Will Cain Country - RFK Jr, Trump's Savior? PLUS, Kat Timpf On What Divides Us

Episode Date: August 21, 2024

Story #1: This election is the equivalent of the University of Michigan taking on Kent State. It should be a blowout. Night two of the DNC saw what was once the A-team for the Democrats set the stage... for the JV squad of Vice President Kamala Harris and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz. How on earth is this a close race? And what is wrong with Tim Walz?  Story #2: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.'s campaign looks like it is coming to an end. How will independants handle it? Plus, how to think outside of the box and outside of the two parties in politics, but most importantly life, with the co-host of Gutfeld! and author of I Used to Like You Until..(How Binary Thinking Divides Us), Kat Timpf. Story #3: What are the most unattractive hobbies for men? Can they justify that video game obsession? And the sports media world finally admits former Miami Dolphins head coach Brian Flores was fired on merit and not because of race. But only after hearing it from Miami Dolphins' Quarterback Tua Tagovailoa Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 For a limited time at McDonald's, enjoy the tasty breakfast trio. Your choice of chicken or sausage McMuffin or McGrittles with a hash brown and a small iced coffee for $5.5 plus tax. Available until 11 a.m. at participating McDonald's restaurants. Price excludes flavored iced coffee and delivery. One. This is the University of Michigan taking on Kent State. This should be a blowout. This is an A team versus a B team.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Night two of the D&C saw what once was the A team of the Democratic Party set the stage up for the JV squad. And with all the talk about what is weird, let's get into Tim Waltz. Something's off. Something's weird. Something is not right with Tim Waltz. And something is very, very wrong with the economic.
Starting point is 00:01:00 policies that could lead to a cratering on the economy of America. Two, reject binary thinking. Think critically. Outside the box and outside of the two parties. A conversation with Kat Tim. And three, Brian Flores told Tua to Tunga Viloa, the quarterback of the Miami Dolphins, that he wasn't any good, that he didn't belong, that he's the reason that they lose.
Starting point is 00:01:28 every day when Flores was the head coach of the Miami Dolphins. But I thought the reason he was no longer employed at the highest levels of the NFL was because of racism. It couldn't be simply the personality of Brian Flores. It is the Will Kane Show streaming live at Fox News.com On the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page, Always on demand, wherever you get your audio entertainment at Apple or on Spotify. Just simply hit subscribe, and you can listen to The Will Cane Show whenever and however you like.
Starting point is 00:02:08 If you're watching us on Facebook or YouTube, figure out a way to set reminders. Join us every Monday through Thursday live at 12 o'clock Eastern Time. The easiest is underneath the text description of this live stream. There's a little button to subscribe to the Will Cane Show on YouTube. scenario your girl walks in you're sitting in your living room you're relaxed you're comfy some sweats maybe even you're a little dressed up because she bought you some uh lulu lemon or vorey so you're in your aath leisure and you're playing a little madden you're playing a little college football 25 you're playing fiefle you're playing call of duty is there any bigger
Starting point is 00:02:51 turnoff for your lady not just your lady friend but your special lady than you playing video games so says a commentator on x at the most unattractive hobby for a man is video games perhaps not uncoincidentally a lot of video game players back in the studios in new york city of the will cane show the willisha manning the control room is i think chock full of unattractive-hobbied men. And I thought about this, and I want to defend you guys because, hey, you're my ride or dies, you're my team, you're my militia, you're the willitia. And also, it would just play really good on social media for me to defend a bunch of dudes
Starting point is 00:03:38 who sit around on social media wearing jerseys and playing college football 25. But I got to tell you, she might have a point. If you walk in on a dude playing video games, it's... I would just have to think among the things that climb the peak of Mount masculinity, it falls short. It's a small ant-hill.
Starting point is 00:04:02 It's turnoff for the ladies. Silence. No defense from the boys in New York. You can't even mount. That's how masculated you are. Oh, no. You're so... I think it's full.
Starting point is 00:04:21 fine you're so tim waltz you're so tim waltz to america's Kamala harris you know what it means there's something off about tim waltz there's nothing wrong with playing video games yeah i think i look just fine in my athleisure but uh
Starting point is 00:04:36 i mean start splanting cover two load in the box all the different intricacies that go into this game and just kind of show off the brain a little that goes into it i haven't played sci-fi video games it's fine yeah oh i trust trust me boys you start playing And you're explaining cover two, she starts purring.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah, that's what's working for you. So you're saying when I go out this weekend, I shouldn't tell her about my road to glory player. No. Yeah, I think that's the only thing worse is she walks in on you playing video games versus she runs into you at a bar and you start telling her about your video games. Yeah, you're scoring, I'm sure. You're scoring in college football 25 and in the bar. But here is the debate. the question for us today. We'll hit this a little bit later on the Wheel Cane Show. What is the converse?
Starting point is 00:05:27 What is the most unattractive hobby for a woman? What's the biggest turnoff for you if you find out she's really into, say, needlepoint or being an Instagram influencer? What's the biggest turnoff for men when it comes to women? We're going to rank some of these a little bit later on the Wilcane show both ways. You know, video games for men, Instagram influencer for women. and that's come up a little bit later. You can join in. Jump into the comment section on YouTube. Hit us up on social media.
