Will Cain Country - The Left's New Target: Fathers (ft. Kayce Smith & The McLemore Boys)

Episode Date: June 22, 2026

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Streaming live at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page. Always here for you at your leisure on demand, in your car, at your computer, on your smart screen. Simply hit subscribe at Apple or on Spotify. Joy Reid is here to tell you. You Casey Smith, you tinfoil, Pat, you two a days, Dan, you out there in the militia that. Black America simply isn't in to the 4th of July. Watch. Because in many ways, and with apologies to my dear spicy white friends, because I know that my white brothers and sisters do love a 4th of July.

It is Independence Day. Everybody's barbecue, and it's a thing. I can promise you, black folks, we will take that day off. We will barbecue because we off. but black people that nobody black i know is is really excited about the fourth of july because it is a it is what frederick douglas said it is it is the celebration of slaveholders who freed themselves from having to pay taxes to the crown for their slave empire and that is what it is your first reaction is always to vomit but getting beyond your first reaction here's my question is it true?

Is Joy Reid right about black America's relationship to the 4th of July? I know we have a big audience of black Americans watching and listening to Will Cain country. Right now, right now. Put two of a day's Dan to work. Jump into that comment section. I want you to tell me. I want you to tell me. Not how you feel.

Yeah, I'm interested in that. I am curious how you feel whether or not you like to float your life. What I'm really curious about is the description or the analysis, the diagnosis of Black America, accurate about its relationship to the 4th of July. I will say this. What's up, Casey? How are you today? What's up, Dan? What's up, Pat?

What's up? Hi, Will. I did something really cool today, but we can get to it later. I feel like you'll appreciate it, though. We can get to after we talk about this if you want me to. No, go ahead. Go ahead. What do you got?

What did you do today? I took my three-year-old son to him. his first ever soccer practice today. And I feel as a soccer guy and a dad of two boys that play soccer that you probably don't necessarily remember that first day, but I remember it. And today was so cool. I felt like crying all morning. And so I'm very proud.

I'm a proud mom today. Yeah. What did you go to soccer superstars on the Upper West Side? Some soccer facility that's in the second floor above a bodega. they've carved out a little, did you go to a playground? You have to just stomp all over my proud parenting moment, okay? No, it was an outdoor park on the east side. Okay, you could see the water.

And it was him and three other little kids that are all three, and they had two coaches. And halfway through, he wanted to quit because he was so tired. But it's fine. Yeah, coach to player ratio. Impressive there. Two coaches for four kids? Yeah, yeah, it was nice.

I didn't know that either. I was very surprised. but I just, I had such a proud mom moment, and I felt like you were going to have some dad wisdom of teenage boys, but instead you had to make fun in New York. So I never mind. Just forget that I said. No, it wasn't me making fun of New York. It wasn't me making fun of New York.

It was that I've been there. I mean, I've been to that probably in that exact scenario. Maybe, yeah, maybe. Maybe that exact scenario. Like, living in New York City, your kid starts playing soccer. So literally, I do remember taking my kids to soccer superstars, which was like a super early thing. that you could do. It's kind of a franchise in New York, I think. That's awesome. That's fun. I will tell you, I don't remember, as a parent of older kids,

older boys, there are moments. It's like live fire hoses things at you. And you always wonder what will stay, what won't stay. And that doesn't stick. I don't remember the first practice. You know, I don't, I don't remember that moment. I have other moments that I don't think I'll ever forget. Some of them because they're kind of glory-filled and some because they're not. But it's kind of interesting. You know, Pat's got 10 kids. It's probably harder to hang on to these moments. But like, yeah, I mean, I have this memory of one of my sons, or both my sons, but playing this football league. Futsal is like soccer, but on a basketball court with a little bit smaller ball, a little bit heavier, small-sided, five-on-five. I love it. I like it better than

soccer. And I just remember this one game where I asked my son to do this one thing defensively, which was, you know, basically like sacrifice himself for the team over and over and over. And he did. I just remember how red-faced he was at the end. We won, we won the championship. I was the coach. I was the dad coach of that one. But you just have these things that stick in your head. I hope today's one of those for you. Well, no, I'm saying there's the way that you remember that, I mean, this was my first and like organized sports. He's three. This is obviously a very new thing.

The one thing that I am very concerned about is that I am not going to be a good sports parent. Like even just like when he wasn't running like the exact way the coach when I was like, you got to listen to the coach, baby, you got to listen. I was like Casey, he's three. He's three. So I, that's what I'm a little bit concerned about. But he had a good time.

So I just, I felt like it was a very proud mom moment. That's not asked to show up. test to not show. Yeah, no, I just, I, as a parent, I'm going to fight the other parents. I already know I'm going to. Nah, well, no, I don't know about that. But as a parent, like, who is guilty of treating their boys all too often as self-improvement projects, a constant stream of sermons and lessons.

I will just tell you, like, don't do that. I mean, you can do it some. You should. You got to be careful, though. Especially at that age, like, man, just have fun. I know that sounds like modern day participation award stuff. It's not. It's like exactly the point of sports to have fun.

The best, I don't know if soccer's going to be his sport. I'm sure he's going to try a bunch of sports. The best thing I ever did for my second son, though, and I think this works for all sports, is I bought him one of those little, because I'd already been through with my older son a little bit, size one soccer balls, which are the really, really small ones, right? They're like, yay big. Yeah, that's the one he has. Yeah, okay, probably something like that, yeah.

And I would walk him. preschool in New York. I'd walk him to, we lived like, oh, 10 blocks from the preschool. And he would dribble it on the way to, like at that age, like three, four years on the way to school every day. I'd walk him to school. And it's hard because it's concrete, you know, and there's pedestrians walking in your way and you got to keep it out of the street. And that was my rule. I was like, just dude, you can't let it go on the street.

Watch out for the strangers, you know. And it forces him to start, like, actually manipulating the ball in terms. traffic, but he's having fun as he's walking to school. It was a good little, good little thing. He has that, yeah, he has, he's more of a basketball fan right now. He's playing soccer because that's what his little friends are doing, and it's easier. Like you put the youngest, I think, in soccer, but he likes to dribble a basketball on the street, but I'm going to have to see, these are things I'm excited to do.

That's good, too. Yeah, he's big basketball guy. It's like skill acquisition. You make boring things fun by incorporating skill acquisition into it. Instead of going to the park and be like, now we're working on your skills. You know what I'm saying? and criticizing and coaching. You make skill acquisition fun.

It's boring to walk to school. Now it's fun. Now it's fun. Well, that's what we're learning to not hit people on the side of the road in our scooter. Like when you're crossing the street, there are people also crossing the street

don't hit them with your scooter. That's what we're working on. But listen, I am excited because now we're officially in the organized sports portion of life that'll go on for hopefully ever. But he's three. And on the plus side line, Like, he's going to be an awesome, you know, like, scooter rider around New York at age 27.

You know, he's going to be a weave. You see those guys. Please don't be one of those. He's going to be a weave in and out of traffic. You know, super aggressive. I like the guys in full suits that just ride those scooters. They look ridiculous. Yeah, no, no.

