Will Cain Country - Senator Markwayne Mullin & Mark Lucas: Fact Checking The Media Lies About President-elect Trump Cabinet Nominees

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

Story #1: The Polymarket confirmation probabilities for Pete Hegseth, Kash Patel, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., and Tulsi Gabbard are now all over 70 percent. How will the rest of the confirmation process ...play out? Senator Markwayne Mullin (R-OK) joins the show to discuss. Story #2: Caitlin Clark bends the knee to the woke mob, forgetting that it is 2024 and not 2020. Will explains the race craziness being spread around by the Left. Story #3: Can Pete Hegseth run an organization? Afghan Veteran & Veterans Advocate Mark Lucas joins the show to go on the record about his experiences with Pete Hegseth at Concerned Veterans for America. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 For a limited time at McDonald's, enjoy the tasty breakfast trio. Your choice of chicken or sausage McMuffin or McGrittles with a hash brown and a small iced coffee for $5.5 plus tax. Available until 11 a.m. at participating McDonald's restaurants. Price excludes flavored iced coffee and delivery. 1.70%. Polymarket has the confirmation probability. of Pete Heggseth, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr. Cash Patel, somewhere in the neighborhood of 70%. As they walk the halls today at Capitol Hill, let's talk to one of the United States senators about where
Starting point is 00:00:46 they all stand, the picks or a cabinet of Donald Trump. Two, Caitlin Clark bends the knee to the woke. She says what must be said. She pays. her penance. Let's take a little trip around the sun, take a little stroll through hypocrisy. We'll wind our way through, I don't know, Cash Patel, Jay Batatariah, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK, and the potential murder in New York City that will tell us it's not just hypocrisy, but it's violence and Marxism. Three, can Pete Heggseth run an organization? We talk to someone on the record about his experience at Concerned Veterans for America. It is the Will Cain show streaming live.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern time. Terrestrial radio stations across to this great United States of America, but always available by subscribing on Apple or on Spotify. We welcome you in. We welcome you in to the Willis show. What's up, fellas? Tinfoil Pat, Young Establishment, James, two a days, Dan.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I don't know if you guys in New York saw this. This is a pretty fascinating potentiality. As we talk about the ways that could change here in America, excitement in the air, Donald Trump tweeted out the following. Just yesterday, he said, America's going to start building monuments to our great heroes and heroines. Again, signed DJT. Pretty exciting proposition. The idea that after, you know, some time living through cancel culture and taking down much of America's history, or at least its statues and physical manifestations of honoring our history, we're ready to build it back, baby. We're ready to go back to celebrating America. And it got us wondering, got me wondering, where should we start? What should we build monuments? toward i actually um you guys sent me some suggestions and i thought this was pretty fascinating this is a a thread i don't really know who this person is but earth emperor has some
Starting point is 00:03:11 fascinating suggestions here about what we should build monuments to or even past projects that we should pick up that that were never quite uh facilitated look at some of these projects you've got uh the ulysses s grant bridge which would be by the lincoln memorial It's a beautiful looking bridge as it's rendered here. I absolutely think that would be an awesome memorial to rebuild. I don't know anything about traffic in Washington, D.C., but I like the way it looks. And I want grand things. I want grand things in America.
Starting point is 00:03:49 How about a lifelike statue of George Washington standing by the Washington Monument? This has also been rendered at some. Wow. That's awesome. I guess at one point in time. that's pretty epic was can you just imagine going from very fine people um you know conversation which was whether or not we would move on from you know confederate statues to taking down statues of thomas jefferson and george washington to building this i don't know 100 foot
Starting point is 00:04:18 tall statue of george washington america is back i like this i never heard of this the mother's memorial honoring women's key role on earth and society check this thing out this is this is something look at this the stairs that you would climb to reach this monument honoring mothers if you're listening on radio or on spotify or apple i mean this is this is very like greco roman architecture and a lot of this is you know it's getting away from soviet block loss of personality 1950 60 70s american architecture i'm always a big fan of art deco by the way i think it's quintessentially american so anything that we do a little bit like rockefeller center in new york city that just feels american but this mother's memorial i like the
Starting point is 00:05:09 i like what it looks like and i also like the idea and then finally how about the national galleries of art and history a mile long chronological permanent and extensive account of all of human history culminating in the future and this was something that was uh presented i guess by franklin web Mr. Smith in 1900. Can you imagine in 1900, though, where the last wing of that museum might have ended with the future? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Oh, my God. We don't build grand things anymore like that. They were probably already considering flying cars. Yeah. But they didn't have any. There's no way that it had anything to do with streaming a show at 12 o'clock Eastern Time, Fox News, YouTube channel over the something called the Internet.
Starting point is 00:05:52 And on your phone, that has a touchscreen that's in your hand. Bing. Correct. well um i like this idea i like bringing some this in some other people had some other ideas uh for for monuments um this was submitted by a guy goes under the handle just that guy president trump i would suggest two heroes are needed as monuments in state capitals across the united states there's a gorilla statue rip harrombay and a squirrel statue rest in peace peanut can i just say fellas this is concerning to me on several levels
Starting point is 00:06:27 I don't and I don't know why the raccoon has been left out of the story of peanut Frank there were two pets there were two pets there and see that's the thing James I don't even know was he Frank or was he Fred and that just shows it was Frank Frank the raccoon very important
Starting point is 00:06:42 it's Frank thank you I need to do him the honor of at least getting his name right it's Frank okay so how can we forget Frank if we're going to be building monuments to Harambe and Peanut But we might as well remember Frank in a tweet. It's a huge oversight.
Starting point is 00:07:02 It's not good for search optimization. Maybe we'll add those guys to the rebuilding of monuments across America. All right, we have a big show for you today. A little bit later in the show, we're going to be joined by someone who worked with Pete Hegseth at Concerned Veterans for America. One of the accusations against my former co-host is he has no ability to run an organization and did so. poorly at CVA. Well, how about the guy that inherited the organization from Pete Heggseth on the record testimony today? Yesterday we had on the record testimony about his leadership in battle on in the field of war. Now we're going to get it into running an organization. But I want you
Starting point is 00:07:39 stick around as well because I'm going to be talking to you about Caitlin Clark, who has single handlingly lifted the ratings of the WNBA. But she was vilified because she wouldn't been the knee to, um, the throne of wokeism. She wouldn't give credit to the women who built the WNB she wouldn't pay fealty to black women well now she's been named i believe it's one of the time magazines like people of the year but this time she did what she was supposed to do she bends finally to the woke mob and i think it leads to a fascinating conversation that we have to walk through on what's required of you in society um to walk through a level of unsustainable hypocrisy and actually an unbelievable level of hypocrisy from kately clark to congressman jemal bowman
Starting point is 00:08:23 to Luigi Mangione in New York City, to the treatment of Tulsi Gabbard or RFK Jr. It's such an unbelievable amount of hypocrisy that the only place you will ever be able to land in the end that is a true embrace of violence under the banner of Marxism. We're going to get into all of that here today on the Wilcane show.