Starting point is 00:05:55 We'll bring you here into the Will Cane show. But it was night two at the DNC. So let's break down our three takeaways from night two at the Democratic National Convention. Story number one. Night two at the DNC saw your varsity players take center stage. When Barack Obama took the stage last night, one can disagree with his politics one can disagree with his philosophy but i think one has to come away going that's when politics was at the top of its game brock obama can deliver a speech
Starting point is 00:06:32 brock obama can command a crowd you'll soon hear from as well bill clinton and you'll remember what it meant to actually be able to execute the exes and o's the cover two in the words of young establishment, James. The actual plays of politics, you saw varsity. You saw a team. It only puts into context, I think, for me, where we are at this point in 2024. Kamala Harris and Tim Walts represent junior varsity. They represent, as Jessica Tarlov told us in Monday's episode of the Will Cain Show,
Starting point is 00:07:12 a blank slate. They represent a return to an election for the 19th, straight year. It is simply a referendum on Donald Trump. But because everything in politics since 2016 has been about Donald Trump, that has meant that not only any manner of personality, but any manner of policy has been able to sneak by in the shadows of darkness of the night. Lack of attention. And all of a sudden, you're running out there, your junior varsity quarterback, hoping to win the state championship. Here's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:07:50 First, Tim Walts. Something is off with Tim Walts. Yesterday on the Will Cane show, Trey Gowdy said Republicans win when we talk about the issues and when we talk about policy. Democrats win when Republicans talk about personality, when they make ad hominem attacks. And I think that's right from Gowdy.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I think it's unwise. I think it's not smart to talk about whether or not Kamala Harris is black or Indian, to talk about Kamala Harris's LSAT score. It's better to talk about the failed job of protecting the American border. But I also can't step away from also saying it like it is. And something's off with Tim Walts. I mean, I want you to look.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Last night Kamala Harris and Tim Walts took to the stage at Ficer Arena in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, the place where, you know, just one month ago, the Republican Party held their convention. and here comes Tim Walts walking out and I'm just going to tell you right now no matter what Mina Combs of ESPN says about her preferred form of masculinity
Starting point is 00:08:54 and that Tim Walts represents a less toxic form of masculinity I don't know a single dude over the age of 16 that acts like that that's the bottom line I don't know anybody and I don't know if you do either who walks out of
Starting point is 00:09:13 out and does the double-hand wave overhead, overhead double-hand wave. Okay? That's just, that's the cold, hard truth. That's much less a guy who's served in the military, much less a high school football coach. Now, maybe Tim Waltz is playing a character. Maybe he's playing this character that we've been delivered for probably some 20-odd years in America. and that's the bumbling middle-aged white dude dad in a sitcom who gets everything wrong and is the butt of the joke.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Maybe that's the character that Democrats want to see. Maybe that's their definition of masculinity. But what I'm seeing right there from Tim Walts, I'll just say this. It's weird. If that's how we're going to define modern political discourse, what's normal and what's weird, that right there is weird. And it's not the weirdest thing about Tim Walts. we've gone over this
Starting point is 00:10:10 over the last couple of weeks since he's been named the vice presidential candidate under Kamala Harris. Tim Walts has trouble with the truth and that is the truth. Now if one is sitting here listening to me and I got some notes last week
Starting point is 00:10:22 when I hosted Jesse Waters' primetime from some very notable figures over the last half century in media, very notable, formative figures in my life and my career in terms of who I looked up to on the TV and who I've had the privilege now
Starting point is 00:10:38 to get to know. I got some notes from people saying, how can you pull out Tim Walts's tenuous relationship with the truth when his opposition is Donald Trump, who has a tenuous relationship with the truth? That's always the rebuttal. First of all, that's not a good enough rebuttal. It's just not. It's not good enough to say, oh yeah, but you are too. What more, I think these conversations have to delve into specifics. Point out to me the lie. I'm not going to sit here and say Donald Trump is a paragon of 100% honesty, that he never exaggerates, that he never isn't guilty of hyperbole, or that he's always told the truth. But I think we have to go through them one by one because I know that most of the things
Starting point is 00:11:22 that have been called lies have been truths, and most things that have been called truths have been lies since center stage was taken over by Donald Trump. But Tim Waltz, in a short period of time, walking out, with both hands raised above his head, doing a double wave to the crowd, straight arm, no bend in the elbow, since he's walked out on center stage with that wave, has been exposed for a very, very, very tenuous relationship with the truth. Here, we've walked through it.
Starting point is 00:11:53 He has, A, exaggerated his military service, not his 24 years in service, which is commendable and should be applauded, should be honored. But he has, and this. This is simply a fact, exaggerated that service to make the electorate, once he became a politician, believe he is deployed into combat. And he is not. He has put out press release. He has made statements saying he's carried weapons of war in war, that he's deployed in support of operation enduring freedom.
Starting point is 00:12:25 He deployed to Italy. He did not deploy to Afghanistan or Iraq. And in fact, stepped out of his military service and away from his unit months before. they deployed to actual combat in Iraq and Afghanistan. He has exaggerated that service. B. Tim Walts, when he was a high school football coach in Nebraska, was arrested for drunk driving. He was taken in.
Starting point is 00:12:54 He was administered the breathalyzer. Ultimately, he got out on some technicalities, had it pled down to a lower charge, but in politics, he turned that into he wasn't guilty. that he drove to and from the police station. The officer didn't think he was drunk. Those are not just a tenuous relationship with the truth and not simply exaggerations. Those are lies.
Starting point is 00:13:19 The officer himself has said, that's not true. The police department arrested Tim Walts said, that's not true. Anyone who was at the police station, and I said, he didn't drive himself and no officer would allow him to drive himself to the police station. He went on, by the way, to move to Minnesota,
Starting point is 00:13:34 become a football coach in Minnesota, and run for political office. lie about his past in drunk driving okay this is where somebody listening goes well you know Donald Trump exaggeration Donald Trump doesn't tell like let's stick with Tim Watts for just a moment instead of deflection and instead of um you are two let's just kind of start adding it up because every politician is guilty of lies in exaggeration but now we're at two we're at two in about two to three weeks of national spotlight. Again, hands raised above his head, straight arm, no elbows, double wave to the crowd.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Then there is Tim Walt saying on MSNBC that he and his wife conceived their children through IVF, making an argument against various regional proposals from Republicans to regulate IVF. He tells a personal story, personal narrative that IVF is responsible for his family. It's not true, and it was even called out on CNN. J.B. Vance knows nothing about that, and then he keeps going into all of these things. Today's IVF day. Thank God from IVF, my wife and I have two beautiful children. Now, that's not accurate, right? I mean, it wasn't IVF. It was a different procedure, and his wife, Gwen Walls, the first lady of Minnesota, is taking care to tell CNN
Starting point is 00:15:01 that they actually use the procedure called intrauterine insemination. IUI. It's a process she describes it as incredibly personal, difficult experience. They did use fertility treatments. It wasn't IVF. Any woman response- Come here, Sergeant Major. I'm sorry. Hold on. Hold on. I want to. Any one of the one in seven women who goes through fertility treatments, IUI is part of the suite of fertility treatments. It's a step below IVF. It's direct insemination versus creating embryos. I think that is a stretch to say that it's not part of the broader fertility treatment. The way they explain it is he just, he just, talks like how regular people talk. I mean, my husband would have not a difference. Well, but Alyssa Farah then goes on on CNN there to say, even, and I'm not here, here to debate the merits of any type of regulation on IVF, but even under those proposals from regional Republicans, it would not include IUI.
Starting point is 00:15:55 So the point is he exaggerated his personal experience to act as though Republicans would have kept him from creating his family. at C and D is, as we've had Pete Hick-Seth and others on, he might not have been quite the college high school football coaches played up to be. He was a defensive coordinator in a high school. I personally don't begrudge him that. I think once a coach, always a coach. But the point is, through four different stories being told in less than four weeks,
Starting point is 00:16:20 he has a very, very tenuous relationship with the truth, and it's super weird. Something is weird. This bumbling sitcom dad character that he's playing, touting to Kamala Harris, finding her Doritos in a convenience, store is not the modern American definition of masculinity. And it is, quite simply, to play the same game of checkers, weird. Second, from the DNC, beyond weird, is the terrifying proposals coming out from the Harris
Starting point is 00:16:49 Waltz, first the Biden-Harris administration and the Harris Walls ticket about the economy. This is actually not weird. This is terrifying. I read now from the street. Kamala Harris is Joe Biden's proposal for 2020. and she's given us very scant details about what she would do in 2025, but she's been a part of an administration for 1,300 days that proposes the following. A 44.6% capital gains tax.
