Will Cain Country - RFK Jr, Trump's Savior? PLUS, Kat Timpf On What Divides Us
Episode Date: August 21, 2024Story #1: This election is the equivalent of the University of Michigan taking on Kent State. It should be a blowout. Night two of the DNC saw what was once the A-team for the Democrats set the stage... for the JV squad of Vice President Kamala Harris and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz. How on earth is this a close race? And what is wrong with Tim Walz? Story #2: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.'s campaign looks like it is coming to an end. How will independants handle it? Plus, how to think outside of the box and outside of the two parties in politics, but most importantly life, with the co-host of Gutfeld! and author of I Used to Like You Until..(How Binary Thinking Divides Us), Kat Timpf. Story #3: What are the most unattractive hobbies for men? Can they justify that video game obsession? And the sports media world finally admits former Miami Dolphins head coach Brian Flores was fired on merit and not because of race. But only after hearing it from Miami Dolphins' Quarterback Tua Tagovailoa Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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One.
This is the University of Michigan taking on Kent State.
This should be a blowout.
This is an A team versus a B team.
Night two of the D&C saw what once was the A team of the Democratic Party
set the stage up for the JV squad.
And with all the talk about what is weird,
let's get into Tim Waltz.
Something's off.
Something's weird.
Something is not right with Tim Waltz.
And something is very, very wrong with the economic.
policies that could lead to a cratering on the economy of America.
Two, reject binary thinking.
Think critically.
Outside the box and outside of the two parties.
A conversation with Kat Tim.
And three, Brian Flores told Tua to Tunga Viloa,
the quarterback of the Miami Dolphins, that he wasn't any good,
that he didn't belong, that he's the reason that they lose.
every day when Flores was the head coach of the Miami Dolphins.
But I thought the reason he was no longer employed at the highest levels of the NFL
was because of racism.
It couldn't be simply the personality of Brian Flores.
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scenario your girl walks in you're sitting in your living room you're relaxed you're comfy
some sweats maybe even you're a little dressed up because she bought you some uh lulu lemon or
vorey so you're in your aath leisure and you're playing a little madden you're playing a
little college football 25 you're playing fiefle you're playing call of duty is there any bigger
turnoff for your lady not just your lady friend but your special lady than you playing video games so says
a commentator on x at the most unattractive hobby for a man is video games perhaps not
uncoincidentally a lot of video game players back in the studios in new york city of the will
cane show the willisha manning the control room is i think
chock full of unattractive-hobbied men.
And I thought about this, and I want to defend you guys because, hey, you're my ride or
dies, you're my team, you're my militia, you're the willitia.
And also, it would just play really good on social media for me to defend a bunch of dudes
who sit around on social media wearing jerseys and playing college football 25.
But I got to tell you, she might have a point.
If you walk in on a dude playing video games, it's...
I would just have to think
among the things that
climb the peak of Mount masculinity,
it falls short.
It's a small ant-hill.
It's turnoff for the ladies.
Silence.
No defense from the boys in New York.
You can't even mount.
That's how masculated you are.
Oh, no.
You're so...
I think it's full.
fine you're so tim waltz
you're so tim waltz
to america's Kamala harris
you know
what it means there's something off
about tim waltz there's nothing wrong with playing
video games yeah i think i look just
fine in my athleisure but uh
i mean start splanting cover two load
in the box all the different intricacies that go
into this game and just kind of show
off the brain a little that goes into it i haven't played
sci-fi video games it's fine
yeah
oh i trust trust me boys you start playing
And you're explaining cover two, she starts purring.
Yeah, that's what's working for you.
So you're saying when I go out this weekend, I shouldn't tell her about my road to glory player.
No.
Yeah, I think that's the only thing worse is she walks in on you playing video games versus she runs into you at a bar and you start telling her about your video games.
Yeah, you're scoring, I'm sure.
You're scoring in college football 25 and in the bar.
But here is the debate.
the question for us today. We'll hit this a little bit later on the Wheel Cane Show. What is the converse?
What is the most unattractive hobby for a woman? What's the biggest turnoff for you if you find
out she's really into, say, needlepoint or being an Instagram influencer? What's the biggest
turnoff for men when it comes to women? We're going to rank some of these a little bit later
on the Wilcane show both ways. You know, video games for men, Instagram influencer for women.
and that's come up a little bit later.
You can join in.
Jump into the comment section on YouTube.
Hit us up on social media.
We'll bring you here into the Will Cane show.
But it was night two at the DNC.
So let's break down our three takeaways from night two at the Democratic National Convention.
Story number one.
Night two at the DNC saw your varsity players take center stage.
When Barack Obama took the stage last night,
one can disagree with his politics one can disagree with his philosophy but i think one has to come
away going that's when politics was at the top of its game brock obama can deliver a speech
brock obama can command a crowd you'll soon hear from as well bill clinton and you'll remember
what it meant to actually be able to execute the exes and o's the cover two
in the words of young establishment, James.
The actual plays of politics, you saw varsity.
You saw a team.
It only puts into context, I think, for me, where we are at this point in 2024.
Kamala Harris and Tim Walts represent junior varsity.
They represent, as Jessica Tarlov told us in Monday's episode of the Will Cain Show,
a blank slate.
They represent a return to an election for the 19th,
straight year. It is simply a referendum on Donald Trump. But because everything in politics since
2016 has been about Donald Trump, that has meant that not only any manner of personality, but any
manner of policy has been able to sneak by in the shadows of darkness of the night. Lack of
attention. And all of a sudden, you're running out there, your junior varsity quarterback, hoping to win
the state championship.
Here's what I mean.
First, Tim Walts.
Something is off with Tim Walts.
Yesterday on the Will Cane show,
Trey Gowdy said Republicans win when we talk about the issues
and when we talk about policy.
Democrats win when Republicans talk about personality,
when they make ad hominem attacks.
And I think that's right from Gowdy.
I think it's unwise.
I think it's not smart to talk about
whether or not Kamala Harris is black or Indian,
to talk about Kamala Harris's LSAT score.
It's better to talk about the failed job of protecting the American border.
But I also can't step away from also saying it like it is.
And something's off with Tim Walts.
I mean, I want you to look.
