Will Cain Country - Secretary Rubio: One Man, Infinite Jobs

Episode Date: January 9, 2026

In this Friday edition of ‘Will Cain Country,’ Will and The Crew revisit Will’s debate with Congressman Seth Moulton (D-MA) yesterday on 'The Will Cain Show,' seeing if the allegations of Will being “wrecked” hold any water. Plus, they give their analysis of newly released footage showing a different angle of the ICE shooting in Minneapolis, before diving into the chaos that is the current state of the college football transfer portal and Secretary Marco Rubio's viral memes.   Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@willcainnews⁠⁠⁠) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Will versus Congressman Seth Moulton, who got their ass kicked. College football transfer portal is going crazy, a new angle on the ice shooting in Minneapolis, and much more. It is Will Kane Country, normally streaming live every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern time. At the Will Kane YouTube channel, the Will Kane Facebook page. We're here, as always, on Spotify for Apple. Yeah, I mean, like, Will totally got his ass handed to him, Dan. I mean, it was, like, ridiculous how bad that debate was. It's terrible.

Oh, sorry. Are we rolling? What's up, Will? We should just be rolling. Yeah, I don't know you're talking about. Of course we are. Yeah, man. Are we rolling?

Yeah, we are. Oh, okay. All right, good. Oh, look at Scott. Just left Miami out. By the way, that was pass interference. Final play in the game. I fell asleep.

No rooting interest. That was passing in, past interference. Yes? Yes. Yes. Clearly, pass interference. Clearly. It only would have been 15 yards.

I like refs swallowing a whistle. I actually like refs swallowing a whistle in the final moments of a game. Let them play. Don't let yourself become the story. Don't become the deciding factor in a game. I hate games decided on penalties. But that wasn't close. That was PI.

Let me look at it. By the way, I fell asleep. I did too. I fell asleep. And I was going in and out. It was one of those sleeps where I was going in and out. And I went out. Ole Miss was up.

I went out and Miami was celebrating. I'm like, what happened? My son came in. I'm like, what happened? Let's see. Miami was getting away with a lot. I mean, they did dominate the line of scrimmage, but they're getting away with a lot of forms. I'm watching it right now.

That's interference. Yeah. What? And the announcers were, right. The announcers were saying, oh, Oh, they were going back and forth, so that's not, oh, come on. Like, watch the clip again. I'm watching it right now.

It's low motion. I'm not going after any particular announcer, truly, because I don't even remember who was calling that game. I find myself disagreeing with the announcers so often now on the whole, is this a turnover? Is this a catch? Is this a penalty? I feel like they get the, I don't know if I'm not, okay. Are they getting it wrong? How about this?

They're just getting it very different than me. When I have no rooting interest, they're just like, I'm like, that is not what I see. How are you so certain? I agree. That's tough. I do hate, I agree. I hate when it comes down to those calls, except when it's my own team. But, you know, I'm just happy Miami's in because now it gives Notre Dame a little more redemption.

Because we barely lost to a team that's in the national championship. It's rooting interest by proxy. Rooting interest by echoes of effects on your team. Yes. See, I don't care. I want Miami to suffer a painful, agonizing, you know, loss in the national championship game.

I hope they never even got there. But, like, I was really pulling for Ole Miss. Like, we have people on the inside there. Like, we interviewed Bill Jordan from Realtree, like, last year. And ever since then, like, they've been kind of fun to follow, you know? He's a big booster for. Ole Miss? Well, I have a friend whose son plays for Miami. So if it weren't for him, I would be totally rooting against Miami. But I am, he's the starting center for Miami. And so that makes me

pull for them a little bit. But otherwise, I just wanted this Old Miss redemption story. I wanted this Lane Kiffin jilted us redemption story. Oh, Miss winning the national championship after Lane Kiffin does that to the program, would have been incredible. That would have been the best Cinderella story. Yeah. I agree. Damn it. Now I want to see that. It's too bad. Too late. Now I guess I'm I mean, and I do gravitate toward the

underdog and Cinderella story, so I guess that's now, shockingly, I'm not sure they qualify. It's Indiana. The reason I say I'm not sure they qualify is I think they might be the best team in the country. Yes. Like legitimately the best team in the country. They are.

Yeah. Undefeated, number one seed, underdog. Their quarterback is terrible at post-game interviews, but it's fun. He's so easy to root for, though. I know. You want that for Rendoza. You want that for Signetti. You want that for Indiana. And I got nothing for Oregon.

I have no reason. I guess Charlie Kirk liked Oregon. Other than that, I don't have any other reason to root for Oregon. Literally. Donald Duck was their master? All right. I want to talk about college football. because I have something else I want to get into today, which I think is a really fascinating thing happening in college football that really upends the whole idea of underdog and really upends the idea of Blue Bloods.

And we're going to get to that in just a little bit. But here on this very laid back edition, Friday edition of Will Kane Country, what we're going to do is we're going to work through some various topics. And we're going to start with the guys throwing several things at me, including the fact, let's just start with I got my ass kicked. That's the consensus. First, let's just do this. Poned, dude, poned. Are you suggesting, Dan? You texted this morning.

