Will Cain Country - Trump Declares “Golden Age” in Israel, Middle East (ft. Jay Feely & Jeffery Mead)

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Story 1: Former NFL Kicker and Candidate for Arizona’s 5th Congressional District Jay Feely and Social & Political Commentator Jeffery Mead enter the 'Will Cain Country' studios to analyze why some Democrats won’t acknowledge the successful release of Israeli hostages held by Hamas. Plus, Jeffery, Jay, and Will discuss how they moved from the world of sports to the world of politics. Story 2: Jeffery and Will react to Gov. Gavin Newsom’s (D-CA) plan to give reparations to descendants of slaves and share their respective concerns with the proposition. Jeffery also breaks down the key differences between older Black Americans and the current generation, explaining how being raised by those who experienced legitimate persecution can instill a vestigial victim mindset in the younger generations who don’t require it. Story 3: Jay Feely sits down one on one with Will to explain what led him to leave his career in broadcasting to pursue a seat in congress. Jay shares what he feels are the biggest issues currently facing the country and what he wants to do about them, before making a guess as to why there are so many athletes running for office recently.   Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@willcainnews)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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a state that never had slaves. The descendants of people that were never slaves will be paid by people who never had slaves. We're going to break it down with former Oklahoma Sooner Wide Receiver, political and social commentator, Jeffrey Mead. Three, former NFL kicker Jay Feeley is running for Congress. in Arizona. We're going to talk to him about. His run for Congress,

media malpractice, and what it's like to kick a game winner in the NFL. It is Will Kane country on a historic Monday. For the first time in General, for the first time in decades, the prospect of peace in the Middle East, the prospect of peace between Palestinians and Israel. President Trump suggests this could be the golden

age of the Middle East. Generations from now, this will be remembered as the moment that everything began to change and change very much for the better. Like the USA right now, Now, it will be the golden age of Israel and the golden age of the Middle East. It's going to work together. Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Middle Eastern countries partnering now with the United States of America and Israel to try to put in place a plan that will preserve with some sense of permanency, peace in the Middle East. In the meantime, for the first time in two years, there are no hostages. in gaza let's get into that with story number one today as of this morning incredible videos

as families have been reunited with their family members held hostage in gaza for the past two years they are images that speak for themselves they are sounds that speak for themselves let's take a minute and just appreciate a couple of these moments here are some of the families being reunited with each other after being held hostage in Gaza. Gai-go, Gai-ko, Gai-ko,

Gai-Ku-Ki-Ku-Ki-Ki-Ku-Ki-Ki-Ki-Ki-Ki-Ki. Truly incredible. Can you only imagine? Can you put yourself in first person? I think long ago you would have had to give up. I think I would have been tempted to give up. Hope. How could you imagine, as you saw the videos from October 7th,

or you heard the stories of what was happening inside of Gaza? of Gaza. How could you have retained hope? And yet, they did. And yet these families did. Here, watch again. Here's a couple of more reunification videos that are absolutely incredible. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm my life of my, my, my life's my, you're my, my life, she's my. Truly is something to behold. It truly is real, very beautiful human emotion. We're going to have an ongoing conversation today.

We're going to be joined by social and political commentator, former Oklahoma Sooner wide receiver Jeffrey Mead. We're also going to be joined as we are right now, as he sits. down at the table by former NFL kicker, Jay Feely, who's running for Congress from Arizona. Jay, what's up? How are you? It's great to be here. It's good to have you. We're going to spend a little bit more time later in the program talking about your run for Congress and your career as an NFL kicker, but I just wanted to bring you into a conversation about what we're seeing this moment here in the Middle East. What breaks my heart is that it took so long. You see

the families with their children and the hugs. And you know, you just think, the two years that they sat there waiting, hoping that this day would come, probably thinking that it would never come, that they wouldn't get their loved ones back. And, you know, I'm just thankful that we had a president who was strong and believed in peace through strength. And I think if President Trump wasn't the president, if it was a president Harris, I don't know that this day ever comes. You told me a few years ago you made a trip to the Middle East. You went to see Israel, you saw, I believe, as well, Gaza. We went all over. We started in Poland. We brought a hundred Ukrainian Jewish refugees that were moving to Israel to live. That was pretty special