Last night Kamala Harris and Tim Walts took to the stage
at Ficer Arena in Milwaukee, Wisconsin,
the place where, you know, just one month ago,
the Republican Party held their convention.
and here comes Tim Walts walking out
and I'm just going to tell you right now
no matter what Mina Combs of ESPN says
about her preferred form of masculinity
and that Tim Walts represents a less toxic form of masculinity
I don't know a single dude
over the age of 16
that acts like that
that's the bottom line
I don't know anybody
and I don't know if you do either
who walks out of
out and does the double-hand wave overhead, overhead double-hand wave.
Okay?
That's just, that's the cold, hard truth.
That's much less a guy who's served in the military, much less a high school football coach.
Now, maybe Tim Waltz is playing a character.
Maybe he's playing this character that we've been delivered for probably some 20-odd years in America.
and that's the bumbling middle-aged white dude dad in a sitcom who gets everything wrong
and is the butt of the joke.
Maybe that's the character that Democrats want to see.
Maybe that's their definition of masculinity.
But what I'm seeing right there from Tim Walts, I'll just say this.
It's weird.
If that's how we're going to define modern political discourse, what's normal and what's weird,
that right there is weird.
And it's not the weirdest thing about Tim Walts.
we've gone over this
over the last couple of weeks
since he's been named
the vice presidential candidate
under Kamala Harris.
Tim Walts has trouble with the truth
and that is the truth.
Now if one is sitting here listening to me
and I got some notes last week
when I hosted Jesse Waters' primetime
from some very notable figures
over the last
half century in media,
very notable, formative figures
in my life and my career
in terms of who I looked up to on the TV
and who I've had the privilege now
to get to know. I got some notes from people saying, how can you pull out Tim Walts's
tenuous relationship with the truth when his opposition is Donald Trump, who has a tenuous
relationship with the truth? That's always the rebuttal. First of all, that's not a good enough
rebuttal. It's just not. It's not good enough to say, oh yeah, but you are too. What more,
I think these conversations have to delve into specifics. Point out to me the lie. I'm not going to
sit here and say Donald Trump is a paragon of 100% honesty, that he never exaggerates,
that he never isn't guilty of hyperbole, or that he's always told the truth.
But I think we have to go through them one by one because I know that most of the things
that have been called lies have been truths, and most things that have been called truths
have been lies since center stage was taken over by Donald Trump.
But Tim Waltz, in a short period of time, walking out,
with both hands raised above his head, doing a double wave to the crowd,
straight arm, no bend in the elbow,
since he's walked out on center stage with that wave,
has been exposed for a very, very, very tenuous relationship with the truth.
Here, we've walked through it.
He has, A, exaggerated his military service,
not his 24 years in service,
which is commendable and should be applauded, should be honored.
But he has, and this.
This is simply a fact, exaggerated that service to make the electorate, once he became a politician, believe he is deployed into combat.
And he is not.
He has put out press release.
He has made statements saying he's carried weapons of war in war, that he's deployed in support of operation enduring freedom.
He deployed to Italy.
He did not deploy to Afghanistan or Iraq.
And in fact, stepped out of his military service and away from his unit months before.
they deployed to actual combat in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He has exaggerated that service.
B. Tim Walts, when he was a high school football coach in Nebraska, was arrested for drunk
driving.
He was taken in.
He was administered the breathalyzer.
Ultimately, he got out on some technicalities, had it pled down to a lower charge,
but in politics, he turned that into he wasn't guilty.
that he drove to and from the police station.
The officer didn't think he was drunk.
Those are not just a tenuous relationship with the truth
and not simply exaggerations.
Those are lies.
The officer himself has said, that's not true.
The police department arrested Tim Walts said,
that's not true.
Anyone who was at the police station,
and I said, he didn't drive himself
and no officer would allow him to drive himself
to the police station.
He went on, by the way, to move to Minnesota,
become a football coach in Minnesota,
and run for political office.
lie about his past in drunk driving okay this is where somebody listening goes well you know
Donald Trump exaggeration Donald Trump doesn't tell like let's stick with Tim Watts for just a moment
instead of deflection and instead of um you are two let's just kind of start adding it up because
every politician is guilty of lies in exaggeration but now we're at two we're at two in about
two to three weeks of national spotlight.
Again, hands raised above his head, straight arm, no elbows, double wave to the crowd.
Then there is Tim Walt saying on MSNBC that he and his wife conceived their children through IVF,
making an argument against various regional proposals from Republicans to regulate IVF.
He tells a personal story, personal narrative that IVF is responsible for his family.
It's not true, and it was even called out on CNN.
J.B. Vance knows nothing about that, and then he keeps going into all of these things.
Today's IVF day. Thank God from IVF, my wife and I have two beautiful children.
Now, that's not accurate, right? I mean, it wasn't IVF.
It was a different procedure, and his wife, Gwen Walls, the first lady of Minnesota, is taking care to tell CNN
that they actually use the procedure called intrauterine insemination.
IUI. It's a process she describes it as incredibly personal, difficult experience. They did use fertility treatments. It wasn't IVF.
Any woman response- Come here, Sergeant Major. I'm sorry. Hold on. Hold on. I want to. Any one of the one in seven women who goes through fertility treatments, IUI is part of the suite of fertility treatments. It's a step below IVF. It's direct insemination versus creating embryos. I think that is a stretch to say that it's not part of the broader fertility treatment. The way they explain it is he just, he just,
talks like how regular people talk.
I mean, my husband would have not a difference.
Well, but Alyssa Farah then goes on on CNN there to say, even, and I'm not here, here to
debate the merits of any type of regulation on IVF, but even under those proposals from
regional Republicans, it would not include IUI.
So the point is he exaggerated his personal experience to act as though Republicans would have
kept him from creating his family.
at C and D is, as we've had Pete Hick-Seth and others on,
he might not have been quite the college high school football coaches played up to be.
He was a defensive coordinator in a high school.
I personally don't begrudge him that.
I think once a coach, always a coach.
But the point is, through four different stories being told in less than four weeks,
he has a very, very tenuous relationship with the truth,
and it's super weird.
Something is weird.
This bumbling sitcom dad character that he's playing,
touting to Kamala Harris, finding her Doritos in a convenience,
store is not the modern American definition of masculinity.
And it is, quite simply, to play the same game of checkers, weird.
Second, from the DNC, beyond weird, is the terrifying proposals coming out from the Harris
Waltz, first the Biden-Harris administration and the Harris Walls ticket about the economy.
This is actually not weird.
This is terrifying.
I read now from the street.
