Will Cain Country - The NFL Doesn't Need Taylor Swift

Episode Date: September 27, 2023

Story #1: Will's Hot Take: I don't care about Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce. I'm not mad, it's just not fun. Story #2: A deep dive into what really happened in Maui. Story #3: Getting you ready for the 2nd Republican Primary Debate on FOX Business.   Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail]   Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Three, getting you ready for the Republican primary debate on Fox Business. It's the Will Kane podcast on Fox News Podcast. What's up? And welcome to Wednesday. As always, I hope you will download, rate, and review this podcast wherever you get your audio entertainment at Apple, Spotify, or at Fox News podcast. You can watch the Will Kane podcast on Rumble or on YouTube and follow me on X at Will Kane. I gave an interview a little bit earlier today with Outkicks Charlie Arnault. She asked me about Maui, and she asked me about Maui.

about what it has meant to me, this story of the fire in Maui. And I said to Charlie, the following one, I said, well, obviously I have a personal connection and it has been heartbreaking. But when you do what we do for a living, which is to share our opinions with others, it's inherently egotistical to believe that you should share your opinion with an audience in and of itself suggest a level of ego. And so when you do this for a living, you can be wrapped up in your ego, your ambition, your petty fights. You can be wrapped up in yourself.

And as we have talked about together here on the Will Kane podcast, there's just got to be something more. There's just got to be purpose. And so I said to Charlie, while it was heartbreaking, the story has quickly also become very, for me, gratifying. So on Monday of last week, I told you I flew to Las Vegas and got on a plane, a 747 donated by the Las Vegas Sands Corporation, filled with goods from companies from craftsmen tools to kids toy makers, teddy bears, air purifiers from Shark Ninja, almost a million dollars worth of product filled up in the 747 to deliver to a network of seven or eight churches in Maui. I'll tell you behind the scenes, this was something that I'd never done before, and I certainly, certainly didn't do alone in any shape, way, or form. This was an amazing effort of gratuitous and purpose-filled individuals across this beautiful, beautiful United States of America. During my first trip to Maui after the fires, I got a text from Pete Hegseth. He said, hey, man, Andy Abood at the Las Vegas San Francisco.

Corporation wants to connect with you about Maui. I ended up getting a text from Andy who is, I believe, the senior vice president of public affairs, governor affairs at the Las Vegas Sands. Now, Las Vegas Sands is a casino corporation. They at one point owned the Venetian in Las Vegas. They own casinos in Macau all across the globe. They were owned by the former big Republican donor billionaire Sheldon Aedelson, who has since passed and is now run by the Aedelson family. Andy said, we have a fleet of planes. They have 18 planes that is normally reserved for high-stakes gamblers. They fly gamblers across the globe. And we'd love to donate it to getting stuff needed items to Maui. Now, the Sands has a history of this type of humanitarian charity. They've done stuff to get people out of

Ukraine. They have done it during hurricanes. And they wanted to do it when it comes to Maui. I didn't know what to do with that. I mean, what do I do? It's amazing, but what do I do? Well, at the same time, virtually at about the same time, I ended up texting with a guy who's become a friend over the last couple of years, former Green Beret Scott Mann. Scott's been a guest here on the Will Kane podcast. You can go back on previous episodes and you can listen to conversations between Scott and myself. And the reason you can listen to that is because Scott, yes, was a Green Beret who fought in Afghanistan and helped develop many of the village-oriented theories and strategies and how to win in Afghanistan.

But after we ultimately lost in Afghanistan and left, and the government left so many Americans and people who contributed to our fight in Afghanistan were left behind. Scott started, along with many other vets, Operation Pineapple Express. Pineapple Express was the effort to get Americans through the gates of Hamid Karzai Airport or wherever they could to get on an airplane and get out from under the growing tyranny of the Taliban, almost certain death for anyone who helped America. What an incredible effort, Operation Pineapple Express. Well, Scott reached out to me and said, hey, I've been asked to do something kind of similar called Task Force Slajana, a network of people on the ground in Maui, but also who have experience, nonprofits, a company called Lyft, a charitable organization called Fill the Needs, a network of churches, city serve, and many, many individuals who just wanted to help and wanted to start identifying needs and get them to Maui. And I thought, here's a place where I can introduce this offer from the Las Vegas Sands. And then a real effort took place. One day after Fox and Friends, we have these people come on that represent products at various times on the show, say, hey, check this out, you know, this band saw or this tiny home.

And one day in August, there was a woman named Carrie Riley on the show, and she was saying, hey, check out these air purifiers. So after the show, I texted Carrie. I got her number. I texted her. I said, do you think those companies would be interested in donating air purifiers to Maui? Now, I knew that was a need. And Kerry jumped all over it. Over the matter of the next month, Carrie contacted about 16 different companies, e-bikes, scooters, tools.

All of these companies, by the way, are on my Instagram page. You should go check it out. It's C. Wilcane at Instagram, because these are companies that stepped up to help the people of Maui donated hundreds of thousands of dollars, 50,000 pounds. That's more than 30 tons of products to help the people of Maui. And then the real work began.

Like, how do you get that? After Kerry, absolutely dominated. Then we got to get it to Las Vegas and get it on an airplane. And this is where these amazing people like fill the needs and lift and others really flexed their muscle. I don't know anything about any of that stuff, you know?

And so shipping, insurance, TSA, FAA, lifts onto planes, manpower, on and off in Las Vegas, and in Maui. An amazing humanitarian effort took place that I got to witness firsthand when I flew to Las Vegas last Monday. I'm talking pallets and pallets of stuff. I'm talking about the nicest plane I've ever seen. I can only imagine nicer would be Air Force One.

I mean, this is no first class. First class is a dump compared to this plane. Again, Chinese gamblers or celebrities on this plane. Master bedrooms, two stories, a 747 SP, lounges. A lot of it filled up with material. And they had a staff for this plane. They served us multiple meals of not airplane food. And we flew the six hours with an incredibly competent guy pilot, just an amazing individual.

