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How did we lose the video game industry?
How did we lose Hollywood and what's it like to fight back and reclaim entertainment
from The Woke?
Conversation with NerdRodding.
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Gary Beakler is also known as NerdRodic.
He has a huge following on YouTube, where he breaks down pop culture, movies,
and some would say video games.
So we revisited that conversation talking about GamerGate and how Hollywood went woke.
Here is Gary Beechler.
He is also NerdRodic.
He's one of the biggest streamers on YouTube across the internet.
He's got well over a million subscribers.
He reviews pop culture.
He reviews gaming and entertainment.
And he's been doing it for quite some time.
Gary, I don't know.
This is you going mainstream.
This might be me going mainstream on YouTube.
I don't know about that.
I just went to Vegas.
I put on a couple pounds.
So that's the only bigger I feel right now.
But yeah, and anybody who watches me knows I'm a huge game.
gaming fan, massive gamer, play all the time.
No, you were talking earlier about where all this started.
And as far as the customer movement, I hate the word consumer,
it really did start with GamerGate, right?
GamerGate has some very nefarious origins that we don't need to get into,
but ultimately it was a customer movement.
It was fans going, you know, I've loved this stuff for so long and something feels a little off.
All of a sudden, you hate us.
And the Royal U here is is the gaming industry and some of the designers and mostly the journalism.
Entertainment journalism has been a poison, has been cancer to fandom for well over a decade now.
When it used to be just, hey, let's review a game or let's review a movie or a comic book.
And then it became, well, you know, the biggest problem here is the fans, obviously, the toxic fans.
Yeah, you know what actually that makes me think immediately, Gary?
So before I was at Fox, I don't know how familiar you are with me or my career, and I don't assume that you need to be or are, but I was in sports for like, you know, five years. I was at ESPN. And I had the Will Kane show on ESPN. And I never know, I don't know that I rationalized an analogy to what you just described in gaming. But I could instinctively feel this. I came at sports from the prism of a fan. Look, I wasn't a pro athlete and I wasn't a sports journalist. And one of the things I noticed was the antipathy,
towards the fan in sports. It's like, you know, everything became an attack on the fan.
And before you know, every fan playing the, what's the game where you, the circle game,
became making a white supremacist symbol, right? And then every fan's a racist. And it was driven by,
it felt like the sports journalists who hated the people that are actually, as you point out,
the customers of the entire business, the entire model of sports. And I wanted to center my show
I'm like, hey, like, I love fans.
Like, fans are what makes this thing go around, not just, like, from a business standpoint,
but from a passion standpoint.
Like, I'm a passionate fan.
And why do you hate the passionate fan of sports?
It's fascinating that journalism did the same thing in gaming.
Your journalism recognized early that the fan was eventually, whether it was subliminal
or not, the fan was eventually going to become their competition because, thanks to social
media, good or bad, we're more connected now than ever, and our opinions are out there,
right or wrong and so many of us are not afraid to give them now and that really bothers creatives
and that really bothers the journalists who had power had a lot of power over the creatives
the creatives basically had to go to them to get their thing pushed out and it was a very
symbiotic relationship for a long time i use the term shill because that's mostly what they
were we weren't getting honest opinions pretty much ever right and then when guys like
myself or my friend Jeremy from Geeks and Gamers or all my co-hosts on Friday Night Tights
were just guys in our rooms filled with way too many toys, just expressing our opinions
going, you know, like, we used to really love this stuff.
We want to still love this stuff.
And all we were met with every time we can put legitimate criticisms, by the way, we might
flare it with a little comedy or failed comedy in my case.
But it was honest.
It was authentic.
And that's the one thing.
Hollywood's having a hard time dealing with
the AAA gaming companies are having
hard time dealing with and media
overall is having a hard time dealing with
is authenticity and that's what people are
looking for in art, in
criticism, and just
basic opinion.
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay, I want to come back to the gaming
foundations of this for a moment,
but I want to kind of set up
see if you accept my premise that I said
before you came in.
