Will Cain Country - Something Doesn’t Add Up With the 11 Missing Or Dead Scientists (ft. Lauren Conlin)

Episode Date: April 20, 2026

At least eleven scientists with connections to high-level government research have either died or disappeared over the last 3-5 years, leaving people wanting answers. Los Angeles Magazine Contributor and Host of PopCrimeTV, Lauren Conlin joins Will to continue her deep dive into this mysterious series of events, putting a magnifying glass to each individual case to see where the dots actually connect (or if they don't). Plus, Will and The Crew share their theories for what’s behind these disappearances and react to the Washington Commanders' new logo which tries to pull from their controversial past. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@willcainnews⁠⁠⁠) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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to do away with American scientists in nuclear and space research or a media narrative, making something out of nothing with crime expert, Lauren Conan. It is Wilcane Country streaming live at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page, and always here for you to follow on Spotify or Apple. If you do follow us on Spotify or Apple, you were part of our conversation last Friday. When we discussed this mystery of the missing and dead scientists, many, many of you. chimed in and had this to say about our discussion. Gob Lindy said on YouTube,

it's a total coincidence. Calm down people. Damn, y'all act like it's not every day. Eleven scientists grabbed their handgun and run and hide in the mountain somewhere, or maybe, yes, got murdered on way to that mountain. Everyday stuff, people. I think that comment is with a healthy dose of skepticism, Dan and Pat. Yeah.

Meanwhile, Will Meldrum says, wouldn't touch this story with a 10-foot pole. That was the conversation. Is this all BS? Are we making something out of nothing? Or is this way, way, way beyond the bounds of coincidence? Sassy Baca says on YouTube, these scientists have been there for few decades. Why are they starting to disappear and die in such numbers and only recently? Well, G-VU-4396 says, where there's smoke, they're smoke, they're

fire someone offed these scientists. People all over the place on this, believing that it's coincidence, believing that it is something out of nothing. You know, you told me this, Dan, that a lot of the comments also last far, I was like, Will, you didn't discover this story. The story's been talked about for months. Fair. Fair. But I do think among mainstream media members, this piqued my interest among the earliest. The reason I tell you that is not to be like, oh, I own this story and, you know, I'm, no, no, no. The reason I tell you that is it's, what I'm offering you with that is it's evidence of my interest in the truth behind this story.

I find this story incredibly intriguing. I find it very curious. And I find it definitely worthy of investigation. That investigation can and should come. in the form of law enforcement. But it should also come in the form of us asking critical questions. What I said on Friday is this. Like, I've been in the media long enough to have skepticism about the way stories are formed.

The example that I used on Friday was shark attacks, right? I'm not sure that's the best example, but, like, I just don't like the media story of shark attacks every summer. It's going to happen again. It's going to start, what are we, mid-April. It's going to start in about. two months and you're going to start hearing about shark attacks and it's going to be like, oh my gosh, it's like incredibly dangerous to go into the water. When if you look at any macro scale shark attacks, they fluctuate, they're not up. They're not down significantly. You know,

we just create this overarching narrative and then find examples to support it. You know, once a narrative, a narrative, which is the big story takes shape, and the narrative is, there are 11 scientists who are dead or missing. Something suspicious is going on. Then one tends to go back and plug in the holes. Find the way for stories to fit that bigger narrative. Now, what I would say to you is that's not good. That's not the way logic works.

And this doesn't come from me being a member of the media. This comes from, honestly, me, I attribute most of my logical, critical thinking abilities to going to law school. I just think it was a really, really good education and seeing what connects, right? And what I will tell you right now, that some of these stories inside of the 11 don't make sense with the big narrative. But that doesn't mean all of them can be dismissed. And that's the real trick here. It's using critical thinking on these as individual cases to then see if there's a common tide at binds, not the other way around. And right now, the way it's being treated is the common tie that binds is scientists.

just that word, right? And 11, that's kind of it. That's what ties these things together. I want everyone to know, I'm not dismissing this. I'm the person in the mainstream media who's curious who has peaked at first. But now we have to kick in our critical thinking and ask, is this a true story? Is this a true narrative?

Giles Horton says, what do you mean aliens? Christ, it's a coincidence. that's all. And Ed Norton, 47, said it is merely a coincidence. Ed Norton's a big fan. Yeah, big fan. Remember the Wilicia. Yeah.

And then finally, I just want to share just a few more really quickly. I see where people are on this, and it's all over the place. Mike K-8-11 says, Occam's razor, they are being killed by a foreign government. Iran, comma, sure. Again, I don't know if that's sarcasm. Because what we talked about is Occam's Razor. I am a believer largely in Occam's Razor.

The simplest explanation is the most likely explanation. Seeds of Love says, Have the lady researcher on Will Kane Country who was on Will Kane Show today. You interrupted her story about the people running through a mountain. I wanted to hear the rest in all of her research stories. Please, exclamation point. And I think that's the right thing to do. is like go through these stories and the facts one by one.

So in fact, that's exactly what we're going to do. We're going to have the lady, we're going to have the lady researcher on the show. Right. Why don't we join? Why don't we, why aren't we joined right now by Lauren Conlin, who is the Los Angeles magazine contributor. She is also a New York City based crime reporter, podcaster. She has several shows out there.

She's our lady researcher. Lauren is here now. Do you like that title? I actually have never heard that before. Well, I was like, oh, that's me. I'm the lady researcher. Got it. And it's true.

You didn't know first who I was talking about. And it turns out it's you. You're the lady researcher. That's great. That was on purpose. I'm assuming that was on purpose or else this is crazy. Now I'm really like, okay, I'm freaked out. No, I'm just kidding.

Just kidding. Just kidding. And the commenter is correct as well. I did interrupt you. on Friday. I did it for a couple of different reasons, but I did that because of time and I wanted to get to a lot of stuff. Well, that was not your fault. I'm interrupting you because I felt so bad. I was acting like I've never done a five-minute news segment before. I'm ready to just like lay out my scroll with all my research. And I kind of thought to myself midway through, this guy doesn't have time.

