Will Cain Country - Tomi Lahren & Codie Sanchez: Why Daniel Penny Needed To Go Free, What's Going On In Syria, & How To Become A Millionaire In Your Hometown 

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

Story #1: Breaking news as Daniel Penny is found not guilty! Also, why is the internet championing the United Healthcare CEO killer? Plus, the media is getting ready to come after Director of National Intelligence nominee Tulsi Gabbard, but they are not yet done with Secretary of Defense nominee, Pete Hegseth. Breaking down what it all means with the host of Tomi Lahren is Fearless on OutKick, Tomi Lahren.  Story #2: What is going on in Syria? What does it mean for America? Will shares President-elect Donald Trump's perfect lesson in global conflict.  Story #3: How you can become a Mainstreet Millionaire! What business can you buy and run that actually helps people in your community and make you a millionaire? Will sits down with Codie Sanchez to discuss her new book, 'Main Street Millionaire.' Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, breaking news, Daniel Penny found not guilty, the Marine Vet, hero of New York City Subways, today validated by the people of New York, acquitted, not guilty, Daniel Penny. Plus, the internet champions, the United Healthcare CEO assassin. while the media and Democrats turn to Tulsi Gabbard, but they're not quite yet done with Pete Heggsett. We break that all down with the host of Tommy Laren is fearless at Outkick. Tommy Lairn.

Two, Syria has been turned over. It's been turned over from Bashar al-Assad, though, to the jihadis. Who's now in control of Syria? A perfect leveson in global conflict from Donald Trump. Three, Main Street Millionaires. I've followed this person on social media

for years. Her advice is awesome. She's telling you what businesses to buy, what businesses to run. There aren't flashes in the plan, but brick and mortar, laundromats, and plumbers, and how to become a millionaire in your hometown. Cody Sanchez on The Will Kane Show. It is the Will Cain Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page.

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We're always here at Fox News, YouTube, and Fox News, Facebook, but set a reminder on YouTube, and you can make sure you're always here, a member, if you will, of the Willis Show. Always here with the Willcane Show. There is breaking news right now as we speak. Daniel Penny, the Marine vet, who subdued Jordan Neely on the New York City subway system, appreciated by passengers that day who felt their life threatened by the homeless man, subsequently charged by Alvin Bragg in New York City, has been acquitted this morning, this hour by a New York City jury. You know, in the days after November 4th, one of the great takeaways, I think, from the re-election of Donald Trump, the president of the United States, was the reestablishment of some faith in humanity. We learned that you're not extreme.

You're not far right. You're actually mainstream. The Avengers and Wonder Woman, they're extreme. They're out of touch. You are the mainstream. We also learned you're not alone. I mean, Donald Trump won. He won black men, he won white women, he won Latinos, he won suburban voters, he won New York

City to numbers never won by a Republican. He won the Northeast. And one of the big takeaways from me was, wow, there's still faith in America. We're not alone. We're not extreme. We're in the mainstream. And we still believe in America. to me that's the takeaway here the quick takeaway of justice

Daniel penny shows that New York City is not completely taken over by insanity that even if leaders like Alvin Bragg want to diminish the idea of the hero and lift up the villain as your champion there's still people in New York City that say no no we believe in heroes and we believe in Daniel Penny we want to get into that because I also want to talk about another villain that has been lifted to the status of hero and that's the assassin of the united health care CEO also want to talk about tulsie gabbert as the attacks mount on tulsie gabbert they're not quite done with pete higset let's get into all of that with story number one tommy laran is the host of tomby laran is fearless at outkick

dot com she's my friend i saw her last week at the patriot awards and she joins us here now on the will cane show hi tommy it's great to be with you you know it was great to be in new york it's even better to be back in Tennessee. I'm sure you're happy to be in Texas. And honestly, after this not guilty verdict for Daniel Penny, I suggested to your producer that Daniel Penny needs to come to Tennessee. He needs to go to Texas. Obviously, I prefer Nashville.

But he needs to get the hell out of New York. I agree with you. There are some reasonable-minded folks there. I agree 100% with the verdict. I'm so happy that justice was served. But it's never going to be a safe place for him there. There's already protests erupting outside of the courthouse. get out of New York, come to a great state where people will hail you as the hero that you are, Daniel Penny.

I promise you, you come here, you will get a hero's welcome. Life doesn't have to be this hard. That's one of the great things people learn after they move out of New York City. And I lived in New York City for 15 years. One of the things that ultimately pushed us out, besides our Texas Zionism, that I just couldn't bear the thought any more of my boys not being raised in Texas. But it's that life doesn't have to be that hard. Like, it doesn't have to be a beating to get to work on the subway.

system. It doesn't have to be fighting through crowds to get into the office. It doesn't have to be this hard. It doesn't have to be that doing good things is punished by the leaders, like Eric Adams, although he may be beginning to see the light, or Alvin Bragg or Kathy Hochel. It doesn't

have to be this way. But I do take some solace, Tommy, because while you're right, there are those insane leaders. And by the way, there are insane people to your point, like BLM leaders who said, if you think Daniel Penny is not guilty, then you're a there are those people and maybe there'll be protests and that'll be a real sad statement for

New York but for now just for this moment Tommy I am I am emboldened by the idea that 12 people in New York City got together having lived their life probably ridden that subway and said no I can see with clear eyes who's the bad guy and who's the good guy yeah I mean to me the evidence was so overwhelming that he acted obviously in good faith trying to protect the people around him. And of course, I was watching Fox News this morning, watching Paul Morrow on America reports. And he was saying, hey, listen, if you all want to complain about Daniel Penny because he's white and you want to make this about race, let's talk about the fact that Daniel Penny in that subway, Jordan Neely probably wouldn't have picked him to be the one that would be the victim because

he was a big guy. He was looking around probably for other more soft targets like the women and the children. Daniel Penny stood up to protect people of color on that subway. So for now, wanting to try to villainize him as some kind of a bad white guy, which they repeated over and over again in court, by the way. It just makes no sense. He was standing up to protect people who were not of his same race. He did it thinking nothing about race. It was just about doing the right thing. So if y'all want to riot and you want to protest, quite frankly, it's obvious to me, BLM is trying to fundraise off of this. They haven't had their moment in a couple of years because the anti-Israel anti-Semitic pro-terrorists, they've been the ones getting all the attention. So BLM wants, to get back in the game, but it's really sick and it's really sad. And I don't think that the public sentiment for BLM is where it was in 2020. I think people have moved on. They've realized that organization is corrupt. All right. I want to move on to another story that's in the news. Today, we're following very closely. But before I do, let's take a little break, a moment of Zen

to just reflect on the media. I want to share with you, Tommy, this clip from MSNBC. There's been a little bit of a mutiny when it comes to the audience, when it comes to MSNBC, specifically Morning Joe, because Joe Scarborough and Mika Brasinski visited Donald Trump at Marlago. There's even some reports, and I don't, I shouldn't call reports, maybe there are rumors. I don't know what they are on me that, like, there was a confrontation between Rachel Maddow and Mika Bersinski. But it's all about this meeting, this meeting that the Morning Joe team had with Donald Trump.

And their audience has been crushed. Like, I don't know how far they're down, but it's like very, very, very significant percentages of their audience have left Morning Joe. So here now is Joe Scarborough's message to his audience, Tommy. Two things. You can do two things at the same time. You can say he had fascist rhetoric and still go in and talk to him. You know why I do that?

