Will Cain Country - The Real Costs Of Elon Musk Leading DOGE, Plus Bridget Phetasy On Her Shift From The Left

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

Story #1: He's lost hundreds of billions of dollars and Tesla's stock is down 35% as Elon Musk tries to balance the budget of the United States government. So, what's driving Elon's involvement with ...the Trump administration? Will breaks down what he thinks are Elon's motivations.  Story #2: Congressman Thomas Massie (R-KY) looks like a 'no' vote for a spending vote in Congress. During the Trump administration, it looks like he is always a no vote. Is he principled or a troublemaker? That and more, including what led her shift from the Left, with Comedian Bridget Phetasy.  Story #3: A track runner whacks her opponent in the head with a baton, yet takes plays the victim. A conversation with Will & The Crew.  Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:29 Massey looks like a no vote for a spending bill in Congress. He's always a no vote. Is he principled or is he simply looking to grandstand? That and more with Bridget Fetacee. Three, track runner hits her competitor over the head with the metal baton. She cries, though, and claims she's the victim. But she faced criminal charges like Tony Stewart, Kermit Washington, Marty McSorven. It is the Will Cain Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page, always on demand, by subscribing at Apple or on Spotify.
Starting point is 00:02:22 We've got a big show coming up for you today. We have Bridget Fetasy, who is the host of Walk-In's welcome and dumpster fire. You often have heard her on the Joe Rogan experience. She's going to join us to talk about, among other things, Wendy Williams being held captive in an assisted living facility. Columbia protest organizer looking to be deported, having his green card revoked, is that a violation of free speech?
Starting point is 00:02:52 And is Congressman Thomas Massey, who's consistently a no vote, Republican, but won't vote. with the rest of the Republicans, an example of principle in action or a grandstander who raises money and stands in the way of actual progress in the United States. We'll debate all that and more coming up in just a bit with Bridget Fetasy. But I want to bring the guys in because they had a topic they wanted to discuss before we get into the stories of the day. So I'm going to turn the floor over to the fellas who in our pre-show call, made it clear they wanted to discuss. Bonnie Blue.
Starting point is 00:03:30 The flow of your, James. That is unfair. That is outrageous. That is absurd. And I'm pushing back against that immediately. You wouldn't stop talking about it. You wouldn't not stop talking about it. I did not learn who she was until last night.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And we have that in writing. We have it in writing. I said, who is lies? He's blushing so hard right now. That is a lie. And we all know it's a lie. And you want to talk about Bonnie Blue. And you had a lot of hot takes during the pre-show call.
Starting point is 00:03:55 And I have decided to give you the floor. this is your broadcasting moment. All the executives are listening, the audiences of rat attention, and everybody wants to know what the opinion of young establishment, James, is on Bonnie Blue.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I think it's definitely emblematic of just kind of where we've come as a culture. On one hand, there's just such rot and such insanity, but we've also talked about usually just there's a certain look to it where you'd think,
Starting point is 00:04:26 you know, she doesn't look like someone that would go down that path. And that's, I think, where the questions start to start to come. Let's give James a round of a ball. Everybody, come on now. Seriously, tinfoil, do it. Give him a round of applause because here's what happened right there. I absolutely set him up for failure. I made him give a take. He eventually jumped off the high dive. I thought he was just playing it safe and doing the Twitter thing of this is the rod of society. This is terrible. But he got to some authenticity when he said,
Starting point is 00:04:58 basically he thought Bonnie Blue was hot and so that's real that's real and he got to it and basically he tried to put it in HR management lingo but the whole thing is we all are sitting here going what is this woman doing and we can't reconcile it with the fact that she looks like the hottest girl in your high school she doesn't look like a porn star and yet she looks like the girl next door and that's the entire story that's the story for anyone who doesn't know what we're talking about Bonnie Blue is a viral only fan's star who is making her name and her way through the world's attention by sleeping with as many men of every different stripe as possible. Thousands in like 24-hour period, setting records, looking for Guinness Book of World Record, 12 hours, 1,000 men. She's visited a sister living facilities, and as we speak, I think she is somehow blazing a trail where many, many, many men have gone.
Starting point is 00:05:57 through cancun mexico but it does lead to an interesting psychological discussion beyond simply this being the rod of western civilization why do we all go huh she doesn't look like somebody who should be doing this it's like the mindset of every dude who's ever walked into a strip club you don't have to be a stripper like you could have been anything in this world i can save you i can save you there's that yes yes vodka tonic yes vodka tonic uh you uh you know this This is the mindset of every man, and it is just being played out on a grand scale with Bonnie Blue. But congratulations, James. I think you landed the plane both safely and with some element of authenticity.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And for that, I'm going to once more demand to give you a standing round of a block. Once I have like a certain amount of money in my pocket, I'll get a lot more blunt. But for now, I do rely on a paycheck. So I'm going to tow the line. Well, no, I want the vodka tonic, James. I want the one who's giving his take in between orders. You're probably more of a vodka Red Bull guy, but in between orders at, you know, the monkey bar. All right, we're going to leave it there.
Starting point is 00:07:09 That's the end of our discussion of Bonnie Blue. We had a lot to get into today, and let's start with what is motivating Elon Musk. Is it power? Is it fame? Is it principal? Story number one. Elon Musk, leading government spending cuts with Doge, has been the subject of almost every conversation in most segments on MSNBC. He seems to become the flag that everyone waives about the emerging oligarchy in the United States.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And for that, he's paid somewhat of a price. He says he's willing to pay that price. Yesterday, he's sat down with Fox businesses, Larry Cudlow, to talk about why it's so important for him to focus on Doge. But I think we're doing the right thing here. You know, there's been a tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the government. You know, when you're part of the government, you saw a lot of that. And it's, and there's been, you know, if you look at the Inspector General reports and the Government Accountability Office, there have been many audits that have pointed out
Starting point is 00:08:16 that there's tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the government. In fact, there was a report issued by the GAO, the Government Accountability Office, accountability office last year so during the Biden administration which estimated the federal government fraud to be half a trillion dollars so just because that's that's not a Trump administration thing it's a Biden administration thing so what we're trying to do is get that number down to a much smaller figure save money for the American taxpayer stop money being spent on things that are that I think very few taxpayers would agree make sense
Starting point is 00:08:53 Now, the conversation over on MSNBC is that Elon Musk is running not just an oligarchy, but he's become the flag bear of a kleptocracy. What can you steal out of the government? I think that is probably the consensus among, for example, the Brooklyn brunch crew. Two days, Dan, what would you say is the current approval rating of Elon Musk among the Brooklyn brunch crew? Not big fans. They all do drive Teslas, which is interesting. One of them, he even has a Tesla that has a sticker of the word Elon with it crossed out on his Tesla, which is interesting.
