Will Cain Country - Rep. Andy Barr: Who's smart, who's dumb: Elon Musk or AOC? PLUS,  Psaki Claims 'Hostile Takeover'

Episode Date: February 6, 2025

Story #1: A CNN panelist says that she is more educated than everyone else in the room, but she is always underpaid and never given the same opportunities. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) claims to that Elon Musk is the dumbest billionaire she's ever met. Inside the Left's credential signaling.   Story #2: President Donald Trump is accused of running a shadow government led by Elon Musk while he is attempting to dismantle one. Plus, breaking down the complexities of President Trump's Gaza proposal with Congressman Andy Barr (R-KY). Story #3: The Crew discusses if Luka Dončić-like trades could come to NFL quarterback rooms next. Plus, Tinfoil Pat and Young James make their case for the historical importance of former MLB All-Star, Alfonso Soriano.  Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, CNN lady says she is more educated than everyone else in the room combined. And yet always, the one with the least opportunity and the most underpaid. Is that a brag? Victim brag? Two, the left is losing their mind about Elon Musk and the shadow government. While Donald Trump goes about exposing and dismantling. A century old, actual shadow government with Congressman Andy Biggs. Three.

How long before we see Patrick Mahomes trading? I'm not trying to be Adam Schaefter. I'm not trying to give a sports hot take, but his NBA stars find that there is no such thing as home. How long until that type of disloyalty soon finds its way to the NFL, just before the Super Bowl? It is the Will Cane show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel. The Fox News Facebook page, terrestrial radio stations, three dozen markets across the great United States of America,

always on demand by subscribing at Apple or on Spotify. You can always join us 12 o'clock Eastern Time right here on all these same channels. By subscribing on YouTube, jumping into the conference. comment section and joining us as a member of the Wallitia. Yesterday we had a fascinating debate that spilled over into the 4 p.m. hour on the Fox News channel. I brought in former CIA analyst Dan Hoffman, former Marine EOD Joey Jones, and a former ambassador to Israel to discuss Trump's plan to build Riviera Gaza. It was an open-minded conversation, not so much a debate, but let's consider all the alternatives. How is this America

of first. Is this the type of out-of-the-box thinking you need to solve a thousand-year-old intractable problem? Is this disaster or is this potential success? We began that discussion here on the Will Kane show and two days you opened it up to the audience. As I mentioned, we want to make this a conversation and opened up to as many people as possible. So you did so. You ran a poll and you brought some of the comments together on where the Willisha stands on Maragaza. Yeah, it was actually the closest poll we've had. It was pretty

almost 50-50 for the poll, and people were pretty mixed in the comments. I'll bring a couple up here for you so you can read them. Horrible idea says Jeffrey Schiller. Let's fix America first. Certainly my initial first take, Jeffrey. Got

guts. I can't read it. That's Pikes. Yeah. Says U.S. owning Gaza is insane. Trump is not crazy, so I must assume he has something else in mind. I've had my hot takes burned to the ground enough times.

No, I sit back and watch what unfolds. I think that's right. I think we're dealing with a political unicorn that you have to see him play his hand. I haven't learned anything from the art of the deal. What else? And then there's some for the idea a little bit. Denise says Gaza is uninhabitable. Trump offering to help is a great idea.

Has anyone seen the devastation there? True. It's a matter of whether or not we can help, whether or not it meshes us into some type of forever war entanglement. And honestly, also whether or not it's help that's wanted in Gaza. What else, two days? That's him there, says, Gaza will not cost America anything.

Trump said that. America will help develop Gaza with other countries. It's a fantastic idea that solves many terrible problems. Yeah, I want to believe that to be the case. And as I said, I grant the benefit of the doubt that Trump is not any previous American president. But forgive me if I'm skeptical after two decades of what we've been able to build in other nations and underestimations on what it would cost in blood or in treasure. I grant Trump the benefit of the doubt, but I think I'm warranted some skepticism when it comes to going ahead

and not only building a democracy in places that are tribalistic and care nothing about their right to vote, but building them a casino and resort. And there's some that are pretty anti, as you can see here. America 1265 says keep American money in America, let Middle East allies of the U.S. fund the mission in Gaza. And Michael Hitchcock says, how stupid, we don't need that mess. leave it alone please Donald and that's the thing yeah it's the biggest mess ever and we want to walk in and build a casino so it's mixed reviews big time it's so shocking so off the wall that so crazy you wonder if it's just not crazy like a fox or if it's genius so that's some

of the audience feedback we appreciate it uh from you there in the Willisian. We do have Congressman Andy Barr joining us a little bit later in the show. We want to talk to him about shadow governments. The left's current

talking point is that Elon Musk has taken over as a hostile takeover of a government running a shadow government. How does that square with the government that he's actually dismantling permanent Washington?