Kamala Harris is Joe Biden's proposal for 2020.
and she's given us very scant details about what she would do in 2025,
but she's been a part of an administration for 1,300 days that proposes the following.
A 44.6% capital gains tax.
We're at 15%.
Jumping that to 44% for capital gains.
And that's not even the worst of it.
Beginning to tax unrealized capital gains, a 25% minimum,
but then it scales up.
for unrealized capital gains for people making over a hundred million dollars i want you set aside
for one moment the people making over a hundred million dollars part of this proposed legislation
do you know how this works so let's just say that you qualify you buy a house for a million
dollars that house as it's appraised in the next year goes up in value to 1.2 million dollars
you don't sell the house but you have the house you now owe taxes on the 200 thousand dollars
in unrealized capital gains one another example you have a 401k the stock market does
well that year. Your stocks go up, but you don't sell, so you haven't received any money.
You owe taxes on the increase in the value of your stock portfolio. You say, well, what if
I pay that? And then the taxes, then the stocks go down. What if the housing market goes down?
I don't know. The point is, both of these proposals, 45% on cap gains, or even worse,
taxing unrealized capital gains, it grinds the market to a halt. No more transactions. People stop
trading and you get back now to the hundred million dollars well it doesn't affect me i don't make
a hundred million dollars those people flood the market the stock market craters middle class
americans or everyone with the four o kit one k get hammered this is not simply ideologically very
far left this is inane this has crashed the economy type proposals and these are people telling
you that they're here to fix an economy that they've been in charge of for 12 of the last 16 years
eight years of Obama, four years of Biden Harris, and we're supposed to look at Kamala Harris today
as a brand new politician, ready to save America from the ills of America they have controlled
for 12 the last 16 years. And third, from the DNC. There are reports out from Nicole Shanahan
vice presidential candidate for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. They're looking at dropping out of the race.
Nicole Shanahan says they are so disillusioned with the DNC, and it's probably.
process, quote, we are taking a very serious look at making sure that the people that
have corrupted our fair and free democracy do not end up in office, she said on an episode
of the podcast, impact theory.
Quote, is the risk of a Harris-Waltz president worth us staying in?
That is what they are now considering.
Why?
They have banned us, shadow-banned us, kept us off the stages, manipulated polls, used lawfare
against us, suit us in every possible state.
They even planted insiders in our campaign to disrupt it and create an actual legal issue for us.
She's a former Democratic donor, always been a part of the Democratic Party.
Nicole Shan and Robert F. T. Jr. looking to drop out of the race and throw their support behind Donald Trump to save democracy.
Betting markets like it for the first time in a week or two.
It's now tightened up. It's back to almost even in the betting markets.
Kamala Harris and Tim Walts against J.D. Vance and Donald Trump.
Let's break down the effect of RFK dropping out and the effect of binary thinking on critical thinking
with Gutfeld's Cat Timp next on the Will Cain Show.
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Dee on YouTube says, yeah, I'm not interested in men who play video games.
Tamara Frizek says, yeah, to other men, you think it's fine.
Get up and do something physical or maybe shock her.
Ask her how she is.
Look her in the eyes.
Talk.
On the idea that one of the most unattractive hobbies to women is men, play.
playing video games. It is the Will Cain Show streaming live at
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Hit subscribe at Apple, Spotify, or on YouTube.
Joining us now, the author of a brand new book,
I used to like you until she is also one of the stars of Gutfeld.
It is Kat Timp on the Will Cain Show.
Hey, Kat.
Hey, how are you?
Good. Is that right? Video games,
one of the most unattractive things men can do as a hobby?
I was nodding along the whole time you were saying that.
Yeah. My experience, unfortunately, comes from having dated a man who was into video games and one singular man, because I never did it again. Just the thought of just picture that you're sitting there, you're being ignored while he's wearing a headset and like fighting a fake battle. So now I married a man who fought an actual war. So I'm much more attractive to be a actual veteran than a call of duty.
playing man what i'm trying to think and i think we're going to do this in the third segment
here today of the will i'm trying to think what else is up there like if you're ranking your five
most unattractive hobbies um and this is from the ladies out there um because i know if i want to
get like hero status on the internet on social media i should go to battle with you right now i should
defend the dudes out there playing college football 25 but i recognize i'm capable of stepping back and
going, even if I were in the moment doing it, yeah, this is not, this is not attractive.
What else is on the list, though, Kat?
Like, you walk in the room, what's the unattractive hobby?
I mean, that, so that to me is, is honestly, I agree with it being, like, number one.
Because of the way that guys generally aren't into video games just a little bit.
It's often, and then he'll turn it around on you where it's like, you don't understand that I just need time for myself.
It's like, that's one, that's really one hell of a way to spend nine hours unshowered, you know, on your couch eating Doritos.
But I think also just anything similar, like the guys that are really into those weird fantasy board games is also kind of gross.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't want, I do it.
I want to be the hobby.
I want, I want to be, you know, I can't wait to see you.
I love you so much.
but I'm not trying to say
I'm not a nightmare in my own way
because of course I am
but
Anne Brettrick says on YouTube
watching a man
house cleaning does it for me
so I don't think she's saying
it's one of the more attractive hobbies
so I'll just I'll run one by you
maybe one of my
I'm not going to call an insecurity
but when I do it I do wonder
I was
I was my wife and I were with another couple
of night and I went into their backyard
we sat down in their backyard to have a drink
And I was like, hey, Marnie, are those hydrangees over there?
I really, I really like that.
I notice landscaping.
I like landscaping.
I think a manicured yard looks good.
And I'm curious, and I'm not an expert.
I wish I was like, what's that tree?
What's this tree?
What's that?
So I'm just kind of, I'm curious and interested.
I would not say I'm a green thumb or a plant.
But every time I do, I'm a little bit like, is that masculine?
Landscaping?
I think landscaping.
is. So my husband, he's actually very into, like, he's a little too into it because we don't have, we don't have a yard. But what he'll do is he'll watch lawnmower videos. He'll watch videos of someone mowing a lawn. I guess it's, he would love nothing more than to just leave this all behind and be like a dude who landscapes in the Midwest somewhere. But unfortunately, that's, that's not where our life is right now. He really does. He wants to be.
he wants to be like a blue collar
landscaping man
so I think that's his way
of kind of pretending
for a little bit
yeah
yeah cutting grass is therapeutic
yeah dudes
dudes take pride in in their grass
that's not to say that I don't start issues
that I don't start like that's not to say
that like if I see him watching that when I'm in the room
that I don't make it a problem
because I do to be clear
I'm like you can watch that
when I'm not, there's not a beautiful woman in the room.
