Will Cain Country - The Race Is ON! Where We Stand In The Homestretch

Episode Date: September 3, 2024

Story #1: 63 days until Election Day. Where does the race stand? Are we in the homestretch, the fourth quarter, or have we just begun? Story #2: Arrest Elon Musk. Assault on free speech. Suspend the Constitution. Why the republic no longer matters to the Left. A conversation with Visiting Professor and Global Ambassador, Northwood University, Author of ‘The Parasitic Mind,’ and host of ‘The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad,’ Dr. Gad Saad. Story #3: The crew talks weddings and College Football. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Conditions apply. One, 63 days to election day, whether or not we're in the home stretch, or we're just out of the gates, where do we stand in Kamala Harris versus Donald Trump. Two, we should listen because it's being said out loud, arrest Elon Musk, assault free speech. suspend the Constitution, a conversation with Professor Gad sad. Three, a weekend with my people talking college football in one of the most mysterious frontiers in America. It is the Will Kane show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page.

Terrestrial radio, coast-to-coast, market-to-market, and always on demand by simply hitting subscribe at Apple or Spotify, or hit subscribe on YouTube. Jump into the comments section on Facebook, where last week we did over half a million on one particular episode, or jump into the comments section on YouTube and become part of the Willisha. While you're there, hit subscribe, and we'll bring you into the Willcane show. Speaking of the Willisha, what's up, boys in New York, two a days, young establishment, James. Do you guys have a good Labor Day? You guys have a good long weekend? It's one of the first long weekends I've had in forever. It was nice.

It got time to do some stuff, you know, wedding planning, which is fun. But also got to a lake, which is nice. It's coming. It's coming. Wedding day. Dude. It's coming. Dooms day.

It's not Dooms day. Actually, that's what I was doing this weekend today. I was at a wedding. Oh, nice. And actually, I hope you will stick around not just to keep our show on air and running technologically and contributing on air. I hope you'll stick around because I have a few thoughts about weddings and one of the big, what I think,

you know how I get, like, captivated by frontiers. One of the mysterious frontiers of America. I'm going to tell you about that coming up a little bit later here in the Will Cane show. But big weekend of college football, our boy tinfoil Pat, absent today from the Will Kane show. Is that because the world's biggest Florida State fan is now 0-2? Man, that was rough. They looked bad.

I felt bad for him last night. thinking about him but you know could be why he's out he's right or die he is he is hardcore I like somebody that's hardcore about something random that's random in my life like you know more passionate about anything else in the world

the Florida State Seminoles he didn't call in sick this was a pre-planned week off for tinfoil pat but it's it's gonna be well-timed because he would have gotten it today here from the Willisha ugly start for Florida State

good looking start for the rest of I guess I don't know about everybody here on the Wilcane show but good looking start for me

by the way I had a big football weekend I had the weekend off from Fox and Friends which meant on Friday night I got to do Friday night lights baby I got small town

or maybe not small town but small school Texas football I got to see the sun kick one extra point two kickoffs and about half a dozen punts. If you can do the math on what I just told you,

but if you can do the math on what I just told you, good game or bad game for young Mr. Kane. Oh, bad? Two extra points, one extra point, two kickoffs, half a dozen punts. Bad. They scored 15 points? They scored seven points. You kick off once to start one of the halfs,

and you kick off after a touchdown. Not a strong suit. They lost 42 to 7. So our resident onside kick specialist, we've talked about that, I think, here. My son has developed a unique talent. I like to joke, it's like being good at Russian roulette because of the chance, the element of chance is very high in an onside kick. But for some weird reason, he keeps coming up aces.

And he did in his first game of the season, which was in Ireland. No onside kicks here. There's no point in onside kicking when you're down 42 to 7. But I got to do a little football. We'll review that as well in story number three today. But we've got a big show. You want to stick around because one of the deepest thinkers we ever invite into the show, Gadsad, Professor Gadsad, author of the Parasitic Mind is going to be with us. He's got a new book he's working on. He's written a paper called Suicidal Empathy. I find this absolutely fascinating. And we're going to apply suicidal empathy to this trend we're watching. there's an open call for the suspension of free speech. There's an open call in the pages of the New York Times

for the suspension of the United States Constitution. We're going to get all to that in just a moment. But 63 days until the election, I don't know. Honestly, I don't know if that means we're just out of the gates. We're in the fourth quarter. We're down the home stretch. But we need to take a state of the race. Story number one.

It is often said, that the race doesn't begin until after Labor Day. Over the summer in a presidential election, you ride several highs. One could call them sugar highs with your party convention. First, the Republican convention, which, of course, was on the tail end of an attempted assassination. Let's just repeat that for a moment.

An attempted assassination of Donald Trump that has poof. Disappeared not just from the news cycle, but from the public mindset. Obviously, in the wake of that and the Republican National Convention, Donald Trump, was riding high. Then we saw Joe Biden exit the race for president. Kamala Harris still somewhat riding high from the Democratic National Convention. And here's where we stand today. If people say the race doesn't begin until after Labor Day, then we are out of the gates.

If it feels like this has been going on forever, then maybe we're down the home stretch. Either way, this is the real clear polling state of play as of today. The real clear politics poll average shows Donald Trump, 46.3, Kamala Harris, 48.1, a 1.8 favorable polling average, according to RCP, for Kamala Harris. We can put this stuff up on the screen. Top battleground states, it's much tighter. Trump 47.5, Harris, 47.8. Favorability ratings, Trump, negative 9.4, Harris, negative 1.1. A swing of 8.3 in favorability for Kamala Harris. And then interestingly, the real clear politics betting odds just recently moved,

but they moved in favor of Donald Trump, 49.7. to 48.8 for Donald Trump in the Real Clear Politics. Betting odds. Now, Nate Silver, 538, Holster, he sees a different state of play. He looks at the Electoral College map, and currently he has it as 55% odds of winning for Donald Trump, 44.6% odds for Kamala Harris. Now, how much stock we put in various polls or the past. track records of Nate Silver or Real Clear Politics, that is the best we can ascertain

today, again, as we open the gates. The most interesting number for me, the number that I want to talk about today is favorability, the one that shows an 8.8% advantage for Kamala Harris. Because favorability is, unfortunately, I think, the surface of the river, a river which has a lot of rapids, a lot of boulders, a turbulent river. But a river that most people float along the surface, as we've talked about. If there's any real goal here on the Wilcane show, besides to hear a bunch of idiots have a good time, talk college football, and try to dig into deep ideas, it is to encourage us to stick

the rudder down into the stream, to fly our sail. In other words, to be the captain of our own ship, you know, to understand the issues, what's beneath the surface, what winds are pushing us in a certain direction, not just rise, along the surface, for example, of favorability. But that doesn't prevent us from trying to, you know, take the temperature of the patient, understand reality, see the world around us. And unfortunately, and I mean that, unfortunately for most of the world, they ride along the surface. So you have to look at the water, like a fly fisherman. You've got to be able to read the river. And the river is, I think, as follows.

