Will Cain Country - The Cornell 7, Political Theater, and Getting Fired for Cornrows (ft. Tim Young)
Episode Date: October 2, 2026What happens when the court of public opinion convicts before the facts are even out? Will sits down with Comedian and Media Editor at The Dallas Express Tim Young to break down the latest development...s in the Cornell fraternity allegations, the rush to judgment on social media, and Governor Kathy Hochul appointing Attorney General Letitia James as a special prosecutor.Plus, the guys debate the ethics of the death penalty following a botched execution attempt in Tennessee, react to the Baltimore Rock Opera Society firing a leader for wearing cornrows at Burning Man, and examine a Portland Trail Blazers announcer canceled for tweets made as a teenager. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country!Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@WillCainNews)Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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That's what we're going to start with the Willisha.
On Facebook.
Deanna Woodshort.
You are so wrong, Will.
We don't know the whole story.
Our story, one story, is that she agreed to a threesome.
I don't know, but she was impaired.
This kind of thing happens to impaired college girls and doesn't make rape okay.
What the hell is wrong with you?
Those Aho boys were inviting people on Snapchat to come up and rape her.
Do you think that's okay?
Do you have a daughter, a sister, female cousins?
Under what circumstances do you think a rape occurs?
It was seven hours, seven young men.
You are a disgrace to say this is okay.
Deanna Wood Short.
Rape is not okay, and no one believes that rape is okay.
This is a straw man.
It is tilting at windmills.
It is creating an evil villain who,
you can easily defeat. But it is an evil villain who does not exist. There are not men, at least
not in any significant number, who believe that rape is okay. I don't believe rape is okay. I have a
sister. I don't believe rape is okay. I have female cousins. I don't believe rape is okay,
even if I had a daughter. The question, Deanna, and it's a simple question, and it is the only
question, but the question is, was there a rape?
To go back to the statement from Deanna Wood short, halfway into the paragraph that she writes me, she says,
this kind of thing happens to impaired college girls and that doesn't make rape okay.
Buried in that sentence and the following sentence that says those a-hole boys were inviting people on Snapchat to come up and rape her,
buried inside those statements, is the presumption of a fact that she was raped.
Now, any, I think, good citizen, good moral human being has a duty to look into the facts and the evidence to pursue the truth.
So before you tie seven or 57, boys up to a crucifix, before you drag their lives through the town square hitched to the back of a pickup truck,
before you create an online mob to destroy lives, like you did with Duke, like you did with Virginia,
You might, like I believe a moral truth-seeking person would do, take a look at the evidence and the facts.
And Tim Young today, as I look at the evidence and the facts, they only move further into the direction that this was not a rape.
There is very, very, very, at this point, little evidence to support the idea that Jane Doe in Cornell was raped.
while the evidence is mounting that she was part of a consensual orgy that she later regretted,
took some time to realize the impact of both her and those boys' unethical decisions
and didn't like the fallout for her reputation.
And rape became the life buoy.
Rape became the rescue.
Rape became the rehabilitation of her reputation.
All right.
You're going to get a side of me today because you know,
I usually put up the comedian side.
You didn't even know that I went to law school, and I was trained as a public defender.
I couldn't see any of these boys going to jail for anything.
Although now Letitia James has been appointed as the special prosecutor here.
We know that she won't do anything political, right?
So this should be troubling to everybody that she's there.
This seems like it's turning into political theater.
The court of a public opinion has already convicted these boys who, I'm very offended by the fact that everybody knows everything about them right now.
that these guys before it's the presumption of guilt before innocence here and their lives are ruined
as of right now every one of those those guys involved their lives are ruined if you take a look at the
facts of the case like you said it the more i dig into it the more it leans i could never convict them
i'm not i don't know exactly what happened nobody knows exactly what happened that night we have
her testimony immediately you have to remember that you're you're already you had a prosecutor's office
and you had a police department investigate this and they said there's nothing they
there. And here we are years later, and we're basing things off of her lawsuit, not a trained
legal, entire legal department, and the state took a look at this and said there's nothing there.
So really, there are levels of this that are completely troubling, in fact, including the court of
public opinion. Because if say this does go to trial and you have a jury, can you get a non-tampered
with jury at this point? Can you get a non-biased jury at this point? This story has become a national
story and it's been, they've ruined the entire jury poll. Everyone knows about this story by now.
The Court of Public Opinion was formed based upon a plaintiff's one-sided complaint.
The complaint is always one-sided, in this case, a civil suit for rape. It was her telling two
years later to her plaintiff's attorney that is formed into a civil complaint. And from that,
a firestorm, an online mob. A mob whose mind is made up before even, the evidence outside of that
one-sided civil complaint could even be considered. But that has driven the day. And that is
driven to your point. Governor Kathy Hokel of New York, who has stepped in now and replaced the
district attorney, who looked at the facts and the evidence two years prior in 2024, took witness
statements from all seven boys from the young lady Jane Doe, who in his account edited her
statement 20 times, went over it with a fine-tooth comb and edited that statement 20 times,
reviewed text messages and came away with the conclusion, there was nothing to even charge, much less convict.
But in now steps, Governor Kathy Hockel.
When the Tompkins County District Attorney announced that he was reopening the case, he pointed to Jane Doe's statement and said it did not establish that a crime had occurred.
But new reporting raises serious questions about the information his office relied upon when it made that time.
decision. That's why I believe this case demands a special prosecutor who will provide a fresh
and thorough review of all the facts, including the information that has recently come to light.
