Will Cain Country - The Rebellion Is Real: Kid Rock on President Trump, Ticketmaster, and 'Rock N Rodeo'

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

On this special edition of 'The Will Cain Show,' Will sits down for an unfiltered, wide-ranging conversation with music icon and cultural lightning rod Kid Rock just hours before 'Kid Rock's Rock N Rodeo' show tonight. They cover everything from Kid Rock’s lifelong friendship and late-night calls to President Donald Trump to why he believes the media is “public enemy number one” and how conservatism has become the new rebellion. Will and Kid Rock also dive into Kid Rock’s mission to overhaul the ticketing industry, why authenticity still matters in a world addicted to fake, and much more. Watch 'Kid Rock's Rock N Rodeo' LIVE tonight at 8pm Eastern - Exclusively on FOXNation.com [and if you miss it, you can always catch it on demand]  Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Normally Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern Time at Fox News, YouTube, and Fox News, Facebook. But a Cain on Sports Edition, available for subscribing at Apple or on Spotify. Today, from AT&T Stadium, just above the dirt of the PBR event in Dallas, Texas, we sit down with one of the partners, the entrepreneurs, the entertainers, the icons of America, kid rock on the former FBI director spelling out 8647, 86ing 47 in seashells on the beach. Why everybody has the wrong impression of Donald Trump? Who really is he as a man? What really happened in that meeting with Bill Maher? Plus, why he loves America? Kid Rock.

Kid, awesome to have you on the Will Cain Show. Thank you, Will. Love your show. A little bit of a cigar. First thing in the morning, we were just talking about nicotine is the hardest habit to quit. 100%. But it's the most enjoyable. I'd be pretending if I hadn't started my day with a little bit of coffee and nicotine. I started with a lot of coffee and nicotine.

About 4 a.m. getting after it. You just said this to me. You said, I haven't done this in a long time. All this media and these interviews on the day of a show. You're playing tonight, and I was thinking about that. This is a long day for you. You remind me in that way, and I'm not giving you this, like, gratuitous compliment of the president. You said it last night on Jesse Waters.

You don't need a lot of sleep? No, and I did this kind of sleep study a few years ago with Cleveland Clinic, and the result was basically there's like 2% of people who sleep four or five hours a night and are just fine because, you know, it concerns me with, like, heart disease and things like that, stuff that runs in my family, and I've really been on his health kick the last three years. I still have my fun, but, you know, I balanced it out, and yeah, it's, And man, I feel great. Is it always been in the way?

Same thing with him, like, you know, I'll talk to him at two in the morning. And then, you know, sometimes after I have a few beers, I'm like, hey, what's up? And they don't call me at six, like five of him, be like, how do you like it? I'm up. I'm ready to go. What percentage of time when you dial his number does he pick up? 50%. No matter the hour?

No. I know the best hours to get him at, you know, which is really early. And then, you know, kind of dinner time, late weekends when he's golfing or something. You know, I try not to bother him too much. I have something really pointing, like my ticketing thing. I'm trying to get done or whatever, but I don't wear them out. So when I call them, it's just fun calls. Like, I'm his buddy.

Like, I'm not one of these people like, hey, so-and-so wants you to, which I feel like I work for the government now. Every day, it's somebody sending me something. Can you get me a pardon? Can you know how this happened to me? Can you tell the president? I'm like, no. I'm his buddy.

Like, I'm trying to get my ticketing thing done. You know, and I've been by aside since day one, so I'm not putting anybody's agenda above mine. So if you're listening, just know that. that up front. Has it always been that way, the four to five hours of sleep night? Have you been built that way since you were in the 20s? No, no, no, no. I was a little wilder in my youth. Now they've been this health cake. It's like the healthy I get, the less I sleep almost. That's been the pattern. But, you know, I was, I didn't, I didn't see a day till 10 o'clock for

years, but I was also in sixth gear, you know. I can't, at this point in life, I'm trying to find third gear. I'm either off or six. You know, whether it's working, playing, partying, anything. And I'm trying to, like, you know, make life sustainable being in a rock and roll band. Like, I think third gear is where it has to end up at some point. Why did that happen? Was there something that happened in your life? Why did you decide to get healthy? I don't think he or you will mind me saying that I know you and Pete used to work out together a little bit. And I saw you a year or two ago. I know you love pickleball. What kicked off the health kick? And it was just time.