Jessica Tarlov, Democratic strategists, often appearing on Fox News, said something, I think, very accurate last week on the Will Cane Show. She said that for the past decade, American politics has been defined by Donald Trump. And that's true, meaning most people have been animated, enthused, motivated to vote based upon their favorability

of Donald Trump. Love him? They hate him. And that's about the depth of their analysis when it comes to voting for president. I don't mean to insult the American public, because I mean there's a lot of big issues like the economy that motivate voters. But if it's truly the issues, like if that's the big, big thing, well, then Trump would be winning in a landslide

because we show that the economy is overwhelmingly the number one issue and overwhelmingly trends towards Trump. So why? Why is the betting odds tight, if not favoring Trump? Why are the polling averages favoring Kamala Harris? because people ride along the surface of their feelings about Donald Trump, and they have for 10 years. Now, Kamala Harris knows this, and her team knows this.

And that's why they're running a campaign on vibes, but also on a protective bubble. Very little exposure to Kamala Harris. The question is, can she pull it off for 63 days? You see, she right now is blah. I don't mean that as an insult. I mean that as a campaign strategy. she's a placeholder she's a vote for other joe biden became he was in 2020 a vote for other and he became in

2024 an unacceptable vote for other democrats figured out if we just swap in a sentient breathing all cylinders firing presidential candidate it will return to the state of play for the past decade people riding the surface and voting how they feel about Donald Trump. And that's what Kamala Harris remains. She remains that placeholder, that other, that blah, that blank slate, that referendum on Donald Trump. Now, can she pull it off to Election Day? Well, to me, that comes down to a couple of different factors. First, number one, who exactly is Kamala Harris?

What does she believe? She's been a public office holder for quite some time. Hell, she's the vice president of the United States. She was a United States senator. She has voted. Who is she? It shouldn't be a mystery. And it can't or should not be something as defined in two months when you have a track record.

And the answer to who Kamala Harris is, is that she was the furthest voting senator to the left, even more so than Bernie Sanders. That comes to a surprise to most people. I'm telling you still, there are people that do not know this about comelaires. Now, Donald Trump's going to call her comrade Harris. People like me are going to talk about her open embrace of Marxism, which she has. We've played the clip of her talking about equity. It means, in her words, direct quote, equal outcomes, that we should be pursuing equal outcomes. That's an open embrace of Marxism.

But it's not breaking through to the person writing along the surface. And that's in part because she has a complicit media that's going to play the game. keeping her in a protective bubble for three months and only two months to go. Let's revisit the first sit-down interview last week. I haven't gotten to speak to you since. Kamala Harris and Tim Walts sat down with CNN's Dana Bash. Not much came out of that interview. It wasn't a big needle mover.

But that's a win for Kamala Harris. I don't think she has to win America. She has to remain blah. She has to remain an option other than Donna. Donald Trump. And Dana Bash and CNN played their role in keeping her undefined in asking, I think, ridiculous questions of Kamala Harris. I actually think it's worth breaking down what I'm talking about. I don't just want to cast an aspersion. I'm not going to sit here and tell you I have completely mastered the craft, but I do take pride in an interview. I do take pride

in curiosity. When I joined ESPN in 2015, they used to have this. Budget cuts have meant that it's no longer a part of their program. But when you joined DSPN as an on-air talent, they had a course that you took. And the man's name is escaping me for the moment, but it was a phenomenal course on interviewing. And he taught you how to ask questions. And I mean, there were lessons I learned in that interview that, you know, I mean, in that course, I retained to this day. You know, you learn things. It goes in one year out the other. My memory's getting worse as I get older. Hey, speaking of getting older, guys in New York, I'm going to tell you a story real quick from this weekend. My youngest son went with me to the Friday night football game and he was with me

all weekend at the wedding and he said to me, you know, dad, yeah, people are talking and I started wondering, do you dye your hair? And I said, what do you mean, man? He goes, well, I was looking around like all your friends and they're gray and you're not. And he asked me in sincerity, do I dye my hair? It's infiltrated the home. this suspicion. Everyone asks. It's good genetics, man. He should be happy about it.

Look at it. I can't zoom this camera. I need to, I can, there are grays appearing on the edges. This isn't, there's zero die. Zero die. Yeah, you went a long time without it. I had to explain that to West.

But what are the things I remembered as I'm aging, and I'm starting to, like, show some cracks in the old. memory is here's the type of questions you should ask. First of all, open. So a closed question provides the interviewee the option for a yes or no answer. You don't want yes or no answers. You want the interviewee to talk. You want them to expose more about what they say. So you ask open questions, why, how, when, what. You don't say, did you X? Easy opt-outs, yes or no. That doesn't mean you never use that tool as a question, but you want to frame them that way. Neutral questions. Don't put value propositions in the question so that you reflect what you believe.

Now, when I do this, in a few minutes, we're going to have Professor Gad Saad here on the Wilcane show. I'm going to talk to him conversationally. It's not an interview. So he'll hear my opinion. I'll hear here's opinion. And will, will you build upon it or we'll debate. But when you're interviewing somebody, you don't want to poison the question with your value proposition. You want it to be neutral. And you don't want to. want, for example, to provide them the answer in the question. Here's something Dana Bash did, okay? She said, in a leading question, as you would hear in a court trial, to Kamala Harris, what was the question? It was, why did you, why did you change your position? I think it was

one of the ones she was asking about why have you changed your position on certain issues. And then she provided to give her a couple options as the answer. I wish I had that clip, or I wish I had that direct quote him from me, but it was stark. Like, she gave her two options in the question for what Kamala Harris could pick as an answer. And of course, Kamala picks one of the options. I remember her answer, by the way, on why she switched positions. She said, my values have always remained the same.

And, I mean, that's not an answer. What does that mean? The follow-up is, what are your values? And then you have to dig into, well, you've said these things like about equity. That sounds Marxist. Are these your values? Are you flipping positions? because your positions have remained the same,

but you're saying your values have. Are you flipping positions to get elected? Are you flipping positions because you believe something new? But Dana Bash provided her the answer. Even worse, she asked Kamala Harris about covering up. That's one of the suggestions. On Thursday show, I gave you four crucial questions

that need to be asked. One of them is, what role did you have in covering up for Donald, for Joe Biden, and his senility? And she said, but the question was, do you regret standing by his side through that questioning of his mental capacity? And Kamala Harris spun it. I don't regret serving with Joe Biden.