Starting point is 00:08:42 But let us start with story number one. He is a senator from the great state of Oklahoma. It requires me against all my native instincts to call it the great state of Oklahoma, but courtesy, friendship, and neighborliness requires me to call it the great state of Oklahoma from just south of the Red River.
Starting point is 00:09:08 It's Senator Mark Wayne Mullen here on the Will Cane Show. What's up, Senator? Hey, brother. I just want to join this fight about Peanut and Frank the Raccoon too. Frank the Raccoon doesn't, it's not a cool name. It needs to be like Bandit. I mean, Peanut's a cool name. that speaks, right? It speaks to score. If you have something that's catchy, like Bandit,
Starting point is 00:09:26 the Raccoon, they go together, because it's not even less of a story. It's just not, I mean, it's like Abe. Abraham Lincoln, or Abe Lincoln, it has a little bit more grandiose for it, I guess. It rolls off your tongue better. I'm just saying, I think they messed up on the name. Did this go into the calculation of being Mark Wayne Mullen? I think we've discussed this, how you became a it's a cool name is it a three name guy is it a double first name but you know you've managed to give yourself a handle that is memorable with mark wayne mullin 100% yeah i mean mark way just like rolls right off your time that's why so many kids are named after me um are there any great south eastern or eastern oklahoma uh heroes that we're going to need
Starting point is 00:10:13 to put on the list uh hopefully they have good handles they do i've got a couple nominees i mean You're Eastern Oklahoma heroes that need monuments built to them. How about Bell Star? The problem is most of them are outlaws. But, you know, or how about we've got guys that brought the outlaws to bear as well. We've got Bass Reeves. I mean, I think he counts as an Eastern Oklahoma hero. Bass Reeves is well known.
Starting point is 00:10:35 You can build a monument to Bass Reeves. There's an outlaw named Christy, Ned Christie, and Zeke Proctor. You've got to look those two up. There's towns named after them. I live right there. They were, there's a lot of stories about that, that there was actually a treaty between, I don't know if it was Ned or Zeke, that there was a treaty that was signed before we could actually become a state because they were still outlaws. And the irony of that is my great, great grandfather ran around with them. So, you know, but I really, I mean, if you're going to think about monuments, it should be, maybe we start looking at modern day monuments too. I mean, listen, I, and I'm kind of unique here. And my, my mom calls me baby boy. Maybe we have a baby boy. Maybe we have a baby. boy monument. I mean, I don't. I'm just, just, he nominates himself. I mean, the statues, so I make, I make this comment to my, to my state legislators because, right, each state gets, gets two statues in
Starting point is 00:11:28 the nation's capital. But the state legislators are the ones that, that pick the statues, right? Not, not us. Our state legislators do that. And they can change them out as often as they want to. Well, Oklahoma has Will Rogers and Sequoia. And I point out to our state legislators every year when I give a capital tour i was like me guys i'm just i'm just making this point right what is will rogers and sequoia have in common they're both Cherokee and they're from northeast oklahoma i'm cherokee and i'm from northeast oklahoma it only makes sense that i'd replace them one day so i can play man i i'm not my mom my wife's never going to build a hey man we if we've learned nothing you have to be your own champion you have to be your own champion uh
Starting point is 00:12:15 You know, it's actually a pretty good segue. I think there's been no better advocate on Capitol Hill for Pete Hegseth than Pete Hegseth. I will give some honorable mention to myself and to you, Senator Mullen. We both understand that this is a person who should be championed as Secretary of Defense. But Pete has done an incredible job walking the halls of the Senate, meeting with senators, and making his case. But I do want to give you credit. Obviously, I'm a supporter. I'm biased.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I own my bias with the audience, but I've also explained why I'm biased. But you were in pretty early on Pete Hegg-Seth, and I'd just like to know why. Why is that a position you felt important to take supporting Heg-Seth? You just go with, I didn't know Pete really outside of, I've been on a show a couple times. So I didn't have the privilege of getting to know him like you do, but I start looking at what we have right now. We have Secretary Austin, who was a general in the Army, and he's been an, absolute disaster. I mean, we have had issues every since he's been in office from the withdrawal from Afghanistan to what's happened in the Middle East. And you continue to the morale
Starting point is 00:13:26 issue we're having, to the DEI crap that he put in place, you know, to the, even the way he handled COVID when he got in. And now you're seeing recruiting numbers that they're not able to meet. And then they say, oh, yeah, we're able to meet them because they lowered the amount of people that they're trying to recruit is the only reason why they're able to meet them now. And I thought, here you have Pete, the guy knows how to articulate a message. He can get people's attention because he is, I mean, I'm not into him, but he is somewhat attractive of a guy. So he draws an audience, which is important, Will, which is why, you know, they have you
Starting point is 00:14:02 on, you know, the internet, rather than national TV. I'm just saying. And I'm being mean there, by the way, if you're catching it. but you but he's and then you have a guy that served 20 years in the service he's a combat veteran uh he's he's decorative two bronze stars the guy has lived a life he's fought his demons and now he's successful in his in his marriage and successful in life as a whole who you tell me who's going to be able to relate best secretary austin or pete when you start thinking about the guys that's going to respect you. The guys that are going to respect us to keep
Starting point is 00:14:43 us safe every day are not the guys in the Pentagon, they're the guys downrange. The shooters have been forgotten about. The guys that are demonized sometimes when they have to make a split decision in a middle of combat, the guys that they have attorneys that have to deploy with them so they can explain the situation that they were in. The guys that are having a second guess or movement yet we expect them to go out and fight or fights for us, Pete gets it and he'll put the warfighter first. And for a guy who's been downrange, a guy who's understood that, who's worked beside these guys before and a past life, as soon as I saw Pete getting there, who's going to be a complete different approach, I was like, yes, thank God, let's go.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And then the one I got to get, when I had the opportunity to get to know him, and we sat down and talk, we talk like old-time friends. He's relatable. He's somebody that you enjoy being with. And he's extremely passionate. And you can't get a better hunter. What I mean is, you know, the dog hunts, that's the terminology we use in Oklahoma. You can't get another better person than someone that's bred for it. And he knows it.