Yesterday I had Congressman Seth Moulton, Democrat from Massachusetts on Will Cain Show on the Fox News Channel. We had a pretty vigorous debate, impassioned. When I came in, Scott, my tech guy was fanning me like I was on fire. And my security guard came in. And she was like, her mind was blown. She was like, oh, is that, what was that? Is that you? Like she's like, it's kind of new.

She's only been here for a month and she's like, I don't know what just happened. I'm like, what are you talking about? That's like vintage Will Kane. It's like me at CNN. That's me at ESPN. I like mixing it up here and there. But her mind was blown, like didn't know that club was in my bag. And I'm like, that's like all the clubs.

The other clubs that you're seeing are the ones that I'm constantly. I'm constantly having to hit my three wood. And truth is, I like my five iron. That's what I normally hit with. So, yeah, big debate over whether or not the U.S. military intervention in Venezuela was illegal and separately, whether or not the ICE shooting in Minneapolis was murder. All the Democrats are out there calling it murder. It's just so insane. So irresponsible, so reckless.

Anyway, Dan, I think you. have, before we get to Will getting his ass kicked, we'll let the audience judge for themselves, right? You have a little bit of yesterday's conversation with Congressman Moulton. By saying this is illegal, the president clearly has this authority, but I want to move to this is a limited time. It's just constitution. Like read the Constitution. It's not hard. I'm familiar. I went to law school. I don't know how familiar you are with the Constitution. I don't view you with that knowledge just because, yeah. That really puts you in touch with ordinary Americans. Okay. No, you didn't. No, no, that's a shifting scale. You said, do I understand

the Constitution. I'm confident in both that I understand the Constitution and the will of the American people, but one is not the same. Well, actually the will of the American people is clearly against this. Boom. Interesting click. Interesting clip you picked there, Dan. Well, this is from our friends at the war. That's the one being shared. Yes. Yeah, that's the one being shared by the left. I say friends loosely. Yes. Yeah. Well, I mean, this is the one that clearly shows like you own this dude. I mean, the law school line was fantastic. Yeah.

That's the consensus in the comments. Like, literally, this clip has a million, almost a million views. I was watching all the comments on Facebook. Everyone's like, oh my God, dude, you roasted that guy from that clip. I thought the best, here's the thing. We are analyzing a

moment after the fact, and it's so dushy for me to sit here and say what I did well or not. The part that I thought was the most compelling was when I cross-examine style asked him, did you interview the ICE agent involved in the shooting in Minneapolis? No. Now, I will say, Congressman Moulton knew immediately what was happening. He saw the trap. It was a cross-examination. If this were a courtroom, I could have directed the witness, asked the judge to direct the witness to answer the question. But he saw the

trap and tried to exit through the side door. And he started going on about the file. But I followed up. Okay, did you see the police reports? Have you read ICE agents, paperwork and write-ups on the incident said, no. Have you interviewed any eyewitnesses? No. And so I said, in conclusion, Congressman, to be clear, you have talked a lot about due process. You have not interviewed a witness. You have not seen the paperwork. You have not seen the filings. You have not interviewed the ice agent involved. And your vision of due process is to watch a viral video and run to social media and yell murder. That to me was the most damning moment for him. Now, this moment, let's just say talking about Dushi, it's never good when you say I went to law school.

Like, it's just never good. Don't say that. That's not going to work. Normally, I would agree with you. Normally I would agree with you. But he brought up knowing the Constitution. And it was your character backstory, your character background of knowing the Constitution. So it's not Dushi in this case. And I give you the point. Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Cain Country. At Medcan, we know that life's greatest moments are built on a foundation of good health, from the big milestones to the quiet winds. That's why our annual health assessment offers a physician-led, full-body checkup

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Listen and follow now at Fox News Podcasts.com or wherever you listen to podcasts. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. I mean, I did spend three years studying the Constitution. Yes, exactly. I did. I mean, you can tell I was a little offended in that moment. But by the way, you don't have. to go to law school. You don't, I did, I know. Yeah, I got angry face on that. But the, you don't have to go to law school to understand the Constitution. So, you know, I just,

I, that's not, I'm not super proud of that line. But here's what's also important. The bulwark posts that, and I saw the comments, but people point out, it's, it's, it's, it's just bad. logic. He goes, read the, his line to me is read the Constitution. And my response is, I did. I studied it for three years. And then knowing that I had dropped the douchey line of I went to law school, he's like, oh, you went to law school. That really puts you in touch with American people. Yeah. And I'm like, wait a minute, that's not what you were suggesting. You weren't suggesting is my finger on the pulse of the American public. You were suggesting that I didn't have adequate knowledge of the Constitution. And one is not the, both are not the same. And Like, you changed the scale on me. And so I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. First of all, you played the elitist game of you know more than me. I matched your elitist game and then you played the populist game. Oh, you're in touch to American people.

