Will Cain Country - Something Has Changed Between Men and Women in America (ft. Tyrus & Wade Stotts)

Episode Date: September 29, 2026

Something is changing between men and women in America — and the divide may be bigger than we realize. Will Cain sits down with Tyrus and Wade Stotts to unpack why so many young women say men are th...e source of their problems, how changing expectations around work, marriage and raising a family have reshaped relationships, and whether society has undervalued some of its most important roles. Plus, the guys debate masculinity, modern culture, Miss Rachel, what happened to the American “rebel,” and whether being a winner is finally cool again.   Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews⁠) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The captain of the football team is back. Losers were in charge, but now the world belongs to winners. Houston, we have a problem. The problem is that women seem to think men are the problem. Plus, Miss Rachel, Lindsay Clancy, and more with Wade Stott's and Tyrus. It is Will King Country. at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Always here. Hit follow, please. That's Spotify or on Apple. The host of Planet Tyrus and Coast of Gutfeld, Tyrus, and the host of the Wade Show. With Wade, Wade, Wade Stott's hanging out today. What's up, boys? I don't have a beverage to cheers.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I'm sorry, fellas. I am on, you know, Will's show, so, you know, never make the guests comfortable. A beverage of water would be nice, but that's fine. It's fine. Nobody there's taking care of you. I'm slacking.
Starting point is 00:01:22 No, no, not you. You're the anchor. You're holding this down. You're on the ones and twos. You're the guy who makes the... I mean, they got 30 floors of people in New York City and they can't get you a beverage. There's a lot about the show, Will. It says a lot about the show.
Starting point is 00:01:35 It does. Because I'm telling you right now, this is Planet Tyrus. None of you would even be booked. So you guys are always too busy for my show. But it's all good. It's all good. Oh, it's no. No, I don't think that's true.
Starting point is 00:01:47 No offense, but it's different from Planet Tyrus. I think it's more I haven't been an expert on the subject matter at hand. I mean, whether or not that's Bigfoot or, you know, who built the pyramids. Oh, but you're an expert on women blaming men for their problems.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Absolutely. Yeah, okay. Absolutely. I think my genre is safer for me to go home at night. All right. Let's see if we can send you home in trouble. This is where we're at, boys. According to a new survey,
Starting point is 00:02:19 that men, Republican men in particular, blame women for their problems at a level of 26%. That's in the 1829 age group. So 6% of Democrat men would blame women
Starting point is 00:02:35 for their problems. 26% of Republican men would blame women for their problems. Okay, one would think, that's not good. Well, Republicans seem to have it out for women. Oh, but not until you hear the rest of the story.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Look how young Democrat women feel about men. 18 to 29-year-old women, 66% blame men for their problems. Among Republican women, it's 18. But young Democrat women, 66%. It only drops slightly with age. Once you get to the 30 to 49 age group, it drops to 54% of Democrat women, 50 to 64, 47% of Democrat women, 50 to 64, 47% of Democrat women. women say you are the problem, Tyrus, you are the problem.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Okay, well, first of all, out of that 66%, how much of that is actually datable? Yeah. That would be my first thing. The other thing is, of course, Republican men, we don't need to use the term Republican will. Men with jobs. That's the ones they're mad at. Men with jobs. Of course, Democratic men blame women for their problems because they have to wait for the
Starting point is 00:03:45 women's payday because they live off women. Republican men have the jobs. We earn the bread. So, of course, we get blamed for everything. You know what? And we're fine with it. You know why I will? You know why, fellas? Because we don't have a problem with accountability. And I guarantee you that 100% of that 66% is allergic to accountability. Well, I'll just say before we get to you, Wade, that we could run a small focus group here, just the four of us hanging out.
Starting point is 00:04:17 We could just run a small one. No, no. We don't want to do this because he knows exactly where this is going. I know where it's going. Oh, we can. We can. We can. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I can't speak to Wade's wife and I don't really know about Tyrus's wife. I can speak to my wife and I have some little birdies that give me some indication and clues as to Dan's wife. So, Dan, are you the source of her problems? It seems like it would look like that from that chart because she's a Democratic woman. No, I'm not asking you to read the chart. He's answering the best that he can. Do not badger the witness. You're in a professional environment.
Starting point is 00:04:57 We are all professional talkers. That was a bad political escape hat you tried to pull. Are you the source of your wife's problems? I can be, yes, sometimes. But not all of them. How about that? I'll answer it. I am 1,000% the source of all my wife's problems.
Starting point is 00:05:16 She'll be happy. to tell you. One thousand percent. Doesn't matter what it is. Now I'm going to suspect all roads lead back to me. I'm going to suspect up there in the white supremacist compound alt-right confines of the woods of Idaho. You are not a good focus group, Wade. You've got you've got a trap one. And you do no wrong. It's a fair point. Yeah, I know. My wife's never been upset with me about anything. But my, my, uh, my, uh, I do have, uh, four young boys and they're all, they all look a lot like me. So my, my, my, the question about men more generally, my wife probably, uh, many of her problems do stem from, uh, men named Stats who look like me. Uh, but, you know, as far as,
Starting point is 00:06:00 uh, the general state of men, I don't think my wife would be, uh, say that men, in general cause most of her problems. Just ones a look like me. You know, when you combine this poll, when you combine this poll with increased polarization of young Democrat women, which we've seen that poll in the past. We've talked about how they've become radicalized for all the talk. By the way, for all the talk of all right men and all the talk of men blaming their troubles on women, the charts just keep telling us it's the opposite. It really does paint a bleak picture of the future. Now, the question is, do people change? And is this just the way people talk when they're young? Or do they grow up, get less radicalized, and stop blaming their problem on other people, regardless of
Starting point is 00:06:42 gender, and just start accepting life. Or, Tyrus, do they just keep dodging accountability? I think that would depend a lot on their life journey. You know, if blaming someone else for your problems is beneficial. So if a woman, you know, because here's the thing, men don't, men fold, men change, but men will also camouflage themselves for a woman. A man who knows nothing about astronomy will fall in love with a woman who's in astronomy. Are you talking about me? And he will literally be like, yeah, astronomy. I study you often.
Starting point is 00:07:16 He will hide his flat earth beliefs for her. Because men will change and adapt because you want to win the women. Women typically don't have to win men, so they really don't have to change on their stances. But I think if somebody blames men for all their problems, and they have some sort of success with it, then probably not. But most people find out usually the hard way. Life has a way of evening things out
Starting point is 00:07:42 that the person you need to blame for your problems and your choices is the one the other side of the mirror. Hard for some people to do that. You know, I think this ties into something that it caught my attention. So this woman's name is Helen Andrews. And she was on a media enterprise entitled The Unheard. And I've seen this woman, up from times of time.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And I think she's an anti-feminist. I'm not really sure, but I've seen her pop up from time to time. And she's always saying something, you're like, whoa, all right. Then I heard her say this recently. And she was talking about America and where we are when it comes to this thing with women and men. And her point is pretty basic. It's just that you can put a value proposition on it. You can call it good or bad.