It was just time to, you know, replace the bad habits with good ones. And, you know, it was two being friends with Dana White and that whole scene, you know, having somebody, having people to see the changes in them, you know, it's like, you know, you're unstoppable, untouchable through probably your 30s, you know, when you're rocking and rolling every night and you get a pizza and drink beer and hang out and do it again. And your 40s, you kind of, you don't even realize it's creeping up on you. And you're like, oh, man, I got a little beer got going, you know, especially when you're seeing yourself on TV and in pictures you got it's a great check yes very good check so then when

I you know got close to 50 I'm like all right it's time it's time and I you know I mean if you just you know AI or Google like the average age of a pop rock star yeah I think it's 47 really so I'm winning right now you said that you and the president have a lot in common we just mentioned the sleep what else do you have in common work ethic our love for America love for family and friends, loyalty, um, fun. That dude is the funniest guy, you know, I've ever met. People like, what's like to golf like? I'm my greatest golf partner ever.

Just out there, you're so relaxed, feeling fun, even enamored with the presidency, you know. That takes a little time, kind of, but I mean, I tell my friends when they come to have breakfast with us or something, I'm like, in a minute and a half, you'll feel like this is one of our old buddies we're just hanging out talking with. And I know all the presidents. you know, less enough to be around him and spend time. They're all very charismatic. You have to be at a level, but he's on another level, man.

He's just so down to earth, so down. Is it cool, I mean, unpretentious? I mean, I'm out there golfing in a wife beater because I wanted to get some son. He's like, whatever you want. Like my dad, like, first time we golfed, he's like, don't smoke and drink beer around the president. I'm like, like the third hole, I'm like, do you mind if I have a cigarist friend? He's like, no, it's whatever you want?

And I'm like, he's like, you want a Hershey's bar? You want a Fanta? And I'm like, do you mind if I get a beer? He's like, no, drink your beer. I'm like, yes. It is wild. I've had that personal experience as well. I don't know them as well as you.

But it's hard to explain to people whose only impression of the president is the caricature they get through 90% of your media channels. Yeah, the media paints this picture. I mean, I've been saying that the mainstream media is like public enemy number one at this point. You know, no matter what you think about them,

I mean, there's just sometimes facts. you know, some of the good things that are, you can't argue against them that are just good for this country no matter what your politics are. And they won't even anything that puts them in a positive leg, they will not even give a nod to it. And it's just, it's just disgusting.

What did you think of the 86-47 thing going around yesterday, including the former FBI director, James Comey? My first thing was like, oh, he must drunk tweet too. You know, let's send out some drunk tweets. I'm like, but I'm in a rock band. Not the former FBI director. The FBI director. knows what 86 somebody means, clearly, you know, I mean, clearly knows what that means.

And that's effed up that, you know, this guy's had two assassination attempts, you know, President Trump and you had the former FBI saying, you know, alluding to 86, 47, like, what the hell's the matter with people? How do you explain it? I was, you know, TDS at the highest levels. I mean, I used to laugh about TDS. I thought there was a funny thing, Trump derangement syndrome, like, ha, that's a good one. And over the last few years, I'm like, this is real.

This is real. Like, this is literally, I'm like, you know, I love you always slashing these pharmaceutical prices and stuff. And I've said, you know, hopefully one of these companies, Pfizer can come up with a cure for TDS. Because there's half this nation that's infected. You said most people when they meet him within a minute and a half, they see the charm, they see the personality, see the real man. See the realness. Yeah. The realness.

Authentity. You can't fake real. So did the over-under hit for you when you took Bill Maher to the White House? Over. I mean, it was, me and Dana just sat back and enjoyed the show. We had a front-row seat to what potentially could have been the biggest poop show on earth. You can talk like you want to talk. This is the Will Kane show.

