Will Cain Country - State of the Union: Dems Won’t Even Stand for Americans? (ft. Rep. Byron Donalds & Todd Ricketts)
Episode Date: February 25, 2026Story 1: President Donald Trump delivered a historically long State of the Union Address last night, but not everyone is happy about it. Congressman Byron Donalds (R-FL) helps Will unpack President Tr...ump’s speech, reflecting on the current state of our nation’s political landscape, and the Democratic Party’s hesitancy to support bipartisan issues such as the SAVE Act.Story 2: Will and The Crew share their ideas for a revolutionary new Congressional dress code while reacting to President Trump’s bestowal of two Medals of Honor and one Presidential Medal of Freedom during his State of the Union address.Story 3: The censorship of the Internet by "Big Tech" companies has been an open secret for years, but a lack of competition has made the idea of circumventing it laughable. Things may be beginning to change. Co-Owner of the Chicago Cubs and Founder of Freespoke, Todd Ricketts joins Will to discuss his effort to build a censorship free search engine, sharing what inspired him to do so, and what his main issues are with current market leaders like Google. Plus, Todd reflects on his invitation to visit the White House after the Cubs won the World Series in 2016.Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country!Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@willcainnews)Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The primary job of the United States elected representative is to serve the interests of the American people.
That seems an easy proposition, but it wasn't last night for Democrats at the state of the Union.
We break it down with candidate for governor of Florida and congressman, Byron Donald's.
AI now baked in with Biden.
We're going to talk about it with the cooner of the Chicago Cubs, Todd Rickens.
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One billion dollar campaign ad cut in a matter of 30 seconds, live in front of the nation, in front of your eyes, at the State of the Union address.
President Donald Trump put a very simple proposition forward to the members of the United States Congress and Senate.
Is it your job primarily to represent the interest of American citizens, or is it your job to concern yourself with illegal immigrants?
He asked the entire body to stand if they see their jobs as described as serving Americans first.
Here is the response.
So tonight I'm inviting every legislature to join with my administration in reaffirming a fundamental principle.
If you agree with this statement, then stand up and show your support.
The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not a legal area.
Democrats in Congress remain seated.
A Republican Congress is from Florida's 19th District.
He's running for the governor of Florida.
Congressman Byron Donald's, who joins us now on Will King Country.
What is up? How are you, Congressman?
Doing good, Will. Good to be back with you.
What did you think in that moment, in that very moment, when you looked across and you saw them all still seated, with that question presented to them, that, that experiment run on them at the State of the Union, what did you think sitting there in that building?
I thought they were crazy, to be honest with.
you. You know, to that point in a speech, you know, the U.S. Olympic hockey team had already come
out. President was talking about some of the, you know, the young women in our country in
particular who had been victimized by illegal aliens in our country. And this was a simple
proposition. Everybody who runs for public office or who puts the uniform on and serves our
country, it is all in defense of the American people, of America as a nation. And in the ideals that we are the
best nation on the face of the earth, American exceptionalism. That's what you sign up for.
And to see them just sit there on their hands, because they could not find ways to agree with
Donald Trump on something so simple but so unifying for America. I just thought that it was crazy.
I thought they really screwed up. I think that their hatred for Donald Trump has blinded them
to the realities of where the American people are and trying to work with us to make sure that
We are actually helping the lives and livelihoods of every American.
I thought it was an awful thing to do.
And look, they're going to have to reap the whirlwind on this one because, like you said, that was a billion-dollar ad.
Nobody could have storyboarded a TV ad like that.
It was shocking to watch.
It is not partisan.
It should not be partisan.
It is the first line in the job description.
It's baked into the premise that if American citizens elect you to office, they're sending you there to represent the interests of American citizens.
And if you have people who somehow taken that and used that to serve either another country or a body of people who are not American citizens, you are not fit for the job.
If I am on the left, if I'm a Democrat, I am sitting there saying, why are you not representing the interest of me on the left as an American citizen?
You mean to tell me that the interest of an illegal immigrant are not or are equal to the priority of serving me, the lefty American citizen?
I mean, it should be offensive to literally everyone that you can't fulfill the first line in the job description.
And I haven't heard Congressman today.
I haven't yet heard any interviews, any reasons given by those Democrats.
Maybe I reject the premise as presented to me by President Donald Trump, or I won't follow the,
demands or playing to the games of Donald Trump. It may be, but I think they're all going to fall short.
I can't wait to hear the reason from a Democrat.
Yeah, it's going to fall short. If short, it's going to ring hollow. You're right, Will.
I think they have really missed the plot. And I think this is something for the American people to take note of and to put into their calculus when they go to the polls this November.
This is the same Democrat Party that opened up our borders on purpose. This is the same Democrat.
party that did not follow federal law on purpose. Same Democrat party who caused massive inflation
in our economy where families have fallen behind and they've been struggling to get back on their
feet. The same Democrat party who lied to us about the condition of Joe Biden, the same Democrat
party that used and weaponized social media to suppress free speech of the American people during
COVID-19. It's the same party, the same players. They haven't changed. And if anything, they've gotten
more radical, but to your core point, the fact that they can't even acknowledge the number one
part of the job, which is to protect this nation and to protect the American people above all
else, to put the American people first before any other item on the agenda is just crazy to me,
makes no sense to me. As far as I'm concerned, they don't deserve to hold authority and power
here in Washington, D.C. No, I think it's disqualifying. I literally think it's disqualifying for public
service. How do you take an oath to the Constitution where you would place the priorities of
illegal immigrants on equal playing field or above that of the American citizen? And it makes
me think about something else, Congressman, for years now. The line has been that Democrats are
the defenders of democracy against the would-be authoritarian in Donald Trump. But think how
self-defeating this is for just a moment. So you're the defender of democracy, but your version of
democracy is that your elected representative should prioritize people who are not his electors,
who is not an American citizen.
So you're voting in a way to end the experiment of democracy.
If we have no nation state and everyone is on equal playing field, citizen or non-citizen,
and the interest of illegal immigrant and citizen are of equal value,
or perhaps it should be put to them,
the illegal immigrant's interest are of more value than the American citizen,
you are talking about negating the experiment of democracy.
It's committed suicide at your hands.
Well, well, well, look, to that point, when the president brought up passing a Save America Act, what did the Democrats do?
Sat on their hands.
You're talking about protecting American democracy, the American constitutional republic, the very best governing system in the history of the world.
Let's just be very clear on this.
This is the best governing framework in the history of the world.
We have produced more wealth for more people than anywhere else on the face of the planet in the history of the world.
More people have come to our shores legally, assimilated into the United States, become a fabric of this nation, and have transformed their stars in life from what their families used to be, what they are today.