Starting point is 00:08:34 But make no mistake, we are in. unchartered territory historically. Listen. America is one of the most feminized civilizations ever to have existed. It is simply a statistical fact that many important institutions tipped over to being majority female in the last 10 to 50 years. And that statistical tipping point amounts to a unified phenomenon because it is widespread, simultaneous, and unprecedented.
Starting point is 00:09:05 widespread in the sense that it's not just law schools that have become a majority female, it's law schools and rabbinical schools and the New York Times and managerial positions in the economy at large. You see it everywhere, this demographic feminization. It is simultaneous. It all happened in all of these different places in the same 10 to 15 year window. And it is unprecedented. There is simply no civilization in history where the majority of judges, magistrates, interpreters of the law have been female. That is just, that is a revolutionary. So, she said, just no, look at Tyrus.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Put his glasses on. I had to put it on. We had some tech. We had some tech issues, but. And clutching your heart. My chest. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:54 These, I see, I live, I have a hope. I'm a superstitious man. And there's certain things, you know, like, and don't think we're not going to talk about your rangers. not making the postseason. That's going to happen. But yeah, thanks. Okay, well, we can do that because I have a question for you guys on that. But here's the thing. When I see women say things like this, and there has been a huge influx in the workforce, and a lot of that is because of, unfortunately, not merit. The DEI during the pandemic was very successful. White men and heterosexual men in particular were targeted, not hired.
Starting point is 00:10:36 with this idea that it was somehow making things better. I don't think, I think we're not seeing that in the workforce at this particular point. Is that because it's unqualified women and people who wouldn't have got the job if they were going head to head with somebody, regardless of sex? I think that's more the answer. But I also think, I don't think that's the mindset of America. I refuse to believe what I see on social media in TV represents our country. I think for the most part, men and women respect and love each of,
Starting point is 00:11:06 other and they do want to work to do, you know, everyone takes on a job because there's still the hardest jobs in the world. We know who are doing them. There's not a whole increase in bricklayers and construction workers and miners and oil wellers and all the stuff that requires to keep this country going, infrastructure and whatnot. That's still a man-dominated industry and it's not because they're men, it's because they're doing the work. And some of it physically. But I don't really don't put much weight into, you know, women taking on more office jobs and things like that, I don't think anyone has an issue with that. And when they say civilization, it's not like there's a group of men sitting around going like this, like how do we stop this? We don't care in America
Starting point is 00:11:46 who gets the job, as long as you do the job. How you pee, sit up and stand down. That's not me. Okay. But I'm going to do my best because I think this is so fascinating that I think putting any kind of value judgment on it pollutes the conversation. So everybody runs to, Is it bad? Is it good? I don't care. It's not about that. It's not bad. It's not about that. I think what she's saying is true. And I think it's a 50, basically a 50 year enterprise. It started in the 1970s and it's been on a upward slope over that last half century. And it may have accelerated the last 10 to 15 years, which she referenced and you referenced Tyrus, which may be attributable to DEI or some other effects. But I think the arc of study on this has to be longer. It has to be about. a half a century where this has really begun to happen. Because if we're being honest, and again,
Starting point is 00:12:39 we're not, I'm not, y'all can. Because I just don't find it helpful for the conversation in the beginning to say good or bad. Prior to this, whatever we call it, the women's lib movement or the feminist movement, there were things that kept women out of the workplace. And we can call those oppressive. But I'm just going to avoid all of that stuff right now. I'm just diagnosing. So there were things that made it so wasn't the case. Now, and by the way, those things, existed pretty much time in memoriam, right? Like, those were a constant for thousands of years. And then it switched 50 years ago, and we arrived where we are today, where, yeah, I mean, managerial positions of businesses, judges, lawyers, anything you say, outside, to your point,
Starting point is 00:13:22 Tyrus, of blue-collar jobs, white-collar jobs. Education, we know college is like 60. It's not quite 60 everywhere, but it's north of 50 is women, 50%. Um, And I think that it's just worth noting and just starting with, and I think this is her point. She actually, at least in the clip I had, Dan, was just a little bit longer. All she said was, that's radical. Not radical good, not radical bad. It's radical. Like, this is way different than how we organize societies for thousands of years.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And I think we have to start from that position, Wade. We have to start from we're kind of in uncharted time. territory. Yeah, Helen Andrews wrote a great piece in Compact magazine. I think it's called the great feminization, and she sort of lays out the dramatic change that has happened, the timeline, and how quickly it has accelerated again in the last 15 years. What we shouldn't do, what I don't want to do is necessarily say that, so the people who are wanting this, who have advocated for this and have been pushing for feminization in workplace and in the legal, system, et cetera, or in the medical profession, all of those people are saying that they want to do
Starting point is 00:14:40 that because it will change the nature of those professions. So the people who are, they're saying that it will make our court systems more compassionate, it will make our care more compassionate, that the nature of the system will change as a result of more women in the workplace. Wait, just as an example of that, that's Barack Obama last week saying the world would be better off if every world leader was a female. Barack Obama said that last week. That's the mentality you're talking about that is arguing for the good in this.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Right. And so Andrew's point that it is a radical change. We should at least recognize that we are running a big experiment. The people who are advocating for that experiment are saying that's going to change. I think it's okay for people who may have second thoughts about it, may second guess the decision, to also say that it does change the nature of the system.
Starting point is 00:15:32 the people that you put in and the women and men are different as we started out the show. And if you have a system where in which a lot of the people who are graduating from these colleges and going into these professions are more aligned with the Democrat Party, they blame them for their problems. It does start to change at some level the nature of what decisions are made in these kinds of situations. And Andrews does, in her piece, at least say that things like the judge, like, being judges, being lawyers, that sort of thing, that that is a radical change and that it also the way that men and women think differently will change the nature of the system, and she does think that it will be in a negative way, and I agree. Okay, but before, I want to get you back to the entire hours, before the negative, again,
Starting point is 00:16:21 because I think if you have this conversation and you give the value judgment, people think you start with the value judgment and then work your way backwards into the analysis. And that's not what I want to do. I just want to acknowledge the analysis because I think that's historically fascinating. Is there another matri- if we said the United States is moving towards more of a matriarchal society, is there a historical parallel? She said no, kind of, right? Is there one way?