He's, that is not the plan for him. He's just, you know, he's three. He's excited. But you know this. You had kids in the city. His scooter skills. I know what he's got. He's got one of those three-wheeled scooters where it's two up front, you know, and the double wheel is right

close together in the back. I remember that scooter. Maybe he's sophisticated. He's already on a... Maybe he's sophisticated and he's already on a razor. I mean, that's big time when you jump up to the razor scooter. But, you know, there's that skill, the scooter skill, here's how that goes. Okay, I'm going to explain that to you.

He has it already, well. He's advanced. He's an advanced scooter skill guy. Okay. He is either going to translate that into, and this was part of my vision, skateboarding. He's going to be a good skateboarder or something. And I wanted my kid to be able to do that because I was... I wanted balance.

Balance is good for sports, right? And I also think, like, going surfing is cool. So skateboarding was a path to surfing. Honestly, Herschel Walker did ballet. I know. Get real. Like, absolutely. Or he is going to be better than most college kids.

In every college town, the warning is don't ride the lime scooters at 2 a.m. when you're drunk or you're going to end up with no front teeth. Like, we've already warned my son. My son is head off to college next year. And my wife, so I said it, do not ride those scooters at the end of a night. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah. Like they're in every college town.

And she's right. There's a ton of kids that lose their front teeth. They're all over Austin, by the way. Like, well, after college, I went to go visit my sister. And we were just like, well, we can just jump on these scooters. They're just, like, abandoned on the side of the road. And you can just go pick one up and ride it. I think it's bizarre.

That's right. But, I mean, in college, it would have a problem. That's where my son's headed. Yeah. Austin, exactly. And then, or your son's going to make one hell of a. I mean, the tips are going to be amazing on Uber Eats. because of the scooter?

I'm just saying your skill acquisition. You're on your way. Can you imagine how many deliveries he can make in an hour? You know what? The skill right now is me not having to carry him when he gets tired because we don't do strollers anymore. You know how it is in the city. Like they want to walk. He wants to be independent. But then we'll be, you know, seven blocks from home and it's 95 degrees out.

And his little 40-pound ass wants me to carry him all the way home, which I will do. But on a scooter, I can just make him. write it. That's what I'm happy about. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I remember those days. I remember them very well. Okay. I'm not going to put Casey in this awkward position. Unless you want. You got comments? Yeah. People are saying I've never heard that from any of my black friends. It's kind of the consensus in all of the chats that's going on right now. So it doesn't seem. You have, really. Have you not? I have not. I have not either. That's the one. I can say like I have

not heard that. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I just have not heard that. Pat has, Pat serves as a focus group to the internet and probably about a two block square radius around his home in Jacksonville. So in that world, Pat, a very in touch world of where you are with people. Had you heard this before? No. Mm. Hmm. Okay. Okay. Now, I can't remember where I heard it. Was it ESPN that people,

used to talk about this a little bit? Or was it just 2020? Like, where people were saying, like, Fourth of July doesn't mean the same thing to us as it does to you. You know, after the Carmelo Anthony deal and the way so many people have reacted, have you guys seen the Austin Bop trend? I don't know how big it is, but have you guys seen it? No. Really?

No. Oh, God. It's awful. I'm going to have Jeff Metcalf, Austin Metcalfe's fault. and Will Kane show today. The Austin Bop is like a TikTok dance that a lot of black kids are doing that is, you know, Panama being stabbing someone. It's like the Charlie Kirk ones.

Yeah, but more of a dance maybe than the Charlie Kirk ones. The Charlie Kirk ones, you just see people at protest doing that stuff. They turn this into like a dance. That's why it's called the Bop, I guess. I don't know how many people are doing it. It's just horrific. That's awful. Yeah, but I asked this question after the murder of

of Austin Metcalf, like, you know, it's a clear black and white justice issue in terms of was it or was it not self-defense. And yet so much of black America seemed to be convinced that was a legitimate use of force in self-defense, which is totally contra the law and the facts. And so, you know, I wonder, is Joy Reid saying something that I don't know about that is actually true? And if it is, look, here's the hard part about that conversation. Like, yeah, black America's relationship with America throughout half of this. country's history is going to be complicated. But what America stands for and therefore what the Fourth of July represents is a rallying cry, a banner under which we can all participate.

It's the fulfillment of the promise that was written into the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States. And if you reject that premise, if you reject that promise, you reject the concept of America. Now you got a whole different thing going. Like if Joy Reid, what do you want then? If you reject the Fourth of July, you reject America. If you You reject America. What do you want? That's the obvious question for Joy Reid. I mean, I do understand the argument just in terms of just the simple semantics of it,

just saying that, you know, they don't, the start of the country, they don't feel like as much of a part of it as, you know, white people would. But it's, you know, got to love our country. Got to love Fourth of July. But it's 2026. I know. Frederick Douglass wrote that a long time ago. It's 2026.

Yeah. And that means there's advancement on the fulfillment of that promise of the United States of America. Joe Rogan talked about how surreal it was to sit next to Donald Trump as he was announcing UFC Freedom 250. Listen. I was honestly really nervous, Joe. I was like, dude, there's like, just again being around everybody and something could happen, the drones that could, you know, that they stopped. Like, again, I wasn't knowing what to expect and then tell. after the fight, because again, we couldn't take it in.

It was a beautiful thing. And Justin, I was like, if I get taken out in the middle of the cage, how legendary would that be? I said to Trump, I go, I hope we don't die in a terrorist attack. I said to Trump, I hope we don't die in a terrorist attack. He goes, we got to go somehow. I go, what the fuck? Everyone will remember it for the rest of an eternity?

Oh, Jesus. Oh, man. Well, everybody's focused on, everyone's focused on that last part. Trump's seemingly Zen stoicism. We got to go somehow. But how about Gaichi saying, you know, or Gaichi's trainer saying I was nervous? I was there, Casey.

I went. I don't know if they knew something I didn't. Did the fighters know about it? I don't think they did. I don't think that's, there's no way. I don't think. I mean, I know when you were out last week and I guest host said I talked to Rachel Campo stuffy about it, she said she had no idea either because that's,

the day that I was guest hosting is when we found out about it. And I just think it's crazy that so many people would know, but nobody in the event would have any idea because that's how good the protection was. So how would the fighters have had any idea? Yeah. So maybe they were just saying they were nervous because of the spectacle at all that it's logical. It could be a target. I think, well, I know.

I don't have great situational awareness. I am not a person that lives in fear. I don't. You live in a rainbow world. I live in what? Like, just, you know, things are great. In my head. Yeah, yeah, in your head.

Yeah, you don't worry. But that's the way. But what's the opposite? What's the alternative? He goes in scared everything because that would suck. It's just like hyper aware of your surroundings of the people that could be being shifty around you, I think. Let's take quick break, but continue this conversation with Marshall's Casey Smith

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He said he was from Columbia. He gave me his whole spiel. the two things that like raised my antennas were the sales pitch was in a big gray area like general pest control like mosquitoes spider webs like this like real generalized pest control but he's like we're really good i'll do this for 29 dollars it's normally 300 but i'm going to do it for just so you can see how good the service is but he wouldn't take no for an answer either it was a hard sales pitch when it was over i said i ultimately i got it i just said write your number down here call you if I need you. My wife's like, you know, Will, those dudes are case, they case the house. That's what they do. Like, it's a thing. Yeah. They come to the house. They act like they're cleaning around the house. They case it. And they come back. And, you know, even though my head was like, this isn't completely right, it didn't go all the way. My friend who's

with me goes, dude, I answer the door with a gun in my hand. And I'm like, well, I don't. Were you thinking about letting him in? Will, were you going to let the man in? No, no, no. No, I wasn't going to let him in, but I wasn't the whole time going. Is he about to attack? How long did you let him stand there? How long did you let him talk to you? That would have been my first thought. It's like he's casing the house.

