Will Cain Country - Total Disaster!: Trump Torches Democrats On Crime (ft. Jeffery Mead & RJ Young)

Episode Date: August 25, 2025

Story #1: Will picks up 'Off the Weekend' as President Donald Trump’s decision to extend the National Guard strategy from D.C. into cities like Chicago and L.A. prompts accusations of “tyranny” from Democratic mayors. Plus, Snoop Dogg suddenly finds himself questioning woke kids’ movies after years of playing the victimhood game and Southwest Airlines changes its seating rules for oversized passengers. Story #2: Social and Political Commentator Jeffery Mead joins Will for a wide-ranging conversation about race, culture, and politics. The two react to a racist sign targeting Virginia Lt. Gov. Winsome Earle-Sears (R-VA), the hypocrisies of virtue signaling, and even New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani's (D-NY) awkward attempt at the bench press. Story #3: Fox Sports' National College Football Analyst RJ Young returns to break down his Ultimate 136 rankings and preview the upcoming College Football season. RJ explains why he’s higher than most on Oklahoma under Brent Venables, how the SEC could send four teams to the playoff, and whether the Big Ten has the depth to match. From Clemson’s stacked defense to Oregon’s “pillowy soft” schedule, RJ lays out which programs can realistically compete for a national title. Subscribe to 'Will Cain Country' on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country! Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, troops in Chicago, troops in L.A. After the success in Washington, D.C., should we be excited or concerned about the federal government marching through the streets of America? And President Donald Trump looks to make it a crime to burn the American. flag. Two, my old friend Snoop Dog once called me a devil, but now seems to be falling on my side of the issues. Let's hear from Snoop. Three, was it something I said? The terms being sworn off by Democrats. It is Will Cain Country streaming live at the Will Cain Country YouTube channel. The Fox News Facebook page, always available by subscribing at Apple or on Spotify.

Two days, Dan, tinfoil Pat, the crew here in Dallas. Love is blind. Seinfeld. Curb your enthusiasm. I love the messy interaction of humanity. love the experiment of being a man. I have a couple questions for you that occurred to me on this Monday. I was listening to local radio talking about the fact that when you have a flight, if you're on one of those days, perhaps returning from a vacation, and you have a late flight

in the day. And there's no real rush and you can get to the airport whenever you like. And at some point you just acquiesce and say, I'm going to go ahead and go to the airport. There's nothing left to do here. I'll get there a little bit early. Why is it when it's in that situation? There is absolutely no security line. There's no traffic to the airport. You fly through TSA and you find yourself wandering the terminal board for a good hour and a half two hours. But if you're running late, if you have 45 minutes to make your flight, the security line snakes around the corner. They were debating that on local talk radio. And I thought to myself, that's true. Why is that? And there might be a good explanation. The explanation is, well, flights are scheduled at certain intervals and people all show up at the same time. If you kind of go a little early and it's not during one of these periods when other people are scheduled, you don't have the same human rush at the airport. But the one I can't find an explanation for is one that's played out over my entire half a century on this earth. How is it when you go to a restaurant you are so attended to? There are people bringing you water.

asking for your drink order. They're ready to bring you appetizers and take your entree order. You see a server probably once every five minutes, seven minutes at tops. You're going to see that server readily. But when the meal is over, and it's over,

the conversation is over. This experience is over. And it's time to go home. Man, you cannot find the server for the check. I feel like I cannot be, the only one experiencing this in life. This has got to be something everybody's wondering.

They disappear at the end of the meal. Do they consider that their job is done here, and they don't have to attend that table anymore? And you could sit there going, where is our waitress? I could use the check right about now. And that's when you find yourself flagging someone down, raising your finger, waving,

we're ready for a check. And you make the little check sign in the air, which I've been told is an inappropriate thing to do. But it's over. And by the way, I'll imagine the owner's ready to turn the tape. Isn't that when they should be incentivized to get you out, get a new patron in at the table? But am I wrong, two a days? Am I wrong, tinfoil?

The longest period of time, one of the longest periods of time in life is the period when the meal is over from that moment until you get the check. Am I wrong? No, you're absolutely right. And I think it might be by design because maybe they don't want you to leave and buy more stuff. So, think about this. Think about this. If you ask for your check and they don't bring it, maybe you're like, well, you know what?

Maybe I will get dessert. Maybe I will get coffee. So you have more time to think about it. No? I don't think so. I think we've found a glitch in the matrix. I don't think it can be by design because I don't think it ever, I mean, I've never said, you know what?

We've been sitting here so long. Let's just go ahead and order dessert. And I think they make more money by turning the table and getting the new people in to go ahead and order some drinks. and some entrees. I don't think this can be designed. This has to be a glitch. What is happening at the table? Go ahead, 1040.

The glitch is that you need to be more zen. You need to chill out a little bit, okay? Same thing happens with traffic lights. Chill out a little bit. Whoa. You're like getting caught in the red lights instead of the green lights. You know, same thing. You just got to center yourself, you know?

I've thought this could be the case. I thought, is it my brain? brain is is speeding up time and I have only been waiting for like five minutes and I can't find the server or or is it my brain feels like that five minutes is 20 I've thought about this but I just asked am I wrong am I alone is it all of our brains are we all not zen ed is nodding along in the control room you're telling me I'm right we're all experiencing this glitch in the matrix bring me my check it's time to go home this experience is over. We're just getting started here today, though, on Will Kane country.

President Donald Trump is speaking. He has just announced that he is going to look for a one-year prison term for anyone that burns the American flag. As a constitutionalist and a lover of free speech, I think it forces us into some very interesting questions. But I think it ties into the other big story of the weekend is, do you want to see federal troops in Chicago? suppressing crime. Let's get into it all with Off the Weekend. Story number one. In Washington, D.C., after the deployment of the National Guard,

over the past 9, 10 days, there have been exactly zero murders in Washington, D.C. Crime is down, but that stat will take you back decades. The last time you've gone 10 days without a murder in Washington, D.C., you're going to be rewinding the clock decades. This has not set well with politicians on the left. This does not sit well with Democrats. Here is the governor of Maryland, Democrat, Westmore. Every single major American city, particularly when many of the cities that have the highest crime rates are the places that have actually deployed their National Guards to Washington, D.C. So who's going to go to the work in their cities? The third, it's unconstitutional. It's a direct violation of the 10th

Amendment. And for a party that talks about state rights, it's amazing how they're having such a big government approach in the way they're conducting public safety. Interesting argument from Westmore. If you pull the National Guard out of the state from which they are situated and deploy them to Washington, D.C., what does that do for the potential for crime fighting in their home state? Are you suggesting, Governor Moore, that the National Guard should be deployed in Chicago? That it should be deployed in Los Angeles? No, I don't think so. He says it is unconstitutional. That is nothing. compared to the mayor of Chicago, who says,

Brandon Johnson, Democrat, this is tyranny. The president has spent hundreds of millions of dollars to, what, arrest nine people in D.C. You know, that is, that clearly he's demonstrated that he doesn't have a level of consciousness to understand what it takes to run cities, not to mention an entire country. And so, you know, look, we're going to remain firm, we'll take legal action. but the people in this city are accustomed to rising up against tyranny. Is that a call for insurrection? The people of this city, Chicago, are used to rising up against tyranny.