Well, what I wish I would have said, my George Costanza, oh, yeah, went to the jerk store and they're out of you moment is, I wish I would have said, is you went to Andover, Congressman. You went to a boarding school in Massachusetts and you've got your finger on the point. pulse of masses of the American people. Like, I forgot to play this character fascination game. But it is, I continue to be fascinated. I talked to Patrick this morning about this, about the way these things go down. Look, I think that I acquitted myself, if I might say so, myself. Very well in that nine minutes or whatever it was.

My way, did you hear me in there? Congressman, I'm rushing us along because you have to go. You gave us a hard out. You have to go vote. And he's like, I know. And I go, well, I've been here before because I don't want you going to social media like scumbag Tolariko and saying Will Kane ran from the question. Although, Dan, you said all your buddies were saying all your Brooklyn brunch crew that his line to me is play the video. Like I somehow was unwilling to play the video of the incident in Minneapolis.

So I got the text this morning. I woke up to it. And they were like, oh, it was the bull work. video they sent me of him saying Will didn't wouldn't play the video and so they're like why wouldn't Will play the video and he's lying saying he did play the video and I went and I was like I cut the moment

of you playing the video and I was like actually he did really transition really fast after that so people just see that and they think that's what happened yeah literally played the video what's an hour long show I know so they saw that one clip on the internet and was like well Will's lying because he didn't actually play the video.

But I was like, actually, he did. What, again, I am fascinated by what we're living in. I know. Did you guys see the Diddy? Dan, you watched the Diddy documentary, right? I did. You remember that moment when Diddy's standing at the window and he's on speakerphone? And he's talking to, I think he's talking to his lawyers.

And he's like, you're not winning. You're not winning Instagram. You're not winning TikTok. And I'm sure the lawyer is like, I'm trying to win a legal case. And neither of them are wrong. Like, Diddy is not wrong because he's trying to influence the public, which as we have talked about on this show, when we had a long interview with, what's her name? The lawyer, it's now on Fox a lot. She's good.

She represented Weinstein. Yeah, she's starting a podcast. He's her first. Routunio. What is it, Scott? I think it's Donna Routunio. Donna Routuno. Yeah.

Yeah. You're using social media to basically, this is a negative word, but to poison the jury pool. You're influencing a jury pool ahead of time. So Diddy's not wrong? Like, so what I'm fascinated by is like there's reality. There's a thing that happens. And then there's the way that reality is characterized largely on social media. And that becomes the PR battle. And I'm just so fascinated by, first of all, an hour long show. I play the incident multiple times in the video, but I didn't play it in that social media clip. at that very moment and your crowd, the Brooklyn brunch crew, thinks I'm evading in a liar. And then... Here's the video right now. And then... Right.

You're not going to do that. Which, by the way, I don't know if my producers could have pulled it up at that very moment if I had said so, but they might have been able to. But I have nine minutes with you. And we've got to get a lot out here.

And if we want a Zepruder film this video together, we can do that, but that's the entirety of this interview now. and maybe that's worthwhile. Maybe it's worthwhile Zepruder filming that or Zepruder film analysis of that video with somebody like Moulton. But the problem is Moulton isn't going to have an honest conversation with me. First, let me say this because if this ever gets back to Moulton, I almost like I'm directly speaking to him now. And we said it at the end.

I appreciated the exchange. And I mean that genuinely. It needs to continue to happen. if not with him with others. There is a Democrat congressman who was booked today to be on the Will Kane show. He has mysteriously gotten sick within the last hour. I have a feeling it has to do with the fact that this winning the internet thing, well, it's now me who's winning the internet on Moulton.

I know that there was an attempt, but the tide has definitely turned. And this isn't it like this is, I hate that we're talking about this like this, but this is my larger point. This is what happens. Reality gets cut. gets framed, reality gets spun, and that's happening with the video of this actual incident in Minneapolis, and then opinions are formed. And those opinions are totally divorced from facts and context and reality. And that happens every time we have one of these conversations with

one of these Democrats, largely. Although we've had some tense ones with some Republicans as well, but the Democrat, because the world is divided into sides, what happens is their side finds their 20 seconds. And then in that 20 seconds, they say, this is what happened. And we had a 10-minute, nine-minute conversation, which ended well. And he said the same thing. He said, I do too appreciate the conversation. And he's always welcome back.

And I don't want it to always be antagonistic. I truly don't. There's a segment. When I do this, I want you know, I'm going to do this because that's driven by me. This is what I get. I will say yesterday was probably 70% positive. 10% is negative from the left. And that's largely off of the social media characterizations of it.

10% is my audience that says, what a waste of time. Why do you even do this? Right. This is ridiculous. And to those people, I have two responses. one, because I think it is instructive and shining light on things for you to see a point of view and to see it challenged. For example, the day that Jacob Fry was on after the shooting, and he said, ICE get the F out of Minnesota. It wasn't during my show, right? It was live.

