Will Cain Country - Revisiting A Conversation On The Best of Movies & Culture w/ The Host of Nerdrotic

Episode Date: December 30, 2024

On this encore episode, Will sits down with Founder and Host of Nerdrotic on YouTube, Gary Buechler AKA "Nerdrotic" for a conversation on the best and worst elements of modern movies & culture.  ...Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How did we lose the video game industry? How did we lose Hollywood and what's it like to fight back and reclaim entertainment from The Woke? Conversation with NerdRodding. It's the Will Kane Show streaming live normally at 12 o'clock Eastern time every Monday through Thursday at Fox News, YouTube and Fox News Facebook. but always available on your time by subscribing at Apple or on Spotify. This week, during the holiday season, we are revisiting some of the greatest hits,
Starting point is 00:00:38 some of the best conversations from our year here on The Wilcane Show. Gary Beakler is also known as NerdRodic. He has a huge following on YouTube, where he breaks down pop culture, movies, and some would say video games. So we revisited that conversation talking about GamerGate and how Hollywood went woke. Here is Gary Beechler. He is also NerdRodic. He's one of the biggest streamers on YouTube across the internet.
Starting point is 00:01:02 He's got well over a million subscribers. He reviews pop culture. He reviews gaming and entertainment. And he's been doing it for quite some time. Gary, I don't know. This is you going mainstream. This might be me going mainstream on YouTube. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I just went to Vegas. I put on a couple pounds. So that's the only bigger I feel right now. But yeah, and anybody who watches me knows I'm a huge game. gaming fan, massive gamer, play all the time. No, you were talking earlier about where all this started. And as far as the customer movement, I hate the word consumer, it really did start with GamerGate, right?
Starting point is 00:01:45 GamerGate has some very nefarious origins that we don't need to get into, but ultimately it was a customer movement. It was fans going, you know, I've loved this stuff for so long and something feels a little off. All of a sudden, you hate us. And the Royal U here is is the gaming industry and some of the designers and mostly the journalism. Entertainment journalism has been a poison, has been cancer to fandom for well over a decade now. When it used to be just, hey, let's review a game or let's review a movie or a comic book. And then it became, well, you know, the biggest problem here is the fans, obviously, the toxic fans.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Yeah, you know what actually that makes me think immediately, Gary? So before I was at Fox, I don't know how familiar you are with me or my career, and I don't assume that you need to be or are, but I was in sports for like, you know, five years. I was at ESPN. And I had the Will Kane show on ESPN. And I never know, I don't know that I rationalized an analogy to what you just described in gaming. But I could instinctively feel this. I came at sports from the prism of a fan. Look, I wasn't a pro athlete and I wasn't a sports journalist. And one of the things I noticed was the antipathy, towards the fan in sports. It's like, you know, everything became an attack on the fan. And before you know, every fan playing the, what's the game where you, the circle game, became making a white supremacist symbol, right? And then every fan's a racist. And it was driven by, it felt like the sports journalists who hated the people that are actually, as you point out, the customers of the entire business, the entire model of sports. And I wanted to center my show I'm like, hey, like, I love fans.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Like, fans are what makes this thing go around, not just, like, from a business standpoint, but from a passion standpoint. Like, I'm a passionate fan. And why do you hate the passionate fan of sports? It's fascinating that journalism did the same thing in gaming. Your journalism recognized early that the fan was eventually, whether it was subliminal or not, the fan was eventually going to become their competition because, thanks to social media, good or bad, we're more connected now than ever, and our opinions are out there,
Starting point is 00:03:59 right or wrong and so many of us are not afraid to give them now and that really bothers creatives and that really bothers the journalists who had power had a lot of power over the creatives the creatives basically had to go to them to get their thing pushed out and it was a very symbiotic relationship for a long time i use the term shill because that's mostly what they were we weren't getting honest opinions pretty much ever right and then when guys like myself or my friend Jeremy from Geeks and Gamers or all my co-hosts on Friday Night Tights were just guys in our rooms filled with way too many toys, just expressing our opinions going, you know, like, we used to really love this stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:40 We want to still love this stuff. And all we were met with every time we can put legitimate criticisms, by the way, we might flare it with a little comedy or failed comedy in my case. But it was honest. It was authentic. And that's the one thing. Hollywood's having a hard time dealing with the AAA gaming companies are having
Starting point is 00:05:00 hard time dealing with and media overall is having a hard time dealing with is authenticity and that's what people are looking for in art, in criticism, and just basic opinion. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I want to come back to the gaming
Starting point is 00:05:16 foundations of this for a moment, but I want to kind of set up see if you accept my premise that I said before you came in. And I'll say this as someone who wasn't coming at from a critical standpoint, I was just a consumer or a customer, right? It did feel, at least in pop culture, like we were a little bit in a golden age, especially in television.