Yeah, I wish you a long and happy marriage cat,
because there's going to be a lot of landscaping videos in your future.
It's not always going to be attention for you.
Something I think you already know.
You have a new book out called I used to like you until.
And I want to get into some of that.
But the book in large part, through personal stories as well,
is you talk a lot about non-binary thinking.
And it's worth saying, you know, you talk about binary thinking through a lot of different prisms.
So religious prism, political prism.
And I think it's worth analyzing this instinct.
It's probably an instinct that we all have to reduce things into binary choices.
I want to come back to it in just a moment, but I want to kind of start with something in the news because I think it applies, and that's RFK.
and there's this talk of RFK dropping out of the race
and the betting market swung to Trump
and I'm a little surprised by that
I guess we always kind of wondered who does he pull more from
does he pull more from first Biden now Harris
or does he pull more from Trump and right now it's looking like
shockingly he pulls more from Trump because with him out
more of the vote swings to Trump
what do you think about this third party guy RFK
and him potentially dropping out of the race
and his support going to Trump
So I think a reason that a lot of, that doesn't surprise me about his support going to Trump because I think a lot of people, what they really like about him is a lot of things he's had to say about COVID.
And I actually don't think it's the specific things that he says so much as he said things that weren't the allowed things to say.
Whether people agree with the specific things that he says or not, I know people who will be like, oh, I think he's kind of kooky on this or that.
but I was if you I mean it wasn't that long ago that people's real life relationships were destroyed over these people veering outside of the acceptable lane of thought on COVID and this stuff that was I mean I don't know most of these conspiracies now turned out to be not conspiracies at all and there were really tangible things that people lost I mean people lost businesses people couldn't say goodbye to loved ones and people lost relationships over things that turned out to be lies anyway and I that's why I do think honestly
that being, everyone does it, right? Everybody has preconceived notions. It's human to have preconceived
notions. But I think that it's really healthy and it makes you a smarter, more well-rounded,
more creative, more perceptive person to acknowledge that and willingly try to look outside of that
and see if what you think is just because of certain pressures or what you think and why you
think it. So as I mentioned, you take this idea of non-binary thinking and you bring it through
the prism of religion and politics, but I think maybe the most interesting to me is also just
our personal relationships become very binary. And this is from some of the talking points and
experts from your book, but I'm going to read this. We write people off unnecessarily. We miss out
on personal relationships that could have been fulfilling. For example, someone you might disagree with
on guns might have a parent suffering from the same illness or no good lawyer who can keep you
out of jail. You know, Kat, I spent five years. You and I actually knew each other before I went to
ESPN and before I did sports. We knew each other at National Review. So I was in this world. I left
this world and went to sports and now I've come back to this world. And I will say one of my
favorite things about five years in sports was, yeah, you stopped. I'm never going to pretend like
it's not in there and not part of the conversation. Oh, he's liberal. Oh, he's conservative. Oh,
she's this, he's that.
But there were so many other touch points at which you could relate to somebody.
The most obvious one was sports.
Like, what do you think of the Cowboys?
What do you think of this?
And it makes people more dimensional, which we are.
And it makes people more interesting.
And I do think that is a healthier, and maybe it is how most Americans live their life anyway.
My five years in sports put me back in touch with America and how they, because what you and I do,
is very much in the bubble of thinking things about politics often.
But America has gravitated into that bubble
of losing the depth of the person you're interacting with
and seeing not how you disagree, but all the commonalities.
Yeah.
And I'm someone who's independent,
and so it's very rare, actually, it's never happened
for me to find someone who I'm aligned with on everything.
I have a lot of friends that are conservative,
but they don't love Trump.
I have a lot of friends that are super maga, love Trump.
I have friends that are very left wing.
I have friends that are disengaged from it.
And all of these relationships are relationships that I'm very, very grateful for.
And I think that there's also this fear.
I think that there is a fear of expressing an opinion outside of whatever your team is,
if you're seen as, you know, oh, I'm conservative or, oh, I'm liberal.
Out of a very real fear, I think, of being ostracized by that group.
Because I think as divided as we are, to your point, we're not still as divided in our, in our minds and reality than we see portrayed, not just in the media, but also in our conversations with each other.
What's interesting as well, you live in New York.
I don't remember where you're from, Kat, but you're not from New York City.
Yeah, from the Detroit area.
I met your dad one time.
My dad, yeah.
I remember I met your dad in the lobby.
I lived in New York for 15 years
and that meant obviously
that I had a lot of friends who were liberal
the majority of my friends were liberal
because I lived in New York
it's just that's the world
that's the bubble right
I will say this cat
and I'm not I don't want to do a tit for tad
or I don't want to try to make
I don't want to otherwise
but I do think
and in acutely
since Donald Trump
that I think that many on the left
use it as their primary
identity. So what you and I are talking about is there's so much more to your identity than your
politics. But even though I had those friends, and I'm still friends a lot of them, and I think I
would say this, often socially, I felt an undercurrent of judgment. Like there's a judgment
to whatever is going on or what I might think about something that is about how we differ politically.
And it didn't define the relationship 100%. There were other, our kids, our sports, whatever it may be.
But I do think that the left has draped themselves in their political identity as their primary identity a little more than the right.
I live in Dallas now, and I do think I have some, I think I can compare it.
I don't think it's this extreme on the right.
I really don't.
I'm not saying it's not there, but I don't think it's as extreme as their primary identity.
I think, so I think first of all that you're correct that I think it's gotten worse.
in terms of people getting broken by Donald Trump.
I've someone that has,
my beliefs have been the same.
I'm small government across the board.
So sometimes it places me at odds with people on either side.
But I had a friend who was a very close friend of mine who suddenly it was a problem,
the things that I'd always believed because Trump was running.
And all that mattered was that Trump lost.
I hadn't changed.
But all of a sudden, things were different.
