Will Cain Country - Todd Piro, Lexie Rigden, & David Marcus: Why The Democrats Haven't Learned The Lessons of The 2024 Election

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

Story #1: Your issues and what is important to you does not matter to the political class. Why haven't they learned their lessons on issues like men playing in women's sports or illegal immigrant crime gangs taking over apartment complexes in Aurora, Colorado? Story #2: What's it going to be like to cover the Trump 2.0 presidency? What time do you have to get up to host FOX & Friends First? What are the best phrases to address your friends by as a man? Hanging out with FOX & Friends First co-Host, Todd Piro. Story #3: President-elect Donald Trump goes on the offensive, suing the media for their lies - but it seems they still haven't learned the long lessons about why they have lost the public's trust. Plus, should Daylight Saving Time be permanent? A Lunch Break Panel with Legal Analyst, Lexie Rigden & FOX News Columnist, David Marcus. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, your issues, what's important to you, they don't matter. You don't matter. That's the message that seemed to come from Democrats in the election for president in 2024. They haven't learned their lesson because it's the same message they're running out when it comes to men playing in women's sports. or illegal immigrant crime gangs taking over Aurora, Colorado. You don't matter. Two, Todd Piro of Fox and Friends First joins us to tell us what time you have to get up in the morning to do the first television show of the day. Plus, we're going to talk about all the biggest stories in the news with TVs, Todd Piro.

Three, our lunch break panel today includes. David Marcus and Lexi Rigden. Let's figure out daylight savings. Let's figure out what dudes can call each other. Hey man. Hey, buddy. Hey, dude. With our lunch break panel.

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time, and if you go over to YouTube and you hit subscribe, you can set a reminder, then you can jump into the comments section, and you're a member of the Willisha. I came flying into the show a little bit late today, guys. But I made it. I've never been late. Have I been late yet? Never late

late to the Will Kane show. No. Never missed it, outside of the technical difficulty. Very close. That's fair. Today was the closest. What were you doing? Today was the closest. Is it trouble with the commute?

I don't have a good answer. I just, I was on the phone. I said, I'm going to make a quick call. I was on the phone, and then I said, I looked at my phone and it said, you know, whatever, 58, two minutes to launch a show. And I saw my text, and there you were like one minute to go. So that's what we said. That's why in our tease, in my one, two, three, did you notice?

I mean, today my tease was Todd Pyrr. On the biggest stories of the day. I was like, he forgot. He forgot. I can't remember what we're doing today here on the Will Kane show. Dan and I said you're probably a little more. With one of the power brokers of the world. I was.

Not the power brokers of the world, but the power brokers of our little universe. I've noticed, you've noticed, some deep teases. If you've learned to listen to what I have to say, I've hinted at various times of things that I've known that you three don't know about, and everybody listening doesn't know about. Have you guys noticed any deep teases in the last week? Yeah.

You guys noticed? It gives me severe anxiety, so thank you for that. We've asked some pointed questions to just judge tonal reaction. Yeah. We try to read your face and your reaction and those type of things. When we were talking about the aliens yesterday, and then I said something about, you know. Uh-uh.

Family is a big topic. Well, you don't know now. You don't know what I could be deep teasing, right? Exactly. Friends of the power brokers in the world, I could be teasing deep teasing World War III, or I could be deep teasing the future of the Will Cane show. So you don't know.

I thought you're bringing your beard back. I'm not bringing my beard back. The boys here in the Will Cane show have had a lot of fun lately playing with Grock and images of me. And it's really creepy. I haven't really got into AI, but they can churn out images of me holding a fantasy football trophy or playing water polo in a matter of like minutes. They can just do it.

And now I got to get in on this AI deal. But then when I put it to you through it, I'm like, hey, how can we harness this power of AI to actually help the little can show? I got nothing. I got crickets. You guys are nothing. You're worthless. All you're there for is making funny images of me while we're supposed to be having a call, planning the show.

But all the images did have me with a beard. It's ESP and Will. Not Will on Fox. But we do have, we do promise that we are going to touch all the biggest stories in news today. All the biggest stories in the world. And we're going to do it with the perfect guy. How about TV's Todd Pyro plus our lunch break panel all coming up today here on the Will Cane show? But let us get started with story number one.

Yesterday, news broke. that some 14 odd Trende Aragua criminals were arrested after taking over an apartment block in Aurora, Colorado. You've heard this story about Trenda Aragua, taking over an apartment block in Colorado. It was a story that was almost immediately diminished, if not dismissed. For example, on ABC, Vice President nominee at the time, now Vice President-elect, J.D. Vance was appearing with Martha Radd's. And this is the salient journalistic point she thought should be made when it comes to this, this illustration, this wart on American society of Venezuelan criminal gangs taking over apartment complexes in Aurora, Colorado. The incidents were limited to a handful of apartment complexes, and the mayor said our dedicated police officers have acted on those concerns, a handful of problems.

only Martha do you hear yourself only a handful of apartment complexes in america were taken over by venezuelan gangs and donald trump is the problem and not kamala harris's open border americans are so fed up with what's going on and they have every right to be so the news today the follow-up to that moment of politzer prize winning cross-examination from martha raditz at a vc is that they have um arrested over a dozen of these crimes criminal gang members in Aurora, Colorado that took over, yes, apartment complexes. I think it's so fascinating and revealing how she's dismissive of only a handful. Like that's really the salient point she thought was that needed to be made.

And you know what's being implied here? What's being implied is you, Republican, are taking non-illustrative outlier events and painting them as big problems in America. And maybe for Martha Raditz, living on probably the upper east side or perhaps the upper west side of Manhattan, that's not something she encounters on a daily basis. But because she does not, and you may in Aurora, Colorado, it's not a problem. It's like an aberration that's being blown out into a story. But again, it doesn't affect her. So, therefore, it's not important, even if it affects you.

This is the same thing you heard yesterday on Capitol Hill where the president of the NCAA appeared to talk about sports betting. But much, I'm sure, to his disappointment, Republican senators started bringing up another issue when it comes to the NCAA. They started asking him about trans athletes. Let me first give you Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri grilling the president of the NCAA.

Correct. It's right here. You just reaffirmed him. and may have this year. I've got them. I'm reading them. I've got them off your website. I believe our guidelines give people optionality with respect to how they choose to use their facilities. What does that mean? Optionality.