All that in the United States of America.
And the Democrats couldn't even acknowledge to do the one thing that they can work with us to do, and that's to protect the franchise of American voting in requiring that you're an American when you register to vote and requiring that you have to show a form of idea, a picture ID,
in order to cast a ballot in American elections.
They can't even support that.
It's an 80-20 issue.
Democrats supported.
Hispanic voters supported.
Black voters supported.
White voters supported.
Independent supported.
Obviously, Republicans supported.
They couldn't even come to grips with how they are on the wrong side of history
and doing what's right on behalf of the American people
and on behalf of the United States of America.
That party's gone, man.
I don't know what they're doing over there.
I don't really care.
The only thing I really care about is Republicans, we need to get back on the job.
We've got to win this November because that party is only concerned with impeachments and obstruction.
That's all they're concerned about and obviously illegal aliens.
I mean, I just find it to be crazy.
So you bring up an 80-20 proposition in the SAVE Act in voter registration and voter ID.
You bring up an 80-20 proposition and you say that the Democrat Party is gone.
I started thinking about this.
the other part of the state of unit clearly stands out is all these wonderful moments of celebration of patriotism and American heroes.
From the United States Olympic hockey team to the Medal of Honor helicopter pilot who was injured in his mission over Venezuela.
From a hundred-year-old military war hero also awarded the Medal of Honor to the mother of Arenas Zarutka.
And these are people.
And these are moments whose recognition and celebration
I think congressmen are an 80, 20 or 90-10 proposition in America.
Meaning, whatever you saw from the floor of Congress last night is actually not that representative of the American people.
Now, but I don't know if you're going to agree with me.
And so I'm curious about this.
So, all right, Bill Maher said this, Congressman.
He watched what happens last night and he sees the, you know, half of Congress sitting down, half standing up and cheering.
And here's his takeaway about where we are in America.
And worst of all, the advertising to the whole world, the state of our union actually
is hopelessly divided.
That's the real state of our union.
You can tell because neither party anymore could even clap for the other one, no matter how
benign the statement.
Here's Biden in 2023 saying, political violence has absolutely no place, no place in America.
And here are the Republicans sitting on.
on their hands. That's where we are. They're politicians and they can't even give it up for shooting
us is bad. That's Bill Maher. Actually, I mean, it wasn't after last night, Congressman,
but it was from one of his previous monologues on real time. And I saw this video, Congressman,
I think it was in sports. You and I love sports. And it was like, have you ever walked around
America? Have you gone to a restaurant? You ever gone to a ball game? You ever seen the way?
we live, forget the way we interact on social media, and maybe forget even the way that we act in
Washington, D.C., and maybe forget the way that we actually behave on cable news. If you're actually
lived in America, gone around America, we don't live like we are divided like that. Now, some of my
producers disagree with me, Congressman. They think, no, that's pretty representative of where
we're headed. Just look at Minnesota or whatever it may be. But I'm leaning towards Bill
Marr's wrong. We're actually not as divided as what you see on social media and on TV.
Look, I think that the American people are far more unified than they are divided.
I agree with you.
Spending the last year, crisscrossing the state of Florida, I'll tell you, people love our state.
They love being a part of it.
They love that they moved here or that they've been part of a family that's multi-generation.
They love that.
Most people agree on most things.
I think 80% of the people agree on 80% of the things.
That's just kind of the way it is.
But when it comes to trying to figure out who's going to be in power,
That's when the major divisions occur.
And I think that, look, whether the examples you gave, the U.S. hockey team,
these soldiers who have given a part of their lives or all of their lives to our nation,
honoring them with military honors or with the highest honor a president can bestow,
those are the things that I believe unified the country.
I said in an interview last night that when the U.S. hockey team came in,
That was probably the best moment that I've been a part of in a state of the union in six years.
And I've been to six of them now.
This is my last one as a member of Congress.
And I got to tell you, when they came in the chamber, it was great.
It was exhilarating.
It was a reminder that, you know, the pettiness on Capitol Hill, the partisanship that occurs, that sometimes we all miss it.
It's really about this country.
It's about doing what's right on behalf of the American people.
It's about forging ahead so that America can survive another 250 years.
And I think that the president really wanted to strike that cord last night, and he did that.
And unfortunately, you have congressional and senatorial Democrats who were more concerned about trying to get gavels and control of chambers of Congress as opposed to standing up for the exceptionalism of America, the beauty of America, the things that truly unite us in America.
And the president delivered that last night.
And I think people at home watched it.
And I think some of the polling was coming out today about that speech.
They thought it was reinvigorating.
They thought it was a spiritual lift.
It was something that the country, I think, really did need.
And I think the country is getting really tired of partisan, overperformance.
Everything's always the worst thing.
You know, constant social media presence, constant everything.
I think Americans just want us to be united as a country, do smart, common sense things.
And let's make sure that we enjoy the beauty around us, which is America.
Let's take a quick break, but continue to analyze.
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Welcome back to Will Kane Country.
We're still hanging out with Congressman Byron Donalds of Florida.
I totally agree that I would imagine most of America saw that as uplifting,
inspirational and a unifying moment for America. I mean, it's interesting, you know, I hear you,
and then I can listen to a Democrat saying that speech was full of divisiveness and hate.
Okay. And I really wish I had more Democrats on my show. It's not for lack of trying.
Because I'm like, what are you pointing to? Where is the hate? Like, where is the divisiveness?
And I'm sure that they have their answers and they hear things.
in ways. Like that Bill Maher clip, Congressman, I don't remember that moment from the state of
union. You've been to six. You may have been there. He condemns political violence and Bill Maher characterizes
Republicans sitting on their hands. And I understand that people have things going on in their
brains or they hear different things than other people. So I don't know what he was talking about
in that moment. And Biden had a way of saying, you know, everything that was in disagreement with him
was a form of political violence, and he could have been making a broader argument.
That's why Republicans didn't stand to celebrate a call for condemnation of political violence.
But you remember it. What happened?
That's exactly what happened.
I think in that speech, Joe Biden spent probably the previous 15 minutes or so talking about
what they perceived as the threat was political violence from the right.
And whether people want to talk about Christian nationalism or whatever the case might be,
He was going through all those tropes at that point.
And it probably went off about 10 minutes from just recollection.
And I think at that point, members were just like, yeah, whatever.
Like, nobody wants violence politically.
None of us want that.
You know, you could talk about the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
You could talk about the shooting of Steve Scalise.
You could talk about Gabby, I think it was Gabby Giffords, Representative Giffords,
who was shot in Arizona and almost lost her life.
The failed assassination attempts on President Trump.