Brandon Johnson, like Wes Moore, seems to make a self-defeating argument in the span of two sentences. He says that President Donald Trump doesn't know what it's like to run a city, much less a country, and then calls running a country tyranny. Chicago, of course, is an experiment in failed governance. Chicago, like Los Angeles, has horrible, horrible city leadership. That's why Chicago is the murder capital of the United States when it comes to big urban centers. That's why Chicago is one of the most failed experiments in America. It's because of the incompetence of elected leaders like Brandon Johnson.

But is this tyranny? More on the nose to the governor of Maryland-Westmore. Is this unconstitutional? That's the same question many are asking today, even those on the right, about President Trump's just announced ban on burning the American flag. Is that a violation of free speech? Is that unconstitutional? And at this point, we are hearing this not just from the left, but we are hearing this

from the right. I will admit to you, I have grave concerns about outlawing the burning of the American flag. that's not because I would endorse the burning of the American flag, but I find more important than the symbol itself, the principle of free speech. That being said, President Donald Trump, I think, is driven by two motivations. Number one, do something, get something done, productivity, improvement, the hallmarks and the characteristics of leadership. On the left, you get talk. Actually, you get more than talk. You get degradation. You have to

politicians like Zoran Mamdani, who is a Democratic socialist. He is a communist, but officially labels himself a Democratic socialist. The Democrat socialist platform in New York City would basically decriminalize misdemeanors, put people on the streets, defund the police. This is a rewinding of the clock to 2020. Look at the platform underneath Zoran Mamdani and ask yourself about the future of New York City. It will be left to this viral video that is making its way around the Internet this weekend. on the subway, a man standing there, a knife, a long blade by his side, threatening a skateboarder, another man holding a longboard, skateboard little longer dimensions.

With every threatening step and every threatening lunge, the skateboarder seems to suggest, verbally, I'm going to fight back. One last threatening step, and the skateboarder uses his longboard and absolutely spears the perp in the face, at which point he falls down and onto the tracks. Police quickly come and intervene. It's going to be left to vigilante justice. It'll be 1970s, New York. But President Donald Trump's guiding light is to do something.

The crime rate in D.C. is better. If he does something in Chicago, is there any doubt the crime rate will be better? Carjackings, by the way, are a massive problem in Chicago. Do you have any doubt that that will be improved? Reportedly, with all of these stops and all these arrests, the other thing that's being done in D.C. is a round-up of illegal immigrants. We're talking about the enforcement of the law.

We're talking about doing something. But the other guiding lie is he's putting people on the wrong side of 80-20 political issues. I mentioned that the outrage on both of these, both of these issues to do something about crime and burning the American flag is coming from the left, but it's also coming from the right, in some cases, principled opposition on the right. But the right has often been guided by the idea of conservatism, limited government, the Constitution, William F. Buckley, National Review. It is at times necessary to stand a thwart history yelling stop. But what if yelling stop doesn't make anyone stop? What are you conserving with conservatism?

Look at the last 50 years. Look at the last 10 years. Look at the last five years and ask yourself about the decline of America. And at some point, you have to wonder if offense doesn't become the best defense. What will happen will be crime will improve in Chicago. Crime is improved in D.C. And that will be popular. There will be heady arguments about the Constitution.

but it will be popular. I'm a big believer in little laboratories of democracy, federalism in the Constitution. And if the people of Chicago hate this, then let them kick them out. If the people of Chicago that want to live a civilized life hate that, let them vote with their feet. And that's what's happening. People from California are moving to Texas. People from New York are moving to Florida. Record numbers.

But what about the poor people that can't move? Well, then they're left behind. Donald Trump's policies will be popular with those who are the poorest, those who are the victims of these crimes, minorities, black people will find a better quality of life with the do-something approach of Donald Trump. And on the burning of the American flag, I can tell you right now, I will guarantee you that within a couple of days, regardless of the implementation of this law, if lefties are burning the American flag from coast to coast, they just found themselves checkmated into not an 80-20 proposition, but a 595 proposition.

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Number two, off the weekend, Snoop Dog says it's finally hitting home. He took his grandchild to see Lightyear, the Buzz Lightyear movie. And here's what he had to say about his experience. So we're watching it, and the lady, which is Kiki's mama, they move on and she's space years, they moved down the line. They're like, then she had a baby with a woman. Well, my grandson in the middle of the movie, like, Papa Snoop, how does she have a baby with a

woman? She's a woman. Oh, shit. I didn't come in for this I just came to watch the goddamn movie. Hey man, watch the movie. Uh-uh. They just said she and she had a baby. They both women's. How did she have a baby? Shh. The movie ain't over with. It's like, it's, I'm scared to go to the movies, man. Like, y'all throwing me in the middle of shit that I don't have an answer for.

Ah, Snoop, but it was all coming, man. I'm sorry it's hit you in the face, but you help this out-of-control issue start spinning. It was just a couple of years ago, Snoop, if we can walk down memory lane together. When I was on first take, talking about getting rid of the name Washington Redskins and why it wasn't popular among Indians. And then you said this on social media. This need to be off the fucking air. You are a creep, man.

Fuck you, fucking weird on. Stephen, hey, get rid of this motherfucker right here. Fucking devil. That's me, the devil. For suggesting we should get rid, or we should rather keep the name Washington Redskins, now an issue that Donald Trump is pushing forward. It looks like Snoop and I should revisit our conversation.

Because what I would tell Snoop is, hey, man, I know slippery slope and maybe discernment and judgment step in the way of society slowly or quickly sliding to hell in a handbasket. But when you play the game of Victimhood Olympics, when you play the game of the ultimate ace of spades in every deck as who is the oppressed, it's going to end up back at the movies with you explaining to your grandchild how two women can have a baby. this is how it works man best to just go ahead and look at each issue with your thinking cap on and use some common sense otherwise you wake up in the dark a big screen in front of you two women having a baby watching light year finally southwest number three has changed its seating policy for the last couple of years southwest airlines has made it so overweight passengers do one of two things. They could buy two seats and then ultimately apply for a refund on the second seat they spill over into, or they can show up to the airport and request for free a second seat. Everyone has experienced this if you've flown. Southwest apparently is the airline of choice for the obese because they get these seat privileges, but no more. Now Southwest is saying you won't get the refund. You buy the second seat, you don't get the refund.

It's like real estate. You bought it. You have to buy it. Otherwise, stay on your property. Now, I will admit, as many people have suggested on behind the scenes at this show. Connor, apparently, is 6'3. Two of days is like 6'2. Tinfoil pad is a self-proclaimed 6-8.

I'm 6-2. It's tough. It's tough to fit. Not just width-wise, but lengthwise, into an airplane. seat. Knees hurting. But I do think I feel so bad for my six foot five, 17-year-old. Oh, that's brutal.

I don't buying that boy a first-class seat. That's brutal. I'm not buying it. He's coach until he buys his own tickets. I'll look over at him sometimes on the plane, man, and I am feeling for him. He looks like a box of pencils. It's stacked into, you know, a tiny little box. That's tough.