Starting point is 00:05:35 So in the 90s, I would say movies were the thing. And I don't know if we were in a golden age of movies or not, but it felt like I used to go to the movies all the time. Now I'd never go to the movies. But it transitioned to television, and it felt like we always had something good to watch there for about a 10, maybe even a 15-year period. Like, from the Sopranos to the Wire, to Breaking Bad, to whatever, it was always something good going on.
Starting point is 00:06:04 But the reason I want you to check that premise is that was also a world that predated sort of the fan-driven feedback on those things. Like, it was before social media, you know, mid-2000s because, you know, whatever, Twitter takes off in like 2009, 10, YouTube a little before that, probably. do you think I was deluded during that period that it was a golden age or was it truly a golden age and for some reason even though they still had the journalist gatekeepers they were making better content it was a golden age and it was the end of the golden age I mean there's been forums going back 20 years and that's where fandom had been relegated to and fandom particularly with fandom
Starting point is 00:06:45 not just you know with shows you know general audience shows that was very neat that was very neat That's kind of where it needed to stay. But yeah, we had a brilliant run of HBO shows, premium format shows, and that was supposed to be the future. That really was. And that ended 2015, 2016. Now, we can all assume what happened that year when Hollywood went crazy. But that's where they really put their foot on the gas pedal on woke Hollywood,
Starting point is 00:07:15 driving in the message. And that's where we started hearing like insert here theory. you know, CRT or alphabet theory, as I call it. And that's really where it started getting pushed. I mean, it had its origins earlier. But no, we were just getting good normal shows because there was talented people creating them and what Hollywood has done and what gaming has tried to do
Starting point is 00:07:41 but can't and definitely comics. Nobody reads comics anymore is they've pushed out all the talented people with diversity hires. and now we have a bunch of inexperienced, untalented people who are completely, who are in, I say in Hollywood, you know, directors are cast now. They're not hired, they're cast. And shows are produced.
Starting point is 00:08:03 They're not created anymore. And that's the problem. There's too many cooks in the kitchen, way too many producers. There's too many rules. There's, you know, there's a slavish adherence to, and now it's a contractual adherence to the message that is absolutely destroyed art.
Starting point is 00:08:18 You know, Jerry, we'll probably talk about that. Jerry Seinfeld broke that down perfectly recently again, and this is not an old argument. Yeah, let's talk about Jerry Seinfeld. So I'm always like, I want to, I ask you to check my premises. I always like to push back on myself. Like, okay, if I hear something I really like and I tend to agree with, then I kind of almost want to play devil's advocate with myself. Are you sure? You got this right.
Starting point is 00:08:44 So I hear Jerry Seinfeld say, you know, the problem with comedy. is it's all run by a boardroom now, and the boardroom is run by a mentality, like you just said, not just a mentality, but like, we've got to check the DEI boxes, we've got to ensure that the comedy passes the doesn't offend the wrong people test. And I hear all that, I'm like, yeah, that's absolutely true. But then I, pushing back on myself, Gary, I say, well, what about South Park? What about curb your enthusiasm? Not politically correct. And I think that Jerry did go on in that interview to say that Larry David was, was, was, grandfathered in to that and so would the South Park have been but what about and maybe the same could
Starting point is 00:09:24 be said for mostly sunny uh in Philadelphia it's it's been around long enough to have survived this shift entertainment but I know I saw Shane Gillis just I think he's getting a new a new deal right a new show or something like that he's sort of been embraced and his entertainment fractures and you have different outlets I just wonder if it's true maybe is Jerry just talking about like ABC, CBS, and NBC and networks, or now that we have so many different outlets, are we actually still capable of getting that stuff just more in fractured places? Yeah, it's being decentralized. What Jerry says in, he's had two articles come out, but what he says in one of them is, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:08 stand-up comedy. Comedy's still alive. It's still thriving, but it's thriving in stand-up because you have no middleman. the audience is right there and if you screw up you know right away and that's what more that's authenticity is the currency of the future that's what more people are looking for you got a chat going right now that you're interacting with that's what people are moving to but comedy what jeremy is why just keep saying jeremy jeremy's going to laugh my friend jeremy uh jerry seinfelds said basically was it it's dead in hollywood it's dead in hollywood it's it if you go