Nobody wants violence in politics.
None of us do.
But I think sometimes what happens is when you have what Joe Biden was doing,
especially at that time,
he was trying to, in some respects, weaponize it politically for political advantage.
That's when you had Republicans in a chamber being like, yeah, no.
By laying all this runway about how it's all the rights fault and the rhetoric and this and that.
And then at the end, it's synthesized into condemn political violence.
And you show,
Do you think that that's what President Trump did last night, Congressman?
Did he do anything similar?
Well, what I would say is that last night, what Donald Trump was doing is he was talking about the American citizens who were ravaged, either murdered or harmed greatly by criminal illegal aliens being in the United States.
And it's without a doubt that they are in our country because of Democrat policy and because of Joe Biden.
That is a fact.
And so the president was talking about that.
Last night, the president acknowledged in the crowd the five-year-old girl who almost lost her life because an illegal alien who got a CDL license from the state of California plowed into a car that was stopped. And this little girl almost died and she was alive with us in the chamber last night. And so this is what the president was talking about. Do you agree? And this is simple. Do you agree that it is our job to put the American people first and to protect the American people over criminal illegal aliens?
And that was the question.
And that was the front, the layout.
And so this was different than just blaming the Democrats directly for violence against Americans.
It was, do you agree that our job is to protect the American people?
But that's a fair question.
What I'm asking, it's fair analysis for being.
The same reason that you guys sat on your hands to reject the entire setup and what was baked into that question,
you don't think that happened last night.
You don't think the president was forcing them in that moment to co-sign a five-minute speech
before that for something that they disagree with.
No, I don't think so. I think especially in light of the fact that you have to acknowledge if
your policy is that you want illegal aliens to come into the country unfettered and unchecked,
then you stand by that if that's what you want. That's what Democrats want. Let's be very clear
about this. Department of Homeland Security is shut down right now. You have people in Massachusetts
and New Jersey. These are not red states. They have power outages right now because of the
snowstorm that just went through. We had Arctic blasts in Florida two weeks ago, which have
destroyed whole crops or partially destroyed an entire field just because of frost. Well, FEMA's
closed. FEMA's job is to respond to these emergencies. FEMA is closed today because Democrats have
chosen criminal illegal aliens over the American people. That's the layout. This isn't about
blaming the left for political violence or blaming the right for political violence. Actually, Donald Trump
said last night that there should be no room for political violence when he recognized Erica
Kirk and talked about Charlie Kirk. And I will say there were Democrats in the chamber who stood
for that. And I'm glad they stood for that. And that was a good thing. But what we're talking about
now is who comes first, the American people or the rest of the world and illegal aliens.
And Democrats will choose the rest of the world and criminal illegal aliens every single time.
And it's really sad to see. It is. All right, you have to go. But I want to
want to ask you just one last question.
Sure.
Here's the history.
Joe Wilson yells, you lie,
at Barack Obama.
He wasn't censured, but he got something.
He got in trouble in some way.
Marjorie Taylor Green yelled something similar.
I can't remember what she yelled.
She didn't.
Nothing happened to Marjorie Taylor Green.
Last night, Ilan Omar and Rashida Talib
yelled at President Trump.
I mean, a lot of times.
I don't remember how many times,
but it was a lot of times.
and they were yelling stuff like, you murdered Americans, you kill Americans.
What did you think of their behavior should anything happen to those two representatives?
Like, I've never been a fan of the yelling from the crowd. That's just me.
You know, I don't have to agree with the president to just sit there and let him have his time to come and address Congress.
And quite frankly, address America and address the world.
So that's my position.
I think if that happens, if somebody's held accountable for it, I think we just have to be consistent across the board.
that way everybody knows going in that if you do this, here's going to be the consequences.
But that being said, look, if there's one thing I would probably say that the Brits do really well,
is that, hey, the PM's got to come into the House of Lords,
and they actually have to address Congress in debate fashion.
I think that would be phenomenal.
You want to talk about wild debates.
I love that too.
I watch those videos sometimes.
You and I would like that because it's like first take political style.
Oh, yeah.
You know, it would be great.
But I mean, that's the stuff, but I think yelling at the president, I just don't think that's what you need to do.
You have plenty of opportunity, especially with 24-hour media, to make your case and your response or disagree with the president if that's what you choose to do.
But let's be clear, President Trump gave a great speech last night.
It was a unifying speech last night.
It talked about the successes that he's had.
It's talked about the rebuilding that's had to occur.
It did contrast between what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris left.
this country in. And that's what people soundly rejected. That's why Donald Trump won a political
mandate and swept the battleground states and won the popular vote because of how terrible a job
they had done. And people remembered when Donald Trump was in charge the first time and how good a job he
did. And now we're back on that track again. And I think that this November, when Americans go to
the polls, they're going to compare and say, well, the Democrats were in charge and they were an
absolute dumpster fire. At least Donald Trump has common sense reigning again in America. Let's
support him with more support in Congress. And let's move forward.
All right, Congress from Byron Donald. He's running for governor from the state of Florida.
We appreciate you being all with us today after the state of the union. Thank you, Congressman.
Thanks, Will.
All right, there you goes, Byron Donald's.
Tinfoil Pat, two a days, Dan, with us here today. Do you guys ever, do you, let's just do
this little thought experiment. You know, the Rashida Taleb and Ilan Amar yelling.
On one hand, you're like, okay, have some decorum.
I think that's the appropriate word here, right?
Decorum.
Have decorum.
Like, I don't like it when...
On the other hand, I sort of do like it when the Brits do all that yelling and cheering and cheering when the prime minister has to come before.
I think it's the House of Commons.
Parliament is kind of awesome.
It's awesome.
Like, when they do that, and I love how they have the stands facing each other, right?
So it's like Labor Party on one side and...
It's like, you suck.
Liberal Party on the other.
Yeah.
I kind of wish ours was like that.
Sam.
I like that rock goodness.
Rockousness.
So does that mean we don't mind Elon Omar and Rashid to leave and what they did last night?
Is that where we fall?
Or is it like you don't talk trash in tennis, but you do in football?
It's like two different worlds.
Just ours is not like theirs and that's the way it should be.
I think it should be a little more...
It should be a little more rough and tumble, I think.
Yeah.
I mean, people used to get into duels, you know, on the house floor.
I mean...
We're not doing duels again.
We have a history of this, so I don't think it's in the pocket.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's some dudes that have gotten beaten up with a cane.
I know that for sure.
Like, one dude just grabbed his cane and beat the tar out of another guy.
Maybe we just have boxing matches.
We need a little more of that.
Sanction boxing matches.
Yeah.