And the 14-year-old is six-foot-two, because he's on his way to future misery as well. But there's nothing you can do about how tall you are. There's got to be some ownership of your width. There's got to be some ownership of how much space you're taking up and see. And God forbid, do you ever feel sorry for someone more than the person that gets that middle seat next to someone who can't stay in their own seat? Like, you bought your seat. Why are you only getting two-thirds of your seat?

That's not cool, man. do you mind if we leave the armchair up? Yes, I do. I do mind. Can you please put the, that's like your gate, right? That's like the gate at your property line. Please stay. You put the gate down. This side of the gate is what I bought. You stay on your side of the gate. But I do feel bad for them too because they're very self-conscious. And yeah, I do feel bad for them. They're very self-conscious usually. They're usually embarrassed and I get it. I'm sorry. But it is what it is. Like if you you take up that much. space, you've got to pay for that much space. And that's the new policy of Southwest. Was it something I said? The left has suggested they should retire something like 40 words in terms we're going to talk about with TikTok superstar, absolute superstar. Jeffrey Meade, coming up on Wilcane Country.

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But it's not just one owner, is it, John? It seems to be industry-wide. It's a glitch in the Matrix. Why does it take so long to get your check? Wilcane Country at the Wilcane Country YouTube page. Fox News Facebook page. We're available always at Apple or on Spotify. Jeffrey Mead is a social and political commentator on X.

He's at V underscore Jeffrey Mead. He's huge on TikTok, millions of followers. His stuff pops up in my feed all the time as you comments on videos. social issues as well. And it's good to have you long for them. We had you on the television show, but it's good to have you here on Will Kane Country, Jeffrey. Yeah, I appreciate you having me on. Before we start talking about stuff, what's this been like? How's long have you been doing this and like what was the hockey stick on your explosion? Because I do feel like you have absolutely exploded, most notably on TikTok. So you remember, I started in 2023. So I think that was,

No, when was the whole George Floyd issue? Was everyone in 2023? No, that's 2020, right? 2020. Okay. No, I started in 2020. So do you remember when everyone was rating targets and like just looting and rioting all throughout targets, essentially?

Yes. So they were looting and rioting. I started posting consistently in 2023, and I essentially looked at it and I said, I'm tired of seeing this because I continuously see black Americans complain about you know, the system not working in their favor or not having opportunities, but then consistently doing things to destroy those opportunities that are in those areas. So I was like, I'm either going to do something about it or I'm just going to complain about it. So I started to do something about it. And I started making content in 2023. And probably by the end of that year, I was probably

800,000 somewhere on TikTok. So I would say that's kind of when I started blowing up. First year. Year number one, you start blown up 800,000. Now I think you're several million on TikTok. God. Why? What do you think you're saying and why is it resonating with people? And I would assume, by the way, because of the platforms where it is exploding, let's just say it's most likely younger people. Why is it working? I would say, surprisingly, a lot of my audience is actually 30 plus. I do have a decent amount of younger. But I think a lot of it's because I'm saying things that people know were true, but they're scared to say or they feel they'll be called racist if they say it. So a lot of uncomfortable truths I'm talking about unapologetically, and I think people appreciate that. Yeah, I think that's right. I also think you're really good at how you lay it out and your demeanor and how you speak. You're black, so you're pretty insulated from being called a racist.

I imagine that doesn't insulate you. And I asked you about this on television, though, of some other slurs that get thrown your way. When you have the opinions that you have, here comes Uncle Tom. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, after a while you get used to it at first, it kind of irritated me. But then after a while, you get used to it. And most people don't even know that Uncle Tom was actually a hero in the story.

That's a whole other topic. So, you know, you get used to that. And they do that because they really don't have anything to counter what you're saying. Right? Because, like, rather than engaging with me about the argument and proving me wrong, they just want to call me names or try to make fun of me. So at that point, I'm like, yeah, you're not worth my time or I know I'm winning, essentially. it is always a it's a tough one though i mean i don't know if it ever does bother you anymore but

it's like you're not real and you don't belong and it's kind of always easy to take an arrow from what feels like the other side of the battle lines it's tough to take a knife to the back and it feels i'm sure to some extent it feels like that when it's like hey you're not really black Yeah. I mean, because they essentially, what does it mean to be black in their definition? Does it mean to not speak proper? Does it mean to be articulate with what you're saying? Does it mean to actually know what you're talking about? Does it mean to be a Democrat? Because like when they say, you're not black, what are you saying? I speak differently from you. I think differently from you. So I have to speak the same issue. You have to think exact same as you don't have to vote the same way as you. And that's what makes me black. No. Right. So another thing, it's almost like, They don't know what they're doing in many cases. I think black Americans consistently vote against their own interest, but they're unaware of it because they're manipulated by race. I've said this a while back, and I would say it's almost like the majority of black Americans

are operating on outdated software. America's not a racist country anymore, right? But many of us still operate as if it is, and our software that's operating on our mind has not caught up to where reality really is today. right so we're still talking about outdated issues making things that aren't issues into issues and that time that we're spending focusing on that is actually holding us back from doing things that are more productive and getting us closer to where we say we want to be if that makes sense it does make sense and i think i think it's right i also think it's um really intoxicating

for a couple of reasons regardless of race or gender the human condition is a attracted to the idea of being a victim. Now, why would someone be attracted to being a victim? Because you know, it's not an honorable place to be. A lot of men are raised, don't be a victim. Regardless of the situation, don't be a victim. But it still isn't intoxicant. It's an allure because it absolves you, right, of your own responsibility for your conditions or place or choices in life. And everyone wants to basically have that moment from goodwill hunting where somebody hugs us and tells us it's not our fault. But it is incredibly intoxicating to be the victim. Compounded by the fact that I agree with you, America is not a racist country, but there are racist people. And so you will get

anecdotal validation for that if you walk through life. You don't have to be seeking it to experience it. But if you look for it, you certainly will experience it validating your victimhood. Sure. Absolutely. And I think many black Americans walk, and I've said this before, they walk through life with their racial glasses on. They view everything through a racial lens when in reality you don't have to view it that way. So like, you know, I do multiple things outside of content and I interact with a fair amount of white people. And I've done sales quite a bit and, you know, you don't close every sale, right? So then if you're primarily interacting with white people and you're viewing everything through a racial lens, one thing you might take away is, hey, I'm not closing these deals

because these white people are racist, right? But the reality is you might not be saying what you need to say or conveying the information that you need to convey to get them to feel comfortable buying what you're selling. So if you have that mentality of, hey, I'm going to continue to blame things on racism, you actually hold yourself back because you're not identifying where you're lacking in the mistakes that you're making

that are holding you back from hitting your goals. That's a great analogy. And you can apply that society-wide. That's an individual internalization of your focus, where am I focused, not on an improvement, but on victimization. And I think you're exactly right. It's an analogy for something that could be applied society-wide. And then I wanted to start with you on this story.