It went on, how about this? It went on for sure more than five, probably closer to 10, right? Like, if you think about that at your door, like, that's a long time. I should have gotten rid of him quickly. Right? And I, listen, I admire that if you do live in a world where you're, Dan just called it Rainbow World or Rainbow Land, whatever he said, but you can't let a man

stand at the front door for 10 minutes asking to kill the mosquitoes that don't exist in your house. I'm just so confused. There's a guy walking around the back while he's talking to you, just checking out the back entrance. Have you not seen home alone? Yes, exactly. We were taught that as a young, as young

children that that's what they're doing. They're casing the house. Yeah. I don't live, and I'm not telling you I'm right, I don't live like in a heightened sense of protection thought. Now, I do have two Dobermans who will... That's right. I do have that. And that's really helpful. That's not why I have them, but I have them. And so if that's your plan, good luck.

So, Will, this is a question, though, for you at the White House, because, I mean, everybody who was there has talked about how amazing an event it is. And also, all the important people were there in one place. So I don't like to live in fear either, but was there a any part of you that thought if something was going to happen, this would be the type of event that they would go after? Totally. No, it didn't. It did not. That's what I'm saying. That's where I was going. I did not spend one second concerned about security when I was there. That is, honestly, that's so admirable of you because there would be at least like some sort of intuition in my head that would be like, I feel very safe. There's a ton of, you know, military

secret service, police, all that there, and if someone was wanting to inflict harm and cause terror and fear, it would be at this event at the White House. Well, J.D. Vance was in this room here, and he said it was the most safe podcast studio in the world. But I'm sitting there freaking out, like, this is a tart.

Someone would come after him, you know what I mean? Like, I would be sitting here and freak me out. Why did he say it's the most safe podcast studio in the world? Because he had a million secret service and there was just like dudes with armed machine guns behind us. There's like 15 of them. Yeah, but there's no window there either. Right.

Yeah. You're good. So Will, whenever the news came out, whenever the news came out, were you just shocked then? No. I thought I was normal, but y'all are making me feel not normal.

I don't know. I don't. I don't. No, I'm definitely not like Dan. I wouldn't have been worried with the vice president in here because I would have felt very safe that the Secret Service was here. But I'm just saying I would have had, there would have been a thought that crossed through my head at some point going to America 250 that if somebody wanted to do something to harm people, this would be a bigger event for that to be a plan for. I've seen, you know. I don't think like this.

And I think people could say, well, you're privileged because you've never had anything happened. But you guys know, I have had something happen. I've had a break-in at my house. You know, with one of my sons, I have told that story, right? With one of my sons alone at home. It was a bad deal. But I think statistics override with me. Like, the odds are so low.

Like, that's kind of, I think, what's in my head. I'm not totally unprepared. I'm armed. Not right now. I'm armed in my house In a lot of places that I'm I am like I am prepared in that way But I don't really

I'm not ready to I'm not waiting for it Like I'm not like I have home alone traps Around my entire place Just ready to go I don't know why I just don't think about it All that much

Maybe is that a Texas thing Because you guys are armed Like I just I didn't grow up around anyone That was just armed like that So we don't think that way I think it's a New York thing where you're not allowed to have it. I wasn't that scared in New York.

I was aware walking down the street. And certainly in certain neighborhoods, I was aware, you know, like who's standing close to me, that kind of thing. You know what I mean? Like, what corner looks sketchy? You know, that exists in New York,

especially, look, let's be blunt. Like, my sons went to school in Harlem, and it gets sketchier. There are corners where you're like, don't walk on that corner. Or don't be alone right now. My wife especially, she'd pick them up from practice late in Harlem. It's dark and there's long blocks of stretches of block where it's dark and there's nobody on that.

And you've got to have some real heightened situational awareness on that stuff. But New York is weird because most of the time you're pretty close to traffic and things and people. Like it's not that often. I always felt like in New York, if somebody was going to do something bad, how are they going to get away with it? There's too many people right there to see it go down. They just don't care. Know what I mean? Well, I agree with you, Will, because so I live in Midtown and people are always like, why do you live in Midtown with a toddler?

Now, Grant, and I understand, you know, we have things in our building that helps out, whatever. But, like, I always think I feel much safer with all of those people around because I'm a mom with a three-year-old walking around. And if somebody's going to do something, there are going to be tons of people around that would thwart that, I guess. But I, the heightens. No, I didn't think that, Casey. You didn't. I don't think that. No, because people have you, are you familiar with the story out of Harlem?

what was the name of the story? Y'all remember that? It's in the 70s. The name is famous where Kitty, Kitty something or another. A lady was either raped or killed on the streets, and she was screaming out for a long time. And nobody came to her aid, even though, like, the after analysis was like literally a hundred or more people heard it going down. And nobody did anything. Nobody even called the cops because everybody assumed somebody else was going to. That's crazy. You know what I mean? And that's a sociological effect of some kind of large crowds. No, I was more thinking about like the rationality of the criminal. Like if I do this right now, there's just no prospect of getting away with it. There's too many witnesses, too many cameras,

too much of everything in New York. Yeah. And maybe this is a little bit of a privilege situation because I do now granted I'm not out at 2 a.m. with my son. I'm not out at 2 a.m. by myself anymore. That is one thing. The heightened sense of awareness in New York got much better once I had him. But it's just like to me at 3 p.m. in the middle of Midtown, I don't feel unsafe because there are so many people around. I just feel like this is not going to happen to me. Now, that's usually famous last words. I get that.

But I do think it is different than walking by yourself at night in other places where there aren't hundreds of people around you. That's called the bystander effect, Kitty Genovese in 1964. Yeah. It's a psychological. crime effect now. The bystander effect. You brought up J.D. Vance. J.D. Vance in Kalshi odds now is, he was number one before.

I don't know. Patrick, he was already number one, wasn't he? People are making note. He has taken a jump up, and it seems to coincide with his book tour, where he's done really well. He did really well on the view. He did well in other venues as well. and it's led to at least a little bit of a spike.

He's 19%. Marco Rubio, 16%. Gavin Newsom, 14%. I think he went down a little bit behind Rubio recently. And I think that's why this recent media campaign helped him get back up there, if I recall it correctly. It'll be interesting because this Iran deal has so much to do with how he's going to be perceived publicly. But he's got, I've always said he's got huge name recognition advantage. Huge.

Being vice president, huge. I actually talked about this with some of my friends this weekend. I was going to do it. Shoot, I forgot to do it. We were at a restaurant, and I said, if I walk up to that table right there, what are the odds that table can tell me the Secretary of State's name? Like if I said, name the Secretary of State, and this was a normal table of people, right? I don't think they would have gotten it?

They know who he is. They don't know who he is. They don't know what his job is, I bet. I'd say third. So if I say, name the Secretary of State. but what if I said what is Marco Rubio's job? I bet same.

Would they be able to say it then? I think it doesn't cross. Yeah, yeah. I feel like they would know his name and maybe even like what he looks like without being able to do like the title and then vice versa. Yeah.