And this is a very close friend that is no longer in my life anymore because it became where we'd be out just trying to have like a social event and he'd be like, oh, how are you going to, you know, be talking about the, I had the libertarian candidate at the time, Joe Jorgensen on my comedy advice show, Sincerely Cat, RIP. I had her on that show that I had at the time. And I wasn't even allowed like in his mind to do that because how could I be giving a platform to her right now, meaning the time when Trump must be defeated, defeated,
above all else. But I think I've also gotten it from people who, if I'm critical of Trump,
people will come after me, call me a traitor, say that. And again, I've never claimed to be
Republican, which is why it's so funny when I'm called a rhino. It's like, no, I'm not, I'm
independent. I've never claimed to be Republican either. But I think that you really, really,
really nailed it when you say that for people, it can become their identity. And I think
something else that I write about in the book is there's this study. And it's very obvious.
but moral outrage is more often rooted in self-interest than altruism.
It can make you feel like you're doing something to help these problems when you are really not doing anything at all.
And I think the perfect example of that is, you know, what we saw even at the convention, the Democratic Convention that's happening this week, which is I'm the good team.
And so therefore, just by you're the bad team, Trump is Dana.
as Obama said, Trump is dangerous.
And he talked a lot about division being bad.
And I agreed with that.
But I don't see how calling Trump dangerous really helps achieve those ends, right?
Then you get to be good just by very virtue of not being on that bad team.
And I think that can be really hard for people to give up because then it's like, oh, wait, I'm not just good because of the box that I check when I vote or because I'm not a Republican.
Then you have to think about actually getting out there and doing something.
That's a lot harder.
that's really good moral outrage is more about self-interest than it is about altruism that is a very
that it's a very flowery and accurate way i think of explaining what we've all kind of used
shorthand virtue signaling right what you're doing is draping yourself in virtue by having the
right opinion and i've said and i don't want to spend the the bulk of our conversation being like
and the left is about it too you know but um i think that for much of the left you're voting
has become the ballot box has become your church and your vote has become your act of penance
or your or your charity that you're a good person because you went into the voting booth and
checked the right box to your point or even less just express the right outrage on social media
or even in your social circles that you become a good person um i think that is definitely
something indicative of the left now this is not i don't want to do this to say everything on the
right is right you know but but i do think this binary thinking that you're talking about on a personal
level has really really inhabited the left see i and and i definitely understand i i i get it from
both sides and i explain it in the book this way where i will have you know viewers of fox and
this is not all viewers right i i have i'm on tour i sell out shows these are fox people coming to these
shows. A lot of the audience is awesome. But there are, of course, those exceptions of people that
are like, she made fun of Trump or she's, you know, she's not a registered Republican or she votes
third party, therefore she's my enemy. And they'll give me those things. On the other side,
though, there are people who are on the left who will not speak to me at all just because I work
at Fox News. So it doesn't matter what I say. And the difference in those two groups of people that
that i that i noticed though is the people who require you to be predictable right i used to like you
until the people who on the right who who require you to not deviate from anything they agree are
honestly strangers their their audience and you are a personality to them at least the way you're
describing it to me right now and the people who on the left who are ostracizing you because of your
views are supposed to be the ones that already know you on a deeper level and understand those
vulnerabilities or understand the the layers of you as a human being. And I guess that's the
difference. I do think the right is guilty of it. But I haven't had many friends on the right ever go,
well, will you disagree with me in this way? And therefore, we're not friends. And the left,
it seems to be more willing to exercise personal relationships because of politics.
you know i think that makes a lot of sense if we if i if i can also get just get really deep and
probably too personal right now but it's in the book so whatever i have experienced that with
religion as well i've had experienced personal relationships where i'm i'm no longer religious
and that's created some riffs in family relationships i i get really deep into the relationship with
my mom who's been dead for 10 years which not because it was easy but for me i'm somebody who i know
that I would be happier if I were religious. So I'm the I'm the opposite of judge religious
people. I know I would be happier. I personally can't get there. But this is another thing where
and I actually, I'm not, I'm not closing that door. I hope to get there someday. So it's actually
more than just that I that I wish I could. But I think that the key here is to be willing to
talk to people. I have many, many close friends who are very, very religious people who are not
judgmental people. I think that this country was founded on individual rights. And I think the more
that we could get back to, you know, respecting individual rights, that would be better.
But sadly, I think we go more and more towards this idea in the opposite direction where you
kind of have to fall in line. I really think that the key is communicating with each other more.
And I really think the key is being willing to have those conversations and not shutting each other out.
I'm willing to put myself out there.
So.
And you have.
You have in I used to like you and tell.
And I know you've got to go in just a moment.
I just want to share two thoughts with you before you go.
So when it comes to the other two areas that of binary thinking that you, that I've mentioned that you talk about, one is politics.
And we can talk about this on another occasion.
I don't like partisanship.
I don't consider myself on a team.
I'd like to think that I'm a critical thinker.
I also think it's interesting that we have to think about over the last 10 years how those two
teams, those two bipolar teams and politics, have really changed their underlying policies.
And I don't know if that should make a cynical or hopeful to the binary system.
I honestly do not know yet what I think about that.
But on the religious front, I'll be interested in continuing to know you.
And what I mean by that, and I don't mean to be patronizing or I'm older than you.
but I mean I think I said this to my audience or I hope you know I lost I lost my religion for
while I mean I lost faith and I know why and it was a lack of humility for me it was too much
hubris and too much intellectualism and and these types of things I know you're going to have a
child soon which is awesome yeah by the way I'm four months pregnant yeah I'm not saying that'll be the thing
that changes it but it could be the thing that changes it I don't think religion as someone
who has come around you like you said you're open to it and by the way I always
always was as well. I wasn't dogmatic. I was always open. It's not bipolar. I don't think it's
a question mark. And that's what I would have described myself. And I just think actually getting
beyond strict bipolar thinking and just being open-minded and open-hearted is what led me back to seeing
that it's the path to a greater purpose. And maybe it will find, maybe you'll find it. Maybe you won't.
But I don't, I will say, I don't think I got there because I joined a team or was bipolar.
Yeah. But I was not just critically thinking, but critically open.
to something that I think is ultimate truth.
Yeah, and I'm still open, and I, you know, I'm always open to changing as a person,
you know, and as I learned new information, and even I make very excited to be a mom,
which is never a sentence that I thought I would say in my time.
And again, you've known me for a long time, so you know how true that is.
That I'm, I'm four months pregnant.
I can't wait to be a mom.
And as much as I tease my husband, he's truly the best thing that's ever happened to me.
And I'm really excited for this.
like next chapter sounds so cheesy, but it is. I mean, it's, my life is about to completely change
and I can't wait. It's going to be awesome, as long as he gives up video games.