Like it was a complete spin and Dana Bash didn't follow it up. So my point is the media participates in keeping her a blank slate through that time, not ever revealing those values and how far left she is. Second, who is Kamala Harris? Can she hold out for two more months? Well, she's an incumbent president, a vice president. Same administration, Biden-Harris administration. I mean, the current president, by the way,

who's been on the beach for 17 days. He's back now. During which time, by the way, Hamas executed six hostages, including one American during that time. Just an embarrassment. No, not an embarrassment. A shame, a tragedy for America

under the Biden-Harris administration. So I think their new slogan is a new path forward. How can it be a new path forward? How can Ben Stiller, Hollywood celebrities say, it's time for a change When this is the person who's been in office for four years But only if she can stay in this bubble for two more months And then finally, I was at breakfast this morning with some guys And I said, look, even beyond how far left she is, even though these things

What I think animates voters Understand that they ride along the surface of the river Is this? Is she fake? Is she a phony? I think women are by the way going to react to the answer to this question strongly they did with Hillary Clinton so when she's flip-flopping when she's a different person in different places does she come across as a phony I think that is so impactful here I actually think this is really impactful have you seen this she was in Detroit once you listen to her accent in Detroit and in her accent in a few other places she's got

a lot of accents listen you better thank a union member for sick leave you better thank a union member for paid leave you better thank a union member for vacation time and you all helped us win in 2020 and we're going to do it again in 2024 you know the one thing about all of us is we like hard work hard work is good work hard work is good work do i see people testify it can i get a witness it ain't over with us in government we can't campaign with the plan, uppercase T, uppercase P, the plan. And then the environment is such that we're expected to defend the plan. There you go.

Atlanta, Detroit, a black accent in front of black audiences, a different accent five hours later when she's in Pennsylvania. We've got to break them down and figure out what we can hear in each one of those accents. How many different accents does she have? but the important point is beyond the comedy of it is she phony people already believe what they believe about donald trump the big story last week on cnnon was about him at arlington national cemetery whether or not he had permission from the army and whether or not there was an altercation with the army and in response gold star families said he was invited with us to arlington national cemetery the gold star families that's families who've lost their sons their spouses in war

invited donald trump they say they invited also harris Biden and didn't hear back. Harrison Biden deny there was ever that invitation. But the point is that story which ran CNN. That's about how people feel about Donald Trump. And people already feel the way they're going to feel about Donald Trump. The question is to do, are they animated to go vote against Donald Trump? They couldn't with Joe Biden. They shouldn't in my estimation with Kamala Harris. But can she remain blah for 63 more days until 11? Election Day. Let's break this down, plus the now open call to suspend the Constitution from the pages of the New York Times with Professor Gadsat next on the Will Cain Show.

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Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com. Or wherever you download podcasts. At some point, I think you have to take them at their own words. Robert Reich says we should arrest Elon Musk. Brazil outlaws Twitter. Kamala Harris and Tim Walts in their past have said they do not believe in free speech. And now in the pages of the New York Times, they ask, is the Constitution dangerous? It's the Will Kane show streaming live at foxnews.com. On the Fox News YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page right now, comments streaming in on Facebook, on YouTube.

jump in to the Will Kane Show. Hit subscribe at Apple, Spotify, or on YouTube. He is the author of The Parasitic Mind. He is Professor Gadzad. He's a friend here of the Will Kane Show, and these are some of our deepest conversations. And I love having him here. What's up, Professor?

Hey, how you doing? So good to be with you. It's good to be with you. You know, you often are very active on X. You're also, what I would say is one of the people who are in the, influencer circle of Elon Musk. What do you think now that people are, A, in America, calling for the arrest of Elon Musk, that's Robert Reich. I believe he was Labor Secretary under Clinton.

And we're watching Brazil basically outlaw X. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Look, and I've talked about the distinction between deontological and consequentialist ethics. So let me break it down for you, because it will be relevant to your question. Deontological ethics are absolute statements. So, for example, if I say it is never okay to lie, that would be a deontological statement. If I say it's okay to lie to spare someone's feelings, then that would be a consequentialist statement.

Now, for many things, we're all consequentialism. And that makes perfect sense. But when it comes to foundational values that define the West, those things have to be deontological. So you can't say, I believe in freedom of speech, but not for Elon Musk or Donald Trump. I believe in presumption of innocence, but not for Brett Kavanaugh. I believe in journalistic integrity, but not when it came to Hunter Biden's laptop.

Once you apply a consequentialist ethic to the ontological position, you get the kinds of problems that we're seeing today. So the interesting thing in part about what you had to say is we are all consequentialist to some point. And if we're all being honest and we look in the mirror, it is difficult to be principled. Meaning we all can give voice to principles, but living according to principle is very difficult. That's the challenge of life, to be a moral person. When you hear, and I'm going to read two of these, Abigail Schreier has this up in the free pass up.

They've revisited it. Now, these are quotes from like, this is going to be 2020, I believe, for Kamala Harris, where she openly advocated for shutting down X. And she did it on multiple occasions. I think it was two or three different occasions. I think once from a debate stage, once with CNN's Jake Tapper, she openly called for for shutting down X. And then Tim Walt's famous statement, now his is from 2022, was that free speech does not cover misinformation and disinformation. When you hear something like that from the two people running for president and vice president, the question I think is, what do they believe and what would they do?

right so are they consequentialists i guess everybody is like they don't believe in a principle against free speech they just want to apply it when it's in their favor and not apply it when it's in their disfavor so i guess the question would be what would the yeah go ahead no i got you uh sorry interrupt you that's right they're being consequentialists so what would they be in an administration when it comes to free speech well look uh i am jewish i grew up in very difficult circumstances in the Middle East. We faced execution. My parents were kidnapped by Fatah, so we've seen it all in terms of actual victimhood. And yet I support the right of Holocaust deniers to spew the worst offensive and insulting speeches, right? What could be more offensive and what could be more

misinformation than to deny a historically documented event whereby six million people were, you know, extinguished on an industrial scale level. But in a free society, you have to tolerate imbeciles, racists, falsehood spreaders, and so on. So that's how you walk to walk and talk to talk, right? If I, a Jewish person with my personal history, I'm willing to tolerate Holocaust deniers, then Tim Walts and Kamala Harris don't have much of a ethical position to stand on. But again, the reason why they do that is because they must find some consequentialist calculus to explain why they need to shut you down, right? Don't say that COVID is lab leak because that's misinformation.

Don't say whatever, that the hunter by the laptop was real because then that would allow Donald Trump to ascend for a second term. One person's truth is another person's misinformation. So for example, can men menstruate or only women menstruate? Which is the disinformation position, right? So again, there is no such thing as forbidden knowledge in science, precisely because as long as you adhere to the scientific

method, all bets are off. You pursue truth unencumbered by consequentialist ethos. So I think what these two are doing is exactly what Orwell warned us against. Maybe it's even worse than what Orwell thought. Well, if anybody questioned his intellect, just, I've been walking around the world saying minstrate, and he just taught us very clearly it's minstruate, that there's a year. It's not administrate. Just a hick from Texas. Also, we have this information. Like, the whole thing, like, what would they do?