I don't think it's wrong for Federman to wear a hoodie, I'll be honest.
Hey, Federman in a suit last night.
How about that?
Looked that.
Is that the first time we've ever seen him in a suit?
No, he's done it before.
I've seen him in a suit.
Special occasions.
Yeah, I wonder what he said.
Well, he had to wear a suit to go in there, right?
They say because he votes from outside the chamber because he's in his hoodie in shorts.
So he doesn't actually go into the chamber of the Senate to do his work.
I think he says his vote or he screams it from the back door, I think, or something like that.
Yeah.
And so that he doesn't go in.
But he wanted to be inside the stadium.
And so he put on a suit.
I'm with you, actually, Patrick.
There's a lot of people watching and listening who disagree.
I always see it when I have Federman on.
And they always use the word, have some respect for the office or have some dignity.
I'm into, well, I think Patrick, you like me are into, I'm not into just individuality for
individuality's sake. I'm not into being a goth kid just to be contrarian. I don't want the House
of Representatives to look like a Star Wars bar scene. But I, by the way, have you guys seen the
videos from the Democrat response last night? Not not, not, what's her name? Spanberger,
the new governor of Virginia hers, but the state of the swamp. Did you see this? Dan,
Did you see your people?
No.
The state of the swamp last night.
Oh, they did a whole thing.
And I am not joking you, Dan.
There was a dude in a giraffe costume wearing some oakly blades screaming into a microphone.
It was the Star Wars bar scene.
It's a libertarian levels.
It's like a libertarian convention.
This is wild where you're getting.
It's really weird.
Nicked guys.
So I don't want that.
Patrick, I don't want that.
but I want a little bit, it doesn't bother me that John Federman is John Federman.
Let's bring Wigs back.
And he looks like, see, there was no individuality back then.
Everybody put on your powdered white wig.
Yeah.
But I like, I guess this is what I'm getting at.
When I see Fetterman, and I hope this is not an insult to anybody,
when I see Fetterman doing that, I think he is very authentically middle Pennsylvania.
Like that is...
He drinks yingling.
He is doing...
Yeah.
So, I mean, a Texas congressman in boots and jeans in a cowboy hat, a Florida congressman,
in a tank top, in jorts, um...
Connecticut Vineyard Bines.
Boston.
Yeah, Connecticut.
Whale shorts.
Yeah, whale shorts.
Some lobsters on their jackets.
With his sweater tied around his neck.
Yeah, like I don't mind that.
Just representative of each area.
I think that's a great idea.
Or just wear jerseys.
I do, too.
And then we can all put on, and we can all put on a white-powdered wig to pass it off.
So you got everybody coming in.
It's classy, but not.
Authentic to who they are.
But instead of putting on a suit now, you're authentic to who you are, but you put on a white-powdered wig.
That's hilarious.
So here comes Florida man, you know, beat up.
missing a few teeth, jorts, rips,
but a powdered wig.
But a powdered wig.
I'm going to have AI create this later for each state.
Please do.
I love it.
I just don't want to become too cliched, though.
You're going to get your Hawaiian guys and Hawaiian shirts,
and it's just going to be like, you know, they're not really like.
Are you saying it's racist, Patrick?
No, no, I'm saying, you know, I want people to be authentic to themselves.
I could see Chip Roy wearing a cowboy hat and cowboy boots,
but just because you're from a place doesn't mean that you should necessarily embrace that.
Put on the costume.
Nevada, you have to dress like Elvis, Las Vegas Elvis.
Yeah, but you have to be a person who would do that.
Yeah, I'm with you, Patrick.
No costumes.
It's not cosplay.
It's just if it's authentic to you.
You heard me mention it with Congressman Donald's.
So this is the first time that we got to see one of the men involved in the mission to capture Nicholas Maduro.
Chief Warren Officer Slover, I don't have his first name, is it Eric Slover, who was injured in the mission delivering special ops forces into their ground mission to go get Nicholas Maduro was severely injured.
You could see it last night at the State of the Union.
He was using a Walker.
and when he sat back down,
you can see him gingerly move away from the Walker.
He's got a heck of a story to tell.
We'd love for him to tell it here with us.
But he was presented with the Medal of Honor,
which was pretty incredible.
There was two Medal of Honors presented last night
to State of the Union.
That's got to be a first, right?
That's got to be a first.
A hundred-year-old veteran
whose mission had remained secret for decades.
Now he receives the Medal of Honor.
And so did Chief Foreign Officer.
Slovan. Here's that moment from the State of the Union.
So we have a surprise, Eric and Amy.
In recognition of Eric's actions above and beyond the call of duty,
I would now like to ask General Jonathan Braga
to present Chief Warrant Officer Slover
with our nation's highest military award,
the Congressional Medal of Honor.
He's holding back tears.
That was, I don't know, man.
He's pretty stoic.
I think he's holding back in motion.
I mean, that dude is cut out of marble.
Now, the 100-year-old guy, he was grinning ear-to-ear.
He had a gigantic smile.
Little time-supportening his situation.
To receive.
Yes.
Yes, without a doubt.
And a huge moment, by the way.
Team USA Olympic hockey goalie.
Here's a question of you guys.
Don't play this thought.
We don't need to play it.
But it's announced last night.
that President Trump is going to award Connor Hellebuk the Presidential Medal of Freedom,
the highest civilian honors.
Okay, he says, okay, I know, I know.
But here's what I really want to ask you, okay?
I hope I'm not, I'm not sowing division here.
I'm just a curious person, and I think about things.
And President Trump says that he took an informal poll in the Oval Office among the guys, right?
does anybody disagree with me giving Hella book the Presidential Medal of Freedom?
He goes, if any of you disagree, one person, I won't do it.
Who's going to raise their hand?
You know, like, no one's going to raise their hand.
So can you imagine that in the Ophill Office?
Can you imagine Brady Kachuk going, me, sir?
Connor is a real D-bag.
And to be honest, I can't abide this.
I never liked him.
So here's the question, though.
Do you think one of the awesome, Connor Hellebuk was the best player on the team.
He is the MVP of the tournament.
He was the MVP of the game.
His say that President Trump talked about was absolutely incredible.
And in hockey, a goalie is like a starting pitcher in baseball.
He can win the game by himself.
And there was, without a doubt, Hellebuck, he didn't win it by himself,
but he carried a heavy, heavy load.
a big percentage of what happened.
There were shots that were stopped, and there were shots that were missed.
The misses, Nathan McKinnon had a wide open shot.
And that's not just Nathan McKinnon failing.
That is Nathan McKinnon.
I heard somebody talk about it's so true.
Having to factor in Hellibook's presence in the goal.
