Will Cain Country - Republicans Got Fauci's COVID Phone. Finally, Answers? (ft. Vince August & Scott Spiezio)

Episode Date: August 6, 2026

Dr. Anthony Fauci’s COVID era phone is now in the hands of Congress as questions about the virus’s origin just keep piling up. Former Judge and Current Comedian Vince August joins the program to break down everything we know about Fauci’s involvement in misleading the public about the pandemic, from the true efficacy of the mask mandates to the government's constant flip flopping on the origins of the coronavirus. Plus, 2x World Series Champion and Author of ‘The Hardest Comeback,’ Scott Spiezio joins Will, Vince, and The Crew to revisit his past struggles with substance abuse, and share what ultimately led him to recovery. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Vince August and Scott Spizio with us today here on Wilcane Country. Wilcane Country streaming live at the Will Cain Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page here for you as always at Spotify or on Apple. Judge and comedian Vince August comes adorned in a California. Anaheim Los Angeles Angels jersey. What's up, Vince? Or say, well, look at you wearing the white shirt to show off your little tan. Look at you.

Make the tan look tan. I didn't put that together. That's good insight. He did his Bill Belichick vacation as Leonardo DiCaprio getaway with someone, half his age. Someone told me, I don't know what was going on where this guy was. Before the show starts, like. I'm doing my little intro, and I don't look up for a minute, and I look up, and okay, there's Dan, there's Pat.

Okay, Pat's in a gymnasium it looks like today. I'm not sure why. And then I see Vince in his Angels jersey, and I just kind of gave him a little nod as I'm talking. And he gave me a nod back, and I'm like, now I realize I'm nodding the Angels jersey, and he's nodding. Look at that thing. Look at that thing. It looks like he's still on vacation. Look at you still at the beach.

Looks like an honorary Italian. Yeah. Yeah. I got the button. It's buttoned down too. If I was Italian, it would need to be like this. Where's the chain? The gold chain.

You need the gold chain. I know. I know. It's got to have a chain, too. Have you ever had body hair by the way or you always look like a teenage boy? What is that? Look at what are you talking about? He's got a hair of chest.

Oh, that's something there. She used it all down. He's a swimmer. It's what they do. They never grew back after swimming. Not once have I done a chain. Never been a chain guy. That's a big choice.

Blake's a big step. Not even one of those, what is it? What are the things called the puka, puka, b chain? Pooka shells. You didn't have the pukeshells? No, no, Connecticut. Oh, yeah, he definitely did. No, puca shill.

No way you did it. No shark tunes. You're with a pepper dine. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I did not ever have a pucashell necklace. Never. Never. No shark.

No shark tooth. None of that when you were out there. No, no shark tooth necklace. No chain. I'm trying to think if I ever wore something around my neck. No. No. Does that go with puka shell necklace, the frosted tip? Is that a, that's a pairing?

Yeah, an advisor. Yeah. For sure. No, no. Not a jewelry guy. Never, never wore a ring outside of a wedding ring. It's like Texas. He's got no watch, nothing.

Look at him. Yeah, I do wear a watch here and there, but it's not like I don't put it on every day. I did pierce my ear in high school. I did do that. Oh, my God. Which side? We need pictures right now. You just said that out loud.

Wow. That matters. I say everything out loud. What were you in a band? And yes, I shaved my legs in high school. Yes, I shaved my legs for swimming. Look at you. Yes, it happened.

I knew it. You're almost there. Pierced ear. I did one side, Patrick. I did the left side. That's the straight side. At least it was in the 90s. And you'll be tell you why I did it?

Yes. Is that wrong? Let's see. Is that wrong? Not until we find out why. Let's hear the why. The love side is the straight side. Boomerang.

Boomerang, Vince. Do you remember the movie Boomerang? Yeah. Eddie Murphy, of course. I was a teenager when that came out. I don't remember what year that would have been. Let's call it 91. I don't know.

And at that time, I think there had never been anyone smoother. that I'd ever seen than Eddie Murphy in Boomerang. Do you remember? I mean, he was like the smoothest character that ever existed. Every woman wanted him. He knew how to work. Remember, the movie was how he would juggle all these women and that he was such a ladies man, this and that.

And I don't know, he just walked through that movie like he was a different kind of dude than everyone else. I mean, and by the way, there was no white dudes in the whole movie. So there was no, like, direct ability to, relate. But he had that earring, that one earring. I was like, yeah. And it's amazing that you left that movie thinking, you know what? That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to go home. That's right. I'm going to turn into Eddie Murphy from Boomerang. That's exactly right, man.

The one earring is back. That movie. That movie, if you look back on it, okay? That movie, look up what year it is, Dan. Think about how ahead of its time that movie was. So, this one scene, you guys are too young, Patrick and Dan, right? Did you ever see Boomerang? No, I don't even know what that is. I don't believe so. Oh, great movie.

Oh, you've seen the scene, you've seen the scene with the father, the father from Friday. He's in that movie. So you remember Friday, the father? Oh, yeah. Craig, Craig, you know. John Witherspoon. He's in that movie, John Witherspoon. And you've probably seen the scene where he's like.

Hallie Berry. So that's Hallie Berry's breakout roll. Yeah. There's two, you got to coordinate. You remember the scene where you got to coordinate? Gerard, your father's got the mushroom belt. I don't stop with the mushroom belt. And then he shows the mushroom in lining of his jacket.

That one, and when he goes to Eddie, I can't say these words on TV, even though we were told yesterday we're no longer going to be bleeped out. Except the F word. Marcus, I hear your pee-wipped. You got to be p-wipped. You got to reverse it. You got to reverse it.

You haven't ever seen those scenes? No. I see Beverly Hill cop scenes a lot. I got to open for John of Carolines. Great guy. Got to work with him. Really? Yeah, good guy.

He's hilarious. Yeah. Was hilarious. But even that whole cast, you're looking at, you know, Martin Lawrence at the time of he was blowing up. Yeah, the whole cast was blown up. I think it holds up. Yeah. You could flip that on to him.

No doubt. Okay. I'll try it. And here's what I was saying about, but it was ahead of its time. So there's a famous scene in it. And I'm talking this is 30 years ahead of its time, maybe 25 years ahead of its time. So Martin Lawrence plays one of Eddie Murphy's best friends. And he's super like pro-black, like everything is racist.

Okay. And that's kind of the bit, the funny bit throughout the whole movie. And they're playing pool together. And he's explaining his theory that pool is a white supremacist. this game. And he's like, think about it. Sounds familiar. Think about it. Okay? The green turf is the earth. And the game is won by the white ball

knocking all the colored balls off the tables. And when does it culminate? When the white ball takes out the black ball, the eight ball. You know? And you're like, and it's hilarious and it's funny. And 25 years later, somebody probably wrote that exact article in all seriousness in Atlanta.

It's serious, though. Now it's serious. Now that's a class at Harvard now. Yeah. That's hilarious. I mean, that's so true. People say that seriously now. Yeah. It's a class in Harvard.

