Will Cain Country - Stephen A. Smith and Laura Ingraham Break Down The Election of President-Elect Donald Trump

Episode Date: November 8, 2024

Story #1: Will breaks down the election of President-Elect Donald Trump and its impact on America with the Host of ‘First Take’ on ESPN and ‘The Stephen A. Smith Show,’ Stephen A. Smith. Story #2: The mainstream media continues to melt down over the election of Donald Trump.  Story #3: Is Donald Trump one of the most seminal figures in American history? Putting it all into context with the Host of ‘The Ingraham Angle,’ Laura Ingraham. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, Stephen A. Smith, breaking down the president of the United States, Donald J. Trump, and America with my old friend from first tape. Two, continued meltdown among the discredited and now uninfluential mainstream. media. Three, putting Donald Trump into context, is he not one of the most seminal figures now in American history with the host of the Ingram angle, Laura Ingram. It's the Will Cain show normally streaming live every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock eastern time at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. But always on demand by subscribing at Apple or Spotify. I hope you subscribed on Apple or Spotify, so we show up in your feed every day.

And if you don't want to join us live, make sure you go over and subscribe to the Will Kane Show on YouTube. We had an absolutely monumental week, not just in the race for president and not just for the country, but here on the Will Kane show. Literally millions joined us Monday,

Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday to hear guests like Bill Himmer and Brett Baer, Brian Kilme, Dave Portnoy, Clay Travis, and Buck Sexton. You can go back and listen to any of those episodes in your Spotify or Apple Feed, but we're not going to slow it down this week this Friday, we're going to keep it going. We're bringing in Stephen A. Smith. We're

bringing in Laura Ingraham. So let's get right to it with story number one. My next guest might one day be on late night. He might host a variety show on ABC. He currently hosts a Stephen A. Smith show, which you can find on YouTube and everywhere else. He's in the dark, in a car, headed to the airport. Must be like in the Holland Tunnel. But he's also the host of first take, Stephen A. Smith. What's up, man? Yo, Matt, before we even get into it and I'm almost out of the tunnel, first of all, what the hell is that background? You're supposed to be in Texas. Are you in Nashville? I mean, what kind of a background is that, Will, King? I mean, that's number one.

This is small. That's Small Town America will, Stephen A. That's what that is. I'm listening. I'm listening. That's what it is, Small Town America. And I must confess, listen, I'm a busy man, but you're my boy. And I said, I got to come on your show because for once, I mean, you being a cowboy fan, I mean, you're not used to wins. And so this election that Trump just won, congratulations, because that's about the only victory you'll have all football season. We know that much. So I didn't want to get that out the way for you.

I didn't want to get that out the way. Stephen A. What's up, man? I got a call from my, I got a call from my buddy Pete Hicks out the other day. He said, hey, well, how do you feel? And I said, listen, I'm not as politically oriented as someone like you. I'm, you know, I like ideas and philosophy. And I pour most of my emotion into sports.

And, you know, it is what it is. This election, Stephen A, I feel like the Cowboys, the Mavericks, and the Longhorns wrapped together have won the national championship. I feel like this is a victory for America. Mm-hmm. I don't blame you for feeling that way. I don't. You know, I don't.

I didn't vote for him. But I want all the conservatives out there to understand. I didn't vote for him because I'm anti-conservatism. I didn't vote for him because he scares me because of how he acts and what he pays attention to and what he prioritizes sometimes. And that was just my decision. But in light of the way the thing this country was going, it's strong lean to the progressive left,

essentially hijacking the liberal party, the Democratic Party. And the things that they did along the way, I don't think there's any question that the American people made their voices heard. And this isn't one of those situations where I think we can look at it and say, but you know what? I mean, that's just a conservative and we're divided. Actually, the election does something very, very different. He didn't win. He annihilated her. I mean, this was a romp.

Right. And when you look at the fact, I think he had won like 48. the states, like 48 states for crying out loud, that's not about this country being divided. That is about this country in its own way, galvanizing in a way that says, we need to come together and stop some of this nonsense that's been taking place, you know, with the extreme left. And we need to become a bit more centered. And the only way to do that is to accept what Trump was purporting to propose. And I think that when you look at it from that standpoint, point, I don't think any of us are in a position to argue against that right now.

We can talk about the economy. We can talk about how Biden inherited inflation at one and a half percent and it ballooned to 9.1 under him before it came down a little bit. But there's no getting around him signing an executive order on day one to open the borders and the kind of problems that caused to our, you know, our system, our way of life, et cetera, et cetera. There's no way around that. And so to me, the Democrats brought it on themselves, and a lot of independence, along with the entire conservative community, made their voices heard.