to be a part of that and heartbreaking at the same time. And then we went all around. We went to see the Gaza Strip. We went to the West Bank. We went up to the Syrian border. And you just saw how small really Israel was and how they're surrounded by countries that want to see their destruction and want to see the end of the Israel people, the Jewish people. And for me, it brought it home. I mean, one, it was the most incredible spiritual experience because my faith came to life. I walked where Jesus walked. And so for me, it was such an emotional time. But also, you know, when October 7th happened and some of the people that we were with and the villages that we were with were kidnapped or killed, you know, I was just heartbroken. And to me, I couldn't understand how some of

the response in America from so many was, you know, to side with the Palestinians. Indian people and decide with the terrorists and in any way to support that. You know, it was, it just was mind-boggling to me. What do you make of the role President Trump, Steve Whitkoff, Jared Kushner did in bringing something together that looked like it's defied presidencies, has eluded presidencies for more than half a century? I believe that's his eighth conflict that he's been a part of solving since he became president less than a year ago.

You know, it's amazing what he's done. I saw the paper this morning in Jerusalem, you know, calling him, you know, the peaceful president. And, you know, it was just amazing what he's been able to accomplish. And, you know, so many still, they called him Hitler. They said he was going to bring on World War III. They said he was the end of democracy. And all he's done is solve conflicts throughout some of the most difficult places in the world to solve conflicts. It is truly incredible.

Walking in the studio now as well as Jeffrey Mead, social and political commentator, former Oklahoma Sooner. Jeffrey, what's up? Nice to meet you in person, man. This is Jay Feely. Hey, Jeffrey. Good to meet you. Glad to introduce you guys together. First of all, you are about 6-4, 6-5, right?

Yeah, you're 6-5. Okay. Let's get it right. I've doubted Jeffrey's height from time to time, but this is the first time we met in person, and it's true. Glad to introduce you to Jay. You remember Jay from kicking in the NFL for? No Michigan helmet up here, though. I'm a little, you know, as soon as took care of my Wolverines earlier this.

How long were you in the NFL? 14 years. 14 years. Jeffrey played wide receiver for Oklahoma, so we have to take a moment today and just give condolences to him. He was very confident last, was it Thursday? Thursday, I think we talked. That is correct. That is correct.

And you weren't very confident when we talked. You know, you weren't. That's got to be a life lesson in there somewhere. There is. There is. Y'all played better. Y'all won in every aspect of the game, so I've got to give it to you. It was, I was there.

It was a lot of fun. I wanted to bring you guys in. I'm going to talk to each of you separately. We have some topics that I want to talk to you about, some talks. I want to talk to Jay about, but it's such an incredible day right now in what's happening in the Middle East. And it doesn't really matter in my mind whether or not you were someone who looked at the war over the last couple of years and thought that there was atrocities on both sides or whatnot you thought there was a good guy and a bad guy. This should be a moment that's celebrated

by everybody. I mean, this is peace. And it might be, it might be permanent peace, which is just an incredible accomplishment by President Trump. Yeah. I mean, I think it is. I think it's interesting we see a lot of people not wanting to necessarily give him credit, and they were going on and on telling us he's going to be the president of war, but we've actually seen essentially the exact opposite of that ever since he's gotten into office. So I think there are a lot of reasons for people on every side to celebrate, and I think that's something that we should be doing and also giving credit words do. What do you think, Jeffrey, the people, there are not, there are some who are declining to celebrate this ceasefire. And it's interesting, some of the

same people who have been asking for a ceasefire for well over two years, you know, saying that Israel needs to draw back. Israel needs to stop. You know, I don't know. Have we heard from Elon Omar? Have we heard from, we might. I checked AOC's Twitter. And? Nothing. Nothing. So many of the squad, nothing. And that tells you everything, the hypocrisy that exists, that they can't bring themselves to

say, hey, this was a good job. Our president did a good job. Well, what does it tell you? Why can't they do that? Well, they just hate President Trump. Everything they do is anti-President Trump, you know, and that's their whole platform right now. you know, their answer to losing the election has been to move further left and to push back against everything that this administration does, even if it's to the benefit of not only the American people, but now, you know, people that are at war. Let's keep Jeffrey Meade and Jay Feely together right here on Will Cain Country when we come back. Ontario, the wait is over. The gold standard of online casinos has arrived. Golden Nugget online casino is live, bringing Vegas-style excitement and a world-class gaming experience right to your fingertips. Whether you're a seasoned player or just starting, signing up is fast and simple.