Like he is telling himself, this guy's blocking everything.
I got to put this spot on right on the edge, and then you miss.
So the dude's presence is infecting, affecting everything.
I'm not taking a single thing away from Hellabook.
However, one of the awesome things about this, no, one of the awesome things about this is that it's so team-oriented.
And it's so beyond team-oriented that it's nation-oriented.
It's about, like, when Jack Hughes gives that speech, and he's like, I am so proud to be an American, this thing is bigger than any one player.
This thing is the team first and then the nation.
And I just wondered, does anybody feel like deep down or any of the guys going, you know, this was all about us and now there's this one thing for Connor, an individual award?
Do you think there's any of that?
No, because I feel like he represents the team well.
And you could see it on their faces when he announced that he was getting the medal.
They were all like, yes, absolutely.
Because it's still a team thing, but he's just kind of representing what they represent and what they did.
And he's the perfect representation for those guys.
and they agree with it.
And the goalie becomes a little bit your mascot.
Sure.
Like if it were a forward, you know, that might be a little different.
The goalie sort of becomes the mascot of the team.
Go ahead, tinfoil, Pat.
So I said you a clip yesterday of Helibuck, you know,
he got his start in Odessa.
And the owner of the team used to fly some of the players back on the private jet.
And Helibuck, because he was a starting goaltender,
most of the time, was one of the guys who would come.
and he would give his seat,
he would try to give his seat to other guys on the team.
So I don't think there's any animosity or division.
I think he's one of the guys who puts the team first,
and they all see that,
and they want to reward him for it,
because he's kind of like that guy.
Oh, yeah, he's an awesome guy.
Yeah, he's amazing.
This is not about him.
None of my curiosity.
None of my curiosity.
I could see them all supported.
It's about, you know?
Like, it's, I think so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll be right back on Will Kane Country.
Well, you know who might know something about this?
How about this?
Todd Ricketts is the co-owner of the Chicago Cubs.
He also has and is working on a brand new search engine, AI vehicle, Free Spoke.
He's here to tell us a little bit more about Freespoke.
He's a big political supporter, often of Republican causes,
and Todd joins us now on Wilking Country.
Hey, Todd.
Hey, thanks for having me here.
Really appreciate it.
Do you think after the...
The curse is broken.
The Cubs win the World Series.
Is there any like, don't make this about one guy, this is about all of us?
Do you think there's anybody going, why is Connor getting a little extra attention?
This was about all of us.
No, I don't think anybody ever has any problem with that.
I think that, like, if you look back in that 2016 World Series, you know, Ben Zobrist was the heart and soul,
that team that in the World Series itself, they kind of pulled us, and that's why he was the MVP.
So, you know, he was a veteran guy, and he didn't have all the flashy numbers all year, but when it counted, he was there.
I mean, you would know, you've been inside those locker rooms.
You've known a lot of the psyche of those guys.
By the way, I totally agree.
For everyone listening, I don't think anybody is begrudging Conner's recognition whatsoever.
But, you know, it's funny, Todd, I go to coffee with a buddy of mine who played baseball at Pepperdine.
I played water polo at Pepperdine.
And the team dynamics, the psychology of teams.
This morning, we were talking about something we talked about on the show yesterday,
like culture within different sports.
So my boys play soccer, and I worry sometimes that the culture and soccer is a little negative.
Like, it's just part of the culture, meaning guys talk each other down.
They cut each other down a little bit.
And I was talking to my buddy about baseball a little bit.
And he's like, yeah, baseball is very much like that.
It's very much.
And the reason he was saying it is,
that you get so heckled by the other team,
that it's almost like practice becomes practice for that.
They're constantly inside each other's head,
trying to rattle each other.
Yeah, it just made me think about that
when I started thinking about the way these guys all think,
this team dynamic, which I love,
which I think is a microcosm of society.
You know, I think in baseball,
you always need somebody who's a little bit,
you know, for lack of a better term,
a little bit of an A-hole in the locker room
to hold people accountable too, right?
this guy that like just wants to win so bad that he's going to hold everybody accountable and it raises everybody else's play right like it elevates the whole team and so maybe it's i always think of it a little bit of less of like you know getting ready for the psychology of the heckling of the other team but more having that accountability uh to the team well you you gave me a layup okay so i have to follow it who's the a hole right now for the chicago cubs you know we haven't won the world series in a while we're too nice
you don't have enough A-holes
You know
You look up and down a roster
Like you just don't see a lot of them
All right
I may return to baseball in a minute with you
Tom it
But one of the things you want to talk about today
And we're excited to have you
Is to talk about freespoke
Now
I think I have some things
To show the audience on this
When it comes to AI
Let's talk about
First of all
Let's start with this
Tell us about freespoke. What is free spoke?
So, you know, I always kind of start my story with saying, as I use like the Internet and places like Bing and Google and was looking at results, I always felt like that there was a little bit of a bias in there, specifically on political topics.
And, especially, like even today, the director of climate change at the UN talks about how they work with Google to suppress people that are, people who have statements that are.
are counter to the narrative on climate change.
And so I was like, you know, we need to have something out there that's a little bit more
bias-free, right?
And so like what we tried to do is we built our own index at Prespoke, which so we built our own
search engine with our own AI layered over it that was designed to really try to like
get rid of all the bias. Like obviously nothing is perfect, but we try to like give this
balanced view. And when you look at our like our digital news agent that comes up on the home page,
it gives all the stories that are coming from sources that are left and right,
and then also gives like an AI-generated consensus view.
And so the idea was that, you know,
we really have a lot of divisiveness in our world today,
especially when it comes to when you get online or where you go to social media,
you know, as someone who's right-leaning, you see a lot of right-leaning content.
And I'm sure that, like, my neighbors who are left-leaning get a lot of left-leaning content.
And so really, you know, our digital news assistant and search engine was kind of
built to bridge that divide.
So you could go and see kind of like how the other side sees things and kind of educate
yourself and stay informed.
Really about building dialogue and building that bridging that divide that's happening
in our country.
You kind of threw this in there, but AI layered on top.
So how much is AI a part of free spoke?
Yeah.
So the AI on top of it kind of takes in, but anything you search for, you're going to get
like an AI generated answer.
And so it takes in all the data that it can find.
Like Gemini at the top of a Google search.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah, just like Gemini or some of these others.
And what we've done is we've tried to coach our AI to be really just the facts ma'am.
And so if you think about how Google operates, if you think that, like, first of all, the internet is 75% left-leaning content because the left just generates so much more content.
And then you have like a little bit of an algorithm that's a little bit left leaning.