Paul Gilchrist and landed this 747 in Maui, which they said is the biggest plane to land in Maui in three years. Short runway, had to come in very slow. And I just watched all this stuff be unloaded, all these volunteer manpower hours. And then it went to Calvary Chapel Central in Maui, Pastor Sean Hausman. And his crew of volunteers got it and took it to his chapel, where he's got what has been described as a major league distribution center. Shelves upon shelves upon shelves of stuff. People go online. They put in their needs. It's boxed up and ready for them when they show up. Whatever these people need because they've lost everything in a fire. And I got to see this story. I got to tell this story on Fox and Friends. And it's up on my GoFummy. You can see the story. Rather, it's up on my Instagram. See Will Kane on Instagram. It's on my Twitter as well at Will Kane. You can scroll back in. You can see the video. I documented it. We documented it. And between that, and then we went and we met many of the people who received money from our GoFundMe. That's a separate effort that have been pushing since this Maui thing, along again with many, many wonderful people, the Dyer family, the Barnes family.

And so many of you that watch Fox or listen to the Will Kane podcast, I know, listen, I've seen it. I believe there's 21,000 different, 22,000 almost individuals who've donated to that GoFundMe out there. Many of you listening. And I know you gave $5. I know in some cases you gave more than $50,000. I know there's some people that I work with that sit on that curvy couch. I know there's people that I'll never meet or people that my kids go to school with, all of whom have given a lot, almost $2.6 million to this GoFund me.

And we dedicate ourselves saying, let's help at least $200, right? And so for $200, at that time, that was $12,000 grants. to people that lost a home that were devastated. At 2.6 million, we're well over that. I think we can do $216,000 grants. And some families will receive more because they lost more, meaning I know families that lost five homes, four homes between the extended family. I know one family that lost 12 homes, 56 of 82 people homeless.

I told that man, their family was getting $144,000, and I saw the emotion, the tears, the effect on his face for what you did. Okay. I'm a middleman. I'm a middleman. I'm a connector at best. I cared. But what you did, what you gave, I want you to know where your money went. Again, I want you to be able to go to my social media. I'll be updating that. See Will Kane on Instagram, Will Kane on X, where I'll be telling these people stories. You can see their faces. I want you to see the faces. I want you to hear the stories of the people that you helped. But in the long short, what I'm telling you, between these two things, Task Force, Lahaina. this go fund me is gratifying because it can't be about my ego or my following or my bank account none of it can man and of course you know that i just want you know that i know that when i got into this career i wanted to be a real person i wanted to be authentic and that meant what i could do of value would be to tell the truth and i still believe that tell the truth don't worry about being liked don't worry about your paycheck tell the truth and i believe i

believe I've lived up to that. I hope I've earned that reputation, doing this for 10 years now. On CNN, I told the truth. On ESPN, I told the truth. And here with you on Fox, I tell the truth. But there's still more. There's a bigger purpose. We can be there for one another. We are there for one another. We can do good. I'm making this promise to you, in addition to telling the truth, I'm going to use this platform and any others to continue after this is over. By the way, I hope a lot of you got your t-shirts. it right now. Lahaina Strong, $100,000 raised through the shop forward of these t-shirts contributed to that GoFundMe. A hundred grand. I hope you got your t-shirts. But I am going to commit to using this for positivity and purpose. I will continue telling you the truth

in story number two today on Maui. Story number one, I don't care. I don't care about Travis Kelsey. I don't care about Taylor Swift. I'm not trying to be a curmudgeon. I'm just telling you, it's not necessary. I love sports. It's its own form of entertainment. It's the best melodrama on television. It's the best. I always have since I was a kid.

I pour myself my passion into my arbitrarily, although geographically, selected teams. The Texas Rangers right now. A lot of emotional investment is in the Texas Rangers today. The Dallas Cowboys, of course. The Dallas Mavericks. Texas Longhorns, Pepperdine Waves. And because of familial connections, now perhaps some Clemson Tigers.

But it's enough. I love it. It's enough of a drama. It's enough entertainment. Sports is entertainment. I understand that's what the business is. So I don't need pop culture to make it cooler. It's like, for me, flaming hot Cheetos.

Like, Cheetos were good. I didn't need them to be flaming hot. It's just extra. You're doing too much. I don't need. Taylor Swift. Now look, I've got nothing against Taylor Swift and I got nothing for Taylor Swift. I've never been a big fan. I know shake it off. I don't know. I probably know because she's so big other songs, but I can't name them. I don't know the titles. I'm not really into that kind of music. I'm just not. I like country and I like Americana. That's what I like. And I just, so I got nothing. She's not that big a deal to me. But I understand she's massive. She's gigantic. I just not into the story. Like the whole fake like, oh, it's so awesome. Travis Kelsey's dating Taylor Swift because I don't need it to make sports better.

I want to be clear. I'm not being a crumagin. I don't like the conservatives are doing this thing either, you know, where it's like Taylor Swift sucks. And I know why they're doing it because Taylor Swift has a video out where she is saying she has to distance herself from Donald Trump or she has to criticize Marshall Blackburn or whatever may be. And so what? I mean, Taylor Swift doesn't like Donald Trump. Does that make her different than any other entertainer? I have never required my entertainment options to live up whole cloth to my values.

I wouldn't have much. That doesn't mean I don't want to honor and give extra attention and money to those that do reflect my values. But I'm not in the process of becoming a monk in cutting out everybody who doesn't. We can still be trad, traditional. We can still uphold honorable values without having to be an asshole. or commogeant. So I got nothing against Taylor Swift. It's not even about Taylor Swift.

I don't need rappers on the sidelines. I don't need the extra during basketball games. I don't need hype videos. I don't need any of that. I love it enough the way that it is. And I just think that both sides of this, those that are kind of saying Taylor Swift sucks. And those that are like,

Ah, Swifties and football. Man, they're just both kind of riding the trend. the fad, the what is trending, the wave to get a little overflow onto their own accounts. And he's just jumping on what's trending. And so my hot take, I just don't care one way another about Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift. We'll be right back with more of the Will Kane podcast. This is Jimmy Phala, inviting you to join me for Fox Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas. Just kidding, it's only a three-hour show.

Listen live at noon Eastern or get the podcast at Fox Across America.com. Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy host of the Trey Gatti podcast. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at Fox News Podcast.com. Story number two. Separating fact from fiction in Maui. I want to today share with you a conversation with a man named E.