There is Lieutenant Governor of Virginia, Winsome Sears. She's black. She is a military veteran. She is running, I believe right now, for governor. And this sign, Jeffrey, was held up at a recent rally for her. And this person who is, by all accounts and looks, an elderly white woman. I say elderly because her hair is white. We can only see her from behind.

her sign says hey winsome if trans can't share your bathroom then blacks can't share my water fountain if you're watching on youtube or facebook you can see the sign that i'm describing i mean i'm pretty callous on the i'm geoffrey i'm pretty ready for and callous to the hypocrisies and the underlying racism of the left and these types of things and i can even wrap my mind around wordplay or trying to be key with an analogy, whoa, lady, whoa, with this side. Yeah, I mean, yeah. I mean, essentially it seems like she's trying to bring, you know, the Democratic Party back to their roots as kind of what I saw it when I thought about

it. But it's funny, what I find interesting about it is she said my water fountain, as if it's her water fountain, white people's water fountain. And she's just allowing us colored people to have access as long as we do what she wants. Right? So I just found that. And the fact that she held it up with American flags next to it, like, yeah, this is, I'm doing, like, did you really look at this and think this was okay? Like, you thought this was it. Like, you thought this was a good idea. Somebody didn't stop her at home.

No, they did. They did. That's your sign, Gladys? Right. Yeah, I'm, I'm going to roll with it. Okay. You know, I noticed the same thing. Like, as ugly as this is, I'm going to read it again. Hey, Winsome, if trans can't share, your bathroom, then blacks can't share my water fountain. For all the talk we have about pronouns and possessive, this is what stood out to me as well, my bathroom. It's her bathroom. Is it her white woman bathroom?

Or is it just Gladys's bathroom? Like, why is it your bathroom, lady? Yeah, yeah. But a lot of it's about, you know, emotional arguments and a lot of what they do and what they say is not operating in reality. And when you're blinded by TDS and you're super far on the left, you know, a lot of what you say, like I said, is not backed by logic or reason. It's for two things primarily. I would say emotion.

And I don't want to say putting on a display, but that's what I mean. What's a better way to say that? Yeah, putting on a show, putting on a display, putting on a production to show your virtue is a good way to put it, I would say. Yeah, that's what we've called virtue signaling. You're exactly right. And it's a race. It's a race. If there's a victim of Olympics, the only thing.

that's competitive with it is the virtue signaling Olympics. And the funny thing about the virtue signaling Olympics is, it truly is a competition. Like, there has to be a winner and a loser. I've lived on the Upper West Side of New York. I've lived amongst the natives. And let me tell you something. They are as judgmental to each other as they are to win some seers, meaning they've got to be more virtuous than their friend, their quote-unquote friend. And so a social situation is often about who's going to fall into the trap. Like, can you trap somebody? Like, it's constant semantics and word games and opinions. It's like, oh, oh, I got you there, didn't I?

I'm more virtuous. It's very tense. Yeah, yeah. And I don't, and I just think they've taken it so far that they're out of touch with the average American. And they talk about things people don't care about because they're competing amongst each other to say, look at me, who seems the most virtuous. Yes, yes, that's exactly right. Speaking of virtue, strength is not one for the mayoral candidate of New York City. Zoranamani over the weekend, he went to some kind of man fest.

Not what you think, okay? It wasn't a pride event. It was some type of, I don't know, validation of manhood. And he did a bench press. Two days you have the video, you can roll it. In this video, Mom Donnie, and I'm going to give him, I'm going to be charitable. I really am. Mom Donnie looks like he weighs buck 50, tops. Like he's not looking like a big dude in any way. Maybe he weighs less. He can weigh less than 150. I don't know. And he's benching. And he's got a guy with him kind of spotting him. looks like, and people are saying it's about 135 on the bench, and he's in business casual, business casual attire. He's got a dress shirt on. And the guy helps him off the rack with it. I think no harm, no foul. You should be able to push 135 off the rack. But he maintains a full spot and an ugly looking bench.

It doesn't go down very far. And he's getting crushed for this, Jeffrey. And, you know, I did ask myself, like, I don't know, I'm looking at you, Jeffrey, you look like you're in shape. And it's one rep. Oh, no, two reps. Two reps. You got two.

Two reps. Okay, it's two reps. And you know how in somebody spots you? Just because they're hands on it doesn't mean they're actually pulling up. So I am trying to be charitable. I don't know if that guy is pulling up on the 135, but you really probably shouldn't even need a spot on 135. No.

He shouldn't. And we, and it seemed like he was maybe trying to keep, you know, him from failing possibly. I want to see if he could actually do it. One thing I noticed if you looked at the end of his rep, I think it was his left leg was coming up. I mean, we've got to keep those feet down at least, right? So let's keep those feet down and let's see if he can actually hit 135. But we don't even know if it was 135. Those could have been 35s on there.

Like we really don't know. What we do know is it does not look like he could comfortably hit whatever that weight is. And in all honesty, it's not a lot of weight. you're again you're right and we should we should I don't we're not being charitable we're actually trying to be accurate they might not be 45 pound plates the the plates are hard now because you could get a 25 pound plate that shaped the same as a 45 you can't just look at a bar anymore and know what a guy's got on there I saw Carl Higby former Navy SEAL newsmax host take him on on social media and he had four plates on each side and I'm like

what is that he's got over 400 pounds but then I was like well I don't know if they're all 45s I don't know and I looked at this up Jeffrey Okay, what do you think a man should be able to bitch? How old is he, for one? Two, body, I mean, I think, especially at his age, you should be able to rep 135 at least once, at least once, without a spot, right? Do 50 pushups a day, do 25 pushups a day,

135 is not crazy weight. It's just showing that, you know, he doesn't really work out. But I would say 135, at least one time is what, you should be able to do as a man if you're below 30 assuming you're not 90 pounds all right i looked it up by the way Jeffrey i used artificial intelligence this is what it says your beginner your beginner uh should be able to do between 135 and 175 an intermediate should be able to do between 200 and 220 okay advanced should be able to do 265 to 290 now to your point body weight matters Right? Generally what people say is you should be able to bench your body weight. Now, Ed over here is telling me through the glass that he held up 150. I don't know what you weigh, Ed. Might be a little more than 150. Oh, 220? You weigh 220? Got to get that bench up, Ed. Can't be doing 150 when it's a 220 body weight. I think you got to be able to do body weight. I think that's fair. Real quick, Jeffrey.

let me do this. Two a days. What do you coming? What are you pushing the scales at two a days? Are you 200? What are we looking at? How much I weigh or how much I'm bench pressing? One at a time. How much you weigh? About 235. 235.

What are we benching in two days? I could throw 200. I could probably do 1-220. Or 1-225. I could probably do one two in a row. I'm not asking how many you can do five times. I'm asking if you can do one. You could do $2.25. $2.25 for sure.

I could definitely throw up. Okay, challenge. Okay, challenge. All right. Challenge. Challenge. Okay. Within the next month, two days.

I want to see video of the $2.25. Okay. All right. Now look at Jeffrey. I'm going to go, I'm looking at him right now. I'm going to bet Jeffrey. I can't tell tall he is. I'm betting you weigh, you look like $170.

like somewhere in that range and I'm going to say you're but I think you're benching 200 okay I'll give you my height and I'll let you see if you want to adjust that number okay I'm 6 5 you're not 6 5

everybody does height inflation on this show I'm not buying it everybody is so tall he said Google me he said Google me he said Google me you're 6 5 Jeff Yeah, the roster is available. I played football. Google says 6.5.