The big show on Earth. We had a front-row seat. And, you know, it was just so, uh, it was just so, uh, it was. It was, you know, the president, first off, was not too happy with me about lining this up. He agreed to it. He kind of forgot that he agreed to it. And he called me a few times with concerns, and I talked to Bill. And I was like, look, Bill's, you know, he's not, I was worried, too.

Like, is Hollywood going to try to use this to get thrown out of the White House and get ratings up? And Bill goes, Bob, I'm not going to go in there and sabotage something that could potentially bring this country closer together. I'm like, Mr. President, he gets it. He's not going to agree with the politics. Just know that going in, of course. He's not going to put on a maga hat and, you know, dance around for a picture with us. Like, but then we're in the overall office. This was funny.

I think it's okay to share this. I don't like to speak out of school when it's not appropriate, but they're like, pull pop up a chair. Supposed me goes, what the hell are we doing tonight? And I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, you know, he's just going to, dinner's going to be fine. He's going to throw us under the bus. You don't need this. I don't need this.

He goes, you know, I just found out this. I just found out about this from Melania. And I'm like, sir, I know you have a lot in your. plate and I get it. I was like, number one, two questions. Number one, do you think that I would line up a dinner with one of your harshest critics without getting your approval? And number two, do I have the power to do that? Can I just line up these dinners and you show up at the White House? Without your approval or your notice ahead of time?

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You mentioned a minute ago that you have a lot in common, and one of them is the first thing you said is love for America. So when did that, has that always been a part of your life? I met your brother. Is that how you guys grew up? Is this something that developed in your life over time? No, no, that's how we grew up. My dad and mom has told us just good values.

You know, being patriots, you know, we attended church, you know, played baseball in sports. And we did hard work on the weekends around our beautiful, you know, a beautiful compound that my father built with his bare hands, you know, with a great car dealership. And yeah, we always had an American flag hanging, picture George Washington, Abe Lincoln. And, yeah, I think, and, you know, then when I started, you know, have some notoriety and make some money, as we call it, you know, my mom was the one that really pushed me into philanthropy and helping other people. out and and when it came up the USS Cole was bombed she was the one that said you ought to do something nice for them you know and we did a show and gave the money to those sailors families that died and that really kicked off things that you know led to so many U.S.O tours and playing around the world for our troops you know especially during those god-off

wars and so yeah that was a hundred percent instilled to me by my family my grandfather served a World War II and my uncle in Vietnam and you've leaned all the way in unapologetically I know the answer you're going to give me is I never gave but when you did lean in, you have a lot of relationships. Bill Maher is one of them. And by the way, I pride myself on this, Bob. I have friends that don't agree with me. It doesn't preclude us from being friends. But in your business, it does for them often. Did a lot of people say, no more, no more friendship with Kid Rock? Yeah, it's just, well, number one, I don't give a f***. I knew you were going to say that. But number two, it really, it's like, you know,

when you find yourself in hard times, difficult times, you find out who your friends are. Man, it just reads out the bad hombres, so to speak. You know, it's like, when you go to Kid Rock's Honky Tongue, you kind of know the clientele's going to be there. When you go to my new restaurant in Nashville, you kind of know the starting point. I kind of look at it as like it's a great singles hookup spot. You know what I mean? Because you're kind of going into it halfway, knowing a little bit more

what somebody's kind of values are and where their mindset is about things. And there's a good chance that people are going to be patriots, you know, love their country and hardworking folks. And so I actually look at it as a blessing. You know, there's so many artists who are so scared they tap dance around these issues. They're scared to say how they feel. I mean, I've said it before and I'll say it again.

I'll give Taylor Swift credit for at least standing up for what she believes in. I think it's garbage. I don't believe in any of. I think she's ill-informed. She probably ought to listen to her dad a little bit more. But, you know, at the same time, she's got the balls to stand up for what she believes in.

And I don't hate her for that. I don't agree with her wanting to be, you know, I think a lot of her politics lie. wanting to be Hollywood starling. I think that's a lot of celebrities. And I think for me, I don't know if I hear you saying this, I think to some extent as well, if you're doing it because you think it's the popular path or the easy road to go down or the easiest way to sell tickets, I can't respect that.