And it wasn't just white folks. Right. It wasn't just female. It was white males, white females. It was Hispanics. It was some of some of black men. Black folks did it as well. Black men.

Black men. All of that. He won, fair, it square. It was a completely dominant performance. And Donald Trump is our new president of the United States. say, period. Stephen A, what do you make? So I think the last numbers were 20, 21% of black men voted for Trump.

Let's put that into historical context because anybody that goes, well, 80% still voted for Kamala. You got to understand something. Republicans get like 5%, 9% in the past. So for him to get 20 is phenomenal and a huge statement. And, you know, I remember, Stephen, I'm going to share this story. and I don't even know if you know this, but like, you do, I'm sure you do. You know, when I was at ESPN doing first take, I remember sitting down with a mutual friend of ours who runs the show and talking about, did a focus group, right?

And you and I, you and I had a lot of debates about race, which I may talk about in a second. And, you know, I remember saying, somebody telling me, Will, the black audience doesn't like you. I'm like, well, first of all, that's not what I feel and hear when I run into the audience, but I say what I feel. I say what I think, you know, and I'm not sitting here trying to win over some audience or not. Donald Trump had something similar in a much bigger fashion, says what he feels, says what he thinks, and he won 20% of black men. Well, a couple of things.

Number one, don't just tell part of the story. Tell the other side of that story. The other side of that story is that you had your guy that was telling you, don't give a damn about what people think. Be yourself. Ain't nothing wrong with you. That would be me. That's number one.

Number two, don't compare yourself to Donald Trump because, again, we're talking about behavior. We're talking about, you know, he may, some people might deduce that he doesn't mean anything by it or whatever. I don't go that route. It's not a matter of whether you believe him or not. It's a matter that as an American voter, somebody that's out there working your tail off day in and day out to make ends meet to provide for yourself and your family and whatever

you, don't scare to live in hell out of people. And the reason I break stuff like that up, let's say, for example, when we told it, when when Donald Trump would bring up bolding, when Donald Trump would bring up Bolden and how he said all he wanted to do was bomb, bomb, bomb everybody. And I got to a point where I thought it would be good to have him in the room because anytime I was sitting across from somebody, they were scared that he was going to want to bomb and they would give in to what I wanted. You know, I think that that's emblematic of how Donald Trump thinks, whether he means it

or not. Smart. Yeah, you can say it's smart. And I'm not saying it's not. But the incendiary rhetoric scares the living hell out of people. And so when you walked back to when he was in, you know, or, you know, Kastiel. Stephen A's breaking up on us a little bit here. We're losing a little bit of Stephen A here somewhere.

I'm sorry, can you got me? You got me back now? You got me back now, Will? I think, yeah, I got you back. You got caught by the swamp lands of New Jersey there for a moment, but we got you back. I'm sorry. No, I'm actually going through Staten Island right now. going to Kennedy Airport after the Arizona Bridge, my bad.

But what I'm saying is, is that when you speak in that fashion, it scares the living hell out of people. And that's not always a good thing when you walk in the streets of America and you're having to deal with the kind of stuff that you're having to deal with. And that's the kind of stuff that I hold against them, more so than policy. I believe that when you're a conservative, you win office, you have a right to implement conservative policies. Just like if you're a liberal, you have a different vision,

and you win an election fairs where you have the right to implement liberal policies. But your behavior should be that of a statesman when you're the president of the United States. Okay, hold on. And that's what I'm going to be about that. So what people may or may not know about Stephen A is that you are an independent. You're registered independent. You voted for Kamala. I am here to attest that you are an independent thinker.

You are definitely not one of these people who is on the team, right? whatever that may be. I think you get a little far out there on some of the issues when it comes to race, and you and I have had some open debates that anyone can see on YouTube about that. But you are independent, okay? What I want to get to you about is this.

One of the biggest losses here is the media. Their ability to accurately translate information to the public, right? And for the public to believe them. And I feel like Stephen A. And you know, I've had this conversation on the Stephen A. Smith show. When you say you're scared of him,

I feel like you are captured by a little bit of that inaccuracy and a false reality given to you by the media. Like most of it's out of context. Most of it's clipped and cut. And most of it's not real. I don't think you have a real reason to be scared. That's fair. That's fair when you brought up the part about clipped and cut.

You're absolutely right. Because I don't get to watch them all the time. I've watched them sometime and I don't like what I've seen in regards to that. And if I saw him to his face, I would have told him. But nevertheless, it still doesn't excuse what you've highlighted about the media, which is right on point. The bias is inexcusable. There's no excuse for anybody in media be that way, none. And I will never defend.

