Will Cain Country - Starting The New Year Off w/ Tony Robbins
Episode Date: January 1, 2025On this encore episode, Will and Tony Robbins share their thoughts on manifesting destiny, changing habitual patterns, and the effects of social media on mental health. Tell Will what you thought... about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Happy New Year and welcome to 2020.
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As we approach a brand new year, sometimes we make plans to make a brand new you.
I'm going to tell you something.
There is one guy that has a long history of helping people along on their path to a better
version of themselves.
He is Tony Robbins.
A little bit earlier this year, we spoke with Tony Robbins on the Will Cain Show.
He is the number one life and business strategist, peak performance expert, and number one, New York Times bestselling author, global entrepreneur and philanthropist.
And he is in our studios in New York City.
He is Tony Robbins.
What's up, Tony?
Hey, well, nice to meet you, buddy.
I was thought they were punking me.
I was an empty chair here I was going to be talking to.
I didn't know where you were a different location.
I am so disappointed as well.
But as much as I wanted to meet you and in person, I've had the opportunity to speak to you through the camera lens once before, but to meet you in person, I had to stay married.
I just spent the last five days in Las Vegas, Nevada, which on its face is a bad thing to have done in a marriage.
But it was for the Super Bowl.
I need to come home.
I needed to be with my family as much as I wanted to meet you, Tony Robbins.
I've got a lot of want to talk to you about today.
Can I start with this?
Sure.
You have earned the right throughout your life to impart wisdom and advice on millions in this world.
I'm curious, though, as we sit here in the present tense today, where do you struggle?
What is your personal struggle?
What is your biggest struggle where somebody could, should, or would offer you advice?
I think time is still the final frontier for me personally.
And the reason is because, you know, I have 114 companies now.
we do over $7 billion in business.
I come from absolutely nothing.
And I love the variety of that.
But I also have five kids and five grandkids.
I have a 48-year-old daughter, and I have now almost a three-year-old daughter.
So I think time is that final frontier for me, and I'm always figuring how to crunch it.
But just I'm polled to many different things.
I have lots of interests and lots of things I do in philanthropy, and all of them really matter to me.
So I think that's probably the single most challenging area for me personally.
You know, Tony, I mentioned it.
you could probably hear my introduction in leading into this interview. I'm not going to say
this is what, this is the piece of content that really won me over with you. It's not,
you know, I've been aware and won over to Tony Robbins for quite some time. But, you know,
I saw this video, Tony, of your interview that she just did in the past month or so with comedian
Theo Von. And I love Theo Von. I think he's hilarious. But you were talking about, and you said
specifically, hey, I'm not necessarily someone who believes in positive thinking. I believe in
intelligence, I think was the line that you gave him. But as an illustration of the power of
perception of not subjective reality, but how you take in objective reality, you told him to close
his eyes and look at everything in the room that's brown. And then you brought in everything in the
room that's red. And there was something about that. And maybe you can share that with us here today,
Tony, they just made me realize, like, it's how you internalize objective reality that
creates your own reality.
What I try to tell people is we don't experience life.
We experience the life we focus on.
So what's wrong is always available.
So is what's right.
But I'm not in just being positive.
I believe you've got to see things as they are, but not worse than it is.
Most people today make it worse than it is.
There are young people today that have been sold this idea that in 12 years the world's
going to end because of climate change, which we all know is bullshit.
But when you hear it over and over and over again, now people are not having children because of it.
So I think you've got to see it it is, not worse than it is, because we make it worse than it is, people do that because they're afraid of getting their hopes up being disappointed.
But then if you're a leader, you've got to see it better than it is.
You know, the Bible, it says, without a vision, people perish.
You know, it's good advice.
You have to have a vision beyond the now.
And then you have to make it the way you see it, which requires strategy, not just positive thinking and enthusiasm.
If you're running east looking for a sunset, I don't care how positive you are, it's not going to work.
he got the wrong strategy.
So with Theo, though, it was interesting
because he's such a funny and beautiful young man.
And I felt like it was like my son there
because, you know, he's got a lot of pain in him.
A lot of comedians do.
Not all of them, but many do.
And I found him myself doing kind of a little
mini intervention on him.
And what was amazing is people sent me responses,
you know, on YouTube, which can be mixed, obviously.