Starting point is 00:09:32 So they don't like it very much. And they thought he wasn't very heroic for the works he's putting in lately. It'll be interesting to see if they continue to drive Tesla. Because what we're watching happen across the country as we speak is, first of all, celebrities like Cheryl Crow selling their Tesla. She made a point of making a viral video about her Tesla being towed. way. On top of that, we've seen vandalism at various Tesla dealerships. We've seen Molotov cocktails on numerous occasions and numerous dealerships across several states being tossed into vehicles and onto lots. We've seen Tesla's vandalized on lots, spray painted with the
Starting point is 00:10:12 word Nazi. We've seen Tesla charging stations burned down across the country. Tesla has become public enemy number one. And it was, obviously, prior to that, a car that coded left. Now, I guess it, because of Elon Musk, codes right. So what's going to happen to Tesla? We've already know in some part. Take a look at the Tesla stock over the last, I'd say, two months. At one point, it was down almost 40%, 39.45% Tesla down to $229 a share. Elon Musk's net worth over time, the latest we saw back, I believe it was in December of 2024 billion. His net worth has continued to steadily climb. And in fact, from the point at which Donald Trump was elected to the point at which Donald Trump was inaugurated, he went up
Starting point is 00:11:12 from $380 billion to $440 billion. But with Tesla stock taking a 35% hit, 35 to 40% hit, you can imagine that net worth has gone down. And that leads to the question of what is driving Musk. Now, Donald Trump posted on Truth Social. He talked about this, and he praised Elon Musk. Donald Trump said to Republicans, conservatives, and great Americans, Elon Musk is putting it all on the line in order to help our nation.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And he's doing a fantastic job. But the radical left lunatics, as they often do, are trying to illegally and collusively boycott Tesla, one of the world's great automakers and Elon's baby in order to attack and do harm to Elon and everything he stands for. They tried to do it to me in 2024 presidential ballot box, but how did that work out? In any event, I'm going to buy a brand new Tesla tomorrow morning as a show of confidence and support for Elon Musk, truly great American. why should he be punished for putting his tremendous skills to work in order to help make America great Elon's company suffering is something that has been acknowledged in fact Larry Cudlow asked Elon about that hey what about all the time you're giving to Doge and what's happening to the stock of Tesla here listen to Musk talking to Larry Cudlow you're giving up your other stuff I mean what do you
Starting point is 00:12:35 how are you running your other businesses With great difficulty. Yeah, I mean. But there's no turning back, you're saying. I'm just here trying to make government more efficient, eliminate waste and fraud. And so far, we're making good progress. Tesla investors, shareholders asking where is Elon Musk? Bringing us back to our initial question,
Starting point is 00:13:12 what is driving Musk? Is the Brooklyn brunch crew right that he's gaming the system, looking for regulatory approval, trying to make it better for his businesses like SpaceX? Is MSNBC right that he's run a kleptocracy that's going to increase his net worth over time? Or does he have some other motivation?
Starting point is 00:13:32 We used to play a game when I was in law school. Let's play this game now. I'll ask you guys. We'll go around the horn really quickly. We'll start with young. establishment. James, he's 25. I think he's the right age to be asking this question. James, would you rather be rich, famous, or powerful? Oh. Well, if you're powerful, you get the other two.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Possibly. There are people that exist within the shadows. Rich is nice because you have to pick one. Rich is fun. Fame. Fame's probably the worst of the three. But rich can get boring real quick power at least probably provides the most meaning towards your life if done in the right ways so power i think um this is exactly what happened at the bar at uh the cloakroom in austin when i was in law school everybody went exactly through this the analysis you just heard from james i remember sitting at the bar at the cloak room which is just off the capital in austin it's where lobbyists and state legislators will go to have drinks at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:14:38 It's dark. It's beneath the street surface. And it's fun. I remember having this debate with my buddies. Two days, which do you pick? Power, fame, or wealth? Wealth. And I can be quiet and silent and off to my own thing.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Can golf? Yeah. That's it. Tinfoil. Power, fame, or wealth? Definitely wealth. So I think this is a fun little bar game, but I think it's also something we can use
Starting point is 00:15:06 to apply to Elon Musk. Musk. He has all the wealth that he could ever want. The idea that he wants to run a kleptocracy doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever. Now, I will admit, I have no idea what it feels like or what goes into acquiring that much wealth. People don't get wealthy by accident unless they are in the air business. They're in the business of inheriting wealth. They get wealthy by some amounts of greed, you know, and greed, and I'm not using that as a seven deadly sin. I am saying as an analysis, it is often a powerful motivation behind the scenes of what makes somebody wealthy, the desire to want more. So I can't rob that of any analysis of Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I don't know what it feels like to have a net worth of $380 billion. Does it mean a lot to you to take it to $4.40? I just think that there's some type of diminishing return, like terminal velocity. At some point, what's the difference, man? So I just can't. Imagine he's interested in more wealth that he's interested in a kleptocracy. In fact, I've read Walter Isaacson's book on Elon Musk. So of you, James. There's nothing in that book, no matter what he is attempting to accomplish, that ever suggests wealth drove him whatsoever. He wasn't trying to get rich with Tesla.
Starting point is 00:16:22 He wasn't trying to get rich with SpaceX. He wants to make the world electrical. He believed, to some extent, in climate change. He wants to put a man on Mars. He wants to change the world. so I can't believe he's driven by wealth. Then there is fame. I will tell you, I think he's a little bit attracted to fame.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I do. I think that he likes the stage at CPAC. I think that he likes the attention. Sheet on Twitter. I think he likes his profile on X. I don't know that Doge and making government cuts are necessary for him to accomplish fame. He's famous regardless. And he can do any number of things to accomplish.