I will never, ever, ever defend that. I don't give a damn. I've told people I was voting for Kamala Harris, right? But I also was critical of the Democratic Party. and I was fair to people like yourself, Hannity, and others who were kind enough from the conservative side to come on my show and to make sure the audience

heard what you had to say and to acknowledge whatever valid points you make. And so for me, I sit here today and I have absolutely positively no problem with him being I'm turning my phone and I have absolutely

no problem with him being. Because regardless of whatever majority of American people said, look, it's the economy, stupid. It's immigration. It's crime in the streets. And it's such a strong tilt to the progressive left where we're talking about transgender issues and culture wars and identity politics and all of this stuff. We're sick of all of that. That makes total, total sense to me and I'm good with it. Even though I didn't vote for him, I'm not as taken aback and feeling like nothing but gloom and doom and the world is coming to an end because the person that I voted for didn't win. Because to be honest with you, I wasn't that damn high on her. I was just scared of him and how he would be. And that was my issue. But I

don't blame you or others for not feeling that way based on their issues. You're absolutely right. I have two things I want to hit with you before we let you go. You know, you've said this a lot. And this is kind of interesting to hear from you that the woke left crazy stuff went way too far. And I know you. I know some of this stuff would be not in your wheelhouse. I feel like a lot of this stuff started Stephen A when we were together. A lot of this stuff started really like in 16, I don't know, in that. range. I was on first take with you. Now, we weren't doing gender stuff and stuff like that, but the idea of wokeness and everything is racist, this started when we were together. And I'll say one other thing. You weren't, honestly, Max was way more predictable against me

than you during that time, but you were definitely not someone I would have ever predicted, would wake up one day and go, this is too much, this is too far. Don't you look back on it a little bit and go all of the craziness started back then when we were together like in 1718 me will my honest question and my honest answer to that is no because i think that sometimes as well as you know me and we are buddies i think sometimes what you don't get about me is that i'm going on a case by case basis even when it's race and what i'm doing is giving you a perspective that you may not have because of the lens that you're viewing something from it's not to say that every instances that way.

There were a lot of times that I agreed with you, but I would tell you, your will, this is how other folks feel. I get it, but you have to understand why they might not get it. And a lot of times we were arguing about that, as opposed to you and Max, who were really, really arguing across those ideological lines. I don't get caught up in all of that. Racism exists. Prejudice exists.

There's no way around that. But everything ain't about race. Everything ain't about racism. Everything ain't about prejudice. And sometimes when you make that argument too much, you diluted and it falls on deaf ears. Like one of the things that I would come at you with and you laughed when I said this sometimes. I said, well, did it ever occur to you, you might feel as passionate as you do about it because you're sick and tired of hearing other people whistling into the wind about that stuff all the damn time? You're frustrated.

And you've been waiting to get at people to challenge them on it because you're sick and you're just going to. you've spent most of your life having to listen to it made perfect sense if you hear something enough that's what's going to happen the democrats will come at us and oh my goodness everything the conservatives do you got to engage in the demagoguery you got to go at the conservatives you got to say they must hate black people they don't care about this they don't care about that well wait a damn minute isn't it possible that their policy on this particular issue might be better than yours and if you feel otherwise then tell me that don't tell me he's white he racist he doesn't doesn't care about you. That's why you shouldn't go with that side. Show me how your policies are

better. And that to me is how I've always been. And you're all right that a lot of it percolated even more since 2016 after Trump got in office. But it's clear that in some instances, people were setting the stage to make that argument in 2020. And in 2020, it worked. In 2024, it did it. One thing you're saying that's fair. And I do try to be self-aware about. is don't just be reactionary. If I think everybody's yelling it's racist too much, that doesn't mean every single instance is not racist. I have to look at it.

And I try to, Stephen A, I truly do. And I think you would attest to that on a case-to-case basis. Some of our most famous ones were talking about Kate Smith, you know, and the statue in Philadelphia. Again, that's all over YouTube. All right, man, I don't know when your deal's up. I was going to ask you, I was going to text you. Let me say this to you real quick.

because it's something that you need to know to give you a perfect example of what we're talking about. My family, my sisters did not like you. They couldn't stand it, Wilkie. Okay?

And quite frankly, they thought you were racist at times. They met you and they've loved you ever since. And they said, we had him all wrong. We had him all wrong, all wrong.

We were wrong about him. Yes. Yes, what I'm saying... I didn't know that. I like that. Just like you can... Just like others misconstrue you, you've misconstrued people from time to time based on a bigger...