Starting point is 00:10:44 back and look at the rated our comedy. The last one, we just had anyone but you, right, really mid-comedy, made over $200 million. That was the first rated R comedy to make over $200 million since 2016. And by the way, that comedy was Bridget Jones baby to make you even more depressed. But, like, we don't get the hangover anymore. We don't get Dodgeball. I saw it. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, we don't get. I saw it. Real quick. I saw anyone but you on an airplane, and I'm curious what, like, it's not good. But can we just, it's not good. But, you know, I do think, like, for a lot of guys who probably, you and I probably have
Starting point is 00:11:27 some very similar views on a lot of things. Like, Sidney Sweeney has been adopted, and she definitely has her assets. But Sidney Sweeney has been adopted as this, like, anti-woke thing. And then there was that producer who was like, I don't get the Sidney-Sweeney thing. She's not a good actress and all that. I mean, anything but you is not going to be. Sydney Sweeney's nomination into No, I'm actually really good.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Check this movie out. No, she has become a huge star off of a massive flop, Madam Webb, and her attitude after it, which was really good. And she's really hot. And yes, I can think of a couple of reasons why anyone but you did well. But other than that, it was a complete fantasy, for one, you know, it's all centered around a lesbian destination wedding.
Starting point is 00:12:13 So the fact that they stayed together that long was the joke of the film. But yeah, I think it's great that I've been putting her on my thumbnails. What the hell? It works. You know, no shame to my game. But I think it's just people want, you know, we need to like stop hot phobia. My friend Chris Gore coined that term. Stop hot phobia.
Starting point is 00:12:38 We've had this, especially in video games, they're trying to make everybody ugly. It's like bring back hot women. It's a good thing. Makes people happy. Men and women. Well, and if we're really being authentic, to your point, I mean, that's why I watched, and that's why I stuck around for two hours.
Starting point is 00:12:57 It's a lot of Sidney-Sweeney. And, you know, it keeps your attention. So, yeah. So back to Jerry Seinfeld, though. You think, are we seeing a market correction, though? So you say stand up. is a way for the talented person to reach directly to the audience and not have it be filtered through a boardroom, right? Do you think those other examples that I gave are all just
Starting point is 00:13:25 grandfathered in to what happened? Always Sunny, Curb Your Enthusiasm, South Park, they're just grandfathered in. Will we ever see another one? Now that we have so many options in terms of distribution, there's more boardrooms, but with more boardrooms, you presumably have more opportunity for better boardrooms, right? So will we see more of those types of shows? I don't think so. I think they, Jerry even talks about this in a later in the interview that he says Kerb was grandfathered in and absolutely South Park was grandfathered in.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Always Sunny, brilliant show. Grandfathered in. But these are all shows in like multiple, multiple seasons. I think always sunny's going to be up to 18 at some point. South Park is at 26. And if you go back and look, what dominated streaming last year? Shows that were over a decade old suits, like ruled the summer. And also on that list, there's a top 10 list with like one new show.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And you see older comedies, including Seinfeld. So there's still, there's still an audience for it. To answer for it, there's still an audience for superhero movies. There's still an audience for movies. There's still an audience for comedy. and they're just finding other places for it. Like you said, it's fracturing, and that's good. We need entertainment completely decentralized.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I'm all for it. That's why, again, like, some of the most interesting things happening right now are in stand-up comedy, and most people aren't seeing it because, well, you'll have to go. I was privileged enough to pay a lot of money, overpay for a ticket to go see the opening of the mothership. Joe Rogan's the mothership in Austin. And I got to see Joe Rogan, Dave Chappelle, and it was brilliant. It was absolutely brilliant.
