Will Cain Country - The View Tried To Press JD Vance - It Didn't Go As Planned (ft. Steve Cortes)

Episode Date: June 17, 2026

Vice President J.D. Vance didn’t skip any stops on his ongoing press tour, wading deep into enemy territory on 'The View' yesterday. Their attempts to press him didn’t turn out the way they’d ho...ped. Steve Cortes of ‘Steve Cortes Investigates’ joins Will and The Crew to work through Vice President Vance’s class-A response to Whoopi Goldberg, before breaking down the reasons behind the Left-wing bias in Sports Media and reacting to the stark difference in enthusiasm for American culture between Japanese visitors and Brits. Plus, Will and Steve investigate the continued exposure of Muslim rape gangs in the U.K., Left-wing voters' second thoughts on mass migration, and California’s new “Gay Certification” program.Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Vice President and the View, 250,000 girls, gang rape, repeated rape in the UK. And are you gay enough for California? With Steve Cortis on Wilcane Country. Will Can Country streaming live at the Will Kane Country YouTube channel, the Willcane Facebook page, but always here every day, but on your schedule by following us at Spotify or on Apple. Tim Fulpat, Two A Days, Dan. And joining us today is the host of Steve Cortes Investigates. It's Steve Cortes on Wilcane Country. What's up, Steve?
Starting point is 00:01:13 Hey, appreciate you having me. Hi there. It's good to have you here on the program hanging out with us as we work our way through some of the most fascinating stories in the news. today. And there are some good ones. There are some good ones, boys. I want to know if you are gay enough to get money in California. Now, we're going to have to figure out exactly how gay you are. And it's going to take some friends. I'm going to need some letters. I'm going to need some evidence. Just exactly how gay you are. But first, let's get into the Vice President and the View. Steve, the Vice President's on an absolute media blitz tour. The Five.
Starting point is 00:01:50 of Gutfeld, Hannity, and The View. And he got into it a bit with the ladies over at the View. Let's start, if we can, with Whoopi Goldberg and the vice president talking about the administration's antipathy towards black Americans. So when you see, you know, things, the Emmett Till stuff coming down or them doing all kinds of removal of information, of black heroes. How do you, how do you, how does that sit with you? Well, what do you,
Starting point is 00:02:28 what exactly are you talking about what, because you, you, I know, Emmett Till was, I can tell you all the, no, no, I, I want to know what she's, you don't know what I'm talking about. So in, in, in a lot of the, museums, just, there's so many, I just, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:46 where they're taking down the actual history that has, happened in this country. Slavery. The audience groans at the vice president asking for specifics. But the question, a great one, what exactly are you talking about? Leave Schupe-Goldberg, speechless, searching for words, an inability to articulate exactly what she is saying, speaking in generalities. The vice president, Steve, I thought did something pretty fascinating on every one of these stops on his media tour. He came off as, and I think it was his primary goal to be, likable. He did not look to be combative. He did not look to fight. He did not really even look to debate.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I think that he looked to gain fans. I think that he looked to gain votes. I think he looked to set himself up for a run for the presidency. Yeah, well, I think all of that is accurate. I think it also flows from his heart. You know, and after all, he's promoting a book about his faith. So I think that's also a key part of it. And of course, it can be both, right? You can have these temporal ambitions, and you can also want to be that kind of spirit and sort of, you know, gift to the world. I will tell you, though, because his book is about faith, it makes me think, Will, this guy has done some terrible sinning that he had to go as propitiation for those sins and sit at that table with the ladies of the view.
Starting point is 00:04:06 What did you do, J.D.? We want to know what you did. But no, listen, I think that it was the smart move for him. He was, I think, yes, you're right. He was gracious. He held his ground, certainly on principle, but he was incredibly gracious with some people who were not very gracious toward him. And I have real sympathy for him, by the way, because I spent two years at CNN almost every night doing battle with Anna Navarro. Well, they almost always put us on together,
Starting point is 00:04:31 because I think they like the idea of they had this left-wing Latina with this right-wing Hispanic guy. Let's have these two fight, usually about immigration or something they think is Hispanic-related. So they put us on just constantly. And, you know, it's about as fun as dental work to have to argue with Anna Navarro. So good for him for being gracious about it. for willingly going into the belly of the beast, as it were. And I think acquitting himself very, very well. And that's a good word. I think that's a good word to describe J.D. Vance,
Starting point is 00:05:01 at least in these appearances, across media, notably on the view. The word that you use is gracious. That is the word that I think describes his behavior. And I do think it would have been very difficult. Like you, Steve, I spend some time at CNN, mercifully not so much around Anna Navarro, but in the early teens, I spent five years at CNN. I then the 2015 to 20, 20 years spent time at ESPN.
Starting point is 00:05:27 And so what I recognize there is a common tactic and a common situation that you're put in not just with someone who disagrees with you, but a proposed moderator, someone who lays the groundwork for discussion, wherein there are so many assumptions baked in that it's almost impossible to move forward. You have to unpack everything that was laid down before you even get to the end of the question. And I think it's really hard.