Yeah, sure. It happens. I'm human. Say hi to Carmen for me. Say hi to Carmen. Yes. I will. You know, here we go.

By the way, Samatra and Juven, Somatra and Juvia are right. Oh, hey, ladies. By the way, Stephen A, one of the commenters says Cota Reds, says on YouTube, man, that Democratic Wi-Fi should switch to Republican Wi-Fi, you'll get a better connection. We're fighting through it. Last question. They're probably right.

They're probably right, but I'm driving. I'm not still. That's what it is. And I'm driving. All right, man. I don't know when your deal is. I don't know when your deal's up. I was going to ask you.

I was going to text you. But we don't have to talk about it on air. But where's the deal? You have said late night, late night, right? Okay. You want to maybe one day be late night. I don't know, ABC, whatever. All the dudes came out last night.

Fallon, Kimmel, Colbert, they gave funerals, right? I mean, absolute. Jimmy Kimmel cried, Stephen A. And I know he's in the family over there at ABC Disney. He cried, literally cried. Here's my question for you. Now, I want to know what you would have done last night. Well, what I would have done is what you saw me do on the Stephen A. Smith show on YouTube

in I Heart Radio. I acknowledged we got a new press. president. He rompter and American people have spoken. You can say what you want. But this country has said, we went too far left. Enough's enough. We got to stop this nonsense. It's about our pocketbooks. And it's about safety. Period. And if you don't like it, get over it. And so for me, I would have tried, because obviously it's late night, I would have tried to be a bit funny and humorous with it and let everybody know it's not gloom and doom we've dealt with a lot in our society and we're going to deal with a lot more in years to come long after Donald Trump is gone no matter

what you think but in the end it is always good when the American people stand up and there is unified as they came across this past election when you win 48 states when you see whether it's red or blue all over the place that's the American people speak can we don't like what we have we want this and when you have that you have to listen and so it would not have been a post-mortem it would not have certainly would not have been me crying i'm not crying over the fact that Donald trump is the president do i like it no but the fight the bottom line is the economy was doing well for COVID it could make sure we could get back to that and the bad we got to weed out with anybody else.

That's how it goes. This is America. Well, I'll say it. It's the best. Sometimes what best as your Democrat. What's best ain't that pleasant. That's life. Your Wi-Fi's cutting out a little bit, but I'll say it because you can't.

You would do a phenomenally exponentially better job than Jimmy Kimmel on ABC. And that's the fact. But for now, you can check him out to Stephen A. Smith Show on YouTube. and first take on ESPN. Always love talking to you. It's always a great conversation. Always was. Always was.

No matter how people felt. Always is. Always will be. I appreciate it. Stephen A. Smith. All the best to you, man. Always hear whenever you need me, my man. You take care yourself.

We'll talk soon. All right. Take care. There you go. Stephen A. Smith. Of the Stephen A. Smith show, make sure you check out the Stephen A. Smith show on YouTube. And I always appreciate a conversation,

especially when we have disagreement with someone like Stephen A. Smith. Coming up, Saki continues the meltdown on the discredited, of the discredited mainstream media. Following Fox's initial donation to the Kerr County Flood Relief Fund, our generous viewers have answered the call to action across all Fox platforms and have helped raise $6.5 million. Visit go.combe, forward slash TX flood relief to support relief and rebuilding efforts.

This is Jason Chaffetz from the Jason and the House podcast. Join me every Monday to dive deeper into the latest political headlines and chat with remarkable guests listen and follow now at foxnewspodcast.com or wherever you download podcasts welcome back to the will kane show streaming live every monday through thursday at 12 o'clock eastern time always available by subscribing on apple or spotify i have to admit i haven't been able to turn away from msnbc i don't know it's like a spy cam inside the visitor's locker room after a gigantic loss and so i took note when jinzaki's so worried about something we might be excited about Elon Musk, direct line to the White House, Department of Government Efficiency.

Here's Jinsaki. I think this is a big, huge, huge part of the story that it's hard to even digest fully at this moment. But you have Elon Musk who owns Twitter X, whatever we're calling it these days, X, who is a disinformation propagandist and now could potentially have a direct line to the Oval Office. Elon Musk, oh no, with a direct line to the Oval Office. Let's only hope the Department of Government Efficiency is something real and that happens because God knows we don't need. Has anyone ever been to the DMV?

Has anyone ever waited in line? How about this? Have you ever tried to get an appointment for a new driver's license? In Texas, they literally are booked out months. And you don't think that's emblematic of something happening in every government department? you've got two years, but most people say you've got 100 days, your first 100 days of your presidency. And if Donald Trump has the presidency, the Senate, and the House, you have to go all in. Why? Because the pendulum always swings.

