Will Cain Country - Today In Propaganda: SignalGate, Double Tap, and Tyler Robinson Exposed! (ft. Jeffery Mead)

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

Story 1: Mainstream media outrage erupted over Secretary of War Pete Hegseth’s alleged “double tap” strike on Venezuelan drug runners but the narrative doesn’t hold up, just like their narrati...ves on "SignalGate" and Tyler Robinson's political ideology. Will dismantles their propaganda and then exposes the contradictions in modern Democrats' failed positions using former President Joe Biden’s own words. Story 2: Social and Political Commentator Jeffery Mead helps Will break down NFL Wide Receiver Odell Beckham Jr.’s flimsy financial advice. Plus, Jeffery and Will discuss the American education system’s “accommodation problem.” Story 3: Which teams actually have a shot at winning the College Football National Championship? Will and The Crew go over the rankings and share their picks. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠@willcainnews⁠⁠)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:30 One, faster than the fall of the Maryland man. The double tap on narco-terrorism boats, story has fallen apart in days. Today, in propaganda. Two, everyone has a disability. Inflation, grade inflation, health care inflation. Have you heard about disability inflation? No, I'm not talking about the boarding line at Southwest. I'm talking about all the kids with ADHD and extra time in college with Jeffrey Meade.
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Starting point is 00:02:09 channel on the Will Kane Show, where we will have exclusive breaking news about the case for the Hall of Fame by one Roger Clemens. Make sure you tune in this week at the Fox News Channel and the Will Kane Show. that's where you get the truth everywhere else you get the propaganda and let's start there today today in propaganda story number one inspector general report pentagon washington dcccc signal gate headline from nbc News. Breaking. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth shared classified information and a leaked signal chat that could have imperiled troops. A watchdog report finds. The headlines screaming across the mainstream media today competing with whether or not narco boats have been
Starting point is 00:03:16 double-tapped amounting to a war crime as a revisit on the initial attack on Secretary of War Pete Hegeseth, and the Inspector General's report suggesting he imperiled American troops by posting classified information on signal. Well, Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell says that's an exact opposite and wrong reading of the Inspector General's report. Parnell has posted on X the following. This is a lie. The report specifically says no classified information was shared. Good Lord. Fake news in overtime. What is true? An initial glance, an initial reading of the Inspector General's report shows that the Secretary of War has the power to determine what is classified. The Inspector General's report seems to suggest he should not have used his personal phone to communicate that information, but he does have the power to do so not violating any particular law. The Signalgate story is the perfect example of the way and the motivation behind stories that not just bleed their way into the public's consciousness, but dominate the public's consciousness. If I went right now down to a diner in Dallas and had breakfast, it's very likely that conservative friends, knowing that I am friends with Secretary of War Pete Hackseth would make a joke about whether.
Starting point is 00:04:53 or not, you know, anything classified as being texted out on an unsecured line. Why? Because that's what bleeds into the public consciousness, not a detailed dive into what is exactly the truth. It just underlines the power of initial narrative. An initial narrative is really created in the first 24 to 36 hours of a story hitting someone's consciousness. The old saying is a lie makes its way around the world three times before truth has the chance to get its pants on. That's certainly the case when you look at the double-tap strike story of narco-terrorism boats in the Caribbean. The initial story from The Washington Post painted a picture of Secretary of War Pete Heggseth running around the Pentagon, hair on fire, yelling, kill them all. And that image created a narrative where sitting politicians, Democrat politicians, and the Senate and Congress, are now calling it a war crime, what's happened in the Caribbean.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Let's see if we can put our pants on and get to the truth. Here is how the Washington Post created that initial narrative, how it solidified the story in the public's mind. Headline, Hexeth order on First Caribbean Boat Strike officials say, kill them all. can just imagine it. Former Fox and Friends Weekend host running around inappropriately yelling, kill them all. And if that's what you want to believe, if that's the image you already had in your mind, if that's the image that Minority Chuck Schumer managed to lodge between your ears, then that's going to be somehow believable. But it is a story that literally fell apart in a matter of days, in a matter of days. ABC News, Martha Radditz.
Starting point is 00:06:46 had to admit as much in the last 24 hours. New information, according to a source familiar with the incident, the two survivors climbed back onto the boat after the initial strike. They were believed to be potentially in communication with others and salvaging some of the drugs. Because of that, it was determined they were still in the fight and valid targets. A JAG officer was also giving legal advice. So again, David, that video will be key.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Bradley will be on the hill tomorrow behind closed door. A lot of details, really, in that one little clip from ABC. Reports out of the New York Times following up on the Washington Post suggested that Heggseth, in fact, wasn't even in the room during the second strike, that he had established the rules of engagement prior to Admiral Bradley calling the game time decisions on when and when not to strike the narco-terrorists. in the Caribbean. Then we have the report that the video actually reveals these individuals, as reported there by Raddits, and now, in a secondary report from the New York Times,
Starting point is 00:07:58 that they climbed back into the boat. Not only did they climb back into the boat, but they reached for a radio and called for help, all of which, by the way, was part of a preset list of requirements that established the rules of engagement in the same. these strikes on narco terrorists. If, according to reports, the guidelines read, they are helpless in the water, then they will be rescued, arrested, as has been done, by the way, on several occasions now, in other narco-terrorist strikes. But if they rejoin the fight, if they remain hostile, actions which could include radio for help to other narco-terrorists, then they are deemed hostile and they will be subject to other strikes.
Starting point is 00:08:48 This is not inconsistent what we've seen from the rules of engagement and war in every theater. In the days since the initial story popped up in the Washington Post, you've heard from military leaders, but also special forces operatives who said, what are you talking about? This is exactly what we did every time in Afghanistan. If we dropped a drone bomb, if we attacked in any way and dudes took off running and weren't killed in the initial strike, what did we do? we hunt them down and we killed them.
Starting point is 00:09:16 And now we learn that even more protections were put into place when it comes to these narco strikes than what we heard from other theaters of war, including, don't let us slip your mind or slip the attention. Radditt saying a JAG lawyer was present during the decision-making process, presumably in a skiff or in a situation room. This story has fallen apart faster than the Maryland man. The stories they want you to believe it is that the Fox and Friends Weekend host, co-host, was running around the Pentagon with his hair on fire yelling about, kill them all. When in fact, we had a preset list for the rules of engagement. Charitable, one might add, if they're helpless in the water,
Starting point is 00:10:01 then we'll continue to go ahead and rescue them, different than what we've done in other theaters of war. and we kept a jag lawyer present during the decision-making process where the game-time decision was not made by the Secretary of War, but rather Admiral Bradley. But that doesn't fit, you see, that doesn't fit the war crimes narrative. And the war crimes narrative only fits
Starting point is 00:10:26 if you're operating from the conclusion that Hegset is unqualified, that he is cartoonish, that he is juvenile. I'm trying to remember all the words that have been uttered by for him. example, Minority Leader Chuck Schumer in just the last 24 hours, and that more importantly, he works for President Donald Trump, and that your ultimate motivation isn't the Geneva Convention, but that your ultimate motivation is Trump derangement syndrome. However, motivation, and by the way, hypocrisy, inconsistent application. We need some evidence to that really quickly. How about this? This is former president, Joe Biden, in 1989, talking about going after narco terrorists.