Well, they've done it. Like, they did it in the Biden administration. We know what they did to suppress free speech. It wasn't just calls to arrest Elon Musk or whatever it may be. And one of the big leaders, I was just trying to look this up. So I had this name while I was talking to you. His name is Rob Flaherty. Rob Flaherty was one of the people who was integral to the whole disinformation

campaign in the Biden administration, punishing, identifying, you know, limiting free speech. You know, okay, well, you know, Rob Flaherty. He's one of the guys, for example, officials, I'm reading from Abigail Shry and the Free Pest, who reportedly pressured Facebook into censorship with the then-director of Biden's digital strategy, Rob Flaherty. And who is Rob Flaherty now? Well, he is the deputy campaign manager for Kamala Harris. It's not as though this was a moment in time with COVID.

moment in time with 2020 election skepticism. This is someone who has benefited, been promoted in a leadership position for the person now running for president, Kamala Harris. Right. I mean, we know what Kamala Harris thinks about the espousing of positions that are unpopular according to her calculus, right? You saw the clip that's been going around recently where she said, you know, you can't allow people to just spew whatever they want without any controls or oversight. I mean, uttering those words should be enough to disqualify you as president of the United States. But yet again, because we now are so inundated with this consequentialist ethos, people don't even bat an eye. I mean, what could be more dangerous than to say things like there has to be oversight over what people say?

There has to be equality in the outcomes. As you said in your wonderful monologue, that's exactly what Marxism is. By the way, let me give you a great quote, which I don't think I've ever mentioned to you in our previous conversations. E.O. Wilson, the famous evolutionary biologist from Harvard, who recently passed away, he studied social ants. Now, in social ants species, there's only one reproductive queen, and then all of the other ants are exactly equal, whether they are worker ants or soldier ants, right? So, ant society is communistic. So when he was asked, Professor Wilson, what do you think about socialism, communism? his answer was, great idea, wrong species.

Human beings are not communistic in their innate human nature. Some of us are taller, shorter, harder working, less hardworking. So to impose an end result of equality of outcomes on human beings is to literally be anti-human nature. So not only is it called Marxism, it defies evolutionary principles. It's very dangerous, and I hope that my neighbors to the South make the right decision on November 5th. Talking to Professor Gad's ad here. By the way, the author of the parasitic mind, you got a new book I believe that you're working on, right?

I am working on a book called Suicidal Empathy. And if I can just mention because I want to promote my latest affiliation, I just accepted a visiting professorship and global ambassadorship in your country at Northwood University. the free enterprise university. So I'm very excited to be spending a year there. Oh, that's, oh, yeah, awesome. Cool. Well, and you also did a paper. You've already, you've already done one paper on suicidal empathy.

It's up for your subscribers. I saw on your ex. Now, I'm fascinated by this idea of suicidal empathy. And I was looking at some of the things you've had to say about it. All I really know so far is those two words juxtaposed against each other, empathy and suicide. However, you know something I've always, I don't know, who can claim they've discovered any idea for themselves.

But like one of the things, one of the pieces of wisdom I feel like I've acquired with some age, professor, is that I've learned through children and through myself, your greatest strength is your greatest weakness. In that trait, whatever that trait may be that makes you special is also that trait that is your downfall.

And so it's like management of that trait is your life's mission. So when I was thinking about suicidal empathy, Ray Dalio, big thinker, he tweeted this out, something similar. He said, like, attributes, people have individual attributes. Whether or not they are a strength or a weakness depends upon their application. And obviously, application is circumstantial. And I just started thinking about that when it comes to you and the idea of empathy.

Empathy is treated as a virtue. But modern society has made it abundantly clear how empathy can be a vice. Yes, so let me explain this in a couple of ways, but thank you for the lead-up. Just a small correction on my subscriber-exclusive content, I shared a paper by someone else on empathy, not my own. It was part of the research I'm doing for my book on suicidal empathy, but thank you for that plug. So in the fact truth about happiness, my last book, my happiness book, I talk about the inverted you being the most universal law of nature. Inverted you basically means too little of something is not good. Too much of something is not good.

It's exactly what Aristotle called the golden mean, right? He argued, look, if you are a cowardly soldier, that's not good. If you are incredibly reckless in your risk-taking, you're going to die and you're going to be a useless martyr. That's not good. Everything happens in the sweet spot, everything in moderation, as the ancient Greek said, right? So that exactly applies to your point about personality traits. perfectionism, for example, if you're not in the least bit perfectionist, your work will suffer

because you won't have attention to detail. You won't be conscientious. If you're too perfectionist as I am, you'll end up checking your galley proofs 45,000 times. God forbid, there might be one comma out of place, and that's counterproductive. What if there is a comma out of place? You could have spent your time doing something else. Again, it's in the sweet spot. So now let's come to empathy. Empathy is noble as a virtue, because we're a social. species. Therefore, we have to have theory of mind. We have to put ourselves in the mind of another. We have to put ourselves in the shoes of another. And therefore, our emotional system has evolved because it confers upon us certain evolutionary advantages, but it has to be invoked

within certain functional ranges, right? So take, for example, OCD, and I'll come back to empathy in a second. OCD is the misfiring of an otherwise adaptive process. And let me explain what I mean by that. It is perfectly adaptive for us to scan the world for environmental threats. I check the back door to make sure that it's locked, but I only check it once. I wash my hands when I come home once to make sure that if I shook hands with anybody who had a virus, I don't get contaminated. What happens with OCD? That adaptive mechanism misfires, right? As soon as the warning flag goes up and you tend to it, it goes back up again. So I spend eight hours washing my hands and scolding hot water, and my skin is falling off. That's germ contamination

OCD. I keep checking the back door for four hours, even though one time would have been enough. So now let's apply that mechanism to empathy. It doesn't make sense that you be so suicidally empathetic so that as a means of demonstrating how virtuous you are, you literally kill your society, right? So if you target your empathy to the wrong person, Guatemalans who come in illegally are more worthy of our empathy than our own American vets. The homeless people who are defecating and fornicating in the children's parks are more valuable than the children who should be able to play in those sparks void of that stimulus, right? And so what the book is about is what starts off as a noble emotion

becomes quite dysfunctional when it's disregulated. So that's the point of the book. But is that real empathy? Because when I see that, I totally agree with, you know, the moderate mean or whatever is too much of any one thing is bad. Moderation is the key. But I also question, well, not that's real empathy. So you talked about it in terms of like you're projecting virtue.