Starting point is 00:16:44 Can we go back in history anywhere and find the best parallel? Certainly not at this scale. A society that's sort of built on complex systems has not been run the way that we have it. So if you find patriarchal systems, the kinds of things that people would write about in sociology textbooks, those tend to be smaller, and they tend to be run. Right. Villages and tribes and that kind of thing. A hundred people who all know each other and are somewhat related. And it has to do a lot to do with wisdom and age.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Because most societies are founded strength by strength first. And men have cornered the market on that one, evolutionary-wise. But what I think, Will, what you're trying to do is admirable. But I think we can say that it was, when you say good or bad, I think the real problem, if you go back to the root cause, I don't think it was bad for both men and women when some genius came up with the idea that a homemaker somehow was less than a man who went out and worked. Yes. They still say it that way. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And the most important job as we are learning when we look at the deterioration of young people and fatherless homes and all these things, when you had a two-parent family. when you had somebody home, the work was better, the kids were better, the economy was better, everything was better. But somewhere, some person, group of people got together and thought it would be better to have two people working. And then all of a sudden we had to rely on education to take care of our children. Preschool to take care of our children. Instead of saying the most important job in America was the state. at home mom. She was the one who the kids were safe. The kids were fed well. The kids were educated. The father would go out and work and he would work for who? Who would he bring that paycheck to?
Starting point is 00:18:43 His wife. He honored her taking care of his home. That home cooked meal is, they don't call it meals. They call it home cooked meals because it's better. You know why? Because it's sprinkled with love. And you had admiration. And you didn't have the domestic violence that we have today. So, When our society decided to inject sexism into the homemaker and the family, a one-car family, that's what changed this. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back with Tyrus and Wade Stots on Will Kane Country. Welcome back to Will Cain Country. We're still hanging out with the host of Planet Tyrus, Tyrus, and the host of the Wade Show with Wade. It's Wade Stats. When did it switch? So you're being a draw...
Starting point is 00:19:28 I believe 100%. That I'm happy to pass the value judgment on that. Meaning I'm happy to leap forward in that. I 100% agree with you. Perhaps the most important job in society building was denigrated. And we said was beneath you and was not up to your capabilities or not the best way to use your skills and what you have. And that is the saddest thing that I think has ever. And to your point, Dan, they still say it, look, my wife has been a stay-at-home mom for,
Starting point is 00:19:58 whatever, what are we looking at? More than 20 years now, 20 years, roughly. And she still's like, oh, you know, is this what I should have been? Yes, there's nothing better. There's no job out there that would have been better than what you spent your time doing. Here's a simple question. Let me ask you, let me ask you question, Will. Would you be where you are today if your wife did not take care of the home and take care of you?
Starting point is 00:20:25 Your success is her success. No. See, like right now we're trying to have a kid and we talk about this. Who's going to stay home? What's going to happen? How's this going to happen? And it's a very hard conversation to have because neither. Both of us have, you know, pretty good careers.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And so it's a tough conversation. And there's no like back in the day. All right, yeah, I'll stay home and do this and blah, blah. And that's it. But here's a thing. If let's say your wife is a doctor and you want to have a family and the man saying, I'm going to stay home and be the caretaker. take care and protect the children and make sure the home's good and have her set up for every bit of success.
Starting point is 00:21:02 That should be met with the same admiration. But it's not. You are suddenly, you are, you're basically a eunuch. Right. You know, because that part of our society has, and I don't, it's really. So at large, child rearing became denigrated. Yeah. Raising your own children is a problem because you think sending them off to daycare is a good eye, is what's best for your child.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Right. And it's not. Yeah. And I think it's also a part of the general trend towards specialization. So like you've got you've got women who have these kids and they feel unqualified because, oh, I don't have a degree in child development. So I need to send somebody out to that. Or I don't have a, I'm not a professional chef.
Starting point is 00:21:43 So I shouldn't be able to cook in my own house. And so you've got this general feeling that you're inadequate if you are a generalist. If you have a bunch of different tasks that you're good at and you're not sort of sharpened to one point. In the older system, what happened was, yes, the man was the one. who could be specialized and the women were the ones who were the generalists. They were good at cooking. They were good at taking care of kids. But if everything needs some kind of qualification.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Absolutely. And if people need degrees or something like that in order to feel like they're qualified to do anything, then yeah, that does stop a lot of people from taking responsibility for their own kids. One more point on this. So I am trying to stick with this. The only point I'm making at the current moment is the same one Helen Andrews. And I think that's really a place you have to start.
Starting point is 00:22:31 You just go, whoa, when you step back. We are in a revolutionary period. Now, how will that turn out? And I can acknowledge the answer to that may be better. The answer to that maybe it's going to be great and it's going to be better. Like that's a potential possibility. But also the possibility is it could be way worse. And then you start, we actually have some evidence.
Starting point is 00:22:53 We're not starting from scratch right now. We've got 50 years worth of evidence. and, you know, Tyrus has started to rattle off some of them, you know, anecdotally, but we know some results. And there'll be positive ones, too. There are positive results we can rattle off. There are negative results we can rattle off. But, you know, the rise in single family homes, to your point, Tyrus. I mean, I think you have to consider the rise in child.
Starting point is 00:23:20 And there's going to be other correlating factors like social media and so forth that rise in childhood depression and childhood. know, suicide and a lot of things like that. Yeah, the tablet's taken over the role with dad. Right. Or mom. Either one. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:37 So we have some evidence of what it's done to the family unit, to what it's done to that cornerstone of society. And then Helen Andrews makes the point. And what you're saying, Amindigo, Wade, is we are also beginning to accumulate evidence on the professional side. Is it making, and this isn't an indictment of every woman. We're playing on averages, right? And like tendencies. And it's like, is it better that our judicial system is more compassionate?
Starting point is 00:24:05 That's like a legitimate question. Like, is it better that we have cashless bail? Is it better that we're more apt to give probation? Is it better that we have recidivism putting guys back on the streets because of the beliefs that they can be rehabilitated? Whatever. Like, these are characteristics that have come in over the last half century. Are they good? No.
Starting point is 00:24:26 I'll say it. No. And I'm also the same guy who wouldn't be sitting in his chair if he didn't have a wife who took care of the home and the kids. I wouldn't be. But at the same time, her work day is longer than mine in a lot of cases. And it helps me do, like Mike gets me prep for stuff and, you know, whatever. So, but emotions in the courtroom, no.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I'm actually looking forward to an AI judge. Just the facts. No, just the facts. I don't want to, you're going to let, you have two, you have, a judge is overseeing two cases, the same murder, and one is a, a poor brother like me, and the other one is Will Kane. And his sentence is four times longer than mine because of the way I look. That's bullshit. Like, I, just the facts. Guilty is guilty.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I don't know about the AI judge. I can't wait for it. I just want a computer. Here's the, here's this, here's this, here's this. here's this, boom, it comes out. It's not going to be like, I don't like the fact that he had a hat on in court. If the law, if the law were simply math, I would be with you. But it's not. I mean, that's the concept of a judge. It's like, what is your judgment? And judgment is based upon wisdom. The one thing that AI doesn't have. It can have intellect. It can have data. It can have information. But it doesn't have wisdom, which only puts the impetus back on the people we endow with positions that require wisdom. And that's, that's the point. And maybe that. By the way, by the way, way. I am literally coming at this. I'd be curious what the comments are saying, Dan.
