Will Cain Country - The History Behind President Trump's Economic Policy From McKinley To Reagan, PLUS A Navy SEAL On How To Create An Invincible Marriage
Episode Date: March 12, 2025Story #1: In 1981, President Ronald Reagan initiated drastic economic measures to change the face of the American Economy that were strongly pushed back upon by the media and the Democrats alike. Th...ere was a short recession and midterm losses for the GOP. But then, two years later, the world was asking about "The American Miracle." Will President Donald Trump's policies have the same ending? Story #2: Jason Redman, a former Navy SEAL and New York Times bestselling author of The Trident, joins the show with his wife, Erica, to discuss their new book, Mission: Invincible Marriage, a battle-tested guide to marital bliss, drawing on the lessons of elite warriors to build a winning relationship, no matter the challenges and traumas that life sends your way. Story #3: Aaron Rodgers to the Vikings? Jameis Winston to the Giants? Will & The Crew discuss potential destinations for the remaining NFL QB Free Agent market. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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One. In 1980, Ronald Reagan implemented drastic economic measures to change.
the United States economy. By 1982, European leaders, after having wrung their hands and
decried the fall of America, and after Ronald Reagan had paid prices in the midterms,
they were now celebrating the American miracle. Ronald Reagan, William McKinley,
what's the historical inspiration for the economic transition of President Donald Trump?
Two, mission invincible marriage.
Former Navy SEAL Jason Redmond and his wife, Erica Redmond,
joins us to talk about one of the toughest missions for us all, a successful marriage.
Three, I don't know what the normal dynamics are.
Maybe it's 2V2, maybe it's 1v3, but news out of the NFL promises to make the dynamics here on this show will against everyone.
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Live today from New York.
Can't you tell?
By my background, today the Will Kane show is coming to you live from New York City.
and broadcasting from studios high above 6th Avenue,
you can see the desert landscape and mountains
that surround me inside my studios of the Will Kane Show.
This is the third natural environment
that we have used as a background, fellas,
and it is, I think, one of my favorites.
I love it.
I love it.
And it is very much not New York.
What do you think this highway leading to the foothills
of these desert mountains
are we?
66, 66, yeah.
You're in Arizona going towards Nevada
and California.
Looks like the Lightning
McQueen movie highway, or what's
his name? Cars. Breaking bad?
Like one of those scenes?
It could be Arizona. It could be California.
It could be Colorado. It could be the
foothills. These are not big...
Colorado looks like that. Interesting.
Yeah, parts of Colorado are dry,
yellow, deserty, southern Colorado.
foothills to the Rockies.
I think we should, I like this.
I think I like the idea of a different physical landscape behind me.
It represents different portions of America.
Like so many people don't like this shot or that shot on the 4 p.m. show.
We talked about the original background of the 4 p.m. show was Maryland, right?
Now it's a small town in Texas.
It makes sense. Maryland.
I can defend Maryland.
Yeah, sure.
Maryland isn't all Baltimore
But I think Will K and I think Maryland
There's a part of Maryland that's very rural
Um
Yeah I want to do
I think this is what I want to do
I want a rotating set of images from across America
That serves as the background
The only problem is television audiences like consistency
True
But we are not consistently in New York City today we are
It's good to see you guys
Two days and Young Establishment James
You've been in the gym James
I notice the biceps, yeah, the arm.
Or you've got the vest on, that could be covering up a different kind of games.
It's, yeah, it's the shirt, it's a little bit of both.
No, Chris DeStefano's advice was well taken.
We're counting calories.
We're in the gym an hour or half a day.
By summer, I'll be, that's a man who pulled down his pants on live television, so I don't know if he should listen to him.
What did he say?
He said you were like two years and ten pounds away from.
He said, he basically said he's like, you're a couple bad months away from looking like Tucker Carlson that needs Osambic.
That's such a weird, weird thing to say.
He's just so on the spot too.
Like, that came right to him.
That was impressive.
And so, James, are you been in Mad Gaines?
You've been in the gym?
Yeah, it's at least 90 minutes a day.
Long, long cardio.
Are you using performance enhancement at all?
Well, that's what screwed it up, was I took creatine, and that's to go up, not down.
So that took a little while to get off.
So I can take creatine.
Yeah, that was your calorie.
James, your calorie counting?
Yeah, that's the most important thing.
It's a simple math equation in and out.
Exactly.
What are you doing?
You're trying to keep below how many calories?
Well, it's, you take some down and take some out, but you just try and eat 2,000, and you try and burn as many as you can.
No, so here's what I do.
I try to be lower than 2,200 every day, period.
Exercise doesn't matter.
Exercise.
No, it matters.
I'm saying it doesn't affect my calorie.
I don't go, oh, I worked out today, so I can go to 2,500 calories.
It's under 2,200 every day.
And then I try to get 170 grams of protein inside of those 2,200 calories.
It's a lot of chicken breast.
What's the carbs out?
Are you below 100 grams a day?
Don't care.
don't care how many carbs I get but the problem is
the way it works is if you are trying to get that much protein and that
few of calories you will make choices and so you don't feel like you're
depriving yourself you're saying I've got to eat this to get to the math like
James said and then if you eat carbs you're going to get a bunch of calories but
not much protein and so you're like ah I don't know how I can get the math to work
you see what I'm saying it's so mental it's it's really all mental too you
like to be able to train yourself to like be able to
okay with the little extra stress or the little like pop off that comes with it it's fun i actually
find the game this and i fell off i did it last summer i did it probably for four or five months
then i fell off until just in the last couple of weeks i've started doing it again and there
the gamification of it is fun like how can i get protein without getting calories and your point james
chicken breast is the answer it's the most protein for the least calories air fried baked
yeah they
but like what do you what do you like a 160
wet is that
is that where you're running out? I'm 175
175
17000 oh damn okay
they do what are you
what are you tinfoil what's your contribution
to this conversation
I don't have one
the audience doesn't know this
no one here I think I can speak for all this
has met you in person
no we have not
I was just
talking about with my wife that day because I was talking to Patrick on the phone yesterday
and she's like have you ever met Patrick in person I said absolutely not I have not
nor have I yeah how tall are you we wouldn't know we wouldn't know how tall are you I've
known you Patrick for how many years now four or five years and I've never met you in person
how tall are you like six one and a half get out of no no stand up I thought he's going to say
like six six you're six one Patrick don't lie I'm six one
I'm 6-1 on
I'm 6-1 on the dating apps
What would you guys have guessed?