He's got someone in his ear saying rap, rap, rap, I'm sure. Well, you, you sound like, you sound like, you know how TV works. But on that note, you also know how a digital show and podcasting works. And we're under no such time pressures here today. And I do think, Lord, that it is very instructive for us, Lauren, to go through these cases on a case-by-case basis. And you do know a lot of facts about these, at least some of these individual cases. And if when we talk about then we can see if they support this larger story that is taking shape and grabbing the public's attention. So before we do that, I just want to ask you, well, I feel like this is a dangerous question to ask you, because I think some of the audience could be dismissive then of what we have to say.

But do you have an overarching thought? Do you have a top line? Are you ready to say this is a bunch of coincidences? Are you ready to say, no, there's definite connections here, at least on some of these cases? Like what is your overarching thought on this all caps story? Well, I think it's important well that we go, quote, beyond the headlines, right? Because when I was first approached about these stories and it was a couple weeks ago, I was one of the first people that kind of went on network news and talked about it.

And I was looking at just the headlines. And I was like, okay, I'm going through this story, that story. And yes, it does seem like there is some kind of pattern. pattern. Upon digging a little bit further, some of the cases, I will say, are nothing burgers, you know, and I can take you through. But when it comes to General McCaslin and Monica Raza, I am not sure. I think I, I mean, I, I'm still working through it. I will, I will say that much, but it's really difficult to independently verify certain things as it comes to their work and something else I'll say as a journalist when I'm investigating stories and I'm putting it out there through podcast you know written stories and going on network news normally the sources really start coming to me and what I will say about this case or these cases the sources coming to me are friends let's say for example of Monica Reza but I've had no co-workers not one person who has said

to me when it comes to General McCaslin, Reza, Grilmar, not one person who has approached me and said, hey, I worked with them on XYZ, and this is what they were working on specifically, and this is why this could be considered dangerous or whatever. Not one person. That's weird to me. What does that tell you? Does that make you suspicious? Or does that make you feel like it's a nothing burger? No, it doesn't, it doesn't make me feel like it's a nothing. nothing burger. I'm just a little confused. As I've said multiple times, I'm having trouble independently verifying something. Normally someone will email me or DM me on social media and say, hey, I have an answer for you because I heard you say this. And it's strange because I've

gotten plenty of messages, DMs, whatever, and it'll be about that person. But again, no one that's worked with them. And also, I'll also add, I'm getting some really strange emails about why I shouldn't be covering this. Also crazy ones of people saying that they are descendants of extraterrestrial. I mean, it's tough. It's tough to sort through. Okay, okay. I want to do this in an organized fashion, but let me just follow up a few curiosities off of your sort of opening statement here. What do you mean you're getting emails warning you to stay away from this story? Look, you're in a public story, you're a public figure, I'm a public figure in that I get a lot of emails.

I get a lot of messages. It's difficult to know what to take seriously and what not to take seriously. Are you getting warnings from someone that you would take seriously? I don't know who this one person in particular is. So I don't know about if I should take it seriously or not. But what I will say is I get where they're coming from because clearly I think, I think the conspiracy angle is if you talk too much, you will be unalived. But also, I'm sitting here saying I don't have classified government information. I really wasn't that interested in the

UAP sector really until I want to say last year. So what I'm doing is, you know, I'm in the true crime sector. I'm in the investigative sector. I'm looking into these disappearances separately. I'm looking into, for example, the Grilmar murder separately. I'm not necessarily looking into, you know, finding out exactly what they were working on. I'm, and it's not to say that I'm not going to get there, but with these type of warnings and threats, I don't know if I want to get there. I'd rather look into the manner in which they disappeared or they were killed. Okay. Have you looked at all, quote, 11 cases, 11 Sundays?

Have you spent time on all 11? Yes. More so some than others. But, you know, right away, I can tell you, for example, Michael David Hicks, he was the planetary scientist associated with NASA. I mean, you can go on the Los Angeles Medical Examiner's website. You can see that he had morbid obesity, and it says the cause of death was heart disease essentially. And then there's an obituary, I believe, that basically says you can make donations to Al-Anon. So, you know, if you're looking at this on the medical examiner's website, I guess a conspiracy theorist could note that the body was, quote, never brought in.

It was cremated. But that can be common. A medical examiner doesn't have to take your case if, you know, first responders show up and say, okay, he had a heart attack or this happened. So right there, I'm kind of like, let's just move. that to the side. There was Jason Thomas. So he was a master. Wait, before you, before you move on, I want to do these real organized. Okay, let's do that. Let's, we'll start here with Michael David Hicks. Michael David Hicks is dead.

He was a NASA research scientist. This is what we know. He was working on deflecting asteroids for Earth for the NASA Jet Propulsion Lab. Just as an overview for anyone working. the NASA Jet Propulsion Lab is a nexus. It is a nexus where at least four of these scientists had some connection. Frank Mywald, Carl Grilmar, Michael David Hicks, and Monica Reza. The NASA Jet Propulsion Lab does have connections back to the Air Force Research Laboratory, which was overseen by William Neal McCaslin. We'll get to him in a moment. From the Air Force Research Laboratory, we have another nexus that goes off, and that is Los Alamos National Labs. So that everyone understands, like, how these things are being connected, it's largely through, largely, through those two institutions, Los Alamos and NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab. So let's do this. Let's start there. Let's start with NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab. There are four people under that umbrella. first michael david hicks working on deflecting asteroids from earth you're telling me that his cause of death

according to is you did you say the los angeles uh medical examiner yeah okay it uh was a lot angelo heart issues in morbid obesity yes cardiovascular disease morbid obesity uh and it says the manner was natural so yeah like i mentioned the it does say the body status not brought in and I think that's been a talking point for a lot of people, you know, that he was, he was cremated and then there's not much out there. But this seems, you know, pretty cut and dry to me. Let's take quick break, but continue this conversation. Keep getting to the facts under the 11 scientists missing or dead. With Los Angeles Magazine contributor Lauren Conlin on Wilcane Country.