Starting point is 00:25:59 I'm literally coming at this, trying to be clinical. Like, I'm not, this isn't, women shouldn't have positions in the workplace. That's not what this is. This is like on a mass societal scale. Is this a net positive or a net negative? This person, bogey scooter, says, stay-at-home mom here. No man in my life has ever diminished the importance of what I do. It's always other women. mean girls being mean, tails as old as time. A thousand percent. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I agree with that. Yeah. Hey, there's one here. This is Tyrus, stay at home husband. I would, one, hey, I thought that was my plan after I got done on my athletic career. Yeah. I had no problem to take homeschooling the kids and taking them to their appointments. And, you know, my wife wouldn't let me cook for her.
Starting point is 00:26:43 But, like, I would try. Like, it's the role. It's taking the role because your family is the most important thing in your world. And that's what cracks me up when people. like that's supposed to hurt my feelings. If I'm a stay-at-home dad, that means my wife is kicking ass. She can sit in his chair. I'll 1,000% stay at home.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Do you think women change their mind when they're dating and then when they actually have a kid about that stuff? Like if they would stay home or not? A lot. I think it changes. A lot. And especially with a man because if you're dating. Not everybody, but a lot. If I was dating, say I decided to stay home and leave my career.
Starting point is 00:27:15 My wife works. Right. And people see that as a stigma of a man staying home. But if I said that while dating is there in a true? attractiveness factor where the woman wouldn't want me to say that or do that because they see it a different way? I don't know. So I think people change their mind. Okay, the tough part and- Go ahead, Wade. I was just to say the tough part as we're thinking about this, we have to also think about like if we look back in history. Like that's the question that Andrews is bringing up. Look back in history at any society that we would like to be more like, including our own a few decades ago and back at its founding.
Starting point is 00:27:48 If we look back and we admire the fruit of that kind of civilization, we should also recognize, okay, maybe we maybe the stuff that we can't necessarily draw a straight line. I can't necessarily draw a straight line between stay-at-home moms or the kind of family culture and the Constitution or the great political thinking that was happening, the great cultural stuff that was happening. It's probably, it depends on your instinct. Is your instinct to just go, well, I can't draw a straight line, therefore I should throw it out. and it's sort of, I can excise that. Or is your instinct to go, I don't know, maybe we should just try to take the whole thing and be really, really cautious
Starting point is 00:28:24 about playing with the kind of foundational insides of it? And I think that's sort of a baseline difference in instinct. My instinct is to say, like, let's look back and go, okay, the good stuff that was coming out of this period, can it be divorced from that? I don't think so. I'm going to do a thing. Fox Digital is doing it, a series.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I'm going to do a series on the television show as well on Miss Rachel. And my kids are too old. I wasn't familiar with Miss Rachel, but I've gotten to be familiar with her. For anybody who's not, Miss Rachel is a highly, highly influential children's YouTuber. She's the modern day Mr. Rogers. But she's also radically far left. It's a genocide in Gaza. She is reparations.
Starting point is 00:29:13 She buys into every race hoax. currently on Nolan Wells, the kid who drowned in Mississippi, according to a grand jury, saying that it was a race murder. She believes all of the suicides and murders where black people have been found hanging from trees in the South are actually murders, like race murders. She's doing all this stuff publicly. Carol Markowitz wrote in Fox, it's interesting. The Palestinian flag has become the catch-all symbol for all of these issues.
Starting point is 00:29:42 It's weird. And Carol wrote because it's not ever about the cause. The cause is not the cause. They are only about the revolution. So the causes move. It's climate change one day. It's Gaza the next. But it's about the revolution. To the point you're making weight, it's like it doesn't matter what the vehicle is. And it kind of doesn't matter if we can project what tomorrow will bring, but we have to have a revolution for this thing that we have today. Which I think a lot of us would argue is the best thing. we've ever had in humanity. Yeah, to your point, and to Markowitz's point, I think that there was a recent one where there was a data center protest
Starting point is 00:30:24 and there was a Palestinian flag there. They're anti-data center also like this tree. They all get their stuff from the same truck. Yeah. The same search. Yeah, the same merch truck. You know, I've had the, I walk out of Fox.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Sometimes I walk through the protest crowds. Amazingly, they never bother me. But I happened to, it was one particularly, they were particularly more fired up than normal. And they all had, they all had Palestinian flags. And I turned the corner and I see this little guy with a table with flags and signs. And they were like, eight bucks apiece. And I was like, where do you get this stuff?
Starting point is 00:31:03 And he's like, I get it at the port. And then they sell them and they all hand them out. Capitalism, baby. Yeah. It's not like they. And here's the thing to the. You know what I want to Tyrus. Is he down for the cause?
Starting point is 00:31:14 He's down for his. They're protesting capitalism, and he's living in capitalism. Because if it wasn't for capitalism, they wouldn't have their flags. It's phenomenal. I think it's ironically phenomenal. But I have to push back. How dare you? How dare you use Mr. Rogers' name anywhere near that charlatan who only use?
Starting point is 00:31:35 And I don't think as many children watch that as we think. I think adults do. I think they put it on. But here's the deal. I would love for her. and I think we could get a fundraiser together for her to do her show live from Palestine and see how long it would go.
Starting point is 00:31:53 And all the flags you want, you know, and I'm sure her and wear the outfit that you would particularly wear, your bright pink shirt and your headband and stuff, put some makeup on because they love that over there, and just see how well-received you really are. Because the thing is, it's not just the revolution, it's proximity. It's so great to act to be an activist for something that you are nowhere near physically, mentally.
Starting point is 00:32:23 It is the safest thing in the world because there's no argument. There's no danger. And it's just annoying to everyone else. She's not protesting something she actually can have a conversation. None of them is. If you ever go to these protests and you pulled somebody aside and say, how so? And then they post democracy now. They know what they would do?
Starting point is 00:32:45 They would look at me and say, you racist bastard. I'm like, is it the Scottish side? I mean, is racist? Or the Jamaican side? Which one is it? It's just because of the camera. The worst thing that has happened to us is the camera. Because we would not know who she is.
Starting point is 00:33:05 If she was not able to be on you, no network picked her up for a reason. Children show like, you don't got to do it. much to get a children's show. Well, now because why, she's controversial, but who's picking her up? It's like the networks keep running AOC is going to be president. How many laws has AOC passes she's been in? We're all tied with her. She could co-as to show with the Palestinian Rachel Dullazole.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Exactly, which is not fair to Rachel Dolesal. I pushed back because Rachel was getting brothers into college. Yeah. She was actually doing a wonderful job. I miss Rachel. I didn't have a problem with Rachel. She wanted to identify as a black woman And she was helping black kids get into college
Starting point is 00:33:46 Go to town I put her on the cover of Jet Magazine Let her have it Let her have it Let her have it Let her have it Let's say a quick break. We'll be right back with Tyrus and Wade Stott's on Will Cane Country.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with the host of Planet Tyrus, Tyrus, and the host of the Wade Show with Wade. It's Wade Stats. Speaking of transracial, help me sort this out. I will not. Here is Elliot Page on the cover of New York Magazine's Men Style Edition, a special issue about putting clothes on and taking them off again. I don't know. That's what I want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:34:30 This is Elliot Page. Obviously a female, but transitions, male, men's style issue. Shirtless, chest-beard. What's the standard here? Is that?
