Will Cain Country - The Battle for Western Civilization: Mamdani v. Kirk (ft. Jennifer Sey and Bradley Devlin)

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

Story 1: Do Americans take Western values for granted? If support for New York City Mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani is any indicator, then the answer is a clear yes. Will reacts to a recent clip of Mamdani defending the wording of his intention to raise taxes on “richer and whiter neighborhoods,” (yes, that’s the exact wording) before explaining how the enormity of Western culture might make it difficult for younger Americans to realize just how good they have it. Story 2: Will is joined by the Founder of XX-XY Athletics, Jennifer Sey to discuss the sharp drop in non-traditional gender identification among students and why this appears to be the case. Will and Jennifer then react to a clip of California Gubernatorial Candidate Betty Yee expressing support for allowing biological males in the female category when the Olympics comes to L.A., as well as Keira Knightley facing backlash over her defense of author J.K. Rowling. Story 3: Politics Editor for The Daily Signal, Bradley Devlin helps Will analyze the growing cottage industry of liberal podcast hosts, like Bill Maher, developing a ‘strange new respect’ for President Donald Trump, before sharing his outlook on the 2026 midterm elections as the Supreme Court begins reconsidering Section Two of the Voting Rights Act. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@willcainnews) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠@WillCain   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, go west, young man, but which way goes the West? The UK describes cultural nationalism as a form of terrorism. We have a choice in the West. Zohamam Dhani or Charlie Kirk Two Young people identifying as non-binary or trans seems to be in a free fall proof that we just lived through

a social contagion with the founder of XXXY Jennifer Saye Three Kamala Harris claims to be the most qualified Canada ever to run for president. With the politics editor of the Daily Signal, Bradley Devlin. It is Will Cain Country on a busy Wednesday. A beautiful Tuesday preceded this busy Wednesday.

A Tuesday wherein Charlie Kirk was awarded the Presidential Medal of of freedom. Charlie Kirk's words, Charlie Kirk's honor, and Charlie Kirk's life provide for us a choice, a choice we see displayed right now in New York City, seemingly a choice already made in Europe. Which way goes the West? Let's get into it with story number one. Yesterday, President Donald Trump awarded Charlie Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom, some 30 days after his assassination, and on his would have been 32nd birthday, President Trump granted an honor that has been given to those like Martin Luther King, Jr., to Charlie Kirk. Here are the words of President Trump.

He was assassinated in the prime of his life for boldly speaking the truth, for living his faith and relentlessly fighting for a better and stronger America. I love this country, and that's why this afternoon it's my privilege to posthumously award Charles, James Kirk, our nation's highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Thank you. While the previous president awarded the Medal of Freedom to the likes of Bono, this president gave the award to a man who fought for the survival. of Western civilization. And that fight rages today. In some places, that fight may be lost. Europe is teetering. Europe is on the brink. Germany, France, Italy, and the UK may have been lost to Western civilization. We've talked on this program about declining birth rates,

the birth rates which have fallen to something like 1.3 in countries like Spain and Italy. 1.3 is a death spiral. for a native population, one that it's almost impossible from which to return. Meanwhile, the migrant population say in France, the Muslim migrant and African populations have a birth rate of something like six and eight. What does that mean for the values in the future of the West? Well, we have an example in the UK. In the UK, this past summer, the government put out a document for prevent duty training. It's at Gov.U.K.

And that document reads as follows, terrorist ideologies. Terrorist ideologies, some of which include what they term extreme right-wing ideologies defined as terrorism. Quote, we define extreme right-wing terrorism as the active or vocal support of ideologies that advocate discrimination or violence against minority groups. the three most common subcategories of extreme right-wing terrorist ideologies, and their narratives are, one, cultural nationalism, two, white ethno-nationalism, three, white supremacism. Let's focus in on number one. What is cultural nationalism? As defined by the British government, it is as follows.

quote, Western culture is under threat from mass migration and a lack of integration by certain ethnic and cultural groups. That's the words. Those are the beliefs,

according to the UK government, of a cultural nationalist, therefore an extreme right-wing ideology classified under terrorism. To be clear, if you believe in Western culture and you believe that it is under threat from mass migration,

and you believe there's a lack integration by certain ethnic and cultural groups into Western civilization, be that the United States of America or UK, you are a terrorist. We have lost Europe. We have lost the home of Western civilization. The Alamo and the last man standing. The last hope for the West is the United States of America. And in the United States of America, that path and that fight is far from certain.

right now in the city of New York the leading candidate for mayor is Zoram Mamdani a man who just recently was on NBC's Meet the Press talking about his plan, his thoughts, his ideas for taxation. And realize there's a policy proposal

that says your plan and I'm going to quote it for folks is to shift the tax burden from overtaxed homeowners in the outer boroughs to more expensive homes. in richer and whiter neighborhoods. Explain why you are bringing race into your tax proposal. That is just an description of what we see right now. It's not driven by race.