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Did he have friends or family that you have spoken to or seen statements from? I think that's important because we could do this. And I'm going to go ahead and bounce a little bit, but I want everybody to trust them. Amy Eskridge is the latest. Amy Eskridge is the latest. She is the quote unquote 11th. Amy Eskridge is not connected to any of this, not connected to any of these nexuses or lines on a map.

She worked for something called like, or she owned something called like the Exotic Science Institute in Alabama. She had audio where she would appear on some podcasts and that kind of thing, where she said her life was in danger and people were going through her underwear drawer and threatening her life. Her official cause of death is self-inflicted gunshot wound. Her mom gave a statement to my show last week that was like, Amy was troubled, basically, dealing with chronic pain.

Scientists die the same way that other people die in this society, basically saying this is not connected to this overarching story when it comes to Amy Eskridge. She does seem to be, in everything you read, when you watch her videos, troubled, Lauren. So this is where the details matter. Let's talk about her and continue on Michael David Hicks. Yes. So I, you know, when I saw this with Michael David Hicks, I, you know, I didn't reach out to any family, any family or friends immediately. It, you know, I guess it wasn't, it wasn't sort of urgent for me once I kind of put this together.

I kind of thought, okay, fine. When it comes to Amy Eskridge, I did try reaching out. And I also saw another statement, her father, uh, announcement. NASA scientist who is retired Dr. Richard Esfridge made about his daughter, essentially kind of saying the same thing. I did get some information from a source that knew Amy. And, you know, it's tough because if Amy was struggling with mental health issues, that's not something that, you know, you can publicly really put out there, right? I mean, there are kind of laws around this and, you know, you can't really get these files. but he sort of indicated that Amy had been struggling with some mental health issues.

There possibly could have been some delusions. But then, you know, again, this is a source. So take that for what you will. I know that Ross Colthart has been very vocal about saying, you know, I've looked into this and she did not kill herself. But then you have her parents and those close to her saying, yes, she did. I also think it's naive to necessarily believe everything you're told and not ask questions on both sides, I guess. So with Amy Eskridge, you know, I think it's tough because I also feel guilty about the family having to relive this.

You know, their daughter's death when this happened four years ago. So it's tough. I haven't really, I haven't made a decision on what I think per se, but I, I, am leaning towards the fact that maybe she, she was a little bit troubled. And she, she didn't have any type of security clearance. She wasn't connected to the government. I mean, she, you know, she kept saying disclosure is coming out of Huntsville. This is based on her own research, but she wasn't, you know, she wasn't funneling this to, to the government at all that that we know of or that anyone really knows that that's been very close to this. Right. And look, for anyone who is more suspicious,

listening. It would be, of course, you know, I don't use the word conspiracy dismissively, okay, because conspiracy theorists have been on a hot run over the past five years. But the thing is, you know, you can always come up with an explanation. Like, it is hard to distinguish, perhaps somebody who has mental health issues from somebody who's under legitimate pressure from externally, who would be trying to make them feel like they're crazy or act crazy or these kind of things. So acknowledging that, I do take the word of family as evidence, not dispositive, but as evidence. Because again, one could say, well, the family's under pressure now, so they don't want to continue this. But if you were lining up people who would be most

interested in getting to the truth of a loved one's death, family would be near the top of the list you would think of people who are interested in getting to the truth of someone's death. And if the family of Amy Eskridge is saying, hey, y'all are making something out of nothing and it hurts us to do this again, I would give significant weight to that. Again, not dispositive, but significant weight. And I want to be clear, they haven't said this hurts us. I was just kind of speculating that it's got to hurt for this to be kind of brought back up again. I was just totally speculating. But I'm really glad that you mentioned that about the whole guess.

gas lighting. And you're right. There's there's a fine line there where this comes out and someone can say, oh, she's crazy. She's having delusions. So it's tough. It's so, it's so, so difficult. But yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah. And so what that tells me is like she is not an obvious case to be connected to anyone else. Now back to Michael David Hicks, what you have is you have a natural causes death, according to the coroner. And again, I think that somebody who's extremely suspicious would say, well, these types of things can be dismissively manipulated. Oh, that's the way you do that, so it doesn't look suspicious.

But here you have a clear death, and you do have, the problem is conspiracies can get too big at some point, right? Now we've got a medical examiner in Los Angeles, would have to be in on it to some extent, or pressure to be in it on some extent or fooled in some way to be in on it, but a guy who died due to his morbid obesity. Yeah, I mean, like I said, and then the whole Al-Anon, maybe there was some kind of addiction there as well. It just seemed like I could move on from that if I wasn't trying to push my own narrative.

Like if I really thought there was a conspiracy, a hundred percent. I think, sure, maybe I would press a little harder. And look, I'm not even saying that I won't go back, but I think there's, you know, there's only so much time in the day, and there's certain aspects of other cases that really need more attention, I will say. And, you know, I know what we're going to get there, but Monica Reza is one of them. Neil McAastlin is one of them. There needs to be more attention on those cases. We will get there. Let's stay with the Jet Propulsion Laboratories, which will include Monica But you mentioned a name a name a moment ago. So Carl Grilmar. Carreelmar is dead. He was working on

infrared telescopes. His work helped find, I guess, water on a distant planet. Again, he was under the NASA jet propulsion lab. So what details do we know about the death of Carl Gromar? So Carl was reportedly a genius. He was a Caltech astrophysicist. And, you know, his, his death, actually it's awful, but I really think his death is separate. I have major questions about the perpetrator, major questions here. But it really crosses over with potential systemic failures in the judicial, excuse me, judicial system as well. But I can't even remember if I talked about this on your show. But Carl Grilmere was, you know, he lived in this very remote area of Lano, California, and his neighbors were, you know, a few miles away. But this man, Freddie Snyder,

was on his property with a rifle. And this is December, 2025. And at first, this is actually widely misreported. I shouldn't even say widely because not many covered it. But I think it was the New York Post that said Carl Grilmeyer called 911 on Freddie Snyder for being on his property in December. But that's not true. I spoke to his wife and his wife said, oh no, Carl was curious, so he kind of went out there, saw this guy with a gun and he said the guy was talking to him. He was a little strange, mentioned coyote hunting. And then I guess at the end of the driveway, police were there. So somebody called the police. Again, we don't know who I have FOIA requested all of the, you know, the information surrounding all of his cases because obviously

he comes back to eventually shoot Carl Grilmer fatally, allegedly. So Freddie Snyder gets arrested on a felony. It didn't happen in it. No, this is not just ever. Sorry, it didn't happen in this initial interaction. No, I'm just prefacing that he, you know, he was there. And again, for unknown reasons, this is a very isolated area. So it's strange that he was on the property.