Starting point is 00:15:12 So I think comedy is, it's a sign that Hollywood is dying because they have completely abandoned the one thing that they were built on. Their first movie star was Chaplin technically. And comedy is the one thing that pushes the boundaries that puts a mirror to society and to Hollywood. And, you know, unfortunately, all Hollywood wants to do it, you know, I'm fine with them putting a mirror to society. but right now they're putting like a lens to society. They always bring up that term lens. And it's really, it really comes from one source and it's getting tiresome. And there's this huge divide between the audience and corporate Hollywood, corporate gaming, corporate comics, corporate news, everything right now.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And they're going to have a hard time dealing with it as we can talk to each other more. Well, look, I take a huge amount of inspiration. Yeah, the person that jokes that, you know, Gary's going mainstream, yeah, I mean, I work for Fox. But I take a huge amount of inspiration from you, and even though I totally disagree with him on something, like a streamer like Destiny, because, and I can't speak to every opinion, and I can't speak to every show on everyone. But there is a sense of authenticity, a lack of polish, you know, the comments are coming in right now, and I want to interact with them. And that's my goal for this show. It was when I had that radio show on ESPN. It's just like, I want to be, yeah, I don't want to speak down and at people.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I want to speak with people, right? And, but I need you to do something for me. So, like, I'm not a gamer. I'm like every kid. I played Tecmo Bowl. I played Madden. I played everything, you know, NHL hockey through the 90s. But I never was into fantasy games.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I think I played James Bond for some first-person shooter back in the day a little bit. But you know what I liked about that game, Gary's, I like that my buddies and I could all get in a room together and then trash talk each other and do that and compete against each other. So we never moved to sort of the online. Oh, I did Call of Duty for a little bit. Don't go anywhere. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back with more from Nerd Rodding on the wheel game. It is time to take the quiz.
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Starting point is 00:17:55 We talked about this shift from the golden age to where we got. And you pinpointed like 14, 15. And that is like the rough timeline of Gamergate. So what I'm getting at with my lack of knowledge when it comes to gaming is, is I'm not all the way plugged in on GamerGate, but it does seem to have been the canary and the coal mine of everything that then unfolded after that. Can you just get, so can you just give me the cliff notes on it?
Starting point is 00:18:17 I know you could do not just a show, but you could do, and you have done, episodic seasons on GamerGate, but can you give me the cliff notes of what went down? Well, I'm not a massive gamer either, but I am a massive nerd, and most of my friends are. So Gamergate starts with a woman who slept with a few journalists to get some positive reviews. That's pretty much it. But it turns into there is a lot of intersectionality invading games. And it really sparked a whole cottage industry on YouTube. And it really sparked this criticism of calling out Walt Culture.
Starting point is 00:18:59 wasn't really even called that back then maybe it was this is before my time on youtube then uh it kind of dies out because a lot of the voices in there uh either fade away or they turned it out to be a bunch bunch of frauds there's still a lot that are still around there's razor fist there's sargon there's a lot of guys who are still around right now um the people spear spearhead spearheading it now i would say my friend jeremy from geeks and gamers uh cabrudis rums out there on twitter uh but so it bled into comic books and then sci-fi and fantasy books this is the one that's lesser known
Starting point is 00:19:34 it was called the sad puppies incident and it was basically a bunch of cultural Marxists invading sci-fi and fantasy and taking over the awards and not awarding anybody who doesn't have the politics and it's way deeper than that again
Starting point is 00:19:49 in comic books it turned into we needed half the industry needed to employ women because of a 2014 Facebook poll that said that, hey, women are interested in comics too. Half the population is a potential customer. Wow, great science
Starting point is 00:20:05 right there. So they decided to get rid of all the old guys, bring in a bunch of girls who didn't know anything about comics and dudes too, and dudes too, and completely destroyed mainstream comics to the point where manga is absolutely dominating them. And then, you know, it started creeping in the movies
Starting point is 00:20:21 as well. And I think the two best examples are Disney Star Wars, which I would argue. has never been good and Disney Marvel, which was great, which was the greatest franchise of all time, did something that will never be done again, had 20 plus movies that were varying degrees of mid to really good, you know, a couple, couple stinkers, but like I would watch the stinkers over anything we've got post endgame. And over the last five years, especially with Star Wars, anything associated with Disney, we've seen the steep decline because it's turned