For real
5-10
5-10
5-10
I only see you sitting
Patrick I was going to go lower
I was going to go lower
I was going to go lower
Don't show your driver's license
Don't show your driver's license
No at all
That's a bad idea
That's a terrible idea
Your whole information's on there
6-1
James what were you going to get
I would say 510 510
But the one thing is that one of Patrick's favorite historical periods was the Napoleon era.
So I did wonder if he might have been short.
That's just mean.
I'm sorry.
And you know the other thing, Patrick, I feel like you really identify with what do we call the dudes on the internet that feel disaffected?
Like, um, not, uh, not incels.
Are you calling Patrick an in cell?
Well, we know he's not because he's got six kids.
No, but the disaffected youth of the internet sort of thing is you kind of like you really identify with that.
And I think there's something about that movement that reads short to me.
Like there's just something about that that, you know, society has not treated me right.
Society doesn't value me as a man.
And there's a part of it's like, I bet you're short.
Not you, Patrick, the guy who kind of feels that way.
I bet there's an over index of short guys in that group.
Do you think I'm wrong on that?
I never even articulated that out loud.
And I'm saying it right now.
I'll bet you there's a lot of short, disaffected dudes on the internet.
Yeah, probably a lot of, you know, my brother is maybe 5'9.
He kind of has that vibe.
It's tough.
Yeah.
Do you know that?
I mean, he's not his wife of kids, but, you know.
Patrick, let me tell you something.
it's not an insult because the number one thing I get when I meet people in person
every time you are way taller than I thought you would be I get that too I mean I read
apparently I read short what do you come in at well actually I say six two but I think
if I'm being honest I am six one and a half probably right in there like I think I'm just short
of six two yeah same same and I mean it's kind of like what you're saying like Eric Trump we just
learned is six five like i had no idea er trump was six five no clue yeah i don't know why i didn't
like of course if baron is six nine i know and dr trump is six four yeah why didn't i think eric
trump is six five but he doesn't read six five to me he didn't look by the way he doesn't read short
either he reads like me six one you know six two yeah six five is like ooh that's a tall guy you know
do you remember that viral video from the bagel shop with that angry little short guy and he kind of like
claps out at someone who goes you're not god and you're not my father
no no all right i'll bring it up for your references are staggering
yeah good story james
it'll hit when you see the video
this is why i keep a governor on you james right
you know the minute that your horse feels like it's time to start running
is the minute that we're in trouble yeah like you you need to
you are a reins horse not a spurs horse no
At no point do we need to kick you in the sides for more James.
We need to be dialing you back, keeping you at the governor limited speed.
Because the next thing you know, we're talking about some video that nobody's ever seen on the internet.
I literally don't know what that video is.
You'll like it when I show it.
I'm connected and I don't know.
Let's get to this today because we got two guests in studio that I want to talk to.
I'm excited to.
I've swam the Hudson River with him twice.
We have done the New York City Navy SEALs him together on numerous occasions,
but today he has a brand new book out entitled mission invincible marriage it's jason redman along
with his life erika redmond but first story number one markets up markets down short-term losses
short-term gains uncertainty when it comes to the economy the effect of tariffs the effect of
government spending cuts layoffs within the government but what you might not be hearing today is
here are three very important markers in the economy inflation
down. All of the worry about tariffs and their effect on inflation. Inflation coming in
at some of the lowest rates it has in months and years. See a chart if you're watching the
Wilcane show on YouTube or on Facebook that inflation is down. What does that read to a day? Is that
1.32%? I can't, it's too far away for me to read. Yep, between 1.2 and 1.4.
Yep. Well, how about that? Okay, inflation down to that level. Now, take a look at gas prices.
gas prices also down significantly i need you again tell me those numbers is too far away for me
to read two days we got what is that price for gallon right just below three just below three so how
far back we go in there is that two years going back to where it was almost five dollars a gallon that is
three years yep we're 22 22 22 okay now how about this always the big marker for inflation
everybody talks about how about egg prices egg prices now back down to the level at
which this conversation started about tariffs and so forth. In other words, the start of the Trump
administration. Egg price is still high. That started way back in the fall and throughout the
latter part of the Biden administration. We've talked about this, when they killed a bunch of hens,
you know, a bunch of layers, egg layers. Those are different than broilers that you eat chicken.
But egg prices down to the level at which they were at the beginning of Donald Trump's
inauguration. So three big indicators on the health of the economy, all positive beyond the
stock market. Still, there has been some conversation about this is short-term pain to achieve
long-term gain. The Trump administration looking to establish a different financial footing for
the United States economy, one that is healthier, with closer to a balanced budget, smaller
deficits, and drawing down our national debt. But that big vision hasn't really been laid out,
And it's not been clear what is there a model for this.
But Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik has laid out a model.
And it's President William McKinley.
Watch.
At the turn of the century, our economy was rocking.
This is 19, 125 years ago.
We had no income tax.
And all.
All we had was tariffs.
All we had was tariffs.
And we had so much money that we had the greatest businessmen of America get together to try to figure out how to spend it.
That's who we were then.
But then we had World War I and World War II.
And we felt we had a duty.
to spend.
That's when we started spending
out of those world wars
and the Great Depression.
Tariffs.
Man, he's got a New York accent.
He's so New York.
Did you guys hear Donald Trump
yesterday when he was outside
the White House with Elon Musk
and the Teslas?
Did he hear when he said,
everybody buy a Tesla?
Tesla.
That's the biggest part
people miss with his accent
is that there's a New York part
in it from Queen.
Like the early 80s videos of him,
it's just pure Queens.
But help me with this real quick
as just a side note.
Who puts R's on the end of words, the end in vowels?
Tesla, Tesla.
Who does that?
Is that a Northeast thing?
It's not even an R.
It's more of like a, uh.
Tesla, Tesla.
Tesla.
Yeah, I think it comes off.
It's the New York is Tesla.
Tesla.
It's just the, it sounds like an R, but it's more New York accent.
Also, is it Tesla or Tesla?
Tesla, right?
Nikola Tesla.
You mean, do you pronounce it with a Z instead of an S?
Is it Nikola Tesla?
That I don't know.
I've always gone with Tesla.
Have you ever heard New Gingerts say Washington?
Washington?
Huh?
Is it like with a
Hua?
No, it's with an extra R.
Washington.
Washington.
Oh.
Yeah.
I think Gingrich says that.
I don't also know, I don't know what part of the country does that.
adds in extra R's.
Tesla, Georgia?
Washington.
Gingertz was from Georgia and spent a lot of time in Louisiana.
But his accent...
I don't think it's a Souther.
I don't think that's a Southern.
I feel like it's a Southern.