To get the reed of the man. You know why I went in and talked to Macron to get the read of the man at a crucial time in EU funding and NATO funding? Do you know why I went to leaders in the Middle East who were angry. at the United States and I sat there and I listened to them attacking me personally for 45 minutes because of U.S. policy. You know why I do that to get the weed of the leader, to get the read of where the country's going. So I can come back here and talk to you and let you know what the hell is going on.

So I don't know, Tommy, like, okay, you created Frankenstein, doctor. Dr. Scarborough, you conditioned your audience into believing that Donald Trump is a Nazi and a fascist and should never be interacted with, but rather that he's a threat to democracy who needs to be disposed, disposed with. You created Frankenstein, Dr. Scarborough. I don't know if yelling at Frankenstein gets him back in line. Like, this is the current strategy. Yell at your audience. Then they'll return to MSNBC. Yeah, well, they also need to learn this lesson. You can't throw out red meat for years and years and years. And then all of a sudden switched to toe and expect people to be satisfied with that.

No, you had a shtick. It was hating Donald Trump. It was Donald Trump's a fascist. And so then when you so quickly flip to something else, people didn't understand it. Your audience is made up of people who watch you because they hate Trump. So you have to continue with that narrative because you've always been dishonest. You have to keep up the dishonesty.

You can't drop it so quickly because then people are going to be confused. But that's the problem with MSNBC as a whole. They've been doing this. They have one narrative. and so now if they want to soften that at all, the ones that they still have listening and watching, they're not going to like that because they tune in just to get the red meat and the anti-Trump. So they're all in a tough spot.

They don't have the majority anymore. The majority of this country voted for Donald Trump. And so now they want to yell at their audience because they're mad about their ratings. Quite frankly, I think karma, oh, karma is not our friend, and certainly not the friend of Joe and Miko over there at MSNBC. But I really love it for them because they're super deserving. well there is your media break moment of zen now i want to return to this other story that is that is blowing up the internet and that's the story of the united healthcare ceo assassin it's the weirdest

story um tommy on a multiple levels but the breaking news of the moment is according to foxnews dot com a person matching the ceo murder suspect's description has been taken into a cut into custody out of McDonald's in Pennsylvania, Altoona, Pennsylvania, 100 miles east of Pittsburgh. Someone has been taken into custody. But the weird thing about this story, Tommy, is the way this guy has sort of been championed, definitely defended, and not been pursued.

So what I mean by that is on a lot of these cases where it's a mystery, whodunit, we've got some clues. The Internet jumps in. They do the job. But it's been the opposite here, Tommy. It's been, instead, it's been a lot of people on the Internet going, no, no, no. Don't narc on this guy.

Don't snitch on this guy. This guy is the good guy in this scenario that health care companies. And by the way, we can have a legitimate debate, a serious one, not without merit, that health care companies deny way too much in coverage and claims and maximize profits by not extending their benefits that have been paid for by consumers. But that doesn't add up to assassination. It doesn't add up to what's happening right now. In my mind, Tommy, this is another example of us taking the villain and making him the hero.

Yeah. And it's also really disturbing to me the way that the left has really turned to, especially in the last several years, political violence as a tool for change. I mean, it seems to be that's the go-to. And then they hail and they celebrate the people that assassinate a husband and a father. And then they have the, I'm sure you're going to talk about it, but the look-alike contest in New York City, people wanting to buy his jacket, TMZ reporting that these internet sleuths that should have been working to help find out who the guy was, identify him and bring him to justice. We're actually trying to to find his coat and then it was being sold out online because people want to wear his ugly coat because they feel like he's some sort of martyr. But what I feel like this is really is kind of the remnants of that whole Occupy Wall Street movement. A lot of rich white kids who suddenly want to rail against the man or want to rail against people who have money. Of course, that eat the rich narrative that they love so much. That's what this is. It's people struggling to find their place in the world. They want to have a cause. They don't really have one. They want to feel oppressed.

They're really not. And so they look at this guy as some kind of a martyr for them. It's very weird. I also expect the people that are hailing this assassin as some kind of a hero, probably still wear masks. They probably have unnatural hair colors. That's just my assumption. Maybe not all of them, but I'd say a good majority, well.

Yeah, they have turned this guy. By the way, the ammunition had, I believe, denied defend, depose on the spent ammo cartridges. they turn this guy into Guy Fawkes, right? The Guy Fawkes wearing mask, mask-wearing guy from V for Vendetta. That's kind of who they've turned this guy into. And I just think it's symptomatic. And I think it's a very, very unhealthy symptom. And again, I think if you're in the comment section and you disagree,

because this isn't an interesting divide on the Internet, Tommy. If you disagree, this isn't necessarily a defense of United Healthcare. I don't know enough to know about their policies. but even if I know all their policies and have the standing to sit here today and condemn them, you don't condemn them to death, right? You don't condemn them to murder, to assassination. And I just think it's a real weird place that we find ourselves in society. From Daniel Penny and Jordan Ely to this guy and the United Healthcare CEO,

we're having trouble figuring out good guys from bad guys. To me, no such trouble when it comes to Pete Hegg-Seth. But I wanted to walk through with you the latest on Pete, Tommy. But there's just been some fun stuff. I say fun. Probably not fun for my guy, Higgs-Seth. But fun stuff they're now starting to launch and the attacks.

Let's go to this one first. I think we have a full screen of Pete at the 9-11 Memorial during the seal swim, placing an American flag. And I want you to see what they had to say. I'll read it for you if you can't see it. But Trump's pick for Secretary of Defense visiting the 9-11 Memorial in his underwear.

The Pentagon has nothing to worry about. Our armed forces have long to be led by a drunk rapist in his underwear. Tommy, underwear. He just swam the Hudson with Navy SEALs, did 300 push-ups and 66 pull-ups, and he's laying a flag at the memorial for 9-11. Yeah, but Will, they either know this and they're just purposely misleading people,

or they are that stupid that they couldn't figure out, that maybe there was a reason for him to be dressed or, I guess, undressed in that way. But it's just the outrage. And, Will, we know it's a couple of things. They hate anybody who Donald Trump's going to pick, so that's one, that's primary. And two, they hate Fox News.

So you've got Pete Heggseth that is a Fox News person, also a Trump pick, also a masculine male. So they aren't going to like him anyway. It wouldn't matter if he walked across the river. They aren't going to like him for those reasons. And they're trying to pull all these things out of the woodwork, really grasping at straws, they're trying to make him seem like he's this bad guy and trying to concoct things out of nowhere.

I think it's starting to fade away, though. I think that there's going to be other Trump picks that are going to get the, yeah, they're going to get the brunt of it next. I mean, they're just really going down the line seeing how much they can get. But I honestly, as we begin this week, I feel like Pete's in a better spot than he was last week. I think the droning on and on is getting old. People are sick of it and they've moved on. I think Pete's going to be okay.

Now we just have to make sure that these Republican senators, senators fall in line, but other than that, I think it's looking better for him than it was last week. I do too. I totally do, Tommy, but that's, that, because of that, I think it's just getting a little more desperate. It's just getting a little more panicked. So like, here's some stuff that's coming out.