I also mentioned there are two other neighbors within, you know, a mile that work in aerospace. And I don't want to, I have where they work, but I don't want to say it just to be, you know, careful, but, you know, they asked, the police asked Carl, do you want to press charges for trespassing? And his wife just said, you know, he was the nicest person. He said no, but there was a felony weapons charge in his booking. And again, I know this because I've really been diving in. And for whatever reason, the judge, who I don't have the name yet, released him, ROR the same day, even though certain people had kind of come forward to cops and said, yeah, he's a little unhinged.

And then by February 5th, don't know why, but prosecutors had just dropped the charges completely, this felony weapons charge. And February, 2026, just two months ago, allegedly Freddie Snyder comes back and shoots Carl Grilmer on his own property in the torso. And now he actually hasn't even been arraigned yet. He gets arraigned April 29th. It's been pushed back. So I'm wondering, is there an NGI plea coming, which means not guilty by reason of insanity? Is that why the arraignment was pushed off? A lot of questions.

Carl's wife believes there is no connection here to the other scientist. She thinks that's crazy, that's silly. But we don't know the motive of this guy, Freddie Snyder. We have no idea. So what more do we know about Freddie Snyder and his background? I mean, he's only 29 years old. There's really not much about him online. But the same day that he allegedly shot Carl Grilmer, he also,

was arrested for carjacking as well, sealing a car. I, yeah, there's, again, not much out there. I submitted my FOIA request a couple weeks ago, so I'm thinking it should come through. I also, you know, I requested that the charging docs from the DA's office or the indictment. I don't even know if this, I don't think this is by way of indictment because I think there was enough probable cause, right, to charge this guy. But it's, California is so difficult when it comes to. getting documents and whatnot.

So I've just, I've got to wait. But I'm really, really confused about that. And last thing I'll say is I did ask the DA's office for a comment about why they would release him or, you know, what happened. And they just said no comment. All right. The, that's Michael David Hicks and Carl Gromar, two more at NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab. Frank Mywald, dead. He was a top scientist directing signs.

at detecting signs of alien life. What do you know about Frank Mywald? So I would say I don't know too much about Frank, but I will say he, he's not in the, he reportedly died in Los Angeles. He's not in the medical examiner's lookup on their database. I have reached out, have not heard back to sources close to him that I could find. But what I will say is everything about his death, he was sick. 61 years old, died in 2024. Again, I can't find a cause of death listed, but in his obituary,

everything seems hunky dory. Well, I don't know if that means anything, but they're, you know, family photos. The obituary is, is seems to be very normal, so to speak. I mean, you know, talking about his life and his job, there's no, uh, secrecy around what he did. So I kind of was like, I'm, I'm a little less concerned about that as well. I think that's just like, okay. Somebody worked there and he passed away. That's what I'm thinking so far without, again, speaking to family directly. Let's take quick break, but continue this conversation. Keep getting to the facts under the 11 scientists missing or dead.

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SUV-W, German engineered for all. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with Los Angeles Magazine contributor and true crime reporter. Lauren Conlin talking about the facts, the individual cases of the 11 scientists missing or dead. What about you haven't spoken to family? And have they given statements on Frank Malwell? No. Because I think that, again, this is one of the least, and I feel guilty saying this.

I don't want to say interesting or mysterious. It's just not, I think this is more like, all right, another name was grabbed because he worked in this sector and he was connected to doing similar research as the others. But I think this was just, you know, an ordinary death. if I had to guess. Well, the only thing about that is 61 isn't that old. I mean, I don't know. It feels like maybe 50 years ago, 61 sounded old.

It doesn't anymore. Maybe it's because I'm getting older. Like, 61 natural causes. I'm a little bit like, I mean, 61 is cancer, heart attack? Like, okay, if I hear something about one of those two things. No one said natural causes. It just doesn't say. And look, if it was an eye.

I'm wildly speculating. Let's say it was self-inflicted or whatever. I mean, I think that some people want to keep that private, and they won't talk about that. Again, I don't know, but I just don't think without, you know, peeling back all of the layers or speaking to family or knowing everything, that one didn't really pique my interest to continue to get further. Yeah.

There's not independent. evidence that raises suspicions beyond his connections to being a scientist. I get that. It's like, are we proving a negative or are we proving a positive? And you should have to prove a positive, not a negative. In other words, we shouldn't work from the premise, wow, this is suspicious in a conspiracy, prove it's not. We should start from the premise of somebody's dead, prove the positives along the way that his death was suspicious and then connected to other deaths. So I hear you, that's the proper legal way. And the reason why that's a proper way to do that, You're lawyering me.

The burden of proof is, yeah, you're totally lowering me. Well, that's because it's impossible to prove a negative. That's because it's impossible to prove a negative. If you work from a premise of that, you'll never have your questions answers. That means if you have a positive proposition in mind, these scientists are being killed to cover up UAPs. It's impossible to prove that's not true. It's because you're having to prove a negative, right? So you start from an open mind and have to build the positives to get to the outcome.