What it says is, transgender student athletes will be able to use the locker room, shower, and toilet in accordance with their gender identity. That means men will be able to use the women's locker rooms. And as Riley Gaines and others have testified before this committee, that means if a man, a biological man, wants to use their locker room they just have to accept it

or else they have they the women have to go somewhere else they've got to go find an alternative why is that fair Josh Hawley is good at this he is smart he's a smart dude and that's a great cross-examination and what he highlights is

the president of LA is playing word games he's playing semantics we have told our local partners that they must provide optionality that word optionality is supposed to kind of create white noise between your ears and you're like oh yeah option always good problem solved the optionality he's talking about is that a dude can walk into a woman's locker room make himself at home and the women

have the option to go somewhere else so that's his solution women must bend to the action of men women must react to the action of men and in this case it's men pretending to be women you have the option to go somewhere else says the NCAA and And here's the response to all of that now from Louisiana Senator, Republican, John Kennedy. Why don't you just say, look, in America, you can be whomever you want to be. But in terms of fair competition and a collegiate sport, transgender women who are biological males are not going to be allowed to compete against non-transgender women who are biological female. Boom, done. why don't you go to go to amazon and buy a spine online and take a stand so that's a response to

his answer cut there in the middle which was hey we're following you guys what we're trying to do is we're waiting on federal guidance we're waiting on the core system let's take a moment on that by the way there are several um courtrooms judges federal court judges across the country who have actually sided with the man making his way into women's locker room the man making his way into women's sports. These are Obama-appointed judges at lower levels. There are suits coming forward that can make their way through the federal judiciary. Riley Gaines has one, I believe, in Georgia, and there's one as well with the Mountain West Conference

and what we just saw was San Jose State Volleyball. It's going to have to at some point make its way to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court is going to have to make a decision on whether or not men or men or women. But the NCAA on its part has decided to be a eunuch. They've decided to have no spine, no manhood. no leadership. They've had no ability to make a decision. But to

the defense of the NCAA comes now Democrats. Here is Senator Dick Durbin. How many athletes are there in the United States in the NCAA schools? 510,000.

How many transgender athletes are you aware of? Less than 10. Less than 10 out of 510,000. Yep. Okay, this is a big moment, says Democrats. Less than 10, he's appalled and shocked.

Out of 500,000, the message being, this is not a problem. Because it's not a problem for Dick Durbin, even if it is a problem for Riley Gaines. Even if it is a problem for you, see, it's not a problem for Dick. therefore it's not a problem this is like saying oh 10 out of a 500,000 well you know what the little league championship world series is comprised of you know boys what 12 13 years old okay fine there's only 10 or so 25 year old dominicans playing with the rest of the little boys like jack and homers over that short fence in left field you know just bombing those little pitches coming off their arms over the play there's only about 10 of these dudes yeah they're

on steroids and they're 27 but come on it's just about 10 of them out of the whole you're talking about out of the whole universe of literally just 10 Jose canseco's i mean obviously that wouldn't make sense and it's only slight exaggeration slight hyperbole to compare it to men dudes testosterone advantage biological genetic every advantage in sports stepping into the world of women there's only there's less than ten dudes spiking the ball into a girl's face in volleyball there's less than ten that's ten i mean there's only a couple lea thomas's you know just stroking it in the hundred free over these women just dominating eat my wake ladies there's a you know it's just just just not that many says dick so it's not an issue and in that vein it's just like trend day or agua and

Martha Raddits. There's only a couple of apartment blocks taken over by a Venezuelan crime gang. It's just a couple, JD. You're taking non-issues and turning them into issues because they're not issues to Martha Raditz. Because they're not issues to Dick Durbin. You, you, who think it's important? Hey, listen, have you not learned your lesson? Inflation is transitory. It's not a big deal. The economy's on the heel. It's doing great. You know, issue after issue, we told you during 2024 the things that matter to you they're not real they're not big that's just republicans manipulating your mind and you thinking these are big problems when it they're 10 10 out of a half minute of a couple couple apartment blocks what you what matters to you really honestly

isn't important you know full translation you are not important try it it worked for you in 2024 dick it worked it worked so well martha in this last election keep telling people that their concerns are not concerns while crime gangs take over apartment complexes and men take over women's sports you might want to listen to the issues that matter to americans over on youtube uh outlaw eraser one says uh looks like a pretty liberal show i guess talking about the will cane show so just like a lib face. We have a lib looking show. I'm trying to figure out what it is. My shirt. Is it button down too low? Let me figure it out. I don't know. But like my jawline, this show somehow. Look and lib. Well, it's not going to improve. I promise you. It's only going to get worse because coming up,

how about we work through what dudes are supposed to call each other, daylight savings time, and real, real issues. in the news and world with TV's Todd Piro coming up on the Will Cain show. Listen to the all-new Brett Bear podcast featuring Common Ground, in-depth talks with lawmakers from opposite sides of the aisle, along with all your Brett Bear favorites, like his All-Star panel and much more.

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What's up, man? You know, you were called liberal possibly because of your shirt, so I'm going to counterbalance that. You know, there's that song out, match my freak that's out there right now. We're going to reverse or unmatch your freak. I guess that's the analogy I'm trying to make with a full dark suit here on the Will Kane podcast. I look ridiculous. I know, but I have to go to the holiday party, so I didn't want to, like, come in here new. What is, you know what is? First, what is Match My Freak? I had a song. I'm unfamiliar with this movement in pop culture.

I wouldn't call it a movement. I, you know, I read a lot of on the Instagrams, because I'm up, like the hip kids. And there's that song that always plays on a lot of things. The girls will be dancing. I think I just, I just blew the lid off of what I look at on Instagram. You know, my wife makes fun. I mean, you have a lot of a, you have a lot of hot girls in sports. I was like, guilty. guilty, but that song plays a lot. Why does she know that? You can't ever hand your phone over and let your wife look at the search function.

Because another... That's a huge mistake. I know. It's a bad thing. If you ever want to know everything you need to know about a guy, look at the search function on his Instagram. See what its suggestions are on photos. Your crew's like, no, please do not do it.

They're doing the wave. Here's the deal. I'd like to find things that I think she would laugh at. And oftentimes those are like marriage. things, parenting things, and so I'll show it to her, and then she'll, like, click out of it, and, you know, you see a lot of women in the next click. A lot of women. Don't pander your phone, Piro.

I know, I know, I know. You've got to direct message hurt, so you get a funny reel, you know, my wife and I send each other like Doberman videos or whatever it may be. You DM it to her. You don't, hey, babe, here, take a look at my phone. And then, by the way, what kind of rules is she breaking to go from what you want to show her to your search function. Let's just see what Todd's looking at.