Starting point is 00:15:56 He's been on both sides of it now. And I was, as I'm telling you, I was all in from the get-go. And the more they go after him, the more I just walk into the fight with him. because I think they're afraid of him. And that's why they're trying to bring him down. It surprises me none at all, Senator, that you and he would find each other relatable, knowing both of you to some extent
Starting point is 00:16:20 that you guys would find some spirit of commonality. By the way, I just saw this. I'm not, this is, I think it's fair to say you and I've hit it off, having never met in person. But I just saw this comment come in. Mango Kennedy says, I'm watching live for the first time. I love Pete, but Will Kane looks like a liberal to me. Ha ha, sorry, Will, I love you.
Starting point is 00:16:41 You do a good job. I do understand. The funny thing about it is, that's not the first time I've experienced that kind of comment. I don't know what liberal look I give off, but I'll acknowledge I don't have a Mark Wayne Mullen beard or a Pete Hegseth red, white, and blue jacket liner. But I think I can relate to Senator and Hegseth, even if I look like a lib. Yeah, it's the plage shirt. shirt and the perfect hair. I mean, I guess that's just what it's, what, what it is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I'm not disagreeing with the person at all, but I know you better than that, but I mean, I just don't disagree with the same. That's the flat shirt. I'm going to get my starched white, you know, button down on my big belt buckle, which I do wear on occasion. There you go. But I bet you were pointed. I want to go back to Hegseth in the confirmation process. I appreciate what you have to say. As I was saying, it doesn't surprise me, you two would find each other. whether you'd be able to relate. I am a little, there is an element of surprise with you in that, you know, I think it's fair to characterize you as a bit more hawkish than maybe even I have been, and you and I've had a few conversations. I wouldn't characterize them as debates, but we've had
Starting point is 00:17:47 a exchange of ideas, for example, when it comes to Ukraine. Now, Pete's pretty hawkish, and he goes back and forth, but I think he's very prudent on the use of military force from the American military. But the point is, you could have gone into that with a great amount of skepticism, but you didn't. what you did was you were ultimately won over by Heggsette. Do you think your colleagues are being one over, even the holdouts, people like Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa? Yeah, Johnny, Johnny's moving, but I give Joni some credit here. You've got to understand sexual assault, why this isn't, you know, Pete was falsely accused of it, and it was clear who the aggressor was if you read the report. I mean, if you read the report, just yourself, without even talking to Pete, you just read the
Starting point is 00:18:33 report, it's very clear what took place and why the police did not pursue it other than just the initial report. But you got to look at Joni. Joni is a victim of sexual assault. She's always taken that as a point of interest in every confirmation hearing I have been with her in. She's always brought this up as a concern of something that is passionate about her. I don't think for a second that she's not going to get to yes on Pete. I believe Pete is going to be confirmed. He's going to be our next sec deaf. But you've got to give Joni the respect to go through the process. Remember, not single person has said no to Pete, not a single Republican, I mean, no one's no. He's doing exactly what he has to do by taking the fight to each office. It's not about putting
Starting point is 00:19:26 yeses on the board. It's about keeping the nose off the board. And those are difficult because the yes are the easiest meetings. The noes are the ones that are tough. And that's where he's spending all this time. He's already had two meetings with Joni. And Johnny's never been a no, but she's expressed concerns. He is here in the walls every single day. And his poor wife, who is just beautiful and standing beside each day. She's walking with him, which I think is a brilliant move because she's in those meetings. She's hearing the tough conversations. Pete will be the first want to tell you that he you know he wasn't the the greatest guy in the past but he is who he is today and you got to take that we've all got a past all of us has got a pass the first person who wants
Starting point is 00:20:09 to cast that first stone is like jesus writing in the sand you know cast the first stone and who knows what he wrote but i know everybody walked away or the one that's pointing out the the the the the speck and someone's eye when you got the plant can hanging out of your eye right so people are kind of hypocritical and start bringing up his past because the past is who we are but also makes us who we are today too because if we learn from it which he's omitted about some of that stuff it makes you stronger for who he is today so when he sat down and talked to him he's open he's a 100% open book and by not running from that but understanding and explaining where he was at he's won over a hearts of the senate one at a time and you cannot express that enough not talking about
Starting point is 00:20:54 our differences in some of the decisions that we made from Ukraine or some other stuff you're only you only get the knowledge that you're privy to if you're wanting to dig in there's only so much information that you're able to get when you get in certain positions like jd or even Tulsi Gabbard or even Pete is going to be in when you start getting some different reports that unfortunately republic or the not the republic but the public doesn't get and you're starting to see some of the much bigger picture because you're starting to get classified stuff that's coming out at T.S. and above levels
Starting point is 00:21:32 and you're daily getting the briefings on it and you're understanding every aspect of it, not just what you're seeing play out in the public. Your perception changes and you're making those decisions at that point. I will guarantee you when Pete gets in and he's getting those briefings on a daily basis, him and I are going to line up on the decisions because we're going to come from a same point of view.