But if it's about you and your image or even your self-image, and that's the reason you're adopting a position, and by the way, that's usually the extent of the commitment adopting a position. It rarely is accompanied by action, although some people are empathetic and employ that in their life. But if it's about you adopting a position and you are doing it as part of your self-projection, is that even really empathy? Yeah, that's a great question. So in my first book ever, this one, an academic book,

The Evolutionary Basis of Consumption, I talk about altruism and why altruism has evolved. And I argue that the Jewish philosopher Maimonides, nearly 1,000 years ago, talked about eight levels of altruistic piety. The highest level, to your point, is when the altruist and the beneficiary of the altruistic act don't know one another. because then they can't reap the social rewards of having committed that altruistic act. So you're exactly right that even when we call something supposedly empathetic, oftentimes it's full empathy that is only serving as virtue signaling currency. But nonetheless, if you ask those people, why are you holding those positions?

They'll say because all refugees are welcome, because no human is illegal. So we can debate as to whether they truly are feeling that empathy or whether it is full empathy to gain social currency. But the reality is that it is a dysfunctional application of empathy, right? There is no logical reason why you should allow entry into your host society of millions of people who don't share a single one of your foundational values, right? So, for example, in Germany and in Denmark and in Sweden and in France and in Britain, certainly now in Canada, it's coming for you in the U.S. You have people that are coming from countries where there is orgiastic Jew hatred, where, for example, in Pew Survey research, 95 to 99% of the surveyed people from those societies

have endemic Jew hatred as part of their self-identity. So then it's not going to be surprising that you have rampant anti-Semitism on campuses. Demography is destiny, and people shake their heads. Why do we have increased Jew hatred? Well, import those values, and there are downstream effects. Right. One more philosophical question before I kind of go back to the application to maybe current events for politics. So, you know, you talked about the hierarchy of altruism.

the different levels of altruism. It kind of made me think, does it matter, though? Like, if you do something good and you claim reward for it, you claim some social credibility for doing something good versus the guy who remains totally anonymous.

And we do kind of internally know we all give a little more respect to the person that we don't even know, the presumption of anonymity out there. But does it matter if they're both effectuating a good? Like, they're doing something? And then let's use Donald Trump because I think Donald Trump's a great example.

Like if Donald Trump does something good, he's probably going to tell you about it, you know, versus the guy who remains anonymous, does it matter if the outcome's the same? Yeah, so again, that's a great question. I talk about this, again, in my first book ever, the evolutionary basis of consumption, I talk about philanthropy as a costly signal, meaning that when we engage in philanthropic acts, we typically engage in these acts because we want to have then advertised. It's the Will Kane Oncology Center. It's rarely ever the X, X, X, X, X, X, Anonymous Oncology Center, right?

And incidentally, to your point, even when people supposedly engage in anonymous, altruistic acts, believe me, their inner circles, the people who matter to them will know that they did this act, right? So even though Will Kane may not know that I gave $100 million to cancer research, I'll be sure to tell all of my billion. friends, what a wonderful guy am. And that's exactly why Maimonides, a thousand years ago, said that it is almost impossible to reach this highest level of sedaka. That's the Hebrew word, of this kind of such pure piety, because we're human beings. We care about our social standing. And one of the ways that I ascend the social standing is to show what a good guy I am. That's just part of human nature. And either way, in either way, there's an oncology center. So I'm not sure. And I'm not sure it matters.

But I do think there's a distinction between that action and those that simply adopt a position to project virtue of empathy. One more, okay, where you and I are having this conversation? And I know, and I think probably a lot of listeners and viewers would be able to pick up where you are, although you are unpredictable and you're not cracker jackbox politics, where a lot of your leanings might be. And people certainly know where mine are. So we're having this conversation about consequentialism. and we're doing it through a lot of the positions which now have become championed positions of the left like free speech and we're going to come back in a minute to the Constitution

but Donald Trump is famously pragmatic okay is pragmatism not a more acceptable word for consequentialism so in other words um you know Donald Trump will make a deal he'll understand I not I'm not running on some hardcore pro-life position if I can't get elected. Donald Trump will make pragmatic slash consequentialist decisions. So in that way, I mean, you can say, well, and I think this is where you are going to go, but on foundational values like free speech, that's not the place to be consequential. That's exactly it. So let's apply what you just mentioned to say academia, right?

So some people would say we absolutely should have an ethos of forbidden knowledge. certain areas that you should never study because the consequences of finding out those things would be too hurtful or too dangerous, right? So don't do racial differences in IQ studies, even though you may properly apply, honestly apply the scientific method because if the results come out in a way that are difficult for the politically correct narrative, well, then some group will be marginalized. Don't study sex differences. or study sex differences as long as women are always shown to be superior on every task that's ever studied. God forbid a million times, men are shown to be superior on some

task. Please make sure to hide that data in your file drawer because otherwise you're part of the patriarchy. No. Academia, the pursuit of truth, has to be unencumbered by consequentialist calculations. Because if we apply that, then we should have never studied ballistics and physics because that led to the dropping of the atomic bomb. So we absolutely need to cancel physics because there are simply too many nefarious consequences of understanding physics. By the way, in the parasitic mind, many of the parasitic idea pathogens that I discuss stemmed from that reflex. So for example, social scientists have spent the last 100 years developing the disciplines of anthropology and sociology and economics without any biological underpinnings

because some really imbecilic academics thought that biology is simply too dangerous to apply to the human condition. Eugenicists used it to justify their cause. Hitler used it to justify, hey, there's a natural struggle between the races. We're the Aryans. Sorry, Jews, you lost. British social class applied social Darwinism to say, hey, we're the upper class. If you die from tuberculosis in your squalor, hey, that's just Darwinian. So let's now create a worldview where biology ceases to matter for human behavior because at least we're being noble. Or as Plato said, the noble lie, right? No. When it comes to the truth, not a single millimeter is ever seeded.

Well, but that's not the case, right? Like, what you just described, I would think we were at the apex of the moral truth. We're at the apex of all those things you just described. We are not studying those. Those are off the map. You do not learn more on those subjects. Today, we are probably at the apex of that ignorance. Exactly.

By the way, that's how I originally, you know, I often say that writing the parasitic mind was really a 30-year journey. I mean, starting from when I was in the Lebanese Civil War, but I've been a professor now for, this is my 31st year, when I was first trying to Darwinize the business school, what do I mean by that? Applying evolutionary biology and evolutionary psychology to study economic decision-making, consumer behavior, personnel psychology.