Yep. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. I did see that one. Unfortunately, this is not comedy. Dr. Anthony Fauci, as we all know, gave his testimony last week where he invoked the Fifth Amendment 111 times. The House Judiciary Committee this morning has voted to hold

Dr. Anthony Fauci in contempt. But paired with that realization now is the fact that the Senate as well apparently has possession of Dr. Anthony Fauci's COVID-era phone. So after Dr. Rand Paul, Senator Rand Paul, got a hold of Dr. Anthony Fauci's diaries. Now we have his phone, which the contents of which have not yet been released. But my suspicion, Vince, Dan, is that will be no less revelatory. What is on that phone? What kind of communications with pharmaceutical companies? What kind of communications with members of the media?

That promises, I think, to be equally explosive for Fauci. Yeah, I mean, listen, it's a federal phone like the computer. You know, everyone's thinking, diarrhea. I think we have to also let people know what diary is. It was his entries into his work computer. You know, it's not him literally sitting on a bed like a 16-year-old girl writing in a book. That's not as fun. And yeah.

So, and the same thing with the phone. I mean, look, the problem is with all of this, nothing's going to come of it because they're not going to get the 60 votes to get a full contempt. Here's what ultimately I want to see. All right, you've got the phone, you got the computer. If there is a smoking. Hold on the 60 votes. Rand Paul doesn't believe you need that. He has, with the Judiciary Committee, sent it straight to the DOJ.

You're right. There is an open question. Does a contempt vote have to go to a full House vote and then to a Senate vote? But they're of the belief that's not necessary that this goes straight from the House Judiciary Committee to the DOJ for potential prosecution. Listen, Pat can back me up on this. We had a great guest on the show last week. We talked about all of the mistakes, his legal team. Who was it, Pat?

Who was on the show last week that we nailed this? That would be Vince August. Yeah, that's right. All right. So we had him on the show last week. Nice setup. That was good. And listen, here's the thing, though, Will, and this is what I want to see.

I think this is what people want to see. If you're not going to get money back from this guy from all of the, where he put in for all of these bids on these awards and everything else, if there's a tie to the pharmaceutical companies, great. You know what? Let's start bringing in some CEOs from Pfizer. Let's bring in CEOs from Modern. Let's bring in the people that were spreading this information of, if you take the shot when it goes from person to person to person,

it gets to the person who's vaccinated, it dies. When are we going to see those people come in on top of this? Because if this is just going after Fauci to embarrass him, mission accomplished, great. But now you have to actually accomplish something for the people and go after the pharmaceutical companies. If we're really going to do something with this, then let's prosecute it because don't,

forget the pharmaceutical companies got money from the government and then charge the government back to give out this vaccine. So, you know, there's other money there. There's other blood money there. Let's go after everybody if that's going to be the case. Let's actually get something done. I think the actually getting something done is holding the biggest villain of the COVID era accountable, and that is Dr. Anthony Fauci. I see you nodding along to both of us, Patrick, so I want to know what your judgment is here. But yeah, look, far be it for me to be an apologies for the pharmaceutical companies, but what am I supposed to do? Be upset to the pharmaceutical companies produced a vaccine in record time that was demanded of them by the government and then in turn

expected to make a profit. Now, if they lied about the risk profile of the vaccine, that changes the equation. But one thing I do know is that Fauci was an active liar about the risk profile of the vaccine and active participate in pushing it on to everyone. He's not alone. You have leaders of the CDC and the FDA at the time as well. That needs to be held accountable. And I think, and I think the personally, for me, I don't, I saw a video yesterday

a mashup of the way the media treated this, and I know it's so easy to just go media because it's an abstraction. I don't want it to be an abstraction. I want individual people who said this stuff, and the montages that you can find that were going around in the past

week and a half are horrific. I think that those people should never again. be hired with a microphone. I know there's no such criminal prosecution or anything like that, but if there's a bit of integrity in this business, the way those people were talking, I'm talking about the stuff about don't treat the unvaccinated in hospitals, that they're not normal people. All this stuff, no, man, I can't turn around and now take you seriously on the war in Iran.

I can't take you seriously on anything. There are certain things that one can do to burn all credibility, okay? And it's not about always being right. I have gotten plenty of things wrong, okay? But it's about the fervor with which you go about prosecuting your fellow Americans with certainty and little evidence. And I'll just give you two examples. The way you talked about the unvaccinated and the way you treated Jussie Smollay. Those two stories into themselves should disavow you of the ability to have a microphone in the future.

Yeah, but somebody told Rachel Maydow. Somebody told the people on the view. Somebody was telling all of these people on CNN. If you take the Vax, it goes from person to person to person, it gets to the person that was vaccinated. And it stops. Again, Pat, we had some- But that makes you a stenographer. Yeah, but makes you a stenographer.

But who told them? Not a critical thinker. No, but come on, Will. We know these people. We know that they have meetings. We know that they're told. Look, there's a montage of clips of, what is it, like 50 windows where the news people are repeating the same thing over and over again. We know.

And listen, we know what happens in Washington, too, where they test out certain phrases. Pat, who was the guest last week that brought this up? Who was that? That would be Vince August. Yeah. We talked about this last week. And the expert nailed it. I want to know who the person was that gave the order.

Listen, you can get the person that pulls the trigger. That's fine. Who gave the order is the person that I... Those are the people that I want. Fauci. Fauci. If that's who it is, great. The buck stops with him.

I think there's more people that were given this order. I think there's people, and again, go after the pharmaceutical companies. Above him? Above him? Or the people that he was getting money from, getting these grants from? Who is involved in this thing? I just don't think that this guy, who was this government employee, was the mastermind of COVID. This guy had the whole world wrapped her.

No, I want to go to the Wuhan lab. I want all China responsible for this. You can't just stop at one guy and make this. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's a lot of hands in that cookie jar. I hear you. I hear you. But for some reason, I feel like you are absolving Fauci.

I'm not. I'm not. I'm saying he's one of the players, but he can't be the only fall guy. Because then, you know, what happens? He's the lackey for all of the pharmaceutical company. He's the lackey for China. He's the lackey for everybody that was involved with this every step of the way. And again, I want to know if he was the guy giving the orders, that's fine, then we got him.

But I think there was somebody else, other people he's working with. You're not telling me this 80-year-old man pulled off this greatest scam. This was global. Will, this was global. This wasn't just a United States thing. Let's take a quick break. Don't go anywhere. We've got more with Vince August here on Will Kane Country. Visit BetMGM Casino and check out the newest exclusive.

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At Real Canadian Superstore, when you're ready, we're ready, with a whole world and more. And I think that also is people really love to have that scapegoat. And I think Epstein was that scapegoat for certain activities. and I think Fauci is kind of that scapegoat here. And so it's like, you know, if you can be the guy that you put all the sins on. Okay, hold on. Everyone else gets released. Let's let's, let's, I don't, I like this conversation, but there's things I don't like about it.