But if you truly believe, perhaps like Bill Maher does, these things, you can be wrong, but I can respect that you got to your incorrectness authentically. Yeah, absolutely. Real is real. Absolutely. said last night on Jesse Waters when we were talking about some of these stars. Cue the coffee.

It's okay. We roll through it. We're talking about Bruce Springsteen. You're talking about Bruce Springsteen with Jesse. And you said something like, well, Bruce has got a few good songs, but for my money, pound for pound, it's Bob Seeger. There's no heartland rock and roll. And I love a lot of Bruce Springsteen songs.

Tom Petty, John Mellencamp. But for me, Bob Seeger, You know, not even just my friendship with him or being from Detroit. When I just look at it pound for pound, note for note, songwriting for songwriting, you know, singing, everything. You know, there's great records, you know, Bob did a muscle shoals and all over. Like, there's just nobody touches them in that space. I mean, not only my biggest fan, but I'm jealous every day that I'll never be that good. Well, when I heard you say that, it made me wonder.

So you start out, and it's largely rap, hip-hop where you start, then comes to rock and roll over time. It's also brought in country. So I'm just curious, besides Bob Seeger, either as a kid or now, who you look to and go, that's my inspiration. Oh, man, it's everything from Run DMC and very early old school hip hop in the 80s. You know, I could name hip hop artists for a day in that space, but I'll just put Run DMC at the pinnacle. And then, you know, my parents had such a great record collection of Bob Seeger and the Eagles. And everything from Mountain John and Johnny Cash to Whalen Jennings. And it was so much different music.

and then my sister and brother were into different stuff. And, you know, hip hop was what grabbed me first. Probably, it was just something that hit me musically that I loved, but it was also the rebellious of it. You know, just it was lined up parallel with some with rock and roll. And as I got older, I really thought about it. I was like, in our lifetimes,

and pretty much since the existence of music, if you don't go back to like Celtic music, you know, in Europe and things like this, but American music, like, everything was birthed by jazz music and the blues. And everything was a form of that, from rock and roll, to soul music, you know, R&B, country, everything.

We didn't see anything else. I got to witness the birth of hip-hop, which now has its fingerprints, like the blues and jazz, on every form of music that comes out. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. But, you know, so, yeah, I've just always gone with my heart and somehow was blessed to just, you know, be a truth-teller. And I've learned that a young age,

and that's reflected in my music and my life. Don't you think it's interesting you said that you were drawn to hip-hop in part because of its rebelliousness? I was, too. I listened to rap. I listen to run DMC. I listen to you. And rebelliousness is an appeal. It's what attracts kids to music.

Don't you think it's fascinating that over time, our point of view, one that you and I share, came to be the rebelliousness for kids today. And it's wild because... Being a conservative became like the... But it's wild because you're actually in the majority, and yet you're also rebellious. Yeah. I mean, once again, MAGA has just changed the Republican Party for the better, you know, in my opinion. It's just completely changed it for the better, in my opinion. You know, it was so kind of, you know, this, there was no room for me in there as Kid Rock for a lot of years.

I was, but there wasn't any room for me to be what I am now in the party, you know, with President Trump. You weren't walking out at a UFC event with your song playing in front of George W. Bush. Yeah, I wasn't golfing with the president while he's playing the unedited version of American badass. With some pretty hard language in it. Let's take a quick break. In just a moment, we'll be back on the Will Cain Show. Fox News Audio presents Unsolved with James Patterson. Every crime tells the story, but some stories are left unfinished. Somebody knows. Real cases, real people. Listen and follow now at Fox Truecrime.com. It is time to take the quiz. It's five questions in less than five minutes. We ask people on the streets of New York City to play

along. Let's see how you do. Take the quiz every day at the quiz. Then come back here to see how you did. Thank you for taking the quiz. From the Fox News Podcasts Network. Hey there, it's me. Kennedy, make sure to check out my podcast. Kennedy saves the world. It is five days a week, every week. Download and listen at Fox Newspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. Welcome back to The Wilcane Show. Finally, I want to talk about this, Kid Rock, Rock and Rodeo. Okay, this is fascinating and you've described it as P.T. Barnum meets the rodeo. And I love that on multiple levels that I want to explain to you, but I want you to explain to me what you mean when you say you're bringing P.T. Barnum to the rodeo.