Starting point is 00:11:18 We think we should do more to stem the flow of drugs across our borders, and we think we should go one step further. Let's go after the drug lords where they live with an international strike force. There must be no safe haven for these narco terrorists. they must know it. We have to lock up the dealers for a long, long time, and we have to attack the source from which the drugs come. And we have to do that, not a piece of the time, but all at once. And we have to do it now. 1989, Joe Biden, we have to go after the narco-terrorists. His word, not an invented term in 2025 to apply the authorization of military force beyond al-Qaeda and ISIS into drug cartels.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But a term that has been around for 30-plus years. and asking Americans to get on board with going after them where they are. Not piece by piece, but all at once. A position more aggressive than the one taken today by the Trump administration. There are people, by the way. I think Senator Rampal is a consistent critic of executive power when it comes to war and that Congress still retains the power to conduct war. But that consistent motivation does not apply to my lawyer leader, Chuck Schumer,
Starting point is 00:12:57 to Senator Mark Kelly, to Senator Chris Murphy, to former President Joe Biden. Because hypocrisy and TDS explain the propaganda. But they don't absolve. the power of the propaganda. That initial 36 hours, even if it comes undone, as quickly as the Maryland man, is so powerful. It's already done a lap around the world, maybe two. And the truth is still getting its pants on.
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Starting point is 00:13:53 What's the truth? Who's responsible for the assassination? 25% of Americans less than believe the answer correctly is identified as Charlie Kirk's killer as left wing. Only 24% of likely voters know Charlie Kirk's killer. was left wing. That is some successful lapse around the world in the world of propaganda today. Let's talk about this. Plus, this amazing, something I've run into personally, and now there's been a report written on this, the massive inflation in disability. What do I mean by that? Not the wheelchairs lined up to board on a Southwest Airlines flight,
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Starting point is 00:16:59 Streaming live at the Will Kane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page, but I always hear for you by following us at Spotify or on Apple. Stunning new story, by the way. Really stunning. So everybody's pushing back on ice amidst record, incredible, scandalous fraud in Minnesota, the Minnesota Chief of Police,
Starting point is 00:17:15 the Minnesota or the Minneapolis mayor, all talking not about Keith Ellison or Somali fraud rings when it comes to fake autism claims, but talking about ICE coming in to Minneapolis and going after illegal immigrants. So the city of New York apparently has arrested something like 7,000 illegal immigrants, but they haven't turned them over to ICE. they haven't participated in the deportation, detainer process. You know what they've done instead? Release them back onto the streets.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Take a look at this headline from the New York Post. Chilling new details emerge about killer migrants responsible for 29 homicides sprung from New York jails instead of being handed off to ice. Instead of turning over these illegal immigrants to ICE to be deported, New York so opposed, so opposed to participate. in any way, along with the federal government, with DHS, with ICE, that they're putting murderers back on to the streets. What an insane place today that we live in for the Democrat Party. A lot's changed. I'm willing to admit the Republican Party has changed, and I think for most part, for the good.
Starting point is 00:18:24 But along with that, because for every ying, there's a yang, there has been a change in the Democrat Party. And Democrat Party now, only North Star being opposite Donald Trump. Trump has put them in a position where they sound nothing like their former self. It was bipartisan in the past, putting bad guys into jail, deporting illegal immigrants, going after drug cartels. This was bipartisan because it was common sense, because it was an obvious value of the American people. But the Democrat Party today is release illegal immigrants, even if they're murderers,
Starting point is 00:19:00 protect narco terrorists. Why? Because Donald Trump wants to do the opposite. And they find themselves in a position today where they sound very different. different from, for example, 30 plus years ago and Joe Biden. It doesn't matter whether or not the person that is accosting your son or daughter or my son or daughter, my wife, your husband, my mother, your parents. It doesn't matter whether or not they were deprived as a youth. It doesn't matter or not whether or not they had no background that enabled them to have to become socialize into the fabric of society.
Starting point is 00:19:42 It doesn't matter whether or not they're the victims of society. The end result is they're about to knock my mother on the head with a lead pipe, shoot my sister, beat up my wife, take on my sons. So I don't want to ask what made them do this? That is so different than what we hear from today, from Democrats. Joining us now is social and political commentator Jeffrey Mead. What's up, Jeffrey? Man, that is different, right? That is a wild. Man, the story of day is, yeah, but what did society do to make this person do what they did to society?
Starting point is 00:20:23 Yeah, I mean, it's kind of crazy. Again, you see a theme with Democrats, you know, not wanting to talk about personal accountability, decision making, not wanting to hold people accountable for their actions and trying to give people an out for terrible actions. And eventually that leads to more terrible actions. So, yeah. To some extent, it can become understandable in that it's curious from a macro perspective, how do you solve it?
Starting point is 00:20:47 Like, you solve it, we know in part with accountability by putting people in jail, by administering punishment. But you would also like to go, well, are there social ills that we can address that make them less likely, these incidences less likely, to happen but we've gone beyond that curiosity that that understanding into that being uh if not forgiveness then a mitigating factor oh wow you had a rough upbringing maybe we're going to take that into account here when it comes to whether or not you should be punished or held accountable
Starting point is 00:21:23 for selling these drugs selling this fentanyl that killed these kids yeah i mean It's interesting to me because they never talk about, they talk about the system, but they don't talk about the inputs that possibly led up to this person doing those things. So, for example, they don't talk about, you know, single, single mothers raising children. They don't talk about fathers not being in the home. They don't talk about the differences in how children turn out on average, typically, when they're raised with a father in the home, when they're not. So it's interesting to me that they don't ever talk about those things. They say they want to solve the problem, but they don't actually seem to want to talk about the root of those. problems and actually work to solve the roots of those problems, probably because it requires
Starting point is 00:22:06 accountability and telling people, hey, you actually have to do better. You might need to do this. You might need to do that. And it makes them uncomfortable actually having to tell people things that maybe aren't so nice. You know a perfect example of this, Jeffrey? And this actually shows the need for accountability, but also what you're talking about, the factors that do lead someone to potential criminality. Two days. I took your advice. I took your recommendation. So, But when you say, I always ignore you, I want you to hear this. I started last night the Sean Combs' reckoning documentary on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Two days. It's phenomenal. Told you. It's really good. Told you. I didn't know that this was the documentary done by 50 cent. And I had forgotten he bought this footage from a videographer that followed Combs around in modern day. But he goes deep into the history.