The things I don't like about this conversation is it feels like a lot of the conversations we have. It's abstract. It's like really amorphous and you can't. What are we talking about? Right. So let's go through it together. Okay. Step one.

there was Elably Genetic engineering Yeah gain of function There was gain of function Genetic engineering going on in Wuhan

Okay There is a step You could go further back than that And that is the why Okay, why What was it simply Gain of function Is a thing

That is, you know, criticized and legitimate at the same time Meaning there are legitimate people in scientific community that think this is something that we should be doing why so that we can get ahead.

What does gain and function mean for people, you know? You morph of, you basically know, Dan? Are you being genuinely curious? Are you trying to make me a better broadcaster? I'm curious. I don't actually know the exact definition of what that means. Okay, but that's why I asked you that question. I think that's fascinating because we're six-year removed from the critical issue of COVID,

and you don't know what that means. And I'm not indicting you. I think you're probably right. I need to explain it. And the fact that people are walking. around going, man, we did that thing. We wore masks and took a vaccine and don't even know why is so fascinating. Gain of function is a scientific process wherein you artificially supercharged viruses. You manipulate them, you change them, and you can create them in a way

where we don't have a current way to deal with it. So you can create a pathogen that has no cure. Well, it's artificially. It's the transferability. That's the gain in the function. So where it exists in the... Yeah, where it goes from person to person, animal to person. That's the gaining of the function. Well, viruses have two components that work against one another. Transmissibility and lethality. Right. So the more lethal it is, generally, the less transmissible it is, because you kill the host too fast, generally, to continue to move. The calm and cold or the flu is highly transmissible, but not lethal. So that's why it spreads through society so fast because everyone walks around sick

not knowing it. It's not that big of a deal. But the more lethal something gets, the conundrum or the oxymoron of it is, it actually dies itself out, right? Because if you kill your host too fast, you can't go from person to person to person. So what they do is they toy with those two things. And they start going, oh, can you make one transmissible and lethal? And keep doing this. and the reason, the stated legitimate reason why, is once we do that, then we come up with the vaccine to stop it. So their argument is we're getting ahead of potentially natural mutations. So if one day we wake up and there is a real natural mutation COVID, oh good, we've got this vaccine on the shelf that we've been holding on to because we've been doing gain of function for seven years. And now we're ready to roll it out and save humanity.

Longer than that. They were saying going back to the 90s that were working on this RM RNA vaccine type of thing. Right. Fair. Fair. Yeah. Now the converse side of that, Dan, is, and this is an ethical debate within the science community. It's like, why are you creating things that may never actually occur in nature?

Those mutations that you're doing, we have no reason to believe that it's going to just happen. So why are you making these vaccines for things that aren't likely to happen? unless you create them. Okay, so that's sort of the real debate. And that's, I've listened to podcasts on gain of function. It's really fascinating debate. It's a really fascinating debate. In the United States, was this during Obama or before,

we decided as a country, too risky, too dangerous. Obama. We're going to stop funding, we're going to stop funding gain of function. So we did. But there was loopholes. It was like, we're not going to do it in America. But maybe you can do it in other places, other. other countries.

And so the story is, but still I think they put a stop to that too. You weren't supposed to be using American government money to go somewhere else to do it. And so the story is Fauci, in partnership with Peter Dawzik, what was the name of his company? It was out of New York, Eco Health Alliance, was funneling money to Wuhan to do gain of function research. Gotcha. And that's documented. That's documented. There is a money trail going from the Fauci, NIH, NIA,

to EcoHealth Alliance to Wuhan, specifically Wuhan. And they were doing it in Wuhan. Now, there's another question, another debate out there is, well, Wuhan is a known military research center. So we're the Chinese doing this for weapons, bio-weapons. And then there's a leap we don't know yet. And then there's CIA implications. There's FBI implications as well with regards to what their knowledge was in all. of this and whether or not Fauci had any interaction.

I mean, it's a demission of impossible territory. Rand Paul asked plain blank. But this is real, Dan. This is all real. This is not conspiracy in any way. Now, don't get me wrong, six years ago, this was dismissed as crazy, bat-shit crazy talk. Racist. When it's well documented.

All of this. All of this is well documented. And by the way, it wasn't controversial. Like we talked about gain of function openly for a long time. And then COVID comes along. It's like, oh, this gain of function. thing. What are you talking about? That was kind of Fauci's response to Ram Paul. What are you talking? We've been having this scientific debate for 20 years on whether or not we should be doing gain of function.

And so what we do know is they were doing gain of function. Was it for weapons? Was it for vaccines? Whatever. We don't know that. But they were. And then, funny enough, this COVID outbreak happens across the street from the literal lab where they're doing this type of research. And then Fauci goes on the full court press of telling us all, no, it's zoonotic. Zoonotic means it transferred in the wet markets of Wuhan from a pangala, right? Not what they said or a bat, to a human. Somebody ate some bad bat meat. What was that other animal? The pangala or something?

Which, by the way, all of this was predicted in 2017 by Fauci, by people. people like Bill Gates. This was not like something that caught everyone blindsided. People were having these discussions out in the open three, four years before it happened. So you have this going on. Then there's this, hey, look, there's probably going to be an outbreak, conversation at all of these meetings that they're going to. And then it just so happens to happen. And then this operation warps speed, oh, look how fast we produced this vaccine. What do I mean, look how fast you produced it. You guys have been working on this for the last however many years that we don't even know. So you, it wasn't like all of a sudden you walked into a lab. Yeah, and it was just

like, all right, everybody, who's got an idea? No, you idea. Right. What do you mean? I did. Right. Right. That's, they run a simulation. They were running simulations. Yes. Of what would happen. Yeah. This is all, by the way, nobody in the three of us talking has said one thing controversial yet. Not one thing. If anybody's antennas are going up, if you're on left, not one thing that has been said yet is in any way controversial. In 2026. Of what we've said in 2026, correct. And by the way, to your point, Vince, in 2018, not controversial in 2018, not controversial in 2026. In this limited window period, it was conspiracy talk, okay? And so the only, I said 90%

Because I'm going to reserve 10% of what we're talking about, maybe 15, of we don't know the full motivations. We don't know. Were they practicing on weapons or were they trying to develop vaccines? We don't know how it got out of the lab. There are stories about it. Like, did a dude literally get infected in the lab? Did his suit burst? And then he walked outside and started infecting people in Wuhan.

Or was it intentional? And if it was intentional, why would it be intentional? That's the 10 to 15 percent we don't know. Okay? And then from there, Fauci's in massive cover-up mode, Dan, because he's implicated in funding Wuhan. So it can't be from a lab. It's got to be from the wet market, which we know now was a freaking lie. And everybody disagreed with him.

That's what came out of the diaries. Like most of the people involved in NIH and all that originally were like, no, that's not likely. And I think he even wrote it's not likely. And then he flipped. Yeah, he wrote it, right. And then he flipped and is like, that's crazy talk. That's crazy talk. And so, and then we just, and then we're off and running. On the masks, I will say this, he didn't know. He's an idiot. Nobody knew. But he decided to speak at his gospel and made everybody do it. Social distancing, he didn't know. But he spoke at his gospel and we all did. And then we're off and running. A little bit. At least you could say that. Six feet doesn't. Only visually, but it literally took like an hour of.