All of my colleagues were, what the hell is this? Biology doesn't apply to human behavior, and I'm thinking, how could it not apply to human behavior? You think biology applies to every single species except one called Homo sapiens. And so that's when I started realizing that Houston, we have a problem, right? Even very intelligent professors

with many titles before and after their names could be completely lobotomized. And it's interesting when you describe that. That's actually a little bit of what's been discussed when it comes to artificial intelligence. Like you talked about with physics and ballistics and leading to the atomic bomb. people are saying this this AI thing is scary we got to stop we got to figure out a way for it not to

continue as a field of study right uh i mean there are two sides to the ai story some say that you know the robots are going to kill us in 15 minutes once they're strong enough others say that's complete science fiction hype so i i'm not going to weigh in on you know who's right but it's the same reflex right it's basically saying don't pursue some truth because the consequences of that truth will simply be too harmful. By the way, you may or may not remember this, and if your viewers haven't watched it, they should, the movie, the name of the rose in the mid-80s

that came out with, do you know it, Will? Do you know the movie that I'm talking about? No. Name of the Rose. Never heard of it. Name of the Rose. It's with Christian Slater and Sean Connery. Sean Connery plays a monk,

I think a Gregorian monk who, this is in the Dark Ages. All of these monks are dying from a poison, and their tongues are blue. And he's wondering, how did they die from that? And it turns out, just so I can fast forward, that the head monk had placed some Aristotle books dealing with humor in a forbidden library because he didn't want the monks to read any book on humor

because humor is the work of the devil. But what they were doing, and so he had laced the bottom of the pages with a poison so that if a monk actually went in there and read the forbidden books, then he would be poison and get killed. That's the reflex of forbidden knowledge. I decide what you can read,

what you could think, what you can say. And that's why I quoted that book in the parasitic mind. And that's exactly what Kamala Harris is doing. She is the head monk. I love that. I love that analogy.

Kamala Harris is the head monk. When you say, I decide, it's always, who's I? Who is the all-seeing, all-knowing, all-powerful decider of knowledge? And yeah, Kamala Harris is putting herself in the position of the head monk. So that takes me to the final thing here.

I'm not shocked. And by the way, maybe in the spirit of you should never put any information or knowledge off the table. You should consider all perspective and all types of human thought. Maybe I shouldn't criticize the New York Times for publishing this, which is in, it's an opinion piece. I don't know who this person is. Jennifer Sazali, Sazali, I don't know who that is. you may maybe she's in academia uh she's a non-fiction book critic uh so maybe not quite as esteemed as a professor but the headline is the constitution is sacred is it also dangerous and the sub that

is one of the biggest threats to america's politics might be the country's founding document for something like i'd say a thousand words she goes on to talk about the constitution it's shocking for me or well as somebody who did study the law and i know you're canadian and the constitution is uniquely american uh for me it is a sacred sacred document it is accumulation of i think centuries of knowledge um but the whole point of the constitution is to thwart authoritarianism like it is it's a separation of power it's checks imbalances it certain rights are not subjected to democracy yes democracy meaning a protection of a minority and she spends this whole thing or wellingly to twisting language to say yes it's

perverts democracy but in the protection of authoritarianism and to me well now we're talking about free speech or whatever. Increasingly, this is the end game. It's not the end game. Maybe it's the final hurdle to the end game, but the suspension of the constitution. Indeed. Look, in the parasitic mind, I have a quote, which I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, but I don't have in front of me. The Reagan quote where he basically says that every generation you have to be assiduous in defending freedom because every generation, there are new folks who are trying to kill freedom, right? And so therefore you can't assume that it's going to be the default value forever more that you're going to have the freedoms and liberties that you take for granted. To that point, one of the reasons why

some of the stanchest defenders of the Constitution, and to your point, I'm Canadian, yet frankly, I should be granted American citizenship yesterday. The reason why immigrants are some of the stanchest defenders of the Constitution and of the Western tradition is because we've sampled from the buffet of societies out there. And we know that the American experience is a bleep in history. It's an anomaly. It's a miraculous anomaly. But that's not the default value. The default value is for head monk Kamala to tell the rest of us how to dress, when to talk, when to eat, what to put in our bodies. That's the way societies have organized themselves since time and memorial. So it breaks my heart to see someone like this woman. I don't know who she is who has

benefited from all those freedoms where people like me came and knocked on the door and said, please let us in. They're about to kill us. And she doesn't appreciate what she's got, what she has. What a shame. Well, the other thing, the one other thing I'll explore with you here that I find fascinating. I'm sort of just freelancing this thought with you, which is always dangerous. but the Constitution is absolutely a subversion of democracy. When I say subversion, that makes it seem like it's secretive. It's not. It's overt.

It is a document that says these certain rights will not be subjected to a majority vote. And that's why it's a projecting of minority. So 51% can't decide to set aside freedom of speech. It's not going to happen because the United States Constitution. And a pure democracy, it is pure power. You talked about the singular head monk, but it's also like tribal power. And that's how a lot of societies work, especially in third world countries. It's like, whoever is the majority power, doesn't always mean by numbers, because it often means by force, they dictate the terms of society over the minority.

And it makes me wonder, like, that is sort of where you're pushing this. Either A, you have the ultimate confidence that you will always be on the side of the 51% or, or you believe that somehow you'll be the one in power. And in that pursuit of power ultimately is brute. It's not at a voting booth. Like it is like, it gets violent. It always does get violent. And I just wonder with somebody like Jennifer Slazai, salli, do you think in a brute fight

for power, a violent fight for power, your side will be the victor? because I'm not so confident that the side that asked for no guns, gender fluidity, legalization of drugs is the one that wants to reduce this to a fight of brute violent power. Well, and listen, this kind of parasitic thinking that you're describing in this Jennifer lady is exactly why you have queers for Palestine, right? I mean, in what world does it make sense where if my, my most fundamental identity that I present to the world, which is, I'm queer. In what world would you then place all of your chips on the place that would put you through a 100% effective gravitation-based conversion method

by logging you off the building, as they do in Gaza for people who are queer, versus Tel Aviv, where you actually have one of the most queer-friendly places? I mean, short of New York, San Francisco and actually Montreal, my home city. Tel Aviv is probably right up there in the top five most queer-friendly places. And yet people say, no, no, no, I'm putting all my chips with the society that would, you know, throw me off rooftops. That's the kind of unbelievably myopic, parasitic thinking, quote thinking that I rail against all day.

But, you know, I don't want to end this on a pessimistic note. but it seems to me that no some of these folks are so impenetrable to reason to you i know that in your monologue you talked about using feelings rather than thought in in choosing your president well i talk about this in the parasitic mind right most people want to deploy fast and frugal ulyistics to make a decision right well my emotional system is much quicker it's autonomic right i love camela harris i hate donald trump thinking is so hard right it's so hard right it's so effortful, it's so cumbersome, best to simply use my emotional system. And I keep warning people, including my colleagues, you're trained as psychologists, use your brain, which policies are more

in line with your values? They go, no, but she's so positive, she's joyful, she's fun, I'm going with her, we need a change. They're impenetrable to reason. Yeah, my only hope in that monologue talking about the people that ride along the surface, you know, who will ultimately make that emotional decision is, and I don't, at this point, it's hard to find the undecided emotional reaction to Donald Trump. I think most people's emotional reaction has been defined to Donald Trump. So it's shocking to me that wherever they are, Pennsylvania, you know, Michigan, Wisconsin,

I guess we have to implore them to think. I don't know, I don't know how the emotions can be swayed at this point. You have to figure out how to think before, 63 days expires, and we have Election Day. I look forward to suicidal empathy. Thank you. I encourage everyone to check out parasitic mind and all his stuff. He's on X.