Starting point is 00:22:00 And I'm not, I'm not, I'll be the one. Learned about it. And I would be willing to say, too, well, I'll be the one. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. I was going to say, I'd be willing to say if, if I could share with you the classified information that I have to deal with
Starting point is 00:22:16 on a daily basis, knowing you, you would set out and you'd read it and you'd come to probably somewhat of a different conclusion now that doesn't mean that we're going to go out at the same direction but i guarantee we'd want the same result the decisions there's a lot of decisions of which way you can go but the end result is what we're looking for and that's where we're going to be lined up on uh Pete and I will be lined up on the same end result too at the end of the day we may have some different decisions because we will look at it will process the information different but either way, hopefully it doesn't come to that because I believe what Trump is going to, what he said
Starting point is 00:22:52 he's going to do. He's going to bring an end of that war because he has a leverage point from both perspectives. He can leverage Ukraine and we can leverage Russia from a point of strength. The Biden administration could never do that. So negotiations and what we do moving forward looks drastically different from my decision perspective come January 20th. Well, I appreciate what you had to say, not just about Pete Hegseth, not just about my plaid shirt, but also about what I would know if I were involved in some more classified briefings. What I'll make this promise to you and everybody watching as well is that even though I like you and obviously I like Pete a lot, I'll hold you guys accountable where I disagree, but I'll also be
Starting point is 00:23:35 some place that I'm open to hearing what I'm wrong once we get to that point and it'll be always a venue for you or Pete or anyone else to tell me where you think I've gotten it wrong. you bring up some other people that I really do want to ask you about though you brought up Tulsi I want to ask you in particular senator about Tulsi where you will be on her but then I also want to ask you more broadly when it comes to Tulsi and RFK and Cash Patel maybe those three in particular are you confident that like Pete Heggseth they will receive consent advisement and consent to confirmation for Donald Trump's cabinet I do I think everybody that we've got right now, unless some October surprise, I'm using a political term, comes out on them, I believe everybody we have right now that's been nominated by the president will get confirmed. I feel that confident.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Tulsi is an extremely close friend of mine. In fact, she'll call you or she'll call me our brother and I call her my sister. We have been extremely close. Our family is very close. She's close with my wife. There we go. Her husband, Abraham, was actually at their way. wedding. My wife and I in a whole slew of us was at her wedding in Hawaii. I mean, her sister and brother-in-law are the greatest people in the world, their former U.S. Marshalls. Well, can I just interrupt you for just one moment? I did know that about your personal relationship with Tulsi Gabbard. And one of the reasons I was curious about your perspective on Tulsi then, and I think this only makes me more curious, is the here we have the Intel officials, you know, running out information concerned about her being a Russian asset or whatever it may be. It's curious, you know, when it
Starting point is 00:25:14 comes to Intel officials. I also heard 51 Intel officials tell me that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. So trust me, I give it the amount of credibility that it serves as a paperweight. But, you know, again, I didn't know your personal relationship, so I was curious about which way you would go. And so now I'm curious, what do you have to say about all those people lining up in that way against Tulsi? I get that asked that question every day, multiple days in the hall about her being a Russian asset. And what I remind people, I was like, okay, she went to Syria in 2017. She was a captain in the National Guard. She's now a lieutenant colonel in the United States Army. She's over the reserve unit of Oklahoma and Missouri. I'm pretty sure if she was a Russian
Starting point is 00:25:54 asset, she would have never been promoted and still wouldn't be able to be in the United States Army. So you're telling me that they haven't done a background check on her. You're telling me that she's good enough to be a lieutenant colonel and be up for a colonel. I mean, she probably won't now, but she was on her path to make 06. and now you want to come out and say she's a Russian asset, give me a break. That doesn't fly. There's nothing about that that makes sense. And I'll tell you, the idea of her being the director of DNI, when we were first discussing this among the team and among her, I was so excited because DNI is such a, they have become the largest bureaucracy.
Starting point is 00:26:42 that's where all intel goes to die. Now, remember when it was first stood up, that was after 9-11, a lot of people don't realize this, that Director of National Intelligence was stood up after 9-11 because each agency from, let's just use, there's 17 plus different affluent agencies, but let's just say the two that people know is the CIA and the FBI. They were so siloed that every one of them had information on what Ben Laden was doing, but they weren't sharing. So D&I was stood up to that the intel is supposed to flow through them and make sure it mashes up so the President of the United States and Congress gets a full picture.
Starting point is 00:27:22 What's happened with D&I is that's where everything goes to die and all gets redacted. And since then, Congress never gets actually an intelligence briefing. You have to go read it, but you'll never get a briefing. Everything we get briefed on is actually already out in the public. And Director Haynes has done a horrible job being there. Two things that need to happen. Either D&I needs to be completely reformed or they need to be dissolved. And Tulsa is a no-nonsense, non-emotional individual will just do what needs to be done to get the job right
Starting point is 00:27:55 because she loves America individual and she will do it. And so when the conversation first started for her to be director over at D&I, I was like both hands, heck yeah, she's a person we need to clean that agency up. all right i want to be so respectful for your time you have to be somewhere at 1230 eastern time you can get up from your chair and walk away from your camera and that's how we do on the will can yeah i can spread 10 minutes if you need you too i can push everything you need me to oh i'm i'm grateful to hear that uh so but i i i will so okay then let me just fit in one extra one do you feel like r fk will get confirmation as well again there's 53 republican senators
Starting point is 00:28:35 so the truth is donald trump could have the cabinet that he wants to you as long as Republicans confirm his nominees. Will that, will he, for example, will RFK get 53 senators, Republicans? You know, I don't, a lot of these are going to get 53. There's going to be some of them that won't get 53 and just the politics behind this. Okay, Susan Collins, it gets, she's from a very tough state. Trump has no chance to win Maine, but she's able to carry it. we're never going to get another Republican elected from Maine.
Starting point is 00:29:09 And regardless of what Susan Collins, a lot of listeners think about Susan Collins, she still votes with us 80 to 85% of the time, where a Democrat's going to vote against us 100% of the time. So you've got to take your wins and loses there. She may have to vote different on some of these nominees, but that's okay because she's got to also represent her state to some degree. I'm not saying that's going to happen with Bobby. Bobby is someone that I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Tulsi and Bobby became pretty good friends. When I was asked to start traveling, Tulsi and I were traveling together. Bobby started traveling with us. Then we started working with the president and being his motorcade, and I spent a lot of time with Bobby. First of all, Bobby's a brilliant individual. And his stance on vaccinations and on the food and his whole pledge about making American healthy again, that comes from a very personal perspective of his.
Starting point is 00:30:03 and he has the data and the knowledge to back it up and you should have him on your show sometime because he is the most interesting guy you'll talk to, but he's also extremely funny. I've never heard better Irish jokes from anybody than Bobby, and we spent hours together in the motorcade or on the plane, and I just got all the respect from him. He's going to do the same thing that Pete is doing the same thing, that Tulsi's doing the same thing that Cash is doing. He's going to bring that same personality, that same knowledge, that in depth, knowledge and be able to answer people's concerns as he walks into one office at a time
Starting point is 00:30:38 and he's going to walk out of there with their support because they're going to come to the same conclusion I have about all these norms. Keep in mind the President of the United States gave Congress, especially Republican Congress, meaning the House and Senate, to change the way government is working and get government working for them again, not for a party. He's putting those people in place that's going to change things. He's going, from the cabinet to the White House to the Senate, we have a mandate to change the direction of the country. And everybody he's got nominated is able to bring in those changes, which is why the establishment up here is pushing back so hard. Right. Yes. And you only get changed through disruptors. That's going to bring my final
Starting point is 00:31:23 question. We'll see, by the way, if any of these nominees lose Susan Collins, it'll be a real curiosity and whether or not they'll pick up, for example, John Fetterman to vote for some of Trump's nominees. You have said today, which I agree with, that Bobby Kennedy will do a great job as Pete Higgseth is doing a great job of walking these halls and taking these meetings and showing these senators who they are and winning them over. There is a bit of a bad cop to this as well in that there are a lot of people very upset, for example, Senator Joni Ernst, that she would take up this cause. I totally respect what you said. about her and sexual assault.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I hope that's not what's really driving. I mean, in the end, I hope that she wouldn't take the word of, you know, false reports or anonymous sources from NBC over character witnesses on the record. And what is clearly, as you pointed out, you know, investigated and cleared incident when it comes to Pete Heggseth. There are other people to suspect there were, at least, at one point, other motivations for Joni Ernst. I do believe you have said, Senator, you do not think she should be primaried.