It's more of an assessment of what neighborhoods are being under taxed versus overtax. So no plans to change that language on your website. The focus here is to actually ensure a fair property tax system. And the use of that language is an assessment of the neighbor. An assessment of the need to tax white tax. people. This is it. This is the great debate of our time. Under the presidency of Donald Trump, great things have happened on the world stage, and great things have happened here at home in America. For the first time in generations, he has negotiated a ceasefire and a potential

permanent peace between Palestinians and Israel, between Gaza and Israel. He's working on peace as we speak with Vladimir Putin and Volodomar Zelensky between Ukraine and Russia. Those would be the 8th and 9th peace deals arrived at under his presidency. But there's also positive things happening here at home. Foreign-born population in the United States has declined by something between 1 and 2 million people in just the first seven months of the presidency of Donald Trump. And as we'll talk about a little bit later here with the founder of XXY, Jennifer Say, the number of young people turning to non-binary or trans identification as an outlet for their mental health issues is declining.

declining rapidly, proving it was a trend, proving that we survived, perhaps, a social contagion. But the fact that things are going well does not mean that the underlying tenets of this civilization are not under threat. The underlying tenets of the United States of America are the bedrock of Western civilization, the ideas of individual liberty, the idea that you cannot be detained, as established in the Magna Carta, by an authoritarian government without due process, the idea, that one has the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, the idea of freedom as a natural right, a divine right, one granted to man by their creator, not by a king. It's really hard to understand the nature of the revolutionary ideas I just rattled off and we take as granted. We take for granted. We take as water. One of my favorite speeches, and you should go check it out on YouTube. is a commencement address given by the writer David Foster Wallace.

David Foster Wallace talks about two fish swimming in the sea, bump into an older fish. And the older fish says to the two young fish, hey, boys, how's the water? The two young fish swim on after encountering the older fish and say, what's water? Foster Wallace goes on to talk about water is the life that you live, the way you see the world, your perception, your reality. Do you see only negativity? Do you see the long lines at the grocery store? you see the traffic? Are you the central character in a movie where everything's out to get you?

That's your water. But the water for us as a people is that we live. We were born into Western civilization. We were born into it in a way that we can't even fully appreciate what it's like to live without the tenants, the foundation, the bedrock, of Western civilization. It's our water. We don't even know what the temperature is. We don't even know what it is. We don't know the existence of water.

It just surrounds us. It just is. And we walk to the world thinking that all of this is entitled or it's just the way that it works. But it isn't the way it works. No, it's not the way it works in Uganda. It's not the way it works in Pakistan. It's not the way it works in Malaysia. But it is going to be the way it works and it's going to be something that you notice

when the water becomes undeniable. The temperature is boiling. when you migrate and bring in people from all across the world who don't just believe like you and your brunch crew that, oh, everybody wants freedom. And it's not just a Brooklyn brunch crew, and it's not just the left. It's the soft, compassionate conservatism of George W. Bush that believed that all we had to do was put McDonald's on every street in Baghdad, and they would love our freedom. That's all they really want. They want our freedom, but it's not what they want. They want their values, their culture, the way they were raised. And you can even begrudge them of that.

Of course they would. It's their water. but they bring their water into your ocean and that's what's happening you've got Muslim mayors of Birmingham, Manchester, London your values are changing underneath you it's not because you are open-hearted or tolerance and all of a sudden anybody can be we don't want to be racist everybody can be who they will be

as long as they accept the same things that we are taking for granted but they don't accept the things that you're taking for granted they're changing the things that you take for granted And under the banner of tolerance, you allow your temperature to be altered. You get to see a different water. And this is the fight of our times. This is it. You lose this fight.

There is no other fight. Oh, who cares about a government shutdown? Honestly, who cares about free speech? Who cares about women's rights? None of that matters. You're talking about something much different. You didn't have conversations over women's rights under the Taliban? It's not.

That's taken for granted. That's their water. There is no women's rights. And here we are, bringing that, not by a trickle, but by a tidal wave into the West. Germany is lost. France is gone. Give it one at most two generations. And I give you this.

Cultural nationalism is extreme right-wing terrorism in the UK. And how is it going here inside the Alamo? Well, we're talking about a man leading the race for mayor of New York City who's ready to go tax white people. Charlie Kirk was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom because he understood the existential threat facing Western civilization. It's a threat from the outside. It's a threat from mass migration. It's a threat from those who don't share our values. But it's also a threat internally when that, what I described as tolerance a moment ago, is

perverted into extreme wokeism, cultural relativism, multiculturalism. When you start saying inside the Alamo, maybe, you know, maybe we should just invite in Santa Ana's soldiers. Maybe it's going to be okay, just a few. Then they'll see we're not so bad. Then maybe there won't be a battle. Go out there, boys. See if Santa Ana wants to send in a dozen. Charlie Kirk understood this fight and understood the problem with wokeism and what it represented to Western civilization. The spiritual battle is coming to the West, and the enemies are, wokeism or Marxism, combining with Islamism, to go after what we call the American way of life. And the American way of life is very simple.