Starting point is 00:05:56 It's not just hard logically. It's hard emotionally, especially in the environment of television because you're time-constrained. But honestly, it would be hard in a private conversation as well. If somebody started out with, you know, for years now, Steve, you've been hateful towards Muslims. You've been talking about why you think Muslims are really the biggest person. problem on the face of the planet. Tell us what it is that you have against Muslims. And you would have to start either agreeing with all of those premises and then get to your substantive answer, or you have to spend a great amount of time going, hold on, hold on. What situations are you
Starting point is 00:06:37 talking about? Like specifically give me what you're talking about when you say we are erasing the history of black Americans. Right. Now, you're make a great point. And thankfully, JD's very good about that. I think one of the best people in politics, frankly, at not simply accepting false premises. But you're right. It's hard to have a real conversation or even to have a real debate with somebody who constantly spews false premises as a tactic. And we see this a lot from the left wing media. And by way, I'm glad you mentioned your significant time at ESPN because, you know, I'm a sports nut will. And I tell people who aren't sports fans who I know in the political world, believe it or not, the sports media is even more biased than
Starting point is 00:07:18 news than the legacy news media is and more politicized in general. I think a lot of non-sports fans don't believe me when I tell them that, but of course you lived it every single day. And those of us who just love sports live it all too often just, you know, as viewers. But you're exactly right about attacking false premises, say, no, I don't accept that premise, give me more evidence there. And by the way, an intelligent answer is not what Whoopi Goldberg did, which has said, oh, there are so many examples that I can't even give you one.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Well, if there's so many, it should be quite easy to give me one, right? of what you're talking about. I mean, that's a ridiculous canard. It's an excuse because she wants to spew generalities and false premises that simply aren't accurate. But again, J.D. I think has done an excellent, excellent job. Listen, I'm clearly biased.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I worked on his 2022 Senate campaign, got to be close with him personally. He's clearly my choice to be the next president of the United States. So I'm speaking from, you know, a vantage point here that is not objective. But I do think that this book, this media tour, is going to be part of what, position him, not the only thing, but part of what positions him as the presumptive frontrunner.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I mean, look, there will be a primary clearly. There will be opponents, clearly. Some of them may be really significant, and it's hard to know now what's going to happen two years from now. But we can do a lot worse than J.D. Vance as the next president of the United States, in my view. Well, you're absolutely right in your diagnosis of sports media. It is fascinating how much further left it is than the actual media. I don't know that it, that necessarily means that Mina Kimes at ESPN is further left than Don Lemon currently unemployed. I don't know that that is necessarily the, the end conclusion, but it's this bubble of a world wherein you don't really have a counterpoint. And when the rare counterpoint is provided, that counterpoint is
Starting point is 00:09:14 of course vilified, which is what I spent five years experiencing. And that's what you would see from the likes of Clay Travis or anyone else that would dare to go against the group think that is far left within sports media. But it is a conundrumor. Why? Why is the sports media more left than even the political media? And I think it has something to do with the fact, that there is no real alternative voice. There is no Fox News. There isn't even really a strong independent digital media voice in sports that doesn't lean to the left. I mean, there's some.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But the quantity is in such rare supplies compared to the average. And I don't know. A lot of people say it's because sports media ultimately is failed. it's D-tier-level star power to political media, but with the same goals and the same points of view. So it's the people that couldn't make it at the newspaper column that ended up writing the sports column.
Starting point is 00:10:19 They still were the same as the guy that got the lefty news column, but instead he was relegated to covering the box score until he could get his own op-ed. Will, and I think, yes, somewhat related to that. I would put a slightly different nuance on it, but basically agreeing with you there. just, and I've never worked in sports media, but just having, you know, been a sports nut my entire life, having talked to a lot of people in sports media, I think there's an insecurity there,
Starting point is 00:10:43 which kind of related to what you're saying. In other words, they're broadcasters, right? They're on air. Some of them are making fortunes. Some of them have massive platforms, but they don't feel that they're intellectually at the level of the news media. Now, by the way, I don't agree with that. I mean, having worked in news media for a very long time, I think they're given too much credence to broadcasters in the news media world. But regardless, I think that insecurity.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Security is a big part of it, and so they believe as a way to legitimize themselves that they can't just simply talk about this football game. They have to try to turn it into some sort of crusade, right? And it has to be about ending racism or whatever they think is going to virtue signal properly for them. But I really think it does flow from that insecurity. But it's really, it's too bad because sports is one of the rare existing monoculture moments in America. We don't have that many of those moments anymore. We certainly don't have them broadly in media where there's not much broadcasting. It is generally microcasting now.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And so sports should be very, very unifying for our culture. Still is, at times, of course. It seems like a lot of the countries having a lot of fun with World Cup right now, for example, and still can be, but it's too bad that what should be significant unifying events that are not politicized are constantly politicized by a lot of folks with bad intentions or insecurities or whatever shortcoming it is. Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Kane Country. to America's 250th birthday.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Get 20% off your first purchase at Fox Newswineshop.com with code FNRadio 20. 20% discount excludes wine club offers and cannot be combined with any other promotion. Expires July 31st, 2026. Must be 21 order to order. Please drink responsibly. As a quick aside, since Steve introduces the World Cup, so yesterday, one of my producers from New York is here in Dallas. I had a sit-down interview yesterday with NVIDIA's CEO Jensen Wong. And oftentimes when I have a field interview, producers from New York will come down. This particular producer, Baylor, had never been to Dallas. Not that I know had even ever been to Texas.
Starting point is 00:12:39 And so he said, I want to go get barbecue. So I said, okay, well, I'm exhausted, but I have to play gracious host. I got to get you over to Pecan Lodge in Deep Ellum, Texas. And we walked into Pecan Lodge, and it was as though I had traveled to, it's literally one mile down the road from our studios in downtown Dallas. But it is though I had traveled into Epcot Center at Disney World. The entire barbecue joint was filled with the world. And it was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Look, Boston, Dallas, Houston, cities across the country are filling up with people from across the world. And I got to tell you, boys, Dan, Pat, it is fun. I'm telling you it's really, really. New York City's fun. Over the weekend, over the weekend here in Dallas, everywhere you looked, the streets were filled with orange because the Dutch were here. And I'm telling you, the streets were filled with orange. Now, take a look. This is just some video from the Dutch invasion of Dallas. Man, singing foreigners everywhere you look. I saw videos of the English at the Cowtown Coliseum in Fort Worth, singing Sweet Caroline. The Dutch get all jacked for this
Starting point is 00:14:09 Mexican circus music that they play. It sounds like there's about to be an accordion and a monkey pop out at any moment. The Dutch gets super jacked about that. But I'm telling you right now, that barbecue joint was filled. And this is, Steve, this is going to serve as a transition to another topic that I want to explore with you here today. But I sat down at a table and in front of me was about six Japanese. To the right of me were four Englishmen, young men, but Englishmen. The streets filled with red and white checkered jerseys because Croatia has come to town and Croatia literally took control of the streets out in front of our studio.