It's a violation. I feel violated. Moving her thumb all around your screen. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I'm the victim. But yeah, I'm doing okay. I'm excited to be here. I've been waiting to do this for a while.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, show. I'm glad to have you. I'm glad to have you. But second follow up today, I've forgotten this. It's true. Is the Fox and Friends holiday party, Christmas party? I don't think I've ever been.

Yeah, I don't think I've ever been. been because there's a part of me that feels like I've been, but I don't think I've ever been because I'm based out of Texas. I'm not there during the week when it normally happens. But why would you wear a suit to the Fox and Friends party? Like, you don't have to keep your suit on, man. Let your hair down. You want to know the real reason? I was supposed to attend a lunch before this that got canceled last minute. So my day, because I know the listeners to the Will Kane podcast are so curious about my day was lunch with people. Will Kane podcast and then party.

And I tried to combine all these things into a time frame when I probably shouldn't. So I said, I'm going to pick one outfit and I'm going to go with it. Now, you could make the argument when I made the suit selection this morning, pick a more festive suit, pick a more festive tie. Don't look like you're going to a funeral. But this is the choice I made. All right. I do want to know actually more about your schedule. That's something I want to get into here in just a moment.

But first, let's bounce around some topic of substance. as well. Stephanie Rule from MSNBC did a podcast. I don't know the name of this podcast, but she did a podcast. She talked a lot about her process through the election. Yesterday, we played this clip where she talked about her ability to reach out directly to President Trump versus the 50 different people, Pony Express, and Pigeon Carrier she would need to get to a mailbox somewhere within 50 yards of Joe Biden. But she talked more about what it was like to interact with this current administration and Joe Biden. Let's watch this together, Todd. At minute nine and a half, I asked the president, your son Hunter might be indicted by your

Department of Justice. How will this impact your presidency? A completely reasonable question. As soon as I said those words, President Biden's team waved in front of the camera, started screaming and yelling and stopped the interview. Now, that immediately went on, that's public record. That was in the transcript. That became its own story. And then they us, right? We ended up going 14 minutes and then NBC was in the box and we were in trouble forever. I interviewed VP Harris and they gave us 15 minutes. We ended up getting 25. However, in those completely structured environments, you never have a human moment. Man, she's so right about so much right here. So first, I want to say this, having interviewed

President Trump, he's such an outlier in that they say you have 25 minutes and you end up with 45. right like and he's the one saying give him more give him more give him more here's the biden's team like trying to shut it down asap there's an on when there's an uncomfortable conversation what i'm more fascinated by todd is just what the what she is revealing which is true about the nature of these interviews here's your time limit they can so easily filibuster out of that time limit but it also just rings any humanity out of an interview um it's really just like hey man ask three questions and then go and and that's what it's really been like before Trump? Because these politicians by and large, and look, it's on both sides of

the aisle pre-Trump, I'd say. They're not comfortable. They do not have the mastery of the material that Donald Trump has. And that needs to be reflected. But it's also a bigger issue. And it's the reason, I'm going to do this in a positive light. It's the reason Fox has been so successful. They're not comfortable. They are robotic politicians in general. And then you get somebody like Trump coming in there that reflects how the Fox talent is with its audience. I mean, look, we're doing this podcast right now. Look at what we talked about in the first segment. Have you ever heard a politician talk about the attractive girls on their Instagram? No, because it's too much of a window into the soul. Well, what other politician gives that

window into his soul, Donald J. Trump? And I think it has raised the bar on politicians needing to do that so that when they don't, so that when they're so managed, like a Joe Biden, like a Kamala, it comes off as fake and inauthentic. And look, there are a plethora of reasons why Trump won, but that's a big one. That is a huge one. And let's face it, yes, sorry. I was going to say it comes off as fake and inauthentic, Todd, because it is fake and inauthentic by design.

I disagree with one little thing you said. I don't think that Donald Trump necessarily has some mastery of the material that far surpasses, for example, like you said, we could stick on the right. right side of the aisle, then say Mitt Romney. Like, I think Mitt Romney's a really smart guy who probably really understands the material. The difference, there's two differences. One, it's just natural comfort in your own skin.

Okay, Donald Trump is just comfortable with who he is, where every other politician isn't comfortable. They're not comfortable. And there's a reason they're not comfortable. And that gets me to number two. They kind of live in a world of defense, and I get it to some extent. I had breakfast yesterday, Todd, with a buddy of mine who is a trial lawyer. And I remember the first time I met Joe Tessator on ESPN.

And I'd been doing first take, and I've been debating Stephen A. Smith. And Tessator comes up to me, and he goes, Cain, you are a counter puncher. You know, Testor does boxing. So he's saying, you bob, you weave, you slip, you jab. Stephen A throws a haymaker, and then you slip out of it, and you hook them. And it's true. There's a little bit of me that likes to listen to someone's argument

and then deconstruct it and show how illogical what they had to see. say is, right? But that is inherently defensive. What I mean by that is, is so Mitt Romney sits down in an interview, and he's attacked by Stephanie Rule over something. He is convinced his master of the material not just allows, but requires him to deconstruct her lack of reason. Donald Trump doesn't do that. He plays offense, always offense. So my friend, who's this trial lawyer, who's telling me yesterday, when you're trying to win over a jury, and Todd, you're to lawyer. The mistake that too many lawyers make is accepting the framework of opposing counsel and then trying to destroy the framework. I mean, sideswipe it, jab at it, acknowledge the framework,

but reestablish your own story, an alternate story, and play offense. You see what I'm saying? Like, you reframe the entire argument, and that's what Donald Trump and constantly does. And so he can find himself, and it confounds them. It confounds the hefty rule. It confounds 60 minutes. It confounds them all because they are trying to present a certain framework. Here's what we're talking about. They're expecting a Mitt Romney type to go, no, no, that's wrong, this. And then Trump just goes, reject new framework. And now they live in his world. The entire interview, they're in his world. So everywhere he goes, he's comfortable because he's dictating the terms of the world. He is painting the frame of the picture. And they have to exist inside his framework.