And that is why I'm invoking the power conferred to me as the governor of the state of New York
to enlist Attorney General James as an independent special prosecutor in this case.
Attorney General Letticia James has been appointed to replace the district attorney.
Let me make two points. Tim. One, Lettia James.
is not an impartial arbiter, a ethical and truth-seeking prosecutor. She has already posted
on this case. She has gone to social media, and she has said what she believes to be the truth
before purportedly even reviewing the evidence, thus disqualifying her as an appropriate special
prosecutor. Secondarily, the governor mentions new evidence has come to light. I would like to know
what that new evidence may be. The only new evidence that I can imagine she's referencing is the
original statement that Jane Doe gave to campus police, which was incorporated into her
civil complaint. But the new evidence has come to light is a bevy, a trove of text messages
and witness testimony that contradict in behavior and words, everything from the civil complaint
and everything from the campus police report. And we can go through them because there's yet
more today that we're learning that Jane Doe said and wrote in the days and weeks after this
regrettable night at a fraternity house in Cornell.
When a prosecutor has to take a look at these cases, you have to see beyond a reasonable doubt
that something happened.
There is more than enough reasonable doubt that either she consented to it or that these
guys, you know, they were all drugged together at the same time, which, by the way, that
changes the definition of rape when you're all drugged at the exact same time when you're all
going getting getting drunk and whatever and you you it's it's you have to be knowingly
taking advantage of someone for it to be right and both parties on both sides so if you know that she's
yes yes so if you're both drunk and you both roll around then you both regret it it's not rape
if one person is drunk and then they're obviously taken advantage of then the person who took
advantage of them is the criminal.
This is, we should really be asking why the governor of New York is involved in this.
One small correction to what you just said about the state of the law, that is not the law
in New York.
One party could be intoxicated and the other not.
That doesn't make the non-intoxicated party guilty of rape.
In New York, if the intoxicated party voluntarily consumed whatever that is, drugs or
alcohol, they are not robbed of their ability to give consent. Now, that is a popular trope on social
media and in our minds. It's a cliche. An inebriated person can't give consent. But it's simply
not true in the state of New York. Now, we could all have a moral conversation about whether
the New York law is right or every other state's law is right. But in New York, if you choose
to get drunk, if you choose to get high, then you can still have the capacity to choose to have sex.
Yeah. It's just, again, I was taught that if you were incapacitated by your own account and somebody took advantage of it, then it might be different for different districts. And it may have, the law may have changed throughout the years. It's going to be state to state. And that doesn't change the moral calculation. And I have to really emphasize that over and over, not because I think I should, but because I know that it's necessary. People keep conflating the idea that I believe, or anyone would believe, any of this behavior is ethical. And I'm not just talking about the board.
I'm talking about her behavior as well.
But there's a difference between ethical or unethical behavior and criminal behavior.
And people are having a very hard time separating those two things.
And that's best evidence by the way they're now behaving towards the boys, which I think is beyond the realm of ethical.
I believe that the way I believe that everybody on TikTok who has convicted these boys in the court of public opinion should be sued to bejesis for defamation.
I believe that celebrities who have jumped on the virtue signaling band lagging to destroy these boys' lives should be sued for defamation.
I believe that Letitia James, as she pursues this in an unjust way, should be sued for malicious prosecution.
And I believe this girl, if she lied, should also face civil consequences for putting these boys' lives.
And I don't just mean their careers at this point.
Literally, these boys' lives are in danger.
And we'll be lucky if by the end of this, everyone is alive.
I never shout out media aid.
I'm going to have to give them credit here.
Brad Slager wrote an opinion article that was sent to me by Harry.
The press needs to tap the brakes before the Cornell 7 becomes the Duke Lacrosse 2.0.
A very, very good piece on this, breaking down the facts as we know them.
I thought it was very balanced.
I'm not used to that from the media.
There are some people out there with common sense saying, hey, there are.
We need to be very cautious with what's happening here.
It's not uniform in mainstream media.
You have examples like Sunny Hosten the other day on the.
view. You have some examples of people within, you know, the New York Times doing real reporting
to give us the facts. However, politicians seem so uninterested in this at this point.
The Democrat Party has gone all in. Kathy Hokel, Letitia James, Abdul El-Said running for Senate
and Michigan has put out a statement. And AOC said something blatantly defamatory.
AOC said the trope, seven hours, seven men gangwring. We need to be clear. We need to be
clear about something very quickly. The Jane Doe's civil complaint, nor Jane Doe's statement to
campus police, and obviously not Jane Doe's statement to the prosecutor and police, implicates seven
men. Not once does it implicate seven men. There are four men purportedly who had sex with Jane Doe.
There is a fifth who tried to kiss Jane Doe and was rebuffed, when rebuffed, stopped.
Yeah. Two simply entered the room. The Cornell 7 is quite bluntly pure misinformation, pure lie and is uttered from the lips from Alexander Ocasio-Cortez, pure defamation. The only thing saving AOC is that she is a member of Congress. And it's very hard to sue a member of Congress for their lies. Otherwise, we'd have jails full of politicians.
Well, hey, I mean, they can sexually assault anybody they want in Congress, our taxpayer dollars paid off, and we never find out who it was or where our money went.
So, I mean, they are super protected from any of this stuff.
This is, this should be any parents that are listening to this, warn your kids.