We'll get into that with Congressman Andy Barr, but first, story number one. The left right now believes there's been a hostile takeover, and they are afraid the authoritarian at the gates is Elon Musk. Here is Jinzaki. What's happening right now is a hostile takeover of the U.S. government. There's no other way to describe it. It's happening clearly across our justice system,

or just a few hours ago, a deadline passed for FBI employees to fill it, questionnaire detailing their involvement in January 6 cases. In other words, they were asked to fill out basically a loyalty test. And I'd spend some time last night, guys, watching MSNBC. I did see Liz Warren jump on with crazy race lady, Jen Socky. She got out crazy, actually on MSNBC. She also got out, boxed out. She barely got to speak. But when she did, she called Elon Musk a wrecking ball. bless everybody who gets out there and makes a fortune bless everybody who gets up every day and goes to work but understand the underpinnings of all that are something we all invested in and now we've got Donald Trump and his co-president Elon Musk and they're just running a wrecking ball through it

and it's not like it's an abstract problem it is really and truly the kid who needs an aid to be able to sit in class so that they can get an education taking that aid away and maybe taking away that whole classroom. It's these very real ways that people are touched by this. Warren dresses completely partisan and shallow talking points in a kindergarten voice and an MIT-Boston perception aura of intelligence and education. Right after that, I heard her say last night that talking about Pete Hegg said that he was stumbling down drunk at work.

She doesn't do anything with sincerity. She doesn't do anything with integrity. She just makes it sound that way like she's teaching you the ABCs. But, well, then I'm Senator Elizabeth Warner, her fellow senator from Massachusetts, Ed Markey, they're warning us of a shadow government, a shadow government run by Doge, a shadow government of co-president Elon Musk. Here's what I would ask you. What is that wrecking ball attacking? Well, from what I've been able to see so far, USAID is one of the big targets. It's $41 billion budget. It's been

revealed that Politico was clearly on the take from USAID. Now, was that a grant, was that a subsidy, or was that subscriptions? That's what people tried to run a fact check on yesterday. as there was a distinction without a difference government employees buying $30,000 subscriptions to Politico pro to get I don't know what extra services and I would be curious if they were subscribing to any other publications like The Daily Wire of the National Review or do they all flow to left-leaning rags if Ron DeSantis used state of Florida funds to subscribe for state of Florida employees to give money to the daily wire.

Would that go unnoticed? Would that go unscreamed about? But that's not how it works. I want a running tally, and I don't know if any of you guys have it. Two of a day's Youngest Talism, James, or Tenful Pat. But I have seen stuff now suggesting New York Times has been receiving government money to some degree.

There's Columbia Journalism Review is talking about reporters without board. some 6,000 reporters receiving money from the United States government. What would be fascinating now is, and I've asked somebody to get on this, it's not going to be easy to Google because you have to actually do the tally. How many different publications are receiving money from the United States government? I don't care, if you call it, a subsidy, a grant, or a subscription. How many are receiving significant sums of money from the United States government?

And then now I want you to think about that and put it side by side against the way the United States government has attacked conservative voices in media through censorship during their time as exposed to the Twitter files into Facebook and Twitter and Google slash YouTube but also the way they attack advertisers that would want to spend money with somebody like Fox or any other online digital independent media there's a reason by the way you got a lot of conservative media

and they run what's called programmatic ads that's just like bottom of the barrels scraping money you know pennies per thousand that's how you sell advertising cost per thousand CPMs you know a high CPMs is a podcast that's really honestly podcasts get the highest CPMs it's like 20, $25 per thousand but like when you go to a website and you see a banner ad it's nothing it's like one to five dollars that's if you're selling it if you're not selling it you do what's called programmatic ads that's the ads that chase you around the internet you know i mean nothing unique about it yeah um pennies pennies and most of conservative media through governmental pressure and boycott and you know people on twitter um ideological that's my point

yeah ideological boycott have reduced a lot of conservative media to trying to exist on programmatic ads while the other side's getting money from the government that's a gigantic scandal and it's also warps your point of view it's a point of view that has been exposed and we've seen the vibe shift of the last two years. But prior to that, there's a reason people thought, I guess dudes can dress up as chicks and swim. You know, I guess there's a reason people thought we were moving in that direction.

There's a reason people thought Levitard was cool. You know? By the way, there is a fascinating video out, speaking of the shadow government. I can't play this video. I want to for you, but James O'Keefe, who does this undercover research stuff, has a fascinating video of, you know, he gets, like, he does like honeypot traps where, like, government or, or NGOs, go on dates with somebody, and then the date records it.

What's fascinating about this latest one is, it's just a dude that works at DHS and, like, in, like, product management for tech. It's the kind of, I don't know what he does. But he describes in the video, he's a G-14, and government jobs. kind of run one through 15. 15 being the highest, 15 directly answers to a political appointee. He's a 14. So he means he's pretty high, but he doesn't deal with politics that much. Like he doesn't deal with the White House. He doesn't deal with Christy Knoem. He works at DHS. And he in this video talks about how much he hates Christy Knoem, hates her. And he reveals,

but it doesn't matter how much they all do to subvert the political appointee's wills. they ignore them they manipulate them they say yes i like that idea but we'll do it this way the point is it's a machine on autopilot right you get it and this is the shadow government that runs everything and this is the one right now that is threatened by the wrecking ball by the way speaking to government employees i want to share this clip with you from cnn okay i don't know her name ashley alison ashley alison ashley alison um she's explaining to everybody on the CNN panel. And she worked at the White House,

so she's worked in government, how aggrieved she is. Educated and underpaid. Watch. I do not have the same opportunity as you. I know I don't. And you know that too. And I know what's going to.

Let me just tell you about me. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not talking about how you feel. I'm talking about how I feel, me, a black woman in this country. A blood of this city. And I will run. And if you want to do it. New Yorker, not in this city. You cannot say that. You can't say it in this city.