I think that really allows him to be comfortable in any environment where, every other politician cannot because I don't know how to play offense and I don't know how to create their own framework ready for my counter punch you just made my argument and let me explain how it's Bain versus Queens okay Mitt Romney

is Bain Donald Trump is Queens and when I say he has a mastery of the material you're right to a certain extent he's not going into the Bain level analysis but what kind of a mastery does he have he has a mastery for that jury that you just mentioned it's a mastery

that allows a counterpunch and allows an overall takeaway from the idea to be whatever Donald Trump said is probably the right way to view something. And so, yes, if there are 100 points to an issue, yes, he's not going to get all 100. To your point, maybe Mitt Romney does. But it's the first and the second that people remember because we're all busy. We're all distracted. Same thing with a jury. If you're sitting in a jury for six weeks, you can't remember everything.

You're going to remember a few things. And Donald Trump has an instinctive ability to drive those points home. Yes, he's an amazing marketer. And yes, he comes up with phrases that stick. But he's able to do it so consistently in a way that's like, hey, that's a real guy. That's what makes him so unique. And you're right to a point. Like these politicians, they read their briefing books, they memorize it, they become robots.

Donald Trump does not know all 100 points. He knows the top two or three. and he drives them home so that you have no choice but to say oh that guy is right side note when we're not on air i'll tell you a great joe test story uh he did a really good thing for somebody in connecticut and i think it's important that you note oh i want to hear that i'm a big fan of joe he's a friend and uh he is a good dude uh joe testator of espn and w w e when i brought you into the show today, Todd. I said, what's up, man? I run across this debate earlier this week, okay? I am a man guy. Okay. All right, Todd. What kind of guy are you? Are you a dude? What's up, dude? Are you a buddy?

Hey, buddy. Are you, uh, big dog? Hey, big dog. What, what, what is the Todd Pyro go to on, uh, what you call a brother? Not a brother, brother, but a brother. I have extended this to my girls, and maybe I should it, because I don't have sons like you. I call them dude. I'm like, hey, dude, what are you doing? Bro, what are you doing? You call you girls, dude? I do.

I do. I think bro and dude are the ones. Look, let's not start a whole thing. Todd's kids are gender fluid. No. I just, in sometimes my wife, why do you do that? Like, they're girls. They're all girl.

Trust me. I watched more princess movies this year than Giants games. That's partially for my own sanity, not just because I'm being a good girl dad. But, you know, I like bro and dude, whether it's my kids or whether it's just people out. Hey, bro. I'm not a buddy guy. Buddy the elf, I think, bothers me. Well, let me bring in the guys.

Let me bring in two a days, young establishment James and tinfoil pat. Can we all agree that Buddy is actually an insult? you can't say buddy that's diminutive and you are like patting somebody on the top of their head 100% go hey buddy that's not cool like you're you're it's like a quick grip of a handshake you know i'm talking about the quick grip like when somebody goes in for a handshake and they quick grip you and they just get your fingers and now they've made you you know they've made you diminutive to them because they've made you a soft handshaker which you didn't mean to he just quick gripped you you know what i mean right like yeah if anybody ever gave you their fingers

in a handshake, you'd be like, ooh, what's wrong with that guy? But some dudes force you into that by doing the quick grip, right? Buddy's like the verbal quick grip. What about Bud? I'm Bud. Hey, bud. I'm Bud. That kind of sounds like it's about to start a bar fight, too.

Yeah. Watch it, buddy. I'm not your buddy pal. I agree with James. Bud, well, I think Bud's a bar fight. Really? I go Bud all the time. If you call somebody Bud, a stranger bud at a bar, I think it's about to go down.

Listen here, bud Yeah Hey bud Check this out Can we all agree That if you're going with Champ and Slugger You don't know their names

Like right Hey champ Hey Slai chief You don't know their names You don't know their names Chief I mean let's be honest All these are four fill-ins

If you don't know someone's name Most of the time No Yes No No Some of it is a verbal some of it's a verbal pat on the back

like you're getting past formalities with somebody but I like the chief champ slugger guy I actually don't even know what to do with that guy I don't know your name I don't even know James you gotta be a bro guy

like your whole generation is bro 24 years old I actually like the man if it's someone I actually like I'll go man I'm not trying to do anything like if you're just doing stream of consciousness and not like trying to like give it a little extra

something but man how about son what's up son what's up son i think that i think that's a little slick maybe a little early 2000s yeah as you say 2010s i think that's aggressive like son son is not like putting them down a little yeah yeah it pre 2000 it's like father to a son post 2000 it's like what up son yeah you're getting somebody that's fighting words yeah that's fighting words What is brother? I made the joke. Like, what is brother? And I'm not talking about brothers.

You know, I'm talking about, now I'm not talking about biological brothers or black guy brothers. I'm just saying brother. Like, if you're doing brother, you just Hulk Hogan? Like, hey, brother. Do people do brother besides Hulk Hogan? Nah. They do.

You run into that. Do they? Yes. Should they? I don't think, how can I put this again delicately, not to get into a race discussion. I don't know if anybody in the frame right now should be saying, brother to too many people.

Like Lauren Shones, I think he came up to me. Carly and Gavin, you know Gavin, of course. They were having a conversation. He goes, brother. I think he said brother. Like, that's cool. Like, he called us brother. Fine.

I'm not going to go, brother. I'm just not. It's a close friend thing, too. Yeah. Or I remember when I play baseball with a lot of Spanish guys, you'd get called my friend. That was, that was like one of the highest compliments. My friend, that's good. Oh, it's fun.

Now you say that, James. I have a lot of Latino friends through the youth soccer world. And I love it when they go, hey, my friend. They say my friend a lot, and I like it. I like it a lot. It feels really endearing. I'm like, we are friends, aren't we? Yes, we're friends.

But this is, the discussion has sort of opened up something that I never realized. I may call my girls bra, but I don't know if I've ever called my brother, brother. Like, I have an actual brother. He's a guy. He's a wife and a kid. No one calls their, I don't know if I ever called them brother. No one calls their actual brother, brother. No one does that, right?

I don't think so It's always something insulting With your brother Right It's got to be Can we curse on the Wilcate podcast Son Beep

Kind of All right All right Todd What was the other thing I want to talk to you about There was something I wanted to come back My schedule

That's what it is Pyro And that's why you're here That's why your TV's Todd Pyro You never lose the plot You never lose the thread Your schedule You have a show

that kicks off at 4 a.m. 4 a.m. Okay, you look pretty good. I don't even know how old you are, but I'm sitting there looking at you. We're close. You look pretty good. We're close. Yeah. And age? You're a little bit older. We have the same birthday, which is a fun fact. That's right. But I'm, yeah. Here's the deal. You, people offer and say, oh, no, are you Will Kane? When they got me, I was like, no, Will Kane's much better. I'm a lesser version of Will Kane, both in years. Oh, please. And just overall TV-age and radio-age. But it's a high comp of it. I love it. And it also means that they think I'm skinny. Because if you ever seen Will Kane, look, this brother, hey, I just did it. Oh, crap. That just took the legs out of my entire other discussion.