Starting point is 00:34:47 I just, all I think about is pepperoni pizza. I'm sorry. I will say this. She's not a man. Wait, wait, wait. What if Elliot hadn't had top surgery? Well, she wouldn't be on the cover of men's magazine. She'd be in the centerfold.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Right. But the thing is this. The thing is this. Well, men can show their chest and women can't. Because we told the women. But she's a woman either way. Yeah, she is. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Here's the thing. This is why I have a problem with the media is so ridiculous. And the magazines, look, magazines are dead anyways. But Caitlin Jenner, who I consider a friend, when he received the woman of the year for was a Globe magazine, I-Espan, wasn't it? ESPN gave him the S-B award, I believe, the Arthur Ashe Award. Okay. It was some fancy magazine that gave him Woman of the Year. And I even asked him on my podcast, I said, is that, do you think, when he was.
Starting point is 00:35:51 of the worst things that happened. And he gave it back. Because he's a trans woman. He's not a woman. And his issues with what he grew and he decided to be who is, he doesn't necessarily want to pass it on anyone else. He is not a woman. He is a trans woman.
Starting point is 00:36:09 There's a reason why you put trans in front of it. You want to be a trans man. That's fine. That's your business. But you don't represent men. You're not a man. And they keep doing this shit for reaction. and it's just and nobody is looking at that saying I want that's a man no one is they're looking at
Starting point is 00:36:27 going oh that's going to piss men off because you're well right and so if it's not a man why but this is why media is dead can you go bare chested they have no credibility because she had her chest augmented sculpted to look like a man's chest and in our country men can bear their arms and their chest but we hold women's body sacred So a woman... But if it's a... No nipple. I'm just saying...
Starting point is 00:36:54 There's no nipple on there. It looks like... Elian identifies as a man, but hasn't had the surgery. The standard should be the same. There should be a huge set of boobs. A huge set of boobs right there. Anyone who ever got a spanking for the Playboy magazine underneath their bed will strongly come out and disagree with you.
Starting point is 00:37:11 You could have the Arnold Schwarzenegger magazine all day in your house, and there was no whoopens going around. There's... And I still think that's important that we... do hold women's body sacred because it goes back to the whole thing. There are mothers. There are wives.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And I think we should respect their body. This to me is just, this is what, this is the issue in the first place. Severe attention seeking. No accountability. And this just perpetuates the worst in human behavior. On a scale of one to ten, how attracted to this shirtless woman were you, Wade?
Starting point is 00:37:49 That's a loaded question. No fair. I think it's okay to say zero. You should know better. No, I, it's so strange. I wish, like, I feel sorry for the young guys who, like, are having their tastes in women shaped by this sort of thing. And the young ladies who are trying to figure out, like, what's going on? Or shape that they don't like guys.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Yeah, what's going? Like, they're just going like, well, I guess I'm not attracted to the sort of cover model for New York Magazine. I must be gay. I don't know. Like, what do people think they are? It must be really confusing to be a young person right now who's just sort of a way. to the fact that there is an opposite sex. Well, like I said, I want to know what Elliot's done.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Is Elliot just eating right? Look how chiseled. She is. Look at the jaw line. Look at the zero percent body fat. That's tea. Like, is this, is this cosmetic work as well? Or is that just eating right?
Starting point is 00:38:38 I think, I think, I think she's on the gas, Briss. Yeah. What do you mean? Gear? Testosterone. Test steroids? She's on the juice. Testosterone.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's doing it. I can see what you're doing under there. I can see the bouncing. She's on the grizzle. She's on that she's trying to get right. Is that what I need to look like you? Yeah. Oh, a lot of hours in the wait room. But like I said, it's a woman. And she obviously has some issues. And exploiting that for gain and attention, I think, is wrong.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And I think if you were. Totally. If it wasn't so selfish about her and she, she was really thinking about young people who have that dysphoria. This is not the answer. And they don't care. I mean, it's just, but this is Hollywood. I mean, hell, they're going after Chris Hansen to catch a predator. They made a movie where they're saying he was the predator.
Starting point is 00:39:36 The guy from Twilight. Yeah. Right. Yeah. He was the predator. Not the guys who were showing up to dittle and murder children. Yeah, or Lizzie Borden or Ed Gein or. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:46 And they even said, like, and some of them never even touched. child. No, because Chris Hansen was there. Because he stopped him. Sorry, I'm getting fired up. So, Tyrus brought up the Rangers and men to go.
Starting point is 00:40:03 And I'm, okay, Wade's a Mariners fan, by the way. Manors didn't make it either. What an absolute collapse of the Meritans, though. Should I go do that for it. Yeah, it was a very typical Mariners. This is going to seem Dallas-centric, but it's not. I'm just going to use Dallas because I think
Starting point is 00:40:21 my four teams give me a good dot experiment. That was a tough time. Here, I have four teams in I have four teams in Dallas. Tell me which one of these profiles you prefer as a sports fan, okay? Profile one.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Conference finals, four years in a row, try not to use the word so you don't know what sport it is. I don't think it matters. Doesn't matter. Stanley Cup final once in the last 10 years. One at all, 25 years ago now. But every year in it, one of the three, four best teams in the league, always chance, but falling short year after year after year.
Starting point is 00:41:01 That's Profile 1, Dallas Stars. Profile 2, Texas Rangers. In the last 10 years, one season above 500, one and one at all. One at all. One the World Series. Great team. One at all. One season in 10 years, you're above 500.
Starting point is 00:41:17 profile three that's texas rangers profile three make the playoffs more than half the time lose one or two one zero or one games into the playoffs that's the cowboys okay which one of those profiles i'm going to leave the fourth one out for now because i think it it pollutes me and i'll get back to the mavericks in a second but which of those three do you choose to root for now i'm not asking you to pick the rangers the stars or the cowboys
Starting point is 00:41:47 If your team that you look for I'm a Boston fan So it's very similar Which one? I have a very similar to me. What is it? I honestly I would go
Starting point is 00:41:55 It depends on your love And who you are as a person Because when I love my Red Sox When they were the most embarrassing team In the league in the middle of year I didn't miss a game Like if you're a diehard fan It doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:42:07 But if you're a bandwagon fan You'd rather have that one year It depends on One in 10 years One with the World Series If you're a bandwagon fan wagon, fan because you jumped on and you can hold on to that. But if you're an everyday roll up your sleeves, die a little bit every time they
Starting point is 00:42:24 lose like Will does, Will's still not right. He needs the blood transfuses for what, you know, seven seconds. Damn, man. The Ravens of all people, of all teams. But like when you're a diehard guy, you're in it to win it. And you are. You're a diehard. You would not, I know you.