E.C. Cahoe. E.C. is Tongan. He's lived in Maui for many, many years. He works construction. You've met here on this program, probably Kimo Clark, who owns Truth X excavation. Kimo's a long-time Lahaina guy, longtime Maui. And EC works for chemo. I've gotten to know EC a little bit, definitely got to know chemo. And I find him very respectful, respectable, honest truth tellers invested in Maui. So here, not just through those individuals, in a moment you're going to hear long 30-minute conversation with EC Cahoe. It's very emotional. He tells you about a moment where he held a six-year-old girl who lost her life. In a way, it's not so much an interview as it is therapy. And I knew going into it, E.C. wanted to get it off his chest. But here's one of

the reasons, because he wanted to address conspiracy theories. I know for many of you, you may not know, but the Maui story has been just absolutely engulfed in conspiracy. And I want to set the record straight. And I'm going to start with talking about the idea of conspiracies. I want to work through five points. Number one, conspiracies. I do not throw that word around. That is not a cudgel. That is not an insult. Because I believe I myself have been called a conspiracy theorist. I believe many of the things that have turned out to be true have been dismissed as conspiracy theorist. I believe if we were in Vegas at the Las Vegas Sands Corporation, we'd want to bet on those conspiracy theorists. They've been right for a long time about a lot. And here's the

the deal. We are at the mercy of a propaganda machine. Our government and our mass media are telling us lies and then trying to tell us that we are crazy for not believing their lies and that we're a conspiracy theorist for offering alternate truths. And then we're censored should we diverge from the approved thought. I know very well where we stand today. And I know how it got here. It wasn't just with COVID. I actually think it started before COVID. We've talked about that. I think it started with a lot of these racial grievance crimes. We never got the truth on Michael Brown, on Trayvon Martin. We were told lies, and if we pushed back, we were a racist. It hit afterburners after COVID. And for what it's worth, many of the things I'm going to share with

you today come from individuals who were called conspiracy theorists during that as well, who didn't believe the Vax was right for their kids, didn't believe in the efficacy of masks, it didn't believe the death numbers were what we were told because they weren't. Remember when Donald Trump said it's like, what do you say? It's below 1%, I believe, well below 3%. And they said, that's nuts. That's crazy. I'm talking, you know, CNN, Washington Post, New York Times, all of them. Conspiracy. None of it was conspiracy. You were, your North Star was better pointed to the truth. If you were focused on those who were claiming things that others called conspiracy than if you listened to Dr. Anthony Fauci or the CDC or the teachers union. I know all this as a backdrop.

And I know it's continued. I know the propaganda machine and censorship around the war in Ukraine. I know it on almost anything, including our upcoming presidential election with Donald Trump. I'm with you. I'm here to find the truth. But that doesn't excuse everything that is outside the bans of mainstream media's narrative. Not everything just because it is outside the bans makes it true and absolves itself from being a conspiracy. That's the backdrop of this.

That's from where I come. Now, what is fact and what is fiction? Let's start with number two. The cause of the fire in Maui. This is still up for debate. Right now, it is literally the subject of a lawsuit, Hawaiian Electric versus Maui County. There was a fire at 6 a.m. that morning,

which most believe at this point, and there is video evidence to suggest an eyewitness testimony, that a downed power line sparked into dry grass and started a fire at 6 a.m. 80 mile an hour winds that day. There are conspiracies that there weren't wins that a hurricane 500 miles away couldn't cause those kind of wins. There were. I have dozens and dozens of eyewitness testimony, including my family members who were there that day that talked about 80 mile an hour, 60 mile an hour, unprecedented winds, knocking down power lines, knocking out the power, then knocking out cell service. Now, the electricity comes into town from any different locations. So from what I've understood, you can't be sure that just because the power was shut off, it was shut off to the entirety of the town. There are different substations and different directions from the south, from the north. That's basically all you've got in Lahaina, south and north.

Everything else is strung out along the shore, probably no more than two miles inland, maybe three miles inland. One main thoroughfare, a highway, Highway 30, Hanopi-Lani Highway, power lines were downed, they sparked into dry grass. Now, I told you that I believe, from what I've been able to see, Hawaiian Electric has a hard defense to make. They were giving incredible amounts of money to renewable energy. They were focused on moving to something like 50 to 70% solar. Time and energy are a zero-sum game. If you're giving money to becoming climate neutral or whatever it may be, You don't have time and money to give to regular maintenance, making sure your power poles are not old, wooden, splintered poles.

If you have more money, burying the power lines, it's incredibly expensive from what I've been told. Or just maintaining the grass underneath your power line, so they don't spark into a fire. There looks like there could be a tough defense against liability from Hawaiian Electric. For their part, they claimed the fire department came and put out that fire. And that is true, but the fire department left. They claim the fire department left too early Because that fire, most suggest, re-sparks up. It smoulders in the ground, in the grass,

re-sparks up by 3.30 or so that afternoon. 3 o'clock by 3.45, it's almost out of control. It rages into town within an hour. Moving like, I don't know, they said it was jumping. House top to house top. So fast like it was running through wildfire. The winds were pushing it. I've been told, I witness to testimony,

which you'll hear in a minute, that the fire was coming at a diagonal, Not straight up and down like this, but coming out a diagonal towards you if you were on the ocean side of town. That's how it started. Here's fiction. It did not start by a direct energy weapon. That's one of the claims, a laser beam, either from the Chinese government or for our government. The motivations remain unclear to clear out the land of the natives, to give it to the government or to rich billionaires like Oprah.

Obviously, I can never prove a negative. but I knew that the photo evidence that most point to is doctored. It's photoshopped. I know for one, there's a Starlink launch where they use the whatever, the fire contrails going up from the rocket and made it look like a laser beam

hitting the ground in Lahaina. I can't prove a negative. All I can tell you is outside of a few local reporters, one named Chelsea Davis, local Hawaii, there's no one that's talked to more people than me. Outside of a few, there's no one. Dozens upon dozens at every level, okay?

I have spoken, just for the record, I have spoken to people that were in the fires that day. I've spoken to people that have given therapy to those who made mistakes. We're going to talk about in just a moment. I've talked to politicians. I've talked to everyone. No one.