Wilcane is like fit, man. I have the body of a 12-year-old girl who's very uncomfortable with her growing into her body. And I need to work on that in 2025. And I know that. Why a 12-year-old girl? Yeah, it's one who's a little bit hefty. you know she's not real comfortable with how she feels she's got like some fat in some spaces that's me right now and the reason because of that there's a reason because i've been getting up

in the middle of the night for basically the last seven years here but you have to realize when i first started in local news i was a lawyer first i left that at at 30 when i first started a local i was doing morning so i've been on this morning shift for the better part of 16 years and you know it wreaks havoc on your body. You're not doing it every day. I'm not saying the two days that you're doing and when you do other things for Fox and Friends, you're not working. I'm doing it five days a week, going to bed at 8.15 and waking up in the middle of the night because, you know, I need to be there to help my wife with bath time. And then on top of that, what time do you get up? I don't like to say it for security reasons, but let's say it is a low single digit. Okay? Very low single digit.

And you know, you know, Connecticut, I live far away. We're not city people. My wife's not a city gal. She grew up in Connecticut, so we're in Connecticut. I live in the country. I always joke with people like, what's it like? People from Alabama are like, what's it like living in the city? I'm like, dude, I guarantee I drive by more cars, but more cows on my way to work than you do.

I have a lot of cows in my neighborhood. Anyway, point being, I got a hell of a commute. I use that commute to prep for the show. But the fact of the matter is, I can't then go to sleep now at 4 o'clock and say, say wife, here are the kids, for two reasons, divorce, and two, I love kids, I love my kids, I want to hang out with them, I want to see him at the end of the day. So what you're trying to do, you're trying to target 815? I heard you say that. Is that kind of your goal? Every night the goal. Do you strike that? Do you hit that goal?

You know, up until about a month ago, no, but my wife laid down the hammer. Talk about my wife alone on this. She basically said, you need to start going to better. We all need to start going to bed earlier, because the girls like to delay it, be like, tell me one more story. I need one more hug. And by the time that happens, it's 8.30. She put in a rigorous, like, Mussolini-esque system where you can't ask questions. You need to go to bed.

You get out of bed. The gate goes up. And you don't get a sticker because your stickers mean you get toys. If there's no sticker, there's no toy. So they've been abiding by, like, these 715, 7.30. I then go in, refresh some emails, check some scores, get disappointed. usually with the scores because none of my teams are good and then I go to sleep. Yeah, I've found that and you're totally right, by the way, that I only have to do that

two times a week that I can tell myself I'm going to bed early, but I rarely do. Like I may get in bed roughly in the 30 minutes to an hour range of what I was trying to do, but I have real bad habit of like reading on my iPad or sometimes even saying I'm just going to watch 30 minutes of a show and next time to wind down. next thing you know it's been an hour so it's just hard man it's hard to live on a schedule the rest of the world is not on that's the thing and for me that includes the weekends like it's kind of hard to work on the weekends because it's not like during the weekday i'm off i mean i'm right i'm first of all the rest of the world's not off i'm doing this show but it's it's like you gotta kind

of go with the routine of the rest of the world so it's hard for you to say i'm i'm sure it feels weird to go i'm off work at noon and the rest of the world's kind of just getting ramped up almost halfway through their day, you know, and you're like, I'm done for the day or go to bed super early when it's like, well, the world is now in prime time television and I'm out. It's just hard, man, to live on this like alternate planet. And you know when that's going to really come to the four? January 20th of 2025 through January 20th of 20th of 2029 because, I mean, let's face it, there was a lot of news in the past four years. There's always, there always this.

But when Trump's in there, you have two to three news. cycles a day. It happens every day. And so, you know, I know, I try to take a nap around 132. I know next year, waking up from that nap, there's going to be a lot more emails that I need to process and find out what the heck's going on. See how my show has changed from the 1 p.m. note to the 4 p.m. note. And then once we do bath time, hey, has it changed when I go to bed at 8.15? You know, there's going to be a lot of challenges in this new administration. I think we're all excited to see what they do. Let's not feel bad that

Todd's going to have his sleep schedule a little bit messed up. But at the end of the day, we all know we've got a brace for it because it's going to be something. It's not like we're going to saunter into January and nothing's going to happen. There's going to be a lot. And, you know, look, if we do this a year for now, I may have to rejigger the schedule. Let's be realistic because

he's quite a force and it's going to be interesting to see what happens. All right, TV's Todd Pyro here on the Will Cain show. Go to bed. Your day's over, man. Well, no, go to the party. After the party.

Then go to bed. Thanks for having me. Yeah. All right, man. We appreciate you. Thank you, Todd, for being on the Will Cain show. There you go. Check out Todd Pyrot at Fox and Friends First every morning.

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be a part of our community, like our lunch break panel, which today includes. Lexi Rigden, she is an attorney. She's a legal analyst. You can find her on X at Lexi, the lawyer. And Dave Marcus, who joined us throughout the election season from the road. He's a columnist at Fox News. He's also the author of Sharrade, the COVID lies that crushed a nation. David, Lexi, great to see you here. Thanks for being on the Will Cain show. Thanks for having us. Thank you. What are you rocking, Dave? What is that Jersey? You came, you came strong with a today what are you wearing a junior so it's an argentine's a puyna sire's team it's the uh it's the working class team and then river plate is like the elite and you know i'm a man of the people so i root for boca

that's why you showed up to the will kane show and an argentinian soccer jersey i already got one comment today dave here it is um i got a comment here on youtube where is it i'm gonna flash this up for the audience. It's from Outlaw Racer 1. Looks like a pretty liberal show. I don't know how I'm supposed to be rebutting that observation when you're showing up in a Boca Jr.'s jersey, even though you're here to tell us, it's the working class team of Argentina. Yeah. Well, they voted for Amelia, right? I mean, they're moving in the right direction, too. One more for Dave. Lexi. And I actually want to get you on this, Lexi. Hey, Dave, what do you call your friends?