Gadzad, he's great. Professor Gadzad. Love having you on the Will Kane Show. Thanks, Professor. Thank you so much. Cheers. All right, take care. Really, really smart guy, really, really.

Forget smart. Overvalued adjective, wise, thoughtful, mind. All right, coming up. um college football my people one of the mysterious frontiers of america next on the will cane show following fox's initial donation to the kirk county flood relief fund our generous viewers have answered the call to action across all fox platforms and have helped raise seven million dollars visit go dot fox forward slash tx flood relief to support relief and rebuilding efforts Socialism takes away free speech and imprisonment for it.

It says Patty Monty on Facebook. Famous saying is you can vote your way into socialism. The only way out is through bullets to shoot your way out of socialism. That's the historical record. It's the Will Kane show. Streaming live at foxnews.com. On the Fox News Facebook page, as you just heard, with comments like that from Patty Monty,

more comments. just a minute here on the Will Kane show. Others as well from YouTube. James Moore, for example, says on YouTube, just vote on policies, not who you like or dislike. We were much better off when Trump was in office, says James Moore on YouTube. More of your comments here in just a moment on the Will Kane show. So in like two weeks, our boy, two a days, is going to get married. And I spent my weekend in Arkansas at a wedding. Now, I hadn't spent a lot of time in Arkansas. I've been to Arkansas. I think Arkansas is a forgotten state. And I'm not insulting you, Arkansas. I have a lot of complimentary things to say in just a moment about Arkansas. But don't

you think, like, you got Bill Clinton, but if you take somebody from like, well, you guys, you guys are northeasterners, two of a day's Connecticut, young establishment, James is New York, like I would bet when you were a kid filling out the map in school, you probably struggled with Arkansas you know how'd you know a blank map like which one which one is that I think it's one of the hardest states for your area of the world to remember like what's its story like what is it all about Arkansas am I right yeah the the whole mid mid mid east Midwest is um was a little bit hard for me as a Connecticut person to put together well it's a chef thing well the south too but you know everything over there you know the chef on the map that's the only ones I've really

knew where it all lines up the chef yeah you don't know that in north dakota south dakota exactly all the way down yeah that was where i was good everything else not good well the other interesting thing about arkansas is everybody in arkansas and i think they're a little bit forgotten these this what i'm about to mention everybody in arkansas is a fan of the razorbacks and i mean it's like it doesn't matter what school you go to you're a fan of the razor back It's not, there's not many states like that I feel like where there's no professional team and it does not, you know, if you're in Texas and you're a UT fan and you didn't go to UT in some capacity, you might be a Walmart fan. You know what I mean? Meaning you go to Walmart and get the UT gear because it's the biggest brand in the state. But that's different. Like in Arkansas, I almost feel like it's more acceptable. Yeah, I went to Hardin Simmons, but I'm a Razorback fan because that's what you are in Arkansas. and I'm like is Louisiana the only other state

I talked about this at the bar one night like I think everybody in Louisiana is a fan of LSU no matter where they went to school I don't know many other states like I don't know Minnesota maybe

because I can't think of a lot of competition up there your gopher fan or Nebraska I don't know yeah you're right probably everybody in Nebraska is a fan of the cornhuskers Wisconsin

anyway there's got to be some competition in wisconsin right at least you have the the brewers and the bucks you know um to to divide some attention but by the way university of arkansas beautiful beautiful and this is part i want to want to talk about the the mysterious frontier but real quick on the wedding my um my stepdad got up and i don't often call him my stepdad because he married my mom when I was in my 20s, you know, he's one of my very good friends in life, one of my best friends in life. He gave a speech. It was his daughter getting married. And there was a little turn of phrase in his speech after the wedding that I loved. And it was, it was a nothing throw away

two words. But it just, I don't know, it stuck with me. He was like, he was naming different people that played a role in his daughter's life. And he was talking about these people, this family, you know, this family. He talked about the in-laws. And he said, you know, and the Wilson's named a few. And then he just said, and I've gotten to know them and their people. I just loved that. And they're people. Because we all have people. You got to have people. It wasn't a dismissive. I forgot. I need to pluralize this. I can't remember everybody involved. It is, there is a community around you of people. And obviously family. And by the way, I don't think that has to be restrictive.

Meaning, there are people in your life who are almost family, who have seen you from when you were this big to when you were this big. And in a wedding, two days, you're going to see it. Like, that is such a moment. Like, you know, one of my kids said, everybody at that wedding was old. I'm like, well, yeah. But that's also because, I was just back to my hair being not gray. But that's because people either watched or helped raise you up.

you know what I mean in your community part of your people and I love that and I hope you know that you see that in a couple weeks like I hope you see your people as you get married to a days yeah I'm excited for that and by the way the growth of your people obviously yeah I'm excited about that the two come the coming together of friends family we have a I have a big extended family too so it's it's pretty great I have a lot of people in my life and I have a stepdad who I'm very close with two that my mom got married to in my 20s so I can relate to that as well so yeah it's pretty great got to have people yeah all right so I was with I was with um I was at the bar with my people and um it was just a good weekend to remember this like my people are not

big city people okay like I heard I'm on Fox and Friends this weekend Rachel must have called me country club again uh because I got some tweets about it uh but it's it's it's fine it's just very far from the truth my people are small town people my people are sherman texas center texas uh this had some some small town arkansas people kansas and my people they love college football and boy did we watch and talk college football on saturday and it's just i love it so much you've rarely i rarely get you're with your buddies when you watch college football but there's something about family in college football that I love even more because you have a representative from almost everything, you know, like I could give, um, as an 80 year old, my stepdad's dad, I was giving a hard time

of Baylor beating up on Tarleton State, you know, and, um, how nice Texas tech was to barely beat Abilene Christian. And it's just all weekend, that's all anybody's talking about is how their team did in week one of college football. And the answer for my team, and for some reason young James's team as well, I can't figure that out. Um, but my team is. for the Texas longhorns

really good really really good I mean the horns are looking I saw this written James the second string Texas would be a top 25 team now I know we get out over our skis and I know we're entitled as Longhorns fans

but the backups could be a top 25 team arch looked good arch arch looked amazing five for six for about 100 yards he's got a gun quick release

I mean rush a touchdown and it's like six or six or seven receivers deep I mean already lost the starting running back gonna be okay we're already playing with the second string running back I had two days

the best thing about Texas I was watching a little bit too is the star power that comes out to watch that game we got Beconahe down there you got Glenn Powell there for the new Twister movie people love Was Glenn Powell there?

Yeah, people love to come to those Texas games. I'll tell you what. Man, we got Michigan this weekend, week two. 12 p.m. Saturday. I feel really good, by the way. I feel confident. I don't like feeling confident, but I feel really confident.