Like, so here's a, this is a troll account. I don't, it's just not ways you should even take seriously, but I'm still going to have fun with it. Talking about Pete's drinking the show. Oh my gosh, he's on set drinking. The show is literally about having whiskey. a sip of whiskey, and talking with warriors about their battle stories, and they're using it as example of Pete being a drunk. Here is the latest from Politico, Tommy. Politico has now said

Pete's too aggressively Christian. That was yesterday. They came this out. Pete Hegseth crusade to turn the military into a Christian weapon. Can you imagine that headline, by the way, if it said Muslim or Buddhist or anything else? There's literally no other religion they would do that with. And the reason they're getting panicked, Tommy, I think, is because, like you said, is falling into line. And ultimately, he has the most important support he has to have, which is Donald Trump and the rank and file of the military. This was from frocks and friends this weekend, Tommy, me talking to guys rank and file heroes who fought a 20-year war. Watch. Chad, do the warfighter support Heg-Seth?

Absolutely. I've never seen a groundswell of support in my 30 years around the military like I'm seeing right now, for Pete Higgs at Sack deaf. And Mark, you as well, as you take your pulse of the guys you served with, does he have support among the rank and file? Yeah, he does. I think it's very broad in who supports him, and I think he's going to be a great leader.

All right, Scott, let's go to the Special Forces community. Do they support Hegseth? Yeah, I've been reaching out to a lot of Green Berets, Will, and a ton of support from the Special Forces Greenbury community on Pete, absolutely. So Tommy, here's a little bit of breaking news. I can share with everybody first. Two things.

One, Pete will be at the Army-Navy game. A lot of talk about, oh, my gosh, Ron DeSantis is going to join Donald Trump. DeSantis, a Navy vet. Well, guess who also will be in the box with Donald Trump, an Army vet, Pete Hegseth? And two, I happen to know about two petitions going around, Tommy. One, by Navy Seals, and I'm going to tell you, by the end of the day, if you go to my ex-feed, you're going to see it's going to be impressive. the number and the names of seals and seal community who are signing on to support Pete Heggs,

but not to be outdone, the Green Berets and Special Forces are circulating their own petition. I mean, if you're Joni Ernst and you don't want to be out of touch with the rank and file, you might be paying attention because the rank and file is getting behind Pete Heggsett. Yeah, exactly. And I think what you're doing has been really effective as well in the campaign that you've launched really on social media. all of us that know Pete, obviously, we're all in agreement on this. But I think for the world to see people who aren't Fox News viewers, they don't know a lot about Pete, I think what you're doing is so important. And I think that that's why he terrifies a lot of folks. And even the Republicans, the rhinos, on what we thought is our own side, I think that they're terrified of somebody like a Pete Hegseth who doesn't play their game. He doesn't fall in line. He really does care about the warriors and the warfighters. He really does care about serving our country and also serving the American. taxpayer that's going to be funding this giant department that he has been tapped to lead. So that terrifies them. And I also, going back to some of the stupid criticisms online, I think,

at least be consistent. Either you're scared of him because he's this Uber Christian or you think he's a horrible guy. I mean, you can't have both there. You can't say he's too Christian and he's a piece of trash. Like those two things don't go together. But I wouldn't expect the online trolls to get it or understand it. Like I said, these same people probably also have green hair. and probably are also still wearing a COVID mask. All I appreciate what you said. All I'm doing is what I consider. First of all, I'm biased.

I've said that to my audience. I want you to know that. I am biased. And I think he should ask yourself why I'm biased towards Pete Heggseth, because all I feel like I'm doing is my job, which is to tell the truth. That's why last week of the Patriot Awards, as David Rubin noticed,

I said on the stage, along with my co-host, Rachel Campos Duffy, that Pete Heggseth would make one hell of a secretary of defense. The audience seemed to agree with that, as Dave Rubin pointed out. he was in the audience and then Tommy there was a moment at the Patriot Awards you and I hung out a little

and Donald Trump unveiled a new move I think Tommy he came out he accepted the award for Patriot of the year he did the normal Trump dance

and then he added a little something new Tommy let's check it out there's a role Tommy I know you can't see necessarily or if you're listening at Spotify

Apple or on radio. So what happens is we got the normal Trump dance and then the golf swing. Okay, we've seen those two moves, but there's like a roll in the middle that transitions from the Trump dance into the golf swing. It's getting complicated and sophisticated, Tommy. It is, and I love it. And also, you know, you and I were both there. We were just feet away from the president-elect. And, you know, I've seen President Trump many times. I have not seen him. so thoroughly joyful. And I know that the left thought that they coined the joyful thing, the vibes and whatever, but Donald Trump, he always comes across to me like he's happy to be there.

But even seeing him the other night, he just looked really happy to be there. And when I saw him on Meet the Press yesterday, he was the most calm, relaxed, under control that I've ever seen him in a mainstream media interview. This is a new Donald Trump. It's somebody who knows he's fought so hard, and now he really feels the full. full weight of the American people behind him. And I think that's why you're seeing the new dance moves, too. It's just a great time to be an American right now.

And I loved seeing Donald Trump on the stage. Yeah, everybody's just feeling good. I think you're, I don't think that's, I think what you're saying is true, Tommy, and I think it's actually deep. And I think it's one of those things that people don't think it's deep until you think about it a little more. This is real joy. That was fake joy being sold to you for you to sign on to.

You're actually seeing real unifying joy. I really believe that in America. All right. finally, we mentioned this. It was predictable, Tommy, and we could even predict it out even further, but after Matt Gates, it was going to move to Pete Heggsett. After Pete Heggsett, it would move to Tulsi Gabbard. And by the way, after Tulsi Gabbard, it will move to RFK or maybe Cash Patel. I can't predict the exact order. I can only predict the exact playbook. And here's the playbook, which we've seen before, Tommy. This is what they're saying about Tulsi Gabbard this week as she visits Washington,

D.C. The headline is from NBC News. Nearly 100 former national security officials. alarmed that prospect of Gabbard leading Intel community. Elon Musk said, I'd love to see the Venn diagram on how many of those overlap with the 51 intelligence experts who told us that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. We know this playbook, Tommy. Yeah, we do.

And I'd also say to these folks who are going to go after Tulsi and they're going to go after RFK Jr. Let's not forget that it wasn't long ago when Tulsi Gabbard stood on the stage next to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. campaigning to be the Democrat nominee in 2020. I mean, for you guys to flip on her this quickly, she was going to be the future of the Democrat Party,

and then all of a sudden she saw the light, she came to the middle, and she supported Donald Trump, and now all of a sudden she's a threat and a concern. You guys wanted her to be the face of your party. You lost her, and now you're worried about her. So, again, it's the consistency that I have a real problem with. We know that they're going to come after people like Hash Patel and Pete Hegg Seth and probably Pam Bondi and others.

But when you come after people that are from your own party that not long ago you hailed as the future of your party, I mean, please spare me. Spare me, Will, because it's so disingenuous and it's so bogus. I'm looking forward to this process playing out. I'm looking forward to the American people learning more about these nominees because I think that that's going to be beneficial for Donald Trump and for the nominees themselves. But please spare me with a fake outrage from the left. You just can't go from being on the stage next to Joe and Kamala to now she's the biggest threat in the world in four and a half. half years. I'm sorry, it doesn't work that way. Her show starts in about 30 minutes.

She's got a bigger budget than I do. That's clear. I can see Christmas decorations in the background here. She's got a Christmas tree, hot pink themed in coordination with her show, which I'm jealous of on multiple levels, mostly the budget. But to see your show here in the holiday season, it means everyone's got to tune in, 30 minutes here. Tommy Leran is fearless. I always love having you on.