And there were so many young men that feel like he do,
that feel like they're not enough,
that feel like they don't have a place in the world
that feel like, you know,
if they get too happy,
they're afraid things are going to fall apart.
And so it was really interesting for me to see how many people were touched by that conversation
who were his followers, which are primarily young men, as you know.
And there was something about that particular.
And look, Tony, you know, as I sat and thought about our conversation today, I thought,
like, what's new under the sun for Tony to talk about?
Like, there's not a pitch in my arsenal.
I can throw him that's going to get by.
It's not a pitch he hasn't seen.
He's got every curveball, every knuckleball.
He's seen every pitch.
He knows what he's going to say.
but what was it there was something about that illustration you gave to theo would you for my audience for this audience and i know it doesn't take long but what is that about how we see things in a room well i was it's not so much room i was just giving an example i said you could do it right now your viewers or listeners if you look around the room you're in right now and look for brown look for everything that's brown brown clothing brown hair brown people brown anything
look behind you look around you look above you and then close your eyes and then tell me everything you saw in the room that was red
Usually, there's a little laugh when I do this in a public market, you know, 10, 15,000 people.
And I'll say, open your eyes.
Now look for red.
Look for red.
Okay.
How many found, you know, more red this time?
Everybody raises their hand.
Well, why?
Because seeking, you shall find.
You will find things even if they're not there, I'll tell people.
And they look confused.
And I'll say, how many saw beige things called them brown just to feel successful?
How many saw something burgundy called it red?
So whatever your brain is looking for, you will find.
Whatever you believe, so is it done unto you, quotes in terms you and I would both relate to as Christians.
But the bottom line is.
is it's true. Once you believe something, you find evidence to support it. If you think somebody's
a bad person, you'll color them from, you know, brown to, you'll take the beige and make it brown.
If you think somebody's a good person, you'll turn it around. Like, look, for example, if your best
friend treats you really terribly one day, you know, you will feel sad or angry or hurt. And if
you can't resolve it, you have to go to a phone call or you've got to go to a meeting. You'll
usually rationalize their behavior, right? You'll usually say, well, they're probably having a bad
day. But if you go to somebody who you think is, you know, a mean, manipulating person,
it may not be true, but it's what you believe about them. And they don't treat you badly.
They teach you real nice. What's the first question in your mind? What do they want? So our
relationships, our life is controlled by our beliefs. Our beliefs color what we see and don't
see, what we experience and don't see. So it's really important to question our beliefs at times,
to not just accept what you've been trained to believe
because our culture, we have perfect examples, finance.
So many people in this country, young people think we have a terrible country.
Well, I was in the Soviet Union when I was 23 years old.
I was brought over there because of what I was doing at the time.
I traveled the whole country.
It made me a capitalist.
I didn't know what a capital was for that.
But everybody's supposed to be equal.
And there was no equality.
I was on these trains going from literally Moscow to Siberia
with all these high-end people that everybody's supposed to be equal.
And they're having caviar.
and we'd stop in every little train station, get out in the city,
and there would literally be half a mile,
quarter of mile people wrapped around these buildings
so they could get in line for a quart of milk and a half a loaf of bread.
And so it's like, I came back and said,
you've got to become, if you live in a free enterprise country,
you've got to do it.
So most people in this country who hate this country
or want the government to pay for everything,
which, of course, it can't.
It's already broke.
They don't understand the opportunity.
Their problem is they've been trained to be a consumer
instead of an owner.
I was trying to explain this the other day to a young person, and I said, do you have an iPhone?
And by the way, do you have an iPhone?
Of course.
Yeah.
So most people have one.
I said, okay, so you have an iPhone?
Have you bought several iPhones?
I said, yeah.
I said, well, I've been around and a lot.
I bought every iPhone.
So if you bought every iPhone since the first one in 2007, you spent $20,600.
That's the amount you've put out of pocket over that time period.
Now, if you bought the stock, hear me now, you took the same amount of money you spent at that time for the iPhone.
And I went back and made a chart so people could see.
see it and bought the stock. Today, all that adds up to $206 million. So it's like,
no. Yes, that's the real number. That's the real number. So we just don't teach people.