Are you a bro guy, chief, son, slick, big dog, brother, bro, man? So I have a bit of a rotation that I go through that include. I will sometimes go through a chief phase. I use boss a lot. I heard you guys talking. I do use brother to sort of depends on the context. Buddy, I like buddy. oh buddy's bad

feeling whimsical maybe pal you know buddy is for children that's for kids no you can get yeah exactly I lived in Brooklyn and in in Brooklyn I spent so long in Brooklyn

and there's like eight million of these like people call you Cheech like it doesn't matter so you know I have a lot of condescending don't you think

calling someone Chief sounds like you're basically calling them the opposite no it depends what is that by the way how you doing Chief hey there's a there's a

I'm a big fan of, it's Danny Boy Hustle Hard on Instagram. He is a valet, a driver for O'Dell Beckham Jr. He's connected to Jersey Jerry over at Barstool, and I really like him. He confronted Joe Scarborough outside of the airport. It's really hilarious. He goes after Joe Scarborough and says Donald Trump's going to win. But one thing I've known about Danny Boy is he calls everybody Cheech. And I don't even know what that is.

What does that mean, Cheech? Cheech, it's just, it's like Italian. It's just like, you know, like, if, If your last name was Cheecho, they might call you Cheech, right? But it just kind of means like you, guy, right? I mean, what does forget about it mean? What is not for nothing mean? It means whatever you want it to mean.

Lexi, you judgment on this. That is a good point about not for nothing. I will say. That's a good point. I hope you judge us. I do. Oh, I do. You should.

Good. Good. Yes. I'm judging you guys as you speak. Yes. What is your judgment? If I use one, which one you like. Let's say that, and I'm married, so we're not role playing here.

I mean, we are role playing, but only for TV. And I don't know if you're married, Lexi, but let's say we were all at the same bar, and you were halfway interested in me. And then you heard me say to Dave, hey, Cheech, or what's up? Hey, son, which one would you most harshly judge me for? Well, Cheech, I would think Cheech and Chong. So I would think maybe you had something going on, like maybe you were a user of substances. I wouldn't, son would be a little bit strange. Chief, like I said, sounds condescending.

Like, you would say that to somebody that you think is a loser, like, oh, hey, Chief. And then Buddy is what I call my nine-year-old. So, honestly, I don't, I'm not sure that there, I'm not really sure that there's like a good guy nickname. Although, bro is kind of a plastic. What? What's up, man?

Man is my go-to. Hey, man. I think that that's probably the best one. Yeah. I've always wanted, I've always had this nickname in my mind that I thought would be a great name. nickname for someone, but I haven't met the right person to give it to yet. The nickname is cold cuts.

I just think, I think cold cuts. Those are not cold cuts? Has it gone cold cuts? I just, I don't think you're going to meet the right person for that. I don't think the right person is going to go along for that one. I'm assuming it's him. I don't think that a woman would want to be called cold cuts. I think he could.

I think he just has to move back to, he needs to move back to Brooklyn. He can, he can have a friend that fits the name cold cuts, but he's got to go back to Brooklyn. Probably. And they've got to be mom. cold cuts in West Virginia? It's got to be like, you don't have cold cuts in West Virginia. All right.

All right. Lexie Rigged and Dave Marcus here on the Wilcane. I want to turn to a serious topic. Okay. So this is an interesting story that will give validation for all of Donald Trump's critics. It will also, I think, send the right people in the direction of does this actually represent justice? Liz Cheney is now accused of manipulating witnesses for the January 6th Select Committee,

as Donald Trump says, unselect committee. And the story is she coached, perhaps, Cassidy Hutchinson, their star witness about the way that she should go through testimony. Lexi, let's turn to use a lawyer first. Is this, to you, indicative of vindication against political opponents or retribution against political opponents? Or is this like real justice that needs to be pursued against Liz Cheney? I mean, I go both ways on it because obviously what she did, as far as the report goes, sounds like it was at the very least unethical with communicating. with somebody who's represented. I mean, she's a lawyer herself.

You can't do that. I cannot reach out to a witness if they're represented. I mean, that's a huge no-no. Now, the report did say that there is an ethical question based on her status as a member of Congress. But I kind of go both ways with this. If she actually broke the law, what they're calling for the FBI to do

is continue to look into it. But by the same token, Donald Trump is writing such a wave of public support, even with people that previously didn't support him, that you have to wonder whether the juice is worth the squeeze to even do this because you don't want, he doesn't want to prove his critics right necessarily. You know, I don't want people to be able to say, look, the second, even before he gets into office, this is what's being talked about because he hates her and now he's got his henchman in Congress writing this report against her. And I do think

that there is a possibility of people on the left saying, well, we told you so. And he doesn't need that. He's got bigger fish to fry. But again, I go back to if a law was actually broken, then as a lawyer, it's hard for me to sit here and say that that shouldn't be looked into. So I kind of have like a devil and an angel on my shoulders. I'm all the way, David. Like, is she did this? Go get her. That's how I feel. It's justice. Yeah. You know, I always try to look at this from the point of view of the American voter and specifically the voters who put Trump over the top and who could have put Harry. over the top, right? I don't think that they have an appetite for, we're going to throw

Lace Cheney in jail. I do think they have an appetite for getting to the bottom of what happened here, because what happened with the January 6th committee was really bad. And the American people have to kind of decide if they want Soviet-style show trials in prime time to be a permanent fixture of the American political landscape. My guess is that they don't. And I think that the way that Republicans can deal with this is by the House itself looking into this from the point of view of like, we can't ever let this happen again what went wrong. I think that would go far enough along with journalists continue to looking into it. I don't think prosecution is what the American people want to see right now. Yeah. So I appreciate what you're saying, David, about like, okay, you know,

what did the American people send you there to do? But I, and I'm perfectly willing to be self-aware and look myself in the mirror and say, am I being guilty of one of these people that over, over, um, overreed your, the mandate. But, you know, I, I've talked about this this week. You know, I got to go to Army Navy. Um, I got to be in this, in this, you know, really remarkable suite with the most powerful people in the world that included Elon Musk and J.D. Vance and Donald Trump and Mike Johnson and John Thune.

and Tulsi Gabbard, and on and on. And it's less like, oh, isn't this cool? It's, and there's a lot of, I can't believe I'm here, but I think there's an element of I can't believe we're all here. So what that means is it's full of outsiders that represents a really unique moment in American history. And what these outsiders are there to do is be disruptive. And disruptive almost can have a negative connotation.

So let me use a positive connotation to be change agents. But in order to make change, you're going to have to go out and root out a ton of corruption. And I think going after Liz Cheney, who's corrupt in this process, is probably a necessary step to heal, David. Like, I don't think healing is just the American people getting back to copacetic. Healing is, like, radiation, chemotherapy, and surgery to remove the cancer. And that has to happen, you know. We can't just take medicine and feel better.