But with Casey, if you went into the offices of Barstool and you did one of those videos that you guys do, like the little quiz videos, which I really like, by the way. She doesn't. She doesn't do him

because she doesn't go into the office. No, she hates quizzes. No, hold on. Okay, everybody has misinformation here. First of all, when I'm in Chicago in the office, I do do them. And I don't like trivia. I'm okay with quizzes. Oh, trivia.

I don't do trivia. I like the ones where they ask random questions in the office, and I'm way more of a participant during football season. That's trivia. No, it's different. Is it chaps? Like, when we did that, the trivia that Patrick did for us on the podcast, however long ago that was when Dan was sick,

and I put on the spot, you have to name what, like 20 teams or whatever, that's different than just like, here's one question. If you get it wrong, you get to just like walk off and go do your job. That's different to me. All right. Okay, Casey. No, don't do this to me. Don't do it.

Is it chaps? Is it chaps that does it? Yes. He does those things. If you went into the barstall offices and you said, name the vice president, would people, what would be the success rate? Vice president, I think, would be very high right now because I do think that Trump and J.D. Vance are talked about so often right now.

Like, I don't think, if somebody didn't get J.D. Vance, I would be, I would just absolutely think that they should be kicked off the planet. From Barstool. I tell you, some of those, some of those Barstool quizzes, and I, maybe it's a female thing, and I'm not being sexist. I do think that women generally do not pay attention to geography in some ways. Yeah. But, like, when you say, when the question is something about.

a country and they say Africa, I'm like, dude, I would be like, please don't post that. You see what I'm saying? Like the lack of ability to distinguish, the lack of ability distinguish between a country and a continent is like really, really basically. So I agree with you. I'm also really bad at geography. Now, I know the difference between countries and continents or even sometimes when they ask like cities and people name states. I will say that I do think the level of knowledge of just everyday life of knowing who are current vice president is and geography. And I can only speak for the barso offices. I do believe the success rate would be much higher. Although I say that and it would

if somebody said they had no idea who the vice president was, I guess I probably would just be like, well, that's Barstall for you. But I'd hope they would. Okay. Casey, who is the secretary of war? Pete Heggseth. Nice. Okay. Who, who is the secretary of war? Pete Hegseth Nice Okay Who is You have guests outside

By the way So you can't sit here And grill me You have guests coming into your podcast studio right now So don't look at her trying to bail out Look at her trying to bail out I am absolutely

See that because this is why And so I've told Patrick this I don't care I don't want to hear your story I don't want to hear your story I don't want to play your trivia I don't want to play your trivia So that's interesting

So we're at a stalemate here Who is the Treasury Secretary? Oh. Appears on the Wilcan show a lot, a few times. It's hard. Once. He's appeared on the, I'm not going to pretend and sit here that I'm going to come up with this answer. I don't know.

He wears glasses. That doesn't help. That's going to help. Dan, wait a minute. The fact that Dan said he appears on the show a lot makes me question when not Dan knows the answer. Dan, who is the Treasury of Secretary? Mr. Scott Besson. Yes.

He's only been on the show once? I thought it was twice. Now, this person appeared on the show a lot. Who is the Department of Homeland Security Secretary? DHS Secretary. I know this answer. I know I know this answer. And this is why I'm saying being put on the spot is the worst.

Amindigo, you said this was how you liked to do it one at a time. You asked me three questions. I said one. Chaps asks one question. And then when you get it wrong, you get to walk away. You don't get sat here and grilled in front of an audience that clearly knows. And they're going to be able to. like never have this girl back on the show. She doesn't know anything. But guess what? As soon as I go

sit outside when your guests come in, I'm going to remember it and I'm going to interrupt you. He used to a MMA fight. He has two first names. He has two first names. In one name. He's from the dreaded state of Oklahoma. Just tell, just tell me. Mark Wayne Mullen. That's okay, Casey. I actually don't think I, I, whatever the audience is saying right now. You're normal, Casey. Yes, I don't think the, I actually think even the audience who's listening who's politically interested, I don't know what they would bat. Do you think they'd bat real high? I wouldn't know if I didn't work here. Patrick?

I think that's about right. Like my daughter and I play this game where it's like, you know, how many people in a target at a 20 if you asked. Okay. All right, let's do this. Let's do this. We're not done. We're not done. But I'm not going to do it to Casey. I'm not going to do it to you, Casey. Don't ask me about Notre Dame.

I'm going to do it to the Mac. Yeah, let's just start asking sports questions and let them sink or swim. Who's the head coach of Notre Dame? Martin Freeman. Yeah. Martin Short. Casey, who's the head coach of the Dallas Mavericks? Oh, it's Dusty May. He just got hired today. As of about one hour ago. Yeah. Yes, correct. Yeah. Are you excited about that, by the way? I don't know. I never know what to make of college coaches that go into professional sports, either the NFL or the NBA. It's a total crapshoot. think that the college sports is more like pros than it ever has been in the past. They're managing budgets, money, personalities, transfers.

It's never been more like pro sports. So is he a good actual coach, tactician? I don't know. But let's see. Let's do this real quick. Brad Stevens, success. Billy Donovan? Yeah, I think you'd say Billy Donovan.

And he hasn't won the NBA title or anything like that. But yeah, I'd say Billy Donovan's a success. John B-line, the last Michigan coach who left for the Cavs? not a success. So, you know, I remember back to day, Jerry Tarkhanian. I think he's going to be, I think he's going to be, I think, because also because what you just said, you know, a decade ago having to deal with budgets and contracts and all that stuff, like these guys don't want to do it and vice versa. Now it's like, it's interchangeable. But I mean, the way he took this Michigan team, I don't know. I'm, I would be a very excited

Dallas Mavericks fan. I'm telling my dad that. Back in the day, like, I don't think Bobby Knight would have been a good fit in the pros. No, I completely agree with that. kids back in the day. But now it's different. Right. You're dealing with professionals at the collegiate level because that's what they are with all the NIL and transfer portal and all that. So yeah, you're getting bigger egos when you go to the professional level. But yeah, I think he's going to be great. Coming up, the hosts of grilling across America on Fox Nation, the McLemore boys, join me, Tim Fulpat, Two-Aid's Dan and Casey Smith on Wilcane Country.

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Father's Day was yesterday. I actually had a great Father's Day. I added a, uh, uh, uh, this is going to sound the way I said. My wife had to leave town halfway through Father's Day. But I texted my sons. They were in the house with me. I texted my sons and said, here's all I want. Don't be in your room playing video games. Don't be in the game room. Just come sit with me. I'll have the World Cup games on. Just sit with me. Do whatever you want. We just have to be in the same room. And then they did. And one thing, you know, that means other things happen. Next thing, you know, we're at a golf simulator, the three of us playing, then we're getting dinner together. Then we watched Fight Club together because one thing led to another just being in the same proximity.

They actually, by the way, two a day stand, Tim Foylap, they loved Fight Club. My younger son's really, I told you, it's really into catching up on movies that are on all-time lists and Fight Club's been on there. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember, I love Fight Club. For me, it didn't hold up like I wanted it to. It was not, I was like, man, this was way better in my mind. but they loved it. They thought it was, I mean,

one of the best movies they'd ever seen. I think it's kind of like American Psycho a little bit. It's like one of those movies where there's so many, like, there's so many great scenes,

but like the totality of it maybe isn't as good as you remember it to be? Yeah, even what the direction and the stylized production of it that seemed so cool back then didn't seem,

it felt herky jerky to me a little bit now. But, since it's Father's Day, the New York Times had, I think the way this goes is about three articles up about Father's Day. And they were like this. Guest essay. To my daughter, my gender was never complicated. It is a op-ed about a trans dad.