All right, you guys should go get her book. It's, I used to like you and tell. It's the newest
book from Kat Timp. As she said, she's vulnerable. She's thinking through these things, open-minded
and critically, and applies it to all aspects of life. I think you'll really enjoy it. I used to like
you and tell. Kat Timp, thank you so much for being on the Will Kane show.
Thank you. Great seeing you.
You too.
All right, go check out that book.
I think that's a rarity, meaning there's a level of authenticity of willingness to see not
just yourself as an individual.
Everybody wants to see themselves as individuals, but to see other people as individuals.
You see what I'm saying?
Like constantly, as a habit, as a practice, walking through the world, seeing other people
as individuals.
Ryan Hanchett says on YouTube, seriously cat, video games are a no-go.
A dude can't escape a fantasy battle.
but to watch videos with someone mowing the grass because you fantasize about having a yard is
perfectly okay i think actually yes ryan i mean look i'm a video game defender i want to be there
for the williscia but can't can't we like as an individual step inside for a moment the mind of a
woman just see yourself through the eyes for a moment not what you want it to be and how you feel
defensive but through the eyes of a woman and simply me 12 says well if they're playing video games
at least they aren't cheating on their wives sounds like someone needs a hobby
of their own some men on the other hand get mad if a woman is reading a book there's always a
silver lining if you're playing video games you aren't catting around on the town let's get into
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Like Jessica Barnard on YouTube says, golfing gives me way more ick than video games.
Okay, Jessica.
I'm not even a golfer, but now we're having trouble.
like that's that's that's a step too far uh get her out yeah i hear you young establishment james
get her out van landry says when it comes to all the landscaping and cutting grass talk i thought
i wanted that 20 years after living in new england with leaves grass and snow i now want low
maintenance i want a condo um all right wellish in new york city you have 60 seconds you have 60 seconds
on the clock, you have elected as your leader to a day's, Dan, to make your argument to the jury
listening right now across this country on YouTube, Facebook, and on terrestrial radio, you have
60 seconds to defend video games. Go. So video games are escapism a little bit. There's nothing
wrong with them. They're all diverse. As long as you're, you know, interacting in life still.
What are you doing? Did we just go under the stage of the DNC? Just throwing a work?
word out there. They're all diverse.
Yeah, exactly. Point for the mock jury.
Yep, exactly. But there's nothing wrong with having a hobby like that. I mean, as long as it
doesn't take up all your time and that's all you do, it's fine. You know, the ladies love to
watch their Bachelor and Bachelorette and binge watch those shows. So it's not all that much
different, but we're actually using our, you know, hand-eye coordination and doing these things.
And we are basically athletes, if you want to put it that way.
We're basically athletes doing this.
Oh, I like it.
So it's that much different than binge watching a television show, but we're doing a little bit more than that.
So I think it's not that bad, and I think ladies should, you know, lay off us just a little, little bit.
Quick cross-examination.
If you're working on your hand-eye coordination through your Xbox paddle and you're basically an athlete, if you're playing Call of Duty, are you basically a Navy SEAL?
I wouldn't say that.
I'm not using Stolen Valor here, but I'm saying that, you know, you work on your eyesight, you work
on here. I don't know
how I'm defending this one. This is a tough
one, but yeah.
Some of my buddies at breakfast
this morning were giving me a hard time. They said
Kane sure is posting a whole lot
of homoerotic photos on his Instagram
feed from his seal
swim in New York City. And then they said,
he definitely thinks he's an honorary Navy SEAL.
What do you got, Patrick?
I see you raising your hand. By the way, before
he goes, any odds on what not Patrick remembers
what he wanted to say? It was literally 15
seconds ago, he raised his hand. He wanted to say
50, 50. 50. Let's just see.
50, 50 odds. Does you remember?
Go tinfoil.
Okay, I had it. And now, no,
I was going to remember.
So, the
armies literally, in the Air Force,
are literally hiring
people as drone pilots based
off of video game play.
Video games are that important.
It is valor.
It's becoming valor.
Pilot simulation. All right, I was nervous for you,
Patrick, I was nervous.
Sometimes you're like a lawnmower that's 20 years old and hadn't been greased up.
Like, I'm yanking the chain.
It's like, it gets started, maybe, but it takes a few pulls on the chain.
And there at the beginning, I was like, here we go again.
The lawnmower's not firing up today.
I guess we're not cutting the grass.
But you got it out.
You got it out.
You got it out.
And you basically said that everybody on video games is now an American hero.
You guys let us know.
By the, we have a ranking.
I think we have a ranking of the least attractive hobbies for me.
man. We're going to get to that in just a moment, but I want to take a diversion here into
Brian Flores. For anyone that's not a sports fan or anyone that is, you could have forgotten.
Brian Flores is the current defensive coordinator for the Minnesota Vikings, but he was the head
coach of the Miami Dolphins during some very rough years. And years, when they got to select
former Alabama quarterback, Tua, Tua, Tua, as their first round draft pick. And he wasn't
good. Tua under Brian Flores.
Now, why was that?
Well, Tua Tuaanga Vailua went on the Dan Lebitard show and explained his relationship with Flores.
Listen to this.
If you woke up every morning and I told you, you suck at what you did, that you don't belong doing what you do, that you shouldn't be here, that this guy should be here, that you haven't earned this right, and then you have somebody else come in and tell you, dude,
you are the best fit for this.
Like, you are accurate, you are the best, whatever, you are this, you are that.
Like, how would it make you feel listening to one or the other?
You see what I'm saying?
And then you hear it, you hear it, regardless of what it is, the good or the bad,
and you hear it more and more.
You start to actually believe that.
So that led to a little bit of a mini debate in sports media about, you know,
what is hard coaching versus not abusive,
but self-defeating coaching.
And I think that is an actually interesting conversation.
I do.
I mean, I don't think that you have to treat athletes,
specifically pro athletes, with kid gloves.
But there was an interesting clip going around about Nick Saban,
known as one of the harder coaches out there
when he was at the University of Alabama,
saying he never treated his quarterback like he treated the rest of the team.
I don't know if that's true from Sabin.