We're going to have to get rid of the cancer. And there's a lot of cancer here. and I just think you have to do this because it's truth and justice here when it comes to Liz Cheney. It's these are complicated issues. Liz Cheney's gone, right? Liz Cheney's irrelevant. I mean, at this point, you could, she has no constituency. There's nothing that Liz Cheney can do.

She's been utterly and completely defeated. You know, this question of consequences and, you know, we haven't dealt with this with the COVID lockdowns yet, right? Right. We haven't had a real accounting of what went wrong there. And part of the reason is that everybody's so locked into their own position that if you try to tell the people who supported the lockdowns, well, just look at the science, it gets too emotional. You know what I mean? And I think we have some of that. You know what else, David? To your point earlier, you know what else, though? People are ready to move on. I mean, I might not be ready to move on. You might not be ready to move on. But to your previous analysis of like, but where are the American people? I think on COVID, American people are just like, done, move on. Yeah, but what happens the next time? I'm not talking about perhaps some of you watching, but your average Americans, like, I just, I'm tired of even hearing the word COVID. Yep. Yeah. No, you might be right. But I still think we need it because we're going to have another pandemic and we need to learn the lessons that, you know, the things we got wrong. Right. So I think this is tied, Lexi. I think this is a similar subject, although it's a slight pivot. So Donald Trump has now sued the Iowa Des Moines Register. Is it Anne Seltzer? It's Anne Seltzer, her name, the pollster. I'll definitely want to get David in on this. But so she puts out that poll, what was it, a week before the election, less than a week, and showed, she was 16 points off. She said that Kamala Harris, was going to win by like what was it four to six points and Donald Trump won it by double digits

and and you know everyone's looking at this and I think her history and David you probably know this more accurately is like she's actually been pretty good throughout history she's been pretty accurate so how all of a sudden is she so off and the answer one of the answers clearly is she wasn't it was propaganda it was fraud like she was trying to manipulate the election so the Trump campaign is going election interference consumer fraud you putting that out not because you were doing journalism, but because you were trying to manipulate people's minds. From a legal perspective, what do you think, Lexi? I think that might be a tough one. I mean, it's going to be a proofs issue. If he can prove that they actually violated a consumer fraud act by defrauding the

readers of that paper, I mean, that's obviously despicable conduct on any part left or right. But I think he might have a hard time with that. I mean, as I saw it, I thought this seems like a political posturing move more than, you know, even more than the Liz Cheney stuff, which raises legitimate questions. And I agree with Dave's point that we don't necessarily need to go, sorry to go back to that, but we don't need to go so far as to prosecution, but maybe we actually go into the process and how it was done to make sure that these congressional investigations don't have people on the subcommittees reaching out to witnesses. But in terms of the lawsuit, that seems like an uphill battle. I mean, he's gotten some wins recently,

notably against ABC and George Stephanophilus for calling him a rapist, which was completely inappropriate. But this to me, I'm reserving judgment on because I see where he's going with it, but I don't necessarily think that it doesn't necessarily connect for me. I know what the I know the allegation is essentially that if they put out a false poll saying that Democrats are that far up, they're going to be diverting resources to districts that are already up in the polls and they don't actually need them to be there and then doing something with the voter turnout. But right now as I see it, I don't know how far that that's going to go. But I did also want to make a comment to what you were saying before. I'm one of the people that still has an appetite

for exploring the COVID lockdown stuff. I have less of an appetite for anything having to do with J6. I'm sick of it. I think we all are on both sides. The COVID stuff was appalling and the way that kids were treated and people and businesses being cooped up in the house, being given false information and being basically fear mongered for two years, despicable. So I, if anyone's watching, I still have an appetite for it. I got to tell you, like, I have a huge appetite for both. COVID accountability and J6 truth. Obviously, COVID had a bigger impact on our daily lives and therefore requires some accountability. But J6, I might have had fatigue on that for a while, Lexi, but now I have reinvigorated

passion for the truth because we're learning things which suggests we were never even close to getting the full truth on it. And we deserve that because it was a central talking point. It was the central talking point for four years. Donald Trump is a threat to democracy

Exhibit A January 6th. And if, you know, there's what's the number? 26 FBI confidential human sources involved and so forth and Liz Cheney manipulation. I think we have to get some truth. David, I want to get you on suing the Iowa to Morton Register, though.

Yeah, I'll tell you, 15 or 20 years ago, if a president or incoming president of the United States was doing this, I'd probably would have set my hair on fire and been very afraid of the implications for freedom of the press and the First Amendment, less so today. And honestly, Will, it's because our industry is so utterly and completely broken. I mean, you look at, at, that you know, the CNN reporting that was supposedly this prisoner in Syria and now it turns out to be like a, I mean, an Assad agent.

I mean, this is this is insane. The fact that everybody involved with that didn't get fired is nuts, right? When the New York Times reported that, you know, Israel had bombed the hospital and they're 500 dead and it's like, oh, who's your source? Oh, our source is Hamas. Oh, the guys who just massacred a bunch of Jews. Oh, yeah, we just trusted them. Nobody got fired. these people are still doing their job.

So I'm sorry. Like, I'm well past the point of, you know, getting incredibly upset that Donald Trump is, is going to go sue these people. I mean, we need to fix our industry. That's the only way this gets any better. Well, it's one of two ways. I'm with you, David. Like, I would have, 10 years ago, this would have bothered me.

It'd have been like, is this, is, does this dampen free speech, you know? But the truth is our industry is so corrupted, like you said. there's got to be some accountability mechanism and there's only two one i think there there is a reason we have defamation as a as a you know caveat to free speech there's a reason that exists as a tort claim a civil claim it's because you just can't blatantly lie about people which they have been doing with impunity for a while now like yeah but there's also there's also a reason that that's a lot harder to do in the united states that it is in england or in france or in any of these other countries We've made a choice to err on the side of speech.

Which is good. Especially for public figures, because you have to show basically actual malice. Yes. Yeah. And that's why, by the way, if you turn on MSNBC, which I did last night, they're beside themselves with this settlement by ABC. Now, I don't, Lexi, you're a lawyer. I went to law school.

I'm licensed. I'm inactive. I don't think that was a bad case. Like, malice or reckless disregard for the truth is the standard for a public figure. And the way George Stephanopoulos behaved in that interview with Nancy Mace, to me, is pretty good evidence. And they have clips of him in the past, like with E. Jean Carroll, where he's being more careful with his word. So showing that he had times, had chosen to be careful. And this time he was choosing to be reckless.