And I'll say this as someone who wasn't
coming at from a critical standpoint, I was just a consumer or a customer, right?
It did feel, at least in pop culture, like we were a little bit in a golden age, especially
in television.
So in the 90s, I would say movies were the thing.
And I don't know if we were in a golden age of movies or not, but it felt like I used to
go to the movies all the time.
Now I'd never go to the movies.
But it transitioned to television, and it felt like we always had something good to watch
there for about a 10, maybe even a 15-year period.
Like, from the Sopranos to the Wire, to Breaking Bad, to whatever, it was always something
good going on.
But the reason I want you to check that premise is that was also a world that predated sort
of the fan-driven feedback on those things.
Like, it was before social media, you know, mid-2000s because, you know, whatever, Twitter
takes off in like 2009, 10, YouTube a little before that, probably.
do you think I was deluded during that period that it was a golden age or was it truly a golden age
and for some reason even though they still had the journalist gatekeepers they were making better content
it was a golden age and it was the end of the golden age I mean there's been forums going back
20 years and that's where fandom had been relegated to and fandom particularly with fandom
not just you know with shows you know general audience shows that was very neat that was very neat
That's kind of where it needed to stay.
But yeah, we had a brilliant run of HBO shows, premium format shows,
and that was supposed to be the future.
That really was.
And that ended 2015, 2016.
Now, we can all assume what happened that year when Hollywood went crazy.
But that's where they really put their foot on the gas pedal on woke Hollywood,
driving in the message.
And that's where we started hearing like insert here theory.
you know, CRT or alphabet theory, as I call it.
And that's really where it started getting pushed.
I mean, it had its origins earlier.
But no, we were just getting good normal shows
because there was talented people creating them
and what Hollywood has done and what gaming has tried to do
but can't and definitely comics.
Nobody reads comics anymore is they've pushed out
all the talented people with diversity hires.
and now we have a bunch of inexperienced, untalented people
who are completely, who are in, I say in Hollywood,
you know, directors are cast now.
They're not hired, they're cast.
And shows are produced.
They're not created anymore.
And that's the problem.
There's too many cooks in the kitchen,
way too many producers.
There's too many rules.
There's, you know, there's a slavish adherence to,
and now it's a contractual adherence to the message
that is absolutely destroyed art.
You know, Jerry, we'll probably talk about that.
Jerry Seinfeld broke that down perfectly recently again, and this is not an old argument.
Yeah, let's talk about Jerry Seinfeld.
So I'm always like, I want to, I ask you to check my premises.
I always like to push back on myself.
Like, okay, if I hear something I really like and I tend to agree with, then I kind of almost want to play devil's advocate with myself.
Are you sure?
You got this right.
So I hear Jerry Seinfeld say, you know, the problem with comedy.
is it's all run by a boardroom now, and the boardroom is run by a mentality, like you just
said, not just a mentality, but like, we've got to check the DEI boxes, we've got to ensure that
the comedy passes the doesn't offend the wrong people test. And I hear all that, I'm like,
yeah, that's absolutely true. But then I, pushing back on myself, Gary, I say, well,
what about South Park? What about curb your enthusiasm? Not politically correct. And I think
that Jerry did go on in that interview to say that Larry David was, was, was,
grandfathered in to that and so would the South Park have been but what about and maybe the same could
be said for mostly sunny uh in Philadelphia it's it's been around long enough to have survived
this shift entertainment but I know I saw Shane Gillis just I think he's getting a new a new deal
right a new show or something like that he's sort of been embraced and his entertainment fractures
and you have different outlets I just wonder if it's true maybe is Jerry just talking about like
ABC, CBS, and NBC and networks, or now that we have so many different outlets, are we actually
still capable of getting that stuff just more in fractured places?
Yeah, it's being decentralized.
What Jerry says in, he's had two articles come out, but what he says in one of them is, you know,
stand-up comedy.
Comedy's still alive.