Starting point is 00:17:02 accomplish fame. He doesn't have to make himself public enemy number one, although I do think he likes controversial fame. I think he's attracted to that idea. And then we get to power. I don't know how much more power there is in being an executive office appointee to the president of the United States and being his right-hand man than being the world's richest man. Bill Gates has flexed the power muscle pretty powerfully without having to stand at the overall. right hand of the president of the United States. In fact, I would say the opposite. It's an ego check to be Robin to Donald Trump's Batman. And so whether or not we're talking about wealth, fame, or power, I think I don't see these as motivations for Elon Musk and what he's doing
Starting point is 00:17:50 with Doge. What I really think you have to at some point consider when you look at the objective metrics and the sacrifices that he is making to his net worth, which may be meaningless, To the Tesla stock, which I would suggest you is probably more meaningful because it's robbing him of some sense of accomplishment, is that he's doing this out of principle. He's doing it because he believes in it. He's sacrificing. It's what he's done in everything that he's built so far.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I'm not here to sanctify lionize, build statues, or made any kind of saint out of Elon Musk. But I do think when you walk through the motivations and you look at the sacrifices, you look at the accomplishments you're looking at an individual that sees something very hard to accomplish, something that has
Starting point is 00:18:37 eluded the United States government for over half a century that is necessary for the long-term future of our country and he's willing to do what it takes in whatever it sacrifices for this greater goal of putting United States government
Starting point is 00:18:53 on sound financial footing. In fact, let's ask that of Bridget Fetacea. comedian, guest often on the Joe Rogan experience, host of her own programs like walk-ins welcome and the dumpster fire when we come back on the Will Cain show. Fox News Audio presents unsolved with James Patterson. Every crime tells the story, but some stories are left unfinished.
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Starting point is 00:20:39 Streaming live at foxnews.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Hit subscribe at Apple or on Spotify. Two days, you have one more potential piece of motivation that you want to offer up behind the scenes what's driving Elon Musk. Well, I just think he was attacked for so long by Democrats during the Biden administration and things
Starting point is 00:20:58 and about, you know, his motivations. So I think he wanted the opportunity to show them that they were kind of full of it, too. He wanted to show that there was, you know, they were attacking him while they should have been attacked themselves. And so I think it's a little bit of motivation to be like, hey, you know what, you're full of it. I want to show everyone out, everyone, everyone how full of it you are. There's definitely a personality type that likes that, that constant combat. that feels to me a little bit like bickering, but that's reductive.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Like, I mean, I'd have him on the show to tell him this. Like, I think Clay Travis enjoys it, like on Twitter, on X, all day long, posting and going back and forth. I don't. I just don't find it that enjoyable or productive for me. I think Elon Musk is a little more in the vein of Clay. I think he likes all of that. But that's reductive because I think he also likes
Starting point is 00:21:57 the big overarching fight you told me i can't you say that i'm evil watch me accomplish exactly what is act what is actually virtuous let's get into this and much more with the host of walkins welcome dumpster fire also beyond parody with bridget fetacy that's where you can find her on substack and she's also a calmest at the spectator you got enough bridget i mean good lord how many different things do i have to plug before i say hello i'm starting more too I have a problem. Yeah, I'm addicted to podcasts. I just like making stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:36 I like creating content. It's what I first moved to L.A. to do, and I have so many more ideas. So I feel very grateful to be able to do all the things I'm doing. And we live in this time where there aren't that many gatekeepers. And it wasn't always so easy to just start, have an idea and start it and start it. and feed the algorithm that's great i feel the same way um i have other ideas that i want to do but i'm but what i run out of is time uh time in in energy you know i love history i love history and i want to do something in history like i think it i haven't found yet the podcast that i love
Starting point is 00:23:18 and i've asked the audience to give me feedback and i've tried a bunch like that is both entertaining and enlightening when it comes to history i haven't found that so at some point i'm like maybe I just create that. I'm also open to suggestions if somebody has one and then I don't have to create it. But at some point, I just run into finite amounts of time. I have an idea for a history one. But it's more comedy-based.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And we've done kind of some joke episodes on dumpster fire. And it was because people get very freaked out in our news cycle. And it's basically what if the 24-hour news cycle existed through all of history? What would those? It would be so good. I want to make this. So we've made some of these episodes as like special dumpster fires,
Starting point is 00:24:04 but I would love to turn it into an actual podcast of like this day in 1712, but treat it like the 24 hour news cycle. Because things have always been with humanity. It's just perspective. You know, things have always been chaotic. We just didn't have as much access to all of this information. We had no idea it was going on in a village far away, let
Starting point is 00:24:29 alone on the other side of the world. So Anne Boleyn is beheaded by Henry the 8th. Here's how it was covered on CNN today. Here's how it was covered on MSNBC. Here's what Fox had to say about her traitorous betrayal of Henry the 8th. Well, if you want to make this, I'm down. We can pitch it to Fox. It would be fun. I think it sounds like a lot, a lot of fun. I don't know if you heard us talking before we brought you in. What do you think drives Elon Musk? Like there's back to the 24-hour news cycle and the differing, the differing viewpoints of him, depending on where you get your information, you could believe that he's a kleptocrat.
Starting point is 00:25:09 You could believe that he's a wannabe oligarch. You could believe that he's principled and making big sacrifices to actually put the United States back on sound footing financially. What do you think is driving Elon? I mean, aren't we all very complex? I really, it's interesting. I go back and forth on him because I think he's a very complex individual there are things that he does that I think are very principled
Starting point is 00:25:32 and then I think just yesterday on Twitter he was calling and I don't know forgive me if you covered this before I caught the second half of the end of this so he's called somebody a traitor for supporting Ukraine did you see this on Twitter and I'm like what are we doing what are we saying here he's a traitor for you you should still be allowed to say that who is i don't i don't i didn't know
Starting point is 00:25:58 what he meant by that that seemed kind of insane to me so sometimes it's he a traitor to russia like i wasn't exactly sure what he meant and i think um you're when you spend as much time you were talking about people battling on twitter and really loving it and i am like you i don't i love kind of watching Twitter, seeing, I love that I can see where everyone stands on an issue from left, right, center, libertarian very quickly. I don't enjoy the battle like some people do. And I think sometimes you can get caught up in those battles and you end up saying things you don't mean or sending out a tweet that's linked to a video that's not real. It's happening so quickly and you get caught up in that moment and you get you know flooded with all that dopamine and you make mistakes
Starting point is 00:26:56 those mistakes aren't as big a deal for someone like me someone like Elon I think he he should be I mean my feeling is there should be a little bit more pause when agitated or doubtful so he called it took me a moment in my memory to remember who he he did this to but it was senator Mark Kelly from Arizona, former astronaut. He called a traitor for, you know, continuing to vocally, and I'm sure in his voting record, support Ukraine. I have to be somewhat self-reflective and ask myself if this is actually intellectual what I'm about to say or if you are looking for justifications for being a fanboy. And I don't think I'm a fanboy, but, you know, at some point we all start cheering or cheering or booing these public figures.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I think that Elon has fallen into the same category as Donald Trump, which is take what he says seriously but not literally. They say that the big mistake for the left when it comes to Donald Trump is they did the opposite. They take what he says literally but not seriously. And so does Elon think that Mark Kelly is a traitor? Does he think he should be tried for treason? Or is he making a less literal point about this sort of idea that you're supporting the independence and democracy of someone else
Starting point is 00:28:19 at the cost of the priorities of America. I don't know, Bridget, if I am intellectualizing something that should not be intellectualized because you need to listen to him or if he has now become like a Donald Trump type of figure, which I think it is true. You should take him seriously, but not literally.