No, it's a visual thing. But, dude, it took an hour of doing your own research to realize masks were stupid as shit. Because the respiratory exchange of COVID, COVID real quick, Dan, isn't about droplets. Masks, you're right, stop droplets. Do you know what masks are for? So that surgeons don't drop droplets into open cavities while they're doing body's surgery with them open. It doesn't stop the respiration, much less a stupid cloth mask. It doesn't. And so COVID, like any virus, is so small. It's going through that stuff. Go ahead, Pat.

But even then, there are actually studies of surgeons from the 70s that compared surgeries with masks versus not with masks. And they actually found that there were higher infection rates with masks versus not masks. I believe it was Ian Miller at Alcock who had a book. Because I did a bunch of research on this. Yeah. Fighting the fight in the fight. Fauci would have known all this. So that's a legit question. Why push the masks? He would have known that.

Optics. He's not an idiot. I guess. I think they were throwing... Because they have to do something. They can't do nothing. Yeah, they were throwing bones to the public just to give some sense of security. If everyone's masked up, it looks like they're telling them to do something and that everyone's trying to do something.

That's what it was. Because we can't just sit here and do nothing. And then get the shot and the unwillingness to consider the risk profile, the cost-benefit analysis on the shots. And now you've, and I'm forgiving of Joe Blow, who's going around out there, who's been peddled as fear. I'm not forgiving now of the media whose job it is to be a critical thinker and instead saw their job as the enforcement mechanism of fear. And so that takes us full circle. That was 30 minutes on COVID that I did not think we would do. But the 10 to 15% that you mentioned, Will, that we don't know, that's what I'm saying.

I want those people prosecuted to. I don't want this just to be a Fauci thing. I want accountability for those 10 to 15% the people that you, because you just mentioned eco-health, you mention money. So where is all that coming? I want those people too. I don't want anybody getting a pass on this.

That's all I'm trying to say. I just don't think we will ever have a kind of ability. How much of what we just did? Really quick, Dan, how much of everything that we just did, did you not know out of curiosity? I knew most of it. Yeah. The gain of function was just always thrown around,

and I think some people talked about it like they didn't really know what they were saying. So I just wanted to be very specific in what we were talking about and no. But yeah, a lot of the things you guys say this was six years ago, I think in my head would be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, guys, calm down. Yeah, I'm sure you would have. Absolutely. This channel would get banned. Yeah, I mean, right.

We'd be scared to be de Montefat. A hundred percent, Vince. This show. I was worried about it right now. It would not have just been not just demonetized. It would have been taken down from YouTube. It had been taken down from Facebook.

Everything. It would have been taken down. Yep. But yeah, I mean, that's how far we come. Like, yeah, I was kind of a believer. I'm like, oh, well, this is the government. They're telling me what to do. Makes sense.

And, you know, didn't think for myself. But now, you know, listening to that it makes a lot of sense. Not everything. They mocked the idea of thinking for yourself. Do you remember that? They did the segments on how stupid do your own research is. They literally, the message was be afraid and don't think.

Be afraid, don't think. Trust the experts. But they went even steps. The experts taking the fifth. They win steps further because when you had a guy like Rogan talk about Ivermectin, not only did the attack Rogan, they doctored the film to make him look sick in the video. That's, I mean, you're going, forget about the extra yard. Think about what you're doing there.

See, there's got to be a meeting there that takes place that says, here's what we're going to do. Put a filter on and make him look worse. So that's what I'm saying. There's got to be accountability for those people, not just the person that says, look, here's the video of Joe Rogan, who may not know. Who's the person that said, put a filter on that? Let's make him look worse. So this way we really killed this ivermectin. Of people, you know, any company that makes a vaccine.

I want to really quick. I want to move on because I want to get to the free Tony Romo movement in a moment. But I want to check in with the Wulisha. This is Kayla Quinn. She says, it's a waste of time. Nothing will happen. Zero accountability. Versus, by the way, Jay Elliott, who says, we really need to know what happened.

Fauci should be, should just be a bad tasting footnote. You know the thing about this? I actually enjoy the conversation we just had about COVID. I didn't enjoy the beginning, and I know I took control of it, but telling the story, because you fill in the gaps and it's not amorphous anymore. But you know what I'm really sensitive of? People don't want to talk about COVID. I've just really developed that. We get comments like that right now.

People are like, why are you still talking about? Do we have comments like that right now? I didn't send them to you, but I saw some, I can grab them. But they're saying, why are you guys still talking about COVID? Right. So they feel like it's old. But the truth is they haven't wanted to talk about COVID for two or three years. And I think that's interesting.

And I think it's just because it's like a time in their life that like it consumed everything. And so they've moved on. Or and I'm sympathetic to this. You made choices. Yeah. You feel it makes you feel stupid. You made choices that you regret. It makes you feel like a sheep because you didn't send your kid to school or you socially distance.

I feel stupid. And so you don't want to revisit the topic. But here's the thing to the people that think that there has to. come a point in time where we stop having the mentality of, well, it's over, let's move on, because if you don't have accountability and you could do this for everything, if you don't have accountability for Benghazi, if you don't have accountability for Syria, if you don't have accountability for whatever war, if you don't have accountability for COVID, these people will continue to do this because they know they're going to get away with it. So you can't just

say, wow, it's five years ago. And Vince, there's going to be something else. That's what I'm saying. You've got to revisit this. You've got to talk about it. And honestly, now that we're doing this, it's actually more important than holding Fauci accountable. It's actually more important. Yes. Because the only way it doesn't happen again is not holding Fauci accountable.

There'll be another Fauci, another guy. And he's not going to look at Fauci and learn a lesson. And I don't think there's any lesson you can do to Fauci. You can put him in jail. I don't think that that's going to teach the next guy a lesson. No. The only lesson to learn is for us. Pull the curtain open.

Right. I want the curtain open. Coming up, two-time World Series champion and the author of The Hardest Comeback. Scott Spiteo joins us on Willcane Country. Hey, y'all. It's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair. Ever order furniture online and wonder what if? Like, what if it doesn't hold up? That sofa was four days old. You should have ordered from Wayfair.

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And that's what we do all the time. He's ever been held accountable for anything in this country. I mean, a lot of things have happened that have been bad and no one's ever held accountable. I hate the use of democracy here because it's a capitalist republic and I want to get to the money behind all of this because ultimately this is money driving this as is most things. Look at the fraud. Right. Yeah. So let's call it what it is.

It's capitalics republic. Get to the money that was behind this, the money that we just started with that was going to fund this lab. I want to see all of the money and I want the curtain pulled back on all of these people. I don't care if it's pharmaceutical companies and by the way, I am not suicidal. So if anybody's listening to this CIA, FBI. pharmaceutical companies. Protect Vince August. Yeah. I want the curtain pulled open. What I want, what I want maybe, what we all want maybe too much. COVID for me, I'm going to, we'll button this up. I've said this before. I used to walk around thinking that human beings base level motivation and therefore the sins we need to guard against are things like greed.