Okay, and in the fourth and final one under the NASA Jet Propulsion Lab is the one you've now teased us with, and you clearly have something to say. And that is Monica Reza. Monica Reza, Director of Materials Processing Group, who is missing, not dead. And I've told you on television, missing to me, that raises my eyebrows much more even than dead. That is exactly how I feel. One thing that I'm working on trying to independently verify, here and and you can tell me if you think this is just sort of like you know educated enough to speculate but Monica Reza is connected to General McCaslin because of government funding on one of her projects but this you know when I say I'm I've independently verified it this way

through LinkedIn she was contracted at Pratt and Whitney which is essentially a government contract And her LinkedIn says 1987 through 2012. Meanwhile, Neil McCaslin, he was at the Air Force Research Lab. Let me get this date. And that is May 2011 to July 2013. So they did overlap there. I don't know if they both were stationed at Wright Patterson at the same time. I'm also trying to independently verify that, although I know they both have connections there.

So that is one thing to sort of just keep in the back of your mind as we talk about these disappearances. But I've spoken now to two different sources connected to Monica Reza, who did not work with her. They were part of this yoga group that I had mentioned on your show. And I was very shocked that Monica was training to become a yoga instructor. This is per two sources. And the yoga practice incorporated astronomy, not astrology. I'm sorry. Actually, let me make sure I'm saying that. Yes, astrology and Vedic sciences.

So Monica was hiking in June of 2025 in the Mount Waterman area of California's Angles National Forest. And it's huge there, Will. I mean, we're talking hundreds of thousands of acres. I did not realize that. And I want to also point this out. When you're investigating missing persons cases or cases like this, it's really did. difficult to just sort of imagine it in your head if you've never actually been to the location that they disappeared. So, you know, it was important to me to sort of understand this,

this area. So it's huge, but we know the specific coordinates she was at. She was hiking with a male companion from the yoga group, a female companion. And as I'd mentioned on your show, this terrain very steep, very dangerous. You really should not be running on this. And this terrain, even if you're a skilled hiker, which Monica reportedly was. Now, I heard yesterday from a source, the male companion that she was with really like to push the limits. Just in general, seemed to be like a risk taker like that. So I'm thinking maybe it was his idea about the running, but they were running, I guess, or she was running. And he saw her look behind him. She was about 30 feet behind him and then a minute later she wasn't he didn't hear anything he didn't see anything

but when he uh told law enforcement and told other people about you know where she was last seen the coordinates i mean again i mentioned it was much closer to the road than we initially thought but the person i spoke to yesterday was like i have been searching for four months And Will, I have not said this out loud anywhere. I talked to him like last night, them last night. Four months. I've been searching. We have a Facebook group with these grassroots search efforts.

You know, law enforcement, obviously they were searching for the first two months. I mean, this is so bizarre. Where is she? When you were looking in this one area, I mean, you would think after four months, there would be something, but there's nothing. I mean, it's, I mean, it's, I. I also came across this, this, I don't even know what's a document, but I couldn't find the origin of this document. And it had sort of like her last steps, let's say.

And then there was something that this person, whoever wrote this, again, I don't know the origin. So if it's totally valid, but around 2.30 p.m. that afternoon and she had disappeared or was last seen around 9.10 a.m. that morning, I guess other hikers possibly heard yelling or screaming. But again, I don't know if this is valid or not because I have not seen this report anywhere by law enforcement, by anyone. And I would think that that would be somewhat important. And we also, we haven't heard much about her cell phone pings either. I mean, it's strange.

Yeah. Well, okay. So I have a lot of questions, not all of which lead me to conspiracy. So I've done a fair amount of hiking, even though, to your point, these forests and these national parks can be hundreds of thousands of acres in size. The truth is, most people stay pretty close to some well-worn paths. Like, you know, if you go hike, Yellowstone is huge. I've hiked a lot in Yellowstone. You're on trails that are predetermined.

Almost everybody is. Not everybody, but almost everybody is. Meaning one of two things. you were running to other people, or even if you fell off the trail, you would most likely be within, you know, some measure of distance from that trail. You wouldn't all of a sudden be off into the Great Unknown unless you were trying to be off in the Great Unknown in these forests and parks. Yeah. So that's one. Two, if she went, if she went missing within a 60-second time frame where this guy is with her and then he turns around and she's gone, did he not go

back and look immediately, look off the edge of the trail. Did she fall down somewhere down there? What's his role in all of this? Was it suspicious? Was he investigated? So I do know who this person was that was last seen with her. I have chosen to sort of keep that contained. I don't want the internet to turn on someone that, you know what I mean? You know how you know how it goes um i know this person feels very badly i know from sources that her family has kind of been like what why were you letting her go behind you if you were running and this and that like why would you do that they weren't super happy about that um i i think he's been looked at uh is what i can say and i don't think there's anything nefarious there um besides

responsibility and, you know, carelessness. I don't know. I'm really, I'm not sure. It just seems very bizarre that she vanished, like, just vanished. Right. Because again, back to the hiking trail thing. You would have a limited search area, I would think. You would have a limited, you're not searching the 100,000 acres.

You're searching the area around the trail in a 60-second time frame where somebody goes missing, down the hill, you know, if they fell down the hill and they survived, could they have tried to hike out along the creek or river or whatever is to exit? Like, I just think that it's a little weird that she's still missing. That's what's a little weird. Like somebody falling off a hiking trail, I can imagine somebody falling off a hiking trail and not being found ever. That's harder to imagine.

Well, and then, by the way, she had her cell phone. So yes, apparently she had her cell phone, but we haven't really seen anything about her, her last cell phone pings, which I think is strange because that's normally what you kind of hear from first with with law enforcement. Like, okay, her cell phone, this was the last place her cell phone pinged, you know, XYZ. But obviously the service isn't great there. But there was a hat that they found. The search dogs found a hat that had Monica sent. And apparently her. just stopped at the hat. I did see a report where the dogs also could not go past where this hat was because the terrain was so dangerous. So even for the dog. So, you know, it's, I, it's one of those things where you're just like, this is, this is really weird.

And this person also said that Monica, he knew that Monica was a scientist. He thought she was retired. although I go back to her LinkedIn where her current workplace says Aerojet Rocketdyne. It just says she's been working there since 1988 to the present. Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation. Keep getting to the facts under the 11 scientists missing or dead. With Los Angeles Magazine contributor Lauren Conlin on Wilcane Country. Amazon presents Jeff versus Taco Truck Salsa.