I love coming on your show as well, Tommy. Thanks, Will. And I know that you forgot to mention that when we were at the Patriot Awards, I did shade you just a little bit because I noticed your hair was growing out in the back and it looked really familiar to one of your very close friends that we just talked about, Pete Hegseth, and I asked you if you were trying to emulate in solidarity with Pete or you were just changing up the hairstyle if you were growing the short mullet that Pete once had. And I think your audience would be very curious because I don't think they can see the back of your head from the way that your studio is position. So please do enlighten them. I think they would love to know. Can you see? I don't know if you have returned, Tommy. I don't know if you can see me. I do. With the back of my head right now. You notice something different? My hair is different. Because I used to joke with Pete, look, man, we're not wolves. We're sheep. We just are the sheep that bleed on their way to the slaughterhouse. So apparently, I'm so influential by Tommy Laren. And by the way, you were backed up by a producer on Friday when I got into New York on Jesse Waters show. Said, what are you doing, man? Are you doing head's hair?

in memoriam. And I'm like, okay, first of all, I came across an Instagram video with a dude that had like a little bit wavier, longer hair, and I'm like, I like that. I want that. And I've got a little bit of a wave to my hair, but it turns out I have more afro than wave. So as it grows, it just gets poofier. And I wanted to fall curls, but it didn't. And along the way, I was hit by a producer in Tommy Laren that I was copying Pete Hegsett. So promptly, because you have so much influence apparently over me, Tommy, on Saturday, I went to the barber, and it's all gone. It's all gone. to short hair again right now. Congratulations. You shamed me, Tom. You know, I'm going to, I didn't mind the long hair. I thought it looked good. It did look a little peat-like, but I'm just happy to know

that I have that much influence on you well. I really do appreciate that. But, you know, I think you just do you. There's only one Will Kane, and you just keep up with that. Okay, Tommy. Thank you so much. All right. Look forward to seeing you soon on Tommy Laren as Fearless. Thanks, Tommy Lairn. All right, coming up, big global conflict news, okay, Syria, Bashar al-Assad being deposed, perhaps being taken over by jihadis, ISIS, and al-Qaeda. Who and what are we to do here in America? Well, how about we just rewind the clock?

I've got some sound. I got a video from our president's elect, soon to be 47th President of the United States, Donald Trump. And I think it perfectly lays out what should be done in Syria next on the Will Cain Show. It is time to take the quiz. It's five questions in less than five minutes. We ask people on the streets of New York City to play along. Let's see how you do.

Take the quiz every day at thequiz.com. Then come back here to see how you did. Thank you for taking the quiz. Will, how many people has this guy killed in New York City by denying payment for treatments? How many people has he killed refusing to pay for Ivermectin and forcing people to get the approved chemo that has killed? That message from Kevin Lewis on YouTube. It is the Will Kane Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Always on demand at Apple or on Spotify by just subscribing or joining us every Monday through Thursday.

live at Fox News, YouTube, Facebook, and Fox News.com. By the way, Dixie B is over in the comments section. Hey, Dixie, you said, Will, you did a great job on Benny. I had no idea you broadcast it here. Thank you. Well, first of all, thank you, Dixie for joining us. I was just on the Benny show, Benny Johnson's show on YouTube and on X. And I'm glad to hear that some of you have followed me over here.

We're live here, as I mentioned, every Monday through Thursday, right here at Fox News, YouTube. to welcome you into the Wilicia, as pointed out by Andy Q, we are the Wilicia, we rock. That's exactly right, Andy. Thank you so much. I'm going to return to your comments here in just a minute on the Will Kane show. So, breaking news as of yesterday, Bashar al-Assad has left Syria. What does this mean for America? Let's talk about this, because this is the threat that threatens to extend forever wars engulf us in another middle eastern conflict see chaos and never-ending bombing and creating yet another global enemy balanced against the need to impose order on a world full of chaos what i mean by this is bar Shah al-Assad and the al-Assad family after ruling over syria for something

like half a century has fled to russia the syrian civil war taking place for a dozen years now has not come to a conclusion, has only deposed the stabilizing, if malevolent, but somewhat stabilizing force in the region. What I mean by that is we've seen this game play out. We've just seen it. You and I saw it happen in Iraq, saw it happen in Libya. You take out a bad guy, yes, a bad guy. And what happens in its place? Multiple bad guys like snakes on a hydra rise. Isis, al-Qaeda, al-Qaeda, and the Levant, whatever it may be, pop up, fight. and the world turns ugly. And we just hope that that blowback doesn't end up on the doorstep of America.

The CIA has been playing its role in Syria. And it's not just the CIA that's been backing various rebel groups in Syria. We've got 900 American soldiers right now, 900 in Syria. Now, we hope the quote-unquote good guys win and not the ISIS al-Qaeda jihadi guys. And there are bombings going on right now, encouraged by Lindsey Graham, but there are bombings going on. That's breaking news overnight. the U.S. is bombing throughout Syria suspected al-Qaeda

rebel strongholds hoping our rebels, our CIA backed guys, win. But look, this is like the great global game. Like, of course, Iran is a player. Iran, though, had Bashar al-Assad. So now they're a big loser

in this scenario. Turkey is a big player. Turkey wants in, you know, they don't want Kurds, Kurdish, or Kurdistan people on their doorstep. They want a buffer zone. I did pull this, by the way. I just think this is historically fascinating.

I think we have this map we can put up for you. You understand this entire part of the world is divided into tribes. These lines, just keep this up for a moment, two of days. These lines that you see, you see the lines of Iraq, Syria, below Syria, you can see the lines of Jordan. To the west there, you see Lebanon and Israel.

These lines are all lines drawn in the sand after World War I. This is the breaking up of the world. the Ottoman Empire. This is creating nation states out of deserts. And really what underneath lies all of that are tribes, tribes that do not get along, some Shia, some Sunni, you know, that have not just decades, but millennia of fighting one another. Well, one of the groups are the Kurds, right? And the Turks don't like the Kurds. The Bath Party in Iraq didn't like the Kurds. The al-Assad's in Syria didn't like the Kurds. The Kurds have been often an American ally in some of these wars. Look how much land,

by the way, where the Kurds are dispersed. Like, if you've really drawn the world up by tribes and not random nation states, the Kurds would really stretch from Iran through the north of Iraq, through Syria, into Turkey. Now, that's never going to happen. Turkey's not going to allow that to happen. But this is the great big fight that now takes over the Middle East. And it makes you say, Okay, what do we do? What does America do? Do we let chaos take over? Do we let the jihadis set up an Islamic state?

Which, by the way, they don't just want Syria. I mean, they want a caliphate that extends from Turkey into Syria, through Iraq, into northern Africa, into Afghanistan. And quite honestly, I saw a video with Sean Ryan, great podcaster Sean Ryan, with the guy saying they don't look at the United States and see the United States. they see the Islamic caliphate provinces of North America. This is a global jihadist division.

We talked with Special Forces leader Scott Mann about this on numerous occasions. But still, like, does that mean this is our fight? Well, this is what I think it means right now. Found this video. It's fascinating. It's Donald Trump from a while back talking about when your enemies fight one another. Watch this. So Taliban is our...

enemy. ISIS is our enemy. We have an area that I brought up with our generals four or five weeks ago where Taliban is here, ISIS is here, and they're fighting each other. I said, why don't you let them fight? Why are we getting in the middle of it? I said, let them fight. They're both our enemies. Let them fight. Sir, we want to do it. They go in and they end up fighting both of them. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. I think I would have been a good general, but who knows? I think it's pretty good piece of evidence that he would have been a good general. That's not ass-kissing, man.