Like, I'm turning, this is transitioning me into a really old man here, where it's like, you know, college, you think about it as fun and party and whatever else.
Your children need to be educated.
Number one, they need to be morally trained so that they don't do things like this.
don't find themselves in these positions.
But don't behave like this.
Don't participate in things like this to begin with, and you don't have to worry about it.
I know it's a weird thing to say, but parents need to be more involved in their kids' lives
so that these mistakes don't happen.
At some point here, the entire Frat House or a group of these boys thought all of this
behavior was okay, whether or not be her assenting to it or not, and also her behavior in the
middle of all this, too.
They're doing illicit drugs.
I mean, nothing good comes from this.
Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back with comedian Tim Young.
When we come back on Will Kane Country.
Welcome back to Will Kane Country.
We're still hanging out with media editor at the Dallas Express and comedian Tim Young.
So let me just piggyback on that.
I agree.
There was nothing good about this.
It's not an excuse for anything that happened that night.
And by the way, I believe that the university's response of banning the fraternity was probably the right response.
Because criminal or not, that behavior is not something you want as part of an organization affiliated with your university.
snorting ketamine and having group sex is not something that you want.
You wouldn't want that at any fraternity.
I don't think that two boys, if this turns out to be the way all the evidence is pointing right now,
two boys who participated in consensual group sex should be expelled from the university.
I don't see that punishment is correct, and I definitely don't see what's happening to them now in the court of public opinion as just.
And again, in just a moment, Tim and I will review some of again, the newest evidence.
But I want to go back to the Willisha still on Facebook.
Chris McQuae says the nuances seem to be missed.
It seems as though her saying yes to a threesome was an invitation, not by her, to a gangbang.
You can remove consent at any time for any reason.
Sounds like a horrific event took place despite her not wanting it.
Those boys knew better.
Bonnie Blue is not.
Bonnie Blue, she is not.
Let's walk through the statements of fact in Chris McQua's paragraph that are simply not facts.
He can't know this.
starting with Bonnie Blue, she is not.
That is a conclusion that can only, you don't know, Jane Doe, you don't know, all you have is the evidence.
And there is honestly more evidence pointing to she is Bonnie Blue than she is raped.
And so he goes on to say, it seems as though her saying yes to a threesome was an invitation, not by her, to a gangbang.
this horrific event took place despite her not wanting it.
Now, here's what the latest evidence is showing us.
So while we start with a civil complaint by Jane Doe, that means her side of the story two years later, buttressed by her story told to campus police two weeks later, is now balanced against the text message.
which we revealed yesterday.
Those text messages include her in the days and weeks afterwards saying nothing that happened
is illegal.
I would like to hook up with you, speaking of two of the boys, again.
Her telling her sorority big sister, her mentor, that she did it.
And it was, it's true.
I think the big sister said there's, you know, people are calling you a slut and you did
this.
And she said, well, I did do this.
her texts saying that people are too uptight about sex and that she's open and that she thinks this is going to become more common, meaning open and liberated sexuality.
In that way, she was very much a modern day feminist.
Yes.
Living up to the request of modern day feminism, be sexually liberated, do whatever you want.
And she did.
What the text then reveal what happened is she started to get a bad reputation.
and she didn't like that.
She got it from her sorority.
She then began to hear randos on campus say things about her.
And she began to think the boys were telling stories about it.
And they probably were.
Of course they were.
And by the way, bad on them again.
Second bad on the boys, right?
Not criminal, but bad on the boys once again.
But now she doesn't like it.
She doesn't like that it's out there.
She's still not done.
She's still not done.
She still wants to hang out.
And then we get to the Halloween party.
and the Halloween party, she says something like, I want to come, and one of the boys says,
you'll always be welcome at the Kai Phi House. You're one of us. And she said, heart emoji,
I'll bring the SIGs. Then she got a phone call from the fraternity president that disinvited her
to the party, quote unquote, for her own good. Now she gets mad, and she says, you guys are A-holes,
and the woman always gets the short end of the stick. We talked about this yesterday. She's surfing a
Greek-like forum, and it was the first time people started talking about it.
Kai Fies were gang-bang.
First time she said, in her words, she saw someone, again, just like our commenters in
the Wollisha, just a random person in a comment section, who didn't describe her as a whore,
but described her as the victim of rape.
And ding, the light goes off.
Now she's got a new story.
And that story encouraged, as I think as it turns out from her roommates, which took some doing
because she had told the roommates, I did this.
You know, this was, yeah, I'm in, I was into this.
Now it's turning into I was raped.
The rebuttal to that that everyone likes to offer is it takes time for trauma to process.
And what I would say to that is that may be true as an abstraction, but it flies in the face of so much actual evidence.
Her contemplation of the opinion of her is what really seems to have shifted things.
I'm going to go broader here. I'm going to go 50,000 foot.
Talking about labeling her Bonnie Blue or not, the only fans of vacation, I guess would be the only fans of vacation of America, the feminism here has ruined our moral code.
When you see college athletes make millions of dollars by putting their butt on the internet instead of actually playing volleyball or whatever they play, you're showing women that by being more sexual and being more immoral and appealing to men.
sexually is more valuable than your education and your athleticism.
Quote unquote.
And yes.
And there's a downward spiral.
There's a slippery slope that happens when you realize that you can make millions of dollars
putting your butt on the internet as a college athlete who would not normally even be recognized
for being a college athlete.
There's something then with the Bonnie Blue and the only fans where you realize how much money
you can get from that.
