, his cabinet and his staff, they're there because, They like the power, not because they believe in liberty.

They want it. Right. And they're going to make sure it's going to stay. Exactly, after he's gone. So it's a dark road to go down. And I think everyone watching this realizes what I'm saying, that they should be worried. It's not just Trump haters. It's like there's this energy in the air for strong executive leadership against one's enemies.

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I moved it from my nose to my lip To my ear I couldn't get it to fit over here So some people caught that is really fun All right Michael Malice What a fascinating and unpredictable conversation we had with you today, the kind that I'm sure that you get often on your welcome. So make sure you check out Michael on YouTube or check out of his books,

not sick of winning, the white pill, or the new right. Always good to have you, Michael. Thank you. Always a pleasure, Will. Okay. There he goes. By the way, I've got a lot of comments from you. So let's take a quick right, come back. We'll get you into the conversation. We'll see if it lived up. Do you think Michael lived up to Patrick's expectations? He's in hog heaven. Let's be real. Let's find out when we come back on Wilcane Country. We'll list your ways in on a wide-ranging freewheeling conversation we just had with the host of your welcome, Michael Malice. It is Wilcane Country at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Will Kane Facebook, and Fox News Facebook.

Follow us on Spotify or Apple. Two great men, as Dan pointed out, Michael Miles, Tinful Pat, virtually. I looked over. I was just like, wow, look at those two. That's a show right there. Right. Yeah, and you know what? I gave you a big lead.

Patrick, how early into the cushion I gave you were you ready to ask that question? It was literally right at that moment at the end. It was like, I don't know what the only said. No, come on. And then I literally popped into my mind, oh, he's an immigrant, and then I made the connection. I need a lot of time. I'm not going on my feet. It was 50-50 for me if you were going to pull it off.

Yeah. I mean, I spoke for, I did nonsense speak. 45 seconds. I mean, I. At least. 45 seconds. Yeah. I mean, I was a pitcher on the mound. You know, I was, everything was super slow.

Tim Wakefield without the knuckle. Yeah. So right at the last minute, you saw the beach ball coming. You caught it in your line of sight right at the end, and you thought swing. hit. It's a good hit. It's a good question. Thank you. Got a good answer, too. Immigrants only lead to fraud. He's a fraudster. What's the statute of limitations on fraud, by the way?

I don't know. I'm really cavalier about exposing his grandparents. Yeah, they're going to get a visit. Yeah, I should have asked for their address so I could send ICE over there. See what's up. Because like Amera WB1, the polls are well. off who's taken these polls. I'm for ice all the way. I've voted for this.

And Heavy Barrel says, arrest Waltz now. I voted for this, too. I voted for him to go to Brooklyn and find Michael Malice's grandparents. I thought you're coming from me. Arrest Waltz and the malices immediately. Tim Walts. Abbott joke. Is,

he didn't back off either. He came up with a second one on the fly. The I'm upstairs thing? He's quick. See, he's a quick thinker. He's the opposite of me. He's very good on his feet. You need a little more time.

You're like a slow roll, and it's really good. Yes. Thank you. Really bad, and that makes it really good. Yeah. Man, the language coming from Waltz and Fry is really, really, really, it's probably over the line at this point, but really, really, really in the realm of insurrection talk. it's out of control.

Waltz is telling people, and even when they couch their little, please don't be violent, don't take the bait, it is almost as an addendum. It's an addendum. An asterisk. I'm really proud that I said that word well. What's a hard word, if you think about it? The degree of difficulty on asterisk.

I've also noticed, there's another word I've been nailing on TV, that I've been really proud of myself. What's that? word. Going into your big boy dictionary? Yeah. Because asterisk. That's what I've always said in my life. Asterisk. It's a footnote, man. Like, hey, get the F out of Minneapolis. You jackbooted thugs, you masked kidnappers. You know, stand up to these guys. Footnote. Don't take the bait and do anything violent. Well, people aren't reading the footnote, man. And they came last night out of an apartment and intact an ice agent.

Gang jumped him. Three dudes with broomsticks and shovels. While he was making arrest of another guy. They do have guns. Insane. Who? Ice. Brooms sticks and shovels versus guns.