Starting point is 00:23:02 of Combs. I believe it's four episodes. I'm only about one and a half in. And Jeffrey, this is why I'm bringing it up. Like, Combs should 100% be responsible and accountable for the things that he's done. But one of the things you learn in this documentary is he grew up without his father. And he mythologized his father. At least this is the telling, according to this documentary, and 50 cents. He mythologized his father, who was supposedly this drug dealer. However successful or big time his father would have been, but he was murdered in New York City when Combs was just a little boy. And so this street life gangster image he had of his dad was almost something he was always trying to live up to because he didn't have a dad to give him a model, to teach him how to act. And I think it's a pretty good example of maybe some of the contributing factors that led Combs down this path.
Starting point is 00:23:58 still ultimately he has to be accountable for the honestly like wake of victims on various levels and different types of victims throughout his life yeah i definitely do think obviously he still should be held accountable and you know that very well could play a part in it you know he could have saw something or lack of use his imagination kind of imagine this is what it is and made that his version of whatever he wanted it to be and then built that into his reality and acted on it I mean, that could very well be true. Two of days, jumping in the conversation here with me and Jeffrey for just one moment. I didn't realize this was also going to be a deep dive into whether or not Puff Daddy played a role in killing Biggie Smalls, or not Biggie Smalls, but killing Tupac, which resulted in ultimately the murder of B.I.G. as well.
Starting point is 00:24:49 But I will say, Jeffrey, I don't know if you've watched this on Netflix, but it's really good. I have not. My antennas are up a little bit, too. The guys that they have in this documentary, like, you have to afford them some credibility because these guys were around Combs his entire life. Yes. But they are willing to say at this point
Starting point is 00:25:16 that he's basically responsible for everything. Like, they are willing to say he put a hit out on Tupac. They're willing to say, he did all of this stuff. And there's a little bit of me that's going, man, is he really everything that everyone always said bad about? Are all the conspiracies true?
Starting point is 00:25:36 Because these guys, I don't know. My antennas are up a little bit, two days. Well, he got away with a lot of it because he had a lot of loyalty back in the day because he had that kind of image. But then his megalomania got a little too big, and then he started losing that loyalty and trust around people.
Starting point is 00:25:52 And that's when people started turning on and weren't afraid to talk. So that's kind of what happened. Yeah, that's clearly, clearly he burns some relationships along the way of people who would have protected him or remained silent or even been loyal to him. And he continued to sort of, yeah,
Starting point is 00:26:07 lean into this egomania, megalomania that left a lot of people behind. Jeffrey, you're young. First of all, are you a rap guy? You into rap? Yes. Okay. But like, you're young.
Starting point is 00:26:22 But not like old rap. What? no i don't like old right i knew that's what's going to happen here i knew it i did i did i could feel it coming dan i could feel it coming that i mean too young you know here's geoffrey right jeffery's black okay does he like rap i don't want to make the assumption so i need to ask the question but the the overriding factor and characteristic of geoffrey that we need to remember here is dude is young and talking about teupac and and biggie and and sean coim is like before he's born man And it's like, it's like, it's like us reading about a rivalry between the Beatles and the Stones.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Like he, it's like, this is old stuff for him. I mean, I don't know which of these conspiracies he's in on, but I would have thought you would have got in on the West Coast, East Coast drama, Jeffrey. No, hadn't, no, had no, had no interest, never really cared about it. It was fascinating. Some of the music's okay, but I just didn't, I didn't, yeah, I didn't like a lot of stuff that they were coming out with then. Or I don't like a lot of it. Really? Dre, Snoop, you didn't like, you know, Ice Cube,
Starting point is 00:27:27 you didn't like that genre of rap from the 90s? I like 90s country, better than modern country, but I like modern rap better than 90s rap. Mumble rap, whatever we're doing today. Yeah, like Travis Scott, Young Thug, yeah, Drake. More job rule days. Nelly. Lolli.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Yeah. Those words mean nothing to me. All those words that were just said by Jeffrey mean nothing to me. But I can tell you about all the founding members of NWA. All right, let's move to this. Jeffrey, speaking of pop culture, and by the way, the 90s. Let's start with something that feels obligatory at this point. Jeffrey, have you ever heard of Hollyberry?
Starting point is 00:28:13 I have. I have. Okay, that wasn't said with a great amount. amount of confidence that wasn't said like once again you go a little older than you and the answer sounds like this well i thought it was pronounced yeah i have what i say holly it is how it's it is how it's you're right it it i don't know what i said yeah it's hallibary yeah um i don't know what i said maybe i said holly i don't know howley barry okay at one time maybe maybe every gen Xer and maybe even older millennials dream girl. Like she was on every top five list,
Starting point is 00:28:56 probably every top three list. She was, she was it. Okay, well, Halliberry was at the New York Times deal book forum. And seemingly apropos of nothing, before Governor Gavin Newsom took the stage, she had this to say about the potential candidate for president. Back in my great state of California, my very own governor, Gavin Newsom, has vetoed our menopause bill, not one but two years in a row. But that's okay, because he's not going to be governor forever. And with the way he's overlooked women, half the population, by devaluing us in midlife, he probably should not be our next president either. Just saying.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Oh, says the crowd, because it does. Come from a surprising source. First of all, I don't know what she's talking about. Well, I'm going to be honest. With this menopause bill, I don't know what she's talking about, Jeffrey. But, I mean, Gavin Newsom, this is sort of his base, you know? Like, honestly, it's the base of any Democrat. You better get the celebrities.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, from my understanding of why he vetoed it, come down to economics, they weren't going to be able to afford it. I'm not saying that's 100% but I think that's what it was. And if that's the case, I mean, that's not something I would expect to come from him. I would expect to sign it and we'll figure it out later. But, you know, it seems like he might be doing something reasonable. But, yeah, I mean, that is his base. But, I mean, it doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I mean, at the end of the day, that'll affect the primary. She's still, or his base still isn't going to vote for J.D. Vant. So it really just affects the primary, in my opinion. No, but will they vote for AOC? You're exactly right. It's the primary. Will it be AOC, will it be Josh Shapiro, will it be Gavin Newsom? She's right or you're right about the affordability problem in California.