I have a... I'm not talking about New York. I'm talking about Ashley... What a minute? I got a lot of degree of master's and two bachelors. Probably more education than all y'all added up together at this table, right? And I have always been the least paid person on payroll at every institution I have worked in. And it's not because...

Even in the White House? Even in the White House. Well, whose fault is that? I don't think he worked for George W or Trump. Well, guess wasn't what happened when I was there? DeI. I don't understand the last point. Guess what would happen when I was there, DEI? So DEI was in place and she was still underpaid. It might be a personal problem. It's like what did not happen. What did not happen? What did not happen? What didn't happen? They didn't have DEI in the Biden White House? That's what she was claiming. I think I think she was Obama, right? That's not even how pay works in the White House. They have a literal list of positions that have uniform pay by level. And it's the same for every, if you're level one, you're X amount, next, X amount.

You guys know the bad roommate analogy. Everybody knows the bad roommate analogy, right? If it's not. If you keep having bad roommates, it's you? Everywhere you move, sooner or later, you don't have bad roommates. You're the bad roommate. Yeah, yeah. If you're bragging about being the most highly educated person at the table, but always the underpaid person, it might be a you problem.

Yeah. It might be the finger wagging. It might be the head bobbin. It might be the grieved attitude. it might be the yelling it might be a personality issue it might be a you problem she offered the invitation there to talk about me let's talk about me okay let's talk about you i think the issue is you that's the thing with modern day racism it totally absolves every one of their own personal problems like you know no i don't have a problem with the way that you look this is you know

the rebuttal it's i actually have a problem with you your unique individual set of traits and personality but you can always pull the rip court on never having to take accountability for you by saying it's some larger problem with your group this is an interesting movement by the way to always say you're smarter than everybody else that's credentialism by the way well i'll be curious what did she uh major in i'd like to know that major i got to pull that you know she doesn't say her major here but she went to ohio state university um she was a member of the delta sigma theta sorority. Okay.

Well, that's not helping. She got her master's in education. Education. With a specialty in public interest law focusing on housing rights, voting, and democracy, and racial equity from Brooklyn Law School. This is not a high-paying education, nor, by the way, one that I would say is, allows you to run the flagpole up of smartest person in the room. Sorry, don't think those majors do that.

Don't think those focus in law school does. She didn't look around the room to see. if she was actually the smartest. Scott Jennings is pretty smart. This is the thing. This is the thing. Okay. This is what AOC did.

Did with, this is just, all you have to have is attitude. I give you AOC. This dude is probably one of the most unintelligent billionaires I have ever met or seen, our witnessed, which, you know, you can probably even glean that from watching these people on TV.

anyways all of that is to say is that they don't do their homework the danger in not in the lack of intelligence and the lack of expertise um that Elon has did she say anyways I think she did yeah anyways he's this dude this billionaire this dude that puts that catches rockets you know unintelligent developed the electric car industry he's one of the most dumbest guys that I can think of anyways he runs five billion dollar companies

Elon Musk is dumb anyways hey do you guys ever read Iron Rand it just reminds me the fountain head in the fountain head you should it's really good

but like there's a character in their name Ellsworth Toey there's like an architectural critic at a newspaper and his whole job is to tear down genius the minute he sees genius Howard Rourke his job is to tear it down what is aOC but someone sitting there ready to tear down genius by the way speaking of entertainment three episodes into american prime evil yeah love it love it all right good to know already down the wikipedia

rabbit hole re-familiarizing myself with the shoshone tribes my wife makes fun of me she's like why do you have to look up everything you watch like that's how you learn i already read about the meadows massacre it's a real deal mormons massacred some of the pioneers they were pretty tough I mean, I love anything, yeah, but some of it's, you know, it's, it's fictional, but it's also like, it's rooted in history. And that's what was fascinating for me, by the way. I wanted to know how much of this is historical fact, like the Meadows massacre is, is a real thing. It's fascinating.

The Utah War, the Mormon Wars of the 18, what is it, 30s, 40s, 50s, and then, okay, yeah, I'm sorry, 1850s, yeah, 1850s. And then I got super in this morning, I was like, I want to, learn more about the Shoshone Indians. So I was all in on the Shoshonis. And I forgot that the Comanche's, you know, I'm a big Comanchee guy. The Comanches are actually, they were once Shoshone. So they migrated from the Great Basin over the mountains down south to Texas. Anyway, rabbit hole, great. Watch American Prime Evil. Super violent, but watch American Prime Evil. And read the fountainhead. In the end, these people, these geniuses like AOC and CNN lady, are here to tell you that the shadow

government is not USAID, the shadow government is not the G14s, the shadow government is not the 5,000 of 38,000. FBI employees investigating January 6th, the shadow government is the guy looking right now to streamline the government. Be afraid of the authoritarian, Elon Musk, says the most highly educated people on CNN panels and Instagram. Anyways, I got to go. Because coming up next, Congress. Mr. Andy Barr on banking and the shadow government. Next from the Will Cain Show. How deep is the shadow government?

Let's get into that. Here on the Will Kane show streaming live at foxnews.com, the Fox News YouTube channel on the Fox News Facebook page. Hit subscribe at Apple, Spotify, or on YouTube. In fact, let's ask Congressman Andy Barr about everything going on and what's being exposed right now within the United States government.