I want to be able to get married. Buy a home. Have kids. Allow them to ride their bike until the sun goes down. send them to a good school, have a low-crime neighborhood, not to have my kid be taught the lesbian, gay, transgender garbage in their school. Go west, young man, but which way goes the west? Zoramam Dhani, are the recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom, Charlie Kirk. Young people are increasingly turning away from the idea that they can solve,

their mental health issues by simply declaring themselves non-binary or trans. I've got some fascinating charts, some fascinating studies, and we're going to talk about that with the founder of XXXY, Jennifer Say, when we come back on Will Kane Country. Stop leaving savings behind at the pump. Get up to 7 cents per liter in value every time you fill up at Petro Canada. That's 3 cents per liter in instant savings plus 20% more points when you link an eligible RBC card to your Petro points. Find out more at RBC.com slash Petro-Dash Canada. Conditions apply.

A would-be governor of California says that either some sports where women are better than men. What? Asked Piers Morgan. And she says she's ready to put trans women right there in the Olympics beside women. It is Wilcane Country. Streaming live at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, but always available by following on Spotify or on Apple.

If you're watching on Facebook or on YouTube, jump into the comment section and become a member of the Wallitia. Like Master Chief, up in our comment section right now, it says maybe the Secretary of War has summoned Will for a communications job. He will take all of you with him, Patrick and Two-A-D-A-Days. That would be really fascinating if I were the Press Secretary for the Secretary of War, and I came out there to get the press ready for the newest and... announcements from the Pentagon, but on that day, I might have had a conflict. So we are sending

out to talk to the press, tinfoil pat. That would really go over well with the media in the United States of America. Let's get to the founder and CEO of XXXY Athletic. She's also the author of Levi's Unbuttoned and Chalked Up. It's Jennifer Say, who we haven't seen in quite some time, but we're glad to have her back here on Will Kane Country. Hi, Jennifer. How are you? I'm really good. I was just talking about, you know, some of the existential threats and some of the deeper problems that we've got to face, not just in America, but in broader Western civilization. But there are also green shoots of hope.

And I think the first seven, eight months of the presidency of Donald Trump has shown us a lot of hope for not just governance, but our culture. And that's what I see in this right here, Jennifer. This is a collection of surveys of polling done by Andover, the fire organization, and Brown. and it shows the share of students not identifying as male or female. So, in other words, choosing some other identity than male or female. The timeline of this graph is 2016 to 2025. In 2020, the number of people, according to Andover, that identified as something other than male or female,

spiked from about 1% to almost 10% of young people in that decade. in the past two years from 2023, it's spike, it's high, to 2025, it has plummeted down from 10% back to about 2%. Two other polls, Fire and Brown, revealed the same trend, Jennifer. What do you think? What do you think this means that all of a sudden fewer people are electing some identity other than male or female? Yeah, I think what it generally reflects is the decline of people identifying as non-binary, as it is known in the, sort of public sphere and non-binary is the stupidest part of this whole gender ideology because there's no such thing when you think about a person declaring themselves the opposite sex or trans which

you can't become the opposite sex but they're adhering to a binary they're in some weird way they're actually adhering to reality but this idea that there is such a thing as neither male nor female is such a it's such an insane fiction so i find this really encouraging fewer and fewer young people are identifying as something that does not exist. This whole trend seems to be on the wane, which is great. The illusion has finally been shattered. Hopefully it continues to go down. Yeah, I think it's good news.

I think what's sad, though, Will, is there are many, many young people who have destroyed their bodies in declaring themselves non-binary and in declaring themselves the opposite sex. So, you know, the repercussions of this will feel it for. quite some time. This repercussions of a decade-long spike in people who sought, I think, and this is the way I explain it, relief from whatever they were experiencing in terms of their mental health by changing their identity and maybe even changing their bodies will result in some repercussions. I think that you're right.

And I do wonder if there's not going to be massive lawsuits. There already are. Actually, I know the answer to that question. There are massive lawsuits. What will happen to the doctors that gave in to this? social contagion that indulged this fad and destroyed, mutilated the bodies of young people? Yeah, I think there will be. I mean, I've long said that a massive wave of detransitioners is going to be what ends this.