I'm here to tell you, no one has any testimony to say it doesn't even occur to them to talk about a laser beam, a direct energy weapon. I can't prove a negative. there's zero evidence for a direct energy weapon. One of the claims, by the way,

is it things that were blue did not burn. That's a protection against a direct energy weapon. And people show videos of like a blue car on Front Street that didn't burn or a blue umbrellas or a blue rooftop that didn't burn. And then everything else did. I'm here to tell you, on my last trip this past week, I got into the burn zone. More on that in a minute about how you get in and out, okay?

Because it is button down. My first trip, I couldn't get into the burn zone. I could get near this one neighborhood called Wahakuli, which you can see a vantage point from that Highway 30. But then you couldn't get in the burn zone. This time I did. I'm just here to tell you, I saw red cars that did not burn. I saw white cars that did not burn. I have testimony of blue golf carts that burned.

Okay? Fire is crazy. Because there are guys out there posting videos that show why one thing burned and one thing didn't. I don't know what kind of evidence that is that other people believe it's arson. That is not valuable to you. It's not valuable. I'm just telling you with my own eyes, I've seen red and white that didn't burn next to another car. I don't know what color it was because it's burned beyond recognition. So why was that red car protected? Why was that white car protected? It wasn't just blue. Sometimes maybe a blue one didn't burn. I promise you at other times

blue cars did burn. This is not a worthwhile rabbit hole. There's no evidence to suggest there was a direct energy weapon. The cause is much more mundane, much more common, unfortunately. It's going to be incompetence. It is going to be a story of patronage. It's going to be a story of neglect, maybe malpractice, with one institution or the other, and maybe in most probably multiple entities that allowed this.

to get so out of control. A failure of politics without the sirens being notified. There's going to be failure, but it's failure. It's not, well, it's not nefarious in terms of intention. It's nefarious in terms of failure. Okay, number three, the barricades. Did the cops force people on to Front Street? Did they trap people to die?

As you'll hear in just a moment in this interview with EC Cahoe, E.C. spent all night from the minute the fire's broke out through the next morning making trips in and out of town. He had a water truck and he was there to try to help save people. He'll tell you, yes, the cops told him not to go in, but he went in. On the south side of town, I have

dozens of testimony that you could get out of town from anywhere on front street, anywhere in town. You could leave, you could get up to Highway 30, Hano Piolani Highway, and you could leave town to the south. You had trouble leaving to the north. There were cop cars. You'll hear in this interview

you'll say there were no barricades. what EC in this conversation means by barricades is he wasn't counting cars. There's like no official barricade cars turned sideways, a cop saying no. Again, I've had multiple interviews and I've talked to people that were that they encountered those cops and some that ignored those cops and went around them and survived. Why were those cops doing that on the north side of town? You can see this video. It's out there. Those winds knocked down power lines.

They're all over the road. That at that moment was their primary concern. they were getting instructions from headquarters it is true they were getting instructions from headquarters the cops on the ground to not let people drive on 30 over the power lines so they were waving them down onto front street down into town which is not a thoroughfare you can get north and south but you eventually have to merge back onto 30 at both locations so the cops think that's the number one priority it's dangerous to run over a power line was there power in the power line again that takes me back to was it shut off from all directions all substations, I don't know. I don't know that anyone knows the answer to that question just yet. But again, it wasn't nefarious. The fire's raging up on the hillside coming down, okay? But in that moment, and I've talked to these people, they don't realize that's the number one priority. That's the number one fear. They think the power lines are. And it's not until it's painfully obvious to the people on the ground. They yell back to headquarters. I can't listen to

this anymore. I've got to let people go over these power lines. Let them get out. To those on the ground override the orders. Remember, this is happening so fast and so chaotic. So those back in wherever headquarters is saying this don't have a real grasp of the situation either. Even the guys on the ground don't have a grasp of how quickly this is happening. The fire is clearly the number one threat, but they don't realize it until it's too late, and they've already waved a bunch of people down into town. What happens in town? Again, I have testimony. I've talked to multiple people. People panic. They leave their cars. When that happens, other cars behind them can't get out it's backed up now one car could shut down front street it's two

lanes it's one lane going one way one lane going the other it's not a thoroughfare that immediately can shut that down now you got a traffic jam now you got people trapped into cars now you got people that can die burned or smoke inhalation in cars or heat i've been told it's like an oven i do know people that are counseling some of those cops they're dealing with their own mistakes because yeah that mistake is clear now and they're living with a lot of guilt and for what it's worth those cops and the firefighters

they lost their homes almost nobody's home survived I know some of the cops that lost their homes the point of this isn't that no mistake was made yes mistakes were made they're easy to see in hindsight and maybe they should have been seen in the real time as well

judging the threat of the power lines versus the fire you can't yet see but in retrospect is clearly becoming the major threat but it wasn't nefarious to trap people in town to kill them again maybe it's even more nefarious because it's human error all right number four the missing kids i have people that ask me about this all the time where's the two thousand missing kids there's even people that have taken this storyline and said there's tunnels under lehina and it's a child pedophilia ring

and i mean it's that's insane i knew from the first time i went there something wasn't adding up. There was thousands predicted to be dead, missing, and there was a very viable concern of, well, kids were at school, kids were sent home, parents went off to work, how many kids died in the fire? I still don't know the answer to that question. We're still running DNA on people. The numbers are way less than everybody thought. I believe it's something like 97 now confirmed dead, 77 of those identified another 30, 25, 30 who are missing. I don't know how many of those are kids. Again, as you're going to hear in a moment with E.C. Cahoe, he says he saw at least three kids, held one of them. I asked him why were those kids alone? He doesn't know. How would he

know? There's not 2,000 missing kids. That's what's missing from the school system after everybody scatters. And everybody did, to all parts of the island. They don't reenroll in the school system. Eventually, some do, and they're still. I know for a fact, they're doing school in churches. They're doing school under trees outside. They're doing school anywhere they can. They're asking private schools to give space to the public schools, kids are re-enrolling in private schools, trying to just come up with the tuition. It's a mess, man. It's a mess.