Congressman, great to see you. Thanks for being here. Will, great to be with you. Congratulations on your new show. Oh, thank you so much. What do you make of all this right now? You know, honestly, it's a little bit hard because there's kind of some fake news

going around, like, at one point, I think I believed that they were funding a Lord of Rings trilogy season three, but it wasn't true. So there's a lot of stuff flying around about what was actually funded by USAID, but I don't want that to undercut because there was some crazy stuff going on,

like a trans opera and Columbia. How unique is whatever was going on to USAID? My suspicion is, Congressman, if I looked under the hood of any government department, and I'm not excusing it, I'm saying dig deeper, we're going to get just all kinds of incredible nonsense where we're flowing U.S. taxpayer dollars. I mean, what's great is the lefts and the media's minds are blowing.

It takes Trump derangement syndrome to a whole new level. And this guy, they can't keep up with them because it's out-of-the-box thinking and ideas, whether it's Greenland, Gulf of America, whether it's 40,000 less federal bureaucrats, central planning our lives, whether it's thinking outside of the box on Gaza, or, like you said, the dismantling USAID, which not only is the deep state, but also a really dumb diplomatic agency, right? If the job of USAID is to make friends, like, why is putting on and using taxpayer funds to fund an LGBT opera in the Middle East making friends?

That's ridiculous, the waste, you know, sending condoms to Gaza. I mean, this was a great example of this president dismantling the deep state. how deep can we go so the buyout offer i think is today for like 40,000 different government employees the CIA buyout i think we're all CIA employees offered a buyout like the whole thing my point is there's two levels to this there's the amount that we spend that creates the leviathan and then there's the service of the leviathan what does it actually do you use the word deep state I think that's true. I've used the word permanent Washington.

And I think it creates this level of government that's unaccountable to the political process. No matter who the president is, no matter your two-year cycle as a congressman, they sort of remain. G-14s, G-13s doing their job. So I'm real curious, or not doing their job, doing a job. But I'm just curious how deep we can go.

I wonder how far Trump can go. Well, I think he can do a lot. And I think this is what's so refreshing about. Doge. And of course, Elon is a genius, and he's reviewing processes and systems in government that have failed and they're unaccountable and that waste money and that dishonor the American taxpayers. But I think beyond that, it's created this refreshing sense that, hey, the American people are in charge again of their own government. And so we're getting, as members of Congress, our constituents giving us great ideas about waste, fraud, and abuse that they've seen in government

or mismanagement that they've seen or malpractice. in government that they've seen, and then we get to transmit that to Doge to promote real reform. But in the financial services area, I mean, there's no better example of an unaccountable, non-transparent, and frankly, authoritarian bureaucracy than this agency called the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. This was the brainchild of Elizabeth Warren in the Dodd-Frank law, and it's immune from accountability in so many different ways. The Supreme Court corrected it in part a few years ago when the Supreme Court said that the director is removable at will, the president, and thank goodness, because now we no longer have

Roeachopra at the helm, and Scott Besson is now the acting director. But this is a, you talked about Ein Rand. I mean, this is, this is right out of Atlas Shrug, this agency. And they politicize the allocation of credit. They go on these fishing expeditions with what they call civil investigative demands where they just show up to some small business with an army of auditors and they ask for documents and private personal financial information of the customers, harass the business owners. And their whole MO is to ban financial services and products that are in demand. Far from protecting consumers, this agency hurts consumers and is a very Orwellian agency.

So this is a great example of how we can dismantle the bureaucracy in Washington with Donald Trump. How big is the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau? Like, I don't know how to quantify it. Their budget, the number of employees. So here's the thing. The budget, oh, it's thousands of employees. Most of it is Washington, D.C. Mick Mulvaney tried to move it, but, you know, frankly, it was evil genius in the way that they constructed the agency,

making it exempt from the congressional appropriations process. one of the very few self-funded agencies. They get their funding, and it's now, it's about $800 to $900 million a year. They get their funding not through the appropriations process, which would entail meaningful oversight by the American people through their elected representatives in Congress. No power the purse. Instead, they get their funding through basically an opaque funding formula

from the Federal Reserve. They just request the money from the Fed, and the Fed has to give it to them. so there is no meaningful oversight there's no accountability through the appropriations process and they do whatever they want harassing the american people and eliminating services and products that the american people need and want so it's a very well this was just as a as a reminder history listen this was um after the 2009 financial crisis this this governmental agency created right right and like you keep describe you you keep describing you you keep that and I can see how that would have been sold. I'm not going to grant Elizabeth Warren ever. I really not. I'm not trying to be a partisan. I don't grant Elizabeth Warren good intentions. And I remember Barney Frank, you know, and didn't have a ton of great respect for him, but I do remember everyone after 09 and like, you know, the fear over the collateralization of credit default swaps and on and on and on and on,

these inventive financial structures that, you know, we've seen the movies that they've made since then, you know, turning these things into a you know financial atomic bombs that if you sold it to the American public that's what they think it's doing is that not what it's doing and that is not what it's doing that is absolutely not what it's doing actually if the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau actually wanted to do something productive they would go after fraud fraud is the number one financial consumer protection issue that's out there but instead of actually going after fraudsters they're going after legally operating businesses

banks, lenders who are actually providing important services to the American people. Let me give you a perfect example of how the CFPB is really hurting Americans. So there's this provision in the Dodd-Frank law, Section 1071. What is that? It's a small business data collection requirement. So the statute provided for 13 data fields that the Bureau was supposed to collect from typically small banks, community financial institutions, credit unions and banks that originates small business loans.