And then it had these comics, comic strips in it all like, I don't know. Here's one of them. the kids saying to the quote unquote dad, how long did you have your breasts for, dad? That's the legit thing they wrote. Another one is two kids playing on the playground, and it says, you can't grow a beard, you're a girl.

And then the girl says, my dad did, he was a girl. This is the New York Times on Father's Day. I don't think there was a single thing about like, you know, men and fathers, it was all about this new version of masculinity and fatherhood, I guess, according to the New York Times. Wasn't it, Patrick, all of their art? Like, they did three and they were all. One was trans. One was what? Yeah. An absentee father. Alex. Alex Berenson said there were four op-ed articles, and none of them were written by actual fathers, Matt, male fathers.

Here it is. Alex Barron said, can't make this up. New York Times, opinion, has four recent pieces about fatherhood and masculinity with six authors. Three women, a trans man, and then two childless men. Not one father. The cultural elite contempt for dads must run so deep we don't even get to speak for ourselves. That's Alex Barence and how the New York Times covers Father's Day. Joining us now, one of those trans fathers who wrote that article in the New York Times, John McClamore is with his son.

Wow. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of fatherhood, I'm going to eat in front of you now, Will. This is prime beef, which is what you're supposed to do when you have a good father in your life, like my apparent trans dad over here. But this is some beef. I'm going to eat in front of you now, Will. Yeah. I hope you are so jealous, Will Kane. Texas treating you well, buddy. Oh, it's incredible. Maclemore, Big John, and John Boy, John too, with us here, the host of Grilling Across America on Fox Nation, also known as the McElmore Boys, are with it.

I'm enjoying Texas, John, and so are all the Japanese. Oh, yeah. And the Dutch. And you know what they're loving about Texas boys? What's that? I think the biggest hit, I think the biggest hit might just be Texas Brisket. I'm telling you, they are raving. And last night, the Argentines, the Argentines, the Argentines, they're in town.

They're in town because Messi plays, I think it's tomorrow here in Dallas. And they took over again. It's so awesome to see these countries just take over the streets. But I saw videos of them taking a look at our big smokers and how we do meat. And the Argentines know how to do beef. I was going to say, we got to figure this out. A good friend of ours, Al Fergoni, is massive, massive. influencer. He's from

Argentina. Argentina? He's Argentina. I don't know. He's from Argentina. He is Argentinian and he does open fire grilling. Good friend of ours, they know how to cook food. But it's normally open pit, right? So when you have all these countries coming here and they see

Texas barbecue, I know, Georgia for some reason, we're from Georgia. We're like seventh on the list. Yeah, we're known for shrimp. We're known for Boston butt and ribs. But, hey, we do a mean brisket. And I'm going to tell everybody that's traveling all over the world for the World Cup, this new ranch dressing thing is such a big hit.

We're going to challenge everybody. If you're going to do a brisket, you've got to get you some comeback sauce. Far better than ranch dressing on a brisket. It is Duke's mayonnaise, red wine vinegar, garlic. Salt pepper and garlic. And kosher salt, black pepper. That is the best. thing you will ever dredge

a steak or a brisket into. We're selfishly trying to plug our sauce because we just went on pre-sell yesterday. White and blue right there. We're hoping that every other country starts buying it up and we sell out. Come back sauce. You know why they call it Come back? Cause you come back? Because you come back from a morning.

Hey, I want to say something, Mr. No, no, no, wait, wait, wait, before you transition, I'm in charge of the flow of this conversation. I don't know what memo was, I don't know what memo was issued ahead of your appearance. But you bring up ranch. Let's go down this path for a minute.

Okay. Yes. Among the things that foreigners are loving is ranch. Yes. And the people are making jokes about them trying to take it home. And this is a tweet. The TSA oversized, is this real? Do you think, guys?

The TSA oversized liquid bins before my flights. The Europeans have gone crazy for ranch. They're trying to take it home. And people are saying to the Europeans, you got to check it. You can't carry it on. You got to check the ranch. I ask the boys this. All right.

Casey, I want you to weigh into. I'm not big on ranch. I think this ranch stuff is way overdone. I don't, I will grant you in high school. I was like everybody else, I wanted to dip my domino's pizza in ranch. I don't want anything to do with ranch anymore. I don't want on a salad. I don't want it on meat.

I don't want it on pizza. I think ranch is overrated. You're ranched out. I'm a blue cheese guy. I'm a ranch guy, but I tell you what I like in my ranch is hot sauce. Me too. That is some good combination. I knew I like Casey.

Yeah, we do a mean ranch hot sauce buffalo turkey. Oh, my God. I'm not using ranch just for a salad like it's supposed to. You put like some Franks Redhaud or Chalula. So you take the ranch dry powder and you blend it with hot water and you create this ranch marinade and you inject the turkey with this ranch marinade and then you deep fry it. And then you take some ranch and hot sauce combined and you drizzle it over the top of that deep fried turkey. So I'm probably a ranch person. on a pizza or a salad, but I'm telling you, the comeback sauce on a briskid is way better.

I'm a blue cheese fan, but that right there is taking over our life. Yeah. So you could dip that, dip anything in that. I'm telling you guys, a millennial. Like, ranches is like the number one condiment, but I do agree with them. There are other applications. It depends on what application it is. Like, a comeback sauce for brisket would be way better than a rink.

Well, I think, I agree. but ranch is historically popular, and it's, what, $2.50 at the grocery store? So it's cheaper. Well, but what they're doing on the TSA is people are going through. Yeah, they're trying to go through TSA with a hundred four-ounce bottles. Yeah. Yeah. It's all.

It'll last them a little while. So here's what I think happened. First of all, I'm with you, John Boy. I like, if I'm eating wings, I'd rather have blue cheese than ranch, right? Thank you. And then if I'm eating a salad. I don't want ranch, it overpowers everything. So there's a whole bunch of salad dressings I pick over rain.

That's why people do it. They don't like salads. So they put ranch on it. But there's so many other good salad dressings. Yeah. And then if you're doing a meat product. Yep. Okay.

And we're giving comeback sauce first place. We're going to put it over here. So we know where comeback sauce is. But here's what I think happened. I think that, you know, cane sauce and chick filet sauce, the reddish, the reddish, pinkish sauce that exploded onto the scene, really was it Chick-fil-A that probably did it, and then everybody came out with their version like cane sauce.

That, to me, took the place of ranch, where everybody was putting it on anything. And that's way better than ranch. I like that better on chicken as well. Well, you make a good, well, you brought up meat, right? And if you, you know this, you're a Texas guy. If you cook meat properly, you're not supposed to use sauce. Right.

But when you're selling a sauce, right. When you're selling a sauce. Yeah. No. Eat our sauce, but. Only our sauce. Yeah. How do you transition that one?

I mean, is not meat without the McLemort Boys comeback sauce. Oh my God, shut up. You can get it at these maclmore boys. I come. But when you cook meat properly, you don't have to use, you're not supposed to use sauce. That's supposed to be a compliment, not a takeover. Yeah.