And women have, and men as well, because men are the consumers of this mainly.
they have shifted and given up on the morality where before, you know, like, you might be more nervous to ask a woman out.
You might be more, you might wait a little bit before you want to have a monogamous sexual relationship with somebody.
Now it's just commonly placed.
Porn is so, is so accessible and everyone has access to it at a young age.
I mean, you take a look at the even like, not to go totally crazy here, but the books in elementary schools.
You're sexualizing children from a young age one.
You're making them, getting them accustomed to things that, you know, you and I, being old,
guys now, didn't have access to until our teens. And it was still like very taboo. Now it's just
open and common. And this behavior then is greenlit much more mentally by children than what
have ever been before. It's a bad situation. I do believe at 50,000 feet that you're right,
that I believe we have an epidemic problem with porn that distorts people's minds, not just men,
by the way, also, but primarily men, distorts their minds about what is appropriate and real and romantic and loving and, and, you know, the way it should be between a man and a woman.
I don't know if that explains any of the behavior in this story.
I don't know.
I think it's very, very rational to believe that that does play a role.
but I also know that rape has been a part of culture since the beginning of time.
I think that the sand that is shifted under our feet is the idea of consent.
That consent has become this gray area.
And it's odd because I do believe that consent can be black and white between two rational people.
I do think I think consent is black and white between two rational people.
It is.
Do you know what I mean?
The problem is the world is full of irrational people, male and female.
And now it gets messy.
Right. And there's all kinds of human emotions that make things irrational.
Regretts, discomfort, whatever it may be.
Shame.
All of these things make this now a minefield.
What should be black and white but two rational people is a minefield between a world full of irrational people.
And I think that that is part of this.
Because when you look at what happened in the room, because the evidence is that continues to come in.
Now we get testimony from the boys, right, which was taken in the days and weeks afterwards.
And their stories are very different from hers.
And by the way, somewhat different from each other, which, of course, if you've got a bunch of people
on ketamine, you're going to get a bunch and drunk, you're going to get a bunch of different
stories.
But I'll tell you this.
Here are the things that are being reported.
Absolute consent.
Every step of the way she wanted to do this.
She said she wanted to do this.
And quotes.
Like, what do you guys, like, worried about?
this, this was normal in medieval times. That's one of the things they suggested she said.
Now, is it true or is not true? I don't know, but it's of equal veracity to me as what she
says. It's two people. Why is his testimony any more false than her testimony? In what world,
unless we buy into the trope, believe all women. But women are human beings, and people are
human beings. Men are human beings. Is anyone gender exempt from confusion, shame,
And that's just the innocuous ways of not telling the truth or just flat out lies because there's more.
There's one of the boys who says, hey, it's the opposite of what you're saying.
I was sexually assaulted.
He says that she initiated oral sex with him and he didn't want it.
And I don't know.
Again, if that's true, what's true?
But all I'm telling you is you can't create a lynch mob based upon one.
person's self-contradictory testimony.
Reasonable doubt.
It's, you have to, you have to, yes, you have to convict beyond a reasonable doubt,
and there's plenty of doubt here with these stories, with what she said early on.
I feel bad for everybody involved because something happened, but here when these guys,
their lives are being ruined by them being doxed publicly, I feel more for them right now.
And this is...
Go ahead.
And wouldn't we, if you're a woman who was sexually assaulted, and that's why you have this rage in this case,
to make sure that this woman is telling the full truth and that it pushes and helps feature sexual assaults and does not hurt it, you know, like the Duke Lacrosse story, you'd want to make sure that the story is one that's going to help the cause of stopping this moving forward.
And they're just jumping on the bandwagon for it.
You don't think about things like that.
you're filing a civil suit like this. And by the way, when you file a civil suit like
this, your case, when you read out your case, you're going to make it much worse, you're
going to throw everything at the wall to see what sticks. So like, you know, when somebody
damages your property, I don't know how many people watch the people's court, but people show up
for like damage to like their front lawn and they add in like emotional damage, right? And
they want $5,000 for emotional damage because their grasp was harmed. This is, you want to
throw everything at the wall. And the problem here is, and again, credit to media.
The problem is that the media is running with every one of her statements in her civil
suit as fact to ruin these kids' lives.
It's a horrible situation, and I don't think this shakes out.
And again, why there are so much violence against women from illegal immigrants,
rapes, murders, and children?
You should ask yourself why the governor of New York and Letitia James have jumped into this.
Because that's, again, political theater, one thing.
But why do they care more about this than hundreds,
if not thousands of victims of migrant crime.
Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back with comedian Tim Young when we come back on Will Kane Country.
Welcome back to Will Kane Country.
We're still hanging out with media editor at the Dallas Express and comedian Tim Young.
You know, this will be an unpopular thing.
It was said by Camille Poglia, the feminist feminist.
I don't know if you're familiar with Camille Poglia in an interview.
She's now past, but this is some decades in the past because the stat was thrown around then and the stat was run around now.
To your point, Dan.
The stat is something like 25 to 30% of women have suffered some form of sexual assault.
And I think that's actually, I think that stat is also on college campuses.
You'd have to fact check that, but I believe they're saying 25% of women on college campuses have suffered some type of sexual assault.
Well, that is not to deny anyone's individual story or experience, but as a macro statistic, simply unbelievable.
that exceeds the sexual, the rape and sexual assault stats out of Africa where tribes use rape as a tactic of war, where it is much, much more common.