But he says he didn't treat the quarterback the same as the rest of the
the team because everyone knows the role of confidence it's real confidence is like the ultimate
performance enhancing drug for this job and certainly for your job and certainly for athletics
um i don't know about different sports like the role confidence plays in degrees but since my sons
are so into soccer and for that matter also a place kicker i think it is
gigantic in those two jobs probably golf as well but like in soccer confidence is literally a
performance enhancing drug you will play markedly i'm going to say 30% is a swing and it could be more
than that if you believe in yourself and you think everybody else believes in you you will play 30%
better than if you feel like nobody believes in you and your coach thinks you stink i haven't
thought about quarterback but my guess is that two is on to something here and if somebody is
telling you every single day that you stink you don't belong and you're bad at your job you will
begin to believe that you will and then you will literally be what you believe you will be worse
at that job but that's not actually the part of the debate that stuck out to me because everyone
is kind of having this conversation about hard coaching versus confidence building what's took out to me
is the same people on ESPN and i just want to say i'll i'll ask that
the Willisha because I all want to be the guy that's always like, oh, well, I've been involved
in all these race debates, so it's something that I noticed. But if you notice, this is, I'm not
mining here. This is not needle in the haystack stuff. Brian Flores sued the NFL for racial
discrimination because he has not been rehired as a head coach in the NFL. And when he was
fired, the conversation was, well, the dolphins were literally tanking and they put him in a
position to lose, and that set him up to fail. And they wouldn't have done that to a white coach.
and they would have had more time
and then he's not rehired
and it's like well it's because he's a black coach
and my point is
okay my point in all this is
it's a little bit like our conversation
with cat timp about seeing people as individuals
you want another example
I'll give you another example to show you how this happens over and over
Eric B. Enemy for a long time
was the offensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs
and a lot of offensive coordinators
under Patrick Mahomes or over Patrick Mahomes
got head coaching jobs
Matt Nagy
who else there's like three of them
have gone on to get head coaching jobs and everybody's like well if all those white coaches get jobs
but eric the enemy doesn't then it's once again the NFL is racist and my constant rebuttal would be
and was and still is what do you know about these people as individuals right if you walk through
the world thinking everybody hate you because you're black or white or mexican whatever
you have given yourself a hall pass on your individual characteristics that might
be impacting how other people see you. Maybe not everyone around you is racist. Maybe you're the
bad roommate. Maybe it's your personality. And we have to know these things before we indict
everyone. And when I say everyone, if you're suing the league, you're suing 32 owners. So you're saying
32 owners don't like black head coaches instead of your reputation, your personal
abilities, your personality have become well known. And people don't want.
that. And I wouldn't want that. The ultimate asset in the NFL is a first-round drafted
quarterback. It sets your franchise up for 10 years or sets it back for five years. It just
is death or life. And I'm going to put that in the hands of a man who is going to
berate him? No way, man. And so my whole point of this is, I don't see that conversation in sports
right now. Literally a year to two years ago, everyone today that is talking about how bad of a coach
Brian Flores is, and that's what they're all saying. Like ESPN analysts are not defending this as
hard coaching. They're saying this is bad coaching. Literally a year or two go, we're saying,
oh, well, Brian Flores is not getting jobs because he's black. And I don't hear any accountability
for that nonsense, which I would say is toxic, cancerous, and divisive nonsense today.
I hear no accountability for calling everyone racist.
Now, my question to you guys,
who am I today?
Am I the guy forcing race in the conversation?
Am I the guy with a memory?
Which one am I today?
I don't think you are at all because the perfect example of this
is Angel Hernandez sued MLB for racial discrimination,
but it's a lot easier to objectively judge an umpire
because they have scorecards.
We don't know what goes on in those coaching locker rooms,
but now that we do,
it's seen and it's a big it's a big story and the floor's name is out there and memorable
yeah and I think there's a need to bring it in you're you're not just bringing race into it
I mean when things like this come up that is bad coaching that type of what two had just said
is is an awful thing so it you know it should be brought up and I guess what I'm upset about
is what I would call drive-by race baiting or drive-by
accusations of racism we do this it consumes our cycle whatever it may be look you think anybody's
ever gone back and said what are the facts on bubble wallace in the garage like we know the
facts by the way because we've seen we've seen there was it was it even an FBI report I think
the FBI was called in to investigate that there's never an accountability it's like it's and so
like if you ask people on the street the average person did someone hang a noose in bubble
wallace's garage I think they're going to go yeah that did happen right and just
like hey did trump call nazis and white supremacists very fine people yeah that did happen right no one
the the most obvious examples everybody goes the correction the newspapers on page two and at the bottom
of the page but the but the lie was in 12 point font on the front page you know before and it's like
no one ever comes back after torching the village down to go hey um was it really was the
Was the village really infected with Ebola?
Did we need to torch the huts?
No one ever goes back to it.
Like this, we go on, we destroy the village.
Why, Ebola? Was there Ebola? Who cares?
Ebola? It's like everything's racist,
but we never go back to say,
even after evidence shows like this.
Brian Flores will never be a head coach in the NFL.
Do we all agree with that? He's done.
Yep.
Will he ever get a head coaching job in the NFL?
Very slim chance.
I think no.
And it'll have nothing to do with his skin color.
nothing to do with his skin color.
I don't know.
I just, at some point, we have to have a corrective mechanism in real time and also after
the fact so that we can, this is healing the country.
Facts, truth, and accountability heals the country.
Drive-by accusations of people's internal motivations with no evidence is what divides
the country.
And that's not a denial of the existence of racism.
Perhaps it's actually a protection of the corrective mechanisms of racism.
which is going to require truth.
Okay.
Lighten the mood.
Now, back to you guys in New York,
share with me the most unattractive hobbies
after video games for women.
Can you see this?
You can read that to us.
Go ahead.
This is according to Liz Wheeler.
Okay.
Playing video games is the least attractive hobby.
Collecting figurines is next in that order.
Hold on.
So what is that?
Is that like Star Wars figures?
Yeah, like collectibles.
Yeah, like, and
yeah, sports figure,
Boblehads, yeah, exactly.
What is that?
Is that Holcogne?
Is that Holcogne?
Let's get one.
Hold on.
Oh, yeah.
So you're number two on the list.
He does have a figurine.
And I play video game.
I should have some of my desk.
Isn't that what every person does?
Yeah.
Just can you...
Can you...
Can you...
You just promised me
you won't do bobbleheads.
though, that's a little overdone.
Is there a new
version of that, Dan, like the pop sockets?
Is that a thing?
Yeah, there's something.
It's just, the bobblehead's overdone.