You know, so many young people were sucked into this social contagion, and so many are going to realize that they cannot become the opposite sex and that in the process of pursuing that led by medical professionals, they ruin. their body. They ruin their fertility. It's incredibly sad. I do want to just caution us, though. I am optimistic, Will, but we have a long way to go. In 25, essentially in half the states and all the blue states, we still have boys competing in girls sports. There are lawsuits in Oregon and California. In the state where I live, Will, Colorado, it is a crime to misgender. So let's not declare victory yet. I think we have a long road ahead.

Yeah, that's all. No, I agree. It's not declaring victory. It's not declaring victory, but I do think that what it does, you need to see this stuff, I believe. Not so that it settles into complacency, but it shows you that, I think that we know this at this point, but it shows you that you're not insane. It shows you that you're not alone. It shows you that you are actually the silent majority and that the radical minority for too long has spoken with the authority of the majority. But it doesn't mean that the fight is over and it doesn't mean we should get complacent.

Especially when you hear someone like Betty Yee, who's running for governor of California, and she was on Pierce Morgan. This was a three-minute exchange. Jennifer, that's pretty fascinating. I don't know how long of a cut two a days created, but all three minutes were, honestly, insane, but we might be able to get the gist in what we have here. Here's Better Yee on Peers Morgan uncensored. They are now part of, I mean, they have been through a transition, a physical transition, and I do believe that they should be able to participate with other female. athletes. Wow. Well, you've got the Olympics coming to California, to LA. So are you suggesting that you would allow trans athletes to compete in women's sport in the Olympics if you were governor? Well, I think there's still a lot of discussion that needs to happen. I think there's a lot of

information we need to learn about what's really happening with the ability of trans athletes to compete. But my statement is about being able to be sure that they can compete. And right now there's no other questions whether you think they should compete in women's sport in the Olympics because it's coming to LA so it's relevant I think transgender female athletes are women athletes and they should be able to compete really incredible Jennifer it goes on and on at some point he gets her to admit that she would essentially be for a gender neutral category so basically that does away with women's sports right if it's a general neutral category it just means men will dominate not just the metal stamp

but the playing field of any given sport. So she kind of goes there, but to be honest, she's bouncing around a series of talking points of inclusion. And I don't know if you saw this video. I think that you did, Jennifer, but there was also a transgender athlete, older lady, older guy dressed up as a lady, saying we don't want to compete against cisgender men. We'd rather quit our sport than compete against cisgender men. So in essence, we just want to go beat the hell out of women.

Yeah, think how we feel. We don't want to compete against you. Women don't want to compete against men pretending to be women. I mean, the lack of self-awareness, Will, is so astonishing. And what Joanna Harper, who is not just a male athlete competing in the women's category, but a leading researcher on trans-identified bodies and has advocated strongly for males being allowed to compete in women's sports. She's driven the policy that has taken a hold over the last decade or so. He has driven the policy. I apologize. It's insane. I don't support a third category. People ask me this all the time. A third category furthers the fiction that there are more than two sexes. There are not. We need a hard line on this. There is men's and there is

women's. And if you are a man that likes to pretend you're a woman, you get to compete in men's because you're a man. We do not need to further the fiction. You can live your life and dress however you want, but we don't need to participate in it. And if you're not good enough as a man to qualify and make the team or to make the podium, then so be it. You don't get to enter my sports and my spaces and steal my privacy, safety, and fairness. Sorry. And one more thing, sports are not about inclusion. Competitive sport, I'm tired of this talking point about inclusion. Sports are about exclusion. Not everyone makes the team and not everybody makes the podium. The governing bodies need to do their darned us to make sure there's an even playing field. That means no

performance enhancing drugs. And that means no men in women's sports. But not everybody makes the team. And it certainly isn't inclusive for the women who get kicked off of the podium by men. That is not inclusive. But this idea that sports are supposed to be inclusive is a fiction. It's stupid. Let's take a quick break. But continue this conversation with the founder of XXXY, Jennifer Say, on Will Kane Country. Check out the big stars, big series, and blockbuster movies. Streaming on Paramount Plus. Cue the music.

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That's great. I love the boldness. I love what you have to say, and you're absolutely right. I love the clarity. You know, do you take any hope? I don't know. On this note, we're talking about trans. You know, at the center of all of this controversy, she might be the number one most hated person when it comes to the subject to trans is Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling. And she's been the subject of all kinds of, you know, I don't know, protest and and blacklist. and in stars speaking out against her. I don't, did you take, do you take any hope from this, Jennifer? This is Kira Knightley. Kira Knightley is a big time star.

And I guess she is voicing a Harry Potter character in an audiobook. And you can hear this interviewer kind of try to get Kira Knightley. Watch. I saw your voicing Professor Umbridge in the new Harry Potter, Harry Potter audio books. I was wondering, are you aware that some fans are calling for a boycott giving J.K. Rowling's ongoing campaign against trans people? I was not aware of that, no. I'm very sorry.