It's still thriving, but it's thriving in stand-up because you have no middleman.
the audience is right there and if you screw up you know right away and that's what more
that's authenticity is the currency of the future that's what more people are looking for you got
a chat going right now that you're interacting with that's what people are moving to but comedy
what jeremy is why just keep saying jeremy jeremy's going to laugh my friend jeremy
uh jerry seinfelds said basically was it it's dead in hollywood it's dead in hollywood it's it if you go
back and look at the rated our comedy. The last one, we just had anyone but you, right,
really mid-comedy, made over $200 million. That was the first rated R comedy to make over $200
million since 2016. And by the way, that comedy was Bridget Jones baby to make you even more
depressed. But, like, we don't get the hangover anymore. We don't get Dodgeball. I saw it.
Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, we don't get. I saw it. Real quick.
I saw anyone but you on an airplane, and I'm curious what, like, it's not good.
But can we just, it's not good.
But, you know, I do think, like, for a lot of guys who probably, you and I probably have
some very similar views on a lot of things.
Like, Sidney Sweeney has been adopted, and she definitely has her assets.
But Sidney Sweeney has been adopted as this, like, anti-woke thing.
And then there was that producer who was like, I don't get the Sidney-Sweeney thing.
She's not a good actress and all that.
I mean, anything but you is not going to be.
Sydney Sweeney's nomination into
No, I'm actually really good.
Check this movie out.
No, she has become a huge star off of a massive flop,
Madam Webb, and her attitude after it, which was really good.
And she's really hot.
And yes, I can think of a couple of reasons
why anyone but you did well.
But other than that, it was a complete fantasy,
for one, you know, it's all centered around a lesbian destination wedding.
So the fact that they stayed together that long was the joke of the film.
But yeah, I think it's great that I've been putting her on my thumbnails.
What the hell?
It works.
You know, no shame to my game.
But I think it's just people want, you know, we need to like stop hot phobia.
My friend Chris Gore coined that term.
Stop hot phobia.
We've had this, especially in video games, they're trying to make everybody ugly.
It's like bring back hot women.
It's a good thing.
Makes people happy.
Men and women.
Well, and if we're really being authentic, to your point,
I mean, that's why I watched,
and that's why I stuck around for two hours.
It's a lot of Sidney-Sweeney.
And, you know, it keeps your attention.
So, yeah.
So back to Jerry Seinfeld, though.
You think, are we seeing a market correction, though?
So you say stand up.
is a way for the talented person to reach directly to the audience and not have it be filtered
through a boardroom, right? Do you think those other examples that I gave are all just
grandfathered in to what happened? Always Sunny, Curb Your Enthusiasm, South Park,
they're just grandfathered in. Will we ever see another one? Now that we have so many options
in terms of distribution, there's more boardrooms, but with more boardrooms, you presumably have
more opportunity for better boardrooms, right?
So will we see more of those types of shows?
I don't think so.
I think they, Jerry even talks about this in a later in the interview that he says
Kerb was grandfathered in and absolutely South Park was grandfathered in.
Always Sunny, brilliant show.
Grandfathered in.
But these are all shows in like multiple, multiple seasons.
I think always sunny's going to be up to 18 at some point.
South Park is at 26.
And if you go back and look, what dominated streaming last year?
Shows that were over a decade old suits, like ruled the summer.
And also on that list, there's a top 10 list with like one new show.
And you see older comedies, including Seinfeld.
So there's still, there's still an audience for it.
To answer for it, there's still an audience for superhero movies.
There's still an audience for movies.
There's still an audience for comedy.
and they're just finding other places for it.
Like you said, it's fracturing, and that's good.
We need entertainment completely decentralized.
I'm all for it.
That's why, again, like, some of the most interesting things happening right now
are in stand-up comedy, and most people aren't seeing it because, well, you'll have to go.
I was privileged enough to pay a lot of money, overpay for a ticket to go see the opening
of the mothership.
Joe Rogan's the mothership in Austin.
And I got to see Joe Rogan, Dave Chappelle, and it was brilliant.
It was absolutely brilliant.
So I think comedy is, it's a sign that Hollywood is dying because they have completely abandoned the one thing that they were built on.