What'd you play? I played at University of Oklahoma. Where'd you? You did? Cancel this interview. I had not know I had a sooner football player on the show. I'm letting you live, but. I'm piling my longhorn helmet up high now.

We beat y'all three out of four times. You beat us four times? Three out of four. That's like three out of four. How old are you, Jeffrey? I just turned 30 this month. So I was same year as Baker. We're same age.

Oh, I was on the sidelines for one of those. I think we won it, though. I think Sam Ellinger won that game, if I remember correctly. Not sure. Six foot five, you do look svelt. Were you a big six-foot-five receiver? If you were a defensive end, you've lost. a lot of weight.

I was a receiver. You could have been a tight end, but you're a receiver. You got a receiver body. I can see it. Okay. All right. Now that I've got it, you're 6 foot 5. You weigh 2.

You're still pretty thin. So I'm going year to 10, 215, and now you've got long arms. And that's going to make it hard on that bench. You're a 6 foot 5 receiver. You got a long way to push that weight up. So I'm going, but you still played football. and they had you in the weight room. All right, you're doing body weight.

So you're in the 220 range, 225 on bench. Now give me the stats. For like one rep? Yeah, max. Right now, probably 275. I recently twinked my shoulder. I have video be doing 315 a little while ago, probably about a year ago, I think.

Yeah, one rep. Yeah, of course we're talking one rep, Ed. This is a max out. Oh, he was trying to get a redo on his. 150. He's trying to get a little reputation rehance me on his 150. All right, Jeffrey, wow. Yeah. Okay, 300. Over 300. Yeah, let's give this guy a round of applause. Now I'm going to be looking up, I'm going to look up his career when we're done here. I'm going to figure out who I'm dealing with here, this freaking boomer sooner on my show. No, I'm glad to have you, Jeffrey.

All the more intriguing now that I know you're a college football guy as well. Okay, I want to move to this. The, it's called the third way. This is. A Democratic-leaning organization has said that they need to reform the way they talk. In a paper entitled, Was It Something I Said? They said there are about 40 terms they need to get rid of. Those terms include things like privilege, violence, as in environmental violence, dialoguing, triggering, othering, microaggression, holding space, body shaming, subverting norms

housing insecurity and then of course LGBTQIA plus and Bipak and allyship they admit this stuff

doesn't work with people it doesn't connect Jeffrey yeah I mean I wouldn't say it does I mean who like for example who says unhoused person just say homeless we just say homeless we've been saying homeless

for how long right So it's like they want to try to change the meaning of words and change reality to make stuff sound better and make people feel better. So yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm not saying bi-pac. Like I'm not, most of these things that they're bringing up, no one is saying. And it makes them seem like they said, elitist and out of touch with reality in their own little bubble. They use it all amongst themselves. But then when you go out into the real world, people don't talk like that.

So again, you seem elitist and out of touch. Yeah. Now that he's talking with his hands, I'm seeing those big long receiver fingers. I'm seeing it all now. Now I'm like, okay. By the way, where are you, where are you, Jeffrey, physically? Are you in Oklahoma? I'm in Tulsa. You're in Tulsa. Okay. Otherwise, I'd have you down here in Dallas on a regular basis. That's a long drive up to Tulsa. Still, you got to make the drive sometime. Yeah, I agree with you. Academics have driven the left. A combination of what we've talked about, like the virtual. two signaling Olympics, the victimhood Olympics, and then all of it driven by academics, but I don't actually want to correct that. Maybe not driven by academics, because we've seen professors cower at the threat of students all across the country. So I don't know what's

driving this anymore. It is a tail wag the dog type situation. I mean, Bill Clinton would never have had to been told, at least back in the 1990s, don't talk like this. He knew how to talk to people. I don't know when they lost their minds in terms of catering to one another, as you described it earlier, having these competitions with amongst themselves, and talking like this, and I think that ideas underneath it are as insidious as the language, but talking like this is just not how you reach Americans. No, I don't think it is. And I think it, like, again, I keep using the word elitist, because one thing, if you pay attention to the left, they act as if they're morally superior and they're better than everybody else, right? So it's almost like they say these things,

then let's bring these people who are, you know, morally beneath us. Let's bring them up to our standard and get them to talk how they should talk, right? So I think they consistently do that. And by the way, your screen is showing if you're looking at it up. Oh, look at this. Can you see it? I'm Googling Jeffrey Mead OU Stats while you're talking. I don't care.

I don't care if my, I didn't get it off my screen. Let's see this guy's line. I'm just looking up while he's talking. I'm a little blown away by. Here he is the social media star, social commentator, and now I'm sitting here dealing with a guy that brought me pain three out of four years. Why they got your passing stats? I don't want your passing stats, rushing and receiving.

Here we go. 10 for 150 and three touchdowns in 2016. Yeah, I see it. Okay. All right. I can put it back up on the screen if you want, Jeffrey. I have no problem. No, it's good.

It's good. I'm aware of it. You're good. You're good. But, yeah, I just think, like we're... No, I'm not talking trash. I'm impressed. Trust me.

I'm impressed. You played receiver at Oklahoma. I scored one goal for Pepperdine Water Polo. Trust me. I'm not. I don't have anything to say about anyone's collegiate stats. No, I didn't think you were talking trash. No, man, this is good.

Go ahead. I love that he warned me. Your screen is showing. I love that he warned me. Good thing I wasn't looking up something inappropriate in the middle of his answer about the way the left talks. But we never do. We keep it on the up and up here on Wilcane Country. Jeffrey, I love having you on the show that's twice now, once for the television show, once for the digital show.

I'd love to have you back more and I'd love to get you down to Dallas. Maybe during Texas OU weekend, you can come down here. We'll go down to the State Fair together and we can deal with that from the fairgrounds. We'll be broadcasting Will Kane Country. We'd love to have you any time, Jeffrey. All right. We might have to do that. We'll talk soon.

Okay. Take care, man. Thank you. Follow Jeffrey on TikTok, on X, on all the social media platforms. As I said, he's blown up everywhere. Really fascinating social commentary. And it turns out he's a boomer sooner. Let's talk about college football, actually. Let's get into that with RJ Young. Fox Sports.coms. College football analyst has his top 136 out. Where did those Sooners come in? Next on Will King Country. I'm Janice Dean. Join me every Sunday as I focus on stories of hope and people who are truly rays of sunshine in their community and across the world. Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com. This is Jimmy Fala, inviting you to join me for Fox Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas. Just kidding. It's only a three-hour show. Listen live at noon Eastern or get the podcast at Fox Across America.com.

Yeah. Ed is jacked about this. Now it's who can bench more, Will or Two a Days. Why do I keep getting physical challenges? Can I just get a rest? Can I get a rest for the Pete and Bobby Challenge? The New York City Navy Seals swim. I'm sore.

The entire gym, by the way, is doing the Pete and Bobby Challenge. I was there this morning, and there was three dudes talking about doing the Pete and Bobby Challenge. is Wilcane Country streaming live at Fox News. Facebook page, the Wilcane Country YouTube page. So two days, you're going to do this. You're going to max. But now I said, I'll do it too. I was just talking about I'll max in the next month, okay?