You know, I think we're all living in a period of time right now. We're all going to have to figure out how to live together, aren't we? And we've all got very different opinions, so I hope that we can all find respect. I love this. You love it. You love it. You know, let's translate, not just from the British accent, Let's translate.

Well, you can't see her face. No, I was not aware. Yeah, you didn't say, I don't think you showed the video. Yeah, when you see her face in the video, she's clearly aware and she clearly doesn't care. That's what's so great about it. You have to see the facial expression more than the words because obviously she's aware. Everybody who can breathe is aware that J.K. Rowling has been defending women's sex-based rights since that first tweet, I don't know, five or six years. ago. So it's just her face says it all. And I do think it's an important moment. Just like

what's her face, Emma Watson, one of the stars of Harry Potter that J.K. Rowling gave her, her career, made her wealthy beyond her wildest imagination, is also now trying to backpedal and get back into not just Rowling's good graces, but the cultures, because the line is moving in the opposite direction. And everybody is trying to kind of slowly moon walk away, but we remember, I take great hope and encouragement and all of this will, but I guess I also, I think it's important we celebrate the wins. The number of people that write me every day, DMs, emails, and say, I love your brand, but I'm too afraid to wear it. I live in a really deep blue city. I live in a deep blue state. I live in a deep blue neighborhood. To me, that just

says we have a lot of work to do, because even though 80% probably hire, agree with us because they're saying, most are still, it's been an effective campaign to demonize anyone who says men can't be women. And so most people still live in fear and are still too afraid. It's not about wearing my t-shirt, but it's about standing up and saying, not my daughter's sports, not my daughter's spaces. And most people are still afraid and believe they will get a good dragging and be ostracized from their friends and family and sort of ousted from polite society. So we just still have a lot of work to do until every single person can stand up and say men can't be women and not fear repercussion from saying this very basic common sense thing then we haven't won until then that's

to me the marker and that's what you're celebrating by the way you've got the xxx why it is your brand it is a brand of clothing but you also got now the courage awards right which you just announced on october 10th and i know that you look out there across the landscape and you look for athletes who've been brave, who've showed courage to stand up. Because, by the way, you talk about how hard it is, suddenly saying they can't wear your brand. We know, for whatever reason, it's really hard for female athletes to do, for example, what was done by Riley Gaines.

It's really tough. And you know what? There's an army of young women across the country who are standing up and pushing back. This time, we introduced the Courage Woods Award to reward brave female athletes who stand up or stand down and refuse to compete, but use their voice to protect their own sports and spaces. On the one-year anniversary of initiating those awards, we've awarded the most we've ever given, nine awards.

And it is monetary compensation. We give a financial reward as a means of encouraging other young women to stand up and speak out. And we've highlighted athletes from Oregon and California, five in Oregon, three in California, the wokenest states there are. In Oregon, they're battling Nike. This is the biggest behemoth of all, bigger than the NBA and the NFL combined,

and they're all in on men and women's sports. And in California, they're battling Gavin Newsom, who is suing the federal government to continue to allow boys to compete in girls' sports. And yet these teenagers are standing up and pushing back. It's pretty remarkable, Will, and you know what it reminds me of, you know, the victims of Larry Nassar, the pedophile doctor for Team USA Gymnastics, you know who put him in prison for life? Well, unknown high school gymnasts from across the country, not the Olympians.

The Olympians and the famous athletes, they kind of. kind of came out much later. But the army of survivors, as we call them, were the unknown athletes. That's what we're seeing now across the country with these high school girls, sometimes even middle school girls, who are refusing to compete against boys in their girls category, track and field, shot put, whatever the sport may be, volleyball. And it's just, I want to celebrate them, especially at a time when free speech continues to be under attack. And I think some people are emboldened right now because they're like my free speech is really at risk and others are afraid because of the violence that we've seen but these girls are fearless they do it

anyway they face ostracizing in their own community and their own school and they do it anyway and so we just wanted to reward them um it's a list of nine names i won't read them to you but they're awesome every single one of them well you can check that out at xxxx y that's really cool way from what those girls have done because I just I just echoed what you had to say about how hard it is because of societal pressures but it's just so odd sometimes that it is hard because it's so obvious as well right it's just we've gotten to a place where it's hard to do and say what is obvious because here's what's obvious to me if you can't do what these girls have done if you can't state a biological truth if you can't recognize the difference between a male

and a female, that I don't really have a lot of interest in other things that you have to say. Like, and I'm not, I'm not trying to be, you know, cute or dismissive, but it's simply true. You know, Scott Jennings, who's doing an awesome job on CNN nightly of pushing back on lunacy. He has a podcast as well, and he said this well, like, how am I supposed to listen to you, for example, on a government shutdown if you can't tell me the difference between a man and a woman? Watch. If I can't trust you not to put a boy in a teenage girl's locker room, how will I ever listen to your plan for taxes and the economy. I will not, because I've already concluded you're a lunatic.