Starting point is 00:42:40 You would rather see your team almost make it every year. As a Yankee fan, we do. Yeah. Well, stop it. But we haven't won it a long time. You haven't, and I'm very proud of that. And I'm hoping that continues starting tonight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:55 But we made a horrible. The Red Sox we put. What lasts longer joy or pain? You know, so like stars, stars profile year in, year out is more fun. Every year I know they're going to be in it. Every year there's going to be playoffs. Pain is every year. Pain is the best part of being a sports team, Will.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Agreed. Will, I went to school. I went to school Friday before the Patriots played the Bears in the Super Bowl, and I saved my allowance to get an Andre Tippett T-shirt and wore it on that school bus. Do you know what my Monday was like and how long I had to wait until the Lord sent us Tom Brady? But every year, I'd be on the plane. I'd be in a school. I'd see another guy with a Red Sox hat, and I'd be like, oh, man, we suck this year.
Starting point is 00:43:43 You know, that's right. And that's how you made your best friends. misery with your sports teams is the great. I'm with you. When you finally win, you high-five it is great, and then you go, you love to say, well, we're going to go, it's back to normal. Like, he's a real Mariners fan. He's like, we had a great season, and then we went back to normal.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I will go on a fight so with that guy. Before you go, wait. Ben, you guys, they leave. This is why I left the Mavericks out of it, because the Mavericks for me might be the perfect formula. Especially, I'm talking about it was six, seven, eight years of being one of the three, four best teams NBA with Dirk. I'm talking about it with Dirk.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Yeah. And close and close and fail. So when they finally won it in 2011, that one felt. Any of the hardest road to win it. Yeah. Right. And the reason the 2023 Rangers felt so good is because of the failures in 2010 and 11, right? It was connected to teams that.
Starting point is 00:44:36 There was none of the same guys on the team, but it was connected to that. So my thing is, Wade, like if the stars ever get over that hump and win it all, it will be in that best bus. It will surpass the Rangers most likely. You need the lows. But that's also because you've done the work. You've been there for the agony of defeat to quote the great ABC sports. I'm dating myself. But you have to, it's like anything else.
Starting point is 00:45:01 This entire episode is about accountability. It's all about accountability. Well, yeah, Mariners have never even been to the World Series. Are the only MAA team who has not even been? So, like, I think the greatest moment in Mariners history is 1995 when they made it to the ALCS. So this, I think that's, I think Mariners fans are the kind of people who are always just expecting right around the corner that it's going to be the year. And I think that's, that's a really fun place to live. I also, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Hey, last year with Toronto, that was a hell of a series, man. I mean, that literally came down. Like, I, I'm not, I'm not, I had no, I had no hat in it. But even my heart hurt a little bit for you guys. It was such, I was like, we need one more game. You know, it was just a great series. I think it was eight outs. You guys had great teams and great players.
Starting point is 00:45:52 You had Ken Griffith. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, like, I mean, in the, I think the, Randy Johnson. In the Eichiro years, each year's first year, they, they won 116 games, tied the record with, like, the 1909 Cubs or something. And then, like, didn't even make it past, like, they won one game in the championship series.
Starting point is 00:46:10 So it was a, it was a, yeah. That's the fun, though. Baseball and hockey, Will will back me up on this. It's not the record. It's who's hot. Who gets hot. You got to go. Whoever gets hot.
Starting point is 00:46:22 That's the Rangers in 23. Yeah. Yeah. And I think it might be the raise right now. Yeah. Well, and by the way, for the record, nobody would pick the Cowboys. Scenario. The blank slate team that the Cowboys have been for the past 20 years.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Speaking of winners and losers, all right, I saw this. I wanted to play this for you guys and see what your thoughts are. This is Gavin McGinnis. Gavin McGinnis is one of the founders of Viya. I got a funny Gavin story. He's my neighbor. Gavin is a, I don't know if he still is. Proud boy, right?
Starting point is 00:46:51 He actually references it in this clip. I don't know how much you kept to this clip, Dan. I hope you kept most of it. Because I think this is a really interesting analysis of basically society, the 90s, the 2000s, and where we are now. Go ahead. What happened in the past 20 years is we let the nerds take over. And it started with grunge.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Grunch was cool. It had balls. Like, you didn't want to fight Nirvana, especially that giant Serbian bass player. And then that led to indie music. And in the mid to late 90s, all of a sudden, it was cool to be a loser. And Radiohead had, I'm a creep. I'm a loser. Beck had, I'm a loser baby. Why Don't You Kill Me? You had really ugly, nerdy comedians like David Cross, Patton Oswald, Louis C.K. It was cool to be an underdog. And when I was in high school, the sort of, cheerleader football player thing was fading and it was cool to be the Zit remedy from Degrecy Jr. High or Ducky from 16 candles. But anyway, it was cool to be a loser for a very long time. And Trump came along and said, yeah, we're not doing this anymore because he's really into winners. Like if you win a game of darts, he wants to talk to you. And he's into meritocracy and that means a total lack of shame. So I'm driving a jet ski. I'm chiseled. I have a mullet and
Starting point is 00:48:11 wraparound shades and my chick behind me is topless. And that, especially being Canadian, like that was verboten. Like if you show up in a Ferrari right now in Bushwick, you're a legend. If you showed up in a Ferrari in Montreal in 1995, people just laugh at you. You're a loser, Guido, like cheeseball. And Trump came along and said, no, you're not. It's awesome to have a sports car like that. And so as Steve Bannon would say, they're not going to give it up without a fight. The losers are apoplectic right now because they've been running the show for 20 years. That's why proud boys were so vilified because they were just dudes. It was Animal House.
Starting point is 00:48:52 It is Animal House. And that Animal House wasn't reigning Supreme. It's ironic now that Animal House are sort of seen as the jocks, whereas they were the nerdy underdogs back when the movie was made. I find this fascinating. What do you guys think? I'm just going So Gavin doesn't like me Huh
Starting point is 00:49:15 So he used to do Yeah When I first came on the Greg Gutfeld show He was a guest And They were all of a sudden Apparently They were vying for the third position
Starting point is 00:49:26 On Greg's show As to cause I didn't know I was even up for it I just showed up, did my thing and left Lo and behold Fox offered me a contract To be on the Gutfeld show
Starting point is 00:49:36 Because I was B'blin awesome I did not know that Gavin Newsom was, or Gavin McGinnis, sorry, it looks to say, got cut out. And he went on Twitter and he's like, really, you gave it to the black wrestler? Wow. I'm done with Fox News. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:53 So, yeah. So his little, he got very emotional. And he said some things, but I always, I always laugh. Like when you win in, it's hard to be offended. But I don't, I disagree with everything that he's saying. It's not the nerds that took over. It's not that. It was progressives and the elite took over.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And the elite wants those soft-minded individuals. They want to push. They want the participation trophy up. But I think what he would say to that is the definition of elite changed. If you go back to sort of the 80s and the early 90s, the elite was defined by people who were successes. And then it switched to where the elite was defined by people who, yes, maybe, by the way, had the degrees and the credentials and that type of thing. The elite liberal. But they were the losers.