I saw somebody tweet to me, shame on Fox News for showing this. And I'm like, I think we should show this over and over and over and over again. in because you have to see what exists. You have to see the world. It's the only way to do this. You have to see it. My other real quick point, Dan, to those people that say this is a waste of time. I appreciate, meaning that I understand those people that go, man, there's people talking over

each other and it's tense and I don't like the emotional feeling of tension. And I get that. And that might just not be your cup of tea for that seven minutes. and I understand that. And real quick, Dan, the last 10% is, I guess, people who think I got my ass kicked from the right, not from the left. And those people always say the same thing that I get my ass kicked because I let them talk. Like they want me to not let the other side ever talk. And yesterday was me at my most interruptee, which I don't love.

And yet still I was told I get my ass kicked. because you let their lives run free and you let them talk. So that's how kind of the calculus of the breakdown is that comes back to me. Go ahead, Dan. No, and people say they don't like debate, like seeing that, like our fans and people that watch the show. But they do because they talk about it more. The comments are insanely way more than any other types of videos. And the people that say they don't want to, like, put these people on TV and have you talk to

them. It's because I feel like sometimes they feel like it challenges their viewpoint, but it really should solidify their viewpoint. It really should exactly what you said, you should have these conversations and give time to these things because it, you know, it makes them look, you know, awful. Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Cain Country. Welcome back to Wilcane Country. Here's two unfiltered, unfettered opinions on this situation. One, I've said this before, but I don't know if this ICE agent exercised perfect judgment. I don't feel completely qualified to answer that question because I've never put myself in those split-second decision-making moments in war or in law enforcement. But I don't know.

I can't say he exercised perfect judgment. And he will have to reconcile that with himself when he goes to bed at night. What I feel very strongly about is he will not be and should not be. reconciling that with himself in bed in a jail cell. Nothing about what he did is criminal, much less murder. He has immunity for one. But two, this is a very gray moment where I think it is reasonable. That's the standard.

It is reasonable for him to assume his life is in danger in that moment. Was he right? Right and reasonable are not the same thing. You can be reasonable in getting things slightly off. But in no way is this. this man, even beyond immunity, guilty, criminally, of anything here. But if I'm apportioning blame, his is the small piece of the pie. Hers is much larger for putting herself in that position, which she willingly did so.

Patrick wanted to do a fact and fiction today, like, who is she? Because she's being described as a mom on her way to, like, dropping her kids off at school. No, she wasn't with her kids. She left her kids to participate in a protest. She had been radicalized. She, like, moved to Canada, reportedly after the, the election. election. Her husband had died, and she had taken up with a partner, and the partner was incredibly involved. They were a woman. They were both very involved in like this ice tracking or

ice whatever. And she drove what appears to be the wrong way down a one-way street leading a protest into a ICE law enforcement action and put herself in that position. And she has to be responsible for the choices that she made. She also made the choice to like run from ice. I mean, have any of the three of us ever run from law enforcement? Like gassed it trying to get away from law enforcement? That's not a choice you make responsibly. So a series of choices put her in this tragic position. And then there's a huge chunk of the pie that I put onto the politicians who have called ICE Gestapo like Governor Walts,

who have called ICE mass kidnappers, who have psychotically or created this psychosis in people's minds that they see themselves in this like real world melodrama. And that's where you get to Moulton and guys saying murder. And I think they, honestly, that's why they should be on my show. That's why they need to be challenged on what I think is incredibly dangerous rhetoric that has resulted in. We've seen the attacks on ice skyrocket. We saw the assassination attempt in Dallas. And you see this tragedy unfold in Minneapolis. I'm seeing a lot of shoot the tires comments.

You know, you should have shot the tires. I know. It's wild. Shoot them in the leg. Yeah. Shoot the top. I know. I mean, it's tough to, you know, poke fun out. But like, yeah, it's, it's, it's complete, no one knows, unless you've been in that situation, what you would have done or what you should do. I understand you've also got another angle of this field. Speaking of playing the video, is there a new angle from CNN? I see you have that, Dan.

Yeah. As the vehicle passes, you can see the dark colored SUV driven by Renee Nicole Good. That's on the right there in the back. The surveillance video taken by a home nearby. agents can be seen milling about near the vehicle, then converging on it. And then you see right there the SUV begins to move, and that's when the shots are fired. Here's slow motion of it you can see without audio. I mean, you can see the agent in front of the vehicle. Yeah. He's in front of the light right there. You can see.

And by the way, the bullet goes through the windshield. Yeah. I mean, obvious evidence he was in front of the vehicle. Everyone has an opinion, though. Timpool, I know. Timpool did a slow motion breakdown of this saying, you know, her wheels were turned into him, actually, when she started to go. I don't know. I can't get inside her mind.

Was she trying to run him over? Was she? Did she? I think there's a very reasonable thing that she may not even look forward because there was an ice agent at her window, you know, with his hands, like inside the vehicle. She may have been focused completely on him. and gassing it to get away from him, not knowing there was somebody in front of her. I don't know.