We don't teach people to question their limiting beliefs, and we don't teach them beliefs that
empower them. So what if you believe you find evidence for it? How else can you explain all
these young people who are pro Hamas, not pro-Balstanian, pro-Hamas? They say, you know,
words are destructive, words are violence. I mean, you know, talk to Chris Rock and he said,
words aren't violence.
Words are violence.
No one has slapped the shit out of you
on national television, right?
So it's like, so, but, you know,
those same people, someone is cutting somebody's head off.
I mean, I hate for any side, Palestinian or Israeli
to be injured or hurt.
I mean, to me, it's horrific.
But, you know, we have these interesting beliefs
that we develop because we develop, you know,
an ideology, and it limits us.
And what I try to do is get people to say,
I don't tell people what to believe.
I get them to question anything that's limiting themselves.
and perhaps see if there's a more expanded perception.
I think that's what's missing in our country.
We don't have much of a middle right now.
We have extremes on both sides.
And I think most Americans are in the middle,
but they don't have the voice.
They don't speak it up.
I'm hoping that'll change over the next few years.
Hey, Tony, do you feel like you're swimming against the current
when you sell people this idea or help them understand the idea
that there's a way to see the world through a different lens?
And that lens tends to be more positive.
What I'm wondering about it is,
are we inherently culturally, or maybe even as human beings, attracted to negativity?
You brought up climate change a moment ago, and young people attracted to this idea that's a
dystopian apocalyptic future.
One of my favorite authors is Matt Ridley, and he talks about, like, hey, reality is
the world has gotten better over a broad timeline.
Your life has gotten better.
Poverty has gotten down.
Your health has gotten better.
But what sells in the news, and then what sells in a worldview, is negative.
And it makes you wonder, like, are we not naturally or culturally attracted to this apocalyptic future?
And you, for example, then, are swimming against the tide, swimming against the current to tell people, no, that's not actually an inevitability.
You're absolutely very astute.
It isn't just the culture.
It is the way we are wired as humans.
We have a survival brain.
And it was designed millions of years ago.
And it was designed so you could immediately find anything dangerous to survive.
So you'd either fight it or you'd freeze and hope it didn't notice you.
or you'd run, you'd flight.
Those are the three choices.
Well, most people have not evolved very much from there.
There's no Sabre Tooth Tiger anymore,
but we have that reaction to what does somebody write about us in social media?
Do we have enough money or something that isn't really survival?
And so the negative bias, that's why in the news, you know it, journalism.
Journalists are great people.
The media, like when I say this, people say, no, they're not.
Yes, they're good people.
They're doing their job.
Their job, the majority of them is for the shareholder.
The way you get the shareholder make more money is you get more eyeballs.
We're not an information society that died a long time ago.
We're drowning in information.
We're starving for wisdom.
But what gets, if it bleeds, it leads.
So they know that if I can get that headline,
even if it's not the same as the article itself, right?
What is clickbait?
You click on it and I get paid.
So that's the unfortunate part.
Then you have social media that just everyone has an equal voice,
even not everyone is equally qualified to talk about something, right?
So the combination of those two has changed our society to such a negative bias.
But that's true.
That negative bias isn't everyone.
But that doesn't mean you have to live that way.
It'd be natural to, you know, drop your doors and go to the bathroom wherever you are.
That's the way it's done in some countries.
But, you know, we don't do what everybody else does.
We culture ourselves.
We raise the standard beyond just the fear-based of our brains, and we develop a different level of consciousness.
So, yes, but most people come to me when they're hungry.
You know, people come and look at the demographics, and they see every age, every background.
You know, I just did a seminar for 1.1 million people for four days in 195 countries, all over the world simultaneously.
in every time zone. And it's every walk of life. But what they all have in common is hunger.
So people come to me when they're the best at the world because they're looking for those
little things. They know if I make this little change, just 10 degrees, but I take that
at a week from now, a month from now, six months from now. I have a different destination, a
different result, a different destiny. Other people come because they had a birthday with a
zero on it, or they went through a divorce, or they lost their job, or they've been doing
the same thing forever and they're great at it, but they're bored out of their mind.
And so there's a hunger to change.
Without the hunger, most people are never going to interact with me.
And then when they do, I do things in deep immersive.
I don't do something for 30 minutes or an hour and try and pump somebody up.
Even my books are ridiculous.