Starting point is 00:14:48 It got to be about a thousand Croats up and down the street. And downtown Dallas is not a place to be, but it was, and it is, right now during the World Cup. Anyway, the Japanese could not have been happier, smiling, laughing, sit down, oh here, we're from Japan. I'm like, yeah, I know, you're from Japan. And, like, enjoying their barbecue. And then, you know, here's the Englishmen.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And the Englishmen are sitting next to me. And I want to be careful here because it's really anecdotal. But they were a little sullen. Okay. I was tech—my son, Steve, are big soccer fans. I'm actually a pretty big soccer fan. I was telling my sons, outside of the U.S., who am I going to root for? And I was texting with my sons.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And I was like, I think I'll root for the English. Trader. I like Norway because of one particular player. I sort of want to root for Spain and I was just bouncing around the ideas and one of my son said the English why would you root for the English
Starting point is 00:15:47 and I'm like well you know yeah I mean they're kind of our cousins they're certainly our cultural distant cousins I watched the English Premier League my son replied they talk shit about America
Starting point is 00:16:01 all the time and the way we think of soccer just like our biggest antagonists. And that's where I'm going, Dan. So I started talking these Englishmen because at least they can speak the language and the Japanese really couldn't speak it very well. And we were talking about the game on the TV and I said to him, you know, like, you know, who do you guys like? Oh, I got a quick story. I'm going to tell you guys. I know I'm rambling. I walked up and the Japanese guys go, oh, you anchor? And I'm like, uh, actually yes, I am a news anchor. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:16:31 you don't know who I am, right? They're like, no. And I'm like, well, that's not. That's not. good. I'm walking in in a suit with Lego hair. I can't walk around looking like generic news anchored just in Japanese that have no idea what Fox News is. So like, that's a bad look for a will. But here's the deal. The English said, are you covering the World Cup? No, I do news in politics. And then they perked up for a flash second. And they go, oh, how's that going? Like, aren't you guys a shit show? And I go, awesome. We're on top, baby, and then it ended. You know, there was nowhere else to go.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Their face changed. The vibe changed. There was nowhere else to go with these Englishmen because they were sullen lefties here to kind of seem to me like my son said, just kind of poop on America, although they did love the barbecue. But again, I'm painting with a broad brush. I know there's Englishmen singing Sweet Carolina at the Cowtown Coliseum. That's just my quick observation from a tour around the World Cup. I think you're on to something here because I think there's something pretty big going on in the world when we look at the Anglosphere, at the English-speaking countries except for the United States.
Starting point is 00:17:44 All of them are trending in exactly the wrong direction and on multiple levels. So, for example, the UK, which you might even argue was the creator country of free speech, has now completely clamped down on free speech. When we look at our neighbors to the north in Canada, I was just giving a speech last week. Canada is in recession, the only advanced country in the world that is in a recession. Australia has become a disaster when it comes to free speech. And so when you look at the English-speaking world, X-U-S, there's a really bad trend going on there. And I think there is a sullenness, you know, to your point.
Starting point is 00:18:18 So there's something to that. And they really resent us that we're not along for that, for that Tardry ride. We're not along for their decline. And you know what pisses me off, Steve? So I sit there and I'm like, they did take a moment to praise the food and praise the barbecue. And I'm like, yeah. And I'm like, look around, man. You're in Dallas, Texas.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And I know that I'm being a bit of a homer right now. But if I had to say, hey, visit someplace that exemplifies what America could potentially offer you versus the path you have chosen in Europe. I would say a pretty good choice would be Dallas, Texas. What I mean by that is business is booming. The economy is humming. We're driving big damn trucks burning as much gas as we want. We're eating huge slabs of meat. We're walking with our leg spread because we've got a sense of testicular fortitude.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And you're pale and upset. Enjoy the air conditioning. Take a big, high-powered water pressure shower and enjoy this. And then ask yourself, hey, are we really something to be mocked? It's like the Trump American. By the way, you're in Dallas. Okay. You're not in L.A.
Starting point is 00:19:30 You're not in New York. Don't perk up when we talk politics because you might be. the outlier. So, I mean, part of me is like, can you not appreciate where you are and there's a reason we got this way? There's a, have you seen all these people? Boys, have you said, really quick, Pat, I know you hate the World Cup. You got to take some pride in this.
Starting point is 00:19:50 We are stadium maugging the world. Oh, yeah. Have you seen all that the way they're walking into AT&T and SOFI and even NRG and Houston? And even that travesty of MetLife out there in New Jersey, they're walking. in going, oh my God, am I in the future? Did I travel to another planet? These stadiums, Pat, you've seen that, right? People are all over the stadiums. Yeah, and we could even, you know, we're not even doing our college stadiums like in Tennessee or, you know, Tallahassee or Gainesville.
Starting point is 00:20:23 It's like, yeah, I mean, like, we're doing our A-list stadiums. Like, our B and C and D are better than all years. Well, I will say, okay, people are saying, you guys realize. you're not even visiting any of the top 10 biggest stadiums in America. So no Ann Arbor, no Ohio State. They're not getting to those that hold 100,000. But from a technological and sophistication standpoint, look, I mean, Darryl and Austin, which is great,
Starting point is 00:20:49 or Kyle Field in College Station, don't compare to AT&T. You walk into AT&T, which they're calling Dallas Stadium, it's like walking into a spaceship. I mean, the Japanese, okay, this is a different statement. The Japanese were blown away, and they know something. about making a nice TV. They're blown away by the giant big screen, you know? And it's, I'm telling you, man, you got to take some pride in this. And I just don't know, Steve, how these foreigners, and a lot of them are. A lot of them are coming. And like Dan said,
Starting point is 00:21:19 they feel lied to. And they're like, whoa, America's kind of awesome. But I'm not sure I'm getting that from the damn English. Yeah. Well, and I think part of that, too, and I can tell you this, so in my previous life, before politics, I was a hedge fund guy. So I was in London all the time for many years and used to love London. It has changed dramatically for the worst. And I'll give you one big reason why it's mass migration from the third world. London is just not very British anymore. And a lot of the UK is not terribly British anymore.