And you go 225. So you feel that confident that you are going to outbench me. In the next, we'll put a time frame on this. I'm looking at you. You're beefy boy. You got some size to you. That's going to be a big advantage. Yeah.

Long arms thing, then we talked about this. We both have long arms. This is the problem with us. Ben's pressing is hard because you've got to get a lot of weight and a lot of range of motion. So it's tough. Okay, so good. That evens out between us. Okay, so what's your number?

What are you going to be able to do? I think I could throw up $2.25 for one rep max. $2.25? Yeah. All right. Screw it. Screw it. Yeah, okay, fine.

All right. Game on. I'm going for that. I don't know if I can do it I think I did it once when I was in my 20s or 30s. We'll both be like wobbly. I'm 50 years old.

I'm 50 years old. I should get an age curve on you. And a weight curve. And a weight curve. All right. We both need spotters, by the way. He's over here just heckling me. You want to put tin foil pad in here?

He's going to say no, no. I'm not even going to try. All right. You're on. Two of a day. What do you think about R.J. Young? Fox News National College football analyst. Let's bring in R.J.

Talk a little college football. Let me get a look at him. Yeah. I can already see some delts and some traps. There's going to be some issues here if there's a bench press competition with R.J. I feel like. I don't know.

What can you throw up, RJ? Honestly, Jeff could put up some weight at 6'4.6. I followed him around at Union. get a big profile on him, and Carson Meyer was good to see him. Jeff could put up some weight. Oh, I did ask him. He said he could do 300. Okay, okay.

I believe him. He said, six, five. Yeah, I didn't know. I've spoken to Jeff twice. I did not know he was an Oklahoma sooner. I did not know that. Big old six foot five receiver. It simply does not break me as odd that, you know,

would not tell anybody he would not lead with that i mean you've seen how jeff gets down you're going to learn it for yourself and he's going to go yeah i know it thanks that's just who he is very cool yeah he's super understated so you said you followed him around at union was that his high school where was his high school in tulsa tulsa union yeah it was a big deal at the time that jeff and uh a fullback named cars and mire committed to oklahoma and i followed them around for a big in-death feature What prompted you to follow them around in particular? I mean, there's, I don't know if Jeff, was Jeff a five star, four star? I mean, there's hundreds of these guys every year.

What caught your attention about Jeffrey Meade at that time? I don't remember exactly what his ranking was, but six foot six coming out of Tulsa Union at a time when Kirk Frederick was just making dues that were on an assembly line that were either going to Oklahoma or Oklahoma State, even down to Texas a couple of times. What struck me about him is he was going to go pro in football if that was there for him, but he was going to be successful is the vibe you get from him at 17 years old. So I got to talk with his mom. I got to talk with his dad, went to school with him, stayed in class with him, talked to

his teachers, talked to Coach Frederick, and really tried to get underneath why you were going to Oklahoma, as opposed to say Washington State, which was coming after him pretty hard. Mike Leach was still there, wide receiver, could turn him into next Michael Crabtree. I just want to go home. I just want to go straight to Oklahoma. I know who I want to be. I know how I'm going to do it

and even then his mom would tell me about hey he's already putting together LLCs he's already using legal zoom to do this and do that and you see how charismatic he is she had no doubts that not only would he figure it out once he decided what he was going to do he was going to excel at that and I was always really taking it back

at how he treated other people that was cool so that is the reason I wanted to follow him around that's a really interesting story he's a serious dude you can tell that I mean, thoughtful, serious, contemplative dude that now that you say that stuff about setting up LLCs at 17, just, I don't know, doesn't surprise me. All right, RJ Harvey, though, Foxport.com.

National College Football analyst is here with us on Will King Country. We had RJ with us a year ago. We should pick up right there with what we're talking about. We should pick up with Oklahoma and your invocation of Washington State. So you put out your top 136. People can check this out. It's out there right now. And I think one of the first things everybody's noticing about your 136 is how.

high you have Oklahoma, based upon their Washington State quarterback, at least in part, John Mateer, running back Jaylon Ott from Cal as well. But you're bigger on OU than most people seem to be this season. There are eight spots between me and the AP, and essentially there are, what, 16 spots between me and the coaches poll. Coaches' poll also ranked a BYU that doesn't have a Jake Retzloft, so I don't know what to do with that exactly, because you're going to start a true freshman wearing number 47 in Bear Bachmeier. Put that aside. But the reason that I was high on Oklahoma is not just me, but everybody until it came time to put a vote there, saw John Mateer had gone for 3,100, 826. There's your dual threat. There's your passing threat. Jadenot, the last year that he was

healthy, went for 1,300. Dionne Berks is back. And my favorite part of all of this is the offensive line that was so inexperienced because of the injuries that it sustained last year is experienced. They managed to keep those guys from going into the portal. And then defensively, I could tell you about R. Mason Thomas. I could tell you about Grayson Houghton, and I could tell you about the Bowen brothers. But I would prefer to say, it's Brent Venables calling the defense.

And you know better than most people, what it looks like when Brent Venables is calling the defense and his backs against the wall, right? He's got an average of seven wins since getting Oklahoma, two losing seasons. They're both his, three years. I think this is a year in which if John Mateer and J.Nott played their potential,

it's a playoff team. I know this because the last time that Oklahoma had a 3,000, yard passer and a thousand yard rush are on the same team. That's exactly what they did. They won a conference championship. They played in the college football playoffs. They got absolutely destroyed by Alabama and Quinn and Williams, but it feels like

it's in the off. And they'll earn it, right? You look at that schedule, it's tough. But I went with what we know and not what we think is going to happen, but what we know from the past and then I rank them accordingly, and I think that's at number 10. Do you think what is the, this could be to your point of the back and so. this could be it for Brent Venables, like if it's not, but what is the if it's not?

Like, what do they have to do to sort of, I'm not saying he's definitely going to be fired, but that heat is going to be really hot if it's another losing season at OU? It's an interesting question that's complicated even more so with Joe Kisiglione announcing that he will retire at the end of the year. So you got Joe Harris, who is a huge football fan, has been very good about positioning the football program for its run the SEC and then watching which Longhorns have done has really brought this back home to Norman. I think you got a top 15 Michigan that's coming to town. You get a good win there. You're going to be okay. And then it is how can you go week to week? So if they go and

they win nine games in the regular season and they're right there pushing for the college football playoff, everybody's fine with this. If they win eight games, I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure he could survive that. Now, I love Brent, but that's because I know who Brent is. is he's from this place that is oklahoma he understands how we move he understands how we get down and i believe that your football program takes on the identity of its head coach and that man is ferocious if they don't get to nine wins though i don't know that how much i like him is gonna save his job right yeah it hurts it's hard with i mean i'm not bragging i'm saying it is hard with with what tex is doing because that's the standard for you like you got to be

better than UT, and the UT arrows pointed so north. But you did say OU playoffs. I looked at your top, I looked at all of your rankings, you had a lot of SEC teams up pretty high. Rankings are rankings, playoffs, or something else. So you had LSU, Georgia, Texas, Alabama, all really high OU. So do you, how many teams can the SEC put do you think into the playoff? At most four, at most for. And given that we're going to use the strength of metric criteria this year that is going to kind of weight the SEC and the Big Ten against everybody else, and we're using straight seating, it's more of a possibility this year than it was last year. Now, that said, there are eight teams in that 16 team league that can make the college football playoff.