Starting point is 00:30:59 They can't afford anything broke. Gavin Newsom today is traveling to Washington, D.C., to ask for more money in fire relief. And there's a legitimate question being asked about whether or not California taxpayers or federal taxpayers can trust Gavin Newsom with money. Forget fire prevention. They've already given a lot of money to California. for fire prevention and recovery, and where did that money go? So it's like loaning money to your brother-in-law, you know, who hasn't really been good with money in the past,
Starting point is 00:31:27 and he's back for a second loan. It's like, and by the way, now he wants to take charge of the bank account. Not so sure, Gavin, that, A, I'm going to give you another loan, or I'm going to make you president. Yeah, no, I mean, aren't they operating at a deficit right now? Anyway, I think the state of California is operating at a deficit. And what's crazy is they tax you into oblivion already. So you're taxing people into oblivion.
Starting point is 00:31:53 And then you're mismanaging that money and you're running deficits because you don't know how to manage money. I mean, like you said, it's like, you know, that family member coming back. Hey, man, I just, I need another 20 bucks. You know, like, give me another 20. And I think I'll be good after that. No, you won't. Like, we got to fix your problem. You have a problem.
Starting point is 00:32:10 All right. So fix your financial literacy, how you do it. Like, they need to focus more on practicality and being realistic and getting things done rather than making people feel good. Let's take a quick break, but I want to talk about this issue of disability inflation on college campuses with Jeffrey Mead when we come back on Wilcane Country. Canada's Wonderland is bringing the holiday magic this season with Winterfest on Select Nights, now through January 3rd. Step into a winter wonderland filled with millions of dazzling lights, festive shows, rides, and holiday treats. Plus, Coca-Cola is back with Canada's kindest community, celebrating acts of kindness nationwide with a chance at $100,000 donation for the winning community
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Starting point is 00:33:24 You're the perfect guest for this. This story is incredible. Guy who played your position, older than you, very successfully in the NFL, O'Dell Beckham, Jr. Made a lot of money in the NFL. And, you know, I've got to know Jeffrey a little bit. by the way, thanks for the text during the Texas Texas A&M game, Jeffrey, and it turned out all right for me. I texted, Jeffrey said, how are you feeling on Friday night? I said, not good during the first half, and the second half was incredible as Texas beat Texas A&M.
Starting point is 00:33:55 But that's not the point. The point is this. I've got to know Jeffrey a little bit, and I've heard other people talk about how serious you were, like from the get-go. Like, you're a wide receiver at Oklahoma. You were interested in finance. You were interested in money management. not the case for most guys in football and clearly not the case for OBJ
Starting point is 00:34:14 who had this to say about really how far you can stretch $100 million. If I don't have a dollar in my account right here today as we speak I'm going to be straight for the rest of my life. No question, right? I don't think everybody is in that
Starting point is 00:34:30 and when you've sacrificed your whole life to get here and you're like, yeah, I play 10 years in the league and I always explain this to people like, bro, you give somebody a five year, a $100 million dollar contract, track, right? What is it really? It's five years for 60. You're getting tax. Do the math. That's 12 a year, you know, that you have to spend, use, save, invest. Okay, that's the first part, Jeffrey.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Let's just talk about that for just a moment. Yeah, he's right, by the way. I'm glad he did the math. Yeah, $100 million isn't $100 million. He said 60, which by the way, I would have guessed 50 between Agent fees, manager fees, taxes, just when you're in that bracket, just budget for half. You know, you're going to get half of whatever you reportedly getting. And then, you know, it doesn't come all at once. So portion it out over the years. Now you've got a budget. But he's making the argument ultimately, Jeffrey, $100 million doesn't go that far, actually,
Starting point is 00:35:29 when you start stretching it out and how it actually comes into the bank account. Yeah, I mean, I think it absolutely does. here's the problem many athletes have, in my opinion. This is people in general. They want to make money and then go spend that money. When you're getting that type of money, what you should be doing is getting that money investing in assets that can then return cash flow and pay your bills and then you're set up for life, right? But what they want to do is let me go buy this $2 million car, let me go get a $4 million house, even though I don't need it, let me buy my mom of this, even though she doesn't need it, let me do this, let me do that. Let me go burn a bunch of money
Starting point is 00:36:05 on liabilities rather than setting myself up for life and investing up in the cash flowing assets or just even appreciating assets. But I would say like real estate, you know, um, stocks that pay dividends, things like that. I think that is how you set yourself up or buying cash flowing businesses is another good thing, right? That's how you actually set yourself up and that's how you make that work long term. Because yeah, if you go blow it and you go live like you're making 50 million a year, you're going to run through it quick. Well, okay. So first of all, what you just said is incredibly wise, distinguishing the difference between cash-flowing assets and liabilities or asset appreciation and liabilities and everything in pop culture and also the human condition.
Starting point is 00:36:45 So it's no coincidence the pop culture reflects the human condition is to set up to burn money on liabilities, short-term, cars depreciate, you know, jewelry's worth nothing, very little after you buy it. Everything that you want goes down in value. The things that you have to delay gratification on the things that go up in value. But still, to be honest, to be still, Jeffrey, if you're just a spender, just a spender, I actually think, what are you talking about? It's hard to burn $12 million a year. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:37:22 What I mean by hard is you have to make a lot of bad decisions, not one or two. A lot of people make one or two. You have to make a lot in consistent bad decisions to burn $12 million. Let's do this. Let's listen one more time to some more OBJ. So if you're spending $4 million a year, that's really $40 million over five years, eight a year, you know? And now you start breaking down the numbers. It's like, that's a five-year span of where you're getting $8 million.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Can you make that last forever? And you always hear the people who ain't us and ain't been in the people. position and be like, oh, well, that would last like to. Yeah. By the way, another great point he's kind of alluding to there. This is a finite window for you. After this, you're not making anything close to this. Even the best examples, like, let's just take Tony Romo, okay?