You know, they're five, six hundred pages.
But people get pulled into them.
And when I do seminars, they're 12 hours a day, four or five days in a row.
These are people that wouldn't sit for a three-hour movie someone spent $300 million on.
But when you think about time, time is emotion.
How long is a long time?
And when you're hating what you're doing, a minute's eternity.
When you're loving what you do, time flies.
And so I've learned how to engage people in a way where they enjoy themselves while they're
transforming instead of like it being a pain.
And that's really why I've been able to do this.
I'm entering my 47th year doing this.
I do believe I started when I was three, of course.
But you get the picture.
Well, I've gotten the picture.
And here's, again, and we're going to move on to talking about finance and investing in
just a moment.
But I just kind of personalized this with you, Tony.
And everyone, I'm sure does.
but like my own lens through which I come to appreciate what you have to say.
First of all, I love what you had to say about information.
Look, we're awash in information.
And I actually think we are, we are, every intelligence in its truest sense is readily accessible all around us.
That doesn't mean we make intelligent decisions.
But what we are impoverished at is wisdom.
And that's making sense of everything around us, both past, present, and future, and all of this information.
And you, the wisdom that has, you know, I grew up here.
appreciate this. I grew up, I think, with one of your friends. He is, he was, he was,
somebody I spent every summer with his children are my good friends and we just partnered
together on a fund to help raise money for the people that were, that were devastated in Lahaina
Maui. But I grew up with Wayne Dyer and I know that you and Wayne knew each other well. And by the way,
and I would say it to Wayne's face back then. I was like, oh, come on, manifest my destiny, Wayne.
You know, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to, the power of positive thinking, you know, and he'd
laugh, and he was a great guy.
And when you talk about habit, and those, gosh, is it nine kids, who are all really close
to my family to this day.
But, you know, when you talk about habits, you talk about it, Tony, in a language that makes
sense to me, like the habit of how I think about my day, you know.
I made one of my New Year's resolutions to get up every day and, you know, meditate and
reach out to someone, which, by the way, I'm not going to pretend like I'm super succeeding at
all of this, but I need to build the habits. And there's something like functional and
understandable about making this type of thinking a habit that has essentially compound interest
in my life. Yes, it builds. Well, you know, I'll give your viewers and listeners maybe a chance
to consider it. Think about it this way. I'm pragmatic. By the way, I have very strong
spiritual beliefs. I don't think there's a separation between those personally. Everything in the
world is spiritual. God is a part of my life in every way. I feel I'm only here because I've been
blessed. I started with absolutely nothing. I've done my part, but I could have done my part and not
been so blessed. I don't take that for granted ever. But from a pragmatic perspective, if the
quality of our life is what we focus on, then I tell people, there's three decisions you're making
every moment. And your audience can ask themselves, is this happening right now? Every moment of
your life, you're making three decisions. You're not necessarily making them consciously, though.
And because of that, we make the same decisions over and over, and our life doesn't usually change.
So the first decision is what are you going to focus on? So at any moment, whatever you focus on,
If you make it to 7 p.m. have dinner with your wife or your boyfriend or girlfriend or someone, and you get at 7 and they're not there, I'll ask people, what are you feeling? And some people go, I'm angry. And some people will say, I'm worried. And I'm going, it's only 7.30. What if it's 7.30 or not there? Now, I'm really angry. What if it's 8.30? They've not called. They're not text, not showed up. I'm really angry. One woman said to me, I'm full. I didn't wait for the bastard. But the difference between whether you're angry or pissed off or worried has nothing to do with life, objectivity. It's what you did in your head.
Let's take a quick break and continue this conversation in just a little bit with Tony Robbins on The Will Kane Show.
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We're hanging out with Tony Robbins, bringing in 2025 and revisiting a conversation we had with him a little bit earlier this year.
This is a big issue in my life.
I am much more fulfilled when I have control, even if I fail at that control, than when I am out of control.
So as far as my focus, it's probably on obtaining some measure of control because the out-of-control focus is so unproductive for me.
And I hate the way I feel.
it's the source of most of my unhappiness.
Well, it's true for most people, because all the research shows,
the more you feel in control of the events of your life
versus your events are controlling you
directly affects to your level of happiness and self-esteem.