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skills training programs for in-demand fields like software development and information technology. Learn more at aboutamazon.ca. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with Los Angeles Magazine contributor and true crime reporter, Lauren Conlon, talking about the facts, the individual cases of the 11 scientists missing or dead. Okay, as I understand, you have a heart out here in about 10 minutes, so I'll speed up through these last couple things. Okay, okay.

All of which are missing. It's yours, not mine, I think, right? You have to be somewhere? Yeah, I do. It's a crazy news day. Okay, these are all missing. Let's go to Los Alamos for now, and I'll just, Anthony Chavez, employee at Los Alamos, Monica Casillas, employee at Los Alamos, and then Stephen Garcia, not employees Los Alamos, but a contractor through the Air Force Research Laboratories. All of them are missing. I'm not convinced. Tell me what you know, that all these people had access.

People raised Monica Casillas, like she was administrative assistant. Was she really doing something, therefore, very secretive? Right, right. And so I'll go back to. So Melissa, I will say, I don't know, yeah, Melissa Cassius, I don't want to pronounce that, but she had a very low level, yeah, low level position, meaning, yes, she was an administrative assistant. She did not have any type of security clearance that we know of publicly.

What I will say is there was a Dateline episode about her case, and it does seem like she was having some financial troubles. There was some trouble in her life, not related to work. And I kind of just said, okay, this doesn't seem like it's connected, although it's very, very strange. You know, I, again, I have not spoken to her family and friends, but yeah, if I had to just sort of speculate, I didn't spend much time on that. So, okay.

are Anthony Chavez and Stephen Garcia both individuals? I read about this and saw us who really weirdly just walked out of their home without their phone, without their keys. And one of them, I believe, had a gun. They're both missing. Yes. So, well, you know, I'll touch upon Anthony Chavez quickly because he also worked at Los Alamos. He was reportedly a technician. I have not been able to independently verify exactly what he did.

Again, I go back to these companies. They're very, you know, strange about that when you, when you email public affairs or call them. But it's strange just because he also went hiking in New Mexico, reportedly like General McCastland and disappeared. And that was it. So that's strange. I will say that's bizarre. But I don't necessarily know anything about his security. clearances. He reportedly has connections, you know, to all of that. But I, again, I think

that might just be coincidental and, and just a tragedy if, you know, he got into some kind of accident. But with Stephen Garcia, on the missing poster, it does say that officials believe that he could be a danger to himself. I have reached out to two of his family members. I have not heard back. I also reached out to the Casey Ennessy to try to verify exactly what his role was with the custodian of weapons that, that, you know, we have heard reported widely. Haven't heard back from them, but I think he might be a case of mental health. However, I've said this.

I think it's a bigger conversation to have because those connected to this very secretive aerospace research or American America's national defense. Think of the pressure they're under. Think of what that does to you mentally when you can't really talk about your your job with your loved ones or friends or anyone like that. And again, we don't know exactly what they were working on, but I could imagine that the strain and the stress of all this, that may add to just some mental health issue. So that's sort of what I was thinking with Stephen Garcia without speaking directly to family members. but not for lack of trying.

And then this one might be the most important one for us to discuss, actually, and that is General William Neal McCaslin, who oversaw a research base in Air Force Research Laboratories, which to some extent is the nexus for all of this, and he as well has gone missing. Yes, this one is bugging me for a number of reasons. I mean, first of all, I know that, well, I'll just go back, your viewers aren't aware in February of 2026, General McCastlin appeared to just walk out of his home

in New Mexico without his, his glasses, without his phone. There was reportedly a revolver missing and he was last seen talking to some kind of repair man that came to his home. His wife left about an hour before that for a doctor's appointment. When she got home, he wasn't there. She asked, you know, friends, family, and this was around noon, and she reported him missing. around three. On a 911 call that was released a few weeks later, she had indicated that he was experiencing this mental, this brain fog, and that's one of the reasons he retired. And he was frustrated with this. But she said, you know, he specifically changed clothes before he left that day. And she kind of surmised on the phone with the 911 operator, like maybe he didn't want to be found.

And I was like, oh, wow, that's interesting. And then she made a Facebook post kind of just, you know, saying, basically saying, oh, all this UFO lore is, is, is silly. You know, this, this is nothing to do with why, you know, he, he disappeared. And then she kind of made a joke and said, but at this point, it feels like, you know, he was sort of beamed up to the sky. And I was like, oh, that's, that's interesting. But he had been retired for the last six years per his LinkedIn. Now, Eric Burleson has gone on multiple shows saying that he reached out to General McCasklin twice. And then he quote mysteriously disappeared.

I've interacted with his office trying to get information for stories I've been filing. And his office kind of said, oh, we don't really have any updates on General McCaskill. And this was like three weeks ago, you know, out of respect for his family, we're not going to spec. whatever. And then I see this clip of him saying that he reached out twice. So I go back to his office. And I'm like, you know, are you, do you guys sort of expect journalists and reporters to go and listen to every podcast, every news hit in order to, you know, I guess, you know, write our stories because like I don't have time to do that. I try. But like, wouldn't that be something that you would tell me? And then, you know, I'm kind of like, I would love a timeline. Like, when did he reach out?

Why did he reach out? Burleson, I think he took office in 2023. McCaslin, retired 2020. What were you reaching out about exactly? His wife is saying he doesn't know anything about UFOs or UAPs. Burles is saying he's basically the gatekeeper for this stuff. So I just feel like we're also at this place where, and I'm trying to figure out how to say this. We're getting congressmen and people clipped.

and going viral, just saying viral remarks. And I don't understand, you know, when you start to ask questions or why, or basically why no one else has asked questions. Like, okay, you reached out twice. When? Why? I mean, what, you know, like, it's just, it's strange to me. All I keep seeing is like, oh, well, if you knew what I knew, if you saw what I, okay, cool,

well, let's get into it, you know? Yeah, I do think that's fair. If you knew what I knew, that's Congressman Andy Ogles, has been on this show, Congressman Tim Burchett has been saying some pretty big things on this show. Berluson has been pushing this as well. I do think that what they have to say is often in the realm of I can't quite put my, I can't quite sink my teeth into what you're saying. You're just saying something that sounds, it needs to be backed up because it sounds really big.