Can't say it any better than that. It's so perfectly said, Jennifer. Yeah, I can't really add to it. It's so perfect. If you don't know the most basic thing, even babies know this, it's the most basic thing we've known since the beginning of time, then you don't know anything. And if you don't know it, you're stupid.

If you do know it, but you're cowed by activists, loud bullying activists, then you're a coward, and you don't deserve to lead anything. You have no moral courage. So, you know, either way, you're wrong and you're bad, and you don't deserve to lead anything. Jennifer Say is the CEO of XX, X, X, Y, Athletics. She's given everybody here on the show some of her products.

We wear it proudly. We thank you, Jennifer. And check out the Courage Awards as well, by the way, at her website. And if you support basic biological reality and the protection of women's sports, you need to check out XXXY Athletics. Always good to see you, Jennifer. Thank you.

Nice to see you well. Thanks for having me. All right. Kamala Harris, seemingly borrowing a line from Hillary Clinton, says, no, it's actually she, who is the most qualified person ever to run for president. Let's enjoy that with the politics editor of the Daily Signal, Bradley Devlin, next on Wilcane Country. Will has an important something coming up soon because he's looking real polished up today, says Mark in the Willisha. It is Will Cain Country. Streaming live at the Will Cain Country YouTube channel. You can always follow us at Spotify or on Apple.

But if you are on Facebook or on YouTube, then you too can jump into the comments like Mark. And it's true, Mark. I have a little event today that I had to go to right after the show. So no time to dress casual and then change into a suit. It's a suit all day here on Wheel Cane Country and the Whilcane Country. Will Ken show. Suzanne says, my dog knows the difference between male and female. There is no excuse. Now, it is true. You ever seen a gender confused dog? If you can find the video, I'm sure there is one on Instagram, just understand that it is Instagram. It isn't evidence.

It's Instagram. Even animals, even children, without the brainwashing influence of their parents, understand the basic biological differences between a man and a woman. The Texas National Guard has been sent to Illinois, but not everybody got to stay. Seven Texas National Guard members had to be sent home. Let's bring in two a day's Dan and tinfoil Pat, who I know, by the way, have to do some work behind the scenes as well, working technologically to bring up Bradley Devlin. Who we have, actually. The Daily Signal.

You have Bradley. Yeah, Bradley is ready to go. That means tin foil Pat's not with us. But I did notice that tin foil Pat is very active in the Willisha. He's out there in the comment section, mixing it up with the Willisha. He's with the people. I like that about Pat. He's like a reclusive, introverted man of the people, is tinfoil Pat.

Yes. Spot on. If you can be all those things. My son was writing his college essays last night, and we were talking about the concept of the servant leader. Very flatteringly, a parent had called my son a servant leader. I said, it's an interesting concept, didn't it? Because the two words seemingly don't fit together, servant and leader. How can you be a servant and a leader? But we all know there is such thing. And it's like that with tinfoil Pat. How can you be a recluse introvert, but also a man of the people?

Life is full of these oxymorons. Seven members of the Texas National Guard were sent home. because they were too fat, too fat to fit mission requirements. Let's talk about that with the politics editor of the Daily Signal, Bradley DeVlin, who joins us now. What's up, Bradley? How's it going? Good to see you. Good to see you as well. So the Secretary of War, the Governor of Texas, they've deployed, each in different aspects, the Governor of Texas, along with the President of the United States, deployed the Texas National Guard to Illinois. for a deployment to fight crime in the city of Chicago.

Secretary of War has new standards on everybody fighting in the U.S. military, which basically means you've got to be able to do some pull-ups, push-ups, and you can't be fat. Seven dudes got sent home because they failed the test, Bradley. And if you're watching on Facebook or YouTube, you can see some pictures. I'm not sure. I don't want to be careful. I'm not sure these are the exact seven guys that got sent home.

But you got to go home. You got to get in shape. Seems fair. I think it seems fair. It's like sports. It's not supposed to be inclusive. You're supposed to be badass. Right, and as a self-identified fat person, that's why I work in journalism.

I sit on my butt and observe things and write things all day long. That's what I do. I'm not a Texas National Guard. I mean, it's amazing to see some of the heft on these guys, and it's different when you're like dealing with offensive linemen types, right? Where, sure, I do want some members of the offensive line in the trenches. But those guys are thrown around 300 pounds easily. These guys, they don't look like they're cutting it.