And so it leads you down the path of what are we talking about?
What they consider sexual assault.
What they consider, what is sexual assault, what is consent, and what is truly rape.
and this is the cause that you're talking about.
Like, I don't know what the end goal of this is.
If the idea is, because I come to this sad conclusion, I can do this podcast, I can read these comments, I can lay out the evidence, and nobody gives a hot damn.
Nobody cares about the truth.
They don't want it to be covered up anymore.
That's what they say.
Deanna Woodshort does not care about the evidence that rebuts her conclusions.
she does not care.
Or Justin Tracy, who says, it's really not hard.
Don't be a douchebag.
If it seems rapy, it probably is.
He's not interested in hearing the truth.
So what are they interested in?
That's more interesting.
Are you interested?
And we could kind of run through the possibilities.
Are you interested in being the performative male?
Are you interested in virtue signaling regardless of gender?
Are you interested in upending the patriarchy?
Are you interested in putting men on defense?
Followers and likes.
Are you?
Yeah.
I don't think you're interested in returning to sexual conservatism.
I don't think you're interested in abstention, abstaining from sex, which is really only the true bright line in this whole deal.
So what is it that you actually want at the end of this rainbow?
And I have one more place to go.
I think you should say, if you can be honest with yourself,
is what you want at the end of this trail.
Because you're not interested in the truth.
Okay, the truth will lead you.
I believe the truth and evidence will lead you to these boys are innocent.
Not ethical, but innocent.
Understand the difference.
Not ethical, but innocent.
And then that would be the end of the story.
But that won't be the case.
So what is the end of the story?
And if you can be honest with yourself and articulate that, then you get to a really more interesting question.
Do you think you're actually advancing that end?
Because for every action, there's a reaction.
And for every pendulum swing, the pendulum swings back the other way.
It's the same thing with race.
If you call everything racism, guess what you're going to create?
Real racism.
And if you want to go down this line of like every man is a rapist and every person,
everybody's bad and every woman's a victim, but at the same time, sexual liberated,
I think you're going to have to get a little more open-minded about what you think the end result of all this looks like.
I want to go back to your point about what has been considered sexual assault,
because a few years ago before she was Captain Marvel, Brie Larson,
complained on social media about a TSA agent who asked for her phone number.
He talked to where he asked for her phone number in line.
She was offended by this, and she said now she understands what it's like to be sexually assaulted.
it. That is, what is the interpretation of assault? And when you have a famous actress,
who shouldn't be, out saying that a guy asking for her phone number reminds her of assault,
that's a problem. And it's an example that a lot of women look to and a lot of people look to.
I certainly don't. I wish that people wouldn't. But again, our culture has shifted in all the bad ways.
There's no good way here, because you're right.
not having sex is the answer here.
Like actually being moral, waiting until you're married, that whole thing.
I can't attest to that.
But like, they want their cake and they want to be able to eat it too.
There's just no accountability.
The problem is accountability on everyone's.
And just one more time, I don't let you get in, Dan.
Everyone, I think, Tim, I know Tim.
I, Dan, condemn wholeheartedly want to jail and give.
maximum punishment to rapists.
Big time. Yeah.
The question is, is it
rape? That's
the only question. Is it
rape? And we have
evidence now with Cornell.
Go ahead, Dan. And the women I talk to
who are outraged about this around
me and my life, what they want, the
goal is
accountability. They want it to be
out there. They want it to be normal in society
that rapists and men who sexually assault,
that actually sexually assault and rape,
are held accountable in public, not covered up, and everyone knows about it.
So they see this case as a doorway for that.
So we don't want to let these men get away with it.
So the next person, the next person will be shamed, will be jailed, and that's it.
That's their goal.
That's what they want, really.
The problem is that these same people, and I don't think that just going to jail is punishment enough for rapists, by the way,
they don't care and they brush under the rug when illegal aliens rape and murder women and children.
And they don't want to talk about it.
Or the thousands of girls in the UK.
Yes.
250,000 in that report that were assaulted or raped.
Nothing.
Nothing.
No mention.
No cause.
No story.
Swept under the rug.
Did the governor of New York say anything about that?
Absolutely not.
Did the Lettician James?
No.
Don't give me, that's the UK and this is America.
We talk about, to Tim's point, the allegation is 250,000.
And in this case, we're talking about 13, 14, 12, 15, 16-year-old girls.
Yeah.
Pulled off the streets.
I did check.
I did check.
It says one and four.
The largest study conducted on college campuses, roughly one and four undergraduate
women reported expiring non-consensual sexual contact after entering college, one and four.
Yeah, so what is non-consensual sexual context?
And I'm not saying I don't know.
I think everybody, the thing is, when you say these things, it's like, you don't know.
No, the question is, does everybody involved know?
What's the hard definition of it?
I mean, that's really, it's sort of the same play with the left on the term climate change.
Like, what is climate change?
It's generic and can be interpreted subjectively by everyone involved.
A couple more comments.
Captain B. Willem says, didn't she put her written statement, which the DA hasn't
seen that she is 100% sure she was raped. That came up in our meeting this morning. She's got so many
statements. She's got the statement to campus police. She's got the statement to the prosecutor and
the official police. She's got her text messages. She's got witness testimony at this point.
The problem is she is a unreliable witness. She says things that contradict each other. And the best
that you can do when you come out of that is it's called impeaching the witness in the law.