But it's not 2,000 kids missing and taken off somewhere. I knew the minute I was there, something wasn't adding up. If there was that many kids missing, there would be moms all over TV. You and I both know it, screaming, where's my child? Where's my child? Even if they felt guilt because they'd gone on work that day, they'd be saying, where's my child? And by the way, on the number of dead, I knew something was off right away. I wasn't meeting enough people

and I met again, so many who knew this guy or that guy that died most of the time I heard my friends and family are safe I would hear oh yes I know a man that died but in a town of 13,000 people if a thousand were dead you would have been hearing it all the time

in a town of 13,000 people if a hundred are dead that might be more reflective of what I experienced anecdotally the numbers are hard to grab because everybody scattered right away and those that died were burned to ash. I know that for a fact.

They were looking for small body parts. Logistical nightmare for the FBI, everyone else working in this. So let's talk about the federal agencies for just a moment. So here's what I've been told about FEMA. I have talked to many people who have complaints. Bureaucratic, boxed people out of relief efforts. I saw that that first week, right?

Boxed people out. Got in the way of civilian efforts. These are legitimate criticisms of FEMA. I'm continuing to monitor FEMA on how they're going to treat charitable donations. I want to make sure that doesn't deduct from any available FEMA funds. I'm going to make sure I'm all over that. But I've also heard from guys like EC, who you'll hear here in chemo, they worked with FEMA search and recovery that they were blown away by how professional and good they were. I've had conversations outside of that where I was told those guys that they worked with, it's the FEMA teams from Washington, and I believe Texas.

A&M are the Navy SEALs of FEMA. They are the ones that are absolute experts in what they do. The best of the best. And that's the ones that many of the guys I talked to had experience with. Again, others had bad experiences with FEMA stepping in and shutting it down. All of those experiences are real. And they're for you to judge. I'm just here to share with you the facts that I know, the truth.

Now, finally, number I believe five. media access this is an absolute problem this was a problem I hate to say that I might have been the one to experience it first but again you'll remember the stories I had to show I didn't say that I was media I had to show that I was a property owner

in that first week to get over there through a police checkpoint and that was on the other side of the island I mean media and everybody was blocked out for oh my gosh 30 or 40 miles in each direction to get over to West Maui and then even when I was there

I was in the Peely Plaza doing a story on humanitarian efforts and his volunteer civilian efforts, 20 miles away, 15, 20 miles away from Lahaina. And I was confronted by someone from the mayor's office who said, I can't be here. He said, do you have permission to be here? I said, yes, I do. And then he went away on his walkie talking and came back, okay, you do not have permission to be here. He told me, West Maui is a media free zone. I said, no, it's not.

It's the United States of America. There's no such thing as a media free zone. So I experienced that firsthand. There's a lot of videos out there right now of different citizen journalists confronting public officials and cops about why it's so shut down. Here's what I think's gone on. So first of all, they shut that down button tight, too tight right away. I experienced it again. Now, why?

Not because they were covering up arson or a direct energy weapon attack. For a couple of reasons. One, privacy. There were still tourists on the island after the fire, and they started getting the tourists off the island. In order to leave, you have to go through Lahaina. The stories I've been told as a tourists were taking pictures, getting out, taking pictures of the burn zone, with themselves in the photo. This really upset a lot of locals, really upset locals. Second, the locals wanted to get in to see their homes, see what was left.

I heard there was a near riot in the first couple of days afterwards as people trampled through there. and I don't know what the confrontation. I don't know if it was local versus tourists. I don't know if it was local versus local, but it became a near riot I was described. Three, safety. They did not want people trampling through that ash. It's full of asbestos.

The title led, a lot of conversations. You can be near it. You can be five yards away. But if you're in it and you're trampling through it and it's coming up, you're breathing it in, it sticks to your clothes. It's incredibly effective. harmful on kids if they hug you out on the clothes it's bad news bad news so they wanted to keep people out the black screens is something on the internet the black screens they're erecting all over

the place i do not think that is any type of conspiracy that is on almost any construction site certainly in hawaii i've seen it a lot it's a dust screen it's a privacy screen it's a safety screen you can still see past it in many places trust me because of the topography hill goes up you can still see past it. They're trying to keep people out of the burn zone for those reasons that I've just laid out to you. Now, it doesn't mean they didn't overstep. They have. You still can't pull over on the highway above and start taking pictures down there. There's still cops ready to run you off. Why? Why? I think that culturally, you've got an island of local politicians who are empowered in this moment who flexed muscle. I think culturally there is privacy over free speech issues with many

people there. I think you have unimpressive politicians declaring to their minions get media out of West Maui. Insanity. And here's the problem with that approach. And that was a problem. And you're still seeing videos up today of people revealing this. It leads to other things.

When you shut down information, just like our government censoring COVID or Ukraine, you give rise to people filling that information. And not all of that information is true. That's what I want. wanted to share with you today. That is a massive mistake by all those government agencies. Because you have given rise to the untruths or the conspiracy that is dividing people, not just in

their pursuit of the truth, but in rebuilding. That is fact from fiction as far as I know. And again, I'm here to tell you the truth. And I've put a lot of effort, a lot, reporting on the ground, talking to so many people into getting to the truth. Okay. I would encourage you. True X. Life on Instagram. Kimo Clark has done two videos on these conspiracies. Again, no one's more in it than him, including the idea that 300 bodies washed up on Lanai. He goes through a lot of these things. I think you deserve the truth. Trust me. The truth doesn't absolve FEMA. The truth doesn't absolve the government. No one's been more critical than me. Okay? And we'll continue to be. The truth doesn't absolve local. politicians. Does the truth absolve local cops from making mistakes? That's for their conscious and perhaps a negligence suit. But the truth is everything. So I did it do one of my best to share with you the truth. Now you can hear it from E.C. Cahoe in this interview. So tell me, tell me what happened that night. That night, uh, um, when the fire happened, I didn't even

think of dying at all. I was fighting the fire and one of my co-worker was with me, his name James and we went through around here some crazy stuff that I pull and I guess I made him feel uncomfortable and get to the point he's like I want to go home you know and I know deeply in me he's his worry about for the both of us and I'm like yeah I'll drop it off to the Bay Shad and you can head home rest you know and I'll just do my thing when I was driving around around here fighting the fire was just only me the water truck was on front street and there's a lot of people trapped in there and I and I happened to

be just there to get them up, you know. When I was coming around with a water truck on Lanyipoko side, and the cops were like told me to, don't go in, you know. At that time, the smoke, the fire is like going crazy. But I didn't stop. I know there's people out there that needs help, and I have the water truck to do it.