All right, but I got to say about the mysterious frontier real quick. Back to Facebook. Faye Bailey Mariner says, after the debate, all we'll see is, just how incapable Kamala Harris really is. She talks in circles and still doesn't know what she stands for. Maybe Faye, I don't know. I think Trump has a difficult calculation in that debate, how aggressive to be.

I think it's very difficult because you can't be too difficult with a woman opponent. There's a threshold there where it starts to turn people off, but you also have to be aggressive enough to expose her and rattle her. I think she needs to be rattled, but that's a difficult needle to thread. Cindy Lou over on YouTube says, Can someone please tell me her policies, just one? Well, if I tell you what her policy is today, it might be different tomorrow. Sasha and Savisha on YouTube says she's an actress.

Eddie Avala on YouTube says the fact anyone takes her seriously is seriously frightening. And one step away says, It amazes me that she is ahead in the polls. How is that possible? Put a fork in America if she wins, her policies, if enacted, will be the nail in the coffin. Finally, Master Chief on YouTube says, hey, Will, who are the two Heisman Trophy winners

born and raised in Tyler, Texas? Two Heisman winners born and raised in Tyler, Texas. Well, one is easy. The Tyler Rose. Earl Campbell. Who is the other Heisman Trophy winner born and raised in Tyler, Texas? You guys look that up back in New York.

I'm going to go with... either Baker or Kyler. Don't tell me. Did you already say it? Baker? Wait. He's looking it up. He's looking it up. No, it's not. By the way, I have one.

Is it like an Oklahoma? I got an article. Oh. Is it Billy Sims? More recent. Is it more recent? Three, all right, I got an article here. Three football legends who can trace the routes to Tyler, Texas. The first one's Earl Campbell.

And then there's two other very recognizable names. One is in the league and one is on TV. I just saw it. One is in the league and one is on TV? Well, Pat Mahomes is from White House, Texas, which is outside of Tyler. And I don't know if that's who they're counting. Yeah, that was here they're counting. Are they counting Pat Mahomes?

But not a Heisman winner. They did count him as one of the three. So the other guy is the Heisman winner? The guy that's on TV? Yeah. Oh, you're telling me? Mm-hmm. I don't know.

Who is it? Should we just go for it, or more hence? Go for it. Johnny football. No, just go for it. Johnny Mansell. Johnny Mansell. Johnny Mansell is from Kerrville, Texas.

He's not from Tyler. Hold up. Well, this article is from... And someone in the chat that gave us that question is saying, Tyler, Texas. Yeah, it says his page says Tyler, Texas. Johnny Mansell. I'm looking at it right now. Well, he didn't go to high.

school there so maybe he was born and raised there before a move before he went to curville high school i'm pretty sure i have that right says his grandparents own a restaurant there i texted you one more comment by the way his grandparents own a restaurant roots we got someone in the chat that's watching the show that should be not all right tinfoil pat he's on vacation i don't know what he's doing in the comment section he's in the comment patrick hatton says make sure to clip that for next week. All right. I want to tell you, boys, about one of the most mysterious frontiers.

So I'm always attracted to frontiers. I don't know what it is. I thought about that a lot this weekend. Like, why am I attracted to frontiers? Is it because of where I'm from? Like, where I'm from in Texas is from what they call the cross timbers region. To the east of me is east Texas, to the west of me basically starts like rolling plains, ranch land.

I'm kind of right there on the edge. I don't think that's why. I love going to the beach. Always have Hawaii, California. I like staying on the beach and look out over the ocean. it like adventurous whatever is there the frontier but one of the frontier i when we drove to arkansas five hours you drive through oklahoma and Oklahoma may not be exactly what you picture it everywhere so eastern Oklahoma is kind of mountainous now when i say mountainous

we're talking about 1,500 feet so not big ones but something something as you're going through there and it's so this area was literally the frontier for so long meaning all right i drove through fort smith arkansas fort smith arkansas used to be where the u.s jurisdiction ended like that's where the judge was i can't remember the name of the judge but indian territory was directly to the west in eastern oklahoma by the way Oklahoma is 40% Indian territory today but nobody knows what that means if you go to Montana, South Dakota, New Mexico, you know when you're on an Indian reservation. You don't know necessarily,

except for the bingo parlors and casinos in Oklahoma, when you're on an Indian reservation. And as of five years ago, a Supreme Court case is basically to the same thing. Nobody knows. Like, who has jurisdiction? If you get arrested, who's in charge, Chalktaugh Nation or the state of Oklahoma,

it's a whole big deal. It's a big deal going on. And it adds to the mystery. Like, where am I? Am I in Chalktaugh Nation? or am I in Oklahoma? So this whole area, if you've ever seen the movie True Grit, this is what it's about, either one, John Wayne or Jeff Bridges.

It's about that judge sending U.S. Marshals out into Indian territory, out into these mountains, out into this area to bring back outlaws back to Arkansas for hanging or trial. And so it retains this mystery to this day. Some of the poorest areas in America, its crime rates are pretty high, but it's just, it still feels a little frontiery, which I love. And I would encourage you, there's a series on Paramount. It's by Tyler Sheridan who did Yellowstone called Lawman Bass Reeves. And Bass Reeves is a black U.S. Marshal, one of the most successful in history, who rode out from Fort Smith, Arkansas, and captured guys, brought them back.

And this is this little corner between where I grew up in Arkansas, and I just find it absolutely fascinating. And here's my biggest takeaway for you. That's what I said. I think we're constipated in our thought on like how and where to vacation and get away and go. When my wife now used to live in Texas, we're like, where should we go on an anniversary? We couldn't afford, and we end up going to Oklahoma City, what they call Bricktown. Well, there's a trail, a hiking trail in the Washington mountains that you can hike for 10 days. And I never thought growing up you had that kind of wilderness and mountains and a way to be a part of the world around you that is fascinating. And I know you guys have it up there because it is truly beautiful up there in Connecticut

and upstate New York. You have mountains and you have a lot to explore. And I think I was mad at myself that I hadn't done a better job of exploring and understanding where I live and where I grew up other than let's go to a Mavericks game. Let's go to a Cowboys game. You know what I'm saying? like the idea of entertainment becomes constipated eat watch sports movies it's like the world around you is full of history and natural beauty i don't know i just get every time i'm there i end up

on wikipedia anywhere and i see this i end up on wikipedia and i'm for you know it i'm knee-deep in history of outlaws and indians and robbers cave and i know but the point is this area isn't necessarily special. I think it's mysterious and frontier. That area is everywhere around you. It's in eastern Tennessee. It's in Alabama. It's in Connecticut. I just think the world in America is so much more fascinating if we just get out of the constipated way we think of living and entertaining ourselves in this world. Anyway, that's my big, deep thoughts from the weekend. Find your people. Go explore the mysterious world around you. And talk college football. That's going to do it for me today.

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