You impeach the witness. It means they're not credible. Her words can't.
cannot be the defining piece of evidence.
So you turn to other things, like the texts, like the behavior, wanting to return to the frat house, fraternity house.
This is what you do.
This is how you get past.
Well, words can't be trusted because there's different words at different times to different people.
In a case like this, as a defense attorney, you have to bring up past sexual behavior of the person claiming to be the victim.
Really?
It's one of the things you do.
And yeah.
And so you'll dig through texts.
You'll get witness statements if the guys know anybody else who had been involved with her in the past.
It's ugly.
This is a very dark, very ugly case from the get-go.
But what you have to do to defend the guys is by, you have to impeach her and you do everything you can to impeach her.
And it gets really disgusting what you have to dig up on people.
Oh, it's going to get gross.
Imagine the airport.
If nothing happens?
Because the details are, the details are what matter.
And the details are gross to people.
I struggle with that on a national television program speaking to millions who don't want to spend their afternoons hearing about an orgy or rape.
Yeah.
And that's going to be the outcome of this.
You have to dive into every single detail what mail one, male two, male three, male four purportedly did.
Her text messages, her words.
And that's the only way.
It's the details.
And I'll read one more before we go on this topic because not everybody is opposed to.
the way this has been analyzed here at Wilking Country. Valmont says, thank you for saying
what I've been thinking all along. Anyone who has bothered to look at the facts knows all seven
weren't accused of assaulting Jane Doe. Yet online mob is naming and shaming all of them. I'm
especially sick of celebrities using their platforms to attack people. They've never met over
events they haven't witnessed and know next to nothing about. And that's where we are when it
comes to the quote unquote Cornell 7. Sad case, Tim, out of Tennessee. Lady, Krista Pike,
set to be executed for murder by lethal injection, had lethal injection administered twice,
two doses of penibarbital. Through it, she was breathing, snoring. I think she spoke in the
midst of this.
She was singing.
Singing.
And reports are she may have suffered brain damage.
Now, all executions have put on hold in the state of Tennessee, and everybody's looking
into this.
You know, I've gone back and forth on the death penalty throughout my life.
I have very good friends who are very opposed to the death penalty.
For some of these exact reasons right here, that it's not humane.
They come out from a very, very Christian perspective, religious perspective, that lethal injection
is not the nice little nap that everyone wants to pretend that it is.
And my main opposition to the death penalty at other times in my life had been, I can't, I can't tolerate the idea that the state would take the life from someone who could be innocent.
Like if you put, if you took the life from one, one innocent person to me, that would have been enough.
I get so broken up when I see these guys that spend 20 years in prison.
That's horrifying.
DNA evidence exonerates them.
You can't give somebody two decades back.
Can't give it back.
It's horrible.
Taking their life is the ultimate.
I will say I've moved, I'm pro-death penalty.
I think that the evolution of DNA evidence has minimized, I can't say to zero, but pretty
close to zero, the idea that we would be doing this to an innocent person.
And I've gone so far as to embracing the death penalty that I don't think that we as a society
should be doing it by lethal injection.
I think there should be honesty in it.
We should know that we're doing it.
I think quite honestly, I think a firing squad is more humane and more effective, and both parties know what they're doing.
And I think we society should know what we're doing.
We shouldn't lull ourselves into the idea that we're putting someone down for a nap.
We should know.
We're taking someone's life.
It's a real serious thing.
And we have decided, yes, we believe it is right.
I'm extreme when it comes to this stuff.
You know, number one, you're 100% correct.
It is horrifying, and it's always, I don't think I've seen a story, and you can correct me if I'm wrong.
These guys who were locked up 20, 30 years, it was black guys mainly in like the 60s and 70s who were blamed for crimes that they didn't commit.
They wanted to throw away the black guy, and the guy didn't have proper defense.
Not unlike what's happening with the Cornell 7.
Correct. Correct. Not an online mob, but a...
It was a mob. A mob. Southern mob. They were like, we got the guy, we're putting him away, and you'd get these poor African-American males who would get locked away.
see, I'm a little liberal sometimes, but this is the truth, because they were like, we want to find the guy.
Clearly, the bad guy's the black guy.
I don't think that makes you liberal.
I think someone who's interested in the truth.
It's not all black guys, but you're right.
It was a majority.
Yeah, a lot.
Yeah.
I am all for now because of DNA evidence, because of everything else.
I actually, when I worked, I was a clerk in that we're going back to my law school days.
It was clerk in the governor's office, Governor Erlick of Maryland.
I handed him the last petition that a death row inmate,
had with the Supreme Court, the habeas corpus. I handed him the document that they had turned it down,
and then he proceeded with the execution of someone. It was a crazy experience that I had as a
clerk for the governor of Maryland. But when you read the facts of these cases of what gets you
to the death penalty, and that's the thing. Like, there is not a reasonable person who could,
unless you are truly, again, you're close to Jesus level of forgiveness and kindness and, and
believing in the repentance of people. You read the facts of these cases that lead people to the death penalty, and you're like, man, you need to be gone. You need to be gone from this planet. I am more along the lines now of I think it should be public. And I know this might sound crazy, but to deter folks who are in particular, going back to the illegal immigrant thing, where they come from countries where there are no rules whatsoever, they come here, as Trump said, they're sending their worst, basically, to deter people showing how we do it. Not this 90-9.
sleep thing. No. Firing Squad,
I'd be for hanging.