Starting point is 00:28:38 That's a good point. I hadn't really considered that he does have a tendency to be hyperbolic. And I think when you're a comedian, you that is a hill that I will die on. I always say die on your right to be hyperbolic. Don't necessarily die on the content of what you're being hyperbolic about. But as somebody who is now affecting policy and also is sleeping on the White House floor or whatever, why shouldn't I also take him somewhat seriously when he says these things and has people who are
Starting point is 00:29:15 getting into, you know, hopefully, cost-cutting measures for rooting out all of this waste in our government. So if, I don't know, that's a, this is the weird thing about the time we live in now where everything is entertainment. Because as everything's become entertainment, the average person is left saying, oh, am I supposed to take this literally?
Starting point is 00:29:40 Is this serious? Is this something he's just joking about? or is this something that will be policy? And then you just kind of give up and go, whatever. My, you know, my portfolio is down and giving up. I do think you're asking a lot of the audience to constantly parse between what is literal and what is serious. But I don't even know who that guy is.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I don't know who that guy is offline. Like, I've been around Trump in person, right? And is he the same guy that he is online? Kind of, but with nonverbal communication and tone and charm, it comes off much less stridently. It comes off much more comedically. You know, so I don't know who that guy is. It's like, you're a traitor, you know, in the real world and how that comes off versus the way it comes off with three words typed out on X.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Right. Yeah. So I don't know. I think that, you know, there's there are things about him that I find really aspirational. Like when you see those rockets being caught and and blasting it, there's something very inspiring about this. We were just talking about this on Domster Fire in regards to AI. If we don't, if we don't start thinking about leaving the planet, we're all going to get cabin fever and self-destruct as as humanity. I think that we have to start.
Starting point is 00:31:11 dreaming big because AI is so exponential and it's going to take us places so quickly that we've got to start dreaming these bigger dreams. And I think guys like Elon know that. But then I think he's also a mercurial billionaire. I mean, I see how I am with just a modicum of power and even a little bit of money. So I can't imagine having all of the power and money and having to be, you know, somewhat self-disciplined. I think he also is a little bit, like has a little bit of oppositional defiance disorder. He's just a little bit contrarian or maybe a lot. And I also understand that as well like i understand all these instincts and they're just they're just um you know poured with gasoline and on on fire compared to even if i evaluate them in myself take take this to the
Starting point is 00:32:09 exponential extreme i think that's a really smart analysis i also think to to your simple but wise point people are complex like as you started to describe him as this like you and i have no idea what it's like to have that much wealth or power and what it would do to you as a person. We're not going to be able to reduce him simply into bad guy or good guy. Like, if you really want to be interesting, like, was Thanos a bad guy?
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yeah, I know, I know. I know. He wanted to kill half of the population, but did he have a goal in mind? Was it an evil goal? Was it out of good intentions? Was the evil empire and Star Wars? Were they actually the good guys? Like, you could step back and go,
Starting point is 00:32:51 everything is kind of complex if you give it a little bit of thought. yeah i i don't know i think there that feels like moral relativism though too that we get when and i feel like our culture is awash in that to a certain extent where it's getting increasingly hard to be like we don't actually have to hand it to thanos but i see your point i i do think am i guilty of moral relativism in considering thanos beyond a simple evil villain. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Maybe I am. All right, Bridget, five years ago today. Did you know that? This is the five-year anniversary today. I did know that. The world shutting down to COVID. Where were you, Bridget Fetasy? I was in Los Angeles,
Starting point is 00:33:44 and I knew it was coming. I had a feeling. I was very obsessed with what was going on in China in February. And my husband at the time thought I was losing my mind. And I was like, this is going to come everywhere. And he was like, you're out of your mind. And thought I was just being catastrophic. And he always jokes that he lacks my ability for catastrophic thinking.
Starting point is 00:34:09 But I, it was very strange. It was eerie. You know, I remember taking a walk with him and everything in Los Angeles to have everything that shut down. I do think collectively everybody just wants to forget about it because it was so traumatic for people for so many different reasons. And they've just a lot of people today was seeing a lot of just what we've learned and things that people were saying at the beginning. And even I was, I'm guilty of being like, yeah, what's the big deal? I mean, until we know more, you saw people being welded into their houses and Italy was really bad. and I was very wrong.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I've been saying sorry to my audience for approximately four and a half years. Because you took it so seriously, you're saying in the beginning, because you were what you felt like you were mongering fear? Yeah, I really underestimated. I learned my lesson. I mean, there were, I really underestimated how much a government will not get, I don't know why I just didn't I really had no idea that I'll never make this mistake again but when a government takes power like that they're not really willing to give it back and even getting it back
Starting point is 00:35:31 is incredibly difficult and people were saying that and I was like no they just they care about us they just want to slow things that two weeks to slow the spread I I truly believe that I thought that that was they had our best interests at heart and I thought that that was perhaps maybe what we do and now looking back I know I was I was really wrong and I'm still shocked yeah it was a big learning experience for me I did not have any idea that I would be locked down for like two years in Los Angeles more of the Will Kane show right after this Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy, host of the Trey Gowdy podcast. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together
Starting point is 00:36:22 and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at Fox News Podcast.com. From the Fox News Podcasts Network. Hey there, it's me. Kennedy, make sure to check out my podcast. Kennedy saves the world. It is five days a week, every week. Download and listen at Fox Newspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. So, can I say something?
Starting point is 00:36:48 Yeah. And it won't be personal. You're going to make that mistake again. I mean, the odds are that you didn't learn your lesson. You didn't learn your lesson. And we'll all make this mistake again because it's not, this is why it's not personal. See, my big takeaway from it is how fragile this entire thing is. Not just from governments, but society as a whole.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Like civilization is much more fragile. We think of it so enduring because it builds thousands of years. It takes thousands of years to build. But five years ago, it fell apart in, I think, three days. I remember I was in New York. So I was working, I think it was literally three days. I was working at ESPN, and I hosted a daily radio show then. And I remember on Wednesday, like you, I was keeping up with this story out of China.