And they're supposed to collect demographic data on the applicant for the small business applicant for the loan. Well, Chopra, the director of the CFPB under Biden, promulgated this massive regulation, costly burdensome regulation that required the banks to collect 81 data fields before they even filled out the loan application. So now they have to collect information on the sexual orientation,

of the small business owner. They have to collect information on their race, on their national origin, on their religious preferences, on all kinds of information that's totally immaterial to the creditworthiness of the small business. And so guess what's going to happen? Number one, you're going to offend a whole lot of small businesses who are applying for a loan who will assume that the reason why they were denied the loan was because they filled out that they're a minority or they filled out that they are a lesbian or whatever they have to fill out and provide that or they're not right or that they're not correct uh and uh and the creditworthiness of the borrower becomes a much lesser important issue basically the cfpb wants to collect all this data on these small

businesses so that they can harass them and then they want to collect the information on the lenders to say that the lenders are racist or homophobic or whatever the reason that they will that they will cite to go after these these lenders but the bottom line it's it's so offensive and the result will be actually that small community banks will exit small business lending altogether. That doesn't help the minority own small business. This is the kind of ridiculousness that the CFPB is doing. And we thought that in this country that in the words of Martin Luther King, we were going to go to a character-based society where the color of your skin didn't matter.

But now the CFPB, the only thing that seems to matter are these immutable characteristics of people, and it's just awful that they would politicize access to credit, especially for these... Hey, Congressman, you seem pretty passionate about community regional banks. You know, I've seen you talk about it a lot. In my career, community, you know, small regional banks have been important. Numerous businesses that I have started, have relied on loans from community and regional banks. It's, you know, like everyone out there, you use big banks because you go to the ATM machines, but you need to, I've always had a relationship with a local banker, and that's the point.

It's a relationship-based business, you know, do I know you, do you know me? What do you say to a guy? Like, I've had him on the show several times, like Kevin O'Leary. Kevin O'Leary made the argument to me that they shouldn't be bailed out if they get in trouble. They should go away. They don't have a place that banking should basically evolve into whatever it's going to be, big five banks, big four banks, that, you know, they don't serve a valuable role in the modern economy, regional banks.

Yeah, what separates the U.S. economy from the rest of the world is that we have a diverse banking sector. We do have big banks, Wall Street banks, and they serve multinational companies. They engage in capital markets activities. They project American economic power overseas. They actually serve a national security role because they provide us visibility into the financial system globally, and they help us with the reserve currency status of the dollar. But then we have regional banks.

And those regional banks serve large employers, municipalities, big manufacturers. But then we have these community banks. And in community banks are, like you said, character-based loans, relationship-based loans, loans that, frankly, the regional banks, the big regional banks and the big Wall Street banks, they won't deal with the small farmer or the Main Street business or the entrepreneur. The vast majority of entrepreneurship and new business formation in this country comes from those community banks that take a risk and provide that American dream capital that allows an entrepreneur to realize his or her dream. That's what creates the dynamism of our economy.

And what Elizabeth Warren doesn't appreciate and doesn't understand is that when you have a diverse ecosystem of community financial institutions around the country, that provides an actual counterweight for these too big to fail banks. We want more competition for the big Wall Street banks. And that's what community banks offer is competition and choice and more entrepreneurship and more seed capital. And that's what gives us our competitive advantage globally in our economy because we have all this dynamism from, you know, capital that's being deployed in the local communities. Right. I think every step of my life, there's something that's been enabled by a community or small regional bank, one or the other, both. Right.

all right last question you like and i'll just say this will and will if i could go ahead what what's what's going on with community banks what's going on is that dot frank and all the regulations from the biden era regulators and the obama era regulators is suffocating these community banks and we're losing community banks because of triple trickle down regulation one size fits all regulation wall street regulations wall street bank regulations should not apply to community banks We should have regulatory tailoring so that the size and complexity of the firm should really dictate what kind of regulation that banks should have. We need to deregulate the community banks and let them thrive and create that competition for the larger banks and also help create that access to capital that homeowners and entrepreneurs need to grow our economy. That's the real point here.

And so our focus with President Trump and his. new Treasury Secretary is going to be to unleash these community banks, make community banks great again. And then the question is, if they get in trouble, do you bail them out, though? Do you regulate them, but then you bail them out if they get in trouble? Okay. No, no, we don't know. We're opposed to bailouts, and you don't need a bailout for community banks because they're

not systemic. We want risk-taking. That's capitalism. But when they're not too big to fail, if one community bank makes a mistake, you don't have to bail them out. right okay last question on these out-of-the-box thinking stuff um it's it was the big story yesterday it's gone nowhere and you mentioned it you know the gaza thing i started off with the comments from viewers today because we had a big conversation debate on it yesterday it's not easy congressman

i mean like the whole premise which i've appreciated of america first is to focus on america spin money spin energy spin focus here in america um this sounds on its face like oh my god you know we've done this in Iraq, we've done this in Afghanistan. This actually feels like that on steroids. Why would I dive into that into the pool? That sounds terrible. But I have learned not to dismiss Donald Trump and to appreciate that maybe there is an out-of-the-box

solution to the world's most intractable problem. So I struggle. Do you think this is, you know, a real out-of-the-box solution? We'll call it Riviera Gaza. You've got to give Donald Trump credit for thinking outside of the box. I mean, this has been an intractable problem in the Middle East for a long time. But Donald Trump, we know Donald Trump.