But the majority of people, and I think you'd be different in this area,
most of the people who come see me,
they come see me because they want to take control of their finances
or their business or their relationship or their body
or their energy or their happiness, right?
So I tend to bring those people in.
But think about this.
If you're constantly focusing on what you can't control,
what kind of stress you?
you're going to have inside? And if you're adding to that, you're not, but people add to that
what's missing. And then here's the third one. Do you tend to focus more on the past? Everyone
listening can try this, the present or the future. We all do all three. But where do you
spend more of your time, focused on the past, present, or future? What would it be for you?
I heard you do this with Theo, and he said the past, and I was riding along with this
decision tree with him, and my answer is different. Mine is on the future. And you can add
mine up there. Mine is focus on what I don't have.
focus on the future and focus on how I can obtain control.
And you just describe the core of your personality in three areas of focus.
And by the way, yours is very proactive.
It's an achiever orientation.
That's why you've achieved.
Someone is always focused on what they can't control.
There's so much we can't control in our lives.
You can't, listen, you think you're in control?
Your brain doesn't even control your bowels if you go to Mexico and eat the wrong food.
I mean, let's be honest, right?
You don't have full control in this life.
We have influence.
We can control our thoughts and our emotions if we learn how to, but most people I haven't
learned how to. But imagine somebody who is constantly focusing on what they can't control,
what's missing, think COVID, and then the past. Well, you can't change the past. You put those
three together and you have somebody that's going to be angry or depressed. So I get people all
the time who are, you know, been on, I ask people in live audiences a lot of time. I have 10, 15,
20,000 people. How many of you know someone who asks them who takes antidepressants and they're
still depressed? 90% of the room raises their hand. Well, why? Because when you take
an antidepressant, all it does is it numbs you.
In fact, a year ago, well, 2022, the cover of Newsweek was showing SSRIs don't even work, but we're still selling them.
But, you know, the good news is you can learn to change these.
Stanford decided during the middle of COVID, they reached out to me because two of their professors went to one of my programs, and they both were clinically depressed and came out with no symptoms of depression.
They said, do you have data on this?
And I said, well, I have millions of graduates.
They said, but I mean like scientific data?
I said, well, no, but would you like to do a study?
They said, we'd love to.
so I said, well, if we're going to do it, you're going to do it on depression because during COVID, the amount of depression exploded, as you know, and the amount of suicides exploded, overdoses. I said, well, what is the average across, you know, meta studies. What, what, what, what, how well do people get under current approaches? And they said, well, Tony, the average is 60% make no improvement. Whether they're doing drugs or therapy or both, 40% on average across the many studies improve. But their improvement is about 50% so they're half as depressed. Now, some people get well, but very few. Most of them take these drugs for years or even.
decades. And I said, man, you could almost get that with a placebo. And they said, you're right.
I said, what's the best study you've ever done? They said, it was done five years ago at Johns Hopkins.
They took people for 30 days and gave them psilocybin, which is magic mushrooms, for 30 days,
along with cognitive therapy. And I said, well, you must have got to change out of that. And they
said, yes, it was the most success they'd ever had in the history of depression treatment. After six
weeks, 54% of the people had no symptoms of depression. I said, well, why don't you, you know,
do your example against that for us? They did. They did the study. The numbers were so, it was a
five-day seminar, no drugs, you know, no cognitive therapy. It's called Date with Destiny.
I do it once a year. And they then followed up. The numbers were so insane. They didn't want to
get, you know, blacklisted or, you know, canceled. So they sent out all the data blindly to three
other organizations. Here's the result. After six weeks, zero percentage of those people had
clinical depression, no symptoms whatsoever. 17% went in with suicidal ideation. They all left with
no suicidal ideation. 11 months later, follow up, no depression, 52%, excuse me, 71% reduction
in negative emotions, 52% increase in positive emotions. So now we're doing a one-year study
that's on quiet quitting to give you an idea in business as well. So we just change a few things
and you radically change how people feel and how they operate.
There's some simple, pragmatic things you can do.
Let's take a quick break and continue this conversation
in just a little bit with Tony Robbins on The Will Cain Show.
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Welcome back to the Will Kane show.
We're hanging out with Tony Robbins, bringing in 2025 and revisiting a conversation we had with him a little bit earlier this year.