Starting point is 00:17:17 We're at 15%. Jumping that to 44% for capital gains. And that's not even the worst of it. Beginning to tax unrealized capital gains, a 25% minimum, but then it scales up. for unrealized capital gains for people making over a hundred million dollars i want you set aside for one moment the people making over a hundred million dollars part of this proposed legislation do you know how this works so let's just say that you qualify you buy a house for a million
Starting point is 00:17:48 dollars that house as it's appraised in the next year goes up in value to 1.2 million dollars you don't sell the house but you have the house you now owe taxes on the 200 thousand dollars in unrealized capital gains one another example you have a 401k the stock market does well that year. Your stocks go up, but you don't sell, so you haven't received any money. You owe taxes on the increase in the value of your stock portfolio. You say, well, what if I pay that? And then the taxes, then the stocks go down. What if the housing market goes down? I don't know. The point is, both of these proposals, 45% on cap gains, or even worse, taxing unrealized capital gains, it grinds the market to a halt. No more transactions. People stop
Starting point is 00:18:32 trading and you get back now to the hundred million dollars well it doesn't affect me i don't make a hundred million dollars those people flood the market the stock market craters middle class americans or everyone with the four o kit one k get hammered this is not simply ideologically very far left this is inane this has crashed the economy type proposals and these are people telling you that they're here to fix an economy that they've been in charge of for 12 of the last 16 years eight years of Obama, four years of Biden Harris, and we're supposed to look at Kamala Harris today as a brand new politician, ready to save America from the ills of America they have controlled for 12 the last 16 years. And third, from the DNC. There are reports out from Nicole Shanahan
Starting point is 00:19:21 vice presidential candidate for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. They're looking at dropping out of the race. Nicole Shanahan says they are so disillusioned with the DNC, and it's probably. process, quote, we are taking a very serious look at making sure that the people that have corrupted our fair and free democracy do not end up in office, she said on an episode of the podcast, impact theory. Quote, is the risk of a Harris-Waltz president worth us staying in? That is what they are now considering. Why?
Starting point is 00:19:55 They have banned us, shadow-banned us, kept us off the stages, manipulated polls, used lawfare against us, suit us in every possible state. They even planted insiders in our campaign to disrupt it and create an actual legal issue for us. She's a former Democratic donor, always been a part of the Democratic Party. Nicole Shan and Robert F. T. Jr. looking to drop out of the race and throw their support behind Donald Trump to save democracy. Betting markets like it for the first time in a week or two. It's now tightened up. It's back to almost even in the betting markets. Kamala Harris and Tim Walts against J.D. Vance and Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Let's break down the effect of RFK dropping out and the effect of binary thinking on critical thinking with Gutfeld's Cat Timp next on the Will Cain Show. The tunnel to towers, countless veterans villages, they stand as a beacon of hope for those who've sacrificed everything for the United States of America. facilities, they're committed to helping veterans achieve stability and independence by providing housing and services to keep up with each of their individual needs. Now, within the village, residents will find support and community among those who truly understand the meaning of service.
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Starting point is 00:22:13 Donate now to Tunnels and Towers. Kat Timp coming up on the Wilcane Show. Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy host of the TradeGatty podcast. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at foxnewspodcast.com. Dee on YouTube says, yeah, I'm not interested in men who play video games. Tamara Frizek says, yeah, to other men, you think it's fine.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Get up and do something physical or maybe shock her. Ask her how she is. Look her in the eyes. Talk. On the idea that one of the most unattractive hobbies to women is men, play. playing video games. It is the Will Cain Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Hit subscribe at Apple, Spotify, or on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Joining us now, the author of a brand new book, I used to like you until she is also one of the stars of Gutfeld. It is Kat Timp on the Will Cain Show. Hey, Kat. Hey, how are you? Good. Is that right? Video games, one of the most unattractive things men can do as a hobby? I was nodding along the whole time you were saying that.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Yeah. My experience, unfortunately, comes from having dated a man who was into video games and one singular man, because I never did it again. Just the thought of just picture that you're sitting there, you're being ignored while he's wearing a headset and like fighting a fake battle. So now I married a man who fought an actual war. So I'm much more attractive to be a actual veteran than a call of duty. playing man what i'm trying to think and i think we're going to do this in the third segment here today of the will i'm trying to think what else is up there like if you're ranking your five most unattractive hobbies um and this is from the ladies out there um because i know if i want to get like hero status on the internet on social media i should go to battle with you right now i should defend the dudes out there playing college football 25 but i recognize i'm capable of stepping back and going, even if I were in the moment doing it, yeah, this is not, this is not attractive. What else is on the list, though, Kat?
Starting point is 00:24:35 Like, you walk in the room, what's the unattractive hobby? I mean, that, so that to me is, is honestly, I agree with it being, like, number one. Because of the way that guys generally aren't into video games just a little bit. It's often, and then he'll turn it around on you where it's like, you don't understand that I just need time for myself. It's like, that's one, that's really one hell of a way to spend nine hours unshowered, you know, on your couch eating Doritos. But I think also just anything similar, like the guys that are really into those weird fantasy board games is also kind of gross. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:18 I don't want, I do it. I want to be the hobby. I want, I want to be, you know, I can't wait to see you. I love you so much. but I'm not trying to say I'm not a nightmare in my own way because of course I am but
Starting point is 00:25:29 Anne Brettrick says on YouTube watching a man house cleaning does it for me so I don't think she's saying it's one of the more attractive hobbies so I'll just I'll run one by you maybe one of my I'm not going to call an insecurity
Starting point is 00:25:44 but when I do it I do wonder I was I was my wife and I were with another couple of night and I went into their backyard we sat down in their backyard to have a drink And I was like, hey, Marnie, are those hydrangees over there? I really, I really like that. I notice landscaping.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I like landscaping. I think a manicured yard looks good. And I'm curious, and I'm not an expert. I wish I was like, what's that tree? What's this tree? What's that? So I'm just kind of, I'm curious and interested. I would not say I'm a green thumb or a plant.