Starting point is 00:32:27 That's the other side of this. that if she doesn't do this, she won't be a senator much beyond 2026. But I do want to ask you because I saw you say, I don't think that should be the political, you said, I believe, you don't think that should be the political price to pay right now for Joni Ernst. Yeah, I agree with that. Johnny is doing her due diligence. She's, she's, you know, everybody says obey the Constitution. You're sure to uphold the Constitution. Article 2, Section 2 is very clear that we have oversight here, right? I mean, we have, we have to, we have to, we have to consent and approve these individuals as they move forward.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And Joni is doing the oversight that she needs. Just because she hasn't came out, yes, it's not unusual for a lot of senators not to tell you their position. That is actually something that drives me nuts. I'm one of these people, you'll know where I stand, I promise you. I don't hide from that at all. And it causes RIF, but just because she hasn't came out and supported him doesn't mean he's not going to come support him.
Starting point is 00:33:24 And so people jump to conclusions because she's doing her do it diligence by asking the tough questions and Pete's doing his job by going and meeting with her doesn't mean that we need to be thinking about prime member of her. She is a good member of the Senate and she works with Republicans. You can look at her voting record. She's there with us. I don't know her voting record, but I say she's there with us 99% of the time, maybe 100% of the time. And so you've got to take everything in perspective. Sometimes we get so dug in as Republicans the first time you don't agree with us you're a rhino you're a sellout and we're going to primary you well we all make decisions differently if that was the case my wife would have divorced me a hundred times over
Starting point is 00:34:07 sometimes we come to conclusions of a different way and we need to be we need to look at the history of the back and look at things moving forward and not let's look at today and i think if you'll go and you'll look at joanie you'll understand she's a true blooded bleeds red patriot, Republican, and puts America first. And that's why I caution everybody to be cautious about moving forward. The ad that was ran against her, I disagree. Now, what she does moving forward, you're welcome to judge her on that. But just on this one case, make sure you look at what's backwards and then see what the final outcome is. I think she's yes on Pete at the end of the day. All right. We'll get to work. It shouldn't take longer. We'll probably carve it out of,
Starting point is 00:34:54 probably carve it out of wood, stick it in the forest, nobody will see it, but a statue of baby boy somewhere around Broken Bow or something like that. I don't know. You want it northeastern Oklahoma, I think. I was in Broken, but Thanksgiving, by the way. It was real big of me to cross the Red River, but I was up there. So, you know, and one thing on. Okay, northeast Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Yeah, remember Joni will be, or not Johnny, yeah, Joni will be part of the hearing we'll have for Pete at, and in the committee June 9th, or June 9th, January 9th, January 9th. January 9th. January 9th, so the first week we're back in, we will be with that, I think it's on a Thursday, June 9th, January 9th is a Thursday, we're going to have a hearing. That's going to set up his confirmation vote for maybe as early as June 21st. And I would encourage people, if you're really interested in this, even though to watch a hearing
Starting point is 00:35:48 is like watching paint dry. But if you actually are interested in our word, Joni's going to be, she'll be up pretty quick on the dais because she has seniority in the committee and ask her questions. And just listen to how she answers that question, how she asks her questions and how Pete does.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Because, as I said, I believe she's yes. And I believe we're wanting to get Pete confirmed quick. So I wouldn't be surprised if he's one of the first ones we actually confirmed, too, on a vote. Really, that's interesting information. That's worthy of me thinking about and breaking down. Always enjoy having you on the show.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma, thanks for being on the Will Kane show. Thanks, brother. Talk to you later. All right, there he goes. I just want to say three things really quickly. You know, I totally respect that Joni Ernst has a history that she wants to make sure that there's never a situation
Starting point is 00:36:35 where someone who would be guilty of sexual assault finds their way to the highest levels of American government. If that's her motivation, then take your time, figure it out, but ultimately arrive at the truth. I hope that's her motivation. I hope it's not that, you know, she hoped for that position herself, and that was her opposition to Pete Higgs at the second. I think that's fascinating information we just got from Senator Mark Wayne Mullen about those
Starting point is 00:36:58 hearings come January 9th and that she'll be up first, and he's encouraging everyone to watch. I think he respects Joni Ernst, and I think that's an honest respect. I would have asked him this, and maybe I will next time. My suspicion, he's friends with Johnny Ernst, and there's a lot of collegiality up there in the Senate, and I bet you Johnny Ernst is looking for an opportunity. opportunity for a landing on this Pete Hegseth deal, that she wants to be on the right side of this. She wants to vote now for Pete Hegseth. And that hearing, if they're wanting to draw attention to that, will be an opportunity
Starting point is 00:37:27 for Joni Ernst to get, honestly, I'm back on the right side of this thing when it comes to Hegseth. And then three, guys, before we go, New York, let me just go back to this one more time. What, why do I look liberal, uh, fellas in New York? This is from Mango Kennedy on YouTube. I'm watching live for the first. time I love Pete, but Will Kane looks like a liberal to me. It's
Starting point is 00:37:51 kind of weird, two days and young seven, it's weird that this doesn't surprise me. I know. I actually kind of get it. I see it. But I can't articulate it. I can't figure it out why I look like a live. There's a crossover with the shirt you're wearing and what some of the
Starting point is 00:38:08 hipsters of Brooklyn might. Is that right? I have a theory. You know how this cosplaying as Cowboys is a big thing with the hipsters now? I think that's why. I think because you're an actual Cowboy. That I'm cosplaying Cowboy? No, you're an actual That I'm cosplaying Cowboy? No, you're a Texan. You're a real one. But the
Starting point is 00:38:23 other people are. Oh. So it gets looped in. So you're getting looped in. What I am authentically is a thing that Libs are cosplay in Brooklyn. Now I look like the lives cosplaying instead of what I really am. That's what I think it is. You're just for a golf shirt
Starting point is 00:38:39 that would never happen. You know what I think it is? I think it has something to do with my face. And I just can't put my finger on it. But we might have more theories and we'll work through those today here on the Wilcane show. Don't go anywhere. We want to talk about Caitlin Clark bending to the woke mob. And I promise you, this little walk's going to take us through Tulsi Gabbard, RFK, and Luigi Mangione.