And it's really about what's going to break for who. And the reason that I rank these teams as highly as I did is that's how good they are. And I'm taking into account not just who they have, right? Let's take Missouri, for instance, who has a Bo Pribula and a Sam Horn who are going to probably compete on the field for the job. But this is a Missouri team that gets eight home games, which is really unheard of in our sport, even at this time. All you got to do is take care of what you got at home. Go get you one or two on the road, one of which is against Oklahoma, and you're right there. I could say the same thing about Ole Miss. I can say the same thing about Tennessee, even with Joey Aguilar. We know what LSU is going to be about. We know what

Georgia is going to be about. We know that Texas is the number one team in the country. Then it's about who's able to pull off a win when nobody's looking like Vanderbilt against Alabama last year, like Arkansas against Tennessee last year, like Ole Miss against Georgia. That league is going to take care of itself. But I think it can get four teams in. What do you think, RJ, about the talk now with a nine-game SEC schedule, creating three permanent rivalries for each team in the SEC, and the Texas rivalries are pretty obvious. It would be A&M, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. And they tried to preserve history, you know, some geography, these types of things.

For Oklahoma, I believe, if I remember correctly, it was Texas and Missouri, but I can't remember who the third team was that there was discussion about on who would be their annual rival. Was it South Carolina? Really? Which is, that's not a rivalry. I saw something. I thought I saw A&M for OU as well.

but South Carolina that's not a rivalry for you guys do you like this whole we're going to have three annual rivalries neither is South Carolina for A&M South Carolina's natural rivals actually you know North Carolina and Clemson but that's beside the point I think the point is yeah I love that they're going to a nine game

SEC schedule I'm not really sticking to what their three permanent opponents are going to be because really we're talking about two for most SEC programs that you care about so if it's Oklahoma for instance I would love to see Oklahoma play Texas every year I think everybody else would and then more or less take your pick

right you can make that LSU you can make that A&M you can make that Missouri which is another one that they're floating around because it's projected they haven't actually come out with this yet but the reason that they're doing it is because the strength of metric is going to come into play and it puts them on par with the rest of the Big 12 and the Big Ten

the ACC we think will follow suit but getting them to go to nine games it's been a big deal because it feels like the resume is a little bit padded or a little bit weak depending on who you're talking to. And they've been against this. I should say, Commissioner Sanky had been against this up until recently when it came down to SMU and Alabama

and hey, look at our schedule, look at who we played, look at who SMU played. They get to the ACC championship game and they can't finish. I love that everybody's playing the same amount of games against their regular season competition because I want to see the game be as fair on the field as it can be,

even as we know college football is not fair. Let's at least try to get next to, hey, they play nine, they play nine, they played nine. And if you're in the Big 12, you love this, because you might be able to get more than one team in in most years in a league that could go as deep as 14 with teams that could win its conference championship. I like it. All right. On your rankings, you like a lot of people, it's just really hard to say who's the best team in the Big 12. I mean, I don't know. It could be half a dozen teams, and they're going to get a representative into the playoff.

I had David Cohn on last week. He thought it would be Baylor. I've seen other people predict this is the year that Texas Tech makes the jump. Arizona State was there last year. A lot of people think they'll still be there. There was talk of Kansas State. Iowa State just beat Kansas State, right?

So it feels wide open in the Big 12, but probably just one. One is going to be in the playoff. One is going to be in the playoff. It could be two. We just need to see how the season goes. but who wins that conference championship is what we're really talking about, right?

I like Iowa State in this spot. They were really great last year. They won 11 games for the first time in school history, and that was after taking a loss that basically bounced them out, right, of the playoff because they lost the conference championship to Arizona State. Then they beat Miami.

I know Cam Ward didn't play in the second half, but it's a win, and it's a bowl game, and they've been pretty good. Matt Campbell has built the kind of program that I think everybody says they want to build. I mean, you look at what, Clemson and Dabo Sweeney have done, basically taken in three transfers this year

and building from, hey, we recruit and we keep. We recruit and we keep. That's what Matt Campbell's been doing at Iowa State, and he's been slowly building toward this moment. And I thought that the winner of that Iowa State, Kansas State game, would make the Big 12 championship, and I still think that is true. Now, outside of that,

I mean, I'm with you. Dave Miranda feels really good about Baylor, which is wild. Texas Tech hasn't won nine games since 2009. I need y'all to win nine before you can play in the conference championship and you spend a lot of money to get there. We'll see how close you get. Kansas is going to be a comer

because they feel like they got back the guy in Jalen Daniels that can make them go. The guy that he was in the second half of last season, not the guy he was in the first half of last season. We don't know what Colorado is going to be, but we think they can be good. Texas Christian still has Josh Hoover. You can keep going down the list here.

There's only a couple of teams I don't feel good about playing in that Big 12 championship and it's the teams with the two new head coaches. Rich Rodriguez at West Virginia and Scott Frost's Central Florida, outside of them, you could talk me in to anybody. Yeah, wide open.

Okay, let's go back to your rankings, top 10. As I look at it, you've got, we're in the top 10, so the variance can only be so much. But the three teams with the biggest variance, I would say, stick out to me, between you and the AP poll

are Penn State, Oregon, Clemson. You have Oregon, you know, four spots higher than the AP has them. You have them at number three. The AP, you love. loves Penn State. They come in at number two. You've got them down at seven. And then you've got Clemson at six. AP has them at four. I've seen another, by the way, they think Clemson is a national title level, Texas, Ohio State. They should be up there in that group. Let's just talk about

each of those really quickly. It is hard for me, and I'm pulling for Clemson. I've said this several times. My nephew plays for Clemson, so outside of Texas, I'll be rooting for Clemson. It is kind of hard to find holes on their roster. They've got it. Almost every. Everywhere. Everywhere. And I'm looking at some very important statistics for them. Can they keep people under 31 points? Because if they do, they're going to be great, right?

If they can score 31 points, they do, they're going to be great. We know what Kate Klobnik is. We know that they're going to have great wide receiver play. The thing that makes Clemson scary each and every year we talk about the win the national championship is the defense, right? It's T.J. Parker. It's Woody Woodass. Oh, my goodness.

I keep going on a list on this before I get to Peter Woods, who's probably. probably going to go in the top Kennedy NFL lab. Right, right. You can go everywhere and find guys. And that's what he has done really, really well. There aren't any holes on that offense or that defense. And that is incredibly difficult to accomplish, even in this age of the portal.

I see them winning the ACC championship, but for Clemson, it's about getting to the playout. Because once they get into the tournament, we know what kind of football team Davos-Wweeney prepares. And I think that's why you're seeing more people say, the other one national championship. Heck, he said we could be the first team to go 16 and 0. He feels that good about it.

And if Kade Klubnick plays to his ability, we're talking about his stats last year being comparable to Baker Mayfield in 2017. One guy won the Heisman trophy. One guy willed his team into the ACC title game and then willed them into the playoff. And I thought, you know, if the rush game doesn't go to crap against Texas, maybe that's a better football game for Clemson.