There is no such thing as a permanent majority. That's what they thought in the 90s of the Republicans. That's what they thought with George W. Bush. That's what they thought with Barack Obama and the Democrats, but it always swings. So it's only incentivizes you to do what needs to be done. that includes the border absolute solve the southern border there is notes today i saw a report from newsweek that hamas has already said they want to end the war they're ready to try to end the war with the election of donald trump watch ukraine watch vladimir and zalinski get to the table

watch it happens stephen a smith can be scared by the way by the fact that trump is smart enough to put a guy like john bolton in the room who he now doesn't like because he is so crazy about bombing everybody, that everybody else, all the other countries back off, like, all of a sudden it's good cop, bad cop, Donald Trump. But to tie this together, put in Elon Musk. Javier Malay did this, is doing this in Argentina, and it is rehabilitating the Argentine economy. You can do it here.

Cut the DMV down. Cut as an emblem, as a symbol. Cut this government down to a size that you could drown it in a bathtub. Cut it down. and put RFK in charge of getting America healthy again. It's going to take a while for them to all get it right. Not days, not months, maybe years. And maybe never if the way they are internalizing this election

is the way they're suggesting. Everyone, including Latinos and Black men, are racist. Coming up, don't go anywhere. Laura Ingram on the Will Kane Show. From the Fox News Podcasts Network. Hey there, it's me, Kennedy. Make sure to check out my book. podcast. Kennedy saves the world. It is five days a week, every week. Download and listen at

Fox Newspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. Is Donald Trump one of the most now important figures in the history of America? It's the Will Cain show, streaming live every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern time. Subscribe on YouTube or subscribe on Apple or Spotify. You'll never miss a moment like the moment that we're about to have right here right now with the host of the primetime show the Ingram angle on Fox News, Laura Ingram. What's up, Laura? Hey, you know, I think this is the first time. This is so weird.

I believe this is one of the first times I've ever done a show like this. Like, I'm doing it with you. Really? But, like, I don't think I've done, have I done a podcast like this? I don't think I have. Isn't that pathetic? So, you know. Who are you asking?

Is that an assistant? Is that one of your kids? Who are you asking if you? ever done a digital show or a podcast. Well, Haley, who runs my life. She's my, um, Fox. A assistant doesn't capture what Haley does for me. That's just a, I mean, she's more important than I am to my show.

All right, well, we have about 20 minutes here together, but here's the deal I want to make with you. First of all, I'm honored that your first is with me here on the Will Cain show. But we should do this again, because you know what I'd like to do when we have a little more time, Laura, is exactly what Donald Trump did. with Joe Rogan, with Theo Vaughn, with Andrew Schultz, with the Nelk Boys, and that is display who he is. And I know for someone who's on TV every night for an hour,

people know who you are. How about this? They know what you think, Laura. But, you know, the U I see behind the scenes at Madison Square Garden, the U that has, how many adopted daughters? I'm not sure. I have three adopted daughters. Is it two?

Three. Yeah. I have one. I'm not sure people know that, Laura. Yeah, I have one daughter who is 19. She's a college freshman at Texas A&M. She's from Guatemala, and then I have two sons. One is 14, Nico, and one is 16, Dmitri, and they're both from Russia.

So we have four different genetic pools in my family orbit, and it's three teenagers, just me. So you can imagine it's always something new, so it's fun. We have a lot of fun. I want to hear those stories. I really, really do, to the extent that you want to. to share them with me and the public. But for now today, Laura, I think that if Donald Trump had lost this election, we would have had a legitimate conversation about the future of the Republican

party. Like, what happens? Does MAGA represent the future? Is there going to be some kind of return to Neo-Con Mitt Romney-esque republicanism? But the fact that he's won, and for that matter, J.D. Vance won. You're set up now for 12 years of Donald Trump, and I'm not going to get ahead of my skis, but maybe some years after that of J.D. Vance. But definitely a Republican Party that now is owned by America first. Do you think this is permanent, this reformation of the Republican Party? Yes, and I would submit that even if he had not won, we were never going back to, never going back to kind of the pro-China, pro-immigration amnesty, more George Bush Republican Party, nothing against, I adore President Bush. But that, you know, we have to remember as we romanticize