Starting point is 00:39:04 It's not just hypocrisy. It's underlying violence driven by Marxism coming up on the Wilcane show. Have you ever wondered what happened to the legendary Chuck Norris? Well, I recently saw a video he made, and I was shocked. He's in his 80s. He's still kicking butt, working out, and staying active. What's even more shocking is he's stronger, can work out longer, and even has plenty of energy left over for his grandkids. He did this by just making one change. He says he still feels like he's in his 50s. His wife even started doing this one thing, too, and she's never felt better.
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Starting point is 00:41:12 Following Fox's initial donation to the Kerr County Flood Relief Fund, our generous viewers have answered the call to action. across all Fox platforms and have helped raise $6.5 million. Visit go.com forward slash TX flood relief to support relief and rebuilding efforts. All right. It's a shame. She's driven ratings to historic standards in the WNBA. She did it by just being a basketball player, standing on her own two feet, building her own career and not giving in to what everyone else required of her, but now she's bent the knee. Caitlin Clark.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It is the Will Cain Show streaming live at Fox News.com. The Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Hit subscribe on Apple Spotify or join us every Monday through Thursday, 12 o'clock Eastern Time, right here on Fox News YouTube. Here's the headline from Outkick talks about what's just went down. Fans turn on Kate and Clark after she predictably bent things. knee to the insufferable woke mob. I don't know how it was predictable, except that it's what's required of everyone.
Starting point is 00:42:24 And eventually, everyone bends the knee. Caitlin Clark said in an article with Time Magazine, apparently, I want to say I've earned every single thing, but as a white person, there is privilege. A lot of those players in the league that have been really good have been black players. This league has been kind of built on them. the more we can appreciate that, highlight that, talk about that, and then continue to have brands and companies invest in those players that have made this league incredible.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I think it's very important, and I have to continue to try to change that. Nothing about what Caitlin Clark had to say here is offensive or outrageous. It's just a surrender. It's a white flag. This idea that the league has been built on the backs of black women, ignores the fact that the league has been a historic failure until the arrival of Caitlin Clark. It's just a fact.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I mean, it may have been primarily populated by black women who can play basketball, but the ratings and the fandom and the profit loss of the WNBA is an abject, undeniable, objective failure subsidized by the NBA. In comes Caitlin Clark, ratings sore. And it's more accurate to say the league has now been built on the back of Caitlin Clark. But of course, she can't say that, and nor should I, if I'm attempting to be politically correct. No, you have to say what now Caitlin Clark has said. And she has been ostracized.
Starting point is 00:43:55 She's been bullied. She's been physically attacked during games because she was unwilling to say what she has now said. She weighed the white flag. She said what was required of her. Just know that surrender isn't a finish line. Surrender is a journey. It's like this confirmation process for Donald Trump's nominee. to his cabinet. You fold on Matt Gates, they're going to require you to fold on Pete Heggseth.
Starting point is 00:44:20 You fold on Pete Hegseth. You're going to have to fold on Tulsi Gabbard. And if you fold on Texas Gabbard, you're going to be failing on RFK. Retreat and surrender are a journey, not a finish line. So every time you wave that white flag, just get used to it because it's going to be your new banner. You know, speaking of race, I want you to look at this from Congressman Jamal Bowman of New York. After the verdict in favor of Daniel Penny, he wrote a tweet, a a little bit of a manifesto he's an outgoing congressman from new york and he wrote a dear white people uh tweet i think we have it we can put it up for you to take a look at here but it's um it's quite the long thing that he wrote i don't wait we may not have it here to pull it up for you
Starting point is 00:45:03 but um he he told white people that he was hoping for them but he was making a plea still hoping that they would come together but um he was beginning to lose some hope here it is here's what he had to say dear white people i don't know why i feel the need to keep talking to you i don't know why part of me still has hope for you and for us some of you are too far gone but maybe enough of you aren't and will join in fighting to end white supremacy there's nothing to take away from this nothing absolutely at all except for the overt racism by jamaal bowman i think it's enough overt racism to actually make a character indictment combined with personal past history that he is a racist
Starting point is 00:45:45 soon to be former congressman Jamal Bowman but I was talking about this white flag of surrender and the hypocrisy that requires you walks you down the path of it becoming your banner look at do you remember this from a little bit earlier in the week
Starting point is 00:46:02 we talked about this look at the intel execs that have come out against Tulsi Gabbard she begins her meetings this week on Capitol Hill right I find this fascinating this is the NBC News headline Nearly 100 former national security officials alarmed at the prospect of Gabbard leading the intel community. Now, I remembered that technique. I'm sure you do too, so I'll serve as your alarm or your reminder. It's the exact same thing that was said about Hunter Biden's laptop.
Starting point is 00:46:27 However, many former national security advisors and CIA and Deep State intelligence officers dismissed the Hunter Biden laptop as Russian disinformation. And now we hear them lining up. I don't know if it's the same Venn diagram overlay here, but same exact playbook. against Tulsi Gabbard. And oh, by the way, also now against RFK because, hey, once you got a playbook, you know, if you can run the ball, don't stop running the ball until they stop you. So they're going to run the ball straight into RFK as well. Take a look at this headline. It's the number of Nobel laureates lining up now against Robert F. Kennedy Jr., 77 Nobel laureates.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Who knows what Academy of Science. Warren Senate against confirming RFK Jr. for Health Secretary role. just so brazen, blatant, in your face, open this double standard that they apply. Here's a great example. I'm talking about the way they treat their nominees versus the way they treat the nominees of Donald Trump, right? So Pete Higgs-Zeth wins two bronze stars. And the Washington Post runs an article about how common and unimpressive they are, bronze stars. But Joe Biden awards a soldier bronze stars. And you can read the same exact publication, Washington Post, talking about how amazing it is that he awards bronze stars. How about this?
Starting point is 00:47:46 Have you heard this story once? I'm going to ask you that, as you're listening and watching. Have you heard this story once? I'm going to give you a hypothetical headline. First Indian American nominated to lead the country's FBI in its history. Probably haven't heard that. But it's true. How about Cash Patel?
Starting point is 00:48:01 Look at this. He's not the only one. How about Jay Batatariah? I want you to read you this tweet, I saw. Kind of weird. Let's put that up. kind of weird that J. Batatria is named America's first ever Indian American FBI director, and the media hasn't celebrated this historic first.