Their first movie star was Chaplin technically.
And comedy is the one thing that pushes the boundaries that puts a mirror to society and to Hollywood.
And, you know, unfortunately, all Hollywood wants to do it, you know, I'm fine with them putting a mirror to society.
but right now they're putting like a lens to society.
They always bring up that term lens.
And it's really, it really comes from one source and it's getting tiresome.
And there's this huge divide between the audience and corporate Hollywood, corporate gaming, corporate comics, corporate news, everything right now.
And they're going to have a hard time dealing with it as we can talk to each other more.
Well, look, I take a huge amount of inspiration.
Yeah, the person that jokes that, you know, Gary's going mainstream, yeah, I mean, I work for Fox.
But I take a huge amount of inspiration from you, and even though I totally disagree with him on something, like a streamer like Destiny, because, and I can't speak to every opinion, and I can't speak to every show on everyone.
But there is a sense of authenticity, a lack of polish, you know, the comments are coming in right now, and I want to interact with them.
And that's my goal for this show.
It was when I had that radio show on ESPN.
It's just like, I want to be, yeah, I don't want to speak down and at people.
I want to speak with people, right?
And, but I need you to do something for me.
So, like, I'm not a gamer.
I'm like every kid.
I played Tecmo Bowl.
I played Madden.
I played everything, you know, NHL hockey through the 90s.
But I never was into fantasy games.
I think I played James Bond for some first-person shooter back in the day a little bit.
But you know what I liked about that game, Gary's, I like that my buddies and I could all get in a room together and then trash talk each other and do that and compete against each other.
So we never moved to sort of the online.
Oh, I did Call of Duty for a little bit.
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We're talking with Gary Beakler, aka NerdRodic, one of the biggest shows on YouTube.
We talked about this shift from the golden age to where we got.
And you pinpointed like 14, 15.
And that is like the rough timeline of Gamergate.
So what I'm getting at with my lack of knowledge when it comes to gaming is,
is I'm not all the way plugged in on GamerGate,
but it does seem to have been the canary and the coal mine
of everything that then unfolded after that.
Can you just get, so can you just give me the cliff notes on it?
I know you could do not just a show, but you could do, and you have done,
episodic seasons on GamerGate, but can you give me the cliff notes of what went down?
Well, I'm not a massive gamer either, but I am a massive nerd, and most of my friends are.
So Gamergate starts with a woman who slept with a few journalists to get some positive reviews.
That's pretty much it.
But it turns into there is a lot of intersectionality invading games.
And it really sparked a whole cottage industry on YouTube.
And it really sparked this criticism of calling out Walt Culture.
wasn't really even called that back then maybe it was this is before my time on youtube then uh it kind of
dies out because a lot of the voices in there uh either fade away or they turned it out to be a bunch
bunch of frauds there's still a lot that are still around there's razor fist there's sargon there's a lot of guys
who are still around right now um the people spear spearhead spearheading it now i would say my friend
jeremy from geeks and gamers uh cabrudis rums out there on twitter uh but so it bled into comic books
and then
sci-fi and fantasy books
this is the one that's lesser known
it was called the sad puppies
incident and it was
basically a bunch of
cultural Marxists invading
sci-fi and fantasy and taking over the awards
and not awarding anybody who
doesn't have the politics and it's way
deeper than that again
in comic books it turned
into we needed
half the industry needed to employ
women because of a
2014 Facebook poll
that said that, hey, women are
interested in comics too. Half the population
is a potential customer. Wow, great science
right there. So they decided to
get rid of all the old guys, bring in a bunch
of girls who didn't know anything about comics
and dudes too, and dudes too,
and completely destroyed mainstream comics
to the point where manga is
absolutely dominating them.