I don't know any of this. The other agent was to the side. The agent who had on front was originally to the side. And then when she reversed, he became, went, it went in front. It was just seconds. So she might not have even seen him initially. Not just that, Patrick.

Not just when she reversed, did she put him in her view, in her line of driving. He was to the, to your point, he was to the right fender. He was to the right side of her car. She puts it in reverse, putting her more in line with him, and then she turns her wheels in that direction, because he

ends up at the left fender. Do you know what I mean? At the left side headlight. Right. Yeah. You see. It's sad. Honestly, it is sad all around.

I mean, my biggest condemnation is for the politicians that have, I think, created this situation. There's a statement out today because another shooting happened in Portland. And the mayor of Portland, or was it the governor of Oregon, said she blames this on Donald Trump and is increasing lawlessness and recklessness that is creating the situations. And I just don't, like, it's the total reverse of reality. Like, we have the laws. And they've been voted on by the people. The people have voted these laws into place, like to deport illegal immigrants. That is a law on the books.

You create a city where you don't enforce that law. You create a sanctuary city. That is lawlessness. Now law enforcement comes in to enforce the law and you call any confrontation with them then reckless and lawlessness on their behalf. And explain how that works to me. You create lawlessness. And then when law enforcement comes in to enforce law, democratically elected, you call that lawlessness. None of that makes any sense.

All right. What else you guys got for me today? So this kind of started last year a little bit, but it's really picked up steam. And Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, he's gotten many different jobs from the president. Will you have the pictures? Yeah. So, and Meadow Shadow on X is now starting to collect them as a series. And some of them include, we'll put it, wait until it goes up, but Secretary Rubio as a sailor, as Remain-Packers quarterback.

This is a different one. It's your other ones. Anyway. Marco Rubio finds out he's the new offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions. It's all these pictures. He's got a headset on. Marco Rubio learning he's been put in command of Beger sector. Is that a Star Trek?

That's a Star Trek. Star Trek looking uniform. Where else you got? Oh, here we go. This is the initial one I was talking about. He's seen he going to. Yeah, he's in a sailor uniform. He's Green Bay Packers quarterback.

He's a Viking. President of Venezuela He's Napoleon I don't know Is that one of them Yeah that's Maduro's outfit The Pope Wow

What makes this is Marco Rubio's face And all of them I know He's sort of like It's what is the How would you describe his face He's kind of droopy-faced In it's tight

He looks tired Sullen Yeah He's like Not again A thousand yards stare He looks like he's been through it For sure

And Marco Rubio himself weighed in on this saying despite reports he is not a candidate for head coach of the Miami Dolphins. Oh, darn. What is he right now? He's Secretary of State. He's National Security Advisor. He's got three or four other jobs as well. Is it just like we can't find someone worth it to do it? So we'll just give it to Marco Rubio.

The president did the same thing with our good friend Sean Duffy. Like Duffy is TSA, head of TSA, but also. also, or not TSA, he's head of transportation, but also NASA, right? I guess that's sort of transportation, just off the planet. Yeah, I mean, maybe the president just trusts certain people enough. Well, yeah. I mean, I like that from a management perspective. I don't know if Marco got a pay bump.

Does Marco get the salary of Secretary of State and National Security Advisors? It's a great question. That's a great question. Or are we saving money? Mr. President is a race question. National archivist too. Oh, wow. National Archives. Well, Marco, you're going to have to take on some extra responsibilities, okay?

That's a good question. I should have asked Duffy that. Did you get the NASA salary for the period of time you oversaw NASA in addition to DOT? I would hope they would say no because I would love to save money as a taxpayer. I'll bet it's a no. That's my bet. I'll bet it's a no. I mean, Patrick works like 18 jobs.

Secretary of State makes. I'll bet Secretary of State makes $300,000. Don't you think? So that's probably about right? I think the President's 400 and something thousand. So I bet Secretary of State's like 300,000. National Security Advisor, I'm going to put it, 250? Secretary of State's 250?

Okay. What's National Security Advisor? Let's see. Oh, it's a range. You can be in that range? No, no, no, $250,600. Oh. It's very specific.

You know, it's interesting because I just saw... National security widely varies around 73,000 at the NSA to over 195,000 for high-level White House staff. Okay, well, he's high-level White House staff. So 250 plus 200, is he making 450 doing both those jobs? Let's see. And then add the other jobs he's got as well? I doubt they'll have his actual salary. Here, I'm going to text Duffy while you're doing that.

I'm going to ask him, did you get the... It says he only has the one salary. Oh, that's a shame. But he's making more than he did as a U.S. senator. So that leads me. So I saw this on the internet, and somebody was talking about, I think the president makes, what, $400,000 a year?

And that goes back to, like, George Washington. And they were saying that, when George Washington made that, that was like 8% of the federal budget. And so if you think about like what is 8% of the federal budget now? I mean, like Trump should be making, you know, Bucco bucks. But like we're still paying $400,000. Are you looking that up, Dan? Yeah.