Minnesota thing. Minnesota. They say, like, I'm from Minnesota. I think it's up there. Yeah, I'm almost positive. It's almost Canadian. I almost feel like it's a Maryland, D.C. thing. Like, that, whatever you call that, transatlantic, Atlantic accent. I don't know. But we don't say Washington or Tesla here. Howard Lutnik definitely has a New York accent. So he brings up William McKinley. High tariffs, low income tax, no income tax. But we've moved beyond the economy of the 1800s, the late 1800s. We can't. It's, it's,
I would love an economy with no income tax. Love it. Don't know how that's feasible. I don't know how you get enough government spending cuts to get to that place. So is there another historical model? Well, there was another president that came in in the first two years of his administration made radical economic changes, deregulation and lowering income taxes. And it led to upheaval, uncertainty, and questioning by many big economists and world leaders. That man's name was Ronald Reagan. Two years later, the American,
economy was being described as the American miracle. Here is former President Ronald Reagan explaining
those first economic gears. It was back in 1981 and I was attending my first big economic summit
which was held that year in Canada. The meeting place rotates among the member countries.
The opening meeting was a formal dinner for the heads of government of the seven industrialized
nations. Well, I sat there like the new kid in school and listened and it was all Francoise
this and helmet that, they dropped titles and spoke to one another on a first-name basis.
Well, at one point, I sort of leaned in and said, my name's Ron. But in that same year, we began
the actions we felt would ignite an economic comeback, cut taxes and regulation, started to cut
spending, and soon the recovery began. Two years later, another economic summit with pretty much
the same cast at the big opening meeting we all got together and all of a sudden and just for a moment
i saw that everyone was just sitting there looking at me and then one of them broke the silence
tell us about the american miracle he said can we just take a minute and go that's a storyteller
right like wow yeah like really that was a storyteller my name's ron it was all francis francois
helmet that you're on long for the ride as he's telling you this story i just kind of struck me
there like i mean i know he's an actor the actor oh no i will back to the future political purposes
we should say those economic measures taken by ronald regan did come with a political cost i want
you to look at what happened in the 1982 midterms the senate midterms republicans lost
um what is it it was a net seat change of democrats plus one
in the senate in the house james didn't we see also was a 26 seat swing in the house yeah it's
the bottom yeah you can see on the bottom of that graph you're watching on youtube or facebook
so democrats after these economic policies are implemented and there is short-term pain they made
gains in the midterms in the house and the senate it brings up the question you know what what
happens here if there is short-term pain it's pretty remarkable that
donald trump is willing to put up with that um maybe he has a different vision for how long that will
last. Will there be a political price to pay in the 2026 midterms for Republicans? And if that's the
case, the point isn't just a political price. What can you get done year three and year four?
You know, once you don't have control of the House, where there's only a one vote majority right now,
then what kind of measures can you implement going forward? Ronald Reagan had a great relationship
with Democratic leader Tip O'Neill, and they continue to push that economic vision forward.
I think we're well past that day.
I don't think there's any day we can see where Democrats work with Donald Trump.
But I'll leave you with this.
This is Ronald Reagan once again describing that American miracle.
Well, back in 1980, when I was running for president, it was all so different.
Some pundits said our programs would result in catastrophe.
Our views on foreign affairs would cause war.
Our plans for the economy would cause inflation to soar and bring about economic collapse.
I even remember one highly respected economist saying back in 1982
that the engines of economic growth have shut down here
and they're likely to stay that way for years to come.
Well, he and the other opinion leaders were wrong.
The fact is, what they called radical was really right.
What they called dangerous was just desperately needed.
And in all of that time, I want a nickname, the great communicator.
That's incredible.
And that seems to me today that it should be the message if it's what they believe of the administration of Donald Trump.
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I'm joined now by Jason and Erica Redmond.
Great to see you guys.
What's up, man?
As always, great to see you.
So Erica and I just met outside.
Nice to meet you, Erica.
Yes, absolutely.
Jason and I have swam the Hudson two or three times together.
That's right.
conquered the great beast and we will do it again this year we will yeah it's awesome new
york city navy seal swim put on by our mutual friend organized by our mutual friend bill brown a lot
of great sponsors though yeah um yeah three miles across the hudson 300 push-ups 66
yeah that's right pull-ups 66 pull-ups roughly i don't know two miles are running with flags
yeah forget about the running part yeah it's actually it's a shuffle yeah it's a shuffle
Yeah, it's a shuffle.
I'm thinking, Jason, I want to put a team together, and I've been thinking about this.
Maybe some people to listen.
There was Brent Sierraano, who's a big fan of the show, he joined his last year and did it.
And I was thinking about getting a group of guys together to do this, but I can't decide.
I mean, it's an amazing experience, but you've got to sell it for, I mean, it's not easy.
You've got to sell it, and you've got to train.
Even I have to train for this swim.
I mean, it is not, you know, if you maintain a high level, you're doing high-level cardio and all that all the time,
then maybe you don't have to train.
But swimming's different.
It is.
Yep.
And I don't normally, because I travel so much, I don't get to swim all the time.
So then it leads in.
We actually talk about it.
It's funny in the book because I'm, you know, once I get locked in, it's like laser-focused.
Total OCD on it.
And I want to just figure out how to like detox you after before you come home.
Detox from the river?
Yes, yes.
I don't know.
Shots.
I don't know what you need, but something.
Something.
I think it makes you strong.
I think it means you're never going to get sick.
Yeah, we have super strong immune systems, so yeah.
He gets OCD about training for that.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, yeah, he's very task-focused.
So if he's, you know, if he's got a specific goal like that, yeah.
What does he do?
I don't want to ask him.
I don't you tell me, like, to train for that, what am I dealing with here?
You know, I mean, we're going on vacation.
We're going down to Florida.
And so, you know, he's bringing his fins.
And he's, you know, the red flags are out on the, on the beach.
that day and he was like oh what what does that mean and no he's you know training so
it's just so you're swimming it's not just vanity muscles I know I know there's
some vanity lifting go oh of course I mean come on man you're on you're on
national media you got to look good you can't look like you know you don't want
to be that seal that people on TV are like look at that fat and it's even
worse I'm a smaller guy so then you're the skinny fat guy and that's the
worst oh you skinny fat right that
That's what I run the risk of.
That's what I run the risk of.
Yeah.
So it's a bad look.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
So I just start lifting again like two weeks ago.
You got to.
And with that in mind, by the way, Vandy is a very powerful motivator.
I'm telling you.
It's a good accountability.