Starting point is 00:50:42 No, the elite liberal likes man buns and soft minds and uneducated and emotions and unaccountability. Regular, the conservative elite, he just wants to make money and build his, he doesn't care who does it. He doesn't care how you do it. And he does it with bravado. But there was just more, there was more of an audience. The Jerry Springer audience is a lot easier to get control of of guys who work 60 to 70 hours a week taking care of their families. You know, they're worried about what's going on their household. So, and again, it goes back to the camera.
Starting point is 00:51:14 The camera started giving a platform to people who couldn't possibly actually get on TV. And the performative mail. Yeah, it made the rise of that. That's what this exactly is. Attention seeking became more important than actual accomplishment. Let's say a quick break. We'll be right back with Tyrus and Wade's thoughts on Will King Country. My name is CIA, and I live in the most crucial.
Starting point is 00:51:39 beautiful place on earth. Seven months ago, I blew up my life, and a lot has shifted since then. Everyone is moving forward. I'm still working on that. And that's me. Welcome to Ice Cove. Where are the penguins? That's Antarctica.
Starting point is 00:51:58 We're the other one. North of North. Stream all episodes. Available on CBC Gem. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with the host of Planet Tyrus. Tyrus and the host of the Wade show with Wade. It's Wade Stats. Yeah, I think it's for a long time in American history, the way that people showed that they
Starting point is 00:52:19 were the ones, they sort of got attention and said that they were the ones in the right cause, was that they proved that they were the rebels or they were the underdogs. And so there's just, I think, been for the last hundred years at least a kind of wrestling over the definition of underdog, who's the real underdog? And so what a lot of times, so at one point you go like, well, the real underdogs, yeah, it's the animal house guys. And no, the real underdogs are the nerds. And no, the real underdogs are the sort of gay, trans, whatever history they have with slavery, whatever. And you've got like, okay.
Starting point is 00:52:50 And then so everybody's wrestling with that. And then at one point, at some point, actually, it makes it really difficult to be just a regular American person. And so, like, the American, the kind of guy who just wants to live his own life, becomes the underdog. And then that is easy. That's the kind of force that Trump grabbed on to was. just people who wanted to live normal American lives were then perceived as the guys who needed to fight back against the kind of the overlords. So that's, I see that as a kind of constant wrestling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I think that that's, that's, that's always the position. Everybody wants to be the underdog because that's just, that's just how you look cool in America. That's how you look righteous and good. It just happens to be true this time around, I'd say. And the anti-hero. Well, was Trump the underdog or was it just an awakening?
Starting point is 00:53:38 Yeah. I don't know if I felt like his underdog. But was it just Americans that, you know what? Enough of this. I feel like, I think the average guy. I feel like he was raging against the machine. He was raging against the machine. The machine that was COVID, the machine that was censorship, the machine that was, you know, anti-racist.
Starting point is 00:53:56 It was he was representing a, which turned out, it's like, you know, the famous George Will quote is Fox News. Roger Ailes discovered a wonderful niche, half of America. Trump, and I think this is kind of what you were saying with, Trump discovered the majority of America was being put into the underdog position and he could rebel against the system and he represented them. What an electoral victory. I get the majority and they've been oppressed. Well, he and Trump himself. Yeah. Well, and Trump himself got thrown every single thing that the left could throw at him. So every position of authority, the courts, literal people being shot at, like, in. being shot out a couple of different times.
Starting point is 00:54:39 The, like, even Russia Gate, all the, everything that they could throw at him, the fact that he was still around and was still a political force. And people saw, yes, they see themselves not only as the guy who's been kind of pushed down, but the guy who has had everything thrown at him. The way that he marketed himself was, like this is like they're not, they don't hate me. They just hate you. I'm in the way. And that, that is true.
Starting point is 00:55:01 And that's at least how people saw him enough to vote for him in 24. I agree. I wonder if I take what Gavin said and what you said, wait, about the rebel concept. I mean, I don't know, because you could go back to the Ramones singing about, I want to be sedated. Where the rebel became a loser. Instead of the rebel being, you know, a revolution. I don't know if revolutionaries is the right word. Instead of the rebel fighting for himself, he became someone who gave up.
Starting point is 00:55:34 It's like his rebellion became his own. self-destruction. His whole argument has holes in it. You can't find toughness in music bands. Okay, he's mentioned in Nirvana and he said their bass player was tough.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Before that, you're going to tell me that Kiss was tough? I mean, when they were makeup on, they were scary. Did you see the first video of them with their makeup off walking down the street and their high heels and spandex? Like, it's never, musicians have never been tough. Like, that's never, like,
Starting point is 00:56:07 There was the one jack saxophone guy in the movie in the Tina Turner band. But that was pretty much about it. Yeah, Danzig. Yeah, I'll give it to them. Yeah, but like, let's be, poison was tough. Chili peppers? Chili peppers? They were small.
Starting point is 00:56:22 He wore teddy bears on his pants, Will? Anthony Keats. Yeah. Oh, I just remember him in point break. He's pretty jacked in point break. He's a little smaller than you. I'm terrified of him. I might even get out of the chair to hit him.
Starting point is 00:56:37 It's just no one has ever, ever told a story about a lead singer in a rock band beating up the crowd. They had bodyguards for a reason, Will. Like his whole thing is if your reference, if your reference for badassery is musically based. Axel Rose is going to do that. That's probably why you didn't get the gig. Tyrus. Who'd you work for, Snoop? Yeah, Snoop.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And it was the reason. ever did you ever work for or around Tupac? No, it was before me. But for when I understand, Pac was worse. I would never have worked for Pock.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Because Pock had the unfortunate overconfidence that he could fight. So he would start shit. He tried to beat up MC Hammer. MC Hammer whooped his ass like he owed him money in a music studio. Oh, no. And they made him finish
Starting point is 00:57:36 song, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Well, the reason I ask you about Tupac is because if you guys have seen the videos for, I've always been curious about this, you ever seen the audition videos or the videos from when he was in drama school? And he's a totally different type of guy. He was a backup dancer for Digital Underground.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Humpty dance. He's in the back. If you see, if you see the video, he's kind of feminine. And so it makes you wonder. And that's okay. Yeah, okay. And so was it an act? The whole thug life thing, was it an act? That's what got him killed.
Starting point is 00:58:06 being something you're not and associating with real gangsters, they're playing for keeps. They like you because you're famous. You're not one of them. And then when you're not useful to them or you're a problem, you're like, yeah. Let's play this. Turned up.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Adam's 17 years old. He's lip gloss. Do you like being 17? It's like 17 is such a weird age. It's such a in the middle age. You're not 18 yet. You're older than 16s. But I like it. It's nice. It's like a learning stage for me.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Do you wish you could be 18 and when you get some more rights? Well, 18 will bring lots of responsibilities that I don't want, but it'll bring respect that I feel like that's the only way I can get it. You know, I try to be as mature as I can be. Listen, he is one of the greatest poet rappers of all time. And he was taken away from us way too soon. but I would never ever, ever categorize him as tough. Diddy?