And then you have like an AI that's like just kind of naturally left leaning because it sees so much more left-leaning content, even if it's trying to be unbiased.
You end up getting like a left-leaning sort of solution or answer.
And so what we've tried to do is like kind of factor all that out and just try to keep it like straight down the middle and just be like I say, just the facts ma'am.
That's our mantra within our technology group too.
Okay.
Okay, so that brings something up that's interesting to me as well.
You may or may not know who this guy is, Todd, but Ethan Strauss used to work with me when I was at ESPN.
He's a sports writer, okay?
He also writes on sports and culture.
And he wrote this recent column about how in 2016-17, if a high-profile individual, you are somewhat anesthetized on this, but Robert Kraft kind of wasn't.
Certainly Tom Brady wasn't.
an athlete or a high-profile individual came out or was discovered to be a supporter of President Donald Trump.
It was worthy of national discussion and possibly cancellation.
Then the pendulum swings, and by 2023, two, people are much more brave.
They're much more willing.
So today, when it came to the hockey team, for example, the left is very upset to find out that a lot of these guys are at least open to being, you know,
non-political and going to the White House and accepting a call from President Trump, or may,
oh my gosh, sin of sins, they might actually agree with President Trump.
And the point is that all those people that used to have that power don't have that power anymore.
There's not this veto of what is acceptable in popular culture that used to exist.
It's still there.
It's just not, it's kind of neutered.
But you said something interesting to me.
AI is using content and the content creation side is still heavily on the left.
So even though it may not be representative of where people are, it's still the bulk of the content because AI is drawing from what?
CNN, MSN, anything else, time, and all of these sources are still on the left?
Yeah, that's right.
If you look at like Gemini is a great example.
I mean, that's still just pulling from Google's index.
right and so like their and their index is like heavily heavily left and we all when we know that they knowingly
suppress some content intentionally you know and being's not a lot different so that's why we really felt
like we had to build something different but going back to like visiting the white house i thought
jac hughes really said it well too he he said you know we're athletes not politicians and it's an
honor to go to the white house and actually if you go back to 2016 when when we did win the world series with
the Cubs, we actually got two White House visits, which was really interesting because remember
Obama was the president.
And so it was his last official act or last official gathering was having the Cubs at the White
House.
And I went with them because when the president invites you, you go.
And it's an honor to go to the White House regardless of who the president is.
We had a great time.
President Obama was more than charming.
Everybody really enjoyed it.
And then, interestingly enough, that because it had happened, we won the World Series right around the 2016 election.
You know, President-elect Trump had called me and said, before Obama invited us, he said, hey, when I'm president, I want to have the cups of the White House to celebrate this World Series.
So we were actually able to go back and have a second, a second White House visit with the team with President Trump, which was very different.
It was the fun part of it was there with Obama, we were like kind of in that East Ball.
room where they have all the official public events. And then with President Trump, it was very
informal. We just went through the Roosevelt room and the Oval Office and took a couple of photos and
had it, you know, really had a good time. Oh, wow. By the way, Todd, I don't remember,
did you get a lot of backlash for going? That's, I mean, that's in the heat of it. That's the heat of the
moment I was talking about. Like local media, national media, I don't remember. I remember big debates about
whether or not Kevin Durant should go to the White House. I remember doing that on first take.
Did you get much heat about going under President Trump?
I don't really remember getting any real sort of backlash. Like I said, like we, everybody had a
good time. And, you know, it was just, it was both, both visits were super fun. I always come back
to going to the White House as an honor. If you ever have a chance to go, you have to say yes.
In fact, a couple of years later when the, I think it was the Eagles, but I don't want to call anybody out if my memory's wrong, turned down a visit to the White House after they had won the Super Bowl.
And it actually kept me up at night.
I got out of bed like at 4 o'clock in the morning and I just cranked out a little editorial and sent it off to the New York Post saying that, you know, it put politics aside.
It's sports.
You know, people go to sporting events really to get away from their worries of the day.
and worries the day includes politics.
So I feel like sports should stay out of politics as much as possible
because that's not what people are looking for.
I want to come back to Freespoke.
I have a few curiosities, but really quickly,
because we're kind of on the note of baseball.
And I'm not going to ask you a lot about baseball,
but this is one thing I am curious about.
You basically just lost your best player in the offseason.
He has signed like everybody else has signed with the Dodgers.
Yeah.
Kyle Tucker, you know, the Dodgers are signing everybody.
There is no salary cap in baseball, and maybe that's great.
Maybe that's the best example of capitalism in sports that exists.
But are you concerned at all?
There's a mounting level of concern about the competitive balance of baseball
with the way the Dodgers are really outpacing everybody on free agent signings.
No, I think that's legitimate.
And we have one more season before our collective bargaining agreement comes up.
And so we're going to have a whole discussion about that in this coming off season.
And I think what we're going to end up is we're going to get a system that's much more like the NHL, the NFL, and the NBA, which kind of went through this sort of like, okay, where do we draw the line on salaries and a salary cap?
And I think we're going to come up with something that actually will send more of a larger percent of the revenues to the players, but with a hard cap and a hard floor.
and it's kind of up in the air what that will look like and what that mix of things will be.
But we need to get there.
We need to make sure that teams like the Marlins and the Pirates can remain competitive.
Do you think the Players Association will sign on to something like that?
I mean, that's going to be a huge fight, I would imagine, with the union.
Yeah, no, I think that at first they're going to be resistant,
but when you really drill down into the numbers and understand where things will probably
end up. I think we're going to get to some sort of resolution on that. You know, everybody wants
to play baseball. Everybody wants to have fans in the seats. And so I think that at the end of the day,
we're going to find a place where everybody's happy and baseball can move forward with like a little
bit better competitive balance. Okay, back to Free Spoke. Thank you for that. Okay. Yeah. I have on my
screen, everybody watching can see this. Where AI gets its info top sources. By the way, the number one
source is Reddit, and Reddit does go very far to the left.
Wikipedia is number two, YouTube's number three, Google is number four.
So AI is layering on top of the Google information.
The idea, so Freespoke is a search engine, but also has the AI.
The AI is the part that really interests me the most, Todd, because I do feel like
that search engines may go the way of the buggy whipmaker.
They may not be as relevant in the future as everybody continually moves in the adoption of AI.
A lot of people use AI a bit as a search function.
It can do way more.
I've begun to use it way more.
How concerned are you in general?
Forget search, but just AI, which we're all starting to rely on.
And I think has a level of trust baked into it that might be even more than search results,
where people are getting biased information from AI.
Yeah, well, I mean, just to reframe a little bit, even like your chat GBT's and your GROCs, they are doing a search.
They're still technically a search engine.