All you got to do is throw some cameras out there and you're like, which leads us to,
she gets on me because I cut the alcohol, my diet is tight.
I mean, leading up to that event.
So you got to.
Eric, is your personality way different than Jason?
he's task focused he's oCD in these things and this takes us into the conversation about marriage
are you similar are you the opposite i think i'm the opposite i'm much more easy going go with the
flow which probably works well together i would imagine if we were both um these driven type a
that that that could be a challenge at times yeah that's interesting i don't know you know you've
heard that at various times do opposites attract or do you need do you need someone who at least
shares your base level. So the book is Mission Invincible Marriage. You guys have written this
together, a battle test guide to enduring relationships. And I was reading through the book. And,
you know, one of the chapters that really caught my attention is this idea of building your
invincible values. You have to have shared values. How do you reconcile that with maybe that
idea that opposites attract? Is that, you think, more superficial things were your opposites?
I mean, I think, you know, our personalities are a little bit different in how, but
our values are still very much aligned. I mean, we're both driven. We're both, you know,
entrepreneurs. We're both, you know, we both wanted a family. So I still think, I mean,
you can have differences of how you go about it, but I still think those core values.
Conservative values. I mean, all those things were very much aligned. Maybe how we do some
things are different. And I think that's the key. I think that would be difficult. Who is at James
Carville, him and his wife, were very opposite on the political spectrum. I think that would be
difficult to be in a marriage, especially in these divided times where, you know, both parties have
taken such extreme stances against each other. I don't know if that would work. That'd be difficult
for us. Yeah, my wife says that to me a lot. She talks about how divided we are. I actually
push back on that idea that we're dividing, only because I guess I think of like divide as like
these two teams that are polar opposites. And to me, the teams have been totally scrambled in
in what they vote what they believe there are some things that are complete outliers like can men
be women can women can women be men should men play in women sports that one's clear but like politically
i don't know tariffs that wasn't a right wing thing before right that's kind of a left wing thing so my
point is like i feel like the deck is shuffled yeah and so to say we're divided for me it's mostly
at this point on what feels like not surface level it just always comes back to don't
Trump. It's just like that's it. If you hate Donald, I don't know how somebody who hates Donald Trump could be married to somebody that love Donald Trump. How about that? I would agree with that. I mean, we've had family who are not fans of Donald Trump and it is creative, massive conflict points. There's rules at certain holiday gatherings. That's certain things out. Not only talk about these things. So, but I mean, for us, it's it's not there. We were aligned. And I think that's a very intentional thing. If we come full circle back to relationships and marriage,
And we talk to people about this.
I've actually coached some young couples about this.
It is critical that you establish what those values are in your relationship at the beginning.
Because I think sometimes, you know, we get caught up in the physical intimacy, you know, the mesh of lust and love and all these different things, exactly.
And we'll gloss over maybe little, we think they're little things like, oh, you want kids, I don't want kids.
Oh, you have this view on the world.
I have this view on the world.
These aren't that big a deal.
The problem is over time, those are big deals, and they will build up.
If you're not aligned on the value set in the beginning, I think oftentimes people think, oh, they'll change over time.
And I'll tell you what, 90% of the time people don't.
What are those for you to, what are your invincible values?
What were your shared values?
I mean I definitely think family was you know was a biggie right off the bat I had you know I was a single mom and so but you know children was something that you know he absolutely wanted so you know thankfully we were we were aligned in that in that aspect yeah money I think those are big ones how you view money that's grown over time but it was always our money and I think that's a big conflict in marriage
You know, if you go into it, everything about your values, in my opinion, should be we and not me.
So you can have, there are shared dreams that are critically important in a marriage.
You should be coming into it.
These are our shared dreams.
Someday we're going to have kids.
Someday we're going to live in Dallas.
Someday we're going to own XYZ, a home or a condo.
You know, we're going to vacation with the parents because family is really important.
But at some point, you know, we're going to do Christmas here and we're going to do Thanksgiving there, whatever.
These are actually big deals and they cause big conflicts.
And for us, we established all that stuff in the beginning.
And it really allowed us to be smooth.
Don't get me wrong.
It's ad-de-flow.
Some things have changed over time.
But it was always this shared goal without losing sight of, hey, I have my goals.
I mean, my goal was to be a career Navy SEAL.
That definitely wasn't her goal.
I mean, that's a very hard thing to, you know, she didn't grow up as a little girl like, boy, someday I hope I marry my Prince Charming, who's a Navy SEAL who will never be around and has a high propensity to be killed or wounded.
Okay, but we're going to come back to that in a minute.
I want to do this, this idea of these values.
You actually changed my mind on something.
I think a take that I've, so I was joking around at the outset of this conversation I'm selling a Navy SEAL and watching a stupid dating reality show, but I do watch it.
It's called Love is Blind.
Is this the on Netflix?
It's viral right now.
There's a newspeg to this.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I was, I'm going to say, first of all, here's what love is blind is.
Was it, the Jewish, is that the one I'm thinking of?
Did we watch or?
No.
No, no.
Okay.
So they take these contestants and they date each other without seeing each other.
They go in pods and they talk.
They just talk and they get to know each other, right?
And the idea is, can you fall in love blindly?
And then they introduce them to each other physically.
You get to see and, you know, some of them wash out after that.
You're like, I guess,
love isn't blind because I'm not attracted to you.
And then they go on a honeymoon and then there's physical intimacy
and then they introduce them to their real lives.
They get their phones back and they go back into the real world.
And then ultimately they meet their family and their friends.
So they keep giving them little elements of the real world to see, does their love survive?
And of course, it's under a ridiculously condensed time frame.
However, this season, there is a girl and she asks in the pods,
how do you feel about BLM and Black Lives Matter?
and he's like, I don't really have
he kind of gives off the impression that he's
not that political, right? I don't have
strong opinions. And she's like, well, it's a really big
deal to me. Really big deal. George Floyd
this and that. And then as the
season goes on, and I guess
two days, are you listening?
Because he's caught up. Yeah, I'm here. Two days.
Yeah. I'm not caught up. So I'm
not, but I do know
because it's already been in the news. She says
no at the altar, right? She does.
And she says no with the altar
because of his opinions on BLM and LGBTIQIA plus stuff.
Well, it was his lack of opinion, actually, because he...
But she doesn't have an opinion.
Exactly.
She doesn't even know if he disagrees.
Yep.
But she walks away.
And she's kind of getting killed on social media for putting this stuff.
Because she has her beliefs.
But my point is, like, that was my gut instinct is, like, why have you allowed that
to become so much of your identity that everything else is subservient to your opinion
of BLM?