Starting point is 00:48:21 No articles about his boyhood, his favorite Indian foods, photo shoots, magazine covers. Don't know what to make of it, Jay Patatariah, NIH director. Same thing with Cash Patel. None of those articles about, you know, his favorite Indian foods, his upbringing, you know, son of, I don't know, grandparents or parents that are immigrants, he will be the first ever Indian American FBI director. Can you imagine the magazine covers?
Starting point is 00:48:46 Can you imagine the television profile puff pieces? You know, were this to happen under the administration of Joe Biden? What is the difference? Capital D, capital D, capital D, capital D. What is the difference? And finally, that takes me to this. The story we talked about yesterday,
Starting point is 00:49:03 Luigi Mangione, the accused murderer of Brian Thompson, CEO of United Health Care. You know, hypocrisy only goes so far until it reveals an underlying truth. Right now, what we're seeing are people like Taylor Lorenz, formerly of the New York Times and the Washington Post, basically celebrate the murder of Brian Thompson.
Starting point is 00:49:27 There's a TikTok trend and videos out, people supporting Luigi Mangione. And I think it's interesting who they are. You know, these are people who are not from the streets. It's not the pitchfork rising of the masses. It's not a class warfare. It's not the voice of the poor. These are the private school kids like Luigi Mangione, $40,000 a year, the valedictorians.
Starting point is 00:49:51 These are the people that have lived a life of privilege and merely wealthy. And for some reason, look at Brian Thompson as the truly rich. And for that, there's no bigger envy, no bigger hatred. no bigger hypocrisy and that hypocrisy i think reveals that it isn't just hypocritical i thought this tweet was amazing so you're telling me luigi mangioni son of multimillionaire there's educated at elite forty thousand dollars a year private schools then ivy league university upen executed brian thompson the son of a working class grain stock laborer in iowa who attended an in-state university and then spent 20 years in the private wealth trenches,
Starting point is 00:50:34 eventually working his way up to CEO at United Healthcare because he is a parasite? We're making the wrong man an American sex symbol. Brian Thompson deserved better. It's true. And these same people now celebrating and making a hero out of Luigi Mangione, by the way, I would bet you would tell you they're against the death penalty
Starting point is 00:50:54 or have probably marched in the opposition to the atrocities in Gaza. So they're not anti-violence. They're not peacenics. It's not really hypocrisy. It's just a mask for something underlying that is ugly and violent. And ultimately, yes, this is true. It's not just a cudgel. This is true.
Starting point is 00:51:16 They want a class warfare, which is not driven from the bottom up. Class war never was. It wasn't in the Soviet Union, and it won't be in America. It will be driven by the bourgeois, you know, the upper middle class because they're envious of the truly wealthy. and so that violence that underlies that is underneath the mask is driven by Marxism. Pete Heggseth has been a subject here on the Will Cain Show for quite some time. He's, of course, my friend, but in the past couple days, we've had people that interacted with Pete various walks of his life.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Yesterday, we had soldiers on, guys that served with Pete Hegg Seth, and testified to the type of leader he is in the theater of war. Well, one of the controversies that's also swirled around Heggshead is his leadership at Concerned Veterans for America, an accusation that he doesn't know how to manage an organization that left it penniless and out of shape. Well, today, we're joined by somebody who can address exactly that. It's the man who took over Concerned Veterans for America after him. His name is Mark Lucas, and he joins us now on The Wilcane Show. Mark, great to see you.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me on, Will. I think we have Mark's audio. I hope we have it. But I'll go ahead and ask you a question, Mark. Let's make sure we're working out those technical difficulties if we have any as we go here. But Mark, I want to ask you, did you take over Concerned Veterans for America? And when you did, was it an awful shape of, as I have been told in the media?
Starting point is 00:52:47 I was able to inherit an incredible team at Concern Veterans for America from Pete Hegseth. his executive team, his strategy, we were able to accomplish two of the most historic reforms in the history of the VA. And that was thanks to Pete Hegseth. I'll tell a story the other day that I was able to brief President Donald Trump on Pete Hegsett's plan. I literally walked in to the Oval Office with the fixing Veterans Health Care report that Pete Hegseth wrote. And I told President Trump that the VA accountability, and whistleblower protection act would be critical for us to bring accountability to the VA. I also told him about Pete Higgs has strategy of how we need to bring choice to veterans' health care.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I believe that if you served overseas in a combat zone, and if you can't get great care at a VA facility, you should be able to drive across town and go to a private facility. So the New Yorker released this report based off of anonymous sources. while I'm on the record, I'm here on the Will Kane show, and I'm also willing to testify in front of the Senate Armed Services Committee on the character and the fitness of Pete Heggseth for our next Secretary of Defense. What about one of the things, one of the reasons, I mean, the attacks on Pete Heggseth at this point are multitudinal. They're coming at him from every angle.
Starting point is 00:54:15 But what I think you have the ability to address here today is one specific angle of attack on. Higset. And that is that he's never managed an organization as large as the Pentagon. By the way, who has before they do that? And that his history of managing very small organizations suggest he doesn't know how to, that he's mismanaged CVA or other veterans organizations he led before getting to CVA, that he didn't manage their finances that left it in bad shape. Can you tell me about the state of the organization itself that you stepped into after Pete? Yes, concerned veterans for was a large grassroots organization with hundreds, if not thousands of volunteers all across the country. And Pete was able to organize these volunteers, which is not an easy thing to do
Starting point is 00:55:02 and fly them into Washington, have them meet with their elected officials to talk about VA policy. So that's one part of this story. The other is he put together a world-class executive team. And when I came into CVA, I didn't have to turn around. the organization, I had to keep up with these guys. His executive team was world class. I retained them. I leveraged them. And that was what set us up for success for those historic victories at the VA. So that's one part of the story. Also, let's talk about organizational management. Let's talk about the Pentagon. These guys want any wars for us. Had they passed any audits? So these guys who are part of this club, this elite general officer club,
Starting point is 00:55:50 they haven't exactly delivered. I think the American people deserve to have a junior officer like Pete Hegeseth with two bronze stars with a combat infantry badge. He's got the tenacity to go in there and shake things up. He's just like Donald Trump. President Trump was a disruptor, and I was able to see President Trump
Starting point is 00:56:10 completely changed the dynamic on the Korean Peninsula. I volunteered to serve during the high of the crisis with Kim Jong-un. And if President Trump would have listened to conventional wisdom, we would have most likely escalated into war. Pete Hegeseth shares that disruptive mentality, and we desperately need him in the Pentagon. Mark, did anybody from the New York or the New York Times, various organizations, NBC News, who are writing these articles on Pete, did they ever reach out to you and what you know about Pete and concerned veterans for America? The New Yorker did not reach out to me. And, well, I'm not that hard of a guy to find.