Starting point is 00:26:17 But every time I do, I'm a little bit like, is that masculine? Landscaping? I think landscaping. is. So my husband, he's actually very into, like, he's a little too into it because we don't have, we don't have a yard. But what he'll do is he'll watch lawnmower videos. He'll watch videos of someone mowing a lawn. I guess it's, he would love nothing more than to just leave this all behind and be like a dude who landscapes in the Midwest somewhere. But unfortunately, that's, that's not where our life is right now. He really does. He wants to be. he wants to be like a blue collar landscaping man so I think that's his way of kind of pretending
Starting point is 00:27:02 for a little bit yeah yeah cutting grass is therapeutic yeah dudes dudes take pride in in their grass that's not to say that I don't start issues that I don't start like that's not to say that like if I see him watching that when I'm in the room
Starting point is 00:27:18 that I don't make it a problem because I do to be clear I'm like you can watch that when I'm not, there's not a beautiful woman in the room. Yeah, I wish you a long and happy marriage cat, because there's going to be a lot of landscaping videos in your future. It's not always going to be attention for you. Something I think you already know.
Starting point is 00:27:40 You have a new book out called I used to like you until. And I want to get into some of that. But the book in large part, through personal stories as well, is you talk a lot about non-binary thinking. And it's worth saying, you know, you talk about binary thinking through a lot of different prisms. So religious prism, political prism. And I think it's worth analyzing this instinct. It's probably an instinct that we all have to reduce things into binary choices.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I want to come back to it in just a moment, but I want to kind of start with something in the news because I think it applies, and that's RFK. and there's this talk of RFK dropping out of the race and the betting market swung to Trump and I'm a little surprised by that I guess we always kind of wondered who does he pull more from does he pull more from first Biden now Harris or does he pull more from Trump and right now it's looking like shockingly he pulls more from Trump because with him out
Starting point is 00:28:40 more of the vote swings to Trump what do you think about this third party guy RFK and him potentially dropping out of the race and his support going to Trump So I think a reason that a lot of, that doesn't surprise me about his support going to Trump because I think a lot of people, what they really like about him is a lot of things he's had to say about COVID. And I actually don't think it's the specific things that he says so much as he said things that weren't the allowed things to say. Whether people agree with the specific things that he says or not, I know people who will be like, oh, I think he's kind of kooky on this or that. but I was if you I mean it wasn't that long ago that people's real life relationships were destroyed over these people veering outside of the acceptable lane of thought on COVID and this stuff that was I mean I don't know most of these conspiracies now turned out to be not conspiracies at all and there were really tangible things that people lost I mean people lost businesses people couldn't say goodbye to loved ones and people lost relationships over things that turned out to be lies anyway and I that's why I do think honestly
Starting point is 00:29:47 that being, everyone does it, right? Everybody has preconceived notions. It's human to have preconceived notions. But I think that it's really healthy and it makes you a smarter, more well-rounded, more creative, more perceptive person to acknowledge that and willingly try to look outside of that and see if what you think is just because of certain pressures or what you think and why you think it. So as I mentioned, you take this idea of non-binary thinking and you bring it through the prism of religion and politics, but I think maybe the most interesting to me is also just our personal relationships become very binary. And this is from some of the talking points and experts from your book, but I'm going to read this. We write people off unnecessarily. We miss out
Starting point is 00:30:40 on personal relationships that could have been fulfilling. For example, someone you might disagree with on guns might have a parent suffering from the same illness or no good lawyer who can keep you out of jail. You know, Kat, I spent five years. You and I actually knew each other before I went to ESPN and before I did sports. We knew each other at National Review. So I was in this world. I left this world and went to sports and now I've come back to this world. And I will say one of my favorite things about five years in sports was, yeah, you stopped. I'm never going to pretend like it's not in there and not part of the conversation. Oh, he's liberal. Oh, he's conservative. Oh, she's this, he's that.
Starting point is 00:31:17 But there were so many other touch points at which you could relate to somebody. The most obvious one was sports. Like, what do you think of the Cowboys? What do you think of this? And it makes people more dimensional, which we are. And it makes people more interesting. And I do think that is a healthier, and maybe it is how most Americans live their life anyway. My five years in sports put me back in touch with America and how they, because what you and I do,
Starting point is 00:31:45 is very much in the bubble of thinking things about politics often. But America has gravitated into that bubble of losing the depth of the person you're interacting with and seeing not how you disagree, but all the commonalities. Yeah. And I'm someone who's independent, and so it's very rare, actually, it's never happened for me to find someone who I'm aligned with on everything.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I have a lot of friends that are conservative, but they don't love Trump. I have a lot of friends that are super maga, love Trump. I have friends that are very left wing. I have friends that are disengaged from it. And all of these relationships are relationships that I'm very, very grateful for. And I think that there's also this fear. I think that there is a fear of expressing an opinion outside of whatever your team is,
Starting point is 00:32:36 if you're seen as, you know, oh, I'm conservative or, oh, I'm liberal. Out of a very real fear, I think, of being ostracized by that group. Because I think as divided as we are, to your point, we're not still as divided in our, in our minds and reality than we see portrayed, not just in the media, but also in our conversations with each other. What's interesting as well, you live in New York. I don't remember where you're from, Kat, but you're not from New York City. Yeah, from the Detroit area. I met your dad one time. My dad, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:08 I remember I met your dad in the lobby. I lived in New York for 15 years and that meant obviously that I had a lot of friends who were liberal the majority of my friends were liberal because I lived in New York it's just that's the world that's the bubble right
Starting point is 00:33:23 I will say this cat and I'm not I don't want to do a tit for tad or I don't want to try to make I don't want to otherwise but I do think and in acutely since Donald Trump that I think that many on the left
Starting point is 00:33:38 use it as their primary identity. So what you and I are talking about is there's so much more to your identity than your politics. But even though I had those friends, and I'm still friends a lot of them, and I think I would say this, often socially, I felt an undercurrent of judgment. Like there's a judgment to whatever is going on or what I might think about something that is about how we differ politically. And it didn't define the relationship 100%. There were other, our kids, our sports, whatever it may be. But I do think that the left has draped themselves in their political identity as their primary identity a little more than the right. I live in Dallas now, and I do think I have some, I think I can compare it.
Starting point is 00:34:26 I don't think it's this extreme on the right. I really don't. I'm not saying it's not there, but I don't think it's as extreme as their primary identity. I think, so I think first of all that you're correct that I think it's gotten worse. in terms of people getting broken by Donald Trump. I've someone that has, my beliefs have been the same. I'm small government across the board.