Like, love.
You clearly enjoyed this person.
you like there was things you connected on but this thing has become so important in your life
that everything else has to kneel at the altar of your political opinion but you're telling
me something different jason i'm kind of like no no no this is part of what you should vet i i agree
i really do because those are going to become conflict points in your marriage as time goes on you
know when we watch the news eric and i 99% of the time are aligned in our beliefs are our political
beliefs our belief in the direction of our country you know um we're conservative in our views um
and i think that's a critical thing because that will impact that will filter down to how you
raise your children the messaging you give to your children the things that you want to do
where you want to go churches it shape your value system drives the decision-making in your
life and i kind of agree i mean i don't think you need to be
Massively extreme. I always think extremism is dangerous in any capacity. But at the same time,
you do need to be convicted in your beliefs. And I disagree with Black Lives Matter. I do. I disagree
with the stances they've taken. They're very against. And they'd be hard for you to marry someone.
They're against this. They're against the nuclear family. They feel like, oh, no, a tribe can raise our people.
You don't need a marriage. But unfortunately, statistics don't show that. They show a strong couple raise more successful kids in the long run.
difficult for not to say big shout out to all the single moms that are out there not
to say that they can't do it but it's much more difficult it has been proven right
statistically it bears out there's always exceptions you can point to success stories
but we know on the on the whole statistically the best way to raise a successful
children and a society is with the foundation of the nuclear family it's this to your point
exactly which was one of the big reasons we were so passionate about writing this so
I don't I would I would bet that going back you know
know how we're like oh this is really driving you why is this so important why is this driving you
um i would i think if you dug deeper the core values then didn't didn't align so maybe she was
like this stuff is important to me but there was more things underneath the surface that
didn't necessarily so it is interesting i i maybe there is more to it that like verbally
getting to know somebody and having those important conversations right up front i don't know
maybe you know and and that comes back to a lot of interviews over the last day this book came
out yesterday one of the core things that people always came back to and it's the core thing in
the book is communication it is and it's funny everything in this book goes back to like special
operations principles and we made it fun so for the average for the average guy out there this is
the book for you man i never read a relationship book up until we started researching for this one
but in special operations and in the military the most critical part of any mission is communication
our ability to communicate our comms I mean we get very detailed we know it is the most critical
things missions will can fail based on on communication failures well guess what life is that
way business is that way and learning to have those uncomfortable conversations in the beginning
is really important to be able to say, hey, you know, Will, I really like you, but, you know,
your views on this don't align with mine. And I don't know if we can overcome that. And I think
that's a problem. Oftentimes people go into relationships thinking, that's not that big a deal in
the beginning because we allow, hey, I enjoyed talking to you. I enjoyed hanging out. You know,
you're a great bowler and we enjoyed bowling together, you know, whatever it is. And then time builds. And it's like,
oh, I keep coming back to this value point that we're not aligned on.
And we do talk about that in the beginning, but I ignore it.
Staying on this one more moment, Erica, do you think, though, the couples evolved together?
Oh, absolutely.
I was going to say, like, I don't think my wife and I, we were never opposites.
We never had conflicting opinions, but I probably, anybody could guess this.
I was a little more convicted or had hard opinions, you know, on some things where she was like,
okay, yeah, you know, I don't, but she would say when she disagreed.
But I do think over time, we have really grown together to see the world not a hundred percent the same way, but much more aligned.
So I think you have to make room for couples to grow together.
Absolutely.
I mean, our daughter got married.
And I think, you know, we really like the guy.
He's a great addition to our family.
But they were so young.
I mean, she was 20.
So, you know, thankfully they've been married two years.
But that, you know, that is, I mean.
Going back, communication is so key that you are communicating and that you're growing together,
especially if you're, you know, like we were where he was in the military and I was raising young children, you know, home alone.
You know, so how do you communicate even if you're on two very different paths so that you do grow together?
Every time you say this, by the way, on communication, I say there to think, you know, I host the Will Cane Show from Dallas,
everybody who runs the real can shows in New York.
And I'm going to have to work extra hard.
When I was listening to you, I was saying,
I'm going to have to work extra hard
to ensure that communication is not going to be a failure point for us,
to your point, of your missions, of marriages, of all these things.
But you did that.
Like, you may not have done that with teams
because you were probably constantly physically around the team
to execute muscle memory and mission and all that.
But you two, you were physically apart.
So communication is making your marriage successful,
put under difficult circumstances.
And now, I mean, it's different.
Okay, we don't have the threat of, you know, he's in danger or anything, but he travels
extensively now.
So, I mean, there's hardly any days that we're not either texting or touching base.
And it's not like control or he needs to know where.
Like, we're just, we're in constant communication and constant dialogue.
So he may be somewhere else doing something completely different, but we still know what
each other's going through.
Well, and it goes so far beyond.
I mean, the last part of the book talks about children, raising children, and it talks about couples in business.
And, I mean, we run five businesses together, short-term rentals, commercial building, the speaking company.
It's constantly requiring decisions, financial decisions, decisions, this, hiring decisions, problems.
So beyond just our relationship, there becomes the additional communication that's having to happen all
time related to hey this is going on that is going on yeah um i keep saying i'm going to come back
to this i am going to and i and i hate to deprive the audience of you know fully understanding who
you are jason i think and i hope for many that have watched or listened to me in the past they've
met you in the past because you've been on the show a couple of times and i want to come back to that
but i have to keep following each curiosity thread there um the the the things you guys do
together the businesses and so forth do you have trouble separating ever this is who we are together
professionally and then we have to switch back into loving personal mode do you know what i'm saying
and here's something my wife and i talk about what we focus my wife and i focus on our kids a lot
and we talk about our kids a lot and i've read enough i know hey that might not always be healthy
because you got to have something once those two for me in my case two boys are gone and so my point is
that loving connection that you're building has to be something you can separate from your
businesses and even your kids. It is. And I do think, I think you go through different seasons
of life where, you know, absolutely when we had travel soccer, travel volleyball, I felt like
everything revolved around the kids. Now they're all young adults. So we are kind of at that
phase where they're leaving the nest. And thankfully, I think we are friends and do like each other.
So that transition has actually been really easy for us.
What aren't you guys saying?
You said what?
And y'all are looking at each other.
Well, we're joking about you were asking about the do we butt heads and sometimes
they're all 1,000 percent there's an overlap.
I can't tell you how often we'll go out to dinner on a date night and we're like,
okay.
No mention of business.
No mention of business.
We fail.
And now we'll last like 10 minutes and then it'll come up.
I mean, it's just very difficult.