Well, first of all, you know, it was the thing, you know, that I did deal with the PBR to start a league. We're both owners in that. And they have a team's bow riding for format that they started. And I was talking about I wanted to take rodeo to places like I didn't have it in Detroit growing up. You know what I mean? To different places like that. Of course, we're starting it in Texas, which they're very spoiled in the world of rodeo in all things, cowboy. And so we figured out, let's take the team's competition, try to franchise and sell those teams eventually and create something totally different, more drama, which cowboys and cowgirls don't like their rodeo being messed with too much. But after we did our first event last year,

Every one of these world-class, you know, cowboys and cowgirls, world champions came up, we were like, that was incredible. We love it. I got their co-signature on that, which meant a lot. And, and for me, you know, my thing isn't putting the rodeo together. You know, I play a cowboy in a song. That's about it. I got some horses and some long-heads, long-horn steers and some chickens. That's about it.

I don't pretend to be a world-class cowboy in no level. But I said, I want to, you know, PT Barnum this up. I want there to be shenanigans in entertainment at the highest levels. Like, the format has always been, you if there's a music component is the rodeo and then a concert. I go, I want to kick this off with a huge grand entrance, and I want our thing to be a special surprise guest with just a big, you know, 10-minute opening number to set the tone for the night. And then in between the disciplines as they're going on. You know, the first thing I said, and they thought I was joking, it was like, we got to get midget matadors and, like, midgets riding mini bowls and just like shenanigans at the highest level, just entertainment. Was that sold?

They were kind of laughing. I'm like, no, no, I'm serious. I'm like, we need shenanigans at the highest level. Entertainment that's just fun for the entire family. Yeah, it's edgy and it's pushing the boundaries, but it's just fun. Like, somehow sports has gotten so serious. And, I mean, you look at what the Savannah bananas are doing in baseball. And I was like, and I actually just had this meeting.

I go, this is what I'm screaming about for two years. You know, I've been following the Savannah bananas too. And, you know, they just sold out Nissan Stadium. And Nashville, I go, boom, there it is. I love baseball. I love all sports. But I'm like, this elevates and it's something. else. This is entertainment, you know, mixed with sports, and that's what I want to do with the

rodeo. It's like you're stealing my questions, and we're on the same wavelength, and I've only ever been on that same wavelength. It's one other person, and he's now the Secretary of Defense. But I saw the Savannah Bananas three weeks ago. I didn't know anything about them, and I said, what am I going to see? And somebody said, it's like the Harlem Globetrotters meets baseball, but on steroids. I went at Clemson. They sold out Death Valley, 80,000 people. Davos when he runs out of the tunnel. And you get out there, and it's exactly what you said. Yeah, it's baseball, but it's the circus. It's entertainment. It's the Harlem Globetrotters. And when I was reading and thinking about what you're doing here, I immediately thought of

Savannah Bananas. Absolutely. Thousand percent. That was the best way I could convey that to the PBR, who've been great partners, and the top dogs at TCO. Now that I put it in those terms, and it's funny, it relates, switching gears to, like, this ticketing thing I'm doing. Like, I'm trying to, you know, get a 10% cap on the resale tickets, get tickets at fair prices in the hands of the fans. And it's been a little tough to, you know, even though the presidents move the ball farther down the field than anybody with his executive order

and brought this issue to the forefront and directed the FTC and DOJ to look into this, it's hard, you know, selling them on something that's a little bit anti-capitalistic, you know, because we're both capitalists to the bones. But when the people are getting screwed, I go, this lines up with what you're doing with pharmaceuticals. Exactly the same thing.

You know what I mean? Like, why can't somebody sell a pharmaceutical for whatever money they can get in America? capitalism. Well, when it goes too far, people hide under the guise of capitalism. Somebody needs to step in. This is where regulations actually make sense, not crippling small business protecting the American worker, the American consumer. So, you know, it related very easily to them like that. I think we got a good shot of getting a time. Tell me more about how that's going in that. I covered it this week on my show, the potential of capping prices of pharmaceuticals.