administrations passed, I believe when George W. Bush left office, he was at like a 28% approval rating. We think we think Biden's 38% approval rating is not good. But so, and again, this is nothing personal. It's just the policies that really did not work. And certainly we're not attracting the working class people that Reagan brought into the party in 1980 and then grew in 1984. And so Trump was really long before his time, when I first met him in 1998, he had already begun to tap into that sensibility about the country. And I really believe it's because the people he worked with on his buildings and at his properties, those were working people. And I know you know this. Well, but when he's with, when he's in at his job sites, those are the people he

really he relates to them and it's odd right because you're a billionaire how do you relate to the working people but like Reagan did and is in a different way but as Reagan did he really was able to understand like what's going on what do you mean you can't afford your daughter's you know wedding you can't you don't have a place to do the reception do it at my club you know of course you can do like he he he just worked with people on a daily basis who shared their struggles and And I think that ticked him off when he saw the incompetence in D.C. And so he had been mulling this over in his head for many years before he ran for president. But then when he ran for president in 2015, you know, he wiped the floor with everybody.

I mean, I joke with him that, like, he has now beaten the Bushes. He's beaten, of course, hit the Clintons. He beat Biden. He beat 90 minutes. He beat Biden. He beat Cheney, and now he's beaten the Obamas and Kamala Harris. So no one else in the Republican Party can say that they kind of, you know, really cut through the old bipartisan establishment as he had done. So even if he had lost, this was never going back to that old party.

That old party, sadly, was a failure. It didn't succeed economically, for sure. that is politically what context to say and I think that it's unassailably right about everyone he's beat and then you layer on top of that that he beat every basically bureaucracy within the United States government including the Department of Justice he beat of course and this can sound cliched but it can't be overstayed how powerful at least it has been in the past the media industrial complex the political information complex I mean he had to beat them over and over and over um he had to to be the ability to stay on the ballot, even to be on the ballot, and of course, two attempts

on his life. Like, as a human being, as an individual, I, yeah, he really is one of the most seminal figures, I think at this point it's fair to say in American history. I think he's one of the most seminal figures in American history. Without a doubt, I mean, before the election on my show, I was saying that if he, regardless of what happened, there would only be two people who 100 years from now, kids would be studied. And I submit it wouldn't be Barack Obama because as a president, what did he accomplish? Obamacare?

Well, it's turned out to be a big challenge for the country. So what did he really accomplish? But it would be Reagan and it would be Trump. So Trump was transformative. I mean, for nine years in a row, he's been the most famous person on the planet, nine years in a row. And even before that, obviously he was very well known. But he has been the driving force in America. politics in cultural conversation and among the media.

And with everything thrown at him, he has emerged victorious and vindicated. And he kept his fight and defiance against all odds. And I would submit, and I was ready to write this if he hadn't won. he he was up against the most powerful political machine ever assembled in world history now what do i say that one point two billion dollars raised just in the last few months to defeat him all the lawfare that you referenced the civil suits that were fraudulent the corrupted media figures who knew knew he wasn't hitler or a fascist or a dictator and a new democracy wasn't going to end. And guess what, Will? They didn't care. They said what they thought they had to say

to push Kamala Harris across the finish line. And he kept going. And he hit back. And a lot of us are like, don't, don't hit back. But you know what he decided? He said, he decided, I believe, I believe this is what happened. He decided I would rather run this campaign my own way then run it and with other people's advice and win because I don't want to owe anyone anything. He didn't want to owe anyone anything.

And even with Elon must help, I mean, Trump's like Sinatra. I'm going to do it my way. So he did it his way and it was rough and tumble. Like he, every time he's hit, he hits back. Sometimes we're like, okay, just let it go. That's not his instinct.

His instinct is if you will come after me, I'm going to hit you back. I don't care who you are. I don't care if you're some, you know, third-rate celebrity. I don't care if you're an internet figure or an influencer. If you have an audience and you hit me, I'm going to take you out. Now, that's how we do things in politics, but that's how he does things. And for him, along with the other outreach to Latinos and African-Americans, and it worked.

And so it was a substance. What do you think? It wasn't a communications campaign. This was a campaign of substance and policy will. And I would submit he won because he was right on those issues, the big issues that matter of the economy and the border. And transgender stuff and that radicalism. You know him.

You know him, Laura. I know him a little bit. You know him much better. I was at one of my son's soccer, actually both of my son's soccer practice last night. And I was talking to one of the dads. And it's like, this is what the dad said. He goes, he's got to be on drugs. And the reason that he said that is we just laid out everything that he had to fight, right?