Starting point is 00:38:20 There are gigantic outliers. Those outliers are Roger Staub up. For those that don't know, the 1970s Dallas Cowboys quarterback created a real estate firm in Dallas, and he became more wealthy than football ever could have afforded him. I would imagine John Elway's done really well, because I think he has a bunch of car dealerships up in Denver. But Romo's a better because it's still flashy example. Romo makes 18, 19, $20 million a year as a broadcaster for CBS.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I don't remember what his last contract was with the Cowboys, but I'll bet it was more. I bet it was more than $20 million a year to be quarterback. So my point is it doesn't last forever. It comes down. And for most everybody, it comes way, way, way down. So you get this for a finite period. So it's not only living within your $12 million budget. You got to make that last for the years after.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And this kind of ties into what we were talking about. I would imagine, yeah, there's a lot of brother-in-laws and cousins and friends that you grew up with, you know, that are also dipping into the pocket. Yeah. And I think that's one thing that, in my opinion, family members should be, I actually had a, a couple of cousin who played in the NFL. And I don't ever remember asking him for money. I saw him helping out family, but I was like, I don't want to be asking him for anything. I played for the Seahawks, was an offensive lineman, was making good money. And I saw him helping out a lot of the family. And I'm like, you know, that's nice. I don't know about helping. Like, he would go to dinner
Starting point is 00:39:45 and he'd drop $1,000 on like 12 different people. I'm like, that's nice, but they didn't need it. And that money could have been investor. You could have done something more productive with it. So again, I think it comes down to, yeah, you have to make bad decision after bad decision after bad decision in order to burn through that money. But again, the key thing in my opinion is, okay, you're making $8 million a year. You use that as the foundation to buy the assets to set yourself up for life. So that is what needs to be talked about, which even when I was in college, we had some stuff where they talked about financial decision making, but people still have to choose
Starting point is 00:40:16 to make the right decisions. And what O'Dell Beckham is talking about is people not making the right decisions. There's no way you make $8 million a year and then broke by making right decisions. That doesn't happen, right? The way that happens is... You've got to make a lot of bad decisions. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Yes, a lot of bad decisions. So I don't think he has a good excuse for saying that. Like, because later on it, I think he talks about, you know, I got to buy my mom this, you got to buy this. No, you don't have to do that. You chose to do that, right? Because you think even though like, you know, your mom lives in a decent house, even if you get your mom's house, okay, don't go buy her a $3 million house.
Starting point is 00:40:51 She doesn't need that. right like be reasonable in the beginning until your assets can pay for it this is my opinion right did you take for for those that don't know may know geoffrey from instagram from ticot where he's very successful and those who might not know geoffrey played um wide receiver at oklahoma um did do did you take financial literacy courses did they did they require it did they mandate it when you were a d1 college football player did you choose it like it seems like it should be a core competency class for at least football players and basketball players because there is some we still know the numbers geoffrey on the guys that go on to be professionals
Starting point is 00:41:30 it's still low even from the d1 even from the power for d1 level but it's still a smart thing that you should be taking financial literacy courses you know in that world i don't remember exactly i think they because they would bring in you'd have motivational speakers so i think i do remember them bringing in one or two people talking about money and kind of how to budget and kind of how to do some things. I studied it more, obviously, because I was in finance. But I think there was a little bit of that, but I don't think there was enough, in my opinion. But yeah, I was there a little bit. Yeah. I wonder if it hits home, too. You would think, honestly, you would think one guest speaker would hit home. But I wonder if it does. I don't think it does. Maybe let's just,
Starting point is 00:42:12 you don't think it does. So let's just take a guy. It's not particular to him, it's just a name that's popping into my head, and it did work out for him, obviously. Baker. You played with Baker, right? So I don't, Baker's a bad example, because you probably had an offensive lineman when you were there. I don't remember who it would be. Creed Humphrey. Creed Humphrey. Okay. Yeah. Creed's a bad example as well. No, maybe Creed's a decent example, starting center for the Kansas City Chiefs. um not creed as a individual but creed as an example like does that guy sit in class and go man i don't need to listen to all this i'm going to be in the league for 10 15 years making this
Starting point is 00:42:55 much amount i don't have to worry about it you know no that wouldn't i would sit there in i know not him as an individual but you think most guys i'm trying to say at that level like a guy who's good enough to get drafted in the top four rounds a guy who has a reasonable expectation and he's not wrong, that he'll be in the league for three to four years. But he's irrational, perhaps, in the fact that he thinks he could be there for 15 years or 10 years and that he's financially set for life. Like, there's that window. The guy that I think should really, really be concerned is the guy that is two contracts into the NFL,
Starting point is 00:43:26 which we should say is a massive success. If you get a second contract in the NFL, you are a massive success. However, you're not set for life. So I would hope that guy is sitting there paying it. and not taking it for granted. I know some people that would, I don't want to name them, I don't want to blast them like that.
Starting point is 00:43:46 But I personally know guys that I'm like, yeah, you didn't pay attention. I don't give a shit about this. Even outside of mine, it's just a bunch of things, did not care. Right? And I'm like, you know, if you did care, you would have been so much better in the league.
Starting point is 00:43:59 You would have been, there's, yes, they're out there to answer your question. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Okay, speaking of college and Jeffrey's age, this is probably one of my favorite stories of the day. because I do think it's closer to your age demographic. And the truth is, Jeffrey, like, I see this with my sons.
Starting point is 00:44:17 And it's one of those stories where you begin to experience it anecdotally, and then all of a sudden somebody writes about it, and you realize it's macro, it's everywhere. And here's the headline. It's from the Atlantic. Accommodation Nation. America's colleges have an extra time on tests problem. So the story is that, quote, unquote, disability diagnosis
Starting point is 00:44:39 has absolutely exploded. Inflation in this. So what's happening, and I can speak to this, Jeffrey, at the high school level, so it's even happening in high school. And it's a lot of, honestly, it's a lot of wealthy kids. You can go to the doctor, get a doctor's note, and say you have ADHD or any of these other sort of like loosely diagnosable problems. And then you can go to your school and say, I have this, and what you get is extra time
Starting point is 00:45:05 on tests, a lot. and you know if you're not in that you've got to abide by these time tests and if you are in that class you know you get I promise you the the kids not with the extra time look at the others and go I wish I was over there how do I get over there I want more time to think about this and the numbers that some of these Ivy League colleges can't remember which one two days you can tell me if you got in front of you is it like is it Stanford or is it Harvard 40 percent Harvard 40 percent Jeffrey 40% have a quote unquote disability of the students yes oh no no yeah i mean that's the game in the system i mean here's again liberals i say i don't want to say suicidal empathy because i don't think
Starting point is 00:45:56 that's the correct term but uh too much empathy i guess let's make everything feel okay let's make everything right let's do this let's do that No, not everything is a mental illness. Oh, I don't feel good. Okay, you get it. No, there needs to be standards. The standards aren't met. You don't qualify.