Starting point is 00:34:47 So sometimes it places me at odds with people on either side. But I had a friend who was a very close friend of mine who suddenly it was a problem, the things that I'd always believed because Trump was running. And all that mattered was that Trump lost. I hadn't changed. But all of a sudden, things were different. And this is a very close friend that is no longer in my life anymore because it became where we'd be out just trying to have like a social event and he'd be like, oh, how are you going to, you know, be talking about the, I had the libertarian candidate at the time, Joe Jorgensen on my comedy advice show, Sincerely Cat, RIP. I had her on that show that I had at the time. And I wasn't even allowed like in his mind to do that because how could I be giving a platform to her right now, meaning the time when Trump must be defeated, defeated, above all else. But I think I've also gotten it from people who, if I'm critical of Trump,
Starting point is 00:35:45 people will come after me, call me a traitor, say that. And again, I've never claimed to be Republican, which is why it's so funny when I'm called a rhino. It's like, no, I'm not, I'm independent. I've never claimed to be Republican either. But I think that you really, really, really nailed it when you say that for people, it can become their identity. And I think something else that I write about in the book is there's this study. And it's very obvious. but moral outrage is more often rooted in self-interest than altruism. It can make you feel like you're doing something to help these problems when you are really not doing anything at all. And I think the perfect example of that is, you know, what we saw even at the convention, the Democratic Convention that's happening this week, which is I'm the good team.
Starting point is 00:36:31 And so therefore, just by you're the bad team, Trump is Dana. as Obama said, Trump is dangerous. And he talked a lot about division being bad. And I agreed with that. But I don't see how calling Trump dangerous really helps achieve those ends, right? Then you get to be good just by very virtue of not being on that bad team. And I think that can be really hard for people to give up because then it's like, oh, wait, I'm not just good because of the box that I check when I vote or because I'm not a Republican. Then you have to think about actually getting out there and doing something.
Starting point is 00:37:03 That's a lot harder. that's really good moral outrage is more about self-interest than it is about altruism that is a very that it's a very flowery and accurate way i think of explaining what we've all kind of used shorthand virtue signaling right what you're doing is draping yourself in virtue by having the right opinion and i've said and i don't want to spend the the bulk of our conversation being like and the left is about it too you know but um i think that for much of the left you're voting has become the ballot box has become your church and your vote has become your act of penance or your or your charity that you're a good person because you went into the voting booth and
Starting point is 00:37:46 checked the right box to your point or even less just express the right outrage on social media or even in your social circles that you become a good person um i think that is definitely something indicative of the left now this is not i don't want to do this to say everything on the right is right you know but but i do think this binary thinking that you're talking about on a personal level has really really inhabited the left see i and and i definitely understand i i i get it from both sides and i explain it in the book this way where i will have you know viewers of fox and this is not all viewers right i i have i'm on tour i sell out shows these are fox people coming to these shows. A lot of the audience is awesome. But there are, of course, those exceptions of people that
Starting point is 00:38:38 are like, she made fun of Trump or she's, you know, she's not a registered Republican or she votes third party, therefore she's my enemy. And they'll give me those things. On the other side, though, there are people who are on the left who will not speak to me at all just because I work at Fox News. So it doesn't matter what I say. And the difference in those two groups of people that that i that i noticed though is the people who require you to be predictable right i used to like you until the people who on the right who who require you to not deviate from anything they agree are honestly strangers their their audience and you are a personality to them at least the way you're describing it to me right now and the people who on the left who are ostracizing you because of your
Starting point is 00:39:26 views are supposed to be the ones that already know you on a deeper level and understand those vulnerabilities or understand the the layers of you as a human being. And I guess that's the difference. I do think the right is guilty of it. But I haven't had many friends on the right ever go, well, will you disagree with me in this way? And therefore, we're not friends. And the left, it seems to be more willing to exercise personal relationships because of politics. you know i think that makes a lot of sense if we if i if i can also get just get really deep and probably too personal right now but it's in the book so whatever i have experienced that with religion as well i've had experienced personal relationships where i'm i'm no longer religious
Starting point is 00:40:05 and that's created some riffs in family relationships i i get really deep into the relationship with my mom who's been dead for 10 years which not because it was easy but for me i'm somebody who i know that I would be happier if I were religious. So I'm the I'm the opposite of judge religious people. I know I would be happier. I personally can't get there. But this is another thing where and I actually, I'm not, I'm not closing that door. I hope to get there someday. So it's actually more than just that I that I wish I could. But I think that the key here is to be willing to talk to people. I have many, many close friends who are very, very religious people who are not judgmental people. I think that this country was founded on individual rights. And I think the more
Starting point is 00:40:53 that we could get back to, you know, respecting individual rights, that would be better. But sadly, I think we go more and more towards this idea in the opposite direction where you kind of have to fall in line. I really think that the key is communicating with each other more. And I really think the key is being willing to have those conversations and not shutting each other out. I'm willing to put myself out there. So. And you have. You have in I used to like you and tell.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And I know you've got to go in just a moment. I just want to share two thoughts with you before you go. So when it comes to the other two areas that of binary thinking that you, that I've mentioned that you talk about, one is politics. And we can talk about this on another occasion. I don't like partisanship. I don't consider myself on a team. I'd like to think that I'm a critical thinker. I also think it's interesting that we have to think about over the last 10 years how those two
Starting point is 00:41:47 teams, those two bipolar teams and politics, have really changed their underlying policies. And I don't know if that should make a cynical or hopeful to the binary system. I honestly do not know yet what I think about that. But on the religious front, I'll be interested in continuing to know you. And what I mean by that, and I don't mean to be patronizing or I'm older than you. but I mean I think I said this to my audience or I hope you know I lost I lost my religion for while I mean I lost faith and I know why and it was a lack of humility for me it was too much hubris and too much intellectualism and and these types of things I know you're going to have a
Starting point is 00:42:25 child soon which is awesome yeah by the way I'm four months pregnant yeah I'm not saying that'll be the thing that changes it but it could be the thing that changes it I don't think religion as someone who has come around you like you said you're open to it and by the way I always always was as well. I wasn't dogmatic. I was always open. It's not bipolar. I don't think it's a question mark. And that's what I would have described myself. And I just think actually getting beyond strict bipolar thinking and just being open-minded and open-hearted is what led me back to seeing that it's the path to a greater purpose. And maybe it will find, maybe you'll find it. Maybe you won't. But I don't, I will say, I don't think I got there because I joined a team or was bipolar.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Yeah. But I was not just critically thinking, but critically open. to something that I think is ultimate truth. Yeah, and I'm still open, and I, you know, I'm always open to changing as a person, you know, and as I learned new information, and even I make very excited to be a mom, which is never a sentence that I thought I would say in my time. And again, you've known me for a long time, so you know how true that is. That I'm, I'm four months pregnant. I can't wait to be a mom.