Just, okay, now let's talk about how much energy it takes to have that fight. And he's 78 years old. And the night before the election, he gave a rally that ended at 2 a.m. 2 a.m. And I don't think you can actually somehow quantify. You can't put a number. And I'm not even sure many of us, including me, could actually conceptualize the amount of energy required to be in a constant fight to go against, all of those things you just rattled off, and then to give the time that you do

to rally, rally, rally, interview, interview, constant, it's like he should be studied, not just in the history books, he should be studied in the medical journals. Like, how are you doing this at 78? Well, I think we won't see anyone like him again, not in our lifetime and probably not ever. I mean, think about the other presidents

that have had staying power in our conversation and in our daily life. you think of Andrew Jackson. He's on, he's still on the $20 bill, right? Andrew Jackson, you don't want to be like Andrew Jackson. I'm like, check out the $20 bill, okay, because he's still, he's still that transformational. So I think he really felt a sense of a sense of deep urgency, which I joke with my kids, Will, that where's the sense of urgency? Like, oh, yeah, I have a paper. I'll get to that. Oh, gosh, me too. has this emergency. Get it done. And when someone comes to him, Will, and they say, well,

sir, we could, we could work on that trade provision, but there's a, there's a, there's a there's a way to do that that might, you know, and he's like, no, no, no, no, give me a solution to this. You can argue in front of me, but give me a solution to this issue that we're facing in Mexico. I want, I want you two to argue in front of me and I want a solution by tomorrow, close a business. He sends people running for, and that's not, again, That's the businessman. That's not the way government usually works. But it works for the people because guess what we actually get to solutions,

which is what he did when he was president. He got unbelievable amounts of work done for the people that a lot of people won't ever talk about. But you and I know what it was and how hard it was to do these trade deals. He did more than anyone, I think, in recent memory. Biden hasn't had one trade deal, one significant trade deal in his administration. Trump had, I believe, eight. six or eight i forget big

i have a 16 year old and a 13 year old i'm so happy to hear i'm not the only one yelling about a sense of urgency i do it on sports i do it on homework kids yeah same age kids come on come on do it now like aggressive be aggressive i have a question well did your parents ever ask about your homework or even know what you were working on

my mom did a little bit my dad certainly did not and i'll be real with you or i don't i'm not very, I'm way, and I'm not saying this proudly. I know that I'll look back on this with fault, um, that I don't. My, my, I do talk about sports a lot. Um, as a metaphor for life. I hope it's just as a metaphor for life. Um, but, you know, it's kind of funny that you ask that because the more I push in sports, the less results I get and the less I push in homework, the better they do. Like they help, because they own it themselves and they have to take care of themselves. And they had their own sense of duty and they do a good job and I'm proud of them because they don't

have anybody riding their ass. Well, I think I could learn a little from you because I think I'm like too much. That's just luck. No, but you know, I don't sit over there. I sit over their shoulder but I have to constantly ride them. And it kind of goes back to politics. Like you have to have a sense of urgency on your own and he had that as a candidate to get it done. And to deliver these new results for the for the republican party and he has that when he governs and he had a record to show for it right i mean if you run and you say well i want to do this this every other schlub wants to says they're going to improve standard of living or or you know get the border closed but what's your record okay here it is he holds it up this is what we did

so no matter what kama herr said it didn't really comport with his record the record was incredibly successful. We all know how much money we had in 2019 versus today and cost of living. We all knew that. So nothing she said about that made any sense. One of the lessons we learned from Donald Trump as a communicator in 16, 15, 16 was repetition, repetition, because you never know how hard it is to get something to break through into somebody's brain. So people say to me at Fox, I didn't know you were a lawyer. Yeah, yeah. I don't talk about it much, I guess. I don't see the window of the opening into the conversation to say I went to law school. But you, people do know this, but I'm not sure everybody knows. Who'd you clerk for? Did you clerk for Thomas? Who did you clerk for? Yeah, Clarence Thomas.

That's incredible, which if I could pick one justice. Scalier, Thomas, it would have been a toss-up, which I would want to clerk for, one of the two. And Justice Scalia was a very close friend because I was very close friends with his family when I was in the Reagan administration right out of college in 1987, so I was really close with Justice Scalia. We missed him a lot. But, yeah. Do you think Thomas will retire? I don't know. Will Thomas retire in the next four years? I wouldn't tell you if I knew. People are talking about. But I don't know. People are talking about Thomas. The cone of silence in the clerk, which is now 120 clerks

or whatever. We're like, no, I don't know. Is it a fraternity, sorority? type thing do you guys all kind of keep in touch the clerks of clarence thomas and he he's amazing because he has such a great family um of clerks and he he treats them all like they're his kids so you have a problem we you know justice help me with a not not legal problem i just saying personal stuff he's he's one of my close close friends amazing for him um there are rumors that both olito or thomas could retire giving trump two new appointees to the supreme court which would be huge because you do need youth along with the right person and the right ideology. Don't want to get in a Ruth Bader Ginsburg situation.