But I would say the difference.
For us, we're both entrepreneurs.
We love creating something.
We love the challenge of a business.
Don't get me wrong.
I mean, we often joke like we bought this commercial building last year.
And I think every other day we're like, let's buy a commercial building.
It'll be great.
You know, because there's so many problems and so many challenges to renovating a building
and launching a new business.
But everything that we've done is tied to goals and dreams together.
It is part of the journey to get where we want to go, and it's part of the things that we want to do.
So for us, happy money is great.
Don't get me wrong, but we're not tied to it.
We both did not have a lot of money when we were younger, and if it all went away tomorrow, we'd still be okay because we have each other.
And we enjoy being with each other.
It's not tied to money or a big house or any of those things.
The things that really make a difference for us is time together.
like we want to do things with our kids vacation with our kids that was one of my
financial goals when I was a kid we didn't have a whole lot of money for vacation
we didn't do a lot of that so it became my mission like someday I want to have enough
money that every year I want to have a big vacation and for our kids that are growing
up and soon grandkids to be able to say you never have to worry about money all
you need to do is just come with us you know just block it off in your calendar so
those right there's a there's a end state goal to where we're going and
And it's aligned with, you know, Erica's, our chief operations officer and running so many parts of the backside of the business because I'm gone and I'm building relationships and things like that.
But they both come together for what we want in the end.
All right.
Let's do this now.
The payoff.
And it's part of who you are, Jason, is part of also what's important about this book.
The stat was somewhere I had 90%.
Is it of special forces or special operators?
or is it military in general?
No, it's definitely special operations.
I mean, the military is still high.
I would be willing to say the military is at a 60 to 70%
similar to police and fire.
We're talking about divorce rates.
Correct.
Police and fire and military, 60% to 70% divorce rate.
And America now, we're over 50% divorce rates in this country.
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And amongst operators.
90%. The SEAL team specifically, but, yeah, and wounded warriors. I saw that. So go another step
further. So first of all, seal team, you're saying maybe not all operators? Yeah, I mean, we definitely
know we have some one of the highest in the military. So often special operation force in general are very high.
It's a very difficult job on family. And then catastrophic injuries, even higher yet, which by the way,
Jason, you obviously suffered for anybody that doesn't know. It's 1,200 stitches. I don't know how many
surgeries shot in the face yeah shot in the face two two rounds in the two machine gun rounds in the
elbow and machine gun round of the face and then jason's been on the show he's talked about it i would
encourage anyone to go look up what jason posted on his hospital room door that tells you a little bit
about who this man is and what kind of guy he is but that puts you in some real rare statistical
categories for a successful marriage to see through that entire thing why why are the stats
let's leave aside the injury part for a moment just to help me understand the 90%
rate. I mean, I can make my guess is PTSD, substance abuse, things like this. I don't, I don't, why 90%?
That's at the upper level. I actually think it goes back to the beginning. I think there's specific
things. Number one, I'm not sure. Most of our military members are young. We're young, man. I was,
I was 17. I was still in high school when I joined the military. I was a little older. Eric and I met
when I was 23. We were married when I was 25. We were very fortunate because we were very
intentional about how we went into our marriage. There were certain things that had happened in
our lives. Number one, both our parents were divorced. A little bit of conflict, a little bit of
drama on both sides, which shaped us like we don't want to grow up. We don't want our kids to
grow up this way. So guess what? If we're getting married, it's for life. We both had come out of
bad relationships prior to meeting each other. So there were lessons learned there. So when we came
together, we were very deliberate, like, hey, these are our values, this is where we're going,
this is what I want in my life. And we really map that out. I'm not sure our guys always do that.
I think some might, but I think many don't. Many, unfortunately, we're on the road. We meet somebody
on the road, which is exactly how we met. And I saw this happen a lot. Guys would meet a gal and
You know, I was a central in South America guy, so many guys would meet some down south and
they'd end up getting married, but they never really had time to build the foundation.
Now, fast forward into this very difficult job.
You're gone all the time.
Even in training, we're not home.
We do all our training all across the country.
I mean, in my last year prior to deploying, it was one of my jobs as an officer to track time away and stuff like that.
It was like 280 days we were gone.
That's not in our deployment year.
That was in our training year leading up to deployment.
So that's very difficult on families.
And the last component, I think, that unfortunately breaks a lot of soft marriages is guys are very mission focused.
So the mission, the training, the team gets placed on a really for some of them on a higher pedestal than the family.
And they get this mindset.
And I see this in law enforcement and fire also of either or.
like either it's the job or my family and if I have to choose one I'm going to choose the job
I've seen this happen so many times and it almost becomes like this breaking point where the
spouse says hey it's either me or the job and 90% of the time the guys go it's the job and it doesn't
have to be that way that was one of the things we wanted to talk about we've seen other successful
married seals who've made it through this soft guys and it's just it's being intentional
It's communicating. It's sharing what you can. There were many things I couldn't share with Erica, you know, classified things. But there were other things that I could share with her. Hey, I'm doing this. I'm training this. You know, we talked probably as often as we could when I was deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan. And there were many things I couldn't tell her. And there were many things I didn't tell her because I didn't want her to worry plus, you know, offset things. So frequently I was like, yeah, we're not doing a whole lot, which wasn't really.
true. All of that adds up. I mean, any marriage put to the test of how long you're away,
period, combined with the stress of the job. And I think for me, and I'm out over my skis here,
but it is an opinion that I do kind of believe that I think PTSD is a real thing. But I think,
but I also think for guys like you who, and, because I, you know, I was in sports for a long time,
Jason, I was at ESPN, and you're comparable to a professional athlete. When you're so good at
something and so focused on something and so driven and then that thing goes away like we're talking
about retirement now when it's over that's a loss of identity for guys and I think you know I'm not
saying they don't have PTSD but I think sometimes what gets mixed up into PTSD is a loss of identity
100% and then falling into depression and imagine what that then does to a marriage so it's actually
how we we opened the book this was a few years after Jay had been wounded and life was good you know like
our nonprofit at the time was doing well we were gearing up for an event he was done with surgeries
our kids were all good so and i think so many people can relate to a time in their life where you're
looking around and everything you should be happy like everything should be okay but you just
don't feel that way um i mean my recommendation to anybody going through something similar
to that was i had to be really careful not to attack or not to say you're doing you're doing
doing this like something's wrong um you know we were very intentional of never throwing out i want
a divorce or i want this i was struggling during this time you kind of skipped over that i was
struggling during this time and i started pushing everybody away including erika and the kids and
just kind of numbing my sorrow with alcohol and i couldn't it was just the mental and invisible wounds
of war were really catching up with me plus i was starting the process to medically retire i knew
that my career was coming to an end.