But I need more than. And we heard this before, Will, with the Epstein, with the Epstein files, We heard Pam Bondi being like, ugh, they're so sick. They're this, they're that. And then even now, like what has happened with the Epstein files? Nothing. No one's been arrested. I guess you can count Prince Andrew, but that wasn't because of, you know, the DOJ releasing

these files. So I'm just kind of like, yeah, you guys love getting clipped. And sorry, I shouldn't even say that because I know that Berluson is really doing a great job pushing for transparency. You know, he's saying that, you know, no one in Congress has ever been fired or unalive for sharing what goes on in these type of briefings. So I give them credit for that. I just, I think that, you know, there comes a point where we have to stop like with the whole,

I don't know, sensationalism. All right. Lauren Conlon, doing stuff for Los Angeles Magazine, a true crime podcast looking into these cases. Keep looking, Lauren. You know, I'll tell you, and I'll talk about with my audience in this moment, there's several different buckets I made listening to you, sort of the no, maybe, and definitely suspicious. And there's a few that do exist in the definitely suspicious realm.

And it doesn't mean all of them do. And it doesn't mean that the narrative is true. But those that are in the definitely suspicious realm, that's where you start. I think that's where you start right there in seeing if there's a bigger story. Lauren, thanks so much for being with us here today. Thanks for having me well. All right. over on

Facebook now Freedom Q9L says I'm wondering why we haven't heard anything from the families well we have in some cases that we just talked about with Lauren you've heard from the family of Amy Eskridge you've heard from the family of Carl Gromar you've

this is just the ones that she just mentioned you've heard from Neil McCaslin to some extent's family Vic G2260 says could it be could it be it is to create some fear. Yeah, but, yeah, definitely it could be.

But that is an explanation for an affirmative belief, right? The affirmative belief that all of this is connected. Why is it connected? Well, why is this happening? To create fear to stay silent, presumably about something. But you have to accept the first premise to get to that. I think you have to work from the other way. I'll tell you what.

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It's funny how everybody's all over the place because here's now Danny a.065 saying this is another distraction And then ITV9 Live says Has anyone asked Grock or another AI this question? What are the odds of 11 scientists going missing? Well, they're not all missing. So that's the thing. We've got to get the details right, because the devil is in the details, right? What is it?

How many are missing versus how many are dead? I believe it's like, is it six missing, five or six missing? Let's see. And three or four dead? I have it up right here. I can pull it back up. I asked AI what the odds are. I gave it a bunch of articles on it.

Okay. So it said... What did it say? It said all 11 connected in one coordinated pattern. The chances are 5 to 10%, very unlikely. Some subset, two to four cases, share a real link. The plausibility is 30 to 40%. And mostly unrelated, coincidental grouping, 60 to 70%.

Okay. This chart that I have up in studio doesn't include Amy Eskridge. If you include Amy Eskridge, that's four dead and one, two, three, four, five missing. There's somebody not on this because the number is now being quoted as 11. That was before Eskridge. Yeah, Amy Eskridge has 10. Well, Eskridge is missing, but there's got to be one more. Yeah.

But McCastellan is the main guy, I think. The guy that this all kind of hinges around, right? Yes. Isn't he the guy who's connected to Tom DeLange or Blink 12? I don't know what you're talking about. Someone asked a question. Did some go missing before they were found dead? Well, let's walk through that.

Hold on. Let me pull back up. Visually helps me a lot. I have to see this. to fully and I've got this up in the studio here okay let's go back through it Carl Gromar dead did not go missing first

killed in on his property Michael David Hicks that's the one she said reportedly died from perhaps substance abuse or cardiovascular issues connected to morbid obesity no no connection of missing there Frank Mywald sounds like we know the least about his death, 61, but no indication that he went missing before dead. Amy Eskridge, self-inflicted gunshot wound, no, no indication she went missing before dead.

So no. I think the answer is no on almost all of those. Interesting. I find it fascinating that, you know, among our listeners and audience, you've got, and Dan, you're painting to us right now, You've got a pretty even divide between people who think this is nothing and those who think you're being naive if you're somewhat somewhat, I guess, in any way dismissive. YouTube. Eric David says, have to have tangible evidence to prove anything or else it is just hearsay. I agree. I agree.

Some of them are weird, but that's what you're having to work through here. It's not tangible evidence, yeah. I'm going to go back to this in a second. Lama's drum. Lama's drums, Lama's drums. McCaslin and her are in a bunker somewhere. They disappeared on purpose, all planned, and others didn't disappear fast enough. Okay.

There's a lot of affirmative statements in a bunker somewhere. Okay. Probably. I can't. I can't just. You've never heard of maps. You got Patrick with you. Probably, he says.

Yeah. Well, there are tons of underground places all over the country, so. be anywhere. There you go. That's all you need to know. Okay, look, I am very suspicious. Let's go with 11. I am very suspicious that any of these would have connection to something larger. Amy Eskridge, Michael David Hicks. Carl Grimard as well, although I think more questions need to be asked about Freddie Snyder and his motivations, his alleged murderer. I need to learn more about Melissa Casillas and Frank Mywald. Those two, I don't know. In the maybe bucket, two missing people to me, Anthony Chavez and Stephen Garcia, okay? I think those deserve,

like, don't put those in a bucket, learn more about that. With Stephen Garcia, Lauren mentioned suspicions of mental health issues as well. Well, knowing that about Amy Eskridge, where the family is saying that, and she's on video, and I've seen some of her videos is one thing. Just hearing that about Stephen Garcia is not quite enough. I need the evidence to put that into the factor. And then definitely suspicious, Monica Reza and Neil McCaslin. But Monica Reza is so suspicious that it's like, it's suspicious.

on all levels. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. If you were going if you were going to off somebody you know, that's a weird situation to be able to do it in. On a hiking trail in a 60 second window where her hiking partner is around the corner or a little bit ahead

that's not... Okay, then you're like what you should be beamed up by aliens you know? Do you know? I mean people disappear in National Parks? Every year. Yeah, I know. Someone standing next to them or behind them? No, I don't know. No, I don't know actually. I say I know, but Hundreds of thousands. An animal?