And I don't think greed is the primary motivation. Like you kind of are saying, that because of the money. What I realized from COVID is that the base but my, but even them, they're the minority. Fear is the

biggest motivational factor for human beings. Fear. But the fear made people rich. At our car, yeah, that's fine, but we can't be afraid. That's what we have to try to battle our own fear. And it's like the fear turned into really ugly

stuff like the tribalism thing like the way they spoke about the unvaccinated sounded like something out of a movie it really did like those people are your problem yeah they're they're the ones killing us the unvaccinated and you could you could put such a significant percentage of a population into fear that they were willing to do anything to their children you know honestly that's a big one people don't want to revisit the risk reward analysis on should my kid get the shot, right? But hey, you got to because I'm afraid of various things, not just whether, not getting to go to school, you know, mandatory vaccines to attend school, that kind of stuff. And they weaponize that fear. All that fear. Right. Yes. And, and, and then they,

and then people turned on each other because of the fear. Now we're walking dead zombie stuff where the, you know, we've got to kill the unvaccinated. We got to ostracize the unvaccinated. And before COVID, I guess I kind of lived in a world where I thought we were civilized beyond that, and we're not. This is a thin veneer of civilization over the same thing that people have been for the entirety of humanity. Yeah, you're not going to get me to say no one at. Okay, let me change subjects really quickly before we talk to Scott Speed to you. So Tony Romo looks to me like he passed that sobriety test. Am I wrong?

Yeah. You would, Will, you would say that he passed a concussion test after he got hit in the head back in the day. So, turn around? Look at him. Look at Tony. Yeah. He's having to, he's smiling. He's, yeah.

He made a joke. He goes, did I pass this test? And she goes, turn around. He goes, well, guess not. He did all his stretches. He was loosening his backup before he had to do. Warrior one pose, down dog. He's doing yoga poses, yeah.

He's fine. He's like, I'm good. He's a beer. Yeah, watch. Let me hop in his car. Let me show you how good I could drive. My grandpa's. There's a story now that CBS may be looking at whether or not this violates a morality clause within his contract.

Tony wakes $18 million a year, $180 million over 10 years. And like anything else, this is business. Well, he set the standard, man. I know. Then Aikman and Brady made more than that. And now the question is, like any one of these stories, we debated this morning. Obviously, I love Tony. But I don't watch a lot of AFC games.

I told you guys that. So I don't listen to Tony as much as I do, now Brady, before that Aikman. I watch Fox because I'm an NFC guy because of the Cowboys. So Romo was flying high. He was the best. And now everybody's narrative is that he's not, that he mail. it in. He's not trying that hard. And so CBS is sitting there going, now can we get out of this contract? These things are always the same. There's no reason to fire this dude over suspicion

of what they call in Wisconsin OWI, DUI, DUI, DWI. There is no reason. Dudes do far worse, far worse. It's only in a matter of whether this is an excuse for them to get out of that contract. I mean, listen, first off, him and Nancy are great to. together. I'm an AFC guy. I'm a Steelers fan. I get to watch him a lot. I get to hear him a lot. I should say, I think they do a great job covering games. I think he's great at breaking down plays, even predicting what's going to happen on certain plays. So this is the guy that we want to get rid of in a league where the guys on the field that he's covering are doing what? Less or worse than what he's doing in a lot of these cases, listen, man, we can't live in this penal society where, look, is this

like- But we don't. That's the point, Vince. We don't. It's his third- It's actually a cost-benefit analysis. That's why it's not principled. It's always business. It's always cost-benefit. Kaepernick's costs were higher than his benefits, period. Anytime you do this. And so the question is, are Tony's benefits, how good is he at this, exceeding $18 million year. Not exceeding the DWI, exceeding the $18 million a year. That's it.

So is the question, can we find somebody else to do the job for less money? Of course you can. How many retired quarterbacks, retired players can you get to sit in there for less money and deliver a product

that's going to be comparable or you're not going to miss a beat and be like, yeah, you know what, this isn't bad? Of course you're going to be able to find somebody to do that. My question is, Do we want to take this? Look, thank God there was no accident. Nobody was hurt.

If you tell me this is the guy's third DWI, 4DW, he's got a bunch of indiscretions. And you guys say, look, this guy's got to go get help. That's one thing. But if we're going to live in a one-strike-you're-out society, come on, man. What are we doing out there? You know, where is, and how about that? Look at our next guess. When do we have the comeback story then?

Are we not allowed to have the, or does a guy have to go away for a certain period of time and is all right now you can come back don't you have to have the fall to have the right so you'll be tony's not yeah i mean come on he had the fall i'm with he played for the cowboys i mean that's a punishment enough i mean are you kidding me look at his record in the playoffs that was his fall that's why he's drinking i'm surprised will isn't drinking as a cowboy fan look at him he's probably going to get a bottle right now tony's probably there yeah He's probably going to get a drink right now knowing what he's had to endure watching Tony Romo. I'm surprised he doesn't drink watching this, doing this show.

He can't hear. Now's a good time for me to bring out my ball. This is the perfect segment for me to bring out my ball. There is. You see it? It's enshrined. Will, thanks for having my back. Happy birthday, Tony Romo.

And you should have said back, thanks, Tony, for not having mine. I got you. I got you back again, Tony. I haven't autograph a beer bottle for you next time. Come on now? Come on now. Come on. Come on.

Come on. Tony. Come on. Did you think that was fun, Tony? I know you're watching. Did you think that was fun? We know you're always watching. I thought you passed with flying colors.

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Learn more at chevron.com slash 250. As hinted at by Vince August, joining us now on Will Kane Country. He's a two-time World Series champion. He's also the author of a new book, The Hardest Comeback, which will soon be a documentary in theater, September 10th. The documentary is entitled Spizio. It is Scott Spizio joining us now. What's up? Scott. Good to have you. Man, watching you guys, you have me crying here. Hey, that's a great segue though, Tony Romo, DUI, and my story. So you guys are pretty good. You know what? Let's just go straight into it. You know, the way you think about an interview is let's start with the home run, kind of like the book, and work our way back into the bigger comeback. But let's not. Let's not bury the lead. So, you know,

I didn't know with the time, Scott, what you were dealing with, what you were struggling with, what you were going through, but I learned a lot, and it's pretty wild, pretty wild, what you had in the clubhouse, what you were doing during games. Yeah, yeah. I mean, most of my career, I was straight as an arrow. I mean, I remember somebody coming to my high school and saying, show me your friends, I'll show your future. And I was, you know, I always tried to avoid people making bad decisions.

My whole life, I went and spoke at grade schools. I was the dare guy, if you guys, remember, dare in school. Yeah. Drug awareness, you know, and I did that in college. I did it through the minor leagues, even in the major leagues, had dare card made, would buy drug dogs for police departments. And then things just got injury in Seattle.

And at 32 years old, was on a new team. It happened in spring training. I hadn't really found those guys that could hold me accountable yet. And, you know, for the, I blew out my team. T6, T7 disc. They said I might not play. If I tried to play, I could be paralyzed. Kind of spend me into depression and anxiety.