But again, it has to be,
we have to fully litigate cases, we have
to have that DNA evidence, it has to be beyond a shadow
a doubt. And our system,
and heinous.
Again, when you get to the point
and I don't want, if you
are squeamish, if you are uncomfortable
with anything that's kind of along those lines
of death and things like that, do not read these cases.
But if you go in and read the facts of these cases,
the facts of this case, which I had to be
familiar with when I was clerk of
of Governor Maryland.
Horrifying. I cried when I read it.
It was so disgusting.
And I'm like, this man needs to be eliminated from the face of the planet.
Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back with comedian Tim Young when we come back on Will Kane Country.
Welcome back to Will Kane Country.
We're still hanging out with media editor at the Dallas Express and comedian Tim Young.
All right, let's lighten it up here towards the industry.
I want to hit two topics of lighter note.
the Baltimore Rock Opera Society has booted their boss who's white because she sported cornrows at Burning Man.
I think I'm going to pair this with another story.
And that's the story of the- Joy Reed's hair.
Portland Trailblazers announcer hired yesterday, fired yesterday, fired yesterday.
In his 20s, why was this so quick?
because somewhere in those hours after they hired him,
they discovered tweets that he had published in 2012 and 2013.
Those tweets said things like,
I'm not racist at all,
but not going to lie,
Asian people piss me off.
At least make it funny if you're going to go that way.
Girls These Nights, SMH, hashtag thirsty for the D.
That got him fired?
Got to give a shout out to all the big girls out there and those closet, I think he says.
W words, yes.
Oh.
And then we got a slut alert on Isle 10.
I think he also said something about racist towards black people.
I don't have that one in front of me.
But the key here is, is you hear the dates, 2012 and 2013.
Did you hear me say how old he is?
He's in his 20s, late 20s.
So he was 12, 15, and 16.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Dude.
I wouldn't be allowed anywhere if you heard what I said in middle school when I was 12.
I mean, you should audit your own pages, by the way, if you're going to be in media.
I would do that before you got a job.
It's not his fault, but audit them yourself and get things deleted and then do it.
But he's a teenager.
He's a kid.
I mean, come on.
Can I just tell you in like 20, I'll say like 2013, 2014,
I believe, maybe a little bit after that.
John Levine, who was a great reporter
for the New York Post now and I,
sat down and audited our...
We got drinks and we audited each other's Twitters,
just to see if there's anything on them.
And we were both clean.
But we both sat down years ago and went through it.
And like, we both didn't have anything.
He's like, I'm shocked you didn't have anything worse on your page.
And it's like, no, there are reasonable things
that you say and you don't say. And I'm a comedian that worked
blue at one point.
And so, yeah, it's...
But he shouldn't have been fired for that. He was a kid.
I get so tired of these things of us going after children.
It's just like we've done it over and over and over.
Like, at this point I've forgotten.
Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, baseball, Josh Hater, I believe it was.
Over and over, gone after these guys for things they said when they were 13, 14, 15.
It's just, it's a, it's a grotesque symptom of society to morally preen and virtue signal
on top of the behavior of immature teens.
Also, I mean, take a look at what happened with Shane Gillis originally.
Remember, he was hired by SNL, but he had made jokes about Asians or something at some point in his career.
I mean, he was a comedian trying.
He was a comedian just trying out stupid jokes.
And SNL hired him, and because they were super woke at the moment, they fired him immediately, almost a similar story.
It's like, I saw somebody say, you thought woke was dead, it's not dead, and woke 2.0 is going to be worse than work 1.0.
Correct.
And I can't believe this lady.
was fired for getting cornrows.
I can't believe.
Have you been to Baltimore?
Have you seen like...
In 2026.
If you're in...
Everyone is a Brayman.
Also, the Baltimore Rock Opera Society is probably like 20 very offended, very easily offended
losers.
And like, by the way, I was almost part of the Baltimore Improv.
They rejected me, actually.
I think they probably found out I was Republican years and years and years ago when I
started getting into comedy.
The Baltimore Rock Opera Society, they put on shows and the equivalent of like
coffee shops. This is the most media they're ever going to get, by the way.
And it's like 20 super libs that are high-fiving each other because they got rid of this.
They just didn't like her.
I mean, ultimately, that's all it is.
They just didn't like her.
If they liked her, it would be okay.
All right, before we go, let's go to our Friday tradition of checking in with Reddit and finding out, am I the asshole?
Am I the asshole for telling my friend their new business idea probably will not work out?
Here's the post.
I have known Alex for 10 years, and we've always been pretty direct with each other.
Last week, we were grabbing coffee, and they started explaining a new online store idea.
This sounded half formed.
They had not looked into shipping costs or found suppliers yet, but they kept saying it was going to make them rich in six months.
When they asked what I thought, I said it sounded risky and that they should run some numbers first.
Alice got quiet and then told me I was being negative and not supportive.
They have not texted me since.
I still think a reality check is better than watching a friend lose money, but I'm wondering if I should have just nodded along.
Actually, this is a very, very common thing that people encounter.
I don't know.
I have friends.
I have friends that I talk to about my ideas.
And these have been my friends, most of them for 20, 30 years, you know.
And I'll have some who are more pessimistic than others.
And it kind of takes me off.
I know.
But I've also come to expect.
I know I'm going to get this from him.
Sure.
And I'm actually going to do it anyway because I want to hear the holes in my game.
You know what I mean?
I want to see what's wrong.
And there's other friends who are like, go get them.
Awesome.