But the reason I bring up the reason I bring up you clerking for Thomas, DOJ, Jack Smith right now, it looks like he's being pulled off. I actually heard MSNBC with no self-awareness this morning talking about Trump is going to look to dismantle the bureaucracy of the DOJ. I'm like, good, good, yes, absolutely. What do you think happens now to all of the lawfare against Donald Trump? Well, it will go away, and it has to because of longstanding Justice Department policy. And you're not going to prosecute a sitting president.

There's an open question and never remembers the Paula Jones case against Bill Clinton back in 1993. There's an open question about whether some of these civil matters or future civil matters, I should say, would continue. But the Jack Smith, Judge Chuckkin, we won't be hearing from them for a while. And, of course, the Atlanta case, that's also going to go away. But that doesn't mean that there's, if the Republicans lose the House of Representatives, that doesn't look like they will lose this time around. But if they're going to have a challenging midterm, perhaps, that's a total, that's a different kettle of fish. And Gavin Newsom has already assembled his resistance squad over there in California.

And they're getting ready to gear up for lawsuit. against the administration to stop them from implementing some of these deportation orders and also cutting back on some of the bureaucracy will at EPA, at Energy Department, really across the federal government where we have these duplicative agencies and these hundreds and hundreds of staffers who literally do nothing every day. I mean, nothing that helps anybody's life in the United States. So the whole federal bill has to be cut and formed. And I think that's going to be a big, big effort on the part of the administration early on. All right. Last thing here with Laura Ingraham, you've been not only a clerk for the Supreme Court. You've been in the media for a long time,

obviously incredibly successful. There's no bigger, perhaps no bigger indictment in this entire week cycle than the total lack of not just credibility. That was long established, but influence of mainstream media, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, and so on. Newspapers. I always have wondered this. Who did I have yesterday that had some sense of optimism? Somebody here on the Will Cane show said, I think there will be people fired. Tyrus said he thinks there will actually be accountability.

You can't be that wrong, that propagandist, and have that happen. I can't imagine the executives at Comcast and Time Warner and Disney look at this with pride. You think there's anything, or it's just way beyond salvage what's happening at every other media network? Well, I think that if there isn't some reckoning with what happened, what they did, then their influence will continue to decline. Right now, I think a lot of these institutions will have a hard time ever recovering their credibility.

I mean, think about it. The man who's going to be the next president of the United States was branded as Hitler by major media figures. years, people given a platform on major media outlets to say completely false and defamatory things repeatedly. Now, that man is the president of the United States with a majority American support of America's support. So what are those media outlets now, when you follow it through, what are they saying about America? America's Hittlerian? Really? So there's a complete lack of of understanding of the struggles of everyday people. So everyday people look at the media as out of touch elites who only talk to each other.

And they don't really talk. They talk at America. They don't listen or bother to, you know, take in the struggles or the concerns of parents out in Loudoun County, not too far for where I am. or, you know, folks living out Lewis, who are who lead over crime issues. They lost a little bit of Laura right there. No, those are Americans. There we go. Those are Americans.

All right, Laura, first of all, thanks again for making this the first time you've done one of these. I would love to have you back with a little more of who is Laura Ingram conversation about you as a person. I'm also going to ask you to favor. Donald Trump is the most vilified and yet successful and heroic figure, as you pointed out, one of them in American history. One of the most vilified people in American history, although at a lower level, is Clarence Thomas. And I am endlessly fascinated by him. I think that Clarence Thomas and Justice Scalia are in the top five of most influential, important Supreme Court justices. I would love to meet him.

I would love to interview him. And one day I'm going to ask you, Laura, and I would love to talk to Clarence Thomas. I know he doesn't do it much, if ever. I'm sure he would like you very much. And Will, it's so great to be on Fox and have gotten to know people like you and all of our colleagues, but you've been such a great success. And one of the many wonderful things about you, Will, is that you always have a great sense of optimism about the country. And it's infectious. I know people watching all, they get it. They feel it. You're multi-talented. You have a, you know, you have a breadth of understanding of politics, the culture, and sports. And you make it very easy to understand for me and for every. everybody. So hats off. If I had a hat on, I would say hats off to you. And you know, I don't give compliments lightly. Everybody knows that about me. So if I compliment you will, it really means something. Thank you so much. I'm flattered. I really am. I'm really flattered. Laura,

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