Even Dan was getting a little
weary of it.
Okay.
All right.
What's his show for a while?
All right, collecting figurines is number two.
All right, this I agree with.
This should be on the top for me, actually,
is magic tricks.
That should be the number one
least attractive hobby.
I'm just throwing that out there.
So here's the thing.
But magic tricks are
awesome. Oh, come on.
I know they're awesome, but like,
come on, dude.
That's not very hot.
Have you ever been,
if Chris Angel walks up
and does a magic trick, you are,
you love it. When I
see it on TV, magic tricks are awesome
and you know it. Now, here's the thing.
You don't want to date it. You don't want to date it.
That's why those dudes,
have you noticed like these, the vein of
magician? There's the magician with like the
vest on and you know he's doing it and he's goofy and I could see how he so what the the alternative is
is the Ed Hardy magician right you know like the Vegas guy wearing Ed Hardy with a ton of tats
and piercings and he's gone the other way to show you he's actually a grungy magician so he's cool
he's mysterious yeah I like the goofy ones all right what's it what's next all right online trolling
is unattractive I didn't know that was a hobby to be honest
heck yeah it's a hobby is it oh yeah
yes
damn
if you think all
yes
like if we were looking
at internet comments
any particular platform
and I love you guys
in the comment section
I do
I want you in the comment section
but I'm asking you
in the comment section
right now
the people around you
how many are bots
and how many
are professional trolls
like
when I say professional trolls
they devote too much time
to this
you know what I mean
and by the way
I want you all here
But either way
You're in the comment section right now
On Facebook or YouTube
You recognize another person
In the comments or YouTube
That is real
And someone I would say
For example
There's a member of a community with you here
That you're having an actual conversation with
Versus
Online trolling
I think we can all agree
That's pretty unattractive
What's next to a day
All right
Let's see what we got
Gambling
Is next on the list
I mean that could ruin your lap
So, yeah, that's a real bad thing.
I think they just don't want to see obsession with that.
And then next is building model trains.
I mean, that's hot.
Come on.
Come on.
What about like a battlefield?
Go down and give me the end of the list.
All right.
Taxidermy is next.
Comic book collecting and bird watching.
The older I get, the more I understand bird watching.
I'm just throwing that out there.
Hold on.
Taxidermy.
is that like if you have
taxidermy in your house
or if you are a taxidermist
I really don't know what that means
because women don't like taxidermy
they don't walk deer heads
on the wall
but I don't
I like that
but or is that if you're actually a taxidermist
because
yeah I could see how like walking into a house
of half taxidermied animals
would be a real turn off
but that's a that taxidermy is a profession
I don't count that as a hobby
That's an actual living.
So I guess it would be just having taxidermy.
Will, have you ever had one of those things in a house or anything?
Like a deer or a cow.
What are you talking about?
It's from Texas.
Yeah.
I'm from a small town in Texas, Jeff.
It's a rhetorical question.
I've had ducks, pheasants.
I have actually never had a full-on myself deer mount.
European mount.
European mounts just the rack, not the full-on head.
Yeah.
but I'm not I'm not dying to get one in my house right now
I don't have one in my house right now I should keep one in this studio
yeah just put a big old right above you
maybe a long horn big old
that's yeah I mean that's that's a little different because that's not
you know something you shoot you don't hunt those yeah
but okay really quickly then what is the what is the converse
What is the most unattractive hobbies for women in the eyes of men?
Now, there's been a couple nominations pre-show today.
So what do you think is the most unattractive thing for a woman?
Hobby.
I'll go, pretending to be a foodie or an influencer.
That is a bad hobby for me, I think.
So you're going out on date with a girl, and you find out she's an influencer.
Is there a threshold on that?
like if she is a certain, like she's super big, does it get okay for you?
So I'm like Kat.
Like between a wannabe influencer and an influencer.
I'm like Kat.
I did it once and I'm never doing it again in a relationship.
I've been through that and it's not.
So Jack Bryan is dating an influencer from Barstall.
That would be a turnoff for you.
Yeah.
And I think his fans are getting a little, you know, hey, you might want to like tone it down a little bit kind of thing.
of her so Shane Gillis is dating a girl my age now and she's I don't know someone unpopular among
those fans she's an influencer yeah she's like in the city friends of friends but
little they're all a little self-centered I'm gonna get in trouble I'm trying to think what
the most unattractive hobby is for a woman crocheting oh I got a good one I think there's a I think
there's a no crocheting wouldn't be it
What?
I say this as someone with Taylor Swift on my workout playlist,
but I think not in moderation.
Moderation is fine,
just like video games in moderation is fine,
but anytime there's a super obsession with Taylor Swift,
I think it's a major red flag.
And I would add like...
Yeah, man, I think of like teenagers.
It's like it's mid-20s too.
Cats?
Yeah, I would add like anytime they become obsessed with something
that it makes it their personality.
So, like, you have Disney, you know, adults where it's like, that's everything about them
as Disney.
It's the same with Swifties.
Like, you have the people who just listen, and then you have the people who are Swifties,
and that's their entire personality.
I got one.
I got a controversial one, and this is where we're going to end the show today, but we're all
going to be honest.
All right, you meet a girl, and she's super into sports.
she's super into football she has a lot of takes she's she's ready to talk to you about the broncos
versus the jags this weekend and i want you to be honest that sounds yeah when you're 19 or 20
it sounds fantastic sitting back to a day because you know i'm telling the truth yeah um so
there's there's definitely a i'm on to something there's a spectrum there on that
there's a reason for that there's a reason they're so into it um there's a spectrum on that for sure
there's being interested in sports but you know what i'm my mom is into it my sister-in-law is into it
and i never judge them now never never and i i love it and i talk it with them but it they're not
trying to impress me do you know what i mean that's the thing if it feels affected like you're
trying to impress me or you're creating it feel that's the whole thing maybe that's disney maybe
that's Taylor Swift, maybe that's influencing, and maybe that's the sports thing. If your image
creating, it's a turnoff. Do you know what I mean? Like, if this whole thing feels like an
affectation, it's a turn off. If you're genuine, you know, then it comes with kind of some
humility and I'm into it. You're not trying to be an expert, but I just like it. Then it's not.
It's not. And I think that is the tie that the thread that goes through for men. Just don't
try to impress me. Quit trying to affect something, an image to me.
whether that's Instagram, sports, or with Taylor Swift.
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