And then, you know, it started creeping in the movies
as well. And I think
the two best examples are Disney
Star Wars, which I would argue.
has never been good and Disney Marvel, which was great, which was the greatest franchise of all
time, did something that will never be done again, had 20 plus movies that were varying
degrees of mid to really good, you know, a couple, couple stinkers, but like I would watch the
stinkers over anything we've got post endgame. And over the last five years, especially with
Star Wars, anything associated with Disney, we've seen the steep decline because it's turned
into product and the fans were calling it out
the fans were calling it out with comics
the fans were calling it out with gaming's the fans
were calling out in sci-fi and they were all being
met with the same responses
you're a racist you're a bigot
you're a white supremacist you're
a misogynist blah blah blah blah
blah right and then
about five years later
after end game ends
it turns out wow
gaming did go woke comics did go woke
and guess what
it all turned to crap
you know look at the steep decline we uh even right after spider man no way home we had uh dr strange
mom made almost a billion dollars the last movie they just released the marbles just made 206 million
worldwide that that's a pretty quick decline uh and it and it's and it's not the fans fault
it's the quality so uh yeah it's it's been it's going on it's getting old going on for over a
decade. And as far as Hollywood is concerned, we're in post-apocalyptic
work Hollywood. As far as gaming, it's ramped up there because
they've already destroyed Hollywood comics and everything else. They have
nowhere else to go. Just to wrap this up, sorry, I went a little
long. But with Gamergate 2.0, yeah, which
started last year, arguably,
my friend As from Heel versus Babyface, had a Starfield rant about
pronouns that went mega viral and that really kind of ramp things up and people started looking
into things. Cabrudis on Steam created this aggregate, which is the Sweet Baby Ink
detector. Sweet Baby Inc. is a third party company that basically goes over your story and makes it
woke. You know, they, it's a giant grip. Yes. So I mean, that's putting it in very simplest terms.
but they help write your story
so you can put in underrepresented,
marginalized groups.
It basically makes women fat, ugly lesbians
in most of the games.
We just assume they're lesbians.
We don't know all the time.
They're the ones who always, you know,
put compelled pronouns,
or even the fact that there's pronouns there
when you're playing a video game.
And, yeah, gamers are sick of it,
but they're failing.
And there's a lot more companies
and there's a lot more to it.
but they're failing because gaming is decentralized.
So they can go and do it on the AAA games all they want.
So this is where gamers are completely winning.
So now it's ramped up crazy.
It is Gamergate 2 is getting as crazy if not crazier than Gamergate 1 because, for one, the gamers are winning.
And the gaming journalism is just so bad right now that they're desperate for attention.
and it's almost like
their old trick of stirring things up
and gaslighting isn't even working anymore
you know and when we have
editors from Kotaku
you know who have only fans
trying to you know
call people it with Stellar Blades the latest one
which is nuts
it's got just this really
voluptuous hot woman
and it's a good game
so you have a female lead
and a good game
and now the journalists are complaining about it
when they were calling us the massage
You know, just because we enjoy the female form, you know?
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Welcome back to the Will Kaine Show.
We're talking with Gary Beakler, aka NerdRodic, one of the biggest shows on YouTube.
You brought up cultural Marxism, and that's a thing, and we've talked about it a lot right here.
It's an ideologically driven thing that is populated corporations.
There's also something more shableness.
shallow at play, because I don't think every single person participating in this understands.
They may be inadvertently participating in cultural Marxism, but they're certainly not going
home saying, you know, what we need to do tomorrow.
There's also this mentality of we've got to be everything to everybody.
So what happened in sports is real similar to what you said.
Hey, you know, we've got a lot of women fans that like football, and we should grow it.
You know, we should grow that.
So we start leaning into different things in sports to attract women to sports.
Okay, on the surface, that's fine.
And at the risk of making them all mad, this was kind of my thing with Taylor Swift.
Like Taylor Swift being forced into the NFL entertainment ecosystem, the problem isn't
really Taylor Swift, it's that you're just trying to be everything to everybody.
And when you try to be everything to everybody, you alienate the core audience that was
there in the first place.
You lose who you are.
So to be real, your average hardcore NFL fan doesn't need 10 shots of Taylor Swift during a game.
We don't need that storyline.
We don't need all of that.