That is the art of the deal. That's negotiation. That's a read of the land. That is, why do you stop your enemies from fighting one another? Now, look, the world is full of ugly things. It is. And we don't want those ugly things to happen.

I don't want the Christians. I don't want the Druze in Syria to be slaughtered. I don't. The question is, does it serve Americans' interest to go protect those people from the things that are awful that happen in the world. And when we do, how do we pick and choose the ones that we step and intervene in?

Because there's awful things happening in Africa. There's awful things happening in Latin America. There are awful things happening in the United States of America. I think we've learned we need to figure out how we pick and choose globally and focus on the things that happen in America and allow our enemies to fight it out amongst themselves. Turning back to your comments to the will issue here. want to readdress Kevin Lewis. You know, Kevin, even if, who says to me, how many people

did the United Healthcare CEO kill by denying payments for treatment or making people take approved chemos or vaccines and denying Ivermectin? All that's true, Kevin. All that could be true. I don't know the particular details of whatever has happened at United Health Care. But I think that we can distinguish between bad policies and intentional killing. And they can't make the step of turning this guy into Viva Vendetta because he fought back violently against bad policies. This is an upside-down world where we're having trouble distinguishing villains from heroes. Robert Sandoval says regarding Daniel Penny, not guilty. The blue state world is slowly changing.

I think that's true. You know, we'll talk about Donald Trump and all the different groups that he won with, you know, black men, suburban women, young men. I don't think enough attention's been given. into the gains that he made in northeastern blue states, including New York City. Allen over on YouTube says Daniel Penny should never have been charged. True. Peter Christo says Daniel Penny must run for office now.

Andrew Steck says good citizens should not be rewarded, not be rewarded, not treated like criminals. I think they mean should be rewarded, not treated like criminals. I'm betting I'm reading between the lines. That's what you meant, Andrew. Kurt Newman says Let the civil cases begin More money and resources wasted My opinion

He should go back into the Marine Corps And then Myra Denison says Glad not found Guilty with all the crimes happening In New York I agree, Myra You don't want to go anywhere Because coming up here on the Wilcane show

is somebody that I really come to like Appreciate very magnetic, charismatic, Smart Cody Sanchez has a heck of a following on Instagram and TikTok. She's constantly talking about the way to get rich, but not the flash in the pan, develop a new app,

be on the cutting edge of AI stuff. She's talking about buying laundromats and becoming a plumber. She's talking about not running off to the big city, but how you invest in your community and your hometown? And while doing that, become a main street millionaire.

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It was great. I've known Benny for quite some time. We haven't had a lot of professional interactions. I'd say in the last, it's been almost 10 years. but I always appreciate Benny and him having me on this show today so we appreciate you joining us here on the Wilcane show

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yesterday right and that's the world of college football let's clear our throats with this you guys are big baseball fans do you want to say something about one soto go ahead like i do i'm mad i'm angry as the yankee fan it's terrible i mean it's a huge contract good luck and good luck with the mets that's all i have to say just good luck don't suck good luck what's the contract remind us of how much money won soto is going to get us on that 175 million dollars

15 years 765 million dollars that's correct that's what 51 million a year or something like About that, yeah. All right. He's 26. I don't know that... Allegedly. I don't know that you're going to get $51 million a year by listening to Cody Sanchez and Main Street Millionaire in just a moment,

but you are going to get some real good advice on how to build your own millionaire business. But I wanted to talk about college football before we get to Cody really quickly. I think it all worked out, fellas. I did a podcast this morning on Texas football, coffee and football. It's about Texas Longhorn stuff, so look. When I do that, it's like, you know, this is my job? I'd be doing this by myself, mumbling it to myself in my office. But I get to talk longhorn football.

I talked about the game against Georgia. I have a lot of thoughts. Look, I know some of you that watch. I just want to say this. I know you turn to me. And I think you turn to me often because, like, I like to think I'm pretty sober-minded and logical, and I'll try to look at the world rationally. I just want you to know something.

I don't do that when it comes to sports. Like, I don't, and I'm not, okay? I refuse to. I'm incredibly passionate, Longhorn Cowboy Maverick fan. No, Patrick. You're quiet Saturday. Especially on game day, I don't. You're quiet.

By the way, I think I'm going to Longhorn Clemson college football playoff game. And there's already a family squabble about where I can sit and what I can wear. It's a real problem. Why? As you guys know, the nephew plays for Clemson. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I bleed burn orange. What do you do in that scenario?

the way. Just a nice orange t-shirt. I think because you went there, you can wear it. Texas? Yeah. So I go Texas

over Clemson. I'm voting for my nephew to do well. But I don't think that means I have to root for Clemson to beat Texas, right? High school and game. That's like complicated.

Split jersey. So you have your nephew on one side. No. No. I hate that. You got to do it. I think only moms. I think only moms.

Yeah, what did he, Mrs. Kelsey? Like, you have a son on both team. Mrs. Kelsey? But back to the playoffs, I think it worked out. I really do. Oh, but I was irrational on Saturday. I was. I still think the game wasn't called really well.

I thought it was bad officiating, totally lopsided. Real quick story. Dan, I played college sports. I'm a D-1 athlete. Does everybody understand that? I'm a D-1 athlete. Okay. All right.

Sure. Thanks for telling us that. You're a good swimmer. You're a really good swimmer. I like to throw that down. I like to throw that down. Luckily, you laugh. I can't deny that.

No, but I do remember my college water polo coach working the refs. Look, refereeing is subjective. It just is, okay? And he used to point out, like, at halftime, hey, do you realize you've called 15 on us and five on them? Like, do you realize it's kind of gone that way? And if you're sitting there going, one team's undisciplined, man, get out of town, okay? You know, that kind of disparity, you're leaning one way and you need to even it out as the refs. So they didn't against Texas with Georgia.

But I thought the playoffs worked out perfectly. I thought SMU belonged in and Alabama belonged out. You can't lose three games in the regular season versus one team that loses one. SMU belonged in. Bama belonged out. Miami belonged out. Before you give me your response to that,

on this podcast this morning, this Longhorn podcast, they said, do you think you'd want to change the playoff system? And I said, not because something unjust happened this year. but I think going to 16 is the right thing to do to take away the buys. I don't think you'd have a first round buy for four teams. And I think in the era of parity, where I truly do believe Alabama could go on a four-game winning streak and win the national championship. I do believe South Carolina could do that. That 16 teams in the era of parity just makes for a really fun tournament.

That's all I think I would do. What do you guys say? Go, Pat. I think this is the worst possible outcome, not because it wasn't deserved, not because it wasn't deserved. I saw that coming. Okay, but because we need to get to the end. Like, we're in the middle where the sport has not changed to what it needs to be. Like, this is not where we want it to be.

Like, we're going from like, you are a suicide bomber. You are a suicide bomber that wants to destroy the entire world. You are the Joker. You are the Joker. You want the United States government. and the college football playoff system to burn. And you have no plans for what comes after. But just like Alfred said, some men just want to see the world burn.

That is you, tinfoil pat. I have plans. I think we need to go to like the top 40, top 50. That's what Nate Saban was saying. March Mademps. The top teams need to have their own thing. And we need to do it now. Because otherwise, it's just putting a Band-Aid over a problem that is a problem.