Correct. And that's the Texas differentiator. I honestly believe. Like, in other states, even clueling. including Kansas City and St. Louis and then the Carolinas. Sauce is such a bigger part of barbecue, and it's just not. I mean, it's always on the table here, and it's an option for you if you want it. But I don't want it.

If I go for the sauce, that means the meat's too dry. That's basically what that means. I was going to say, well, especially like if you're doing, that's why like sauce on pulled pork sandwiches is pretty popular because pull pork sandwiches, traditionally in restaurants, they sit for just a hot second, gets a little dry, so they can cut through it with a vinegar-based sauce, right? you know, an Alabama white sauce, which is kind of what that comeback sauce is meant to be a compliment to, you know, whatever you're dipping it on or putting it on.

It's not supposed to be a takeover. I think, I don't know. I'm with you, Will. I don't know that I get the whole ranch obsession, but there's been so many things, I think, throughout the World Cup, that I think we become numb, whether it's Waffle House or Buckees or ranch that we're, I think Americans are probably a little spoiled to a degree because we're just numb to it. And these people are coming in, they're like, America is wild. America is crazy.

They have all these beautiful things. And we probably don't appreciate them like we should. So I have a barbecue question. By the way, is Alabama White Light Comeback Sauce? That's a newer thing in my life, Alabama White Sauce. Alabama White Sauce is more of just a kind of a mayonnaise-based barbecue sauce. And here's the thing about barbecue is we can say that. And then somebody that lives in Mississippi is going to be like, no, it's not.

Like, it's subjective. You know, barbecue has a little bit of subjectivity to it, depending on where you grew up and your influences and stuff. But traditionally, you know, Alabama white sauce is, it just kind of came from that area, but it's a mayo-based white sauce. It can kind of be mixed with anything. The whole thing with...

The minute ago, you said, go ahead, Casey. No, I was going to ask that I understand. I've heard this argument my whole life growing up in Texas that if the meat is good enough, you don't need sauce. I have to put sauce on everything, even if I think it's delicious. But why is it when you go to? to a really nice steakhouse, they offer you four different sauces if that's the case. Because if they really think that their meat's not good enough and you're going to use the

sauce, then why is that an argument? I think that's, I personally think that depends on the steakhouse. Okay. Because I've been to some places that don't necessarily. You can ask for it. Honestly, I probably believe that's a little bit of a cultural thing. I think America has just become accustomed to asking for sauce. I don't think that's a.

Yeah. You know what I mean? I'll eat my steak and brisket. and ribs and pork without sauce, and then I'll use my sauce on my French fries. How about that? That makes no sense. It makes sense.

It makes sense. See? I don't want my steak covered in that, you know, black peppercorn, whatever, all that stuff. I don't want that sauce on my steak. I tell you, the best steak is when you cook the steak so perfect, you don't need a sauce. And we're actually putting butter powder in our seasoning. So you get that blend of the salt, the pepper, the garlic, a little bit of parsley, and the butter powder melts into it. So when you smoke and reverse sear a steak, it's great for the crowds.

You can cook it to the perfect temperature. You get that crust on the outside. You don't need any sauce. But you can put a little bit on there. But I agree with all of y'all. If you are going to put something on there, it's not because the steak's not good. you just want to compliment the steak. And if I could say this for Casey, right,

sauce is not a bad thing, right? What a lot of, whether it's catering, restaurants, or even sometimes what we do, and this is maybe just real, is when we do like public events, the hardest, the scary thing when we do public events, because we're not caterers, we try to specialize in small VIP crowds

or real intimate settings to where we can control the meat, and I want to bring it off hot. I don't want to serve something and sit in a pan and it dry out or, you know, get lukewarm, we want to serve it hot, so that experience is really nice. What you can do, and what a lot of people will do, is you kind of help hide some of that sometimes.

So if it does sit for a minute, the sauce helps cover, you know, if something sits for a bed. So that's a little technical bit. John Boy, let's do this really quickly. You said Georgia, we're probably seventh. Okay, fine then. Fine, give me top five. In order. Georgia, number one.

Georgia. You just said you're seventh. Alabama. I was paraphrasing for the, I think. What barbecue, though? What we've got to be specific. If we're going to rate a state. Are we talking about food or are we talking about football?

Oh, or baseball. You know what we're talking about. Or baseball. Sorry. Sorry, Will. Yeah. I purposely did not text you after both of those games, just to add a respect for you. But.

took down Texas, yes, in the College of World Series. All right, so real quick. Texas comes in number one, number one. I think in totality, yes, there's, from a, if you're looking at it objectively, it's hard to compete with Texas. It's got the best reputation. I think it's got the best wide range. For brisket. Overall barbecue, I personally think.

I think Kansas City's overrated. Don't hate me, Patrick Mahomes and whoever. Number two, I personally, I'm going to sound biased, I personally think Georgia gives a better run for people's money. There's a lot of great restaurants. There's a lot of fantastic, well-known pit masters from the state of Georgia. Yes, they are. I mean... Like you guys.

Yeah. Yeah, like us. Dad, what's your two, three and four if you had to say? I'm going to put in the top three, I am going to put Texas, Georgia, and Kansas City might be overrated, but it is very well-known. They do have some great restaurants. There's a lot of pitmasters that come out of there, a lot of competitions. Believe it or not, I think Alabama, They've got some good barbecue.

They had the best sausage in the country right there in Alabama, which can't have a barbecue without sausage. I bet people forget about Oklahoma. I bet there's some good, I know some fantastic pitmasters that come out of Oklahoma. I can tell you where it's not. California. Hey, I think New York has some good pitmasters. I know a handful of guys that live up in this area.

Brooklyn, Brooklyn's going for their barbecue. Yeah, they are. So, you know, I think it's subjective, man. I think taste is subjective. We still haven't getting the fifth state. If we're going to put a fifth state in there, which one is it? Carolina. Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Cain Country.

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It's pig. And they get all the credit in the world. They're number one on pig. But it's so forgiving. Like you said, John, you know, Texas brisket. I guess, would we give Kansas City ribs? Is that what we give them? Although I like a dry rub.

Memphis, Tennessee is known for their dry ribs, Kansas for ribs. I think Georgia, we do a lot of pork tenderloin. Port tenderloin's a little harder to cook. It's not nearly as forgiving, but if you cook it right, like you do a steak, smoke it to 120, let it rest, reverse cereal it to 140. Do not go above 140, let it rest up to 145. It's perfect. It's juicy, even without all the fat in it.

And then you can dredge the comeback sauce with some of that port tunnel wine is super good. We talked about that in the Fox Nation show, too. He does pork so well. Hey. You know, I'm on a pork. I'm on a kick of ordering. I told you guys this last time we were together, traditional Texas barbecue plate is brisket, ribs, and sausage. That's a pretty traditional plate right there.

Yes. But I've been going off of it lately. I was a barbecue joint last week, and I got the turkey. Oh, smoked turkey. It's funny. when you go to a barbecue joint you say if you ask them they will almost always say our turkey

and I'm always like I didn't come here for turkey is it the black bean I'm going okay I'm going to do the turkey and it is amazing it is amazing if you can find if you can find a place and this is a more hit and miss but if you can find a place it does an awesome

pork chop like pork chops's one of those things you're like oh it's a fourth tier type no when somebody does it awesome right it gets way up there there's a gap where pork chops get a bad rap and then if you can find a legit pork chop, it's top tier.