Starting point is 00:37:34 And I had even talked about it. It was enough of a story that I was talking about it on sports radio. But it wasn't the everything story yet, right? And then it was Wednesday night. I believe it was after Rudy Gobert, then the Utah Jazz player touched all those microphones. Next thing you know, a bunch of reporters have COVID. Next thing you know, the NBA shuts down. I think that was on Wednesday night.
Starting point is 00:37:55 If my time line is exactly right, we continued to do our show then Thursday from South Street Seaport in New York City. And I remember, and time, by the way, is so expanded. It's three days, but it feels like it was like months. I remember riding the subway. Everybody stayed apart from each other. looked weird at each other. Masks weren't a thing, but we just kind of looked at each other, like, more skeptically
Starting point is 00:38:18 and further apart than you normally would on the New York City subway. We got into the studio, and everybody was super into, like, wiping stuff down and changing out this and that. So you didn't touch the thing that the previous host did. And then by Friday, we got to know, nobody's coming in. Everything is remote. And I would say by Saturday, that was our whole life. Like, that was our social life, our work life.
Starting point is 00:38:40 It was everything. So in three days, we went from, oh, look at this story coming out of China to literally society and civilization falling apart based upon fear. And all I'm saying is what I learned from that is this is all fragile and fear is the most powerful human motivator. It's not, I don't think it's greed. I don't think it's ambition. I think it's fear.
Starting point is 00:39:03 I think it's our base level instinct. Like when we get to the bottom, bottom, bottom of everything, fear. And so maybe it won't be a pandemic. You might have learned your lesson on a pandemic, but it could be something else. It could be nuclear war, alien invasion, something else where all of a sudden everybody in the world is saying, be very afraid. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's a really good point. I think that you're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And I also think what I didn't have that I do have now is a much greater fear of the government than I had. I don't think I was that afraid. And maybe this is coming from being a liberal my whole life. I just, I didn't have a healthy fear of government, big government. And I don't know why. I just took for granted that we lived in a democracy. And I thought if,
Starting point is 00:39:59 I also took for granted our institutions. I thought if information came out, like science showed that it was not really affecting the healthy, that it would, I took a lot of things for granted. And I think we're still seeing the effects of all of those things crumbling, really starting five years ago today. Very, very publicly. You describe yourself, you describe yourself then as a lefty.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Is this the beginning of your transformation? Oh, no, no. Is this the end of you being a lefty? Well, really, what started it? it was actually weirdly it I think when I really I've been writing a lot about this because I really want to process the last decade plus even but I think truly it was me too I think me too was the very beginning in in the crack which was 2013 2014 I started writing for Playboy in 2015 and then I started hearing for men all over America and realized that that the experience I was having and things that everyone around me were saying was very different from the experience that kind of the average red-blooded American male was having. And they were actually not doing well at all.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And nobody seemed to care. But they were struggling in all kinds of ways. And they would write me these long essays when I would put out questions about how they were doing. So that was the beginning. Again, it's been slow little trickles. I then had this audience from Playboy that was mostly male, and I was mouthing off about a school shooting on Twitter, and I realized I knew nothing about guns or the gun laws or could even hold a gun. And my audience rightfully pushed back. And that was another beginning of saying, wow, I have a lot of opinions for someone who knows absolutely nothing about this.
Starting point is 00:42:09 What else do I not know absolutely nothing about that I'm spouting my mouth off on or that I'm very confident about? And then 2015 happened. And there was a lot of hypocrisy from feminists, the way that they treated Melania, the way they talked about a violence. that bothered me. I said, I thought we were supposed to be kind of not judging women for the way they looked or wearing high heels or having blonde hair or whatever it might be. Why are we doing this to them when you've spent all of these years talking about how we shouldn't be judging Hillary for her ugly pantsuits? And then a lot of people in comedy kind of lost their minds around this time. And that was strange to me because we were, comedy is one of those things
Starting point is 00:42:57 where you're just, you're in the green room together. You're, you all share this bond of doing this thing that's completely insane and no one rational would do it. And you have to put up with public humiliation and rejection to even get good at it. You are, you all are kind of veterans of the same weird war. And in that moment, it became very divided in comedy. And that was, was very disorienting for me. And also just having him Trump, him being this joke and then overnight becoming literally Hitler was, I felt not accurate or fair. And then slowly it was a long journey to 2020 where even still, I, you know, I always talk about how it's my factory settings. Like you can't, I take it for granted, even 2020, like we were talking about, those default factory settings of the government, I didn't grow up with Reagan in my head of like, those are the worst words you ever want to hear is I'm the government and I'm here to help.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I grew up thinking the government was very helpful and that they were, they did care. And so even in 2020, more layers of that was revealed. and then with the racism is the new virus while we were locked down and then protests, that truly broke my brain. Kavanaugh broke my brain. Just so many, it's like been so many waves of it. Right. And yeah, here I am.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Just going on different shows and learning about conservative media, which I knew nothing about. It's been very, very eye-opening 10 years, actually. And then becoming a mom. I became a parent late in life and suddenly I always joke I couldn't be this you know sneering Gen X cool kid in the back being like oh are you guys who have to care about this stuff ha ha now I actually have to care about what they're teaching my kid in school so I loved every aspect of that story I truly did I love that entire arc I'm going to ask you
Starting point is 00:45:09 about one line though that is that wasn't important to the story, but I just find it interesting. So I want to dive here. In order to get good at comedy, you have to be able to go through the process of public humiliation and shame. That's a really hard thing to do. And not many professions require that journey. Like, I don't think Tom Brady had to go through a trial of public humiliation and shame. And I've met Brady. I'm a big fan. I'm a sports guy, right? But the truth is, that's not to say they're not. not trials and failure and all that in sports, there is. But literally people constantly telling you, you suck. You're not funny. You know, like every external thing in your world saying,
Starting point is 00:45:56 give up, quit, don't do this. You have to go through that tunnel to get good at it. I think I read an article too with Chris Rock once where he was describing this about how it's the only art form that you have to you you only get better by being by being bad publicly it's not like you can go sit in your room and learn how to play the guitar and then go out and try and play and keep getting better it's not like you can paint quietly or be a writer and then go public with your work i will not know if a bit is working until i do it many many times in front of many different audiences, and even then, you'll have a bit that works 90% of the time
Starting point is 00:46:43 and randomly you'll get in front of an audience and they are just not having you or it. And it's disorienting, especially when you're used to this bit being reliable. You know, that's what they say, like a tight five or a tight three or it's, you have it worked out, it's tight. You know that these are reliable jokes, but not always, even the reliable ones.