And it just, I'm like, God just, just work through me and guide me in there. You know, I don't know where they're at, but just take me in there. And that's when I came around the cop car, I was just blow right through it, and I get down here. There's like two cars was stuck there. I don't know what to do. Looking left and right, there's no way out.

And then I was popping out in the middle of nowhere. and was screaming at them and shooting water, give their car cool because the fire was pretty crazy. I screamed at them like, hey, follow me, follow me, you know. And they did. So what we did, they followed me, and they also stay on the right side of my truck because we're heading that way, heading south.

So I'm pretty much using the water, one of my canyon on the side and spray them and keep them cool. and we can walk our way out, you know. So we got out there. They thanked me so many times, you know. It could have been worse. The heaviest part of my rescue was, I came around on, I saw one little girl pretty much.

She was she was still breathing, but She can't hang out, you know, a little longer. And I held that little girl on my arms, and she looked at me and that was it. And I was like, get down on top of her and just cry, even though the fire was right by my truck. It's ready to burn down the truck

and brought me and up in the same. in the same place as her. And at that point I have to make a speed decision for myself, you know. I was so upset, I was so mad. I ripped my clothes off and wet my shirts so to keep my face cool. And you know, you have that decision. You have to toss something out of the way and you have to run for your life. and that's something that the next day i had to think about it and i think that's just not how you

how you play someone is you know that lost the lives and and it's been haunting me um day and night. Couldn't sleep. I'll go for a run, like 2 o'clock in the morning, till 5. And pretty much like that every day, you know. Every time that I can't sleep, I either go run or go to the gym or find something to stay busy, you know, get my mind off of it. So time the fire happened. So I couldn't save that kid, but I was able to save a couple more kids down in Front Street by 505. There was 14 teenagers. They happened to be a tourist. And they were running, looking for way out, you know.

And I only have this little bit of water in my tank. It's pretty much for me to get me out of the fire. So what I did, I sacrificed that water for those teenagers by screaming at them, hey, if you want to leave to exactly what I said. You know, just climb the steps behind the water truck and jump in inside because there's still water in there and keep them cool. I also like stop the truck and come back up. I just want to make sure they're not going to struggle in there, you know. Hey, whatever, your shirt, take your shirt off. wet on, you know, put on your face so you can breathe, you know, have some kind of like,

you know, clean air, you can, instead of like smoke is over the tank already at the time. And I got them out from 505 and take them out to Hokkiokyo. That's where Goodfellow and us, as well, based on, right now. And I don't know what time was it, but I came back to refill, but there's no, there's no water. There's no water for me to get back on it. And yeah, I save a lot of homes up that way when the fire was shift going uphill. A couple of my friends' house, also Kimmer's best friends. I went over there, there was a lot of gates and no one be able to get in there.

I know where those dirt roads and where those gates at. I came up, it was lock. You know, I don't know how to open it, I don't have to go. All I did, I just back up the drug and dodge the gate open. That's the only way that I can figure out the fastest way to open, you know, so I can get in and go take care of fire. Let's go back to your work on Front Street. Yeah.

How many people do you think it was that in the end you escorted out of Lahaina? Uh, probably 16 or 17 people. And how many trips was that? Five trips. So you would go into Lahaina with your truck somewhere along Front Street or downtown. Yeah. I'll find a group of people. Yeah.

And they climbed on the truck. follow the truck out of Lahaina? No, I told him to get in the truck. It's too crazy, you know, the fire and the wind, the wind make it worse, you know. When I get out from the truck, I can feel the heat and it's like all over my face, you know. And sorry, but sometime I like have to touch my hair

and feel my hair if I still have hair. And just to make sure I don't lost my hair. Yeah, but it was pretty crazy in this bowline down there, trees all over the road, you know. One time I went in and I tried to get back, and there was like two, three cars was already, like, blocking my way out. When I went in, there was no cars.

But on my way out, there was cars all over the place. And I said to myself, oh, I'm F, pretty much, I'm stuck in there, you know, just no way out for me. Somehow it's just the thought in my head, I'm not slowing down. I'm going to use the bumper on my back truck and just keep pushing everything to the side and just get through it. There was a barline hanging on top of my canyon, and I just dragged him along the way with me. and I'm like, oh my God, this, I'm not dying today, no one's going to die. Those power lines, whatever, is coming with me, no matter what, I'm not stopping. You never worried about dying?

I'm not worried about dying. I was worried about saving people. When you say you weren't worried about dying, because it never occurred to you or because it wasn't your priority? It wasn't my priority. And what I did, I think, is not because of my experience that I have. I think it's pretty much God worked through me. And I think he planned everything line up for me, you know, without my knowledge. Because at that time, I was doing the rescue in my head,

whatever I think of to do, that's what I'm going to do. That's what God wants me to do. If I change that, something's going to go wrong. So whatever was coming to my mind, that's what I'm going to do. And that's just pretty much it. That's what I did. So help me understand the scene when you're making these trips in. You know, I hear about the low visibility, the smoke made it really hard to see.

Yes. I know that at some point you encounter flames. But one thing I keep hearing from people, I think for a lot of people who weren't there and who are watching, it's hard to understand. It's what you've described the heat. Fire shift. That way. It's, yeah, you can feel the heat before the fire gets close to you, pretty much.

But when I get in, for sure, I didn't, most of the time I didn't see anything. It's just blacked out, even though it's like Fridaylight, you know. I just went through it and I'm like, I'm hoping, hoping it's going to pass and give me some kind of disability to, you know, continue to what I was doing. And did it pass? Did you get visibility? Yeah, I did. I did going forward and then make some turn around over there and came back. And it's still the same. Everywhere I go is like that. It's like dark black smoke and fire mixed together coming down.

And it's not like coming vertical like the fire, but it's leaning with the wind and just make it even harder. And what surprised me with all that crazy that I went through with the water truck, not a single burn on the water truck i came out and like look around the water truck not single burn and i know i was the man above was you know protect me though along the way where was most of your work in lehaina i know you mentioned front street and i know you said you were taking people south yes so where were you that night in town so i was in 505 but um oh yeah i was We were in Karnapali, coffee farms, and that's where we were working at. And we had to come through some crazy bar line that is already leaning.