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It tells me something else about the sincerity of their motivations over the last two years. I mean, were you really interested in preserving the lives of Palestinians? You know, if you can't see it today and say, hey, look, that's today. day is a massive step forward, right? This is a ceasefire. And if that's not to be celebrated, then what was it you actually wanted to happen in the Middle East? You know, I don't know if they really cared about what's happening in the Middle East because they are Christians being, you know, murdered in Africa. They're not talking about that, right? So I think a big part of it is they want to have something righteous that they can come around together and make

themselves feel virtuous about. They feel like they're fighting for a cause. Because if they truly care about what was happening. But what is that cause? It's not, it's not the preservation of life. No, it's them feeling good about themselves, right? So like if they, the cause, the best way to put this would be they're saying, hey, we're going to appear virtuous to everybody out there. And in that virtue and the fact that we're showing virtue, this is going to make us feel like we're fighting for something. And I think that's what they're doing. It's not really about those people. It's really about themselves, but they're not going to say that. I would argue it's really about power too, Will. You know, they want to make sure that

they win the House back in 2026 in the midterms. And everything they're doing is predicated on how do we win the House back? So any win that they give President Trump, any time that they say he did a good job, they feel like they're moving away from their ability to garner back the house and to be able to have power. And we know what will happen if they win the House in the midterms. They'll impeach again. They'll delay. They'll try and do everything so this administration can't accomplish anything in those two years and try to get to, you know, know the next presidential election and try to win back the House and the Senate. I almost feel like we're talking about two different they's.

I feel like when you're talking, Jay, you're talking about a lot of the people who are politicians, who are running for office, who are vying for power. I'm also interested in the they, I think what you're referencing, Jeffrey, which is the kids we've seen on college campuses for the last two years. Correct. I think you're 100% right. Both of the things we're talking about are accurate, but I think there are a lot of people on college campuses, a lot of Democrats that aren't actually in power who are virtue signaling, essentially. And they want to make them so feel good and they want to feel like they're behind a cause.

But in reality, a bunch of them are just being useful idiots for terrorists and actually spreading and legitimizing terrorism as a way of doing things. And I think it's actually quite dangerous. Yeah. And in that way, peace is a disruption to their cause and a disruption to their self-identity that they've developed. You know, you bring up to Christians in Nigeria. I've done that on the Will Kane show. And it's incredible how much traction that gets, like meaning on social media. people don't hear about it. Sure. And then you have to ask yourself why. And I think that there's

two answers. One, it's because the victims, I think honestly, are black Africans, and that just doesn't get the attention. I don't know why. Honestly, that doesn't get the attention that in the telling of the college campus liberal, the victim is the Palestinian, right? So why is that a more sympathetic person than a black Christian in Nigeria? But I think the second part is it doesn't give you the right bad guy, right? The people killing black Christians in Nigeria are black Muslims in Nigeria. Correct. And I don't know, I'm not, I don't want to lead to everything being antisemitic and everything is about Israel, but Israel provides the convenient bad guy to them. Yes, they do. And I think, again, and I also, for whatever reason, people have no problem

critiquing or criticizing Christianity, but when it comes to criticizing Islam, they're hesitant to do it. and I'm not really sure why that is, but maybe they see it as a power structure, just like white people, for example, you know, they say black people can't be racist because they don't have the power structure. Well, they might argue that Christians have the power structure here. So we're going to criticize the crap out of them. But since Muslims don't have the power structure, they're beyond criticism. But that wouldn't be the case in Nigeria, right? So they're superimposing the power structures of America onto Africa. Correct.

Yeah, yeah. Which is pretty wild. I asked Jadis, what do you think? I mean, look, you know, I try to check myself. I'm always like, you know, you don't, my job is not to be the president's cheerleader. I don't believe that to be the case, but my job is also to tell the truth where I see it. And I think we're looking at the most consequential. I say this, I say this privately.

I said it at a high school football game on Friday. We're looking at the most consequential presidency of a century. I think you can literally go back, yeah, 1920s at the least, and I'm just randomly drawing that number because I think you could go back even further. And I don't think I needed this moment for it to be the case for Donald Trump, but now I think it almost becomes undeniable. Like, how do you deny the success and power of this presidency? I mean, I don't think you do.

I think you just have to be realistic. And if you are realistic and you don't have Trump derangement syndrome, when I say that, meaning going to oppose him no matter what, you can see that there has been a massive effect as a result of the things that he's been doing and as a result of his presidency. So I think if you're just being honest about it, you can say, yes, this is a very, very consequential president. And we're only, we're not even a year into his term. No, right. So, Jay, you've been over there.