Starting point is 00:47:06 It's such a wild and crazy art form and medium, and it is so distinctly American. I think that's why I love it too. It's just such an American, you know, nobody can really stop you from saying anything once you get up there and grab that mic. Oh, that's interesting that it's uniquely American. And the reason that's interesting is, okay, I, I, of course, can come up with famous. British stand-ups Ricky Jervais
Starting point is 00:47:39 There's going to be a language barrier on me picking out any from Mexico, Spain, Italy or anywhere from the Middle East But I would assume They have their own stand-up comedy culture Right? Like I would assume Is there somebody really big in Poland
Starting point is 00:47:57 That I'm not aware of? You know, I'm sure there is So what makes it uniquely American? Well, I think it is an art form I could be completely wrong about this and it wouldn't be the first time. But I do believe that stand up was, it originates in America. Maybe somebody can fact check me. I thought that it was. Don't fact check it. Sounds true. Don't fact check it. Sounds true. Victory for America. I'm pretty sure it is an art form much like
Starting point is 00:48:24 yeah, I think I'm pretty sure that stand up in its very early iterations came from America and then went elsewhere into the world and now sure there are scenes everywhere else but as an art form I believe it began here because we have free speech okay speaking of that and let's tie this into your your journey and by the way when I when I've listened to you and I don't think of you is now and I don't think you would self-describe as somebody on the right but rather somebody who critical thinking has led you to lean in certain directions independently um which I think everybody would like to describe themselves that way. But I think it's fair when it comes to you, Bridget. There's this story about these protesters. Of course, we've been doing this story for well
Starting point is 00:49:12 over a year now. These protesters on college campuses, notably Columbia, right? Pro-Palestinian protesters. And I think the protesters now, I think they're again taking place right now on the campus of Columbia. And there's one of the guys, or maybe the guy, who is the organizer behind it. His name is uh i think it's mohammed calil and he has uh he's algerian of palestinian origin and his the accusation is he's led activities aligned to hamas a designated terrorist organization so marco rubio has said that we will revoke the visas and green cards of hamas supporters in america so they can be deported on one hand you know i look at this two ways on one hand there's guys like glen greenwald who are going this is such a
Starting point is 00:50:02 a piece of hypocrisy from the American right from conservatives that you champion free speech but here is a guy whose speech you hate and you don't defend it that's the whole maxim right I hate what you have to say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it that was the idea of let Nazis march you know famous Supreme Court case you let the Nazis march um so here's this guy on the other hand you know I don't know what it means for I'll profess some ignorance here to the audience and you like on a green card how conditional are green cards but this guy has openly rooted for the downfall of Western civilization. He has said, it is my job. This is what I want to do. I want to bring down Western civilization, which to me pretty, pretty low bar
Starting point is 00:50:40 of maybe, maybe he doesn't belong in America. It's so this, this is a, I'm with you. I can see, I am, I can see it from all the perspectives. My, I guess I start with my gutton. Let's start with my, let's start, this is how I always evaluate all of these things. My, um, immediate knee-jerk reaction is kind of like Trump at a rally, I don't care, get him out of here. That's like you, just reading some of the things that whether he is, that's my, that's my got reaction, whether that's correct is now, now we get to the higher, more evolved thinking. I also am a free speech, absolutist. You should be able to say, I love Hamas, if you're an American citizen.
Starting point is 00:51:31 If you haven't done anything guilty, you haven't committed any crimes. Now, I don't know what the laws are when you are a green card holder. And it's not just like he has a green card. He is married to an American citizen and has a baby on the way in a month. So I think people want to be like, oh, this is just some guy in a green card. But he's also married to an American citizen, which I think is a different kind of green card too, rather than just like a working visa or whatever. So, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I also understand the argument that people on the right who are in Europe are making, which is well, or viewing Europe saying, look at what happened over there, letting people who fundamentally want to see the destruction of your society. society. Do we have more tolerance for people who are naturalized Americans for doing that than people who come into the country? I feel like that's not unfair. It's not unfair to say. If you want to be here, you probably shouldn't want to destroy America. I also get very uncomfortable with the government at large being interested in this kind of issue, because as we talked about before, I no longer have any faith or trust in the government. And this
Starting point is 00:53:07 seems like it could be a very slippery slope to just getting rid of people for any reason whatsoever. Yeah, so I'm kind of all over the place on this. I'm totally all over the place. But I follow. But I'm with you on that ride. I follow every single one of those things that we're wrestling with, including, I think I would go along the same right. Here's my gut instinct. Get him out. My secondary intellectual instinct is I defend free speech and you have to allow somebody to say they hate America if they are an American. It's part of their first amendment.
Starting point is 00:53:42 But I like where you took it to J.D. Vance's sort of indictment of European culture that you're importing your demise. You're importing suicide. Like if you keep importing people who say, I want to take down Western civilization, you are sooner or later not have Western civilization. So I'm with you on all the ups and downs of that roller coaster. On that note, I don't know how much you follow like day-to-day politics or horse race politics or Washington, D.C. politics. But I think there's some interesting here. Congressman Thomas Massey is a Republican. He's libertarian.
Starting point is 00:54:13 And he's always a no vote, always. He's never with the Republican. So today, later today, there's going to be a vote on a spending. resolution and he looks like he's going to be the one republican there may be more we'll have to wait and see how it plays out but he's definitely going to be a no and i think it does bring an interesting question trump's done with him trump posted time to primary him called him a grandstander yeah he called him a grandstander uh others would like it him to ron paul like he's going to do what he's going to do every time and he believes in his principles we also should say they get pretty famous and
Starting point is 00:54:45 raise money on those principles but like is this is this principle do you like a guy like Thomas Massey or at some point you have to get along with the program and be practical? Does he? I mean, didn't he vote against the spending bill recently, too? Yeah, we were pulling the numbers on that because he's accused of voting for the spending bills under Biden. So if that's the case, then why are you selectively principled? Okay, that would change things. I wish I was more of a policy walk and somebody who followed these kind of, you know, every, every single person's vote and had that kind of brain that was like, you know, this guy voted this way for this person and under this administration.