Starting point is 00:43:32 And as much as I tease my husband, he's truly the best thing that's ever happened to me. And I'm really excited for this. like next chapter sounds so cheesy, but it is. I mean, it's, my life is about to completely change and I can't wait. It's going to be awesome, as long as he gives up video games. All right, you guys should go get her book. It's, I used to like you and tell. It's the newest book from Kat Timp. As she said, she's vulnerable. She's thinking through these things, open-minded and critically, and applies it to all aspects of life. I think you'll really enjoy it. I used to like you and tell. Kat Timp, thank you so much for being on the Will Kane show.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Thank you. Great seeing you. You too. All right, go check out that book. I think that's a rarity, meaning there's a level of authenticity of willingness to see not just yourself as an individual. Everybody wants to see themselves as individuals, but to see other people as individuals. You see what I'm saying? Like constantly, as a habit, as a practice, walking through the world, seeing other people
Starting point is 00:44:31 as individuals. Ryan Hanchett says on YouTube, seriously cat, video games are a no-go. A dude can't escape a fantasy battle. but to watch videos with someone mowing the grass because you fantasize about having a yard is perfectly okay i think actually yes ryan i mean look i'm a video game defender i want to be there for the williscia but can't can't we like as an individual step inside for a moment the mind of a woman just see yourself through the eyes for a moment not what you want it to be and how you feel defensive but through the eyes of a woman and simply me 12 says well if they're playing video games
Starting point is 00:45:06 at least they aren't cheating on their wives sounds like someone needs a hobby of their own some men on the other hand get mad if a woman is reading a book there's always a silver lining if you're playing video games you aren't catting around on the town let's get into this and whether or not as it turns out you can get fired and not rehired because you have a bad personality or you're bad at your job and it's not just because you're black that's coming up on the will cane show it is time to take the quiz it's five questions in less than five minutes. We ask people on the streets of New York City to play along.
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Starting point is 00:46:02 Listen and follow now at Fox Truecrime.com. The saga of Brian Flores and the saga of men who play video games. It is the Will Kane Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Hit subscribe, Apple, Spotify, YouTube. Jump into the comments. Join the community here on the Will Cane show. Like Jessica Barnard on YouTube says, golfing gives me way more ick than video games. Okay, Jessica.
Starting point is 00:46:35 I'm not even a golfer, but now we're having trouble. like that's that's that's a step too far uh get her out yeah i hear you young establishment james get her out van landry says when it comes to all the landscaping and cutting grass talk i thought i wanted that 20 years after living in new england with leaves grass and snow i now want low maintenance i want a condo um all right wellish in new york city you have 60 seconds you have 60 seconds on the clock, you have elected as your leader to a day's, Dan, to make your argument to the jury listening right now across this country on YouTube, Facebook, and on terrestrial radio, you have 60 seconds to defend video games. Go. So video games are escapism a little bit. There's nothing
Starting point is 00:47:25 wrong with them. They're all diverse. As long as you're, you know, interacting in life still. What are you doing? Did we just go under the stage of the DNC? Just throwing a work? word out there. They're all diverse. Yeah, exactly. Point for the mock jury. Yep, exactly. But there's nothing wrong with having a hobby like that. I mean, as long as it doesn't take up all your time and that's all you do, it's fine. You know, the ladies love to watch their Bachelor and Bachelorette and binge watch those shows. So it's not all that much different, but we're actually using our, you know, hand-eye coordination and doing these things.
Starting point is 00:48:01 And we are basically athletes, if you want to put it that way. We're basically athletes doing this. Oh, I like it. So it's that much different than binge watching a television show, but we're doing a little bit more than that. So I think it's not that bad, and I think ladies should, you know, lay off us just a little, little bit. Quick cross-examination. If you're working on your hand-eye coordination through your Xbox paddle and you're basically an athlete, if you're playing Call of Duty, are you basically a Navy SEAL? I wouldn't say that.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I'm not using Stolen Valor here, but I'm saying that, you know, you work on your eyesight, you work on here. I don't know how I'm defending this one. This is a tough one, but yeah. Some of my buddies at breakfast this morning were giving me a hard time. They said Kane sure is posting a whole lot of homoerotic photos on his Instagram
Starting point is 00:48:49 feed from his seal swim in New York City. And then they said, he definitely thinks he's an honorary Navy SEAL. What do you got, Patrick? I see you raising your hand. By the way, before he goes, any odds on what not Patrick remembers what he wanted to say? It was literally 15 seconds ago, he raised his hand. He wanted to say
Starting point is 00:49:07 50, 50. 50. Let's just see. 50, 50 odds. Does you remember? Go tinfoil. Okay, I had it. And now, no, I was going to remember. So, the armies literally, in the Air Force, are literally hiring
Starting point is 00:49:23 people as drone pilots based off of video game play. Video games are that important. It is valor. It's becoming valor. Pilot simulation. All right, I was nervous for you, Patrick, I was nervous. Sometimes you're like a lawnmower that's 20 years old and hadn't been greased up.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Like, I'm yanking the chain. It's like, it gets started, maybe, but it takes a few pulls on the chain. And there at the beginning, I was like, here we go again. The lawnmower's not firing up today. I guess we're not cutting the grass. But you got it out. You got it out. You got it out.
Starting point is 00:49:54 And you basically said that everybody on video games is now an American hero. You guys let us know. By the, we have a ranking. I think we have a ranking of the least attractive hobbies for me. man. We're going to get to that in just a moment, but I want to take a diversion here into Brian Flores. For anyone that's not a sports fan or anyone that is, you could have forgotten. Brian Flores is the current defensive coordinator for the Minnesota Vikings, but he was the head coach of the Miami Dolphins during some very rough years. And years, when they got to select
Starting point is 00:50:25 former Alabama quarterback, Tua, Tua, Tua, as their first round draft pick. And he wasn't good. Tua under Brian Flores. Now, why was that? Well, Tua Tuaanga Vailua went on the Dan Lebitard show and explained his relationship with Flores. Listen to this. If you woke up every morning and I told you, you suck at what you did, that you don't belong doing what you do, that you shouldn't be here, that this guy should be here, that you haven't earned this right, and then you have somebody else come in and tell you, dude, you are the best fit for this. Like, you are accurate, you are the best, whatever, you are this, you are that.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Like, how would it make you feel listening to one or the other? You see what I'm saying? And then you hear it, you hear it, regardless of what it is, the good or the bad, and you hear it more and more. You start to actually believe that. So that led to a little bit of a mini debate in sports media about, you know, what is hard coaching versus not abusive, but self-defeating coaching.