Hey, I'm going to give a shout out to Georgia right now. Our hometown, five minutes from where we live, is a restaurant called 219 restaurant, serves the absolute best inch and a half, two inch thick, bony and pork chop. Yeah. Probably of any restaurant. Shout out to Sam, head chef there.

He's fantastic. So. Hey, do I get to transition to my moment with you before you cut me off? Yeah, go ahead. We miss you will here in New York when we were coming up here to do Fox and Friends, man. You were one of our favorite guys. You and Pete would be the best eaters.

I remember making you mad when I gave Pete a big tomahawk steak, and the next time we gave you a three-bone-in Tomahawk steak so you wouldn't pout. Man, we had so many good memories, didn't we will? Bro. Oh, it was a great time. Yeah, the recipes and the stories in our cookbook, gathering grill, you're in that. You're in the book. You're in the book.

Yeah. Now, I appreciate you guys. Pouting is a good description. That's a good word. No, man, that was great times. That was great times. That crew that was together at that time is once in a lifetime. Yes.

Once in a lifetime. Yes. I wish I could say that, I mean, I can't go as far to say I wish I was still up there, but I had a great time when we were up there. Hey, and this is an official challenge to you. We've got to get the Freedom Bus to Texas and get on your 4 o'clock show, man. We got to get out there to Texas.

We were just talking about episodes 2, 3, and 4 for our grilling across America and Fox Nation show. We've got to have you on. Bring the bus. Let's do it. Bring the bus. Done. I'll be there next week.

Do it during the World Cup. Are y'all doing grilling across the nation with the World Cup? We are not doing any stop. on the World Cup unless we come see you sometime between Sonoma, California on June 29th and July the 3rd and 4th. Yeah. We go...

We go Wyoming, Sonoma, DC, Indy, we're doing Travis Pastrana, we're hitting Daytona again, Arkansas, we're all over the place, too. You guys need somebody else to come. I'll just bring some hot sauce. I'll just bring some hot sauce. I'll bring extra hot sauce and good vibes.

That sounds a beautiful. down with that. I'm going to text you to pull that bus up and get the grills and smokers out in one of these huge crowds. Yes. They're from out of the country. I just want you to blow away these crowds. That's what I want you to do.

Let's do it. And get that on video. It would be amazing. And it doesn't even matter. Japanese, Argentines, Dutch. It would be so cool to see their reaction. Could not agree more. We should, hey, if my Fox Nation producer,

are watching this or if Gavin is. We're going to Texas. Let's find it up. We're doing another episode. We have a lot of events. So we've got to have you either come to us on location or we'll come to you in Texas, man. Getting me to come is harder than coming here.

I can tell you that ahead of time. Getting me to travel. All right. Okay, there's going to be a quiz for you boys in just a moment, but I'm going to bring Casey back in. Oh, boy. I do want to talk World Cup for just one moment. No, relax, Casey.

I think you can do this. Your three-year-old just went to his first soccer practice. You're ready to talk World Cup. That is true. That is true. Okay, hit me. I'm ready. Okay.

I've got a ride for my guy Alexi Lollis here. He is getting so much flak online. The vultures are circling because Latron Ibrahimovich and Tirani, everybody is saying, don't like him. The World Cup pre-game studio coverage, and the lefty media hates him. because Alexi's kind of conservative, and he's a little bit of a hot take. And now they're writing articles about, you know, this is it for Alexi Lollas. He's embarrassed.

You know, Alexi says something. He says something. And that's sort of key when you have a microphone. Do you have anything to say? And if you want to be honest, there's other people, much more famous, much bigger time soccer players, who are saying nothing. They're saying nothing. And I'm tired of this.

Like, it's the left circling around. You don't have to like Alexi's style. You don't have to like his takes. Not everybody likes Stephen A's style. Not everybody likes Stephen A's takes. That's the way it works. Not everybody likes port noise takes. But this is how we do it.

We have takes. We say it. And you don't like Alexi because you don't like the fact that he likes Trump. I guess that's that right. Is that right, Dan? I don't even want to put that in Alexi's mouth unless it's what he said. But that's why they hate him. That's why they hate him.

That's right. I mean, that's what I hear. Also, there is also an element probably, which I disagree with, but it's because, like, I saw a whole discourse online that they don't like that he uses the word soccer instead of football. It's like he grew up calling it soccer. Get out of here. I know. I completely agree with you. It's ridiculous.

But there is this whole thing. Like, he should be being more respectful to the world game and call it football. He's like, no, I'm going to call it soccer. So I do think there's also an element of just he is an American regardless. I mean, I think that if his political affiliation adds to that, but it's like they want him to all of a sudden. talk about the game differently than he has his whole career and I think that's ridiculous. And there's an anti-Americanism to it by the way.

They don't think Americans have a right to talk about soccer. That's basically... That's why I want to win the whole thing. Yeah, just win. Just keep winning, baby. Dude, how good would that be? Oh, I'd love it. And then everybody should have to call it soccer for four years.

So Patrick... Yeah, that's the rule. That's our sport now. Like hockey. Like hockey. We all know that you don't call it football on a football. you can throw it with your hands. That's right.

Yeah, exactly. That's right. Exactly. The logic is sound. If we, we're not going to win the World Cup, but if we did. Well, we could. I mean. So you're saying there's a chance.

One of a million. We did take hockey. We did take hockey. And Patrick says this is what happened. When America beat Canada hockey, the blowback on American players in Canada, like Brady, Cchuk, Chuck. Chuck. In Ottawa.

he's now been traded the Florida Panthers. Here's the article, The truth behind Brady Kachuk, trade emerges as sinners, Panthers blockbuster. And multiple reports say the reason is that, what, Patrick, in the locker room and in the stands,

they could no longer support their star player because he's American, and he took the middle away from him and went and visited Trump. That's crazy. It started at the four nations. And so, like, you know, the Kachuk brothers were some of the biggest

American players to go against the Canadians. And they rubbed people the wrong way in Canada. And then when we won the gold, he even said, like, hey, close the northern border and stuff like that, went to the White House. So there's like all this blowback on Canadian players because we won the gold. And so, and they're running out their star players. So the next is going to be Austin Matthews, goalie, Connor, Hellebuck. You're going to see them start to leave.

By pretty socialism to freedom. I love it. Yeah, wait until that hits the bottom line. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. What bottom line? Yeah. I think if it starts affecting the dollar, I think there's a lot of things that happen in sports,

but no different than NFL and any other example. I think if it starts to affect the bottom line, they'll change their tune. I'm with the Canadians. I think it's time to trade Victor Wimbunyama to Paris-St. Germain. Send him back to France. You know? At this point, I think... What a downfall he had.

I think Spurs fans might agree with you at this point. well, they're probably just like, this guy just ruined everything in the finals. Get him out of here. Think about it from the Canadian perspective, Patrick. I know which way you're thinking about this, but I want you to think about it from their perspective for one moment, okay? When Binyam was a pretty good example, people were mad that he wouldn't come out for the national anthem or he stood with his arms crossed during the national anthem.