What is 8% of the U.S. right now? Budget. Hold on. Keep talking. I'll figure this out. Okay. I just texted Duffy as well. We'll see if we hear back in the course of this show.

Here's the topic I want to talk about. It's not on you guys's list. This is really fascinating to me. Now, you just brought up Marco Rubio head coach Miami Dolphins. Well, actually, I have two things to talk about on this. Do you guys, are you guys not intrigued by the idea that, what is it, one quarter of the NFL right now is unemployed? One quarter of the NFL head coaching job vacancies are open. And I told you earlier this week that some organizations seem to be in a perpetual failure loop.

They're just bad organizations. And no matter who's there, the Raiders, the Browns, the Jets, they fail. And you know I'm sort of a Warren Buffett lover and the idea of value. And if everybody's looking left, take a look right. And the idea of like Sam Darnold, a quarterback on his second or third opportunity. And by the way, Sam Darnold's nailed it on his third and fourth opportunity, the Vikings and Seahawks.

He's been good. When you say the same thing for coaches, so at some point, if I'm one of the eight teams looking for coaches, I'm actually looking at the Browns. Specifically, I think I am looking at Kevin Stefanski, who was fired by the Browns. I'm not convinced he's not a good coach. Like, didn't he win coach at a year at one point while he was there? And the Jets didn't fire Aaron Glenn,

but I'm all of a sudden to assume Pete Carroll can't coach because he got fired by the Raiders. Now he's 73, and you have to ask yourself, as he want to keep doing it. And same thing with Mike McDaniel. The dolphins have not, been a successful organization for a while. And the sort of one man's trash is another man's treasure, and you find gold on the trash heap.

And second change is, I am not sitting here. You know, there's going to be a lot of people look in it, quote unquote, rising stars within successful organizations. The defensive coordinator at, or not the coordinator, but the even below the defensive coordinator at Denver and some of these other places. and setting aside John Harbaugh, I would give serious consideration to Stefansky. I would give serious consideration to Mike McDaniel. I think that these coaches, just like the quarterbacks,

cannot be judged fairly if they're in a failure environment. I completely agree with you. I think that, I mean, like, if you look at McDaniel, he took the dolphins who have not had a lot of success in the last 25 years to the playoffs twice with Tua, who's always injured. So, I mean, is he a bad coach? I don't think so. I would definitely take the risk.

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Welcome back to Will Kane Country. The other angle on this sports that I want to get to that I find fascinating is this. I don't know, I'm a bigger college football fan than you guys. I say that to state the obvious. with Dan and just to get under Patrick's skin. Hold on. So Dan, during break, he texts me and he says, what did you say? So I was talking about the coach of Notre Dame because he was looking at there, he was

got NFL offers. And it happened to be watching the NBA and I said, oh man, I really hope Marcus Smart doesn't go to the Giants. I'm like, you really got to, you really got to like. I like, get it together. I really hope Marcus Smart does not leave Notre Dame to coach the Giants. But in my defense, I was watching the NBA at the time. But yes, Marcus Freeman, I do know.

Marcus Smart. I can play point guard for the Giants. Yeah. So the transfer portal is going bananas right now. Bananas. This is different than past years. And what's happening, and I see it through the lens of Texas. So at first, I think the wheels are coming off.

the University of Texas. 21 guys are in the transfer portal. Now, I'm not talking about guys buried on the depth chart. These are guys that would be starting this year. They're not the big stars yet, but they could be, because a lot of them are like sophomores. Almost all of them are four and five star prospects. Some of them are freshmen, and they're going into the transfer portal. And you're like, why?

Like, does Texas not want to keep them? Do they not see they're going to get playing time? It's not about that anymore. It's not about playing time, and it's not about whether or not you're wanted at that program. What's happening is money and to a lesser extent opportunity, but I think money is the main thing. So agents are calling and representing these players, and they're saying, hey, you're going to get paid X at Texas, but I can get you Y at Indiana. And I think that's actually a fair one to use. And these guys are like, well, let me go back to Texas and see if they're going to pay me.

this. And Texas has to make a calculation. This guy's good, but he's not great. Not yet, at least. So I have to pay my great players, and Texas is they're not losing their great players. They're losing, not average players. They're not just losing guys who will never see the field. They're seeing guys who would be on the field who are legitimately good because those guys will get paid by other programs like they're great. Do you see what I'm saying? And so I'm, me and my buddies are all texting every day. Oh my God. Kobe Black's in the portal.

Oh my God. Jamie French is in the portal. On and on and on. And then I read this article. It was like, do you know Ohio State has like 22 dudes in the portal? And they've had zero guys come in yet transfers? Texas has five or six guys who've come in as transfers. Georgia, I think, has 15 in the portal.