So I was careful in how I approached it, but, you know, telling him, like, this is how
it starts.
This is the beginning of the end if we don't figure something out.
I mean, there's a lot of different, I just feel like sometimes people don't approach it
correctly, making them not open to, you know, the different help and the different things.
So he did end up going and getting medical help.
And that was something that, you know, really made a difference for him.
But there's all kinds of options.
But I just think if I would have approached it aggressively or, you know, like saying, you know, you did this or there's something wrong with you, I don't know if he would have been open to hearing it or understanding it.
So I think I was able to approach it in a way that he was like, okay, I've got to figure something out.
what's so interesting about this is this is when it became hard on your marriage right i'm sure there
are other parts but you know you just went through something because this is after your surgeries
this is after at least some level of physical recovery and you're you know again famously what
you put outside your your door is don't come in you're feeling bad for me don't come in here
this is not a place of morning or sorrow or whatever um this is a place of you know my next
mission essentially like so that's the mindset you have then but
afterwards is when you hit your low point after all of that several years later yeah and i think
that's very common i mean you nailed it it's it's the you're it's a transition it's that which
is the hardest part for most of us and saw it's a career yeah most guys we do 20 years and it was
my goal to do 20 years i told erika when we met i'm going to do 20 years and and she supported me
in that so facing that um coupled with trauma
I mean, you're absolutely right.
I will say going back to the beginning, if you don't have a strong foundation in the beginning,
if your values weren't aligned, if you didn't figure out how to have these hard conversations,
it was such a shock to me when Erica did what she did because she actually violated one of our rules of engagement,
or at least she came close to it.
One of our rules of engagement was no ultimatums, no name calling, no pulling up the past.
You could never, and in those ultimatums, we could never bring up the D word.
divorce you could never bring that up ever and when she said hey you know this isn't working
you know this is you know if you're not careful this is the beginning of the end it was such a
and i was like what are you talking about and she was like the beginning of the end of our marriage
if you can't figure this out and it was such a shock to me um because family has been so important
to me in our relationship and our kids like it made me like i got to go get some help i can't
can't fix this on my own, which I think is what so many of us do.
You know, I can, we're problem solvers, man, like some of the best in the world.
I mean, learning on the battlefield how to figure things out and navigate out of impossible
situations and suddenly, you know, you get inside your own head and you can't figure out
how to get out of it.
And you're like, I'm losing my identity.
This is come to the end.
What do I do in the civilian world?
All those things are really difficult.
So we had a foundation.
We had built it.
Our values were aligned.
We knew where we wanted to go.
We had dreams for after the military.
I needed to get back focused on those.
And we had figured out how to communicate through those hard conversations that sometimes people just avoid, which only builds up until finally it becomes a implosion point.
Erica, the attention that a guy like Jason would get, not only for what he accomplishes,
and accomplished but also what he recovered from is is it's got jason is the guy that goes through it
right physically he also is the guy that gets a lot of attention for surviving it and you know people look at
you with admiration that's just the way it is in your life you walk through this world and people think
you're a badass and they admire you but on your side there's very little public um what's the word
not support but appreciation yeah you know um and i and i think that it's the reason i think this is
interesting to bring up is it's not unique to you the spouse of the people going through it whatever it
is probably people don't appreciate how hard that is for them cancer the spouse of the cancer
you know i don't even want to use the word survivor whatever the person struck with cancer
that spouse is carrying such a huge weight but no one thinks about it
that because the other one has the cancer right I don't know I just think that
there's something to that lift that you provide perspective on that I think
probably doesn't get enough analysis you know I definitely you know often
going through some of the medical stuff it did almost felt like like what do
you mean I can't stay here what do you mean like you know I you know so there
was definitely I feel like some resistance and and years of almost you know
fighting or struggling. You know, I think what those people going through it, he always did an
amazing job of recognizing me. You know, and I think we've done other events where I do think it's
there. So I don't think we needed, you know, huge recognition. I think him, you know, there was
times he got sick a few years ago and it was a really difficult, you know, time and it didn't fix it.
it's not um but i just remember him looking at me and i'm in him just saying i'm sorry like i'm
sorry that you're like having to go through this i'm sorry that you're having to deal with this
right so it didn't fix it but it was just kind of acknowledging like this stinks and and you know
i think recognizing that you got sick yeah i got really sick i um to make a long story very
short i got a um i got a probably thanks to the military
Most likely. I picked up an infection, most likely in South America's. It's not common here, which is, you know, 20 years ago.
And it stayed with you for 20 years?
It built, it was a parasite. And it built up in my small intestine until it reached a point that your small intestine, one of the things it does, it converts B12 out of food into your system. It's called intrinsic factor.
This parasite killed my body's ability to process B12. We need B12 for your central nervous system.
So at the end of 2020, I suddenly, my health took a dive.
I lost 40 pounds.
I started having issues swallowing, thinking.
I had balance issues.
I was having what we thought were heart attacks.
They couldn't find anything.
It turned out to be massive panic attacks, which is a byproduct of central nervous system,
taking a hit.
They finally, it took about six months to figure this out.
And during that time, I was a wreck.
and she was having to deal with, or not deal with me, but navigate through this.
And they didn't know what was wrong with me.
They could tell my blood was all messed up.
So, I mean, how terrifying, you know, they initially people started to talk about cancer,
but they couldn't find any cancer markers.
So, yeah, that was a tough road for about six, seven months that we navigated through that.
I mean, it's no surprise you would have rang the bell if you were a quitter,
but you've been given a couple of things that you could have quit on.
And obviously, it picked the wrong guy, all these different things.
Yeah, but having someone who has your back.
I think that's what's so critical.
This life is hard, man.
We will have ups and downs.
You're going to have successes and failures.
And, you know, that when you get married, you know, through sickness and in health till death to us part, that's how it should be.
So many people are going into relationships later.
The reason we're climbing up over 50% is I think a lot of the younger generation are going to marriage.
and they're like, hey, let's get married.
If it doesn't work out, no big deal, right?
You know, hey, we'll just head the other way.
And, yeah, I don't think it should be that way.
I mean, we were like death.
Like, we are together.
We are now a team.
It's not me, it's we.
And that is, man, all these hard times that I've been through,
she's been a critical part of that.
And I think anybody can have that also.
Well, here's the book for anybody watching on YouTube, Facebook, or Fox News.com.
It's Mission Invincible Marriage by Jason and Erica Redman.