Like, this is a problem. Like, this is not a good system. You are literally a villain. You are a comic book villain. I say you just want to see the world burn. and your response is, oh, I have plans. You are literally a board somewhere with like red twine intersecting things. All right.

All right. Okay, that's the college football talk for today. You don't want to go anywhere. Here we go. Cody Sanchez is an influencer on Instagram and TikTok. She has a new book out called Main Street Millionaire. I legitimately follow her. I really enjoy her content.

On Friday, she came into the studios in New York, and I sat down with Cody. I hope you enjoy this conversation. with Cody Sanchez. All right, I'm with Cody Sanchez, the author of a brand new book, Main Street Millionaire. Now, Cody is familiar to me. I don't know if she's unfamiliar to you, but you have hit my algorithm and you've probably hit everyone listening's algorithm.

If not on IG, then on YouTube. And the way that you hit my attention, Cody, is by talking about stuff like this. You were talking about small businesses, business advice, not sort of hitting the esoteric home run of creating the next big app. but buying the laundromat, starting the brick and mortar business. Yeah, well, the idea kind of came from just being in private equity for a long time, you know, which we thought was super fancy when you think about private equity or Wall Street. I think you think here, you know, New York, big huge skyscrapers.

But actually, what do people do in private equity? They buy really old, longstanding, stable businesses that cash flow. And at some point, after like working for a boss I didn't like for a long time, I realized, wait a second, why couldn't I? do the same thing that they do, but at the smaller level, like an everyday human level. And so I started looking for businesses that didn't take a rocket scientist to run. One of them was a laundromat. And then I found out about things like the SBA and how you can get third-party loans to buy

businesses. And so it started like for me personally. And then I started seeing this like weird creep. I mean, we call it kind of the corporate mist of these big companies coming in and buying everything. And the rest of us either have to buy from them or work for them. And that's when I was like, you know, we probably. We shouldn't get rich quietly.

We should try to get rich together. We should tell more people about how to buy these Main Street businesses, otherwise they go away. There's two sides to what I hear you talking about that appealed to me. One is sort of the self-interest of what you get out of being involved in these small brick-and-mortar businesses. But the other is what you give back. I actually want to start with what you give back because I'm from a small town, 30,000 people, one hour north of Dallas. People have written books about this for like a decade, the small town brain drain. that so much of the talent from towns across America, from Nebraska to Texas, wherever it may be, move off to the big city.

And what you're talking about is not just building something that gives back to you, potentially, financially, which I want to get into, but helps rebuild Main Street, helps rebuild these communities in these small towns. Yeah, well, I think we're waking up to the point that it's not that fun working in a cubicle for eight hours a day, skipping the sun all day. It's bizarre, actually, when you think about it, like where else are their padded walls except a cyclone? like why did we decide that this would be the life that we wanted to live and that this would make us happy vitamin D deficient clacking away on keyboards you know sort of neck scrunching back hurting in roly chairs with a bunch of people that we don't actually want to hang out with and bosses that we don't want to look like eventually and so you know when you feel that I actually heard Tucker Carlson say truth is like a tuning fork when you hear it you feel it and I remember the

first time I started feeling that myself, I was working at Goldman and thinking, like, I hate this. You know, I hate what I'm doing in this moment. And so, yeah, there is that self-interest of going and doing the next thing. But I think there's also this rising realization that we were sold a bit of a lie, that us going to work for a corporate person for our whole lives, maybe is not as intriguing as we thought. So I think there's an opportunity for the first time ever for youth to stay in their hometowns. We did a study actually, studies a loose term. We pulled about 30,000 people across Instagram and our X account and saw how many people had become successful, and what I mean by successful, it's like a millionaire, right, without counting your house, successful that had never

left their hometown even for college. And we found one person. Really? Yeah. And increasingly we're seeing, you know, more young people living away from their families, moving away from their towns. And I think there's a chance now where the best jobs actually aren't in big corporate centers like New York anymore. The best jobs might be you taking ownership in a 65-year-old retiring boomers business and bringing technology and a little bit of hustle to an old school business, like your local landscaping company or a roofing company. And so that's my belief that if we don't do this, one, we won't be happy individually. We'll be stuck in cubicles, working for somebody else, and eventually we'll realize that doesn't make us happy. And then two, our main streets will be owned by huge corporations or they'll be empty. And we only have to look to Japan to see that that is not a future we want.

So I love the outcome of this for the community. I can picture all these talented individuals helping rebuild businesses, which eventually rebuilds a town. And now you have all these leaders in these towns who are invested in the community. But at first, we have to sell the individual on staying in that town. So explain to me, let's take an example. Give me, it can be a theoretical example, but put some flesh on it of how someone, a young person, could stay in their own hometown community and become a millionaire. Yeah. Let's use an example, a guy by the name of Clint, actually.

He is also in Texas. I can't remember the name of the town, but a town that's so tiny that he doesn't have an airport for a couple, for a couple hours from him. He now has his own plane that he flies in when he comes to see me in Austin or Dallas. Not a huge plane, but like a nice plane, you know? And Clint is a business broker and bought into a local gardening business in his small town. This gardening business does like landscaping planting, right? And because of this, in this scenario, how big is this gardening landscaping businesses that he buys into? Now it's big.

I don't want to, doing millions of dollars a year, maybe getting up to eight figures. Okay. But definitely millions. Now. Now. Yeah. And you know, what's interesting about Clint is he loves his couple kids. You know, if you were to see his backyard, there's probably more dear than people than you're going to see around there. And a really smart guy. But he has decided that he wants to stay in the local community, but still make a bunch of money. And then if he wants to leave, he can fly in and fly out. But sometimes it's also underrated, I think, to be really important and needed in a town when I think so many people come to a big city like New York and you're a number. You get lost. Right. And so for somebody to feel like they know you, you know, they want to do you a favor because they're going to see you again next week. I think that's what humans actually need. So I want to ask you another couple questions about Clint. But first, here's a parenthetical, but there's, it fits in. You have this part of your book, which I really find fascinating. You talk about, we need to talk about money again. Let's do it.

You said like one in four people didn't grow up talking about money or do. What is it? Like people are embarrassed to talk about money. Yeah. Most of us do not talk about money. That's not how I grew up. You talked about money? Yeah, absolutely. Like who? Your mom or dad? Yeah.

Do they talk about making it or saving it? I knew what my dad made. I knew when he had a big year. My dad was an attorney and he talked. But I actually really appreciate it in retrospect because I wasn't ignorant about money. Like, what is a lot of money? What's not a lot of money? What's a good year?

What's a bad year? My wife, on the other hand, her family was very traditional and conservative about money. They didn't talk about it. And I think that leaves a lot of people in the dark. you know, like I know it's uncouth or impolite to talk about money, but I think it leads to a lot of ignorance. Oh, I think you're right. You know, I kind of go back to, I remember I was talking to one of my friends who was schooling me on something. You know how we all grew up and we said money is the root of all people? Like, I don't know how we got programmed that, but we all sort of know it.