Starting point is 00:20:55 into product and the fans were calling it out the fans were calling it out with comics the fans were calling it out with gaming's the fans were calling out in sci-fi and they were all being met with the same responses you're a racist you're a bigot you're a white supremacist you're a misogynist blah blah blah blah
Starting point is 00:21:12 blah right and then about five years later after end game ends it turns out wow gaming did go woke comics did go woke and guess what it all turned to crap you know look at the steep decline we uh even right after spider man no way home we had uh dr strange
Starting point is 00:21:32 mom made almost a billion dollars the last movie they just released the marbles just made 206 million worldwide that that's a pretty quick decline uh and it and it's and it's not the fans fault it's the quality so uh yeah it's it's been it's going on it's getting old going on for over a decade. And as far as Hollywood is concerned, we're in post-apocalyptic work Hollywood. As far as gaming, it's ramped up there because they've already destroyed Hollywood comics and everything else. They have nowhere else to go. Just to wrap this up, sorry, I went a little long. But with Gamergate 2.0, yeah, which
Starting point is 00:22:08 started last year, arguably, my friend As from Heel versus Babyface, had a Starfield rant about pronouns that went mega viral and that really kind of ramp things up and people started looking into things. Cabrudis on Steam created this aggregate, which is the Sweet Baby Ink detector. Sweet Baby Inc. is a third party company that basically goes over your story and makes it woke. You know, they, it's a giant grip. Yes. So I mean, that's putting it in very simplest terms. but they help write your story so you can put in underrepresented,
Starting point is 00:22:52 marginalized groups. It basically makes women fat, ugly lesbians in most of the games. We just assume they're lesbians. We don't know all the time. They're the ones who always, you know, put compelled pronouns, or even the fact that there's pronouns there
Starting point is 00:23:07 when you're playing a video game. And, yeah, gamers are sick of it, but they're failing. And there's a lot more companies and there's a lot more to it. but they're failing because gaming is decentralized. So they can go and do it on the AAA games all they want. So this is where gamers are completely winning.
Starting point is 00:23:26 So now it's ramped up crazy. It is Gamergate 2 is getting as crazy if not crazier than Gamergate 1 because, for one, the gamers are winning. And the gaming journalism is just so bad right now that they're desperate for attention. and it's almost like their old trick of stirring things up and gaslighting isn't even working anymore you know and when we have editors from Kotaku
Starting point is 00:23:55 you know who have only fans trying to you know call people it with Stellar Blades the latest one which is nuts it's got just this really voluptuous hot woman and it's a good game so you have a female lead
Starting point is 00:24:09 and a good game and now the journalists are complaining about it when they were calling us the massage You know, just because we enjoy the female form, you know? Don't go anywhere. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back with more from Nerd Roddick on The Will Kane Show. The show that tackles the latest headlines from a unique perspective.
Starting point is 00:24:29 The Will Kane Show. For a limited time at McDonald's, enjoy the tasty breakfast trio. Your choice of chicken or sausage McMuffin or McGrittles with a hash brown and a small iced coffee for five bucks plus tax. Available until 11 a.m. at participating McDonald's restaurants. Fresh Excludes flavored iced coffee and delivery. Welcome back to the Will Kaine Show. We're talking with Gary Beakler, aka NerdRodic, one of the biggest shows on YouTube. You brought up cultural Marxism, and that's a thing, and we've talked about it a lot right here.
Starting point is 00:25:10 It's an ideologically driven thing that is populated corporations. There's also something more shableness. shallow at play, because I don't think every single person participating in this understands. They may be inadvertently participating in cultural Marxism, but they're certainly not going home saying, you know, what we need to do tomorrow. There's also this mentality of we've got to be everything to everybody. So what happened in sports is real similar to what you said. Hey, you know, we've got a lot of women fans that like football, and we should grow it.
Starting point is 00:25:38 You know, we should grow that. So we start leaning into different things in sports to attract women to sports. Okay, on the surface, that's fine. And at the risk of making them all mad, this was kind of my thing with Taylor Swift. Like Taylor Swift being forced into the NFL entertainment ecosystem, the problem isn't really Taylor Swift, it's that you're just trying to be everything to everybody. And when you try to be everything to everybody, you alienate the core audience that was there in the first place.
Starting point is 00:26:06 You lose who you are. So to be real, your average hardcore NFL fan doesn't need 10 shots of Taylor Swift during a game. We don't need that storyline. We don't need all of that. And if you make us think that that's the most important thing happening around the game, then you alienate us while you attempt to attract everybody into the tent. And you can see the same thing on the homepage of ESPN.com. It's like, oh, you like NBA?