So what? I'm just being facetious. I think you are, but I don't think you are. I think that there's some Brooklyn brunch crew inside of you. I text them way too much. And there's a world, there's a world

where you are out there yelling at Ed, you know, who's a cameraman in Minneapolis, and blowing your whistle at Alexis McAdams who's out there today. I think that the degree of separation. Less government. If we are doing a degree of separation, right, how close are you to being a whistle-blowing

media harassing, ICE interfering Patriot? Right, right. You, Dan, are like, here's the scale, right? I'm the furthest away. Patrick's actually closer to me

than me to that. And you're the closest. And I'm afraid you're only to be one of those dudes. You just need the right issue to infre. Yeah. You're just, all I need is the right issue and to turn it the right way and the next thing you know you're blowing a whistle in a

cop's face in the comment section i just need the right issue that's true in the comment section i said light ice in my cup heavy ice on the streets i am as pro ice as you get right now so i don't know i just want the federal government out of our lives there's some other ones i could i could twist it a little bit patrick and you're in the streets and with blue hair with blue hair that's true i've thought about it blue streaks not full blue chris is error says Michael is the ultimate troll. Curly Greenleaf on YouTube says 18 U.S. Code section 111, assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers or employees.

Yeah, of course. Yeah. Go to book. Get them. That was a fascinating conversation that really always wasn't about things we had planned. In the audience, for example, on the abortion conversation, which, man, I don't want to talk about abortion. Like, nobody wants to listen to talk about abortion. I really wish you wouldn't on YouTube.

It's frowned upon. Oh, really? Yeah. Erd-R. D. Reg says, getting into the gritty, having a stable base brain level is an intriguing look at it. It's a nice point. They like the base brain level. Point made by malice. Jay Elliott said the same thing.

First time I heard the brainwave definition. Awesome. Yeah, I guess. You know, heartbeat. I don't know why brainwave is more valuable than heartbeat. I have more stats on the, if we want to go back to the assisted suicide in the U.S., by the way. That was fascinating. Pretty crazy.

That was fascinating. 12 states. A few months ago, I mentioned this. Canada was doing this, and they've been shipping organs. They're one of the biggest shippers of organs in the world. So the first state to do it was 97, and it's all the way up to as recent as this month. States have enacted it. You gave us the states that have abortion through nine months, right?

Through birth. Do you have those states in front of you? I'm just curious the assisted suicide states. I do, yeah. Oregon, this is an order of when it started to most recent. Oregon, Washington, Montana, Vermont, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, New Jersey, New Mexico, Delaware, Illinois. And D.C. as an additional note, does as well.

You know what I'd be fascinated by? Like what, like I said to Malice? Like, what are the standards in some of those states? Because the cons— Okay. Fire. So you must be 18 years or older. This is common eligibility across the board for these states.

You must be 18 years or older. Must be a resident of the state that it's legal in. And you must be diagnosed with a terminal disease expected to lead to death within six months. And you must be capable of self-administering the medication. No assisted suicide. We can, but you just have to be able to do it yourself so you know that your copousmentis so you can do it yourself if you wanted to. Yes.

Yes. It's fascinating. And you know what else is malleable there? That's malleable, by the way. The able to, the terminal diagnosis of six months or less. Like, that's going to be totally up to a doctor giving you that diagnosis. Yeah. It's dark to think about it.

This is something we should focus on more. Because to his point on Canada, I'd love to see how much is metastasized in Canada, how much that definitional requirement has been blown out, what it now includes. And as a real indicator of where we might be headed in some of these places. What a downer. Abortion and assisted suicide. Fun talk. Before we go today, Patrick wants to talk about picking your nose. Go ahead, Patrick.

What do you got on picking your nose? That's a great segue. That's a great segue. So, apparently there is a link that is reported recently between Alzheimer's disease and picking your nose. And the claim is that when you pick your nose, you disrupt a barrier between, I guess, the world in your brain. And you're getting all kinds of different bacteria up in your brain, which then clumps. and creates Alzheimer's disease. Do you think anybody's going to look at their grandma

who suffer from Alzheimer's and go, shouldn't have been picking your nose all those years? It's probably it. It's like staying away from sodium your whole life, you know? I think they just throw crap against the wall, really. You have just said that everybody that has Alzheimer's is a chronic lifelong nose picker. Do you have to eat it for it to work, too, or is that just separate?

No, actually, I think that's probably good for your gut. Okay. You know, because it gets the good bacteria in your gut. So it negates the picking. Right. Because your gut, your gut is like your second brain. Awesome. Got it.