I think there's also a healthy level of skepticism about whether or not this piece holds. I think that the parties on the other side. Look, Hamas is not a party that, to the extent that is a party, should ever be trusted. It's incinerated that trust. Right. So the question is those other powers involved in the play, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, whether or not they can impose their will on Hamas and have some say, along with Israel in the United States, that makes it different this time.

Well, they certainly can because they're the ones that fund Hamas. And so if you look at Iran or Qatar, whoever's funding them, if you don't fund them, then they're not going to have the ability to be in that leadership position that they're in. I think the people there, you know, want peace and they don't want to be used as pawns that Hamas does. You know, you go back to Bill Clinton talking about in 2000 that there was an offer for a Palestinian state that they turned down and they didn't want, you know, and they were going to be allowed to have basically the entire West Bank, and they turned that down because they wanted to be able to resist Israel, and they want the destruction of Israel.

And I think when that is at the core of your beliefs, I think long-term, yeah, you're right to be wondering if this deal will hold. But anything that got all of the hostages back was able to create peace, even if it's for just this moment in time, and who knows how long it lasts, I think that's a wonderful thing. And I also think that you're right when you were talking about Nigeria and the lack, same thing in Haiti. You know, these gangs are going through Haiti and killing Christians at Will down there. You know, it's a failed state.

And really no one talks about that either. They're going through, they're raping, killing with no consequence. And there's no leadership there, but no one talks about this. Isn't interesting what we choose to care about? I mean, you brought up Haiti in my mind. What about the black on black deaths in Chicago? That doesn't matter, right? It doesn't matter until it's a white cop.

Right? So where you choose to, I don't know, extend your empathy or extend your care or extend your virtue signaling or extend the thing you're using as your cause is very revealing. Yeah. And I think as well, like until you're willing to do something personally, don't tell me about all the virtue signaling, the things that you care about, the causes that you care about. Until you're when, and I think about this all the time with Democrat politicians, like until you're willing to bring somebody into your home to your own home, then don't tell me about how much you care about illegals or you care about. people oppressed all over until you're willing to spend your own money and go there and get engaged in the process and don't tell me about all the things you're going to do i think about that when people are going to run for office don't tell me about all the things you're going to do in office when you get there show me what you did in your life leading up to you running that'll tell me what you're going to be like as a politician so i'm going to talk to both of you separately but

then this popped into my head is something i want to talk to you about together so when you said bill clinton my mind uh jumped to bill parcels and here's why so i just read this about you jay so So, and tell me if it's true because it's Wikipedia, one of your best professional seasons was with the Dolphins. My best. Your best. Yeah. You're best. I led the league.

Yeah. Right. And yet, you didn't come back. And what Wikipedia suggests is because Bill Parcells, who was not the coach, but I think he was the general manager. He was like the president, overseeing everything. Didn't like how it spoken you were. He didn't like that I did TV and radio. He didn't like that I was a captain on the team, that I was the player rap as well.

I had to hold them accountable. I do remember a meeting where the new head coach brought me in and said, you know, we want you to kick and go stand in a corner and not say anything. And my mentality was, you know what, if that's what you want, like I'll do that right now. And, you know, I spent five months in the off season just lifting as hard as I could, working as hard as I could, not doing anything media-wise. And it didn't matter. They still cut me, you know, when it came to August.

If you were playing by the rules at that point, then why? They wanted, they knew probably, you know, like as the player rep, I was going to hold them accountable to the rules. and that I was going to continue to speak out at some point if I saw something that wasn't right. What were you speaking out on at the time? Oh, you know, anything, politics. You know, I mean, I had a radio show. I would go on Fox News.

I would go on Hannity's show. They just didn't like that, especially coming from the kicking position. They wanted it. There was a new regime. They wanted a new atmosphere there. And that was their right. And, you know, God has a plan and a desire for your life. And sometimes it's not exactly the way you want it to go.

And if you believe in him and you trust them, you know, you'll wait and you'll see and those doors opened up. I ended up with the Jets and we did great. We went to AFC Championship and then brought me out to Arizona after that. But it's fun to kind of watch that process and to look back and to see how God was opening and closing doors along the way. So here's why I wanted to bring that up with both of you guys here together on set. So, Jeffrey, I can't remember the name of the sports writer at Fox Sports who I had on immediately after you. It wasn't the last time you were on a couple times before.