Starting point is 00:21:47 That's a choice they made. I think exactly the wrong choice. And I hope the United States is learning from that negative lesson of what has happened to Germany, what has happened to the UK, what's happened to Australia to some degree, and take pride in maintaining our culture, protecting our economy, our street safety, and protecting the way of life that we have built here and that we want to continue to build upon for our own citizens and do immigration in a really thoughtful and careful way in this country, not the lesson that we've seen from them. So I think it's wonderful that we've invited the world here. It's wonderful that they're spending a whole lot of money.
Starting point is 00:22:19 But let's not pick up too many of their ways. Let's let them pick up ours. Okay. Here's a perfect transition. But I want to make this transition with a little bit of a piece of information that I feel like going to be a downer to hear, because Steve has framed this as let's not let our country become what they've become, for example, in the UK. I just wanted, before we have this conversation, let you know of a stat. I believe the foreign-born population of the UK is somewhere around 6%, something like that, it's low. So we hear about the Muslim mayor of London, the third world takeover.
Starting point is 00:22:59 The foreign-born population of America is something like, What is it? Fifteen percent? It's way, way higher. It's triple the rate that is the UK. Now, a lot of that is driven by Latino migration from Central, South, and America and Mexico. But we are already way outpacing what they have in Europe. That being said, I do think, Steve, you're right. There's a canary in the coal mine effect on the way they have thought about it. There are cultural apologists, which is so weird because the English are cultural superiorists. I mean, they think, I do think there's like stats on the studies. Like, who has the most cultural superiority?
Starting point is 00:23:42 And I think South Korea always comes in at number one. Like South Korea's sense of cultural superiority is way over the rest of the world. Koreans think Koreans are better than everybody else on the planet. But come on. We're talking about the English here. This is not people who are. humble about their own culture. But there's a self-loathingness that is accompanied with that. And now we get to this. The British inquiry into the Pakistani rape gangs is out. Rupert Lowe
Starting point is 00:24:13 published it, I believe, yesterday. Folks, this is gross and mind-blowing. 250,000 young white girls repeatedly raped or gang raped in the UK. 87% according to this, but other estimates put it about 95% Muslim. Girls as young as 11 years old. 13-year-olds have been discovered with STIs. In one situation, Steve, in this report, it suggests the authorities took a girl back to the home of her abuse. abusers and said, have fun. These are largely Pakistani males. It's not Asian. That's how the press likes to frame this as Asian. And although Pakistan is in Asia, this is not as though the Japanese are
Starting point is 00:25:01 doing this in the UK. These are largely Pakistani Muslim men, and they have a network. We've talked about in the news. It's well known out there where they grab young white girls, often in destitute situations, kidnap them, get them on drugs and alcohol, and then imprison them essentially. and the neighborhood takes turns, raping them. And apparently also, one more stat, 13,000 of these guys who got busted, got let off with warnings. This is the kind of stuff that honestly should take down,
Starting point is 00:25:33 I don't think you can overstate it. This is the kind of stuff that can take down a civilization. Like if your civilization is tolerant of this, if your civilization covers up this, if your civilization calls an inquiry into this racist, you're a dead civilization. Right. Yeah, I think that is unfortunately the reality of where the British are.
Starting point is 00:25:53 And they either ignored or in many cases, as you point out, even facilitated this kind of systemic mass evil. And why did they do it in the supposed name of tolerance to supposedly prove that they were somehow noble and not racist and not bigoted in some way? But what did they actually tolerate? They tolerated evil. They tolerated evil perpetrated against some of the most innocent and vulnerable people in all of their. their society. And so yeah, that's my point, by the way, Will, is regarding mass migration to the United States. You're right. We are at the highest percentage, by the way, that we've ever been. We're even higher now than the Ellis Island days, both numerically and percentage, we're at highs.
Starting point is 00:26:31 But historically, America did immigration really well. Historically, we demanded assimilation. That has not been the case lately. And my point is, as a warning sign to the leftists out there, to the ruling class folks in the country who want to follow the European model, that it leads to misery. It leads to degradation and misery. And we see that in the worst example possible on this British storyline. So let's not follow that example. And, you know, I pulled this, by the way, significantly. I just pulled the state of Michigan, which I think is going to be a really important swing state, both for 2026 elections and 28. It normally is, of course, in presidential years. Michigan has the biggest population of Muslim migration into the United States. We asked Michigan
Starting point is 00:27:11 voters, are there too many or too few Muslims? By a six to one race, ratio, six to one, Michigan voters say too many Muslim migrants into the state of Michigan. Even among Kamala Harris voters, almost two to one, 1.8 to one, Kamala Harris voters in the state of Michigan saying too many Muslim immigrants into their state. So I think Americans, thankfully, are waking up to this and the Americans who have dealt with it most acutely, which is the citizens of Michigan, are sending the rest of the country a big warning. And by the way, Texas better be careful. Your state's got, I think, a brewing problem with this issue. Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Cain Country.
Starting point is 00:27:50 So the one thing about this issue, first of all, I saw you're polling, I saw you publish some of this, Stephen. I found it absolutely fascinating. Six to one rejection, two to one among Kamala Harris voters or AKA, well, I would say Democrats, but maybe a Kamala Harris voter is slightly different than a larger Democrat voter polling populace because some of those people that want to vote for El Sayed for Senator in Georgia or Dearborn Mayor would be self-described as Democrats. I don't know if they would be Kamala voters. So I think there might be – I don't know if it's a distinction without a difference, but I do think that's a different. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Two to one is remarkable as well. You know, I hear a lot about the Texas thing, and I live here, you know, and I grew up here, and it's definitely changed. It definitely has. I'm going to be honest, I can't yet put my finger on the quantifiable nature of the problem. For example, I can put my finger on the quantifiable nature of H-1B migration into North Texas. I know that 30% of the population of suburban Frisco is Indian. I can't yet put my finger on the numerical growth of Muslim migration in Texas. I know it's a big part of social media.