Mountain lion, maybe? No, it's not hundreds of thousands. It is definitely not hundreds of thousands. You can look it up. Look it up, Dan. How many people go missing? Tens of thousands? Boy, I hope it's 100.

No. A lot. It's not hundreds or tens. I'll bet you it's under 500. Doesn't maintain a, the estimate suggests several hundred to over a thousand individuals. go missing several hundred without going over not hundred thousand

one dollar bob I should have gone a little lower thousands that's a big jump hundreds of thousands of thousands of people every year go missing in national parks did you realize that they're virtual societal black hole they're black holes

the government would be in on that are you telling me hundreds of thousands of people go missing on government property, aka National Parks, and we're just doing nothing about it. We're all just moving along. Like, nothing's going on here. Hundreds of thousands.

I mean, at this point, if hundreds of thousands of people going missing at Yellowstone National Park, I'd be looking at the Buffalo. Like, are they really Buffalo? Or are they government contract killers inside Buffalo costumes? Like what?

And why are people in the woods? There's people being like. There's experience. experiments going on on underground bases at Zion. This is back to your tunnels, yes. Oh, man. Hundreds of thousands of people at National Parks. Take a couple of zeros off that and you're good.

A bunch of zeros. A bunch of zeros. Yeah, well, that's pretty, I don't know, I think it's pretty enlightening. I think this story is where I thought it was going into. this, and that is I think this is more is being made of the story than the facts can support, and more is being made of this story than logic would lead you, not just facts, but common sense and logic would lead you. That being said, that does not suggest that there is absolutely nothing to this story.

It means that you focus in on what I would say is that between two and four cases and research and get more information on those to see if those in any way have any connection. Neil McCaslin, Monica Reza, Anthony Chavez, Stephen Garcia. Those are the ones I'm most interested in in learning more about. And we'll continue to look into this. We were going to talk about a couple of other stories today, but I think this episode is dedicated to this story, which there's a lot of public interest in.

And I think we've got a lot of deeper information today. Go ahead, Tinfoil. Real quick. So the whole thing about the guitar is for Blink 182, he's obsessed with aliens. McHaslin was his inside guy for decades. His inside guy on aliens?

What do you mean? He was his inside guy. Yeah. Like he's been talking about disclosure of aliens for decades. They even have songs about it going back to the 90s. That's why he left Blink 12. Well, yeah.

He's like obsessed with aliens. And like McCaslin was the guy leaking information. Why was McAslin why was McCaslin linking to Blinket 182? I don't. know what I don't know what to tell you. You're going to have to ask Tom.

Tom DeLong loves aliens and loves the stuff. He loves aliens. So he must have found him and started asking him questions. They sparked up a friendship. I'm saying this guy's been connected to aliens for decades. Blink 182 or McCaslin? Both. Angels and Airwaves. Yeah, I mean, McCaslin's in the bucket of things of ones that I definitely think needs a lot more research. In fact, that's what I would do. I would focus in on McCaslin. I would focus specifically on learning more about McCausen. From there, you can see if he had significant relationships to these others and the circumstances around his death. Like, connect just two cases to start. Try. I think that would be the next move. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

I want to talk about the Washington Commander's new logo. That was actually one of the stories I was most interested in today, but maybe we could do that tomorrow. They put the, They put the arrow back in. They put the spear back in and some of the... It looks awesome. Native American groups, it looks so much better. And it just, you know, man, the thing about this is, you know, I know how this is going to go. If you put this on social media, there's going to be all these, you know, Native American social media accounts are going to go after or whatever.

The truth is these are interest groups. These are interest groups whose grievance gives validation to their own existence. and does not accurately represent the wishes and the desires of American Indians. Does not. American Indians, every poll shows, and most anecdotal conversation that you're going to have, actually liked the concept of the Washington Redskins, that it was their favorite team. Among Indians living on reservations, it was the favorite team of American Indians. And they took that away.

The Native American activist groups and, of course, the white guilt and identity politics people out there in the world. And they took that away. And now all you're adding back in is the arrow or the spear, under the brand commanders with the same colors. And oh, my God, we're not going to be your mascot. Dude, I accuse you of nothing short of erasing Indians' important history. And I mean that. You guys know this important contribution to the history of this country. You are erasing them.

why for your own power under the banner of the grievance industry that's all this is and then your useful idiots who are doing it for their own virtue look at me i'm so virtuous this is this is not appropriate by that account the chief should be gone too it's the chiefs the braves do not they already took the cleveland indians and turn well fight guardians is terrible name talk about my teams i know explain why fighting irish is okay but this is not explain that. As we know, the Irish were extremely offensive.

Yeah. People did not like them for a very long time. Is there any Italian sports teams, nicknames? There's not. Just Rocky Balboa, the Italian stallion? Who's that? No, I'm just kidding.

There's got to be some AA baseball team that's Italian. Yeah, the Mobile Guidos. If you did. You can't say Guido. is you're using like, you're saying silly ones. Like, what's offensive about Braves, you know, or Chiefs? Nothing.

It's honorific. They've been trying to get Seminoles gone for a while. But the Seminole tribe, the Siminal tribe's in on that one, right? The right ones. That's what's protected them. That's the ones that went crying down, yeah, to Oklahoma. Wait, wait, if this is true, the New York Mets double A affiliate is going from the Rumble ponies to the southern tier spicy meat to balls.

So there you go. I don't believe that. Really? That's what I'm reading right now. I don't buy that. That's fake AI. Hallucinations. All right, that's going to do it for us today here on Will King Country.

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