I don't think the Kachuk brothers were doing stuff like that. They were more trash talking. There's this more lighthearted. But if there was, who's, if Luca Donchich was, you know, talking trash about America, I think we would be like, why are you here taking money and playing for our teams then? I don't know. I can kind of see it from their perspective. The difference is that Brady was doing with a twinkle in his eye. He was joking. Yes. And I really think that we need to bring back all of our players,

and then we need to take all of their teams from Canada and bring them to America. And then it would just be the National Hockey League, the true National Hockey League, not this, you know, international. No more Canadian teams. Yeah, no more Canadian teams. Yeah. The way it's supposed to be.

They don't even have, had the Stanley Cup in over 33 years. Why don't they even have teams? No, we just, what we can say is it when you beat us, again, on an international stage, then you can have your teams back, but until then they're ours. Sure.

Oof. Shots fired. Shots fired. Let's a hot sauce on that, baby. I got some in my purse. I can do it right now. You just walk around with hot sauce? I actually do.

That's not a joke. I will show you guys. And it depends on, so I have little bottles of Tabasco. I have little packets of either Chalula or Franks. It just depends on what I've got. But I always have some of my purse because the one thing I can't stand is when I want hot sauce on something and there's not any available. So I just bring it myself. My watch travels is sweet and low.

Listen, you got to do what you got to do. We carry these big purses around. Maclamour, boys. You ready? Yeah. All right. Casey got this, so you're going to get it. We're going to find out.

The question is, what does America know? Now, you guys are very close to the political world. You're always around Fox. You do know these guys personally. So we're just going to see. Oh, good. We're going to start with what Casey could not do. Oh, great.

Who is, and you guys can play as a team as well, so that's going to help you. Who is the Secretary of State? The Secretary of State? Are we just, is this like rapid fire? Yeah. This is going to be multiple questions. I'm starting with... Hi, Rubio.

Yeah. I got that one. Nice. Okay, we're starting easy. Who's the Treasury Secretary? Sean. What? Oh, no, no, no.

He's transportation. Sorry. You said Treasury? Oh, what's the guy? The charge of our money. Yeah, the... See, I'm talking all the time on Fox. Tanya, give me a hint from behind the glass.

You've got glasses. Yeah, I can see his face. You should know this. Tall. Tall. Yeah, it's tall, kind of skinny. Yeah, yeah. I don't know his name.

I'm so vindicated right now. That's it? That's fine. Scott Besson. Scott Besson. All right. All right. DHS secretary.

Mullins. Yes. Mullen, singular. Two first names. Dislexia. Dyslexia. Two first names, one last name. Mark Wayne.

All right, let's get a little harder. Speaker of the House. Johnson. Johnston. Nice. Nice. Leader of the Senate. Tunes.

Nice. Look at this. Dang. Yeah. Just one, no S. Nice. He's got a lot of jobs, too. Dyslexia.

Dyslexia. Where do I go next, Pat? What's the next hardest one? They're doing pretty good, actually. good, actually. I don't even know the minority leader. How about, how about, uh, Oh, you, you, you don't know the minority leader? I, I can guess. House minority leader? Do we care? I think I can guess. Do we care?

Who's the guy? Go ahead, Patrick. Guess. He's the guy that just went to the hospital again. I'm going to say Jeffries? Is it Jeffries? Yes. Oh, is Jeffries? Yeah. Senate? Minority? I don't know that one I don't know that one Send it New York Oh

This is Guys you're gonna shoot yourselves on this one This one is a great griller One of the famous grillers of all time He's one of the great grillers of our time He put the cheese on Before the burgers were cooked On the 4th of July

Oh is it the guy that talks about manhood And all that bull crap He's got a comedian niece relatively famous. That doesn't help. That doesn't help. No? Well, same last name.

Yeah. Oh, comedian. Chuck Schumer. Oh, Chuck Schumer. Oh, yeah. She's on raw beef. Casey, who's his comedian niece?

Amy Schumer. There you go. Yeah. And also, they're related. And also, I wouldn't even say she's, I mean, whether you like her or not, relatively famous, I think she's pretty famous, no? Oh, yeah.

Oh, I think she's funny. Yeah. Yeah, she's funny. I think in that world, yeah, she's very famous. She's in movies. But the movies makes sense now. Before we go, Casey, do you have a quiz for me? I said you could get a little revenge.

Because I haven't gotten off the air yet. No, I, no. Listen, I am going to prepare a quiz to stump Will. So the next time I'm on, you're in big trouble. Because you do this to me all. You do this on TV, you try to stump me. So it's your turn next. I'll come up with a quiz.

Don't you worry. Name the two types of chicken wings. Oh. Two types of chicken wings. That's a good one. These guys came in clutch for me. I knew they would. Two types of chicken wings.

Oh, dude. You call yourself a Texan? Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop talking. Stop talking. Come on.

I even know this. I know this. This is easy, Will. The earth is not round. It's... Stop. Wait, I'm gonna say this. I don't...

What does Ringo Star play? Okay, I don't know what the answer is, but I want to see if Casey does. Two types of chicken wings. Go ahead. Yeah, you have flats. Yep. And you have... I mean, I would say...

Oh, that was a good guess. Oh, that was a good hint. Drums. There you go. No. Drumsticks. No. That was a messed up question.

Flats and drums. Flats and drums. That was a messed up question. How's that a messed up question? No. you should have asked me buffalo wings. I didn't know. I thought you were actually about actual chicken wings.

Actual chicken wings, like there were two different types. When he said the world. I didn't know where were you guys. Buffalo wow wings. He said the earth is not round. It's like garlic parmesan. Flap. But you guys also miss boneless.

I was like, are there, I wasn't including the drumstick in there as a wing. I thought you meant real wings. It's literally the wing. So that's, I will say it's a little tricky because I was going to say flat. and wings. But I was like, well, that's, that's not right. They're all a wing. Flats and drums.

Yeah. That was a trick question. That was, uh, that was an American. Asking us, uh, questions about who we know in the government's, not trick questions. Yeah. Yeah, the whole point of our TV show is so we don't have to do politics is so we can just cook and that. Everybody has a good time.

And I, and I said the same thing guys was sports. And then he asked me a sports question. I got it immediately. He's just playing. He's like the king in his own little gestures court right now. He wants us all to dance for his knowledge. Now you're getting it. Yeah, now you're getting it.

It's like, finally. Dance puppets. There was some confusion when the McLemore boys came in. Everybody had to figure it out, correct. This is my kingdom. And this one hour, you are my subject. Will came country. It's literally in the name.

It's literally in the name on the show. It's true. It's true. Dad came in and was like, Will, I'm going to take us to the next segment. I get in trouble all the time here at Fox. They're like, you're not the director. You're supposed to be the talent. and you're not being talent.

We were doing Stewart Barney earlier, and we got to just tell him stories, and Stewart's like, we got to go. You gotta stop talking. Stewart keeps a mean clock, too. I've been on Stewart show enough. He likes to keep it moving, baby.

Keep it moving. You can keep it moving. Grilling across America on Fox Nation with the Macklemore Boys, it's good to catch up with them. It's been way too long. Expect to see you guys down here in Texas. Thank you, fellas.

Thank you, man. Thank you all for having us on. Yep. Let's go, baby. Let's go. And Casey Smith from Barstool. Always appreciate having Casey on hanging out with us.

For me, it's info, Pat, two of days, Dan, thank you as well for hanging out. Make sure you follow us on Spotify or Apple. We'll see you again next time. Listen to ad-free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcasts. And Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show, ad-free on the Amazon Music app.