Starting point is 00:26:32 Here's some WNBA shoved right at your throat. You know? You like the NCAA tournament? I've got 10 headlines for you on the women's tournament. And it's just like you're just shoving things at me that don't really. reflect the reason I'm here in the first place, my fandom. And forget about reflect. You've minimized the reason I'm here. Or in worst cases, you've patronized or villainized the reason I'm here to your point earlier of I'm a villain or I'm bigoted or I'm small-minded. Maybe so.
Starting point is 00:27:02 But I did want to watch some dudes, I did want to have a beer and watch some dudes compete to win a game. That was why I came. Yeah. And have fun. What's the common denominator here, by the way, Marvel Disney, ESPN? Oh, it's Disney. Uh, but, uh, it's, it's happened everywhere. I mean, it's when, when, when beer goes woke, like, it's getting a little out of control, don't you think? Uh, but, uh, yeah, I used to be a massive football fan. I used to watch ESPN all the time.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Uh, now, it wasn't going woke because I'm a charger fan. I'm a San Diego charger fan and I hate Dean Spanos because he ripped my team out of my city. But, um, no, I can't, I don't watch, I don't watch a single second of football now. I don't miss it at all. I like having my Sunday's free. And, and, but, but that's what this, that's what this takeover does. It makes you hate what you loved, these things I loved. I love Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I love Star Trek. I love Doctor Who. I love Marvel Comics. Um, I like all the old stuff. I don't want anything to do with the new stuff anymore. And, and to make a comic collector of over 40 years, wit, collecting comics, new comics. That's, man, that is a testament to your commitment to failure. And, you know, thankfully, the only reason it won't work in gaming, again, is because
Starting point is 00:28:26 it's such a massive industry. It's spread around the world. And that's what needs to happen. If any of this is going to survive, if any movies or TV films, and they will, by the way, it's going to have to be decentralized. And Americans will probably have to change their tastes and start watching more Eastern entertainment and stuff, some of it's pretty damn good. You know? So it'll always be there.
Starting point is 00:28:47 I don't know if Hollywood will be. I want to come back to that so we can in on a positive note. Don't go anywhere. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back with more from Nerd Rodic on The Will Cain Show. More of the Will Cain Show next. Listen to the all-new Brett Bear podcast featuring Common Ground, in-depth talks with lawmakers from opposite sides of the aisle, along with all your Brett Bear favorites like his All-Star panel and much more.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Available now at Fox Newspodcasts.com or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the will kane show. We're talking with Gary Beakler, aka NerdRodic, one of the biggest shows on YouTube. My prism of gaming, and I know we're not exclusively focused on gaming, it's more about as an illustration. My sons play, you know, they're big into soccer and they play FIFA mostly. And I know, you see what FIFA has done. So they, you know, they have player ratings, right? And so messy is a high, you know, he's in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And, you know, if you draft of, or not draft, but if you play with the team in the MLS, your ratings are like in the 60s. It's just not as good. So they're balancing skill and it's complicated, like in a good way. Like this guy has speed, this guy has touch, right? And so a lot goes into, and the players care about their ratings, just like they do in Madden or NBA 2K. Well, no one would pick the women's teams, right,
Starting point is 00:30:15 because the ratings are like in the 50s. So you'd never want to play with the women's team, maybe at best 50s. So they normalize the ratings. So now, like, the best women's teams have ratings in the 80s and 90s. And now I've said, my team and my son go, should we play with the U.S. women's national team against, you know, Manchester City?