President Trump is no neo-conservative nation builder. He's, he, his press secretary. Totally, I believe that. This is not boots on the ground. This is not American tax dollars at stake. This is not USAID. What this is is actual, you know, creative thinking. And look, you know, some of the apologists for the terrorists and the anti-Semites in our college

campuses, they always talk about a two-state solution. Well, you know what? We had a two-state solution, and the two-state solution was Gaza. And we allowed Gaza to create a terror haven. So this idea of saying, no more to terrorists, demilitarized Gaza, let the, let capitalists pour in, you know, actual resources and develop, not just occupied, but develop Gaza to give Gaza, you know, a new lease on life where it becomes, you know, a magnet for capital and for redevelopment so that you actually create the opportunity for peace and stability there instead of a enclave for Hamas. I think that's, that is creative thinking. Now, is it going to be easy? No, it's going to be very, very complicated and difficult. But there is no real solution for Gaza

unless you abandon this crazy two-state solution idea that only just creates a safe haven for terrorists. And if you don't recognize that we need to demilitarize Gaza. And I think free market capitalism is a solution for everything. You actually create prosperity when you attract private capital to actually develop a future for that place. All predicated on you're dealing with a people that want prosperity. Okay. I'm just putting it out there. I once said the solution to Iraq was Starbucks and McDonald's. It wasn't. Okay. When you have a people, who believe in a nihilistic viewpoint of the world and a zero-sum game against a against their enemy, you can't pacify them with a craps table.

Well, that's true. But the Israelis do want democracy and peace and stability. And I've been to Samaria. You know, the Palestinians call it the West Bank. But in Samaria, there is an industrial zone called the Barcon Industrial Zone. It's run by the Israelis. Israeli law is in charge, Israeli provides the security, but Arabs and Jews work together in for-profit enterprises, and there's never been any kind of violence there, because guess what? Arabs and Jews working together in for-profit capitalist businesses under the security, stability of Israeli law, that actually creates the conditions for peace, and Jews and Arabs living side-by-side peacefully.

that is the model for the future of that place and you know there are Palestinians who don't want anything to do with Hamas but when Palestinians are living amongst Hamas that's when you create this Gaza safe haven for terrorism and that's why we had October 7th you don't have October 7th and the Barcon Industrial Zone or the villages near that and that's run by Israel all right it's interesting uh as is the conversation over banking in the shadow government here congressman andy bar thanks so much for being with us today on the will cage hey great great great to be with you will okay we'll see you around thank you so much uh i got a lot of your comments uh from the start of the show want to get to some of those here's a tease george kucharo says

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on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Please hit subscribe at Apple, Spotify, or on YouTube. Two days you asked me a question during the commercial break. I invite you to ask me that question again. All right. So I go back and forth. I go back and forth on this when this thing's happened. Now that Luca Donchik's gone from the Mavs, he's on the Lakers,

do you want to root for him and see him do well, or do you hope he does poorly and not very good in the Lakers suck? It's really, really tough, emotional decision. Exactly. So I won't root against Luca. There's one caveat to that statement. I'm going to take it one step at a time. I won't root against Luca.

Now, here's the asterisk. I felt it, and I know that everybody else felt it in Dallas. As much as we love Luca, we hated how much he complained to the referee. Hated it. So did we all. I know you did. And the only reason it was just forgivable is because he was my guy, right? That was the only reason I could look over it.

Well, because he's my guy. But it was brought up this week. God, it's going. Like everyone, I've been at soccer games. games this week on the I'm probably on a soccer sideline right now I'll have to go at least four times a week and so there's a lot of things that are discussed and this has obviously been a big point of discussion and that that is brought up like everybody's mad but everybody brings up they all bring up his conditioning more than I do I do not care I can't why does that matter to you he was

the casual fan he was slow on defense in that finals man like he was getting blown by it was liability. The Mavericks did not lose because of Lucas defense. I don't know. They did not lose because of Lucas defense. Just their entire defense. Well, they were third in the league in defense. I mean, before you run into this buzzsaw, make sure you're sharp, because I got my stuff

down. They were third in the league in defense after the trade midseason. So are they a bad? I don't even want to say it now because. Are they a number one defensive team now? I don't want to give you this because you made me mad. But the Celtics were really good. and the Celtics were better than the Mavs, period.

So I don't really, it's not like, oh, now we need to take a long look in the mirror and worry about Luca's defense. Get out of here, man. And I don't care how fat or not fat he is. But I do care about how much he complains about the refs. So that does have the, the point of that is, it does have the opportunity to sour me on Luca a little bit

now that he's not my guy. Like, it's a bad look. But I'll never root against Luca, and I will never root for the Lakers. But you won't watch the Lakers? A Lakers game to watch Luca play? Yeah, no, I will do that. Okay.

But, like, say it's the Lakers in NBA finals. Depends on who they're playing. Let's say it's Lakers Celtics this year. Lakers'Lakers. I'll root for. I'll root for Luca and the Lakers. Really? Yeah.

Fascinating. I would be the complete opposite. That's so sad. Well, but Luka didn't force his way out. That's the difference. Yeah, that's true. You're right. Do we know that?

If Luca had done this, Luca cried, reports are he cried. You know? Like, there's nothing he's done to sourer the relationship. The management of the Mavericks

soured the relationship. So, and I don't quit on the Mavericks, I can't, I've never quit on a team. It's like, I mean, I've never quit on a team.