You know, Tony, one of the things, and I've had this conversation here on the Will Kane show over the last couple of weeks, I'm going to give you an example.
You don't have to address the example.
But, you know, I would talk about the Republican primary.
And I would say, you know, listen, something's not working for Ron DeSantis.
It was just an analysis of reality, right?
It's not endorsement.
It's not a – I'm not waving pom-poms and I'm not – and I'm not cheering, you know, anyone's failure.
I'm just trying to accurately assess reality.
My argument to the audience is you have to accurately assess reality in order to change reality.
And so – but so much in news, especially when it comes to politics, it's become – don't say anything negative because essentially we want to manifest our destiny.
Like, talk positive and then it turns positive.
The reason I bring that up is, I think you need to understand reality.
I think, you know, that's step one.
Step two, diagnose, improve reality after you've analyzed it.
So you're talking about SSRIs here.
Here's what I would ask you.
So we know that young women are having a huge problem with depression, kind of starting
around their teens, and it seems to correlate with the adoption of social media.
Without a doubt.
We know that young men are having a big problem, maybe a little bit later, but we
see the suicide and depression with young men. I've speculated as to why. You are very well positioned
to tell us what is the diagnosis of reality. What is happening with young men and maybe with young
women as well when it comes to depression? Well, the studies with young women, the more they spend
time on social media, the more likely they are depressed. And it's because we have this
insane double standard for women, which is they're supposed to look like, you know, somebody that's
on heroin, you know, that their body is skinny and acts a certain way and be a certain way. And as you
know no one actually publishes reality in social media. They use filters and they make
themselves look better. They make their life look better than it is. And so people feel about
their lives by comparing who they're around. Well, that used to be the people you're growing up
with. Now you're comparing to multibillionaires, models and people of that nature. And so it's
overwhelming for women because it's so insane that they're held to the standard. Men don't
have the same standard. You see, men usually are more suicidal because they feel like they're
not enough and don't have a compelling future. They don't have a place in society. They don't
have a way of making it.
They don't have a way of proving who they are.
And, you know, when I did Theo's piece,
the thing that struck me again was how many men,
like he, are focused on the past,
feeling like they're worthless, feeling like they're not enough.
I mean, it was a genius in what he does,
and yet he still was operating from kind of the past.
His focus has been on these meanings he made about himself years ago,
and he's gotten so used to it, as he described it's like a friend.
You know, it's like this sadness, this overwhelm is like a friend.
Well, I said, it's not your friend.
And it's just a habit.
I call it an emotional home.
You know, when you see people, like, for example, in some parts of the country where a
cyclone comes in or a storm, it destroys their home and they're crying and they've got
nothing left, but at least they survived.
And you'd have to have ice in your veins not to care for them.
But when you see them rebuild and go through it again, about the third time, most people's
brains go, why don't you move?
But they don't move because it's all they know.
It's their home.
And we have an emotional home.
And even if it's not a good place, we go back to what we know.
So what I show people is it's time to maybe, you don't have to give up your home,
but maybe it's time to expand your home and have it include a new set of emotions.
If I add your audience right down on a piece of paper right now,
and I'll do this in seminars, I'll say draw a line down the middle,
and on the left side, write every positive emotion you experience in an average week,
not once a year, not once a month, but once a week at least or more.
On the right side, write all the emotions that are negative that you experience in an average week.
and I get them as much time as they need.
The average person comes up with 12 emotions.
And some got more positive, some got more negative.
But the thing you see is there are 3,800 words in the English language for different emotions.
And we have the same emotions over and over again.
We use the same words to describe them.
We use our body the same way.
And so what I show people is how to expand it.
You're ripping yourself off by having such a limited list of emotions.
But people do it because of what they know.
So I put people in environments where their energy is so hard.
high. Their biochemistry changes. And now they start to feel differently and they start to link it. It's
like if I asked you where you were during 9-11, if you're not an American, most people can tell me where
they were, who was with them, what they saw. I've asked you where you're on 8-11. You have no clue
unless something special happened because information without emotion is not retained. So I produce
high levels of emotion and then we make the changes. And that's why when they did the studies,
for example, at Stanford, they go, how is this lasting a year later with no interaction?
because it was anchored into their nervous system with so much emotion at the time.