That's what they say. Got it. Patrick, were you a booger eater? I guarantee you. I know the answer is yes. 100%. 100%, yes. God, it makes me want to throw up.

There's nothing. I think this is it. I have not queasy. I don't have a weak stomach. You never will? Not one time. Not one time. Not one time.

When you were a kid? one time. You're telling the truth? Never. Well, I was like... Handed God? Never, not once. I was like five. Wouldn't even know why you would do that.

Why would you do that? What is appealing about that? Why would you look at that? Curiosity. Human? Curiosity. I was like five or six or eleven. You put other things that you expelled from your body into your mouth?

Not if you pick it yourself. Like curiosity, that's not good enough, man. Like, there's a lot of things that don't... You're going to do some weird territory, Will. Eat. We're ruining a lot of people's lunch, by the way. We're hearing back from the audience. Can I tell the audience to debate this erupted into earlier?

Okay, here's the debate. All right. Jesus. You don't want to do this? I want to do this. No, we can. We even went to chat GPT for this. What is the primary tool for nose picking?

Okay. Yes, I know. Finger. What finger? Okay. And this erupted into a massive debate. What finger is the primary tool for nosepicking? Apparently, I'm an outlier.

Really? Yes. It's the weirdest thing you've said since I've worked with you. It's the thumb. It's the thumb. Out of here. There's no way you pick your nose with your thumb. Yes.

And I think it is the superior tool by far. It's why it's opposable. All the others have the wrong leverage. They don't bend the right way. Is that Connor laughing real hard to the background? He thinks you're crazy, too. It's too big. It's too big, he says.

I agree. Maybe I have small thumbs or big nostrils. I think that also that you say it's too big. But then your pointer finger serves as leverage on the outside. Do you see what I'm saying? So you can do a pinch. You can do a pinch and drag. But I don't know what you're doing.

A shallow scratch. You can do a shallow scratch. You're talking shallow scratch. We're talking about just picking your... If you're picking, you're getting in there. You got something in there. No, I can get up there. I can get up there.

And I find it's necessary. How are you leveraging with the pointer finger? And, you know, are you hoping to, like, do this number? Like, how are you doing that? I'm serious. I'm not going to do that on camera right now. I think that that forces it higher up.

Don't go too high or you. Touch your brain. That's what they told you when you were a kid. So you guys are all pointer finger? or pinky finger? Yeah, like normal human beings. My aunt threatened to put Tabasco sauce up my nose because I wouldn't stop eating it.

It already answered us on this. Because you wouldn't stop eating your boogers? Yeah. The most common finger to pick your nose. Is that real common eating your boogers? Yeah. When you're a kid, yeah. Or, I don't know.

I mean, I was like 11 or 12. I mean, it's like, it really... It's one of the grossest things I can think. Index finger. Second is pinky. Thumb rare. Mostly accidental, it says, for the thumb. I think it's one of those things that you fell into.

You know when you're not taught the right way or you don't learn something the right way as a kid and it sticks with you the rest of your way? I'm doing this right now. Like if you don't tie her shoes the right way, you just do it that way, the rest of your life. I think that's what happened to you. No one told you.

That's how I right. That's how right. I saw you guys. I saw you guys post a social media clip of this show and I was writing notes talking to somebody and I saw me writing. Like this is how I write. I just learned it as a kid.

I don't know. It's all wrong. It looks like a bald up fist, right? I don't, I hold a pin like this. Yeah, that's wild. I don't hold it with, do you hold it like that? With the three fingers like that? I'm like.

Everybody listening right now on radio on podcast. Like what is he doing? Like this. My chopstick? Yeah, I could see that. I had a friend like this between his fingers like this. Wow. Oh, wow.

Riving stuff. Yeah, coming out between the ring finger and the middle finger. I don't do that. Yeah, that is riveting stuff. So there you go. There you got your nose picking thing. I don't think my thumb revelation is near the revelation of Patrick being a booger eater. And it really does explain a lot.

We want to hear from you. Go to X. No, do we want to hear from the people on this? Listen, you can't hold... I'm going to do a poll question on our ex. Because I was joking. I was very young. I shouldn't hold me accountable for that.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Were you a bedwetter, Patrick? I'm giving him the music. I'm giving him the music. No. Not really.

Late bedwetter? No. No. 13. 13. No. I was not a bedwether. That's going to do it for us today here.

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