Starting point is 00:29:07 there are mosques. I know there have been attempts to create developments, which I think are largely stalled at this point. But my one issue with this, Steve, and tell me if you think there's a place from which to differ with me here is a lot of, for example, in Texas, a lot of this ire goes to Governor Greg Abbott. And I really don't know what he's supposed to do. That's the one thing I would say to everybody that's upset or what the state of Michigan is to do. Because immigration is a federal government issue. And if the federal government, brings in refugees from Afghanistan, or if the federal government issues H-1B visas, they don't have much control once in America where those people choose to move. And for example, on the Indian H-1B visas,
Starting point is 00:29:50 they choose, I know this, I've been told this. You know why they choose Texas? No state income tax, because they're no dummies. They're moving here for the same reason other people move here, you know, and so what is a governor? What is a state to do? This is a problem with your federal government and their approach to immigration. Listen, you're exactly correct because once somebody is here legally, they're allowed to go anywhere in the United States, obviously, so that, you know, they can't be deterrent state borders. So you are correct on this. You know, look, what I think is important here also, I am not demonizing the migrants themselves, most of whom are making a very rational choice, right? If I have a young man in India, am I going to come to America if I'm allowed?
Starting point is 00:30:26 Heck, yes, I am. I'm sitting in the criticism should go against the U.S. leadership, the U.S. politicians who are facilitating this mass migration from the third. world. And particularly when it comes to work visa. So I'm not demonizing the migrants themselves. They're making a very rational choice. But I'm saying we as Americans should demand that our leaders at the federal level, primarily, right, at the federal level, ensure that we get much more stringent and much more careful about how we do migration into this country. And the issue there is, first of all, I agree with you. I'm not interested in villainizing the migrant population, except to this extent, to the extent that there is fraud, fraud in a refugee program, fraud in a welfare program, fraud in an H-1B program.
Starting point is 00:31:14 And there is fraud, and in that case, go after the population itself, like the Somalis in Minnesota. And there's a ton of H-1B fraud when it comes to Indian migration. But it is the politicians in America that need to answer for their policies. And it's not one simply of cultural jingoism. It is a question of quantity and rate. So in other words, I have full faith that the vast majority of – we'll stick with Indians for the moment. Indian migrants come to America with aspirations to do great things and be good contributors to society. But the issue is at what rate and what quantity.
Starting point is 00:31:57 When I say rate, I mean like how quickly. Because what we need to, to your point, Steve, ensure is assimilation. And if you bring in too many people too fast, then there's no need to assimilate. Then you can create your own bubble communities. Then you can live the same way you did at home, but this way in America. And so do I want some of the best? I'm not actually with, I think it's not Congressman Andy Ogles. I can't remember who it is that's proposed this.
Starting point is 00:32:28 And I spoke with him recently about this. they want to shut down all H-1B, all of it, zero, zero. I'm probably not there. I think we need to ensure you prioritize Americans, but I accept that there are really bright, really smart, really good people out there that want to be Americans and can contribute, but it's a question of how much and how fast, so that when it does happen, we have a greater propensity for assimilation.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Yeah, I'll tell you, well, I would actually go even, Even further than the Congressman you're mentioning, I think it's time for an all-out pause on legal immigration to this country. I really do. It's time for us to assimilate the massive number of legal immigrants we have here. By the way, I say this as an immigrant son,
Starting point is 00:33:12 but just because of my lineage doesn't mean that we can't make decisions about what's best for this country in current terms, right? Not feeling guilty about what happened maybe in the past historically. But I think it's time for an all-out pause on migration into this country. Right now, the majority of legal immigrants, Legal immigrants in the United States are getting some form of welfare, some form of means-tested government assistance.
Starting point is 00:33:36 That tells me we're just not doing immigration very well. We're not using the proper filters. It's almost all based on your family relationships rather than your skills and your values. And on top of it, we're not demanding assimilation. And by the way, I think demanding assimilation gets much more difficult in a digital world where they can effectively live, maybe not even in a physical bubble, although there's some of that obviously going on, also in a digital bubble where they are more connected to their homeland than they are to this new country. And that just wasn't the case in the Ellis Island days.
Starting point is 00:34:05 You crossed that Atlantic Ocean. You were done with Italy, right? I mean, basically, right? And it was sink or swim. That is not the case now. So I think there are reasons why there are reasons why we should take a pause and really work on assimilated the migrants we have here and then restart immigration with really smart, stricter filters going forward about who we welcome into this country. Yeah, okay. Well, I would, if I'm sitting there in Steve, Cortes and Will Kane or elected officials, I'm open to the concept of a pause. That I'm not opposed to.
Starting point is 00:34:36 If, but my main goal would be to return to something like Congressman Ogles has introduced, which is an immigration system pre-1965. So pre-heart sellers and where we can really prioritize assimilation and contributing factors when we bring in immigration and totally shut down, pretty much totally. shut down chain migration. So family reunification. I've said this so, but you know, we have new viewers every day. Seventy-five to 80 percent of legal immigration is through the process of family reunification. So it is, I want to bring grandma, I want to be grandpa, I want to bring cousin, I want to bring them. And it's not even, it's not even the H-1B thing. The H-1B thing is the front door, and then the chain migration is the back door that everybody comes through. And it just fills it up.
Starting point is 00:35:29 So I think if we got those things accomplished, we would do great, great things. I mean, it would be really good for America. Yeah. No, I'm with you. Listen, Hart Siller was one of the worst mistakes in American history. We have Ted Kennedy largely to thank for that, or to blame. I really should say, when I say thank, I'm being sarcastic, of course, for that mistake. and it has been a multi-decade-long mistake,
Starting point is 00:35:52 but one that we can correct. I mean, look, America has done a whole lot of immigration at times. We've done almost zero immigration at times in our country's history. And immigration is not in and of itself some inherent good. It can be done very well. It can be really valuable to our country. But it is not a virtue in and of itself to be pursued with reckless abandon. And that's unfortunately what we've done in recent decades.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Now, it's slowing down thanks to President Trump, right? last year, as a matter of fact, was the first year of negative net migration since 1965. So kudos to President Trump, to Vice President Vance. We are starting to get a lot stricter, right, about who we welcome into this country. We're starting to get stricter about worker visas. And so there was net out migration, also getting stricter and I think more discerning about the masses of university students who come from all over the world, particularly from China, from an enemy nation, hundreds of thousands of students taking spots that really should be going to.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Americans, they're starting to realize, hey, we may not be as welcome now any longer in the United States. So the trend, you know, it's turning to a super tanker around because it's been the other way for so many decades. But the trend is starting to turn. And I think that will be a good thing. And again, I'm not saying that to demon. Look, my name's Cortez. Okay. I love Latinos. I love what Hispanics have done in this country. I love on the whole what immigration has done. But I also take an economic, primarily economic look, also cultural, look at how immigration is being done right now. And I don't think it's serving the interests of American citizens. And if that's the case, then, hey, there's nothing wrong. There's nothing immoral or xenophobot about us saying, we're going to hit the pause button,
Starting point is 00:37:26 and then we're going to do this a better way. And I totally agree with you. Go back to pre-1965, and you'd have a much better system in this country of immigration. Let's take a quick break. But we have to answer the question. Are you gay enough to get a contract in California coming up on Will Kane country? All right, 10-4-Pat, 2-A, Stan. The question now for YouTube.