Starting point is 00:55:31 And some of them have been there for so many, you know, they're ancient and they've been there voting forever. And the people who knew kind of Biden's entire record of voting, I felt had a very, they had just had a total. totally different and better perspective on him as a president because they knew what he had voted for before I was even born, I guess, in many instances or when I was two. I'm not sure. Here's my gut. Again, my gut instinct isn't so much about Massey so much as about this part of Trump that demands fealty, you know, where it's like you're going to bend the knee to me or get him out of here it's it's that same like uh i dare it i've never liked that about him i've never it's never been something that it's always been the thing because it kind
Starting point is 00:56:31 of veers into authoritarianism dare dare i say it but it has that that vibe of like you're with me or you're not with me and i think you have to allow for people to be like you and I just had a long journey on the on the last topic we covered you have to allow people to have be of many minds about these things in in a democracy where we're debating because I think that kind of mentality shuts down debate it's a it's a similar like you and I think people would be like hey this is the president you get on board you support him because he you have to trust that he's doing what's right for America but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:17 I think I like a little... That would be my argument. Now is the moment you have these majorities. You're trying to make sweeping big change. And I know the change isn't big enough on this one thing for you, Thomas, but this is an opportunity. And, you know, are your principles
Starting point is 00:57:32 actually being counteractive in this one moment? Like, I know what his argument would be because we have this moment, we should be doing something more and satisfying my principles, which many of you espoused to share. That's what Massey would have probably argue. Many of you espoused to share
Starting point is 00:57:45 those principles so let's stand on it now but that makes sense it is but it is a game of compromise it is a team game um to get something done unfortunately that is politics it is compromised by the way you didn't fail if any of us failed here not knowing the the requirements of the voting history of thomas massey it's not the person who's the guest on the show i should have had his uh his voting record here today i wish i knew more i i do i do um yeah i think it's more just that instinct of like We need to get him out of here. And people, he seems to be pretty popular, even with conservatives. Even guys like Matt Walsh were defending him today.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Yeah. Yeah. Some. He's divisive. And that's an interesting point. I think that's what makes it interesting today. Last thing, you brought up ancient. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:33 I don't know if you feel more qualified on this. I hope you're more qualified than me. Wendy Williams. In an assisted living facility. Committed against her will. crying for help from the windows dropped a plea out the window and she's been
Starting point is 00:58:50 spirited away to a hospital so I don't know what's going on with windows all I know is this Bridget in most states it's really hard to commit someone without their consent there are states where it's easier than others but it is really hard to commit someone unless they're a danger to
Starting point is 00:59:13 themselves or others is the legal standard usually. I just feel like there's so much we probably don't know about this story. It just seems I hate it when things like this. It has a weird, for me, I was not familiar with Wendy Williams, but I was, I did grow up with Britney Spears, and it has a lot of that kind of vibe about it where there's money involved, there's power involved, there's fame involved, there are people who have ulterior motives who are in charge of these people. There is tons of health stuff we know nothing about.
Starting point is 00:59:49 There are incidents that have probably been kept private from us because who knows if she was violent or a danger to herself or others and we just don't know. So I never like when these stories are this public because we are only privy to her sadly in a window dropping a note and not all of the other. stuff that I just mentioned. Right. Well, there's also a bigger story without you and I knowing the details of what's going on with Wendy.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Like this is, if you want to know the story of the American homeless crisis, this is it right here. Yeah, totally. This is the story. Like, we did away with institutions in roughly the 60s and made it hard to commit people against their will. And morally, you're like, yeah, it should be really hard. Like a husband shouldn't be able to take in a wife and go, she's cuckoo.
Starting point is 01:00:38 You know, she's off. And then have her committed. Some might argue that they should. And that was the way at one time. We could just kind of go, man, I'm tired of her. She's not right. She's got PMS. Lock her up.
Starting point is 01:00:53 This is the team of this all. Get her out of here. But the sacrifice that we made in letting that go, is it almost all those dudes on the streets of every major metropolitan city are people with serious mental illness that would have been institutionalized in the 50s? Yeah. I mean, this is this, I lived with this in Los Angeles, and it is a huge, huge problem.
Starting point is 01:01:17 You have a very mentally ill population. And the problem, too, is you don't know if, and I had Jared Klickstein, he wrote, he's been homeless, he's great, he wrote a book about being homeless and being on drugs. You don't know if somebody's just mentally ill because they're on drugs or they have a lot of mental illness until you get them off drugs and get them into a safe environment where you can even evaluate that stuff. Some people, it's just drug-induced mental illness. Other people, it's true mental illness, schizophrenia, and they're dangerous to themselves and our population as we've seen this does, it does, you know, when you're talking about this,
Starting point is 01:02:01 that was kind of my first thought. Like, she has a lot of money. So there are people who are invested in um whether it's nefarious or helpful but with your with no money you it's just i guess good luck out there and don't kill anyone right right i mean we need we need to do something about that so do we bring back the looney bin is that what we do do we bring it back and then we have to make some thing about you can't bring your wife in just because she's been nagging you for 30 years. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Yeah, who gets to be the arbiter of that? Enough with the nagging. I'm taking you. I'm taking you in. All this hysteria. All right. Bridget Fettysi, check her out. Here's where they are.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Walk-ins welcome. Dumpster fire at the Spectator and Beyond Parity with Bridget Fetasy on Substack. And there is much. more coming, as she points out, possibly even a 24-hour news cycle taking you through 1783. We'll wait, with bated breath on that new program. All right, Bridget, it's great to talk to you.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Thank you so much for your time today. Thank you for having me. It was a pleasure. All right, take care. There she goes. Bridget, Fettacy. All right, some of you are already commenting. This is Jeffrey Hilton saying, Thanos was known as the Mad Titan.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Does that mean he belonged in the Looney bin? Mo Havie says laughing at these dudes pointing out Tesla, but failed to point out the whole market is down. I don't think we failed to point out that the whole market was down Mo, and we weren't laughing at Tesla. We were specifically having a conversation about Elon Musk. We will specifically have a conversation about a track runner whacking another one over the head with a metal baton
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Starting point is 01:05:05 YouTube. It is the Will Kane show streaming live at Fox News YouTube, Fox News Facebook, foxnews.com, always available by subscribing at Apple or on Spotify. Acorn sucks, says Elon is getting results, unlike Republican prosecutors. William Young responds, how is having more control a sacrifice? Our opening conversation today about the sacrifices that Elon Musk is making. He has more control over the spending of the federal budget. He's sacrificing the net worth and the stock price currently of Tesla. Tesla stock, by the way, to the comment from before the break, down before and more than the market.