And if you make us think that that's the most important thing happening around the game,
then you alienate us while you attempt to attract everybody into the tent.
And you can see the same thing on the homepage of ESPN.com.
It's like, oh, you like NBA?
Here's some WNBA shoved right at your throat.
You know?
You like the NCAA tournament?
I've got 10 headlines for you on the women's tournament.
And it's just like you're just shoving things at me that don't really.
reflect the reason I'm here in the first place, my fandom. And forget about reflect. You've
minimized the reason I'm here. Or in worst cases, you've patronized or villainized the reason
I'm here to your point earlier of I'm a villain or I'm bigoted or I'm small-minded. Maybe so.
But I did want to watch some dudes, I did want to have a beer and watch some dudes compete to
win a game. That was why I came. Yeah. And have fun. What's the common denominator here,
by the way, Marvel Disney, ESPN? Oh, it's Disney.
Uh, but, uh, it's, it's happened everywhere.
I mean, it's when, when, when beer goes woke, like, it's getting a little out of control,
don't you think?
Uh, but, uh, yeah, I used to be a massive football fan.
I used to watch ESPN all the time.
Uh, now, it wasn't going woke because I'm a charger fan.
I'm a San Diego charger fan and I hate Dean Spanos because he ripped my team out of my city.
But, um, no, I can't, I don't watch, I don't watch a single second of football now.
I don't miss it at all.
I like having my Sunday's free.
And, and, but, but that's what this, that's what this takeover does.
It makes you hate what you loved, these things I loved.
I love Star Wars.
I love Star Trek.
I love Doctor Who.
I love Marvel Comics.
Um, I like all the old stuff.
I don't want anything to do with the new stuff anymore.
And, and to make a comic collector of over 40 years, wit, collecting comics, new comics.
That's, man, that is a testament to your commitment to failure.
And, you know, thankfully, the only reason it won't work in gaming, again, is because
it's such a massive industry.
It's spread around the world.
And that's what needs to happen.
If any of this is going to survive, if any movies or TV films, and they will, by the way,
it's going to have to be decentralized.
And Americans will probably have to change their tastes and start watching more Eastern
entertainment and stuff, some of it's pretty damn good.
You know? So it'll always be there.
I don't know if Hollywood will be.
I want to come back to that so we can in on a positive note.
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We're talking with Gary Beakler, aka NerdRodic, one of the biggest shows on YouTube.
My prism of gaming, and I know we're not exclusively focused on gaming, it's more about as an illustration.
My sons play, you know, they're big into soccer and they play FIFA mostly.
And I know, you see what FIFA has done.
So they, you know, they have player ratings, right?
And so messy is a high, you know, he's in the 90s.
And, you know, if you draft of, or not draft, but if you play with the team in the MLS,
your ratings are like in the 60s.
It's just not as good.
So they're balancing skill and it's complicated, like in a good way.
Like this guy has speed, this guy has touch, right?
And so a lot goes into, and the players care about their ratings,
just like they do in Madden or NBA 2K.
Well, no one would pick the women's teams, right,
because the ratings are like in the 50s.
So you'd never want to play with the women's team,
maybe at best 50s.
So they normalize the ratings.
So now, like, the best women's teams have ratings in the 80s and 90s.
And now I've said, my team and my son go,
should we play with the U.S. women's national team
against, you know, Manchester City?
I'm like, why would we do that?
You know, and he's like, well, look at the ratings.
And so it's like forcing me in a really fake
way to choose to play with women when it's not reflective at all, sports is not fantasy.
I mean, it is to some degree.
But the reason I choose one team versus another, because the skill set over here is better
than the skill set over there, and it's what I actually see take place on TV, it's not so
I can like, oh, make the U.S., or make, I don't even know the names of the women's soccer
teams in the U.S., so I can make them, you know, win the Champions League.
I think this is what's happening, what you've described here.
it's what's happening with FIFA.
Women can't describe any soccer team or doesn't, they don't know any names of any
soccer teams, women's soccer teams in the U.S.
Did you see that MLB trailer where they have women playing baseball?