Starting point is 00:46:13 That's not difficult to me. I don't know why so many people want to prioritize feelings over reality. It doesn't. Prioritizing feelings over reality doesn't end up benefiting society, in my opinion. You know, and there's, but yeah, here's the cost of society. Okay. Right. We're not sitting here saying that these disabilities aren't real. The problem is, if you've got a bunch of people who are not real doing it, you hurt the people that are real with it. Okay, it's like the fraud scam in Minnesota with the Somalis, right?
Starting point is 00:46:51 That's what I was going to say, yeah. If you got a bunch of fake autism claims, you're hurting the people with real autism by taking away their resources. If you've got a bunch of rich kids getting diagnosed as ADHD to get extra time, you've taken away, A, probably some admissions and opportunities for kids with real disabilities. And by the way, in this Atlantic report, that's what they said. A lot of those kids are being pushed to junior college, which that doesn't seem like a direct leap from Ivy League to junior college, but maybe it is. I don't know. Was that I be wild I was about to say? actually I would actually I'm trying to decide if that would shock me or if that's I just feel like
Starting point is 00:47:35 their mission standards for Ivy League have dropped so much but the problem is other colleges have followed along with them on that that it would be interesting like my options are Grayson County Community College or Harvard I don't know which one you know I get to go that would be wild but you're taking away but the point is you're taking away but the point is you're taken away from kids who have real ADHD. Yeah, I mean, you are. And again, you could argue nepotism. But yeah, I mean, to me, again, I think, and I think this is a trend with Democrats in
Starting point is 00:48:08 general. They want to be so make everyone happy, so virtuous, so moral that they let guard rolls down and they make themselves perfect targets for abuse, kind of like what we saw in Minnesota, right? like what we're seeing there. So, like, when you don't have a standard, when you, whatever, and you just let everyone, and yeah, people are going to abuse the crap out of that. And that's what's probably happening.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Yeah, at some point you're inviting it. At some point, you're complicit. Like, if you know you're creating a system like this and then you don't pay attention to it when it's obvious that it's happening, what makes you different than the criminal? You've got plausible deniability. All right, Jeffrey Mead, you can check them out at Instagram and TikTok. Fox is a very, very successful social and political commentator. I know he went to New York City just a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Met with a lot of my bosses on set for several Fox shows, but we discovered him. That is true. You did. You did. That is true? Good. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:08 All right. I like that. I like that. All right. Let's get you back down here to Dallas sometime soon. It's good to see you over the Zoom. Jeffrey Mead. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Good seeing you. Have a good one. All right. Take care, man. All right. When we come back really quickly, We said this yesterday. We said how many teams can actually win the national championship?
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Starting point is 00:51:02 the Fox News Facebook page, the Wilcane Facebook page, Spotify, and on Apple. Let's bring in two a day's Dan and Tinfoil Pat. I'm just reading our mid-show text chain. Patrick, you're taking credit. not just for Jeffrey Mead, but you're suggesting we as well discovered ruthless. Who else did we discover here at Wilcane Country? Did we discover Fox in general? We might have Fox Podcasts in general.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Who can we take credit for? Yeah. There's more. We can take credit for more. I'm a big discoverer. I'm like a media explorer. Christopher Columbus? That's what I consider it.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Some might say? I'm the Christopher Columbus of media. Thank you, Dan. Got it. I discovered Danorlobs. I don't think he, I, we discovered Wade Stats. You discovered Dan Orloffsky.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Fascinating. Oh, I definitely discovered Dan Orlovsky. He will never admit it, but I did. You should let him outside that end zone in Detroit. Were you the one that told him to break down game tape on Twitter for all those years? No, no. No, no, that was his.
Starting point is 00:52:19 I can't take that away from him. Now he's all big time. I don't even know if he would respond. I'm going to text him right now. I'm going to say, I discovered you, right? You're like, hey, this is Christopher Columbus, aka Will Kane. I discovered you. Let me just text him.
Starting point is 00:52:35 I discovered you, right? I bet he would respond very quickly to that. A resounding no. I think he will too. He will say no, but he'll be lying. Because he won't want to give me that credit. Ask the ESPN higher-ups. if you discovered him.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Okay, I just texted him. Here, I'm going to text an ESPN exec real quick, who's no longer with them. Norby? But I'm going to ask him a two. No, not Norby. I'm going to ask this guy. This guy would know he was, he was, he made talent decisions.
Starting point is 00:53:14 All right, I've got both of those out. We're going to find out that I discover Orlovsky. I discover, I discovered media, some people say. Yeah. I don't say it, but a lot of people are saying. in it that some people are saying uh during the course of the show patrick has apparently discovered a topic that requires us to stop down hit the breaking news alert and change the show that was the text that dan and i got during the geoffrey mead interview i know here let's read it dan let's let's see
Starting point is 00:53:42 if the audience can hear the sense of i was so pumped i'm like this is going to be great for us I have a great story to add to the end. FYI, separate text. The FYI was a follow-up. And, oh, I do too. So, what is this breaking news, tinfoil, Pat? So there is a study that women's farts smell worse than men's farts. You text us in the middle of the show for that?
Starting point is 00:54:13 Yeah, for the end of the show. It's not a lead, but men fart more, women's farts smell worse. So it's just science. This is hard-hitting stuff for the Wilcane country. And women need to really own those farts because otherwise, they might get Alzheimer's disease. The dog did it anyway, so it doesn't matter. Whoa, that seems like the breaking news. What do you mean to own it?
Starting point is 00:54:40 What does that mean? You get Alzheimer's disease if you don't claim it? What do you mean own it? Are you saying don't hold it in or you'll get Alzheimer's or you say you better speak up and wait, hey, that's two different things. Don't hold it in or don't deny it. Let her rip. Smelt it, you dealt it. I don't.
Starting point is 00:55:00 So the Alzheimer's, that seems like the big breaking news part and I'm feeling real shaky on the facts that you've just shared on that. But that's the breaking news part. If you deny your farts, you will get Alzheimer's. That seems to me something that might lead. Jesse Waters' prime time. Make it real. Now, but for the rest of the story, I find it funny. It's amusing. I'm not afraid of the topic. But I think the best part is that you thought this was so important
Starting point is 00:55:25 that you needed us to know during the middle of the show that you have a topic that we have to talk about. And it is about men's farts versus women's farts. We can do it any day. Well, I mean, this is Thursday, though. So, I mean, we're not going to do it tomorrow. Why not? We can do a sports show.