It's in their bodies, not just their heads.
Information without emotion.
What'd you say?
It's barely retained.
Does it?
Barely retained.
It's so.
You know why your wife will be able to tell you something horrible you did 12 years ago
that you've forgotten a show up in detail?
Some emotion attached?
There's a reason.
I don't remember it.
I didn't feel anything.
Women have a deeper construction in their brains and female
brains between the right and left hemisphere, men are more separated. So a man could take a word
and put it in the left brain and put the emotion in the right brain. Woman, you say something,
and they have that emotion and that word simultaneously. So they remember more. That's why they
have a deeper memory to give an idea. Always feeling, always remembering these women.
Tony, here's why I ask you a diagnosed reality. And I'm going to connect this to the SSRI
conversation. That is societies not diagnosed.
that's society's current solution to the diagnosis of depression and
purposelessness and it's stunning I mean I don't know I don't have it in
front of me but I've looked up in the past the percentage of people watching
listening living in America right now that are on some antidepressant
ADHD whatever it may be it's mind-blowing and then Tony I would add this
you know my wife is involved I had it she's involved in things that bring her
into contact with the foster care system in America
And you're talking about children who have objectively awful circumstances for the entirety of their life.
So like if you were saying, hey, why are you depressed?
They'd be able to come up with some good reasons, you know?
And the foster care system in partnership with the medical system, answer to that is, here, have some of these drugs.
And these kids are on these drugs constantly and early.
And they're just an illustration, I think, of what's going on wider in society.
at some point, Tony, I would have to think, and we maybe you're already experiencing it,
this chicken comes home to roost.
What is the price we pay for medicating society?
Well, I think you can see it already.
I don't think it's something that has come home to roost.
You have so many people.
I mean, most people don't want to come back to work.
They were paid to stay home and now they don't want to work.
And listen, I understand hybrid work can be really valuable.
I have a lot of companies.
We have a lot of hybrid companies.
But, you know, there are a lot of companies they want their employees come back to work and they go,
I'll quit.
Well, some of them are putting their foot down.
A UPS the other day announced that everyone has to come back five days a week, all the management people.
And they all complained, but they also fired 12,000 people on that day.
So I think a tightening economy changes those types of things.
But I think we have medicated ourselves so much that what's happened, it's like we become weaker and weaker.
If you want to know the history of the country or the history of society, I'm a student of history,
you study 1,000 years of Roman history, 500 years of Anglo-American history, I can tell you the cycle.
It's really simple.
good times create weak people they don't mean to be weak it's just when everything is available to you and you know nothing else you get really stressed out when your internet doesn't work and you're banging on your phone give it a moment it's going to a satellite you know it's like people forget but good times create weak people let's take a quick break and continue this conversation in just a little bit with tony robins on the will cane show news sports and talk the will cane show listen to the all new brett bear podcast featuring common green
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Welcome back to the Will Kane show.
We're hanging out with Tony Robbins bringing in 2025 and revisiting a conversation we had with him
a little bit earlier this year.
The Holy Grail of Investing.
And we hear you today talking about the success of private placement, private equity, private credit.
It's been elusive, though.
I mean, it's an elite club of people with a, you know, I know how this works.
I mean, there's minimum levels of investment.
A lot of it even now is institutional.
You point out Ray Dalio.
You don't get to $174 billion by average dudes putting in $1,000.
So how does the person listening right now, if they find this as a worthy investment advice to follow?
And after having read your book, how do you get in?
Like, how does this become not something just for the elites?
Well, there's two things.
First of all, you couldn't even legally get in unless you were an accredited investor,
which means you had to have a million dollar net worth,
not counting your house or make $200,000 a year or $300,000 a couple.
And I've always said, this is ridiculous.
Why do the richest people in the world get access to the best investments
and the people that need it the most don't?
Well, fortunately, Congress agreed in about four months ago,
bipartisan, one of the few bipartisan things they've done,
they passed the law that says, this is ridiculous.
You might have inherited your money.
That doesn't mean you're sophisticated.
you might be a good businessman, but you don't know investing.
If you take a test, you study and take a test, you're credited.
You don't need a million dollars.
Now, the Senate needs to approve it, but it looks like it's going to pass bipartisan as well.
So that's exciting.