Starting point is 00:59:11 What about him? Well, it depends how much smaller you were in Diddy. But again, his name was Diddy for diddling, not ass kicking. Like, we need just like, when you look at the music, hey, you tell me one lead singer right now, if Justin Timberlake kicked in your door, would any one of you jump hide under the desk? Like, oh, hey, the Backstreet boys are here. Oh, hey, where's Tyrus line up? 50?
Starting point is 00:59:37 50's a little bit different. But 50 also, he also acts. He is what he is. I mean, the brother was shot. He's lived that life. He's legit. James Hatfield. From the McCoy's old. James Hatfield.
Starting point is 00:59:53 There was also, they carried pistols. No, Metallica lead guy. You know what? Kennedy doesn't like him, so I don't like him. Josh Hamey is pretty badass. from Queens of Stone Age. Yeah, you know, I'm looking at some of these comments. But what are they saying? In the meantime, Wade, what do you listen to?
Starting point is 01:00:10 What are they, the compound in Idaho? He was not feminine. He just looked that way. Is that a comment? Is that a comment? Yeah. Yeah, there's a, there's a, I have sort of regular old boomer music tastes. My dad's music taste just got handed directly down to me.
Starting point is 01:00:34 So I like James Taylor. I like Paul Simon. I like that sort of world. Blues, old blues stuff. You know, Taj Mahal. I'm big into that stuff. Old men, old men who are slowly dying off. That's my genre of music.
Starting point is 01:00:49 I'm big, like I said, I listen to all my stuff, but like I got hooked on Led Zeppelin. I had never heard it. But then I realized pretty much every rap song I grew up to was sampled from Led Zeppelin and David Bowie. Yeah. You know, and like, here's the thing. Music is music.
Starting point is 01:01:05 And if you are stupid enough or ignorant enough to base your music on the color of skin, the person singing it, or whether they're tough or not, because I'm telling you now, breaking news, they're not tough. There's a whole bodyguard industry for a reason. But good music is good music. And I listen to a lot of country. I listen. My playlist is insanity because music is the one thing.
Starting point is 01:01:31 thing that connects to everybody. Because if it sounds good and it feels good, and you can relate to everything. It's just, it just when you, when you, when you were young, we're dumb. We, like, I only listen to rap. I don't listen. And I only listen to West Coast rap.
Starting point is 01:01:45 I didn't listen to the East Coast. I was in my thing. If it wasn't E-40 or Pock or Eminem or Ice Cube or I left, when NWA broke up, I went with Cube. So I don't listen to NWA. You know, but like, and then all of a sudden one day you're in the car, going to college is great because you're with a bunch of different guys and you're making a road trip
Starting point is 01:02:04 and someone puts on Wayling Jennings and all of a sudden you're like, what? My mama. Best country song. This song is great. You know, like, and the next thing you know, you go down that, you go down that. By the way, I don't think I'd want to tangle. I wouldn't want to tangle with Wayland back in the day.
Starting point is 01:02:20 He carried a pistol. He carried a pistol. Willie, on the other hand. Yeah, those Outlaw guys were best when they. No, West Coast Rap was a rap guy. People don't know that. Will it was super into rap. Oh, yeah, I was. I know who he's telling. E-40 is Oakland. Two shorts, Oakland. M.C. Hammers, Oakland.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Yeah. I don't know what Tupac is because he claimed a couple of different areas. He was from New York, but when he got in death row, when he got in Shug, they just changed his. He jumped into something that he never should have. He just should have stayed at Town. The only East Coast guy, the only East Coast guy that I ever really liked was. was Biggie. I liked his vibe.
Starting point is 01:03:03 But the rest of the East Coast rap was too fast. Oh, Karras One. You know what I mean? You know, Keras 1 had some... That's old stuff. Oh, yeah. Old as A. But what the West Coast brought in...
Starting point is 01:03:13 You ain't listening to nothing new. This chill vibe, right? Yeah. I liked that. You know, that's what I did. I dug. Yeah, Biggie, but when you hear the lyrics, it wasn't very chill. Just because he would be half asleep when he was rapping.
Starting point is 01:03:28 He was the only dude I ever saw. He'd be out of breath on an interview. Go back and watch he did. He would start talking. You'd be like, someone get him some water. Does he have asthma? He needs a CPAP machine. He has, how do you have sleep?
Starting point is 01:03:51 He has sleep apnea when he's awake. Rest his soul. You know, who's... Have everyone of his hours. Big X... Wait, I feel like we've left Wade away behind. DMX, yeah. Biggie. Hey, is...
Starting point is 01:04:07 What about Big X the plug? Is he the modern day Biggie? There is no modern day, Biggie. There's no... There's no... Those guys. That's like saying modern day... Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I like Big X... No, no, no. He's fat-tacular. I'm not saying he's on Biggie's level. He's a biscuit... He's not. And Biggie was... You need three Biggies.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Like, he... He's rapping to his own He needs to have a song called Take the Shot. Like his rap song, his new album should be Take the Shot. You can even make GP1 cool. Take the shot, brother. Like, I'm not a big dude. I'm telling people to take the...
Starting point is 01:04:41 If you want to be around, he makes big pun look hungry. He's 6-400 pounds. Yeah, that's not good. That is dangerously unhealthy. I went to a restaurant. They had a margarita called... They had a margarita called the GLP 1. I'm like, what is that?
Starting point is 01:04:57 Margarita. Can you guess what the GLP 1 margarita is? Is it a skinny margarita? It's a skinny margarita. That's right. Will loves those. Well, you know, ever since he started bodybuilding again, he's vascular. Hey, look, by the way, last time since this is it's on, hey, the guns are, oh, okay, you've been doing work. You've been doing work. All right. He's getting right. I went this morning. I was there this morning.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Yeah, as soon as I'm done with here, I'm going. All right. All right, you go to the gym. Wade, thanks for enduring the rap talk. I know that's not. That's not right. down your fairway. Hey, I loved it. It's great. Learn something new. I got a little shank into the woods. We played out and got back to the green.
Starting point is 01:05:36 I'm going to send you a playlist, man. It was always good. I'm going to get you in. I'm going to get you in the game. Do it. Check him out of the Wade Show with Wade. It's Wade's thoughts. And Planet Tyrus, what are we going into next?
Starting point is 01:05:46 Not Bigfoot again, is it? What is it? No, no, no, no. Actually, I got Eric Bischoff on today. We're going to talk about all things with... Oh, WWB. Or not WGB. We're talking about his stuff and what he's doing now with the amateur.
Starting point is 01:06:01 RIF? He's RIF. Yeah, he's RIF. He's an amazing entrepreneur. Awesome. So I'm excited to talk. All right. All right, check out Planet Tyrus.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Thank you guys. We'll see you next time. Listen to ad free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcast. And Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show, ad free on the Amazon music app.

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