Starting point is 00:37:48 mainly is, are you gay enough to get money in California? Here's the headline from the City Journal. Article by Chris Rufo and Austin Huford, inside California's gay certification program, the state is pressuring utilities to award $633 million in contracts to LGBT businesses. Okay, so here's how the story goes. Everyone listening and watching knows, I would presume, that a lot of governments, a lot of state governments,
Starting point is 00:38:13 I believe, and Steve probably knows this better than I do, but the feds do as well. They incentivize private contractors doing business with the government to fulfill basically some diversity quotas. So are you a minority-owned business? Well, then you get an extra couple points in your ability to earn a government contract. I got a concrete business. I want to pour a highway.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Well, guess what? I'm black-owned. Oh, well, then you're going to get a really good shot to get the contract over the non-diversity business. Same thing with women. Women-owned businesses. We've known that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:49 In 2014, California began this process. They're now pursuing pretty heavily to also include LGBT businesses, okay? And what it amounts to is about $633 million in contracts for California. But here's what's fascinating, right? How do they know if you're LGBT? And the answer is you go through a certification process. That's wild. All right?
Starting point is 00:39:18 That's wild. Dan, here's how you get that New York contract. I'm sure New York has something like this. I'm sure New York has something like this. It's ingrained in the city. You can get a letter, number one, three ways. Number one, you can get a letter from an official LGBT organization. So I don't know who that is, like the LGBTQ contractors of America.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I don't know. You can get a letter from them. Number two, this is my favorite one. you can provide a newspaper article calling you gay. Damn, I don't have one of those. So if there's ever been, you know, if you've ever been called gay in the newspaper, you're good to go.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I've text from my buddy, that's about it. I don't know why that's so funny to me. Like, what newspapers? What newspapers? There's a lot of newspapers. You know, there's a little weekly newspaper out there in the middle of nowhere, you know, California. you, they're willing to call me gay.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Look, see, they printed it. I'm gay. Don't clip that. Or you can get a letter, three letters, three letters from people calling you gay. You can get three people to write letters in and say, Dan is super gay. I have a couple friends that would do that for me.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Please let him pour the concrete. He's super gay. It's hilarious if you think about the guns. government vetting your homosexuality. Yeah. You know, Will, one of the things that really strikes me, there's so many things that are absurd about this, but one of the things is that ostensibly the reason
Starting point is 00:40:57 that you want minority-owned businesses is because economically they have not thrived historically, right? So you want to assist them in their development. When it comes to gays, they're the highest-earning people in American society, and in large part because most of them have no dependence, okay, so they can enjoy their income just themselves. So like the idea that there's sort of an assistance program for this generally really privileged group, that in and of itself, of course, you know, is pretty absurd.
Starting point is 00:41:22 But then once we get into the certification aspects, of course, I mean, you can't help but scoff. And imagine how seriously, though, these people probably take themselves who are developing, you know, the criteria there. Now, one thing I would like to propose if I want to ever apply to this. By the way, one of those people that takes themselves seriously, I'd love to meet them. Yeah. I do. I want to be in that room when they're like, nope, not gay enough. Is it a 1 to 10 scale?
Starting point is 00:41:44 What is it? Well, spectrum of color. One thing I would put on my application, even though I'm not at all gay. However, I get accused of it all the time, mainly by my buddies,
Starting point is 00:41:54 because I love musicals. And they know how much I love how many musicals I have seen. So I would put that in my application. I would say your application is close to being filed, Steve. There might be an article about it now. I don't know. Oh, man. Yeah, what codes that for you will?
Starting point is 00:42:12 What, though, Steve? What code's at? Do you have anything in your life? We've talked about this. Yeah. You hold umbrellas like Jesse Waters said? No. Did he say that's gay?
Starting point is 00:42:23 Yeah. Carrying an umbrella? I agree with him on that. I don't feel right, usually, with an umbrella. I mean, we've talked about our fans sometimes. I like soccer. Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I don't know. But actually, hey, but Steve, There's a substantive real point here about you like a musicals. Okay. So what world are you living in, California? We're not living in this neat, clean world where there's only gay and straight. Okay? That world is long gone.
Starting point is 00:42:59 So are you discriminating against the orange line? What are you talking about? Like, I don't even know what the orange line is. I've got the trans flag up in my office or in my studio. of stuff. I don't need, what's the light blue line? I don't know what that is. There's so many lines on the flag.
Starting point is 00:43:19 There is an infinite number of letters in the plus at the end of LGBTQ plus. The word queer itself is basically undefinable. And so, like, who gets to be in? If you walk in or you apply as an asexual, I believe, I'm not 100% positive. One of these lines on the flag is for asexual, I think. polyamorous or any number of these things, right? We're living in a world where the umbrella constituency is gigantic and encompasses everything. Lesbian is orange.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Lesbian is orange? Yep. Pink for women, blue for men. What's light blue? Transgender men. Non-binary is yellow. What's the... Intersex is yellow with the circle. It's the intersex.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Oh, intersex. Royal Blue is cowboy fan. He had that in the chamber. He did have that in the chamber. But you see my point, Steve? They're discriminating against somebody. California's, they're discriminating against dudes who like musicals. They're discriminating against asexuals.