And then if you go back and look in the Bible, it's actually the love of money or the desire for money, depending on the translation, is the root of all evil. So it's not the money. that is the issue. It is, is that all you want? Is that the thing that is the driving force for you? Then that is evil. But I think we were sold sort of this bag of goods about money for a myriad of reasons, but because we're a lot easier to control and we don't have it. You know, the ultimate form of freedom is financial freedom because it allows you to push your will onto the world as opposed to be pushed upon. And I knew that firsthand because I spent a lot of time along the U.S.-Mexico border. And I saw what happened to young women with a last name like Sanchez.

who were brutalized and murdered along the U.S.-Mexico border, and nobody cared, Will. I mean, I'm talking 2,000 people a year died in Juarez last year, the town that I was in, were murdered, excuse me, didn't die. 2,000 were murdered. And why? It wasn't that they were Mexican and I was American. It was really that they didn't have socioeconomic power.

They were poor, and so nobody really cared. They had no recourse. So I think we have to talk about money, and it's really good that your dad did that, because I think we think it's unsophisticated or it's scammie or it's low brow. Right. And it's not. It's putting the hand down as opposed to, you know, kind of saying we're above it.

Yeah. And so in that spirit, I think going back to Clint in the landscaping business, one of the problems for attracting people to stay back in their hometown or invest in Main Street and businesses is that while it might be good for the community, they have to be sold on how it's good for them in. individually. I asked you about the size of the landscaping business. Because when you're in a small town, what you worry about is scale. Like, okay, I can buy into this business and I can perhaps improve it with technology and hustle, but how big can I actually make it in the small community? Can I actually become a millionaire doing this, whatever it may be, plumbing, roofing, in this small town community? Do I have scale? Yeah. Well, I think that part that's, there's two sides to the equation of making millions, right, or becoming a millionaire. One is reviving.

a new or profit or making money. The other side is expense and spend, right? And so I have another one of our group and a friend of mine whose name is Nick and he lives in Georgia. And Nick is a great example. He went to, God, he went to, he either went to Yale or he went to, he went to Cornell. And that's a very nice school. And instead of going to consulting or, you know, Goldman Sachs afterwards like I did, he actually started a self-storage company. And the self-storage was basically him and some friends grabbing a bunch of people's stuff during the summer and putting it in a storage unit that they sublet it out, right? That self-storage business ended up leading him to buy a small self-storage property. But obviously he couldn't do that by Cornell. The property was really

expensive. He had to go back to his hometown. Well, here's the good part about it. I think his first property was like 100 or 200K. And yet, his first house that he bought there was like 200K, and it's a beautiful house with his kids. So the guy now also does really well, but it's because it's so much cheaper to start there, and you can become an owner. And I think what we have to stop thinking about is like, you know, not to get super technical, but it's not just about how much you make. It's how much you keep. One, from the government, and two, when you don't have to spend a ton. So when you are in an owner category, like you own a small business, your write-off potential is almost limitless for what you can write off in the business. When you are an employee,

I mean, you know this all too well. You could make tons at Fox, but if you're domiciles in New York and if you are a W-2 employee, you have basically no write-off ability. Right. And so a million dollars very quickly becomes 500K. Whereas if you're an owner and you make 500K in your business, but you have write-offs, you might actually keep more than somebody who makes a million bucks in New York. So we got to reframe how we think about becoming a millionaire, I think, too.

When you went down this path, I know you talked about you were in private equity, Goldman, you saw these opportunities. Which, by the way, we should note, like, private equity is investing in these exact type of businesses today. They are buying veterinarian offices. They are buying plumbers. I have a brother in construction, so I know they're beginning to play in all types of manufacturing. It's like what you're telling us is something that we should have known about and might have a little bit. I mean, there was a famous book called Rich Dad, Poor Dad, that talked a lot about this specifically about laundromats.

But also that we can see happening in the economy right now. It's a reinvestment in real business. Yeah, that's right. I mean, if you look at investment options, right, all the way from stocks to bonds to hedge funds, what we know over any 10-year period of time, on average, private equity outperforms, 15% on average versus, let's say, 10 in the stock market, two or three with bonds. Okay, if that's the case, then we want to see what the guys are doing who make the most money consistently over time.

And, oh, by the way, they are also more prevalent on the Forbes 100 list than any other asset class save people handing down money in their family like the Walton's. And so when I saw that, I was like, wait a second. If all these guys are doing is what do they basically do? They buy these boring businesses that exist for a long time, that cash flow. They use other people's money to do it, which they use the word leveraged buyout, right? LBO. They go raise a bunch of money from friends or they go get a bunch of money from banks. And then they buy this business and they cash flow off of it. And that turns itself into their paycheck. Well, what they've sort of done that's fascinating to me is they've made it seem like that is normal and okay for

institutions, but for people to do it individually, it's not. And so I'm pushing back on that, which is why I get into it a lot with private equity guys. I don't have any problem with them. I think they're some of the smartest people have ever met, and they serve a purpose in the world. But they owned, private equity companies owned 4% of U.S. companies in 2000. In 2020, 20% of companies. If you work in a company right now in the U.S., you have a one in seven chance to be working for a private equity-owned company right now. I do not think it is good when we have such centralization of ownership in the U.S. And they're going into these intimate small-town community businesses as we speak. So I worry about all these, whatever they are, landscaping businesses or

veterinarian offices that are no longer owned local, but they're being rolled up in some massive national private equity buyout of whatever you're given industry. Yeah, and you know what it does? As touch you feel as it sounds, it takes the soul right out of the company. I mean, we all know. My team jokes about it a lot, but at our companies, you're allowed to go, and if you want to buy coffees or food or whatever while you're working, you're allowed to do that as long as it's for a small business.

You're not allowed to go to Starbucks. And the reason is because the last time you went to Starbucks, what did you get? I mean, probably the best Starbucks are in, like, New York, because, you know, just volume. But when you go to a Starbucks and almost any other town, it's like, it's dirty, it's definitely not the third place anymore. They don't write your name correctly on the thing. They barely wish you were there, right?

There's no communicating with them. The owner of the company has never been in that building, and it feels the same anywhere you go. There is no soul. And so, to me, why we like, you know, special Main Street communities is because they were localized. And now we're kind of like slowly pulling the soul out of, out of, out of, you know, communities. But for the first time ever, I think we have a way to push back, which is that we can

have more of a soul, and we can also keep more money in our local economies by buying these businesses. Shop local didn't work because Amazon's so easy and amazing. Like, of course, I'm going to use that instead of shop local. But experience local, experience a local coffee shop versus a Starbucks. Yeah, that might work. And so I think that this is our opportunity with these small businesses. So I would ask my two sons to read this when the time is right. One's 16, one's 13. But they're getting there because they're going to start thinking about what they is what they want to do. And I guess as a father, I want them to do real things. And it's hard because of what I do for a living. And what I do for a living often, it looks like, hey, go become

famous or a star. That's not what I'm, I think everybody kind of now has this idea. That's a great career. That's not what I want for my sons. I would love to look up one day and you own a very successful drywall business. I would be really excited about that because it's real. You can see your thumbprint on something. But I also like that you talk about specifics. I know there's some that you like and some that you don't like as far as when it comes to businesses that make you a mainstream millionaire. Yeah. Let's talk about some businesses I hate and people can yell at us on the internet for that. So a couple of businesses that I think are masquerading as a business, but really something else. My least favorite business, hotels. Super hard. Do you know most

hotels make negative margin? So the only way they actually make money is through tax benefits. So hotels are like a 24-7 problem that are really hard to run over time. So it's amazing that people run them. Thank God. People do it. I love staying in them. But for a first-time entrepreneur, don't do a hotel. It's a super hard business. Second, restaurants. Everybody thinks that they should open a restaurant if they like to cook. Let me tell you what, go eat there and don't profit off of it. And if you don't believe me, like read Anthony Bourdain's book, too. He's like, all I have seen is a graveyard of enthusiasts in the restaurant space.