Then basically, if you think of AI, it's like this, it's like the same search you used to do, but it's doing it a thousand times faster and can be a little bit thoughtful about how it puts together those results.
So I think that like this idea that search will go away, like this idea of a search index, it's not going to go away.
But to your point on like where you gather your information, one of the things we saw with a lot of our users is that they get their information from podcasts, you know, similar to like what we have here that instead of like CBS Nightly News, but even CBS Nightly News has hired Barry Weiss to try to put together their news in a more unbiased way. But so we see that people using podcasts. So what we started doing is we started transcribing podcasts and adding them into our index.
And so I think what you're going to see is things like Reddit and podcasts.
They all kind of get, you know, layered into the search or that index that these AI engines are looking from, if that makes sense to you, right?
It does.
It's like how do you, I love that, except, you know, this is a casual conversation.
How do you separate point of view and opinion from fact?
Yeah.
No, I think that's, I think that's, you know, one of the issues you're going to deal with.
is like what is fact and what is commentary.
And so that it's, it is, and it's super difficult because what is a journalist today, right?
I think, you know, everybody, everybody wants to say they're a journalist, but really it's commentary.
But if what we, what we do is like it's less about trying to prove a fact.
It's more about bringing everything that people say and making it findable so you can retrieve it and
listen to it or read it, especially when it comes to podcasts with so many more people, you know,
going to the Joe Rogans of the world and the Will Cain's of the world, they're listening to
like, you know, these kind of long format discussions versus just soundbites or short news
articles.
Let's take a quick break, but continue to have this conversation with the co-owner of the
Chicago Cubs and the founder of Freespoke, Todd Ricketts, on Will Cain Country.
Welcome back to Will Cain Country.
We're still hanging out with Todd Ricketts, the co-owner of the Chicago Cubs and the founder
of Freespoke.
Yeah.
I mean, just, by the way, there's a...
a viral example that's going around that's chat gpt if you ask chat gpt yes or no simple answer was
charlie kirk a good person when forced into that binary it says no and i can't remember who the person on
the left is but let's just say george sorrows i don't think it was george sorrows but let's just say it was
george sorrows it says yes you know and i think that's a pretty clear indication of the level of bias we're
dealing with 100 percent 100 and really just high
highlights the limitations of technology itself.
Right, like we can never, we can lay out information.
And I always have a lot of faith in the American people
that if you give them good information,
they'll come to good decisions and good thoughts
about what we should be doing as a country.
But you're never going to be able to like filter out
all that, especially as the internet grows so much
and so much information is out there.
So there's there always has to be,
you know, technology is always gonna need us humans.
Yeah. That's been my approach for what it's worth. Am I a journalist? Am I a commentator? Well, here's my approach. It's always been, be honest with the audience about my point of view. Let them know where my biases lie. I definitely have them, as everyone does. And do my best to arrive with the truth and let the audience trust or discount what I have to say with all of that knowledge ahead of time. I don't know if that can be a formula for AI or search. But I just think the main thing that we're missing is that.
the sense of honesty and authenticity.
You're not always going to get it right, but you're trying instead of being propagandized.
And I think we all feel propagandized.
Yeah.
No, there's no doubt.
There's no doubt.
And I think that's probably why there's been this shift over to people listening to more podcasts.
Because in that long format discussions, you know, you can kind of get into the nuances of
different topics versus just having that like 10 seconds sound by that says like, yes, this is good or yes, this is bad.
Right.
All right, Todd Rick, it's the founder of Freespoke, also the co-owner of the Chicago Cubs.
By the way, how's, are you, is Chicago now just a, I guess a baseball, basketball, and hockey town?
You're not a football town anymore.
It's the Indiana Bears.
I don't know.
You know, I'm going to sit on the fact that we invented the NFL here in Chicago, and until that officially changes, I'm going to stick with it.
But hopefully, you know, I would like the Bears.
That would be awful for Chicago.
Yeah.
Now, the Bears need a new stadium.
So they're going to get a new stadium.
I hope it's somewhere convenient for me to go to games.
You're a two-team baseball town.
That's cool with you.
You like the White Sox there across town.
Oh, you know, I always like to make a joke about any time I meet someone who says,
oh, I want to invest or buy a Major League baseball team.
I'm like, you know, it's great.
You should buy the White Sox and move him to Nashville.
Move them to Timbuktu.
Move them to Tucson.
I don't care. Just move on.
Was it Obama, speaking of him?
Wasn't he a White Sox guy?
He was a Southside guy.
I'm not certain he was much of a baseball fan, but he was definitely Southside.
So if he was a baseball, to whatever degree he was a baseball fan, I'm sure he was a Sox fan.
I'll give that the honest side of things.
That's okay.
I'm okay with that.
He was a South Side guy.
Okay.
All right.
Todd Ricketts with us here today on Wheel Can Country. We appreciate it all the time, Todd, Todd, Todd, Todd,
we're going to check in with you guys. Check in with the Wilicia. Dan and Pat still with us here.
Teresa Gorman over on Facebook happens all the time. Both parties remain seated all the time for all kinds of reasons, even the unified comments. Just have a rule that everyone remains seated no matter what, move on. Drama gone, unless.
both parties like the drama.
We like it.
I think that's fair, Theresa.
We like the drama.
I do take this, Teresa.
I think it is awful, awful, disqualifying the Democrats sat for the proposition that you serve American citizens as your primary job duty.
I'm willing to hear them out if they feel like there was a lot baked into that in the lead-up in the similar way that we talk.
Why do you think they do?
Yeah, I want to hear the why.
How about that?
Exactly.
Because as someone who thinks a little more like them, that's insanity.
I would have absolutely stood up.
That's a crazy thing to do.
Like, what are you doing?
Right.
Izzy Wilshire says President Trump hit it.
Go ahead, go ahead, Pat.
I do think Congressman Donald's makes a good point, though, that like, you know,
there was so much that was, you know, assumed if you were clapping for Biden in that situation.
because of the way he set everything up.
It's like it is interesting.
It's like you're almost trapped in a political role
that you don't want to be trapped in.
And I just, you know, I do think that they were kind of,
they didn't really have a choice.
They might have been just Trump just played a really good political hand.
Elizabeth Warren had a couple of claps.
You know?
Well, that's why it's good to hear from them today.
That's why it would be good to hear from Democrats today.
Like, like, why did you sit during this?
This is awful.
Do you have an explanation?
And if you would have asked a Republican that in the wake of that Joe Biden clip that Bill Maher played, I think he would have got the answer.
Because he said he set it up with five minutes of blaming the right for political violence and political rhetoric and then asked us to do that.