You know, kill it.
No.
And that doesn't add a lot.
I mean, it's nice emotional support.
But I don't think you're the asshole.
You're aware that I have a tattoo on me and it's no, period.
I'm the person that my friends come to when they want that negative news.
And there have been times when people come to me with really stupid ideas.
And I'm like, if you want to throw your money away.
But also, here's the thing.
Your big money will now.
and I'm doing okay myself.
You've got to have that friend that you keep around because you're nice,
but they're always trying to get that investment from you.
Yeah.
And like, I had one last week.
I'm like, you know, I don't give money to anything, man.
Like, I don't like, because now that they know that you're doing well,
or they want you to promote their stuff and you're like, listen.
And I'm sure you get to use the cover of like the network won't let me do that.
You've got to pay for advertising.
Me, I just have to like straight up say like, dude, your stuff sucks and I'm not going to talk about it.
Like, like, say poke and poke and poke.
The better friend is the one that knows your identity.
idea is bad and thinks it's funny to let you do it anyways, so they encourage you to.
They're like, yeah, man, that's a great idea.
It's hilarious.
Rock star of a friend you got there, Dan.
All right, here's another one.
I'm out of the asshole for asking my partner to stop correcting me in front of friends.
Oh.
We were at dinner with a couple of our friends last weekend, and I was telling a quick story
about something that happened at work.
Halfway through, Alex jumped in to fix a small detail that really did not change the point
at all.
I got a bit embarrassed and asked him pretty quietly if he could hold off on the corrections until we were alone.
He went quiet for the rest of the meal and later told me I made him look bad in front of everyone.
I get why you might feel that way since he sees it as being helpful.
But it always makes me feel like I'm messing up whenever I talk around other people.
I still think the timing was off, so I want to know if drawing that line was out of line.
You can handle this one, Tim.
You should talk to my ex-girlfriend, the most recent one.
You used to correct me in front of people all the time.
And I said, hey, we don't do that.
Like, I don't correct you in front of people.
You don't correct me in front.
Adults don't correct other adults in front of people unless they're trying to put
themselves over and make themselves feel better than the other person.
I think that's largely, that is, that is 80% of the time true.
Performative.
And I think the other 20% is if there's an integral part of the story that was gotten wrong
or an obvious fact, like an important one, she describes, by the way, is everybody's
asshole named Alex.
In both these stories, Alex seems to be the bad guy.
Also an ex-girlfriend's name, my ex-fiance.
But the, she says it was a small detail, not important to the story.
So I think that you can't if it's like, that's not going to quite get it right.
That's going to mess it up.
It's going to lead to worse things, miscommunications.
If we're talking about the in-depth facts of the Cornell case and someone corrects me,
great. If it's like, hey, you use the wrong tense of a word,
burn in hell. There's a line.
I had an ex that did like food reviews for a newspaper and stuff like that.
And whenever we went out, you correct me on pronunciations of like foods and things like that in front of friends, in front of the wait staff.
Like, no, no, no, honey, it's actually pronounced this. It's actually this.
Dude.
Using the term quassant is an automatic dump for me.
Cuisant is the worst thing.
It's never happened to me.
I mean, kind of.
You know, I find this now as well.
I'm on a group text the other day, and I sent a text to a bunch of my buddies.
And I know the difference between your and your, you know, Y-O-U-R and Y-O-U-A-U-A-Postrophe R.E.
I do.
But autocorrect doesn't always.
And I am real bad about pounding out texts and not look.
Do you guys read your text before you hit sin?
No.
Because you can edit now.
Sometimes I'll send nonsensical things.
Sometimes people think I'm stroking out on X actually.
When I post things, just words are out there.
Oh, you do it on X too.
I'm a little, I don't use X much anymore.
But when I do, it's like, I read that thing usually.
But texts, I don't.
Like, I will send things and I'll look back and I'll go,
what are you trying to say here?
And it's autocorrect, you know, putting weird words in.
But I don't know if autocorrect did the your or I did it.
But one of the buddy, my buddies, like, responded asterisk,
and then the correct version of it's always using Y-O-U-R instead of the apostrophe
re-one you know that's the mistake that everyone makes pen out and I'm just like dude we got it
I know I know the difference I don't need you doing that on the group text not that uh not that people still use
not that people still use Facebook a lot to comment on things other than on the the will king country
podcast and show but um I have one time and I never did it again it was somebody was like
they they lost their debt right and they put a post up
and the smiley face, the heart, and the crying emoji, and the hug are very close to each other.
And I hit laugh or whatever it was by accident.
Oh, no.
And then I had to move it.
And I'm like, never again while I send an emoji.
I did.
Yeah, you can change it.
But like it was just, but they got the first notification, LOL, you know, whatever.
Like, never again.
Horrifying.
So yeah, let's dial back the corrections there.
You're not wrong.
Take it easy.
would you do it in public like she did hey enough with the corrections she did she did take it to another level
I waited until everyone left she didn't do it afterwards like she didn't do it in private afterwards like hey I'd like it
I'd like it if you'd stop correcting me in public exactly she did it in front of everybody
in front of everybody that could have been that I did that six months ago I did that to my ex
at a big event you said in front of everybody enough enough yeah we don't do this yeah yeah because
it was it was embarrassing and it was
It really is a, it's like a dominance thing.
It's like an ego thing.
I can't do it, man.
All right, we dominated the airwaves today.
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He's a media editor at Dallas Express
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