And I think President Trump kind of gave a shout out to the fat shot a few weeks ago. A few weeks ago, he gave a shout out to the fat shot. He said it doesn't work on one of his morbidly obese friends, who's a very successful person. But maybe it would work for these gentlemen. I don't know, as we said, we don't know if those are the gentlemen. But maybe, maybe Ozempic is the way to get us back to American military greatness. I think it works. I think it works, Bradley.

I think the fat shot does work. But it's not obviously the only thing that works. Diet and exercise, my tie offer? By the way, self-identified fat person, I took a look at this picture. I'm trying to decide if any of these guys look like offensive guards, and you might be right. They might not be offensive guards. Do you look like, I wouldn't say, I don't know about your self-identification,

and I'm only seeing a shot from about the chest up, but I don't see fat person. That's on purpose. That's on purpose. I played fullback in a linebacker in high school. That's where I played. You know, but you know, you want offensive tackle physique. You want offensive tackle physique for guys making sure that the streets stay safe in Washington, D.C.

You're not going to go mess around with Joe Alt if he's out there. Great Chargers player, Notre Dame, go Irish. You know, you're not going to be committing petty crimes at Union Station if you see Joe Alt ready to take it to town. I think you – here's the deal. I'm with you. I think there's a role for the beefy guy. There's a role for the offensive linemen in the military. They don't all need to be, you know,

wide receiver build. But there's a difference between even an offensive guard. Even an offensive guard who might be, I'll do respect offensive guards. I have some friends that were guards, some family members that are guards. But they might be the sloppiest. It's between them a defensive tackle.

Who's the sloppiest on the field? But even the offensive guard and the defensive tackle we're not talking um we're not talking about the guys that got sent home here from chicago and i think it's a totally fair standard get in shape all right bradley um bill mar um has he just won't go all the way that's the wild thing at some point you got to go all the way bill because you you know at some point if you recognize that two and two is four you got to recognize it if you add one more two it's a six so he's willing to get to four when comes to Donald Trump. Watch. I always say this. You cannot ever deny success. You just have to give

your respect, even if it's not your thing. Have the humility to give it up for enormous success on any level. I agree. Trump, not my choice, didn't vote for him, but somehow... But a lot of people did. And he's... I can't deny the success. I can't either. Yeah. And he's... And he's the president. And he's the And he's the president. There's William H. Macy, the actor along with Bill Maher. He's giving him credit for his success, you know? I wonder if Bill Maher, by the end of his three years, is he going to go back to, which he hasn't totally divorced himself from, you know, hyperventilating about authoritarianism

and go full on, this has been a success with Donald Trump? Or will he go back to that? Or will he admit this is a full on a success with Donald Trump? Yeah, remember, there's this graph that we go through every four years with the liberal media. And the first year of a Republican administration, it seems like their self-awareness climbs. And then it falls off and hits record lows when we hit another election year. I think we might see a little blip on that graph next year with the 2026 midterms if it looks like it's going to be close between Democrats and Republicans.

I mean, this is what they do, right? CNN after the 2016 election promise that they were going to do some deep soul-searching and introspection about their biases and about how they were going to be covering stories from the American heartland that were impacted by the Obama-era policies and led to the rise of Donald Trump. That lasted all about 13 seconds, and then it was a long fall deep into the abyss. The other thing that's interesting about this is there's a cottage industry cropping up of liberal pundits and podcasters, who have this, they used to call it, you know, when figures on the right were respected by the left, they were called, it was called Strange New Respect.

There's this cottage industry of liberal pundits that have this quote-unquote strange new respect for Donald Trump. One of those figures is Stephen A. Smith. Remember, he went on Bill Maher's show, I believe, and said, what are you guys talking about? Trump promised all of these things. It's promises made, promises kept for the president. He's doing exactly what he said he was going to do.

And feigning outrage and feigning shock doesn't change anything. Maybe you guys were thought that you guys got away with it in the first few years of the Trump administration. But after four years of the interregnum of Joe Biden and how disastrous it was, Trump had a mandate to deliver on all those promises and increase the severity or the intensity of the promises that he made during the 2016 campaign. And I wonder if that cottage industry is actually in it for the long haul or if it will also collapse because the left will turn on them and eat them alive. Well, the test will be, as you said next year, and that is interesting. Once we are in the heat of the midterms and rhetoric becomes exclusively not just about ginning up hyperbolic protest in the streets of Portland, but about winning an election, will the likes of Bill Maher or Steve. A. Smith, go down the path of defeatism for Donald Trump. So everything becomes how terribly is in pursuit of a Democratic majority in Congress. How do you feel right now about the midterms

Bradley? Do you feel like, I mean, that's sort of a wildcard. Everybody's talking about, is this, historically, the party out of power does better in the midterm election. So that would mean Democrats, most notably in Congress in the House of Representatives. But everything is going really well. The big wildcard is the economy. So how are you feeling about the midterms in 2026? I'm cautiously optimistic about the midterms for the conservative movement. And the reason that it's cautiously optimistic is because you're exactly right.