I have videos, everything that I talk about, I have videos of all of it. I don't know what's the best, how I can put this into words. But I know I don't have to prove, to prove, my, what I've done. But you know, nowadays, everyone can just make up a story and not even bring up, like, a proof to it. So that's why I do those pictures. It's because my story is true and what I saw is true.

Because there's a lot of crazy, crazy conspiracy out there, you know, about people talking about the laser beam. and all that. And none of that's true. And pretty much blaming the cops for putting up barricades to, you know, pretty much get people stuck in there to die. I don't think someone would do that, you know. And I have pictures of everything, you know, of the power lines being on the road, you know. the cops they do their best you know they do their best in the firefighters you know I have no I have any I have nothing against them they did what they what they

could you know and for people to like blame the cops for not helping them you know why the cops didn't go go in there and help people up you know to be able to go help you need some kind of support you know to to keep you, you know, from getting burned in there too, like water, you know, you need a water truck. And I was able to do that because I have a water truck. I don't think the tops can do that. You know, what? They're going to put out the fire with their blue lights, you know?

This is all they have, you know. The firefighters is like they're heroes, you know. You know, they were day night, night and day, fighting fought fire, even lost their own homes. And they're still out here, you know, and people still complaining. And the conspiracy about everything is just insane, you know. It's pretty much those conspiracies are going to end up divide us, you know, but I want to people of Lahaina to know that we're the one we see everything from day one you know and as somebody who was there that night in this sounds like every element of this story from the beginning

yeah yeah to all through the night your experience in the response as you point out from the fire from the police yeah maybe from the electric company your experience is what that amidst chaos everyone was doing their best that perhaps mistakes were made yes that everyone do their part but things just happen so quick so you can't you can't really like you know plan things ahead you know and bring more water trucks or more cops to you know help people get out of there you know it just happened so quick and uh people just abandoned their cars on the road you know and it just pretty much cost more traffic and then it's just all piled up over there and nowhere to go and all they can think of is jump in the ocean for safety. I want to ask you that. You know,

everybody wonders why there was so much traffic and people stuck on front street and part of it has been the suggestion, you know, that the police were not letting people out of town. Yeah. Certainly on the highway because of down power lines. Yes. But there has been some question, why couldn't people get off of front street? Was what you saw that people abandoned cars at some point, ran from their cars, and then that made it so cars behind couldn't get out? Could it get out. Yes, correct. And, you know, people pretty much panic, pretty much, right? So when one person left their car, like, on traffic, it's going to cause a lot of problem, because the next person or behind it can't move forward because it's just, that person is long gone, you know,

and that's going to create, like, a big problem on the road. And that's part of what you saw, why people were trapped? Yes. And it's the only way for them to get to get out of the situation is the ocean. And thank God the ocean is right there. So, ECA, you're addressing a lot of the things that people question online about this story. One of the things people ask a lot about is the number of people that have died and the number of people of missing. Now, you have just told me that you have seen bodies, you have seen people. Do you have anything to help us understand the missing and the dead?

The conspiracy about people, I think the number is pretty much just insane. And how much kids was missing. School buses was long gone. You know, the conspiracy about the school buses, oh, where was all these school buses? It was over here. And the next day, no longer over there. Where was the kids? You know, when I was fighting the fires, I saw the school buses was going and pick up tourists.

from the hotels. It's pretty much evaporate and had over, drop them off to the airport pretty much. I see those buses like was coming back and forth, the school buses. And the conspiracy about the kids being taken away and still not found and parents, it's just overwhelming, man.

And let's put it this way. When you make up all kinds, thought like that and it become in a lot of lies about it and if people believes it it becomes a big problem you know the amount of people I don't know how you know how many people were strapped in your own building like over in there I don't know that because we can't even tell because it turning to they could be ashes and I don't know how you're gonna get a TNA out of it but I see

I see a couple, probably, I don't know, how many bodies that I saw, but it's more than 10. Include kids. How many kids? Three. You knew that specifically. Yeah. That wasn't a guesswork number. That seemed to be something you could answer very quickly.

Yes. There's no, there's no, about it. I'm sorry about that English. But, yeah, I troll bass by them. I couldn't just keep driving without checking if they have any kind of, you know, sign of life. How old? I'll say seven, five, and 11.

What was their family, their parents? I have no idea. I have no idea. The first one, I check, just no sign of life. The second one, and the third one is that girl, that little girl. And I felt that she still had a sign of life, but that's why I started holding her on my arms.

And she looked at me and that was it. And I knew, and I was crying. And I said to her, hey, at least he didn't die alone. Every day I come to work and all those things that happened. You know, I have that kind of look you just have to be put up a fake smile. on your face, you know, and just go to work. But deep down inside of you, you feel dead because of the thing that you saw. I just want people to be strong, people in La Jainan.

The conspiracy is crazy. It's going to divide us for sure. If they want to hear a lot of story, I'm over here. Kim was here, you know. We would love to talk to the people, you know. I don't care about other people, I just, you know, I care about the people in Ohio, you know. What's the hardest for you to deal with right now? Is it that little girl you just told me about? Yep. There's other stuff you told me about on your phone. What's the hardest? Um, that's the hardest one pretty much. Before all of these fires was going on, I, I lost

my mother, right? So I, to do cancer, I was October of last year. So my life has been roller coaster already. And then all these things just, you know, come up together, just pile up and just, I don't know where to go, you know. I feel it's like when I go to work, I don't know where it's home. You know, even if I go home, it's not feels home, you know. And, and, That's why everybody started notice, I worked late at night, you know, either fine cleaning something or, you know, try to sleep, can't sleep, and then I just got on, put on my working boots and just go for a run every night like that. You lost your house? I didn't lost everything. I didn't lost my coworkers, my boss.

I just lost here and here. Kimmo told me, though, you lost some family as well in the fires. Yes, cousins of mine. They live right by Safeway. And, yeah, I just found out that like three days later. Yeah. I didn't care about if I lose my house or anything, you know, But losing someone, family member, that sucks.