We reacted to that.
That was funny.
Oh, I heard about it.
That was funny.
God.
Yes, they're forcing it.
And it is becoming fantasy, which just, as you said, just completely destroys the entire concept
of sports.
uh you know it right the authenticity the reality of it not knowing what's going to happen you know
uh and it's gaming is what they're hyper focused on and it's going to be in the conversation
for easily another year because as more you know uh gamers do not mess with gamers they have a lot
of time on their hands uh they'll weaponize their autism isn't gaming they will find stuff and they
and they have and it's been great
it's been absolutely great
do not mess with that
it's you know we saw the fandom
starting to fight back early on with like
rings of power when that
terrible show came out the Tolkien
fandom like said no way
we're not putting up with this and that was great to see
and now we're seeing you know there's so much
clapback
you know the Mufossa trailer just got
ratioed on YouTube
and which was hilarious but like
I saw you I saw you posting that
gamers
are a different beast
that are not to be messed with
and it's going to be great. I'm actually
it's been a lot of fun to watch
it's been a lot of fun to watch them fight
back and save their hobby
and find other you know for one
they don't need AAA at all. Not at
all. There'll be enough independent
games to where either
these, I don't know
corporations just don't change
on a dime so
you're seeing a lot of games
bury smaller companies
and maybe that finally buries a corporation
or it makes its conglomerate give up on it.
I don't know.
But I think the fans are going to win this one, ultimately.
Well, to your point of gaming, I believe that I have the stats right,
it's bigger than the movie, music, and something else.
It could be sports.
I don't know.
Not sports, I don't think.
Industries combined.
Like, it's huge.
People our age, Gary, don't, I mean,
who aren't into gaming, don't appreciate how huge that market is.
So here's the positive note I want to end on with you really quickly.
I said this on my show last week.
Like I've watched, I feel like I've watched everything.
I haven't.
But I don't have anything anymore that I want to watch.
So I'm going to lean on you to tell me what I'm missing out there that I need to put on my list to watch.
Just give me two or three, like, things.
I saw you tweeting about Rebel Moon.
I think it was negative, which I didn't watch.
It's horrible.
I watched Doom 1. I didn't watch Do Mo your lawn or something.
Get an early, start your taxes early.
No, okay, what is good that I have seen right now?
The Gentleman is the best show I've seen in a long time.
That is on Netflix.
It's from Guy Ritchie, and it's better than any of the movies he's put out the last couple of years.
It feels very Guy Ritchie.
It is great.
Shogun, very good.
Very good.
I won't say great.
I'll say very good.
And House of the Dragon season two is just around the corner.
I loved House of the Dragon season one.
And I hated the end of Game of Thrones.
I thought season eight was some of the worst television,
the worst dive of a television show of all time.
And I think it's a miracle that they came back and did something
that could end up arguably being better.
So there.
There's War of the Roar heroine,
an anime Lord of the Rings film is coming out at the end of the year and of course there's
Deadpool Wolverine now will probably be pretty good so there's some good stuff all right so I saw
House of Dragon one loved it so I'll be in on House of Dragon two I watch the gentleman uh yeah
really fun I like Guy Ritchie stuff um so yeah I enjoyed that I haven't seen Shogun so the new one there
for me is Shogun to check out um and I'll be checking out your reviews man nerd Rodic on YouTube
huge
huge audience
over a million
man I really appreciate
you giving me
so much time today
it's been
funding it to know you
and have this conversation
thank you
it was great to talk to you
take care
there he goes
okay
Gary Beakler
also known as
nerdotic
this is from
LOD 689
Will Kane does a great job
this should be good
that conversation
going into that conversation
Ha
Das Hippo
I always got to be
were a little careful. I read the name
slowly. We respect you
representing us, bro. We know it ain't
your niche. No, it's not my niche, but
the point of the conversation is it's not just
niched into gaming, though, right? It's the
entire pop culture.
You know, it's all of entertainment.
As we talked about, it's not, it's movies.
I think it's music.
It's sports.
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