I think it was a solid defamation case here against ABC. They probably didn't settle because of that. They probably settled because they were terrified of what could come out through discovery in terms of his texts and what else. was going to come out. But everyone else sees this as like a big, big retreat in the media. And I'm with David. I'm like, good. Then you have to attack. Because they've got to have a course correction on their behavior. Yeah, I have no, I have no problem with Trump suing on that. I mean, he was called a rapist. It wasn't accurate. I mean, you just can't do that. It's irresponsible journalism. It's getting into every, it's getting into just, it's seeping into the osmosis of the air.

And then all of a sudden, he's a rapist, just like he's Hitler. And so I don't, I don't disagree with him doing that. And I think that it was probably a little bit the strength of the suit, exactly what you said, which is that they didn't want to get into a discovery war with him. But also, ABC has really deep pockets. So if there was no there there, they probably would have taken it a little farther before settling, if they would even agree to. All right. Last subject, I want to hit here with David Marcus and Lexie Rigden here on our lunch break panel on the Will Kane show. I want to talk about daylight savings. Daylight saving. I love this topic. And I want to be careful because.

It makes people mad. This whole topic makes people mad, by the way. Daylight saving time. So it starts with Trump roughly one week ago, saying he wants to do away with daylight saving. So we're going to go to year-round standard time. Now, year-round standard time, and this is so confusing, I'm going to do my best for a day,

would mean basically earlier sunsets year-round, and then also earlier sunrises part of the year. If Marco Rubio and Katie Britt and some others got their way, we would have year-round daylight saving time. So that's longer days at the back end of the day. And by the way, guys, I've seen this chart, that chart, every chart on what maximizes sunlight, right? Like which formula maximizes sunlight?

It makes my head swim. I just know I like late sunsets. That's all I know. And I like consistency. I don't like manipulating the day. Okay, so you're hot on this. You want. I'm hot on this. I've tweeted about this a lot because it makes me, I detest going home. It's our, the sun's already setting in New Jersey where I am. I mean, it's already, it's already, you know, descending into twilight here. It's ridiculous. There's no reason to change it. I love daylight savings time. I want to keep daylight savings time. At least in December, children wouldn't be getting off the bus and it's dark because if the sun sets here around, I think it's actually before 4.30. But if it sets around here about 408 at the, at the, at the, at the very earliest, at least it would be past five. People could go home and it's twilight, fewer accidents

probably. I don't know if that's true or not, but I would assume it's true. The kids aren't getting off the bus in the dark. Now, I understand the flip side is that then they're getting on the bus in the dark. But I personally think that sunlight at the end of the day is more important than sunlight in the beginning of the day. I would rather have my sunlight at the end of the day. And I especially love daylight savings because the club, well, because there's a time change now, Daylight savings is in March, and sometimes it falls on my birthday. So it's a wonderful present for me because I get one hour less of my birthday, but an extra hour of light, and it's just lovely.

So when I saw that tweet, because I know Marco Rubio has been supporting keeping it permanent, when I saw Trump's tweet, I was crestfallen. And I'm really, really hoping that maybe he had it mixed up because I want to keep daylight savings time permanent. So come March, we should turn our clocks forward and never touch them again. So keeping daylight saving time. Here's, I think sunsets and sunrises are valuable, seeing them, being a part of them, them being a part of your life, like not waking up after the sunrises and, you know, not being at work while the sun sets.

I want to see them both. I think they're really good for everything about you. All right, David, while you're, I want to hear what you have to think. I was just looking up the history of this as well. I mean, it goes back to Benjamin Franklin in the 18th century. Franklin noted that waking up closer to sunrise gave him more hours of daylight to illuminate his home and that way allowed him to use fewer smoky and expensive candles, which helped him save energy. David.

Yeah, I mean, we don't really have that problem. I mean, John Kerry might think it's a good idea if we all sit in the dark. No, I'll tell you, my visceral reaction to this whole story is I spent a long time working as a mover in New York City. Man, and come December, like, my boys and I would be in the, in the cabot truck at like 4.35 o'clock, like, on the second job. And it suddenly looked like it was midnight outside. And it was just miserable. Like, it made that job, like, psychologically so much worse to be doing that in like at nighttime. It was horrible.

We hated it, hated it, hated it. So you would naturally think that I would be in favor of, you know, keeping daylight savings time. But I have a general rule, which is. is that I'm of the opinion that when you change anything, there's like a 95% chance that it winds up being worse. And so I just don't know, man. Like this has been like, like, I feel like there's unintended consequences here

that like we maybe haven't thought through. The change I would like to see is regardless of what we do with this, I think that the entire United States should be on Eastern time. I see no reason for the other three time zones to even exist. You make everything simpler. We all know Eastern time is the real time anyway. And what's the difference? Oh, my.

Oh, my gosh. That would be drastic. What difference would it make to a person in California if it's three instead of news? Be simpler for everyone. Do you see the background of this show? Okay, do you see this? This is not, this is the Americana show. This is not the New York show.

All right? I know you live in West Virginia. This eastern seaboard bias. Like, I was on Fox for this weekend going, you know, there's like wildfires in Southern California. almost burned down my alma mater like if that was on the east coast when it rains on the east coast it's a national news story it's a national news story you can have wildfires burning down something west of the mississippi and it's maybe maybe a headline at the end of a carly shimka's

reader it's because it's because the northeast the northeast is more important and better will that's why agreed jersey jersey chief among among it to bring to bring us full circle to the word chief absolutely why else would the drones be there they know exactly They just want to be part of us. And I see them often for the record. If the drones, if the drones were blanketing the skies of Oklahoma right now, we wouldn't be talking about it. Like, huh, interesting.

Move on. Did you guys hear about the Jets? Aaron Rogers had a good game. That's what the national, that's what would be happening in the news. It's like we're all a suburb of New York. And by the way, that's over. That's over. America is now centered in the middle.

That's America. Right where you are, right? You should do it. Where's the incoming president? an incoming Democratic Majority Leader or the House from. I guess Trump's technically from Florida now, but we all know. Why do we care about where the Democratic minority leader mean? The House Majority Leader is from Louisiana.

No, House Minority Leader. Jeffrey. He will be. Yeah, but I don't care about the Democrats minority leader. I care about the House Majority Leader from Shreveport, Louisiana, and the Senate Majority Leader from South Dakota. America has positioned itself back to the center of gravity, central time zone. All right.

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