Starting point is 00:51:38 And I think that is an actually interesting conversation. I do. I mean, I don't think that you have to treat athletes, specifically pro athletes, with kid gloves. But there was an interesting clip going around about Nick Saban, known as one of the harder coaches out there when he was at the University of Alabama, saying he never treated his quarterback like he treated the rest of the team.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I don't know if that's true from Sabin. But he says he didn't treat the quarterback the same as the rest of the the team because everyone knows the role of confidence it's real confidence is like the ultimate performance enhancing drug for this job and certainly for your job and certainly for athletics um i don't know about different sports like the role confidence plays in degrees but since my sons are so into soccer and for that matter also a place kicker i think it is gigantic in those two jobs probably golf as well but like in soccer confidence is literally a performance enhancing drug you will play markedly i'm going to say 30% is a swing and it could be more
Starting point is 00:52:48 than that if you believe in yourself and you think everybody else believes in you you will play 30% better than if you feel like nobody believes in you and your coach thinks you stink i haven't thought about quarterback but my guess is that two is on to something here and if somebody is telling you every single day that you stink you don't belong and you're bad at your job you will begin to believe that you will and then you will literally be what you believe you will be worse at that job but that's not actually the part of the debate that stuck out to me because everyone is kind of having this conversation about hard coaching versus confidence building what's took out to me is the same people on ESPN and i just want to say i'll i'll ask that
Starting point is 00:53:34 the Willisha because I all want to be the guy that's always like, oh, well, I've been involved in all these race debates, so it's something that I noticed. But if you notice, this is, I'm not mining here. This is not needle in the haystack stuff. Brian Flores sued the NFL for racial discrimination because he has not been rehired as a head coach in the NFL. And when he was fired, the conversation was, well, the dolphins were literally tanking and they put him in a position to lose, and that set him up to fail. And they wouldn't have done that to a white coach. and they would have had more time and then he's not rehired
Starting point is 00:54:07 and it's like well it's because he's a black coach and my point is okay my point in all this is it's a little bit like our conversation with cat timp about seeing people as individuals you want another example I'll give you another example to show you how this happens over and over Eric B. Enemy for a long time
Starting point is 00:54:22 was the offensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs and a lot of offensive coordinators under Patrick Mahomes or over Patrick Mahomes got head coaching jobs Matt Nagy who else there's like three of them have gone on to get head coaching jobs and everybody's like well if all those white coaches get jobs but eric the enemy doesn't then it's once again the NFL is racist and my constant rebuttal would be
Starting point is 00:54:46 and was and still is what do you know about these people as individuals right if you walk through the world thinking everybody hate you because you're black or white or mexican whatever you have given yourself a hall pass on your individual characteristics that might be impacting how other people see you. Maybe not everyone around you is racist. Maybe you're the bad roommate. Maybe it's your personality. And we have to know these things before we indict everyone. And when I say everyone, if you're suing the league, you're suing 32 owners. So you're saying 32 owners don't like black head coaches instead of your reputation, your personal abilities, your personality have become well known. And people don't want.
Starting point is 00:55:33 that. And I wouldn't want that. The ultimate asset in the NFL is a first-round drafted quarterback. It sets your franchise up for 10 years or sets it back for five years. It just is death or life. And I'm going to put that in the hands of a man who is going to berate him? No way, man. And so my whole point of this is, I don't see that conversation in sports right now. Literally a year to two years ago, everyone today that is talking about how bad of a coach Brian Flores is, and that's what they're all saying. Like ESPN analysts are not defending this as hard coaching. They're saying this is bad coaching. Literally a year or two go, we're saying, oh, well, Brian Flores is not getting jobs because he's black. And I don't hear any accountability
Starting point is 00:56:23 for that nonsense, which I would say is toxic, cancerous, and divisive nonsense today. I hear no accountability for calling everyone racist. Now, my question to you guys, who am I today? Am I the guy forcing race in the conversation? Am I the guy with a memory? Which one am I today? I don't think you are at all because the perfect example of this
Starting point is 00:56:48 is Angel Hernandez sued MLB for racial discrimination, but it's a lot easier to objectively judge an umpire because they have scorecards. We don't know what goes on in those coaching locker rooms, but now that we do, it's seen and it's a big it's a big story and the floor's name is out there and memorable yeah and I think there's a need to bring it in you're you're not just bringing race into it I mean when things like this come up that is bad coaching that type of what two had just said
Starting point is 00:57:17 is is an awful thing so it you know it should be brought up and I guess what I'm upset about is what I would call drive-by race baiting or drive-by accusations of racism we do this it consumes our cycle whatever it may be look you think anybody's ever gone back and said what are the facts on bubble wallace in the garage like we know the facts by the way because we've seen we've seen there was it was it even an FBI report I think the FBI was called in to investigate that there's never an accountability it's like it's and so like if you ask people on the street the average person did someone hang a noose in bubble wallace's garage I think they're going to go yeah that did happen right and just
Starting point is 00:57:59 like hey did trump call nazis and white supremacists very fine people yeah that did happen right no one the the most obvious examples everybody goes the correction the newspapers on page two and at the bottom of the page but the but the lie was in 12 point font on the front page you know before and it's like no one ever comes back after torching the village down to go hey um was it really was the Was the village really infected with Ebola? Did we need to torch the huts? No one ever goes back to it. Like this, we go on, we destroy the village.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Why, Ebola? Was there Ebola? Who cares? Ebola? It's like everything's racist, but we never go back to say, even after evidence shows like this. Brian Flores will never be a head coach in the NFL. Do we all agree with that? He's done. Yep. Will he ever get a head coaching job in the NFL?
Starting point is 00:58:50 Very slim chance. I think no. And it'll have nothing to do with his skin color. nothing to do with his skin color. I don't know. I just, at some point, we have to have a corrective mechanism in real time and also after the fact so that we can, this is healing the country. Facts, truth, and accountability heals the country.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Drive-by accusations of people's internal motivations with no evidence is what divides the country. And that's not a denial of the existence of racism. Perhaps it's actually a protection of the corrective mechanisms of racism. which is going to require truth. Okay. Lighten the mood. Now, back to you guys in New York,
Starting point is 00:59:33 share with me the most unattractive hobbies after video games for women. Can you see this? You can read that to us. Go ahead. This is according to Liz Wheeler. Okay. Playing video games is the least attractive hobby.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Collecting figurines is next in that order. Hold on. So what is that? Is that like Star Wars figures? Yeah, like collectibles. Yeah, like, and yeah, sports figure, Boblehads, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:00:06 What is that? Is that Holcogne? Is that Holcogne? Let's get one. Hold on. Oh, yeah. So you're number two on the list. He does have a figurine.
Starting point is 01:00:16 And I play video game. I should have some of my desk. Isn't that what every person does? Yeah. Just can you... Can you... Can you... You just promised me
Starting point is 01:00:24 you won't do bobbleheads. though, that's a little overdone. Is there a new version of that, Dan, like the pop sockets? Is that a thing? Yeah, there's something. It's just, the bobblehead's overdone. Even Dan was getting a little
Starting point is 01:00:37 weary of it. Okay. All right. What's his show for a while? All right, collecting figurines is number two. All right, this I agree with. This should be on the top for me, actually, is magic tricks.