It's on sale now.
It came out on March 11th.
That's right.
I think you should pick it up.
I think it's incredible advice for couples, for men, for everybody.
Awesome to see you.
Yeah, we like that so much.
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That was an awesome conversation for me.
It's the Will Kane Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel
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That was fun.
Jason Redman and Eric Redman.
I probably, fellas, I probably didn't do a good job, did not do a good job of explaining
who Jason is and given the background.
I guess I took for granted because I know Jason a little bit, been around him, you know, I don't know, probably been around him now half a dozen times, swam with him two or three times.
And he's been on the show and he's told his story, but I mean, Jason was, I mean, as he said, he was shot up bad, like real bad, you know, lucky to survive, took rounds to the face in the hospital forever.
two days while we're talking real quick can you google jason redmond hospital uh and there's a sign
what made jason go viral obviously he's a navy seal um and he does a navy seal swim with here but there's a
sign that he posted on the outside of his hospital door attention suffered yeah do you have that
could you read that sign yeah sure attention to all who enter here if you are coming into this room
with sorrow or to feel sorry for my wounds. Go elsewhere. The wounds I received, I got in a job
I love doing, I love, doing it for people I love, supporting the freedom of a country I deeply
love. I am incredibly tough and will make a full recovery. What is full? That is the absolute utmost
physically my body has the ability to recover. Then I will push that about 20% further through sheer
mental tenacity. This room you're about to enter is a room of fun, optimism, and intense
rapid regrowth. And if you are not prepared for that, go elsewhere. From the management.
Man, the man. I mean, dude post said on his door, you know, after, you can look up pictures
of Jason. You can see, you know, before and after what he went through. But man, what a tough
dude. And he's chosen to write a book with his wife on Invincible Marriage. I think it's a pretty
good place to go for advice if you're looking for how to build something that lasts, just like
building a successful mission, how you build a successful marriage. Anyway, I think a lot of them
and I enjoyed that conversation. All right, big news here today. This could threaten to disrupt the
entire axis of the Will Kane show. First of all, well, let's just go straight to it. The reports are
what, that he's going to sign, that he's
thinking about signing.
Sometimes I think James
is a Giants fan, but I forget that he's a Patriots fan.
So it may not totally disrupt the access of the show, but two
a days is a Giants fan.
James,
Oh, yeah, you're Packers fan.
Packers fan. Wife is a Giants fan.
This whole premise. I just think of you guys as New York.
True.
Patrick's boyfriend is thinking
about signing with the New York
Giants. James
Winston
K-I-S-S-I-N-G
in New York.
I consider it.
You'd consider it?
You'd consider it?
Would you leave
your wife for James?
Would you leave your wife for James?
Get some crabs?
Oh God, that's
took a turn.
Patrick?
Yeah, I thought the, well, yes, we're on radio, too.
No.
20%.
Do you wish you was your best friend?
Of course, yeah.
He's funny.
He's got a lot of personality.
Yesterday, Patrick managed to tie some story we were discussing
that had nothing to do with Florida State.
He managed to tie it back to Florida State somehow.
I can know what it was.
No, people cut me off, and I didn't get to tie it together, but...
Oh, he tied Brett Farv to Florida State.
He played him once in college.
There was a lot more to what I was going to say, and I was cut off, to be fair.
There was a lot more.
I'm not going to say it on.
Text it.
Well, we're not prepared for James Winston in New York.
We're not prepared for James Winston as a New York giant.
Go ahead, two days.
Well, I found some news on Aaron Rogers, if we're going there.
Okay, so here's the deal.
The reason we were discussing Brett Farrf is Brett Farr was on the Will Cain show yesterday,
and he said that Aaron Rogers should.
should, in fact, follow his footsteps from the Packers to the Jets to the Vikings.
He said, why not?
Go for it.
That's got to chap your hide two days as a Packers fan.
I swear, if he does this, I will not like him for the rest of my life.
Do you not like Brett Favre?
It's TBD still.
Man, I was listening to...
I know.
I was listening to a radio host talking about Brett Favre.
Like, children in Wisconsin are named Brett.
Like, it's serious.
It's a serious thing.
It's like 25% of children.
Brett Bear.
Because they're not good.
They were not good.
Packers were bad for what?
A decade and a half, basically, until Brett Farv comes along.
He had the magic man, Don Majowski, for a little bit.
Yeah, a little something there.
But Brett Farv comes along, get you back, and he's an absolute legend.
and he joins the hated Vikings after a pit stop with the Jets.
And the people say he did that to give the middle finger to Packers Management.
That's why he did that.
And I kind of understand that, but still, you don't do that to your fan base.
After all you went through with them, you just don't do that.
But the Packers got rid of Brett, not the other way around.
Brett didn't want to leave Green Bay.
But you've got to love the fans more than hate the management.
Deep.
So Aaron doing the same thing, to you?
Packers fans. Dude, I hope he does it. I hope he retires. I hope he's a Viking. I really do.
Well, so all the headlines right now are saying Aaron Rogers is holding the Steelers hostage right now.
That's the latest scuttlebutt. I've heard that. For money? Yeah, outrageous, outrageously selfish demands of Aaron Rogers is the headline in Pittsburgh.
Look, Aaron Rogers likes to be contrarian. He likes to be controversial. He's a bit of a
troll. I like Aaron Rogers, but I know
that he enjoys his stuff. Ultimate
troll move. Join the Vikings,
Aaron. Do it.
Would be funny. Your legacy as
a contrarian will be sealed.
And the Packers fans will get over it.
You'll still be Aaron Rogers to them when it's
all said and done, just like Brett Farf.
Well, I mean, the Jets move already
and how we played there, we don't really care
anymore. It's fine. He can go
do his thing.
I bet not.
Jefferson's fantasy value, though.
Hmm.
It's already ruined Garrett Wilson.
All right, let me go over to YouTube.
Chicken dealer says, I got eggs for the low.
Hit me up.
I thought that was funny.
Tell them to hit the show email.
I'm curious.
Black market chicken eggs.
Beverly Smith says, I'm not a Democrat or Republican, and I don't see where Trump is helping.
Hang in there, Beverly, because as James Kruger says,
It took four years of nothing to get us into this mess today.
It will take time to get us back from the prices of Trump's first term.
And Connie, little John, says, it's been 50 days.
Maybe we should let him do his job and be judgmental after.
But we can analyze it, Connie.
We can try to see where it's all headed.
And that's what we do here on The Will Kane Show.
That's going to do it for me today.
Look forward to seeing you again tomorrow, live from New York again.
Same time, same place.
See you next time.
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