Never. Because I don't really think it's a thing you're allowed to quit on. You know what I mean? Like, I think you got out, it's a birthright.

Yeah. And I was trying to think of a comparison for me so I'm a Packers fan so when Aaron Rogers left I was like do I support him with the Jets and I was kind of a little happy to see him not too well with the Jets you know what the only reason I don't want I would want them to do well is I want that I'll look at it and be like that

should be Dallas's you know what I mean yeah Lucas should be doing that Dallas I think he looks weird and yellow I see all the pictures he looks weird in a Lakers uniform he needs a tan Tommy smokes too for real Yeah. Tommy Smoke's been an interesting comparison, and I was initially thinking about this trade the other way because it involved your Texas Rangers. He said he was the world's biggest Alfonso Soriano fan.

And when the Yankees traded him for A-Rod, it, like, killed him, and he hated A-Rod. That's how I felt about Cunow. I don't totally see it. I mean, well, Soriano and Luca aren't comparable. But that takes me to my topic here today. Soriano was a 40-40 guy. and he had like 400 career at home runs

he was very very good I'm not even a Yankee fan I hate the Yankees The audacity Are you arguing to me that Alfonso Soriano Was the Luca Donchitz of Major League Baseball At a time maybe At a time he was like 25

He was young he had his whole career in front of him Alfonso Soriano was at best The Anthony Davis in this scenario And even in this exact trade A rod was the Luca of this trade. Soryano was the Anthony Davis. I don't even know what point you baseball nerds are trying to make, but it fails.

It's not even close. Alfonso, Soriano, Yankees fans, Yankees fans were devastated that they got A-Rod and had to trade away Alfonso, Soriano. Get out of here. Not a locker room. A-Rod killed the chemistry. Yeah, not a locker room guy. He runs himself out of the league in a couple

years, and you'll be like, wow, maybe Soriano was, you know. Alphonseo Soriano. right now. This is the only show in the world comparing Alfonso Sorano Luca Donchich, and it's so stupid. Hey, you need an angle, you know? This takes me to my point.

Luca, one of, I'm going to say, four pillars of a franchise in the NBA. Luca, Dallas, Yokic, Denver. Who else is on this list? If you want to say Tatum, Boston, you can, fine. Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown, no.

Do I have sports morons working with me? Like, what is going on? The point is, these guys are the franchise. These guys are the franchise. Yeah. Yonis and Milwaukee. Great one. Actual points for tinfoil on this one.

Which is, it's Yonis. I'm not a basketball guy, so I don't know. But the point is, it's getting common now. a seat of oh step in golden state step step is golden state you know um if if these guys are movable and these guys especially when they're as young as 25 it makes you wonder like can you really invest in saying someone is our guy can you invest in a player who is tied up in the same almost the same level as the brand the NFL is a brand sport you root for laundry and logos right like i would argue luca had a bigger connection to the maves than dac does to the cowboys and

Dack's really big with the Cowboys. But there's a lot of different factors at play here that make it so it's more devastating to lose Luca than it would have been to lose DAC. My point is, but get used to it. This is the NBA. Like, I'm not sure Luca's a Laker for the next 10 years. I'm not sure that's true. And I'm not sure Yonis stays a buck, you know, and on and on and on.

And ever since Magic and Bird and then Jordan, we got used to thinking that that was kind of how it went. And it hasn't. Kobe and Dirk and Tim Duncan were the last ones to do that, right? Everyone else moved. Shaq moved, a ton, right? Everyone moved. And it hasn't yet happened in the NFL to the same level, meaning the top, top, top

quarterbacks. I'm not talking about your Alfonso Soriano quarterbacks. I'm talking about your top quarterbacks, right? Mahomes, Josh Allen, they don't move historically until the last tail end of their career, maybe the last year or two. right question is does the NFL start to look like the NBA at some point it does with at some point for wide receivers every position but quarterback yeah yep totally and but and we need to acknowledge it's money motivated in large part and we wonder about this every year how much money

of your cap can you give to a quarterback we wonder about that every year right but not that often. Like the Matt Stafford Jared Gough deal is rare. That's rare in the NFL, right? But that's an NBA style move. That one, that's why that trade was so weird. That's an NBA style trade where two teams like, let's trade our guy, our guy for each other. And I'm just not wondering if there's not more of that in the future, the Gough, Stafford, NBA style thing. I don't think it'll apply to Mahomes, because my homes, I say that, but then I never thought it would apply to Luca either. You know, it could work potentially. Like, depending, so, like, if you have quarterbacks, like, say, like, a Bryce Young and you need some, or, you know, Tua, those kind of trades where change of scenery might make sense would be more often something that would be done.

But I would go up a level. But it's, like, a Mahomes isn't moving. And so there's a level between, Patrick, that's more interesting. I agree. Those guys, like, young and Tua, you almost think it's going to happen. and I thought it would have happened a year ago, right? I'm talking about, honestly, I'm kind of talking about the DAC level, right? Like, DAC is the face of the franchise, has been for a while, makes a ton of money.

At some point, do you kind of go, like in the NBA, don't think it's fair to say he already would have been traded in the NBA. Yeah. Like a level star of that, like Chris Middleton, just got traded. So he already would have gotten traded in the NBA, but he doesn't happen in the NFL. You know, and so that level. which I'd put Goff and Stafford in that level. I'd put who else in that level?