You go across all the quote unquote blue bloods. And not to get into a blue blood debate. But what we're talking about is schools whose recruiting classes are always four. and five stars, top 10 recruiting classes. They're the ones getting pillaged. And schools like Indiana, who are full of three stars, are capable now one or two years in of going and taking those four or five stars who aren't in their freshman or sophomore year clearly great and pulling them away from the blue bloods. And I think it's really fascinating. Patrick talked about the difference between programs is depth.

Well, what's happening is that the Blue Bloods, their depth is getting eradicated. And you're going to have to make a calculation in college football now. Do you even waste time recruiting big-time high schoolers? And the answer is probably yes to some degree, but you're really recruiting the guys that you think will be studs and great almost immediately in the first year or two. Because you can't sell these guys on,

man, by the time you're a junior, you're going to be a full-time starter. By the time you're a junior or senior, you're going to be NFL level. They're not going to wait. And it's not because they're mad about sitting. It's because they want the money that they're going to get. And we're talking about serious money.

That's wild. Serious money. It's still wild. There's a lot of money. If you're great, I read that a starting quarterback right now is in the $4 million range. One of those top guys. Brendan Sorsby, Sam Levitt, $4 million a year for the top. five or six quarterbacks.

Some of them can go higher too. Depending. That's insane. Yeah. What was Bryce Underwood? A receiver. A receiver, right now, Cam Coleman is who everybody wants. He's like far and away the best player in the portal.

Texas is trying to get him. Two and a half million they're saying for Cam Coleman to come play receiver for one year. An offensive lineman, I know this, could be half a million to a million. A running back is about a million. Yeah. It's just pro sports now. Yeah. It is pro sports.

There's no difference. And Patrick and I are on the phone this morning. Here it is, though. It's pro sports without contracts. It's one year. Yeah. One year. They're going to have to make these guys sign two to...

Yeah. These guys have to... At some point, it's got to be a two to three-year contract thing. But interestingly, in the NFL, the contract benefits the team. A lot of guys. guys would like to go. I guess some guys want the guaranteed money and the injury risk prevention, but wouldn't you rather be in free agency? Will guys stay longer now, though, if they can make money? Or is it injury? They're worried about. I mean, for making a decent amount of money in college.

In college. Then go, then. Oh, they are still longer. Yeah, yeah. Carson Beck is a seven-year, seven-year college guy. Yeah. That's, but you could, but you could say is Carson Beck and NFL quarterback. Here's a better one. Texas has a left tackle, Trevor Goosby. He was projected to be a first or second round draft pick this year. He came back to Texas. So why would he do that? Because he's going to pay, he's going to get paid as much to play college football as he would in the NFL. Now, he could get a longer contract perhaps in the NFL. And these quarterbacks, here's another one, Ty Simpson. He's the quarterback at Alabama, right? Most mock drafts have Ty Simpson in the first round, but there is no guarantee he's coming out.

By the way, Quinnieuers looked pretty good for Miami. Yeah, he did. Well, Simpson will get paid. He'll get paid several million to play for Alabama. So you're going to see guys choosing college football over the NFL for a little while. It's fascinating. And it's going to add up to more parity. That's what it is.

And maybe that's a good thing. But if you're Kirby Smart, Steve Sarkeesian, Ryan Day, I do think you have to reevaluate. what is it I'm doing on the recruiting front? Because you could just become a poacher. That's what you could do. We're going to wait and we're going to pay big money once we know a guy is great. No more speculation. No more high schoolers.

This guy was great at Pick Your Program, Kentucky. So we're going to pay him now to come be great at Texas. What teams will do that are the best position to do that now? That version, just poaching? Yeah. Well, right now it's the, it's the mids who are eradicating the good players off of the great rosters. You see what I'm saying? I still know how you do that because you still have to fill in like special teams and things like that.

Like, you know, those great players aren't going to be like everything else in America, Patrick. It's going to be like everything else, no middle class. Yeah. There's going to be like, you know, great, a couple great players that get paid and then like these guys down here. The one percent in poverty. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

And then I guess you'll have a program like, I keep going back to Indiana, but Indiana's in a transition phase right now. Because they're getting, I read Indiana, Mark Cubans backing Indiana. So Indiana is going to be paying. They're going to Mark Cubans, that's what I read. That's so insane to me. Whatever your middle class program is, they'll be trying to get by a middle class talent. And they'll steal the middle class talent from the good programs. Even the upper middle class.

That's what's new, the upper middle class. Like those types? No, I think that's too. Too far? No. You go to the Vanderbilts, the Indiana's, the Ole Misses, the Power 4 programs that, yeah, probably at some point Purdue, that are never that great. They're the ones that I think now have the opportunity to take the leap up. True.

Miller just picked off Lagway. And then people love the story of Indiana. Yeah, Baylor just took Lagway from Florida. Then you take a program who isn't great and then you become great and then you're, you know, legend. All right. Anything else for us today, boys, before we get out of here? I got one last thing. I've been holding this for a couple days now. And this is a clip from Conan O'Brien talking about how comedians should be funny. Well, now a little bit you're being co-opted because you're so angry.