And we're not willing to accept the blame that you laid at our feet for this.
Sure.
And then so I would love to hear from Democrats.
Yeah.
Right.
With all the talking about all the talk.
Izzy Wilshire says.
Issy Wilson says President Trump hit it out of the park last night, and once again, the
Rat Party Brigade looks stupid and embarrassed to themselves.
Rachel Goss says, unfortunately, many American citizens are only interested in displaying
their political strength.
Nothing else.
This is, Olivia Harbor, why can't they be fired for not wanting to help Americans?
How is that not the law?
I'm confused.
I think it's disqualifying.
Here's the thing that it's going to be.
It's not like they're going to be impeached or run out of office.
It's going to be the thing that it always is.
It's like it's up to you.
Their constituents are happy.
Will their voters hold that against them?
Probably, Dan.
Yeah.
They'd like it.
Which is shocking.
If they stood up and clapped, I bet they would have got voted out by the people who voted for them.
Tina Johnson says, I hope he's our next governor talking about Byron Donald's.
Lisa Marl says,
all of those who sat at the president's address do not support American values at all.
They never have.
They only support lining their own pockets.
I'll put out the last part about lining their own pockets because I think that's actually a bipartisan concern.
And President Trump brought that up last night when he talked about banning congressional stock trading.
Close you.
Took a shot at Nancy Pelosi.
Oh, my God.
But the point that Lisa makes in the beginning is the point that needs to be clarified here.
Do you support American values?
This is not partisan.
We can disagree about what some of those values are.
But serving the interest of Americans should not be a partisan value.
So, but their values are completely different.
The values are different.
That's what it is.
So we literally have two different sets of values that we're fighting over.
Correct.
And America has essentially been that way since it's founding.
Yep.
We've essentially lived in two Americas in a lot of ways.
Two things happen at the same time.
I know.
But we're getting to a point where the value differences seem existential.
Yes. Not marginal. You know what I mean? And has it always been that way in America? That part, I don't know. Has it always been existential on the difference in the values? Like, the right believes, and I do, that many of the values held by the left are not compatible with the values of America. And when I say the values of America, I don't think those are Republican values. I don't think those are my values. I think they are my values. But I mean, I think they're our.
values. Pick one. Now listen.
I'm curious.
Like if you had to pick one
to see what, because I could
kind of probably speak to the other side.
Couldn't we just use that
one? Like serving the interest
of American citizens? But what's the interest
that we're talking about? Well,
that's your job and not illegal immigrants.
Sure, yes, but there are qualifying
issues to that. Just like you said
before. Like what? Like if you don't
believe in all the things that you're
trying to say are American
values or, you know, there's no, no, no, but on this one, Dan, and maybe you don't like this
one, which, again, only highlights what happened last night, which you have said is insane.
Serving this is American citizens, if that's not one of your values, then you don't believe
in the nation state. You believe in something else. You believe in like this free flow of migration
globalist project, and that's incompatible with American values.
But it's incompatible. It's what Patrick said is the American values are different.
So which American values are we talking about?
This is what I'm trying to point out.
Well, even though what's that they espouse, like, that you're a representative, a representative
republic in their words, a democracy.
We're not a democracy.
We're a constitutional republic.
But that, in and of itself.
I think everyone could agree.
Like, if you don't serve the interests of Americans, you, well, apparently not.
Apparently not.
Right.
I don't know why.
They would make the argument that, like, if you think about immigration, you know,
they'd make the argument that, that we really, like,
immigrants should be welcome to America because of the past and that, you know, American values are pro-immigrants.
And so, therefore, they are supporting the values of America.
They should be a lot of being.
Okay, hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
But you're leaving out the word illegal.
Sure.
That's real big.
It's real big.
They don't look at it.
Well, they look at it, but I'll tell you how they see it.
They look at it as, yes, they're illegal, but we should give them the opportunity while they're here to be.
become citizens and not kick them out.
That's kind of their point, essentially.
I would love to believe that, but why did they, why did they open the border for four years?
Right.
I don't know.
I mean.
Yeah, but all those people had asylum.
Asylum.
So to them, to them, they were living under threat.
I'm not saying this is wrong or right.
I'm just trying to, you know, like, they would even believe that.
I don't think they believe that.
No.
I don't believe that.
I do think they believe, at this point, I do think it's a legitimate belief, like they genuinely believe that Donald Trump is an authoritarian or wants to be.
Oh, absolutely.
And they think their, my values are incompatible then with America.
That's what, that's the it.
When I saw, you know what my takeaway from last night when I was watching Rashida Taleb?
not Rashid Talib, Ilan Omar, and she was screaming at him, and the camera lingered on her, and you saw her eyes and her face.
Like, one thing I'm not going to take away from her is I think her reaction was authentic.
I think she felt everything.
I think that she genuinely felt whatever it is she felt.
She was not putting on a performance.
She felt whatever it is.
She could articulate about what she felt.
but her face looked
I don't know what the right word is
she looked like she could cry
when he was talking about Somali fraud
and things like that
yeah
I mean some of the people I was watching
the state of the union with were the exact same way
so
it wasn't just her
really
yeah dude
yeah
I had to turn it off at one point because it's getting too much
I was tired of
I was tired of qualifying things she was saying
some of the people you weren't with the brunch crew
last night. Do you want me
to hone this in or is that little too close to home
on some of the people you're with
last night? I think we have to end the show.
He wasn't at a bar watching the State of the Union.
I don't know who you're talking about.
Maybe they could watch Love is Blind or something.
We did turn on
below deck or, you know,
Love is Blind after.
Bring America together.
Just tell her she's living in the golden age.
Would you want to live in the
golden-a-a-a-a-to-have-movie face.
It's not, like, just saying, if you lived in Rome, if you were in 50 AD, right, would you
want to be the guy walking around, moping about the status of Rome?
You just need to look around and go, hey.
You can't believe this guy.
Look at Rome.
This is pretty awesome.
Look where we are.
We could be with the vandals up in Germany right now, but we're not.
We're in Rome.
You know what?
That's how she should feel.
Just tell her, you're in the golden age, sweetie.
They think the world's ending.
You're in the golden age.
Look around.
They think the world's ending, literally.
It's such a difference.
On her way to Starbucks, the world is ending.
On her way to get a vanilla frappuccino.
Tim Horton, she's Canadian.
A marcia, a caramel matcha at Starbucks.
She's in the end times.
I don't know who you're talking about.
I don't know who you're talking about still.
I don't either.
So, we're definitely not talking about someone I know.
I have no idea who you're speaking to.
Right.
Right.
All right.
Well, to no one in particular, to no one in particular,
enjoy the Golden Age.
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