You have to be a sort of crazy obsessed savant, I think, to long-term succeed in restaurants. It's really hard. Now, if you are obsessed with just about any business, you could probably win, but restaurants have really small margins, and they're complex. So I don't play that game. And then the third business that I don't love, and then I think. think a lot of people think about these days, I'll just encapsulate them overall in like fast internet businesses. So I don't love Amazon drop shipping. You have no moat. I don't love e-commerce flipping. You don't have ability to have a real product and brand to talk to people about.

So those are three businesses that I'm like, maybe not for your first go. By the way, you just described the moat. I know what you mean by the moat. No protection against competition. This was one of the reasons. When I first got into this, Cody, I don't know why I'm sharing with you my story. I want to know. No, I bought small tail newspapers in Texas. I read the biography of Warren Buffett, who I think is probably at least intellectually in the spirit of something you would appreciate, Cody Sanchez, a mainstream millionaire, value businesses, and he used to invest in newspapers. And one of the reasons he invested in newspapers is that they have a moat. By the time we'd arrived there in the early 2000s, it was already declining businesses, circulation decline, but you're pretty much down to a one newspaper town. You know, there was a time when it was to New York still is a multiple newspaper.

but you had one newspaper with 100 years of brand equity built up and so it had a moat for our customers now we didn't see this coming along we did we did see it coming along and that's why I went to small town weekly newspapers which were the last adopters of giving up newspapers but that was my main street main street start to end it up where we are yeah well you know it's interesting because they still kind of exist in a different way like some of the businesses we buy are online businesses I don't like to talk about those as much because I think other people talk about buying and selling online businesses, so it's more normalized. But for young people that are like, huh, I'm not sure where I want to stay forever. Can I do a little tiny acquisition? We've done a couple examples of acquisitions of

newsletters. I sold one called Grow Getters, which was like, I think we sold it for like $8,000, like very reasonable for somebody. And it was a little newsletter that was a marketing newsletter that you could teach people how to market. And so I think your daily newspapers went to weekly newspapers, went to substack newsletters and have a beehive. And so, yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens in the future, though. I think we invested in one Canadian series of small town newspapers that's actually doing pretty well. Bowie, this is a terrible business that we're in.

No, that we're in. Media, right. Yeah. I think the only thing we've ever learned over the last 20 years is how to destroy legacy media that had moats, but not really how to build new things in its place. Now, I should say, this is for. fine for people like yourself to build your own business. What's hard to imagine is any type of new scale. You see what I'm getting at? Like we've torn down, everything that's tried to rise

up to replace media, whether it was BuzzFeed or vice or anything, they collapsed under their own weight of hype. They just did. Now you brought a sub-tech. Matt Taibi's in of the world and Tucker Carlson are doing well on their own, but not a lot of networks built out beyond the individual success. Can I run an idea by you? You can tell what you think. All right. So my thought is that media doesn't work in today's day and age because it has perverse incentives. It's an ad-based business that has as its consumer theoretically, the reader, but because we read it for free, for the most part, the real consumer or client is the advertiser. And so the advertiser and the consumer are at odds, almost always, because advertiser would like more pushing for conversion,

consumers, like, stop bothering me to buy stuff. And then, you know, if you have to, in any way, you know, influence the news because you have an advertiser that doesn't want a news thing out, then you immediately lose trust. That's problematic. So I think there's, like, a business model issue there. I have thoughts on that. Okay. Curious. So now I think that there actually might be some 21st century media companies that change this. An example might be, and not almost anything to do with their politics, but like a daily wire. So as I see, Daily Wire launch companies that the companies are the revenue driver for the overall media business like their chocolates, their razors, their, I don't know what else they've launched.

And the media property becomes the marketing mechanism for everything else. Exactly. Then you don't have perverse incentives because you actually have alignment between your user base and your news. And you don't have third party influence that are coming in and trying to influence you. So I'm curious to see what happens. So I think, I think scale is always the hard part. So what I mean by that is this. So you're exactly right about the relationship with advertising and the listener, the viewer. And I would add a compounding problematic part of that is that the idea is for you on your YouTube or your Instagram or my YouTube or whatever, we want as many people watching as possible. So that makes us chase. The incentive therefore

is for us to chase the lowest common denominator. Ultimately, that's where you get, right? I want more numbers, more numbers, more numbers. So what do you do? You lean into what works, what works. And by the way, here's an advertiser that wants more numbers, more numbers, more numbers, making you... Now, we're in a new age where you have done a lot of amazing content. Joe Rogan does amazing content on and on. And you get rewarded at some level.

But I think for real quality content of some kind, it has to move to a subscription model. Yeah. I do. And it's hard because there's so much information that it's hard to get a consumer to pay. But like, I don't know. I have four or five substacks that I send $5 a month to. and I think if this is a value to people at some level they begin to pay it has to move in that direction and then there is a model for advertising to fit into that on the on a more like a 30% part of the proposition

yeah so I know that I have an advertiser coming in I know and I'm excited about this and we'll talk about it in the coming weeks because I legitimately wear their products yeah that's a huge difference it's like I will use this product when I tell the science about it I will be able to say this is something that I and that should be a very expensive relationship for that advertiser because I really have this connection and I mean it to facilitate it but it can't be the basis of my relationship with everybody watching no you know what I mean totally but I think you know what I'd be curious your thought here too but if I was you what I'd be trying to do is get a little distributing equity too like for any advertiser that you bring on now you can't do it all the time

because you got you can't eat equity you know you got to have cash flow that comes in consistently but like when I'm when you're a knowledge worker let's say and you're good what are you actually your sales right yes your content you're marketing your strategy but also you are you're the pay per click right for this advertiser because you have a bunch of listeners well if that's the case then we know that like if a venture capital dollar goes out to a to a business a startup 40 cents of that venture capital dollar goes to Facebook Amazon Apple right that goes to ads so that means 40% of it could instead go to somebody like you. And of every dollar

that you bring in for them, you could ask for some portion of equity in the business. And then on a future basis, you continue to get an anuitized on your revenue stream to them. You're super aligned because you're actually an owner in a business. And it's not that dissimilar from what Joe Rogan's done with some of his stuff. He's like, sure,

I'll talk about on it, but I'm going to own part of the company that I talk about. And I'm only going to talk about five or seven companies. And you know that I'm not out there going, you know, gummy hair care products and AG1 and whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, because you had to do some due diligence on the individual companies. Well, I'll take you down to the second floor when we're done here and see if you can tell my boss is about me taking equity in.

Yes. Perfect. I'm in. Yeah. No, I've been really excited to meet you. As I said, like, you're one of these mysterious people for me that hits my stream when you don't know how, but then I'm like, I really like, I really like, I really like, I really like. Yeah. No, you're really good. You're like, I don't want to call you a modern day Warren Buffett, but you're talking about real value, real Main Street businesses and how people can get rich and also give back to their communities, which is singing my tune. So I was really excited to meet you. And we're both Texans. I love that. You're Texan now? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Little Arizona and little Texan, very similar, actually. Yeah, I can see that. I can see that. So thank you, Cody. This has been great. I hope we can stay in touch. Absolutely. Thanks for having me. All right, Main Street Millionaire. Again, my thanks to Cody Sanchez, check out Main Street Millionaire.

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