You've been lulled. It's like a siren leading you into the rocks. You've been lulled into just saying F Trump, F Trump, F Trump, screw this guy. you know, and I think you've now put down your best weapon, which is being funny, and you've exchanged it for anger. And that person or any person like that would say, well, things are too serious now. I don't need to be funny. And I think, well, if you're a comedian, you always need to be funny. You just have to find a way. And this is like before Kimmel did his little bit.

Oh, really? This week, this week. That's another clip. I think a day before, yeah. No, no. I mean, I think it came out a day or two before, or started going viral, like, before Kimmel did his thing. And it's like, yeah, he's talking about Trump derangement syndrome and how it just is completely... They have to be activists now.

Yeah, they're just all activists. It's over, funny is over. So you're talking about Kimmel holding up the T-shirt this week that said Donald Trump wants to kill you. Right. By the way, if a politician does something reckless, Jimmy Kimmel's intent on doing it more reckless. A politician calls ICE murder and Kimmel takes it all the way to Donald Trump wants to kill.

Under the guys of comedy, though. Donald Trump killed this. Right. Kimmel and Colbert are the best examples of this, don't you think? Kimmel and Colbert are the ones who've given up on being funny. Seth Myers, I watched recently,

and I was like, I can't watch this as just like a political activist show. Oh, really? Yeah. Which is a shame because he also does, he'll bring in like Tim Robinson and like, or he'll talk to different people, and he'll have funny segments, but then the rest of it's activism.

It's a real shame. I think a real fascinating thing will be how much of this is Trump derangement syndrome. Like how much of this will go away when we no longer have center stage Donald Trump? And I read this announcement of the day that the left is in a doom cycle, a closed feedback loop,

and that they are very, very much trapped in the information. And by the way, The right isn't absolved from this, but I do think the rights is a little more cordoned off into its own thing online. It doesn't, it's not driving mainstream Republican thought right now. And I'm sure someone in the left would disagree with me on that in some ways. But meaning they read these tweets, they read this feedback, they see the way it plays on social media, and then they reflect it. And it just continues to doom cycle down into the most radical version of themselves. And I saw this analysis, like how different Democrats are from JFK.

Like, it's shocking. Like, there is no doubt JFK would be a Republican. But they'll say you force them to be that way. Like, well, how? By, they say that, like, the rights gone so crazy that they have to be crazier. That's the, that's what they say. But I really, like, this is where I don't want to have the confrontational conversation with someone on the left. Like, Donald Trump, exempting his personality is moderate on almost every policy.

You cannot say Donald Trump is further right than George W. Bush. He's simply not immigration enforcement. I'll give you that, maybe. Immigration enforcement, that one issue. But otherwise, social issues, Donald Trump just talked about Republicans being more forgiving on the Hyde Amendment, which is something that funnels government dollars or keeps government dollars from going to abortion. Like, he just did that this week. foreign policy,

social issues, trade, less further right than the past half century. And so I think the left is in its own death spiral doom feedback loop in part because of Trump's personality, but I don't think that it goes away when Trump's personality isn't center stage. I mean, you know who's getting a lot of heat this week is J.D. Vance.

And I've seen people saying, on the left that he's worse than Donald Trump. Yes. He's just going to say that. He's worse. So they're going to do that. That's right. It's so.

They did it with evidence. This isn't ultimately going to, it's not going to be about Donald Trump. That's right. George Bush was Hitler. I remember specifically that word, that language. George W. Bush, Hitler.

Exactly. The brunch crew actually wanted me to tell you that they loved something Trump did actually recently. So this is just something to tell you. is it? Trump says U.S. to ban large investors from buying homes. So they love that Trump did that. Oh, they like that. Yeah.

I love that. So that's great. That's great. Institutional investors out of... I don't know if you can, by the way. Like, I don't know if you can actually do anything. It's got to probably be a congressional approved law. I did this on the Will Cane show. The thing is, the institutional investors, that's a very popular thing on the right. I guess also on the left there is they own like 1 to 2% of the total housing supply. But in some sunbelt markets like Dallas and Phoenix, maybe Atlanta, yes, Atlanta, it can go up to 10 to 25%.

It ruins communities. And when you talk about housing supply crunches, it is in those areas. But did you see what I did? I think there's another angle people aren't talking about. And that is the decline in marriage. Like that's eating up housing supply. The number of 40-year-olds who've never been married, the rate of marriage in America is so low. Literally, common sense.

you used to have two people under one roof. Now you have one. Well, now it's an apartment or a starter home. And starter homes are where most of the supply crunch is. But I'm just saying, like, housing is a supply demand issue, right? Oh, you mean the number of houses? Got it, got, got, got, got, yeah, yeah. There's more people demanding houses if they're not pairing up and getting into a house together because they're married.

That's not true. And illegal immigration. I was going to say that's why I'm pro. Yes. To take this full circle. Okay, very relaxed, conversational. Tell us what you think of this. This is a little bit, we did decide to do this way.

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