How does that make you feel that you're on one end of town, fighting fires, saving lives? On the other end of town, you're losing family in the fire? The way I see it, even though it's hard to think about it. But there's nothing I can do. about it, you know, they're already gone. There's people out there still looking for way out, and that's where I was heading. If I can't save my families, but I can save other people, and that was important. There was my whole goal of fighting the fires. I know I can't fight

the fire, fight the fires from the bottom, but my call was just going in to save lives. many hours were you in town? I was the first in town probably seven seven hours, seven to eight hours. Fire started at roughly four o'clock that day, a little before. And all the way night, day. I have videos of everything and I'll be happy to share it with you guys. So I want to ask you the CC not because I'm just morbidly curious But because I think when people don't have information and they don't understand, they do fill it with other information. So you saw. You saw probably as much as anybody in town that night, if not more, than anyone else who had a perspective that night, that day and that night.

When you encountered 10, 12 people who have died, three kids who have died, what is their situation? Are they on the street? Are they in cars? I know you weren't able to get into homes. Yeah. So what was the situation where you saw that people had lost their lives? On the streets Get stuck on the roof things collapsed down and got them right there in their cars with their dogs

The kids you saw were on the street I guess I saw what was on the street prison street prison street like they were running from the fire yes they were running from the fire but they kept it's because it's too much smoke

and just those poor kids can't can't keep up with that and you're engulfed with smoke and it's dark and it's black and yeah when I when I get to to them it's like that's where in the fire

it's like already about 50 feet away from me and it's coming fast and then I was coming and then passed them and I realized oh those are kids and they're back up and then you know parked the truck and I open the truck run down and do the best again again I ask you this to try to understand when you saw these people what is it that they had died from smoke inhalation smoke ball lines just come down and

yeah take them out I mean you've shared a lot with us today I mean I think you've told me the answer to this question but I feel like I just want to ask you again how are you doing?

I'm not doing at my best I'm not one to ten I'm at four and I'm that kind of guy that that everyone that I work with, that I always try the best and be a good example for everybody

and put my emotion away and, you know, and do what it's supposed to be. It needs to get done. And then I go home and stop, you know, get with my emotion at home. Yeah. What we do next? And then I show up the next day and, like, nothing was happened.

But Kimo noticed, he can see it. see it and he knows it I won't I'll never that guy to give up on anything so what will you do next I just show up to work and go to work and then go home and then I'll try to eat a good meal and then try to manipulate my mind like watch TV and hopefully I'll fall asleep but never happened I just Keep me awake, it gets me so angry, and get me all mad for no reason, you know, upset in myself. I could have done more. And, yeah, I wish there was people out there with me, you know.

We could have done more, but I started thinking about it, and there's nothing I can do. Nothing more I can do. Is there anything more that you want to tell us? Right now, my heart is just go out to the people flying now. I know most of my friends, they try to get me to hang out with them. And I'm not even ready for to be so-so. Before my mom passed away, her last words to me was, don't leave Maui.

And I start to thinking about it. Maybe she knew there something is going to happen and I was, and I'm the right guy for the job. You know, it's crazy. I guess my mom was knew something's going to happen. And this, that's just, that's it. I just want people of Lahaina to be strong. We can all go through this together.

We just need to be patient and trust in us of doing this work. You know, we're not trying to make a ton of money to manipulate the process. You know, that's why we're here. We're doing this work and we keep them update by posting it, you know, on social media. I don't care what other people from different places is going to say. You know, everybody's all thing crazy right now. And we don't need that kind of energy around here now. So.

I appreciate you, man. Yeah. Thank you for sharing this with me. No problem. There you go. I hope you stuck around for that interview. If you're still curious about more and you want to hear more about some of the theories that have gone on around Maui, Truex, Life.

Kimo Clark, he has two separate videos in total. Together, they're like 15 minutes each, or 15 minutes in total. one's 10, one's six, you can hear more of these issues addressed. I think the important thing to remember there is that's a man who stepped up and that is this story. I'm telling you, I've had people say, we'll get to the bottom of, don't just do human interest stories. This is the bottom of it, okay?

It's about a man who did and saved. It's about a people who support one another. It's about humanitarians and Americans who give to rebuild. That is the bottom of it. Is there more on incompetence and accountability? Yes. Yes. But at the bottom of it, I promise you, that is the story about the goodness of people.

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The GOP primary debate We'll have more to break this down tomorrow Pete Heggseth Sean Duffy Perhaps Lawrence Jones will join us for a little bro fest and breaking down the debate For now here's what I'd have to say

Two sides of a coin Be more aggressive, be less aggressive Ron DeSantis Be better Be more aggressive Ron DeSantis at his best Besides making policy and governing was when he was at a podium

dealing with a hostile media propagandist when it came to COVID, pushing back. And Ron DeSantis was solid, man, solid. He was a pugilist. He hit back. He's got to do that on the stage tonight. He's got to be that guy. He's got to show, which is going to be hard, because I don't think it's in his personality.

Alpha, which is, with charm, positivity. He's got to try to thread that needle. He can't sit back as much as he did in the last debate. On the flip side of that coin, be less aggressive. Mike Pence, Vivek Ramoswamy. Mike Pence, in my estimation, came off very coarse, very unlikable. He clearly went in that last debate, intent on attack. I don't think it worked.

Mike Pence needs to dial it back. Be a happier warrior. Vake Ramoswami is a happy warrior, but all the polling suggests he was very polarizing. I mean, he made a name for himself. He got attention. But women in particular didn't like Vive. I thought he was like the class troublemaker. I think Vivek has to try to dial it back in some way.

If I'm one of the other candidates, I'm telling you still, Vivek needs to be challenged on a lot of things. Positions he's held in the past, business he's done in the past, and I like Vivek. Everybody deserves to be challenged. I like Vivek personally, and I think he's wicked smart. But I don't know why somebody wouldn't challenge him on these positions. If I'm Vivek, answer it.

You always have an answer. He's brilliant. I'm sure I'll have an answer. But be less aggressive. Maybe a little less polarizing in how you push that forward if you want to win points to quite honestly come in second because we all know this is all being run away with by Donald Trump. All right. I hope you found this valuable today. Again, I'll see you after the debates.

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