Starting point is 01:05:50 The market is down, as of yesterday, something like 3%, at its peak was down something close to 3%. Tesla stock is down 39%. Moe. And by the way, on the market being down, we talked about it yesterday on the 4 p.m. version of the Will Kane show, I do think having talked to Peter St. Ange and others, we're not going to be able to judge the results of what looks to be a revolutionary government approach over a short time horizon of the economy. We're not going to be able to look at the daily ins and outs, ups and downs of the stock market when what's being done is an attempt to put it on a healthy path for the long term. The analogy that always resonates with me, is the drug addict sometimes you can't bring a dude in who's hooked on heroin and just say no more heroin he crashes he dies you have to bring him in you got to give him methadone you got to ease him off the opioids over time till he can get healthy the analogy is the government spending is our heroin and if we just cut it drastically we're going to see a patient crash the economy is going to suffer
Starting point is 01:06:57 the patient is going to get sick can we ease it with whatever over the short term to get on to this path long term of health hater proof says Elon knows he was in for a fight so there's no back and down we need more people like him and like Trump running our country
Starting point is 01:07:13 based on the rule of law and not motives and feelings and political bias Jeffrey Anderson says Elon saved the world buying Twitter full stop and Adam Schrader says Trump is a real life Robinhood interesting video
Starting point is 01:07:29 of a high school track meet one runner trailing another instead of catching her she tried a different tactic hitting the leader over the head with her baton watch
Starting point is 01:07:42 she gets sucked up and passed when she's passed she unloads how many different hits to the back of the skull one two two hits to the back of the skull the woman that passed her
Starting point is 01:08:01 goes down to the ground off the track it's ugly it's ugly now she gave an interview and said it was natural it was her natural running motion
Starting point is 01:08:12 and everybody's mad at her and that makes her the victim I'm just a person by myself nobody's gonna believe me because I can admit from the video it does look purposeful but I know my intentions and I would never
Starting point is 01:08:25 hit somebody on purpose that's just what do they say almost weaponized tears yeah oh you gotta be careful it is almost impressive crocodile tears
Starting point is 01:08:39 that is she's crying she's crying and she's emotional and you get caught and I would say that's weaponized victimhood there is no way
Starting point is 01:08:51 we're going in front of a jury we're putting on this trial that that comes off as anything but intentional there is no nothing natural about the running motion of her whacking that girl over the head she says something like it's a relay as though she's approaching uh she i think that's what she said like she's approaching the handoff um she's not she's really far away from the handoff she's mad because she got sucked up and they were bumping and running i think probably right there by i don't even see a handoff in the future i don't see a handoff anywhere down the track does she think maybe there wasn't a video by the way By the way, from the looks of that, by the way, they were both, they were battling for second and third. He did battle not to win.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Yeah. That's just so obvious. Unbelievable that she would try this. Tenfoil, I'd say you're the most social media plugged-in version of all of us here. Are there defenders of her on X? I haven't seen any in what I have my research now. I don't know how you defend that. Well, both runners were black.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Both runners were black, so Mike Freeman probably hasn't weighed in. Which probably helps, yeah, the objectivity, yeah. Right, the sense of objectivity, right. If one of the runners were white, how big would this story be? Either way. Either way, yeah. I mean, obviously, obviously the girl hitting if you're white, Mike Freeman would have to call him up stat on his way to a Pulitzer.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Chamelle Hill would have had content for days. But what if the victim had been white? That would be interesting, too, how that would have played out. But they're both black. So that takes race out of it. But I wonder if she has any defenders, because it looks indefensible. Totally indefensible. Now, so indefensible that we've seen criminal charges in sports.
Starting point is 01:10:48 We've seen it during games. I believe they tried to press charges on Tony Stewart during a dirt track race where he i think a guy got killed righty ran over the guy and the in the implication was that he did it on purpose out of anger um i don't but i think the charges were dropped ultimately because you can't prove motive i think or something like that in that i'm not sure i have the details exactly right on that uh did marty mc sorely in hockey tinfoil you put that in did he have charges pressed when he got in a fight or dirty hit in hockey yeah he he He hit Donald Brashear with a stick in the head, and I believe he was charged.
Starting point is 01:11:29 I don't know if he was convicted, but he did face charges in that incident. And there were other ones in hockey, too. And then Google, okay, what else do you have in hockey? Steve Moore was sucker punched from behind. I believe that they had charges on that one. I don't remember the other ones. Two days, Google this while we're talking. Google Kermit Washington, Rudy Tomjanovich.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Did they press charges? I think Rudy Tom Johnovins tried to get stopped. So Houston Rockets game back in, I believe, the 70s, Rudy Tom Jonovic, he went on to become a great coach, was running down the core. And Kermit Washington turns, I believe it was Kermit Washington, if I have that right. He turned around and just totally sucker punched Rudy and broke his jaw. And I wonder if they pressed charges in that case. See what you get when you're Googling that.
Starting point is 01:12:24 But this has happened in sports, and it can. I remember studying at law school. Like, there is a consent to some level of violence. There is a consent to some level of violence in sports, but it has to be within the normal course of the game. And I would say that girl suffered a fractured skull, I believe. Concussion and a fractal. They were evaluating her at least for a fractured skull.
Starting point is 01:12:45 I'd say we're way beyond the scope of track. Way beyond the scope of consent. She does have a competitive spirit. Go ahead, James. I think she does really have a competitive spirit that, you know, with the right coach, she could hone. But I guess she just didn't have the right coach. If that's your kid, you say, we're on to something here. Let's see if we can shape it.
Starting point is 01:13:04 If he's nine, absolutely. I can't find anything that he was, but he did go down for fraud, unfortunately, Kermit Washington. Who? Was it Kermit Washington that punched Rudy Tom Janovitch? Was it, was it? Do I have the characters right in this story? Yes What he has to do is Google
Starting point is 01:13:26 $3 million dollar Punchy Tomjanovich Good luck spelling Tom John Likers powered for Kurt Washington delivers Near Fatal Sucker Punch to Rocky Guard Rudy Tomjanovitch
Starting point is 01:13:35 Yeah December 9th 1977 Yeah But I don't see any charges So Spurley was charged and found guilty
Starting point is 01:13:47 In his incident I think he had 18 months or something Probably got, you know, will down. And then Todd Bertuzi was the one who sucker punched Steve Moore. And he got 80, he was found guilty and did 80 hours community service.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Here's probation. Yeah. Community service. What's up two days? I'm seeing Kermit, Washington was suspended for 60 days without pay and fined $10,000 for the punch. That's what happened to. Well, light work.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Yep. We'll see what happens to this. track star see if she gets uh get out jail free card for her tears and victimization all right i'll remember to use that next time i have somebody has harsh words for us here on the will cane show here's the harsh words for today that's going to do it for us today i hope you'll hang out this again tomorrow we'll be here the same time same place see you next time Listen ad free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcasts and Amazon Prime members. You can listen to this show, ad free on the Amazon music app.
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