Midterms are often a bloodbath for the party in power. So much of this will is writing on what the Supreme Court heard today. With this Louisiana case that's going to determine how, states can go about redistricting. If they rule in the conservative movement's favor and like 19 of these Democratic seats are all of a sudden invalid and all these states have to kind of redraw their maps to give conservatives more of a fair shake, that's going to make a massive difference. And I love that the president said, why are we playing by this completely outdated rulebook? When we did the census in 2020, not only has the census admitted it was completely

ridiculous and including illegal immigrants and non-citizens, distorting representation, etc., etc. But since then, we've had historic, monumental shifts with our voting demographics that should prompt states to reconsider how their people are represented in Washington, D.C. A great example of this, of course, is the story of the Texas Maga Latino. It's completely changed the dynamics of of Texas state politics and of Texas's representation at a national level. And now we're talking about Gavin Newsom with Prop 50 in California, which would, if Prop 50 passes, it would let Gavin Newsom and his cronies redraw the lines of the state. That is such an egregious case because Texas shifted more towards the right.

So did California. But Gavin Newsom is saying, sorry, voters of California, I don't care about you. I'm going to redraw the map in my favor, even though. President Donald Trump gained 10 points in the 2024 election, which should signal a more, at least a little bit more of a balance in California between Republican representatives in Washington and Democrat representatives in Washington. But right now, Republicans on the national level in California are almost extinct in the golden state.

That should change. That Supreme Court case, as you referenced, could swing 19 seats, 19 seats towards Republicans. We have this, Bradley, Bradley Devon, of the, as Daily Signal is with us here. And Kamala Harris says she is the most qualified person to run for president. Watch, Bradley. Well, some people have actually said I was the most qualified candidate ever to run for president. I like the some people say. Very nice.

But go ahead. Oh, I love that it was called out. that. And by the way, in all fairness, President Trump does invoke the abstract endorsement. People are saying, a lot of people are saying, Kamala Harris invokes, people are saying, the better follow-up would have been there. I think that's Kara Swisher interviewing her. Who? Who says you were the most qualified person to ever run for president? Yeah, the answer is her. I do. I say I'm the most qualified person ever to run for president. And remember, every new, every old Republican president, like George W. Bush, right, he's now a respectable figure.

He's not Hitler anymore, but while he was in politics, he was Hitler. This is what the Democrats kind of do this thing in reverse, where the newest Democratic candidate for president is the most qualified candidate to have ever existed. Actually, they're so qualified they should just be king of the universe. They're entering a general election with God himself. That's how qualified these people are. And this dynamic is just going to keep repeating itself over and over and over again. They're going to say the same thing about Gavin Newsom when he steps up there in the general election in 2028,

even though he's never had a federal position, right? He's not been vice president. Kamala Harris, ironically, even with her failed record as vice president, is on paper going to be more qualified than Gavin Newsom. to hold uh the highest office in the land which is which is hilarious to me it's like it's you know how fast can democratic candidates fail upward uh that's going to be the real test in twenty twenty eight and and you know some people are not saying this we hear this narrative every single uh time there's a presidential election hillary clinton was the most qualified

then barraq obama was the most qualified when barraq obama was like an adjunct professor at harvard law like and spent two seconds as a senator give me a break He also hosts, by the way, The Signal Sit Down. You should check that out at The Daily Signal. He is the politics editor at the Daily Signal. It's Bradley, Devin. We appreciate having you on the show. Good to see you, Bradley.

Good to see you, too. Well, thanks. All right, check them out at The Daily Signal. Okay, the comment section has been up and running throughout the show. We love that. We bring you up as we spend an hour together every day, Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern Time. Before we go, Two A Days wants me to make sure that I read this comment from the Willisha.

It is from one Patrick Hatton who posts, Does Two of Days even know who Joe Alt is? Well, it's a good question. Sol the job. Willisha, a.k.a. Tinfoil Pat. Have you had time? Did you Google? No, I knew. Who is Joe Alt? I mean, he broke the wreck for most of yards as a running back, right, at Notre Dame?

Was that it? Wrong? No, he's a great play for him. Your jokes, but did you know? Your joke's masked. Yes, he's a lineman. If Bradley hadn't said chargers, top 10 draft pick. I saw him on, I saw him on some, like, ESPN, like, profile at some point, so that's why I know who he is.

Did you? Yeah. All right. Resident Notre Dame expert, two a days. That's going to do it for us today here on. Wilcane Country. Check us out every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern time. Wilcane Country, YouTube, Spotify, Apple. We'll see you again next time. Listen to ad-free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcast,

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