Drew Breeze is an interesting case, but that's a... Burrow? That's a special thing. Drew Breeze was interesting, but that's because of Philip Rivers. You know, the thing about Burrow is, no, you'd say... But look, Burrow and Luca are pretty good comps, actually. Took their teams to the Super Bowl slash NBA finals and lost. A ton of hope locally attached to them.

Like a bowl. A ton of upside. still believed to be out there, right? Is Joe Burrow 25? He's probably about 25, right? Yeah, he was drafted in 2020, which would have made him a junior and senior. 28 years old.

28, really? I think he stayed in college a long time. Yeah, he did. Because he started at Ohio State. Yeah, 2018. I like that comp. Joe Burrow to Luca. And by the way, there's a list out right now.

Do you have that image that I sent you? I could put it up in my studio. Yeah, if you can put it. I have it. I don't have it to put it. Oh, it's a fascinating list. Take a look at this. This is really interesting. This is quarterbacks who lost their Super Bowl debut. Okay? Went to the Super Bowl, and they lost in their first appearance in the Super Bowl. And it's not impressive about what happens afterwards, right? So I'm going to read them to you. I'll start back in time Stan Humphreys

Neil O'Donnell Drew Bledsoe Chris Chandler Steve McNair Kerry Collins Rich Gannon Jake the Loam Donovan McAbb

Matt Hasselbeck Rex Grossman Colin Kaepernick Cam Newton Matt Ryan It gets more impressive starting with Cam Newton Cam Newton wow

I mean McNabb and Hasselbe had good careers but never went back right never went back to Super Bowl none of these guys never went back all of these guys never went back including newton and ryan and golf

now those guys had good careers but it goes on gropolo burrow hurts now hurts is about to make his second appearance in the super bowl and that's why people are talking about this

and brook purdy oh he's on the list right yeah lost his debut right yeah so my point is Joe Burroughs on a list that's not very good, right? The only one that's very good on this list,

like meaning you want this to happen in your career is Jalen Hertz, lose and then make it back. So the point I'm getting at with Joe Burrow is, could you see a Lucca dants style trade at some point? You know what I mean? And the answer is probably no, but the NFL, but the thing is the NFL, the whole game is, it's so hard to get your quarterback.

And once you got your guy, you got your guy, and you don't want to be in the quarterback wilderness. But you know what else is hard in the NBA to say, we've got one of the four or five best players in NBA, a guy that we know by himself can win us a playoff series. Forget a game, right? And most people believe can win you the title. The Mavericks had that.

And there's only about three or four guys that are on that list, that you've got the guy that you know can be the best player on a championship team. That's the NFL quarterback. That's Joe Burrow. Everybody believes Joe Burrow is good enough to win you. a Super Bowl. He's getting better, too. What if tomorrow, Cincinnati, we woke up

in Cincinnati, traded Borough for Alfonso Soriano? There would be riots in the streets. Depends on if he starts eating his dessert. Soriano had one of the best arms in the outfield. I mean, Soriano is just a generational player. He could probably figure it out.

I mean, he was a top two or three fantasy players for years. You know what the Luca comp is? Also, it's Josh Allen. It's Josh Allen. Like, what if the bill is? bills traded Josh Allen right now. I like Joe Burrow more, but yeah, sure.

So should the bills, here's the, here's the comp. What if the bills traded Josh Allen to the Rams from Matt Stafford and a first round pick? That's, that's insane. That's kind of what the Mavericks did. No, it's not. What are you talking about? Matt Stafford's not Anthony Davis.

Kind of. You think Davis is better than Stafford? Yes, in terms of comparison. Stafford's won a Super Bowl. Davis has won a Super Bowl. Sure, but right now, as we're talking about, as a trade that happened right now. They both probably have a similar amount of years left in their career. Stafford's old.

Yeah. Everett's like 39. You can pocket pass until you're pretty darn old nowadays. Is Stafford 39 already? Is he really? 39? I think he's already. No.

Steph is 37. Oh, sorry, he's 36, 36. 36. He's about... Tomorrow he turns 37, though. Happy birthday, Mr. Stafford. which i which is exactly same page as me if you see him down there well not you know to say happy birthday stafford and anthony josh allen i think josh allen for matthew stafford and change is is is

lucca donchich i'd argue luc is above look is above josh allen though josh allen's never been to a super yeah yeah totally luc is absolutely no luke is above josh allen for sure josh allen is one of the top two players in the NFL. Like, just because he's running into the Chiefs and has a bad defense this year, Patrick, Luca is extremely, no. Luca is the only player in NBA history,

including Michael Jordan and LeBron James, to make first team all-NBA every year he's in the league. Every year. It's a totally different sport. Luca is a triple-double machine. He's breaking every record. I'm sorry.

Josh Allen isn't on Luca Don. It's just planet. Agreed. Not on his planet. I don't know about it. And this course, I'm going to end this show because now that's twice. It's Alfonso Soriano and Josh Allen. I think Patrick's two for two.

Josh Allen's amazing. I would take Josh Allen in a heartbeat. He ain't no Lucas. Would you rather have Doc Prescott or Josh Allen for the next 10 years? Where did that debate come from? Yeah, let's end the show. Where did that debate come from? You want to see how much.

of a Homer you are. I'd take Josh Allen. That's not the... Let's in the show. You guys have made me mad. All right, that's going to do it for us today here on the Will Kane show. We'll see you on a special episode tomorrow

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