Starting point is 00:56:47 It's pretty easy when you search Concerned Veterans for America. I pop up right after Pete Heggsett's time. Nobody reached out to me. But I've been actively pursuing media sources or media outlets to set the record straight. So I've talked to the New York Times on record. I've talked to USA Today. I am willing to put my name and my face on this. I want people to know the real story about Pete Heggseth.
Starting point is 00:57:12 because he's an incredible leader. Will, you know him. I brought him to my home state of Iowa for the Iowa caucus. We live streamed together for Fox Nation. The Iowa grassroots, the caucus goers absolutely love Pete Heggseth. I introduced him to two young enlisted soldiers. Pete was able to cut it up with him. He was one of the guys. But also, not only does he have that grassroots ability, he's going to be able to go to the Pentagon with his academic pedigree, Harvard, Princeton, he's going to run circles around these general officers and these policy wrongs from these Washington think tanks. Did, Mark, so you did end up speaking to the New York Times and USA Today?
Starting point is 00:57:54 Did they run what you had to tell them about, Pete? One sentence was all they really ran. I talked to him for 20 or 30 minutes, yeah. Is that right? Okay, so the New York Times and USA Today talked to you for you said, 20 to 30 minutes. They used one sentence for what you had to say. know for a fact, David Belavilla, who I think hired Pete, definitely worked with Pete at,
Starting point is 00:58:17 at the vets, it's terrible that I'm forgetting the vets for freedom. Vets for freedom. They spoke to him for 20 minutes, NBC did use nothing from David Belavia. By the way, you might want to use David Belvi as a character witness because he won the Medal of Honor. No, they had nothing for him. They, NBC did not call Rachel Campos Duffy, who sat beside him on a couch, know, for five years, nor me, who sat beside him on a couch for five years and their character assassination of him instead, only used anonymous sources. So in multiple occasions here now, on different types of attacks and stories, they either did not reach out or only published at best your one sentence. What does that tell you about what's going on with Pete?
Starting point is 00:59:01 It's a part of this new confirmation process that the Democrats want to run. They want to try to have Pete die on the vine. They want to try to crucify him in the media so he doesn't survive until January. Well, that didn't work. And the reason why they don't want to talk to guys like me who go on the record is because we're credible. And the accusations are coming from anonymous sources. The mainstream media understands they will not hold up to scrutiny from the United States Senate during a confirmation process. But like Pete did in Iraq and Afghanistan, why I did as a platoon leader in Afghanistan. We want to set the conditions of the fight. I understand that the mainstream media is adversarial, but we're going on new media. We're going on podcasts like you
Starting point is 00:59:49 with Will. We're going on these other channels that are reaching the grassroots. And our message is resonating. The Article III project, we experienced the largest growth in our grassroots over the last month because of our Action Center promoting Pete Heggseth and Cash Patel for FBI director. We are making a difference. We're going to continue to fight wherever we need to fight. I'll talk to New York Times, USA Today. I'll talk to Democrat senators on Capitol Hill. But right now, Pete Heggseth is winning, and we've got to continue the fight. I think you make an interesting, fascinating point as well about his ability to lead, you know, competently management. It's pretty rich to hear that criticism coming from an institution,
Starting point is 01:00:32 either internally or even those watching it externally. That's failed seven, or eight continuous in a row audits. Like, what is the level of competency that we're worried that we might not match going forward with the Pentagon? It's kind of like what Donald Trump says to African American voters. He's like, hey, you might as well give it a shot because what are they doing for you after all this time? It's like, hey, you know, when it comes to a pin on, you might as well give Pete a shot
Starting point is 01:00:57 because you're just getting missed audit after missed audit. I think it's seven, maybe eight times. Last word, last word to you, Mark. I'd say that the United States of America and the world desperately needs Pete Hegseth to be our next Secretary of Defense. We live in one of the most uncertain times in world history. We see what's going on in Syria. Pete Hegseth, I've known him for over 10 years. We've served together in the military.
Starting point is 01:01:24 He's got the character to lead our country. He's fully aligned with President Trump. If we can't get him confirmed soon enough. All right. Mark Lucas took over CVA Concerned Veterans for America from Pete Hegseth. He's an Afghanistan vet. We appreciate his service. And we appreciate you being with us today here on the Will Cain Show.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Thank you, Mark. Thank you, well. All right. All right, before we go, let me keep guys in New York. I told you something about my face that makes me look maybe like a lib. So we've got another comment here that might help clarify. Okay. This is from Jeffrey Hilton.
Starting point is 01:02:02 He's on YouTube. he says Will Kane is so polished looking that's what makes him look like a liberal also I can't think of him without thinking ESPN so I assume that Jeffrey is saying that ESPN
Starting point is 01:02:19 branding is affecting his view of me I think that's what he's saying I had a bearded at ESPN yeah right which is pretty hipster that's another one is the beard lib or conservative at this point. Don't know. Hard to say.
Starting point is 01:02:35 It depends how thick it is. I think it changed. I think the beard changed hands. I think it really did. Oh, it depends how deep the voice coming out of it is. Yeah. No, I think the beard changed hands. Wait, but two of days I can't guess who's,
Starting point is 01:02:51 he says changed hands, but I can't tell whose hands it's in right now of the beard. I know. What about the Ted Cruz beard? The beard was a hipser thing. It has now come back around. Right. to a non-lib thing, to a conservative thing. I think that's it.
Starting point is 01:03:09 And now a hipster is a little more clean cut. I think hipsters a little more clean cut now. Trying to think about how I can rough it up. I did the beard for a while now. I think I'm going to bring the beard back. I think it's more lib to think about it too much. Wow. To think about it too much?
Starting point is 01:03:27 Yeah, just do you. Well, this is what I do. I analyze, I navel gaze, I think about things. I'm sorry, it's who I am. I should go top gun mustache. And I will say, congratulations, Wilicia. You got in my head today and made me think the entire show. I knew that would.
Starting point is 01:03:46 I knew that would. All right, that's going to do it for us today here on the Will Kane show. We'll be back here again tomorrow, 12 o'clock Eastern time. Fox News, YouTube, Fox News, Facebook, Fox News.com. If you can't wait till then, go subscribe on Apple or Spotify and catch up. Until tomorrow on the Wilkane show. Listen to the all-new Brett Bear podcast featuring Common Ground, in-depth talks with lawmakers from opposite sides of the aisle,
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