I know who you're talking about. He's from Oklahoma. Yes. Oh. Oh, it'll come to me, but I know here you're talking. RJ Young. Yep, that's it. And RJ knew you.

He knew you in high school. And so he was listening when you were on, and he said, on air, he goes, Jeffrey was always a serious dude. Like you could always tell. When you went into his home in high school, you could tell this guy's different. This guy has thoughts and ideas about his own career and his own life and what he wants to do, just different than a lot of high school and, for that matter, college football players. Sure. um i'm curious did is this all i know that you hit my radar post college football okay did this start during college football speaking out developing thoughts maybe even in the locker room like

were you were you doing this no no um not at all really it started after college um we talked about it kind of where it all started so before that i wasn't really paying much attention a lot of my family's Democrats. I was eating a girl at the time who was a conservative. Her family was conservative. So I would play devil's advocate and I would piss off my family and I would piss her off. Okay. Right. So we would be talking and I would want to know. I would say, what's this, what's that? Why do you think this? Why do you think that? But I didn't really have my opinions formed yet. I was just gathering data, if that makes sense. Yep. I didn't really start formulating my opinions until I got out of college, probably a year before

I started making content. Right. Because I'm always curious how that plays in the locker room. you know and it's interesting jay with you like there's all kinds of different um what is the word i'm going to look for here discrimination and you had kicker discrimination because no but it's true like i don't i'll put up with that from a receiver i'm not putting up with that from a here's the interesting thing here jephyr i think you would probably say the same thing but what it was special about being in a college football locker room or an NFL locker room the most special thing for me was that it broke down racial and economic barriers that a lot of time exist in society and allow you to have relationships and to learn things that you would never learn otherwise. You're in these locker rooms.

You develop friendships with guys that you never would have come in contact with. And because your identity, your primary identity is you're an Oklahoma football player or a Michigan football player, not a black football player or a white football player. It allowed you to have a lot of those relationships and those conversations that you could never have. in any other, you know, societal setting. You know, for me, like I roomed in the offseat or in the training camp with Lavar Arrington and Brandon Short one year, two of the, you know, baddest linebackers from Penn State, and to have those opportunities to hear about their life and their upbringing, and how that formulated their beliefs and their thoughts and their political beliefs gave me insight into why they believed what they believed. I think those are a lot of the conversations

that we just don't have now because we segregate into, you know, like-minded, thoughtful people that have the same beliefs as us or come from the same backgrounds that we come from and you never have those conversations and learn from people. And I think that's where real growth comes from. Sure. I think that's true. I mean, when I was in college, we weren't never talking about politics.

There were some black guys that thought I was stuck up, but that was really it or too good or uppity. But that was never really, there was never really hey, you're this, you're that, it was just, we got a job to do. We go to work out. We go practice. We go watch film and we do that over and over again. Man, that was really it. Like, there was no talk about politics, nor we'll talk about where you came from.

Like you said, it was just simply, we've got a job to do. We're on the same team. Let's go get it done. You know, I spent five years at ESPN, and in some ways, not exactly. And what would I know? I was never in a college or pro football locker room. But there's something about sports in general. So, like, even behind the scenes at ESPN, when we were hanging out, it was like dudes hanging out, like black dudes, white dudes, talking about sports.

And I think that what you guys were part of, and I think the military is like this, too, to some extent. is that when you take all of our superficial differences, and then they are subjugated to a common mission, that's when you really get something special going, right? Like, we look different, maybe or maybe not, but we grew up different, maybe different socioeconomics. I'm using the royal we at some point here, all these different things, but now we're here, and we're here working towards this common thing. And by the way, I think the liberal, even female mindset doesn't get this. is that it's not that, therefore, we all think we're the same, and therefore it's told kumbaya.

It actually is more liberating than that. Then you can make fun of each other about your differences. Then you can own it. And, you know, but it doesn't matter because we're moving towards this common goal. And I've often said the country should think more like a locker room. I would agree with that. I think that's a good way to put it. We just need a common mission.

Sure. That's the problem. Yeah. And you think back to some of those critical moments like 9-11. We did come together. There was a common mission. And we did put a lot of our political differences aside because we had a kind of, common enemy and it hit us at home, you know, and it lasted that way for a little while,

you know, until, you know, everything starts to go back to normal and then we segregate back into our, you know, common areas and you know what they say the best thing for humanity would be, right? A gigantic spaceship showing up over. All of a sudden we might be right. Yeah. I mean, you're right. That is a good way to put it. It makes sense. All right. I'm going to talk to Jay a little more about why he's running for Congress. I have some questions as a kicker dad. I've got some questions about kicking and we'll hit a few topics. We'll hit a few topics in the news cycle as well. We're going to hang out with Jeffrey next. We're going to talk about Gavin Newsome, looking for reparations in California. Let's get to all that with story number two.