Starting point is 00:44:37 They're discriminating against the polyamorous. Like this attempt to include you know, special inclusion exemptions inevitably excludes. I'm waiting for the lawsuit. Right. By the way, speaking of the Dallas Cowboys, you might have seen a new season of Dallas Cowboys just dropped. And to your Japanese friends who are so impressed with AT&T Stadium,
Starting point is 00:45:00 have they been watching the DCC shows because they'll think that's even 10 times more impressive than whatever building we've constructed there in Irving, Texas. Oh, I don't watch that. I don't think about it. I did see the Scots up in Boston marveling it. Were those Patriots cheerleaders? Who are they marveling at? And I'm just going to say, hey, Scots, if you like the New England Patriots cheerleaders, wait until you get down to Texas. Yep. That was the Scots. And they were, one thing I love, the Scots do this, but the whole world,
Starting point is 00:45:32 I think, does this, is they all come to the U.S. and they want to sing country roads. Isn't that kind of a blast? It's become almost an international American anthem. but they sing i will say steve i did a semester of law school in london and i traveled it was a boondoggle i didn't learn a damn thing about e u law it was a total boondoggle we just traveled and a buddy of mine and i went to greece and we're in greece for a couple weeks a week i don't i can't remember how long i did love this about foreigners i do think it's the english that do this well they all love to sing and i love that singing like they just start having fun and there's singing good songs like country roads to steve's point you know another one they do and i saw
Starting point is 00:46:15 a video i think it was the germans doing this in houston the civius i saw american pie they sing that one bye-bye you know miss american or american pie took my chevy to the levee but the levy was right man they just back then when greece they would sing that song at the top of their lungs it's so much fun i don't know what that is is americana type thing they love singing these types of songs yeah there's english Premier League that sing like Savage Garden and they sing all these sorts of other songs that's hilarious. Thank you, Will. We just got a huge...
Starting point is 00:46:47 Sweet Caroline? Yeah. Yeah. What? For me singing? You had to go sing it. Yeah, now we're going to get demonetize. Oh, really? Is that like happy birthday? You can't sing it on air? I just messed that up.
Starting point is 00:47:01 That's right. We'll cut it up. Yeah. American Pie, Country Road, Sweet Caroline. They really get in on these American songs. I mean, those are all pretty Americana-level songs. You know, that's good stuff. As has been Steve Cortez hanging out with this for an extra long period of time today. I didn't expect to keep you that long, Steve. It's been a fun conversation. Thank you for hanging out with this. Steve is doing his own thing. Steve Cortis investigates. He did this thing. The poll he just
Starting point is 00:47:27 shared with us a moment ago about the acceptance or the feelings about the Muslim population in Michigan, which I've got it up right now. You can see it as reporting. by The Daily Signal, and you can check out his stuff at Steve Cortes investigates it. Steve, it's good to see you. Thank you so much. Hey, appreciate it. Thank you all for having. Appreciate it. Thank you all for having. Appreciate it. All right. There you go. Steve Cortis here on Will Kent Country. Boys, I just, this World Cup stuff has been, I'm telling you. So if you live, this is my position, if you live in Los Angeles, Boston, Seattle, Houston, New York, Philadelphia, if you live in a city where this is happening, where you're hosting games, and how many cities is it? I think it's 13. Is it 13 cities in America? I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Go. I'm not saying you've got to spend the thousands of dollars on the tickets. Wherever people gather in your city, and they're also fan fest events, I'm not super into fan fest events, like organize things. I'm more like seeing the streets and the bar takeovers. If you see that, go. It is so much fun, because they're having so much fun. And Baylor and I, the producer, were talking.
Starting point is 00:48:39 about this. I don't think Americans, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know that Americans do this. I was saying, like, what do these Japanese dudes do for a living? Like, how do they come over here for so long? You know what I mean? Like, I don't think this is a short trip. It's not like how we do it. It's not like I'm going to take Friday off. South Africa one. Go to the game. Yeah. And be back on Monday for work. They're here for a couple of weeks, just having a hell of a time. We're built very differently As countries I think that's right Patrick
Starting point is 00:49:13 Yeah Like I take a day off And then we're right back to it But it's like them they They take like weeks off Socialism, you know Yeah A two week vacation in America is
Starting point is 00:49:25 Don't you think it's fair to say that's huge Like that's huge Massive That's your biggest deal of the year For sure that you're doing And whenever you meet a foreigner It's like how long are you off If your answer is like a week
Starting point is 00:49:36 Or no better yet When you go there Like how long you hear And you're like a week, right? They're like, oh, we're the short trip, you know? They take the month of August off. Like in Europe. And yet they can afford to come do this.
Starting point is 00:49:49 This is not cheap to do this. To go to the game, obviously it's not cheap. The travel, the food, this is an expensive getaway for them. And they have a job where they can take that much time off and afford to do this. that's kind of they literally live Is that what they're saying When they dunk on us?
Starting point is 00:50:10 Is that what they say When they dunk on us? Exactly Exactly America I guess that's a dunk Yeah You know I'm really impressed though Not just by the World Cup stuff
Starting point is 00:50:23 But like their takeovers of things like You know Other sporting events So like I think we have a clip of Oh yeah Fenway The Scots taking over Finway Which is just awesome That's so fun.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And I will say, singing. Of course. I'm not a soccer guy, but like the energy that they're bringing to sports and bringing to the country, like our sports are very corporate now. And I want to see more of that kind of. Well, Fenway, Fenway at the Red Sox game, during the broadcast, during the game, they were singing, and now I would walk 500 miles, the entire stadium, just like it was a soccer match.
Starting point is 00:51:17 And it was insane seeing that in a baseball game. It was so cool. The announcers loved it. The other fans loved it. It was amazing. But we used to have that. They used to have marching bands at Fenway. When Finway opened, they'd have like the people rooting for them.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Like they would just have bands and they'd sing and they'd shoot. It was very European in that way. Well, so one of the things that irritates me and I see this. And some of our longtime fans like Florida Petty gal is posting at the show on X and Patrick's going back and forth with her because you're enjoying being the curmudgeon about soccer. And I know that you're actually trying to wind me up, Patrick. I know that's what you're doing. But not completely. I think you also mean it.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I think it's, I really do think you're making a mistake. You're making a mistake. like for yourself. You are depriving yourself of something that's really fun. And to your point on, like, how they, this is one of the appeals. I totally agree of international soccer.