Starting point is 00:55:41 We're going to forget. I don't know. It's a sports topic. And then also, I don't know when you read the text. Sometimes you don't read the text. So I'm trying to get it in so I can get it in the middle at the end of the show. I love the way your mind works sometimes. It's fascinating.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I have a weird place to be. I have a response from Dan Orlovsky. Okay. Patrick's discovering fart stories. I discover talent in media. I got a text from Dan Orlovsky. He said Peter Schrager was first. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:11 And then I responded. nah shrags it could be true it's possible it's possible he was on NFL network yeah it's possible
Starting point is 00:56:21 he was on that first before he was being that's your girl my pal they just loved his NFL career so much they're like this guy definitely knows
Starting point is 00:56:34 how to break down film I'm not going to talk about him stepping out of the end zone I will not do that oh I'll do it Dan is really good at what he does You don't have to continue to besmirch him with his lowest, his lowest moment in life, Patrick. It's really, really, it really does reveal more about you than it does Dan.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Oh, yeah, Schroederfroeder. That is his lowest moment in his career, and he's really good at what he does. Other people have done it sense, too. Everybody gets mad at him and says he wrong. A lot of guys in Dallas really don't like Dan because he says something ridiculous about the Cowder. He's wrong a lot. I mean, have I ever won a sports debate more than Carson Wins versus Stack Process? Scott. I mean, it was me against the world. Just for the record, that was me against the world.
Starting point is 00:57:17 When was that? The entire world, well, I don't know. I can't remember what years it was, but what was it? 18, 19. No, I was 1819. You were dying on that range. And the entire world said Carson Wins was better than Dack. And I said, no, he's not. He's not better than Dack. Duck is better than Carson Wins. And that was an ongoing debate. And I was a man on an island. And I have won that going away. That was. If that were a stock, I'm a billionaire, and they're broke. And just add it to the list. Add it to the list, man. Luca Donchich, I mean, I discover talent in the athletic arena as well. That's what's really clear. You should be a scout. This also just came up, like, in the last day or so, like, what the hell happened to Carson Wentz?
Starting point is 00:58:04 Because he was really, really good. I don't know if you would have, like, that season, I don't know if you would have won that debate. but like over time he just dropped off a cliff what the hell he really did he really did he really did it would be it would be interesting to figure out why yeah was it psychological is it is it you know i don't know you have to consider everything work ethic it's funny um here in a couple of weeks on will can country we're going to have a sit down interview with roger clemens and i was thinking about a few other people that i'd like to have sit down interviews with this morning and i would love to get vince in Vince Young. And I started thinking about Vince, and like, I think my first question to Vince
Starting point is 00:58:43 would be fourth and seven. I believe it was like 10 seconds left on the clock. National Championship game, Texas versus USC. How did you feel? What did you think breaking the huddle? That's what I would like to know. Because as a sports fan, I have only ever, I don't know, let's go around the horn real quick on this. The most confident, you know how being a sports fan and watching sports is an emotional roller coaster. And you are often infused with insecurity. Are we going to get it? I'm scared. This is fun. All of that. There are two moments in my life where I did not have insecurity. I had supreme confidence. And it's a weird feeling to have. And that was in the 1990s with the Dallas Cowboys. But it was an ever-present sense of confidence. It was always there.
Starting point is 00:59:28 It was like, third and ten, I knew that Troy Aitman was going to throw a slant to Michael Irvin and they were going to convert. It was confidence. It was validated and consistent. And you walked into every game, just like with a sense of confidence. Vince Young was the only other time I had that kind of confidence where it's like Vince's goddess, Vince will do it. Fourth and seven, Vince will do it. And I want to know how he felt. But I was thinking about this and I wanted to go on to think about what then happened in the NFL. Like, why did it not work out for you in the NFL? And the answers are multitude, right? It could be work ethic. A lot of people have reported on it, but I want to hear
Starting point is 01:00:08 it from him what he thinks. And I would love to hear that same thing from Carson Wentz to bring this home. Like what in your diagnosis, what went wrong from the high high you were on with the Philadelphia Eagles?
Starting point is 01:00:24 I don't think Cam... Cam was MVP at this time. You can't have that conversation with... Yeah, you can't have that conversation with Cam because the rebuttal is, what are he talking about? I went to the Super Bowl and I was MVP. True. Carson can't say the same thing, right? It's unfulfilled, potential unfulfilled moment. And I would love to hear from the principal player their estimation as to why. Okay, two days. You have it from yesterday. I hope, I don't know if you can still have it, you can bring up again. But bring up if you would the 12-team field right now for the playoffs before the conference championship games, which will still shake itself out as Texas Tech has to play BYU. Alabama plays Georgia, Indiana, plays Ohio State.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Both Indiana and Ohio State will remain in the playoff field. Alabama will most likely stay in the playoff field, even if they lose to Georgia. Presumption is BYU will drop out if they lose to Texas Tech. But the point is, we have a pretty good sense of what the playoff field will look like. There could be one or two teams in or out. If you're watching us on YouTube or Facebook, it's up on your screen. If you are listening to us on Spotify, Apple, or radio, I'll just give you the top 13, 14 right now, because that's the teams in the debate. Number one, Ohio State, two, Indiana, three, Georgia, four Texas Tech, five, Oregon.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Six, Ole Miss, seven, Texas A&M, eight, Oklahoma, nine Alabama, and ten, Notre Dame. Then you have 11, BYU, 12, Miami, 13, Texas, 14 Vanderbilt. Really, the cutoff is 12 Miami. sense that Miami could still get in depending on what happens with BYU and the ACC championship game as well, which could be a huge problem if Duke ends up winning the ACC. Now, the point is, we have a pretty decent field to pick from. And yesterday I said, Dan contended there's more parity in college football than ever, so it matters more than in the past who gets into the playoff. Agreed. Patrick is filled with angst and anger and grumpiness and doesn't like the 12
Starting point is 01:02:34 versus 13 debate. Wouldn't like 16 versus 17 debate. We'll never be happy. So it doesn't really matter. But I did find that pretty interesting. In a world of increased parity, I am even willing to admit, Texas, the first team theoretically out probably isn't going to win the national championship. So the price of them being out isn't ultimately all that high. How many teams can became the question. So let's go through this together, three of us. And we'll start from the top. Now, I'm fully aware that 10 full pat will probably say no starting at number two.
Starting point is 01:03:14 And weirdly he may say yes at number eight, nine or 10, but we'll just have to all deal with that together. Okay, welcome to our world. So Dan, put it back up. let's go through this really quickly who can win the national championship the three of us will vote ready number one ohio state yes yes number two indiana yes no no yes their quarterback is i'm gonna say yes they've been playing i with kurt signetti and a good enough quarterback like this i think they can win it would only depending on where they fall here, you know, what's it, what's it end up being three to four games?