Starting point is 01:00:48 That should be the number one least attractive hobby. I'm just throwing that out there. So here's the thing. But magic tricks are awesome. Oh, come on. I know they're awesome, but like, come on, dude.
Starting point is 01:01:01 That's not very hot. Have you ever been, if Chris Angel walks up and does a magic trick, you are, you love it. When I see it on TV, magic tricks are awesome and you know it. Now, here's the thing. You don't want to date it. You don't want to date it.
Starting point is 01:01:20 That's why those dudes, have you noticed like these, the vein of magician? There's the magician with like the vest on and you know he's doing it and he's goofy and I could see how he so what the the alternative is is the Ed Hardy magician right you know like the Vegas guy wearing Ed Hardy with a ton of tats and piercings and he's gone the other way to show you he's actually a grungy magician so he's cool he's mysterious yeah I like the goofy ones all right what's it what's next all right online trolling is unattractive I didn't know that was a hobby to be honest
Starting point is 01:01:51 heck yeah it's a hobby is it oh yeah yes damn if you think all yes like if we were looking at internet comments any particular platform
Starting point is 01:02:04 and I love you guys in the comment section I do I want you in the comment section but I'm asking you in the comment section right now the people around you
Starting point is 01:02:10 how many are bots and how many are professional trolls like when I say professional trolls they devote too much time to this you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:02:22 and by the way I want you all here But either way You're in the comment section right now On Facebook or YouTube You recognize another person In the comments or YouTube That is real
Starting point is 01:02:34 And someone I would say For example There's a member of a community with you here That you're having an actual conversation with Versus Online trolling I think we can all agree That's pretty unattractive
Starting point is 01:02:46 What's next to a day All right Let's see what we got Gambling Is next on the list I mean that could ruin your lap So, yeah, that's a real bad thing. I think they just don't want to see obsession with that.
Starting point is 01:03:00 And then next is building model trains. I mean, that's hot. Come on. Come on. What about like a battlefield? Go down and give me the end of the list. All right. Taxidermy is next.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Comic book collecting and bird watching. The older I get, the more I understand bird watching. I'm just throwing that out there. Hold on. Taxidermy. is that like if you have taxidermy in your house or if you are a taxidermist
Starting point is 01:03:27 I really don't know what that means because women don't like taxidermy they don't walk deer heads on the wall but I don't I like that but or is that if you're actually a taxidermist because
Starting point is 01:03:43 yeah I could see how like walking into a house of half taxidermied animals would be a real turn off but that's a that taxidermy is a profession I don't count that as a hobby That's an actual living. So I guess it would be just having taxidermy. Will, have you ever had one of those things in a house or anything?
Starting point is 01:03:59 Like a deer or a cow. What are you talking about? It's from Texas. Yeah. I'm from a small town in Texas, Jeff. It's a rhetorical question. I've had ducks, pheasants. I have actually never had a full-on myself deer mount.
Starting point is 01:04:14 European mount. European mounts just the rack, not the full-on head. Yeah. but I'm not I'm not dying to get one in my house right now I don't have one in my house right now I should keep one in this studio yeah just put a big old right above you maybe a long horn big old that's yeah I mean that's that's a little different because that's not
Starting point is 01:04:39 you know something you shoot you don't hunt those yeah but okay really quickly then what is the what is the converse What is the most unattractive hobbies for women in the eyes of men? Now, there's been a couple nominations pre-show today. So what do you think is the most unattractive thing for a woman? Hobby. I'll go, pretending to be a foodie or an influencer. That is a bad hobby for me, I think.
Starting point is 01:05:08 So you're going out on date with a girl, and you find out she's an influencer. Is there a threshold on that? like if she is a certain, like she's super big, does it get okay for you? So I'm like Kat. Like between a wannabe influencer and an influencer. I'm like Kat. I did it once and I'm never doing it again in a relationship. I've been through that and it's not.
Starting point is 01:05:32 So Jack Bryan is dating an influencer from Barstall. That would be a turnoff for you. Yeah. And I think his fans are getting a little, you know, hey, you might want to like tone it down a little bit kind of thing. of her so Shane Gillis is dating a girl my age now and she's I don't know someone unpopular among those fans she's an influencer yeah she's like in the city friends of friends but little they're all a little self-centered I'm gonna get in trouble I'm trying to think what the most unattractive hobby is for a woman crocheting oh I got a good one I think there's a I think
Starting point is 01:06:11 there's a no crocheting wouldn't be it What? I say this as someone with Taylor Swift on my workout playlist, but I think not in moderation. Moderation is fine, just like video games in moderation is fine, but anytime there's a super obsession with Taylor Swift, I think it's a major red flag.
Starting point is 01:06:31 And I would add like... Yeah, man, I think of like teenagers. It's like it's mid-20s too. Cats? Yeah, I would add like anytime they become obsessed with something that it makes it their personality. So, like, you have Disney, you know, adults where it's like, that's everything about them as Disney.
Starting point is 01:06:53 It's the same with Swifties. Like, you have the people who just listen, and then you have the people who are Swifties, and that's their entire personality. I got one. I got a controversial one, and this is where we're going to end the show today, but we're all going to be honest. All right, you meet a girl, and she's super into sports. she's super into football she has a lot of takes she's she's ready to talk to you about the broncos
Starting point is 01:07:20 versus the jags this weekend and i want you to be honest that sounds yeah when you're 19 or 20 it sounds fantastic sitting back to a day because you know i'm telling the truth yeah um so there's there's definitely a i'm on to something there's a spectrum there on that there's a reason for that there's a reason they're so into it um there's a spectrum on that for sure there's being interested in sports but you know what i'm my mom is into it my sister-in-law is into it and i never judge them now never never and i i love it and i talk it with them but it they're not trying to impress me do you know what i mean that's the thing if it feels affected like you're trying to impress me or you're creating it feel that's the whole thing maybe that's disney maybe
Starting point is 01:08:12 that's Taylor Swift, maybe that's influencing, and maybe that's the sports thing. If your image creating, it's a turnoff. Do you know what I mean? Like, if this whole thing feels like an affectation, it's a turn off. If you're genuine, you know, then it comes with kind of some humility and I'm into it. You're not trying to be an expert, but I just like it. Then it's not. It's not. And I think that is the tie that the thread that goes through for men. Just don't try to impress me. Quit trying to affect something, an image to me. whether that's Instagram, sports, or with Taylor Swift. All right, jump into the comment section on YouTube, Facebook.
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