And I went down, had a couple of drinks with some buddies on my new team. And boy, it kind of helped me settle that down. And instead of going and getting help, I used alcohol as my counselor. And then once, bam, when I started to learn how to drink, I have an detective person. I got really good at it really quick. And within a couple years, within a year of that, I actually tried my first drug at 33 and was off to the races. You know, I was able to hold it down in 2006.

You know, I really didn't start using heavily until the end of 2006. But I was still, you know, 2007, I always say I gave up everything in my life for two things. And somewhere I never thought I'd be, you know, and it was tough. A lot of times, I mean, I'd be searching, in 2007, I'd be searching for alcohol. I remember in Houston, I panicked one time. I didn't have any vodka, which I would put in water bottles. And I asked the clubhouse attendant to put a case of beer and a cooler in the shower. In between innings, I was just to stop me from shaking, I would go in and pound, you know,

two or three beers in between every inning. You know, I was, and then I had in my uppers, too, that was kind of balancing me. And I think, boy, I think that game I had, you know, I don't even know, eight to ten putouts from third base. I had a good game at the plate. And, you know, it was just a crazy time. How did you do that? How, I mean, to be drinking between innings, I think he said balancing it with whatever the upper was,

cocaine or whatever. Yeah, yeah. That's just hard to figure out how you didn't go out and have peak athletic performance. or at least pass on that one with us peak, I guess. But even to be out there doing things at the highest level. Yeah, I still don't know. I had teammates that would look at me and be like, I don't, you're a legend.

I don't know how you're even alive, let alone doing well on the field. I remember how it really started to become an everyday thing was in late August of 2006. We were in Arizona. We had played a home game at home, flew, you know, a day game, flew to Arizona,

went out that night. and there was a couple guys that were, you know, at a club. And, you know, they did a couple lines to cocaine. And I'm like, no, I don't do that when I play. And they're like, come on, do it. And so I did it. I did it. And the next day I hit two home runs.

And then I did it again. And it had another good game that I didn't do it and struck it out three times. And I never strike out. And so then it became a superstition, you know, baseball players. superstition. And then I said, okay, I'll stop when I get cold, but I didn't. I just got hot all the way through the playoffs in the World Series. And then I, of course, we won the World Series. I used it as a celebration. And then also when I went through my divorce, you know, after, you know, my first year in Seattle, my dad and parents stopped talking to me just because they didn't want to, they basically said, I don't want to watch you make bad to see. decisions and kill yourself, you know. And so then I used that, too, is that, you know, I was depressed about that and feeling guilty.

And so then I'd use more and drink more. And by 2007, I mean, there was days. I would stay up three, four days in a row and still be playing, you know, and 120 degree hits on the field, sweating my butt off thinking I'm going to die and, you know, hit a home run. It was crazy. And, Scott, that's what I was crazy. Yeah, that's what I was taken away from your story.

and looking at other pro baseball players, pro athletes, how much does the success, because we've heard about who pitched a no-hitter, you know, tripping on acid, and, you know, look, good and strawberry, all these guys, was the fact that you were having... What does this say about baseball? By the way, does this say something about baseball?

Can you play ice hockey doing this? No, but that's really what it relates to. I mean, how much of the muscle memory of what you guys do does it override the guilt, and everything that you're doing with the drugs that you're like, well, look, man, I'm still playing well. Does that diminish the fact that, you know, you know what you're doing is wrong,

but I'm still having success. Who's to argue with it? I knew what I was doing was wrong. I just couldn't stop. I became physically and physically dependent on it. Like, I would shake and I didn't want to tell anybody. You know, now there's a lot better programs within Major League Baseball. But, you know, I was one of those guys I didn't like going and talking to the trainers,

even if I had an injury. Because I, you know, my dad would always say you can't make the club in the tub, you know. And so I'd stay away. But, you know, if I, this happened to me earlier in my career, I would have never made it. You know, not that I wanted to happen to anybody, but if it was going to happen, I was lucky that it happened late in my career, where I could do exactly what you said. All I would, by 2007, 2006, it wasn't too bad because I wasn't using as much and drinking as much. 2007. I mean, I was drinking probably a handle of vodka a day, you know, playing. I was probably

consistently point two plus and then using the cocaine to balance it out. But all I would do is say, because I feel like I just got to make it through this at bat. I just got to make it through this inning. You know, and I just say trust your hands. That's all I'd say is just see the ball, trust your hands. And I was lucky enough to be able to, you know, have done it so many times that I can slow things down in my mind so that a, you know, a 100 mile an hour fastball look like 90. Let's take a quick break, but we're right back with Scott Speetio on Will Kane Country. Visit BetMGM Casino and check out the newest exclusive.

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You can't go out on stage and be funny unless you've done the things that you're, you've been doing, which is either getting drunk or getting high, and then you're in your zone. So, I mean, then you mentally convince yourself, that's why I'm good. I don't know if you thought that way, Scott, but that's what's making me be able to be what I am. I know that's a big thing in comedy, Vince. Yeah, I don't know how guys go on stage and do that. I mean, I have to be sharp, but for some people, it's the nerves. It's getting over the nerves. And clearly, with Scott, it's getting over the injuries. And I guess it's, if that's the security blanket, that hey look it's working i'm going out there and i'm doing well who's to argue with success

don't screw up with what's working i mean that's what it seemed like yeah i mean at first i i think it started out as uh you know as a superstition at the end of 2006 and then then it became a physical uh you know chemical chemical addiction that i couldn't i could not like i had no idea what i was dealing with. And then, you know, I finally, you know, I always tell kids, like, it's very hard in baseball because every day is the same thing. It's like Groundhog Day, you know, 162 games, 40 games and another 40 in spring training, another 15 in the playoffs, you know, all packed in about 250, 260 days. And so I say, you got to, you want to have a routine to set your subconscious at ease, but you don't want to have a superstition. You never want to have to wear, you know, you guys have

heard the golden thong gombie and jeter story right you never want to have you have to do something in order to get a hit or get a win you want to have routines but mine had turned into to uh you know something that i felt that i had to do at the end of 2006 and then i was like oh we're like this team could win the world series i had been saying that since you know i got to spring train in 2006 how so and i want to this part you You talked about the physical thing, and it's in some ways when we talk about this through the lens of baseball and you still doing well, I think we can almost diminish where this went for you because, you know, as you write about Scott, I mean, this got to the point where you were puking in a bucket. You had to keep a bucket by the couch. You were drinking all that vodka.

And you were shutting down, jaundiced, liver shut down, life almost lost. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, you know, man, it was a really cool moment in 2007, not the first game, but the second game. They gave us our rings with the Cardinals. And, you know, my dad and I hadn't talked in almost three years. And the Cardinals invited my dad to come and give me my ring. We're the only father's son to win a World Series ring with the same organization in all baseball and history.

and we're the only one to win two apiece. And so they asked him to come out. When I was about ready to go get my ring, you know, Mike Shannon said for the next player, we have a special guest presenter for the first time in history of father's son and won the same organization. I turned around and saw him my dad. And I started losing it, you know,

and they called him up and they called me up and we hugged and we talked. And I called that my prodigal son moment because I knew my dad was there. You know, I hadn't turned, I hadn't turned and hugged my, my heavenly father yet, but I knew he was there. I just felt ashamed. And that, that, that started the journey of, you know, 10 years where I knew I had a battle and I went to 11 rehabs in 10 years. And sometimes I'd fail right away.