But that's actually, and those are my two favorite teams, but it did not feel that close. It felt like there was a talent gap between those two teams in the playoff last year, Texas and Clemson. And that's going to be the question for Clemson. They do look stacked at every position, but are you Georgia, Ohio State, Texas, stacked? Are you that kind of talent level stacked? And on the defensive line, to your point, I think the answer is yes, by the way. I think the answer is yes for sure. We'll see about Cade Club

We'll see about the skill guys They've got the names and the recruiting ability But we will see about those guys Okay Ohio's Oregon and Penn State Those are the flips AP really likes Penn State, you got them down at number seven And they've got Oregon and seven You've got them up at three. So basically you've got those two

Almost flipped Yes, I like Oregon's schedule It's Pillowy Soft. It's going to be great for them to learn with Dante Moore They got a big game against Penn State Outside of that, Indiana's got to come to them. And then I would argue that their toughest game after those two is flying to Piscataway to play Rutgers in a different time zone, three time zones away, if I'm correct there. I also think that it's important to point out they're 25 and three over the last two years.

And those two years have been with Will Stein, who's had two different starting quarterbacks. He took over with Bo Nix, and that was another great year. Brings in Dillon Gabriel, and that was a great year. We know Dante Moore has the ability. It's how quickly he gets acclimated. I realize they lose Evan Stewart for an unknown amount of time, but they got the number one wide receiver prospect in the country in Decorion and Moore. And the best player not at Ohio State in the Big Ten is playing safety for them.

Get to know Dylan Thinemann if you don't already. He made my top 100 last year out of Purdue. Purdue was sorry, but he was not. That is the second best safety in the entire country for me. And now he plays for Tosh LaPoy and Dan Lanny. That's terrifying if I am a quarterback because I know that guy, I can make him wrong and he's got enough ability

like Caleb Down to be a pterodactyl and cover the entire field and make me wrong by picking off a pass or getting to a wide receiver I just didn't think he had the capability of getting to. So take into account

what their records have been over the last couple of years, how soft the schedule is and what Will Stein, Natasha LaPoy and Dan Lennon have been able to do. I mean, we're talking about the defending Big Ten champions

and the number one seat going into the playoff last year. I don't think that's as big a stretch as many think it is. Right. How many big 10 teams do you have in the playoff? You got four SEC, how many big 10? At least two, maybe three.

At least two. The two teams that play in the conference championship for sure. So you're not as big on the big 10 as like, for example, you had David Cohn. He had four or five. He had Illinois in there. And then I saw in your rankings, you like Indiana too. So like who would be that?

Who's third? Do you like Michigan? They just announced they're going to start the freshman, right? Bryce Underwood at Michigan. So, like, who is that third team after Penn State? Well, fourth team, because it would be Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon. It would probably have to come down to what that Indiana-Illinois game looks like, right? Who's undefeated if they are when they play each other?

That's going to be pivotal. I like Illinois because they got so much coming back. I like teams that got a lot of returning production. They've been able to keep their staffs intact and have a quarterback that we know and can trust. Luke Altmire is not the playmaker that some of these men have been. in the past, but he's good enough to get you to the playoff. With Indiana, we're betting on Kurt Signetti now. He can flip

the roster. He can win 11 games at Indiana. He can make the playoff. Things that by the way, Lincoln Riley hasn't done at USC. We're still waiting on other programs to catch out. Wisconsin be another. Iowa to be another. I think that we're betting on what he thinks he has in Fernando Mendoza

and now he's been able to put together a program. Michigan with Bryce Underwood, it's interesting because him as a true freshman starting quarterback is something we thought was going to happen the whole way and the way that Trevor Lawrence kind of showed up and took the job one day

and dabble handed to him, never gave it back. This is a guy who was brought in because Michigan played the game without a quarterback last year. I mean, Davis Warren threw for 1,199 yards. We got tailbacks that are going to go for more than that. And yet they won eight games, they beat Ohio State, they beat Alabama.

If he's as good as J.J. McCarthy was, who didn't even throw for 3,000 yards. You got everything you need. It's just you need to develop some wide receivers that can catch play action, and you've got to be able to trust Justice Haynes, Jordan Marshall, to run the football, and we know what Mink Martindale can do. So between those three teams, I could see someone else getting in. But again, Indiana has already shown, we know how to do this.

Illinois has shown we know how to do this. Sharon Moore's put together a pretty damn good program, but I need him to take that next step. So if you're going to ask me right now, I'm going to go with Indiana. Okay, but I just did the math. And you did not say four, though. You said two, maybe three. And I just did the math.

So if that's four SEC teams, I'll give you the three Big Ten teams. Notre Dame, group of five. That puts me at nine. Big 12 puts me at 10. Just by process elimination, that's two for the ACC, Clemson, and who? It's hard to tell. It really is. It's hard to tell.

And I'm not sure that we get two from the ACC over, say, an undefeated Memphis coming out of the American. That's not out of the realm of possibility for me. You got an undefeated team outside of another group of five champion that we think is really good. So you've got two 11 and one teams. Can that knock out a two-loss ACC contender for the championship? But if I'm going to pick from the ACC, I'm going to go with Miami. For me, it's Shannon Dawson knows what he's doing offensively.

He's got a guy that can run the offense in Carson Beck. They're going to be fine at wide receiver. They're going to be just as good last year as this year as they were last year at tailback. I'm going to put Mario Cristobal in the seat here and go, don't make a mistake. If you need to have someone else help you with your clock management and your game management, do that because they should have beaten Syracuse last year and they should have been in the ACC title game last year. That can't happen again this year. They did everything they needed to do to get there.

And for the number one overall picking the NFL draft not to play in the playoff, that's coaching to me. That's got nothing to do with personnel. If he's a better coach this year, yeah. They'll make the ACC championship game. They'll play against Clemson, and then we'll see. All right. So the way I hear it, a few months from now, our debate will be a fourth big 10 team, a second ACC team, or two group of five teams. That'll be the big debate.

By the way, the group of five will lose that debate. There's just no doubt about it. They'll lose that debate to those other two conferences. But we'll wait. We got months to sort it all out with real football to play. All right, RJ Young, Fox Sports.com, national college football analyst. Love having you on the show, man. Thanks for the in-depth breakdown.

Thanks for having me on, Will. Have a good day. All right, you too. Check them out at foxnews.com, R.J. Young. All right, let's go quickly over to the Wilicia before we leave today. And Thomas West says, I love Will can't handle breaking news

of I played college ball. It did send me into a tailson. That was good. I'm sitting there talking to the guy about all these other things, and I'm like, wait, what? I'm six foot five. I played receiver for OU.

Yeah, he did throw me for a. a loop. Paul McGinnis says, weight plus 50 pounds for an in-shaped dude. Body weight plus 50. Okay, so two days, you weigh 220, you said? What did you say you weigh? You weigh 235? So it sounds to me like you got to do 25. No, you got to do 285. There's no way I'm throwing that up. Do you want me working on the show again? I won't have arms anymore. Yeah, and Edge, you got to do 270. 270. All right. I'll give you guys a couple of weeks to get this in order. Stretch it out. Take some of that joint medicine, whatever it is. That's going to do it for us.

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