Starting point is 00:30:32 I'm like, why would we do that? You know, and he's like, well, look at the ratings. And so it's like forcing me in a really fake way to choose to play with women when it's not reflective at all, sports is not fantasy. I mean, it is to some degree. But the reason I choose one team versus another, because the skill set over here is better than the skill set over there, and it's what I actually see take place on TV, it's not so I can like, oh, make the U.S., or make, I don't even know the names of the women's soccer
Starting point is 00:31:01 teams in the U.S., so I can make them, you know, win the Champions League. I think this is what's happening, what you've described here. it's what's happening with FIFA. Women can't describe any soccer team or doesn't, they don't know any names of any soccer teams, women's soccer teams in the U.S. Did you see that MLB trailer where they have women playing baseball? We reacted to that. That was funny.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Oh, I heard about it. That was funny. God. Yes, they're forcing it. And it is becoming fantasy, which just, as you said, just completely destroys the entire concept of sports. uh you know it right the authenticity the reality of it not knowing what's going to happen you know uh and it's gaming is what they're hyper focused on and it's going to be in the conversation
Starting point is 00:31:56 for easily another year because as more you know uh gamers do not mess with gamers they have a lot of time on their hands uh they'll weaponize their autism isn't gaming they will find stuff and they and they have and it's been great it's been absolutely great do not mess with that it's you know we saw the fandom starting to fight back early on with like rings of power when that
Starting point is 00:32:21 terrible show came out the Tolkien fandom like said no way we're not putting up with this and that was great to see and now we're seeing you know there's so much clapback you know the Mufossa trailer just got ratioed on YouTube and which was hilarious but like
Starting point is 00:32:37 I saw you I saw you posting that gamers are a different beast that are not to be messed with and it's going to be great. I'm actually it's been a lot of fun to watch it's been a lot of fun to watch them fight back and save their hobby
Starting point is 00:32:51 and find other you know for one they don't need AAA at all. Not at all. There'll be enough independent games to where either these, I don't know corporations just don't change on a dime so you're seeing a lot of games
Starting point is 00:33:07 bury smaller companies and maybe that finally buries a corporation or it makes its conglomerate give up on it. I don't know. But I think the fans are going to win this one, ultimately. Well, to your point of gaming, I believe that I have the stats right, it's bigger than the movie, music, and something else. It could be sports.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I don't know. Not sports, I don't think. Industries combined. Like, it's huge. People our age, Gary, don't, I mean, who aren't into gaming, don't appreciate how huge that market is. So here's the positive note I want to end on with you really quickly. I said this on my show last week.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Like I've watched, I feel like I've watched everything. I haven't. But I don't have anything anymore that I want to watch. So I'm going to lean on you to tell me what I'm missing out there that I need to put on my list to watch. Just give me two or three, like, things. I saw you tweeting about Rebel Moon. I think it was negative, which I didn't watch. It's horrible.
Starting point is 00:34:07 I watched Doom 1. I didn't watch Do Mo your lawn or something. Get an early, start your taxes early. No, okay, what is good that I have seen right now? The Gentleman is the best show I've seen in a long time. That is on Netflix. It's from Guy Ritchie, and it's better than any of the movies he's put out the last couple of years. It feels very Guy Ritchie. It is great.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Shogun, very good. Very good. I won't say great. I'll say very good. And House of the Dragon season two is just around the corner. I loved House of the Dragon season one. And I hated the end of Game of Thrones. I thought season eight was some of the worst television,
Starting point is 00:34:52 the worst dive of a television show of all time. And I think it's a miracle that they came back and did something that could end up arguably being better. So there. There's War of the Roar heroine, an anime Lord of the Rings film is coming out at the end of the year and of course there's Deadpool Wolverine now will probably be pretty good so there's some good stuff all right so I saw House of Dragon one loved it so I'll be in on House of Dragon two I watch the gentleman uh yeah
Starting point is 00:35:22 really fun I like Guy Ritchie stuff um so yeah I enjoyed that I haven't seen Shogun so the new one there for me is Shogun to check out um and I'll be checking out your reviews man nerd Rodic on YouTube huge huge audience over a million man I really appreciate you giving me so much time today
Starting point is 00:35:41 it's been funding it to know you and have this conversation thank you it was great to talk to you take care there he goes okay
Starting point is 00:35:49 Gary Beakler also known as nerdotic this is from LOD 689 Will Kane does a great job this should be good that conversation
Starting point is 00:36:00 going into that conversation Ha Das Hippo I always got to be were a little careful. I read the name slowly. We respect you representing us, bro. We know it ain't your niche. No, it's not my niche, but
Starting point is 00:36:14 the point of the conversation is it's not just niched into gaming, though, right? It's the entire pop culture. You know, it's all of entertainment. As we talked about, it's not, it's movies. I think it's music. It's sports. Coop says, could they make
Starting point is 00:36:32 all in the family or Archie Bunker today? Well, Jerry Seinfeld says, no way. They never could. They never could. That's going to do it for us today, but we will continue into the new year to set us up for a wonderful 2025 with the best of the Wilkinship. Listen ad-free with a Fox News podcast. Plus subscription on Apple Podcasts, and Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show ad-free on the Amazon music app. This is Jason Chaffetz from the Jason in the House podcast. Join me every Monday to dive deeper into the latest political headlines and chat with remarkable guests.
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