Sometimes I might get eight, nine, 10 months, even 12 months of sobriety in. But man, it was a battle. And not until the end. I was smart enough to, to, I was spending my money like crazy. I went through two divorces. I gave my dad everything. I said, here, this is what I have left. Protect it.

Power of attorney, I don't want any cars. I don't want any access to money. So I was able to stop the drugs. I was still smart enough to manipulate people to bring over alcohol to me, really cheap, you know, Skolvaka, stuff like that. So I was still drinking, but I was, I was getting closer. And then I think God just smacked me in the head and said, hey, wake up, you know, you're going to die. And yeah, a girl named Tanya Boyer brought me to the hospital.

She was trying to help me. And she dragged me. Like I was like, I'm going to be fine. I'm different than everybody else. And I went and they said, you got a 20% chance to live. And if you do live in the next five days through the next five days, you're going to have to have a liver transplant. But you have to go six months without drinking. And I'm thinking, how am I going to go six months without drinking?

You know, from a guy that didn't even like taking aspirin or Tylenol until, you know, 32 years old, to a guy that to save his own life can't stop drinking. And I just prayed to God. I said, God, this time, of course I want you to help me, but this time I want you to take away my cravings. And that was April 6, 2018. And from that day on, I've had zero cravings. And as a matter of fact, every time I see alcohol. Yeah, every time I see like a bottle of alcohol, I get physically ill, like I'm going to throw up. And that's a miracle.

And then on top of that, I kept, you know, I was having to get a big huge, it's like Pearson T-sus or something like that, or they would stick a huge long needle into my abdomen. I'd have to lay in my side and they would pull out two plus liters of fluid, you know, every other week. And they said, I might have to keep doing this until I get that liver transplant. And I was going to the best doctors at Northwestern outside of Chicago here. And they, you know, every week they say, okay, this, this, you're doing good. You're still sober. You know, we'll keep making plans about the fourth month in that came in and they said,

we looked at your scans. We've looked at your blood work. We can't explain it. But your, everything is normal. And the only thing we can say is that somebody upstairs is looking out for you. and I just started trying and knew that it was another miracle. And, you know, I just feel that God gave me another chance to go out and spread, spread his word. Man, I don't know of a better or alternative explanation than what you just described.

I mean, we all have stories. I'm sure everybody sitting here has stories, family members, somebody that it didn't go this way for them. And for you to whatever, have that miracle, that revelation, take away my cravings. and then physically saved your life as well. It's nothing short of what you could describe as a miracle. That's it. I knew right away that both times that it was a miracle because the thing that was kept getting me all the time was the cravings.

And I'd go past the, you know, I'd be doing good, and I'd go past chilies or something, and it would say two for one margaritas, and my mouth would start watering. And I'd say, all right, I'll just have one, you know, and boom, one turns into two. It was a tough time. And then for it to be dead, and it seems to be getting, like I was in my hometown,

there's no alcohol and grocery stores. So you have to go to a liquor store to get one. I was in Florida at the International Christian Film Festival for our documentary. We had been selected, and our director got nominated for Best Director. And we were buying some food, and I came around the corner, and boom, there was a whole staff. of like vodka and I literally almost threw up on the floor it seems to be getting stronger so I think God is is definitely saying hey man I'm still here you make sure that you stay away from

that stuff and and I do everything in my power to to avoid it I can be around it I just have used my senses I wouldn't be around it for two years like I wouldn't do any weddings I wouldn't do I would go to a restaurant with the bar I wouldn't go to a golf outing. I knew that for for for for me to be back to myself with my, you know, with my chemistry, my brain chemistry, it was probably going to take me 18 to 24 months. I knew that because I went to rehab so many times and went to so many AA meetings and celebrate recovery and counseling meetings that I knew my brain chemistry needed to come back to so normal and start making, you know, dopamine and serotonin at the right levels. And before I would jump the gun,

I'd get too confident. And so that was, that was huge for me. Well, let's, Vince is wearing your, Vince, what old is that jersey? How long have you had an Angels jersey? Why do you have an Angels jersey? I'm going to tell you why I have an Angels jersey. Because back in 2013, when I started pitching shows

and trying to get my own TV show and out in L.A., I was turned on to this kid from South Jersey, who was this amazing baseball player, and his name was Mike Trout. And I said, if there's a chance I'm going to live in, in L.A. I'm not rooting for the Dodgers. I'm going to be an Angels fan because I remember that year that you guys beat the Giants and the rally monkeys and a whole thing. And I'm like, you know what? No, Angels seem the way to go. So I kind of been following Trout's career the entire time.

But I remember that World Series well just because of what game five, game six was and even game seven, Kevin Apier comes out pitches a gem. But one of the things about your story that's really amazing is you seem to have these amazing highs with these amazing lows throughout your life, like, you know, two world series, but then you have these rock bottom moments where you're not talking to your dad, and then all of a sudden there's your dad behind you handing you this. I mean, how do you bet, like when you look at all of that, where's like the middle for Scott Spie? Where's like normal? Where's baseline for Scott Spiezo at this point? Well, that's a great question. There's a lot there.

Yeah, I'm hoping the angels can turn around. I actually used my game six home run on the cover. It cost me $7,000 to do it. Rebuild it, baby. Rebuild it. Yeah, you know, I would say most of my life was pretty steady. You know, one of the things my dad told me when I was suffering, really suffering in the middle of addiction after my career is he said,

Scott, boring is okay. You know, boring is okay. You don't have to be everything at 100 miles an hour, you know. And, you know, my whole life, I was preparing. I was doing everything at 100% so that I could get to those great moments, you know. You know, my dad would play tapes and they would say, you know, you are invincible. The driving purpose of a winner flows to your body. You are great.

You are a champion. There's no limit to your strength, power, and quickness. You know, more than enough to win every game. And then we play in the backyard and he'd be pitching to me. You know, we did this every day. And he would end every practice with three, two, count, two outs, bases, loaded down one, bottom of nine, game seven of the World Series. What are you going to do? And my mom would be shagging balls and she'd go, do it for the ring, Scott, you know?

And so those moments is what I live for. And then when I hit that home run, the whole, it seemed like it was the natural, everything was in slow motion. The ball, I knew I hit it on the barrel. I didn't know if it was going to go out. I was literally praying on the way to first. God, please let this go out. I was even calling out Gene Autry. Like, come on, man.