Starting point is 00:52:28 And if you think, if you fancy yourself as I don't like soccer, I like college football, I'm like, dude, they're the closest to each other. This is the two sports that I would argue are closest to each other. You're 100% right about American sports
Starting point is 00:52:43 being corporatized. I mean, we play. the NBA finals and it's shots of Timothy Salomey and Ben Stiller the entire time watching the Knicks. But even setting aside the expense, the passion level is insane. It is the only comp, I think, is college football.
Starting point is 00:53:06 That's the only comp. How much they love it, the way they behave around it. And by the way, I think that they, it's not all roses. It's pride. is a real deal. Hooliganism is a real deal in England. It's not all positive, but their love for this and the way they celebrate it and have fun and live and breathe it, I mean, the closest we've got, because it's actually more than college football, the closest we got is like, you know, roll into some, roll into Knoxville, Tennessee on a Saturday in the fall or roll into, you know, Tuscaloosa or Baton Rouge. on a Saturday in the fall. And that's the closest you're going to get to honestly,
Starting point is 00:53:50 you know, rolling into your random town in England on a Saturday or Sunday for a game. I want to go to Birmingham so bad. Like, I would love to go to a villa match and see that. I think it would be the most different experience I've ever experienced in my life in a sporting event. If I just went to that stadium. It's not crazy, but, you know.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I plan to do that. I want to do that with my two boys. But here's the way I would do that trip, Dan. since we're city fans, I'd want to go to Manchester, go to the Etihad. But it's going to be the most like one of these U.S. stadiums where it's like glorious and big and sophisticated and therefore also a little bit corporatized. Oh, true. And Villa Park, which is Aston Villa, would be great. It's old.
Starting point is 00:54:33 But I would want to go to like, really honestly, third, fourth level, soccer. Yeah. I'd want to go down to teams you've never heard of. That's where it's going to be like high school football on steroids. Right. You know what I mean? Where the town turns out for that team? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:51 We did you bring back passion for sports here. That's one thing those English dudes said to me. I said, who do you root for? And the guy's like, I don't watch the Premier League. That's what that Englishman said. I said, oh. And then he named some random team I'd never heard of, you know, that he roots for. Because that's how they are.
Starting point is 00:55:06 You know, they're like, well, this is my team right here. And they're never on TV. And they're in the third division. Like where they're from? But that's, that's, yeah. Yeah. Right. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:17 All right, before we go, I just want to hit this story really quickly because it's just fun. Details are coming out about the investigation in the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the latest headline is the Southern Poverty Law Center's boss funneled $1.2 million to a neo-Nazi group, with whom she was a lover of one of them. Explain the SPLC to people. Southern Poverty Law Center is the, thank you, I guess I took that for granted. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Is that the nation's preeminent hate group watcher? Is that what it is? Yeah. Yes. I would say so. Between them and 80, I believe. I don't know when they started, but it really kind of started, in my mind, like, hunting down KKK back in the day. 71.
Starting point is 00:56:05 And it's evolved into hunting down, you know, obviously. People that support the nuclear family. No, I mean, no, they've classified everything as a hate group. Charlie Kirk was on there. Really? Right before he died. Charlie Kirk was on there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:27 And the real things that they were supposed to be searching for, like, I don't know, white supremacist neo-Nazi groups have largely died. This group, is it the alliance? I can't. Something alliance. had dwindled, they say, from like 2,000 members to like 20 by like 2013, 20 members in this group. And the SPLC's propping them up financially and propaganda-wise. And this lady, Heidi Birch, 58 years old, no prize, no prize, was sleeping with one of the neo-Nazis that they were funneling money to, not just that. they apparently owned a house together and had a joint bank account as well.
Starting point is 00:57:15 What are they talking about? And 66% of the money in the account, this joint bank account that they shared, was coming from the Southern Poverty Law Center. So it wasn't like they were, you know, had this account where they were putting their wages in. Most of it was coming from the Southern Poverty Law Center. It's absolutely incredible. It's absolutely, it's a movie. Yeah, you're right. That's a script.
Starting point is 00:57:40 So what would you do for $1.2 million? And I don't know if I could do it. You talking about her? Yeah, this neo-Nazi guy. I mean, he was, he's something else. I mean. We don't know him. He's not been identified.
Starting point is 00:57:55 His name or his picture. But you're talking about he's something else because you're taking a look at the picture of Heidi Birch? Yeah, you have to, it's like that one meme of the guy with the old lady after the Elon Musk SpaceX IPO like me
Starting point is 00:58:13 he's on he's on the front of the yacht with that old lady it says me with the SpaceX lunch lady after the SpaceX IPO It's like that I just like Google
Starting point is 00:58:24 oh boy yeah man oh boy yeah Jesse Kelly had a funny tweet he posted something like everybody's talking about her but what about this dude like don't you got to get your Nazi card
Starting point is 00:58:36 taken away if this is what you're like. He's a narc. Oh, my God, man. Well, he is getting funding. I mean, like, I think he's doing the job. They do say fear and intimacy are very tied close together, so maybe there's something there. Well, to be fair, I mean, maybe he wasn't, you know, he was a mole. She had turned him.
Starting point is 00:59:02 He wasn't a legit neo-Nazi anymore. I did see some things, like, in the article, talking about what they do is they would get these guys who wanted to quit the organization and convince them to stay in the organization to be a spy. You see what I'm saying? Like FBI did that for a while. But still, you're funneling money to them. I don't care the legitimacy of the beliefs of the Nazi you're screwing. You're funneling money, $1.2 million. And by the way, benefiting and profiting yourself. You know, you're getting the money, too. It's a joke.
Starting point is 00:59:40 The SPL, it's not a joke, it's a crime. The SPLC needs to be freaking shut down. Prosecuted. We need to shut down. It's been a fun episode of Will King Country. Appreciate you hanging out with us here today. Make sure you follow us on Spotify or Apple, and we will see you again next time. Listen to ad free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcast.
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