Starting point is 01:03:57 I'm going to go yes on Indiana. Number three, Georgia. Yes. Yes. Well, I was going to say no. Number four, Texas Tech. No. No. Yes. I think Texas Tech can. Bias. Defense is really good. Why would I be biased towards Texas Tech? Texas. Is your wife from Texas? Defense is really good. she's from Lubbock yeah doesn't make me a tech fan Lubbock bias I do have a little bit of soft spot in my heart
Starting point is 01:04:33 for Texas Tech but I actually think they have the ingredients yeah I do the problem is by the way I have I have a brother that's a tech fan I have a brother-in-law that's a tech fan and nothing makes me hate Texas Tech more than them like if they would just be quiet I would actually quietly root for Texas Tech to some degree
Starting point is 01:04:50 but they have the you think Texas A&M has little brother syndrome, they have red-headed cousin syndrome. I like my home's there. Oh, yeah. Did we invite him to the family reunion? Oh, shoot. Did somebody text him real quick and tell him we're all getting together? That's the Texas Tech guy.
Starting point is 01:05:06 And it's like, oh, I like him, but I forgot to invite him guy. And it's like, if he would just stop being such a prick about everything, then you would like like him. Do we have to invite you? God, the red-headed cousin syndrome. But I'm a yes on Texas Tech. Okay. number five
Starting point is 01:05:23 Oregon yes yes I'm closer on this one I actually everybody loves Dante Moore have you noticed that he's like a top five mock draft
Starting point is 01:05:38 did quarterback right now I'm not sure I'm totally sold I'll say yes though in this world I don't trust any Oregon quarterbacks after Marietta that's I think that's fair honestly, I just kind of do. After Marriota?
Starting point is 01:05:55 Go back to Joey Harrington. Yeah, true. They're all frail. Small bone structure. That's true. I mean, they're basically running backs. Basically, we all have, we've had,
Starting point is 01:06:10 Texas Tech was only one out of three. Starting at number two, we had some disagreement, but there's been at least, all five of these teams have gotten at least a vote from the three. of us. Let's keep going until we get three noes, okay? Old Miss. I'm going to know with that way. I'm a no. That's a no. I want it to be a yes, but I don't
Starting point is 01:06:32 think so. I think it's tough losing your coach like that right there. So there we go. There's three no. And by the way, we might be there now. Texas A&M. I'm going to go no. No. Yes. Really? You think so? They have the fourth highest blue chip ratio. among all the teams this season. I mean, like, that's one of the biggest outliers. So, yeah. Dude, they got dominated by Texas in the second half. Dominated.
Starting point is 01:07:00 That's why I'm saying now. Games, do games happen? Matchups happen? Like, it doesn't mean that they're out of it. I mean, they could go on a run and win three games. I mean, that's a possibility. They have to tell the championship. And a good coach.
Starting point is 01:07:16 All right. Oklahoma. No. No. Yes. what yes do you watch college
Starting point is 01:07:24 really they have a set look I'm telling you if you have the talent you have the potential to do it I mean like if you're above 70 Patrick huh
Starting point is 01:07:34 could all 25 win Patrick no we're getting to the end he said he said no to Indiana and he said no to Texas Tech no man I don't know if you've watched Oklahoma
Starting point is 01:07:46 their quarterback is is simultaneously a solution and a problem. Like, he can be really good. Such a great. And he can be, yeah, like, I mean, he can win them a game. But in the course of three or, it'll be four games for Oklahoma, he will lose them a game.
Starting point is 01:08:05 There's no doubt. He'll throw three picks in a game. He'll force the ball where it shouldn't go. He's too aggressive. I can't see him being the smart quarterback four games in a row needed to win when the games are tight. So that's why I'm out on it. Nothing against John Materia. That's just the way he's played this year.
Starting point is 01:08:23 I think I'm analytically right on that. It's all fluky, man. Alabama. Do we think that Joe Flacco was going to win a Super Bowl? But that's a different kind of quarterback. That was a smart conservative quarterback. The problem here is it's the opposite. Alabama, I'm a no.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Yes. Yes. They have the, yeah, definitely. Yeah, I think they could pull it off. They got the wake-up call. and they came back and then, you know, yeah. All right, come on. This has got to be three minutes, Notre Dame.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Yes. Really, Patrick? Healthy Jeremiah love. CJ Carr ain't really it. So we're 10, we're 10 deep. And the only unanimous nose we've got is Ole Miss right now. The only unanimous note is Ole Miss. So you guys, between the three of us, at least one of us thinks 19.
Starting point is 01:09:20 I checked out. I don't know if you knows, but I've been nose for a while now. My number is about five. Five teams can win. I'm a no on Notre Dame. I'm a no on Miami. So obviously I'm a no on BYU. I'm a no on those teams.
Starting point is 01:09:37 I'm a no on A&M, Oklahoma, Alabama, Notre Dame, Ole Miss. I'm at five. I gave it to Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia, Texas Tech, and Oregon. That's my cool who could actually win the national championship. championship. Yeah. Yeah, I think it is chalk. Hmm. Yeah. I'm going to shock you right now. Those five best teams in the country. If Texas gets in, which I don't think they should, I also think that they could potentially win it.
Starting point is 01:10:04 They have the talent to do it. If that's true, there's, it's absolute insanity to keep them out. If what you said is true, they have to be in the playoff. They should have been in the playoff because like we don't just go up by blue chip ratio. I'm saying, like, I'm guessing, I'm predicting, you know, the potential outcome based off of that. But it doesn't mean that they deserve to be in it. But the argument, the argument is, deserve carries a lot of weight. That's where we're going to fall into the debate we've had the last two days.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Right. I believe that I believe that there is increased parity. I think five actually, and by the way, I think six through ten could beat one through five. I think six through ten could beat one through five on any given game. but I'm talking about who can win three to four games in a row, right? And I don't think six through ten. Yeah, but in the past it was two or three. Now I do believe it's four or five.
Starting point is 01:11:01 I think it'll be that could win it. But there will be, there could be upsets. There may be bigger upsets. That won't disprove my argument. All I'm telling you is your national champion won't come in at any of those teams below number five right now. I think Indiana might get, you know, their Cinderella might get a little, midnight at some point i don't know what reason to believe that other than their brand
Starting point is 01:11:28 yeah other than their brand and maybe patrick's exalted blue chip rating hey real quick from the comments section our steamed wade staats has said that his kids call this show helmet guy helmet guy I keep watching Helmig Guy. For next year's rebrand, since we rebrand every year or so, Helmut Guy, that's the show. It's Will's Altarigo. Helmut Guy.
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