Come on, Cowboy. Bring it out, man. And I got past first base. And only time in my life, you know, 122 careers, if you count, or 22 home runs, if you count my post-eat home runs. Only time my life, I did a little pump bait,

you know, put a little, little pimping. And then I heard the loudest noise I ever heard in my life. I felt like I was six feet off the ground. And I started reliving all those times in the backyard. for this moment, you know? And it was just... But when you went to the plate, so you're down 5-0,

what was it, the sixth inning of game 6? What inning was it? Seven. Seven-th inning. Bottom of seven. Okay, you're down 5-0. You hit this home run. Did it feel, when you're walking to the plate

from the batters box, when, or from the warm-up area, and you're now taking your stance, you know, butterflies, moment, the necessity of the moment. I have to, we're down, like that we have to do is none of that affected you? Were you in the backyard with your dad? Did it feel just like your mom saying, do it for the ring, Scott? It did.

Up to that point in that playoff, I had already had 16 RBIs. So I was approaching the record. Yeah, my dad would always train me for those moments. And he would say, try easier. George Brett used to do that. And so I always, I felt like my whole purpose in baseball was for the playoffs. And in my 26th career playoff games, I had 25 RBIs and hit over 600 with runners and runners in scoring position because of that training.

So everything felt normal to me. When I came up, it was bottom of seven, one out, gloss, Troy Gloss and Brad Fulmer just got a base hit. Dusty Baker, who's also got a book right now. And I'm in it talking about the same thing. And he's in my book talking about the same thing. which is kind of crazy, you know, 20, whatever, 24 years later, we're still competing on book sales.

And he's an awesome guy. But he walked out to the mound, and I'm a switch hitter, and there was a right knee and the lefty warming up. And he walked out to the mound, so I was just paying attention. Like, hey, is he going to keep him in? Russ Ortiz was doing a great job. And he ended up pulling him out, took the game ball from him. and then Russ Ortiz started walking back,

and then he called them back so that I was confused, and he gave him the game ball and patting him on the back. And I'm like, wait a second, like, these guys think it's over. Now, Dusty says that wasn't the case. He just wanted to give, you know, Russ the ball, show him his appreciation. But to me, not knowing that, I was like, these guys think it's over, you know. And rumor hasn't there was already the plastic in the, in the, uh, a giant's clubhouse.

They had already unveiled the start unveiling the trophy, bringing in champagne in there. People in Anaheim didn't want to see the angels lose again. So they're, they're leaving. I have so many people telling me I was in the parking lot when you hit the home run, you know, um,

and then I, I just, I, I just, I just said, man, if I could, if I could just get something started here,

hit something in the gap. I knew that we had the rally monkey. And I knew that our fans would, and my teammates would come through, and sure enough, after eight pitches and, you know, battling, falling off four pitches on a three-two count, I finally got that one down and in, and it was enough, and it turned the tides, and we ended up winning 6'5, and I ended up tying the record for most RBI's until David Fries broke it in 2011 with the Cardinals, and then the roll- Don't tell Will that.

Yeah, I'm a Ranger. A little flashbacks. A Rolla Garcia broke it after that with the Rangers. So you got payback, right? That is awesome. All of it is awesome. I mean, not what you had to go through, not what you, not where it went eventually. I do find it fascinating.

I know you talked about this in your book. You know, I don't know. I've never hit a comeback home run in the World Series. I've not done, I don't have two World Series rings. But, you know, I have a lot of friends who've achieved success at various levels. And one of the things, and I think I've said this before, that I find fascinating is how people say success can be a bit of a letdown. It's not what you think it is. It doesn't change your life in the way that you think it does.

And, you know, you kind of talk about that. And we know where the life went. You won another World Series ring, but eventually. But success for all that you build it up to be. And I know you felt great when you hit the home run. I know you felt great when you got the World Series. series ring, but it doesn't change who you are as a human being. No, not at all. No, I actually struggled with that. You know, I, I kind of had a routine.

I was never the big star. I kind of was in the shadows and would just contribute, you know. And then, you know, then after that, you know, I got asked to do, same night. I did top 10 list for Letterman, Dave Letterman, and then got in the limo, went to do Leno. And then I was in, you know, some sitcoms and some other shows. And I kind of got out of my routine. You know, you start hearing people call you, you know, a hero and all that stuff. I always say it's kind of like, you know, like an ego. You start getting an ego.

And for me, it's edging got out. And I kind of edged him out and just started drifting. And I, you know, I prayed my whole wife. My prayer life wasn't that great. I pray, God, keep me in my family healthy. You know, let me play 10 years in the big leagues and win a world series. And then after that, I'm like, okay, what am I doing now? you know and so then I'm like all right I want to play for a long-term deal and you know

maybe another world series and I'd never played for money so it was it was a weird year and it didn't work and then I went back to just myself the second half of 2003 but I was still kind of lost you know I I didn't really know what what to play for anymore and so then I just tried you know did my best and then the injury happened and then I was really lost and not myself and it it took you know coming back to my roots here in Morris, Illinois and my friends from here that knew me better to help me find myself again. Well, Scott, thanks for sharing your story with us here today. And anybody that wants to hear more, obviously, can get his book.

It's the hardest comeback in this September, Speetio, the documentary will be in theaters. He talked about, they went to a Christian film festival. It's an inspirational story, and we appreciate you being with us here today, Scott. Thanks, well, yeah, if you want info on the, on the, on the documentary, it's that spizio.info, the book, Amazon.com or Scottspizio.com, I'll sign copies behind me on the table behind me. And we'd love to see people out at the movie. It's a tear jerker. My parents are in it. And every time, it's really hard. When I read some of the book or when I watch some of the film, usually I'm crying pretty quickly. Thank you guys for having me.

I really appreciate it. You bet. Thank you, Scott. We appreciate it. We'll check it out at Amazon and specio. info. Hey, by the way, for over two decades, the Tunnel Towers Foundation has been there for our fallen and catastrophically injured first responders, military, and Gold Star families. Born from the tragedy of 9-11, Tunnel of Towers, provides mortgage-free homes to Gold Star and Fallen First Responder families with young children and builds, specially adapted smart homes for those catastrophically injured veterans and first responders. The Foundation also offers scholarships for college and trade school programs.

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today Patrick I I didn't I didn't really think it through until the last second we got random background that's not fair yeah getting so I like it when they have meanings. Yeah. I thought I had something to a specio. I thought it was like, okay, baseball. Well, I was watching the documentary, and he was in a gymnasium a lot. And so I was like, oh, I could probably maybe do that.

Or we talked about, you know, eating a lot of Taco Bell, maybe working out, you know, in a gym, I don't know. Yep. I was trying to think about something athletic with Patrick. Okay. I haven't been athletic in 20 years. It's still there. No. It's muscle memory.

It's gone. Break it up. I'd pay good money to see you on the ice. I'd pay good money to see on the ice. I wish I could do it. I wish I could do it again. Enforcercer. I would give anything.

Blacking people. That was me. Big Dino Cicerelli. Celebrity hockey game. Yeah. D-List hockey game. I want to see him go into a penalty box, slam the door shut, all angry.

Oh, yeah, that definitely happens. Vince August, 10-4-Patt, two days, Dan, and yours truly. Thanks for hanging out with us today. We appreciate you being with us. We'll see you again next time. Listen to ad-free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcasts. And Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show, ad-free on the Amazon music app.

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