And it is a tension. It is a struggle because you say we are a free market. And you and I, we believe in capitalism. If the price of something is the price of something, that's what the market bears. But something happens in a few markets, where it gets warped, and it doesn't reflect the true market. Maybe it's instead of capitalism, it's corporatism. But how do you reconcile that and explain and get it where you want when it comes to tickets and a reasonable price for the fans? Exactly what I say. I mean, I don't claim to be the smartest guy in the room in the issue on this. I have the loudest voice. And I've been, you know, working on this and studying it for probably 20 years, along with some other artists who are, who we really want to get

the ticket prices into the hands of the fans at the prices we set. I mean, what other business doesn't control their inventory? You know, and ticket master, I've been in business with them in Live Nation for years. And Live Nation's been great in a lot of ways, but I'll say it again, like, if they lose their company, get broke up, I'm not going to shed a tear at all. They've been very bad actors in that space. And they'll blame it on competition, this, that, and the other, or it's lack of competition, because it really is. monopoly. And I know the DOJ is looking into that. I've spoke to them about it. You know, I can end up testifying. I don't know where this thing goes. But, you know, I'm also at the point

where it's like, okay, if you kill Ticketmaster, like I said, I'm not going to shed a tear. But it doesn't solve the problem. I want to solve the problem, you know. And the best thing I've I mean, it's like an airline ticket. If you buy an airline ticket, you can't resell your airline ticket. Right. You know, so can we do tickets like that? I mean, I can't, I couldn't go to Ticketmaster any time during my career. and say, okay, what's the deal with the building, this, that, and the other, what do you guys got your ticket prices and fees at? Okay, it's 10,000 seat building.

I want to give you that money and buy those 10,000 tickets. Right. Then I own my inventory and I'll resell them. No, we control that. You know, it's so much conundering. This isn't just in ticketing. It's the whole music business. It is the most evil business on earth.

And if I can get this ticketing thing done, I'm like, I might put the record companies in my sights next, Because they've been terrible actors, too. What business do you know that basically gives you a loan? You're going to get a record deal for a loan. Yes, they do a lot of promotion, you know, things like this. They charge it all back to you, so you repay that loan, and then they take 80% of your profits. Who can survive on that business model?

And I'm not saying there's not a ton of money in the business. For those that make it, there's oodles. But for the middle-level, lower-level artists who make a living doing this, it's just another scumbag system of people being greedy, and they need to be checked too. But their value is also declined, right? In the past, the purpose of the record company was distribution and promotion, both of which you now control.

Well, I do, but people who still have record deals, like it was supposed to be the digital age, was supposed to usher in this new thing. You know, we've heard about these black artists. It just got screwed from the beginning of time. And most artists, you know, and you're like, okay, this digital age is going to bring us to a 50-50 spot, at least. Nope.

They just figured out how to put another page in the contract and screw you again. All right, last thing, you're well beyond. now we were just talking in terms that you are now an owner you're you're an entertainer but that's only a partial description i mean you're part of this whole thing you've really crossed over you're an entrepreneur that sounds funny entrepreneur kid rock that's gonna be a tough sell i don't think so man i don't think so it's part of what you've been from the beginning a rebel and a visionary your music is unique and now your business is unique yeah one of the best compliments I've ever had was somebody said that I'm a disobedient but decent and I like that I

like that and yeah I mean I've been very fortunate you know my father was a very smart businessman although all the advice he'd given me through the years was I went against and it worked out pretty well but I still have some gene in me or something that you know giving me that ethic of hard work and you know trying to be intelligent about about things I'm going to talk about or changes are going to make like in ticketing or starting a business or being a partner in the business. So, you know, I like to be on time.

I think that's our biggest commodity start there. I'm a great guest. I'll take my plate to the sink and make my bed, so I get invited back. And when I'm a partner in a business or something, I work my ass off and give it 1,000%. You'll see it here. I have the Rock and Rodeo.

Thank you, Will. Love your show. Thanks for so much time. Thank you, man. There you go. Hope you enjoyed that conversation with Kid Rock. Check out Kid Rock's Rock and Rodeo at Fox Nation. Hope you'll subscribe, leave us a five-star review, Apple or Spotify, become a member of the Willis.

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