But then you bring up the bigger point.
You know, you and I are well-known people to some extent, and we have a certain amount of success,
and we know the right people.
And so we might be able to get in there.
And I was getting little slivers of some of the best in the world, like the ones I interviewed.
Well, it wasn't going to move the dime for me, and it wouldn't move a dime for most people.
So I was lamenting about this to a friend of mine who worked with Paul Tudor Jones, one of my clients, and he started his own firm.
And he said, Tony, you've helped me so much.
I'm going to let you in on where I put most of my money.
Now, this guy is really successful financials.
I'm leaning in, you know, tell me.
He goes, Tony, there's this company in Houston, Texas called Kaz.
And as soon as he said Houston, Texas, I'm like, not London, not Singapore, not New York, not Connecticut.
He goes, yes, they're outside the bubble.
And here's what they've done.
You know how you're fighting to get a little piece?
they've spent billions in dollars and bought pieces of these companies where you're the general partner.
So people know when you invest in a private equity fund, they tie your money up for five years.
They get 2% of your money as a fee no matter what, whether they do well or not.
They do well or you wouldn't keep your money with them.
And they get 20% of the upside.
That's why they're so wealthy.
Well, people are willing to do it because the returns are so insanely good.
Well, watch this.
You're a limited partner when you invest in one of those.
A general partner is the owners, the CEO and so forth.
you can actually buy a piece, small piece, a sliver of these companies.
So I have a piece of 65 of the biggest private equity firms in the world where I'm getting
that 2% and 20.
So I get about 10% percent.
You're getting that 2 and 20.
I'm getting 10% a year in income and all the upside multiple that comes from the growth
of those businesses.
And when they double in size, their costs don't double.
Their profits increase.
I get that.
When they sell the business, I get a multiple on it.
That is available to an average investor for the first time in history.
So that's one thing I was most excited about.
You can do this with some of the best companies that exist literally in the world.
Well, I'm sure you can learn a lot about this and the access and the investing philosophy and the Holy Grail of investing.
You're doing so much out there, man.
And I really am.
And I don't do, you know, I used to have this beautiful, Tony, this beautiful black and tan Doberman.
I lived in New York City at the time.
And I would take him to Central Park.
It's leash-free before 9 a.m.
He's gorgeous.
I'm like, I know.
He really is gorgeous.
But I can't return the compliment unless it's a real compliment, meaning I can't just say, oh, your dog's pretty too, unless it's a pretty dog.
So I don't give gratuitous compliment.
I'm a fan, is what I'm saying.
And it's not just positive thinking.
It's intelligence.
It's manifesting, you know, how you see the world.
It's habits.
It's investing.
I know you're doing a lot of stuff in health as well.
There's something here in Dallas where I live and where I'm from that you're working on when it comes to health screening.
You're doing a lot of good things.
In short, man, you're full of wisdom.
And I really appreciate you hanging out with us today.
I really appreciate it.
I'm a fan of yours as well.
I've watched many of your shows.
I enjoy them.
And by the way, I want people to know, though, if you maybe get a little investment in this
book. I don't care how advanced or just beginning you are. You'll understand it. But also we're
donating. As I've done for my last four books in a row, they all been number ones, 100% of the
money goes to feeding America. And I set a goal 10 years ago to feed. I was fed when I was 11 years
old on Thanksgiving. We had no food and changed my life. It wasn't the food. It was that people
cared. And so I started with two families, and then four. And then I got to a million families,
and then four. I said, I want to pride a billion meals in the United States in 10 years.
And I'm proud to tell you, we did it last year, two years early and eight years. And we're
continue. Now we're doing a hundred billion meals across the world. So while you're changing
your own life, you'll be helping other people who are really in need as well. Awesome. Awesome.
Providing solutions as well in this world. Thank you so much. Tony Robbins.
I really appreciate it. Next time in person. I know a lot is lost. You know,
nonverbal, you know, body language, energy. You know, I believe that. We manipulate energy in the
room. So we're losing a lot of it here, but I think we did a good job with your wisdom.
No, thank you so much, well. I'll see you in person sometime soon.
All right. There you go. I hope you enjoyed that conversation with Tony Robbins. I hope you have a
wonderful and prosperous 2025. And I hope you'll hang out with us every day this year on the
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