When we come back on Wheel Can Country. All right, live coming down from Tulsa to Dallas, Texas, Jeffrey Meade, social and political, commentator who walked right in and said, what? Huh? Go ahead and you can use the language you want to use. Yeah? Yeah. You were talking a lot of shit about my heights.

I was just doubting it. It's easy over Zoom to say you're 6-5, 6-7, 7-2, whatever. What's in person say? In-person says, you're right, 6-5. Now, I don't know about that. What did you say? You bench 420? I didn't know.

No, no. No, no. We will go low-threys, high-toes. Right now, low-threes. I would say comfortably high-toes, possibly low-thres. I would say comfortably high-thus. I recently strained my AC. joint, so I don't want to say. You're lean. And you've got, stick those arms out. Look at that. You've got to

move that way to long way. I do. I do. 275, not a problem. Go ahead. Were you the strongest receiver in the receiver room? No. When I was in college, I was weak. Oh, this is post-college strength. Yeah. Okay. What did you go to college? Six, how tall were you went freshman year? Six-five. And what'd you weigh? One-80. Really? That's really skinny. Yeah, I was. What'd you run the 40? Four-five. Four-five. Probably like a mid. four or five days over there jay philip my kid's a kicker he's six five oh wow yeah 160 i think yeah how old what grade senior 17 oh wow he's yeah he's worse than me he's real it's hard to put muscle on at six five very hard especially when you're it's happening to you

yes like you're stretching things out every night you go to bed yes when did you hit your uh i'm gonna get to i'm gonna get to california gavin news soon reparations in just a minute but this is the first time I've ever met Jeffrey me in person. He's been on both shows. By the way, Jeffrey and Jay are both going to be on the Will Cain show a little bit later today. First time I met him in person. When did you, when did you hit your growth spurt? I didn't have one. I was six foot in sixth grade. Six foot in sixth grade. So then it was just kind of an inch a year type thing. Correct. Kept going, kept going. What basketball? I had offers. I just, if I'm thinking about it, it's, in my opinion, easier to go professional in football than it is basketball.

I'm 6-5, I had a 36 vertical, but that's more average than the NBA. If you look at the NFL, you don't have a lot of 6-5 receivers with 35, 36 in vertical. So you were doing this calculation in high school? Correct. Yeah? Yeah. So, RJ Young, the Fox Sports writer, the Fox Sports writer said you were always a serious dude. It's like through the recruiting process, through everything, what does that mean?

You were just thinking about your career. You were thinking, you weren't thinking necessarily, hey, who's got the hottest girls? where I'm going to have the biggest parties? No. By the way, tip for the guys. If you work hard, you become valuable, the women will come. Second off, no, I wasn't thinking. I was more thinking about how do I make money is what I was thinking about. I want to have the resources to be able to do what I want to do when I'm older,

and I don't want a lack of resources to harm me or my family or me not be able to take care of my people because I have a lack of resources. So from the age of about 16 to 17, I was thinking, how do I make money, how do I invest, how do I create, an income stream that can protect me and my family. Were you always thinking beyond football? Because you just said to me you were thinking which one is easier to go pro in, right?

So I think that the trap a lot of young athletes fall into is that becomes their income stream. Like, I'm going to be a pro athlete. And even from being a receiver at Oklahoma, your chances, the percentages are still tiny, right? Yes. So you weren't locked into that path as a way to make a career. No. No, I just saw it as a stepping stone. I essentially said I'll make a lot of money doing that and then from there I can use that income to put it into assets that will create me revenue streams and perpetuity essentially just long term income stream. So you in an early thinking I'm using this. It's not using me.

Correct. I still wanted to go. I wanted to play. But it wasn't like a this is I have to like it. It wasn't like that. It was more like I realize that this is a tool. I need to use it. It's not going to last forever. Right. It's something that'll be fun. I can infect a lot of lives, do a lot of good. But I need to come out of the end with some. something or come out of it with something in the end where I'm not coming out of it broke, essentially like a lot of athletes do. Okay, one more question on that. Do you think the fact that you had a plan B essentially made Plan A less likely? So in other words, a lot of guys who make it say they were 100% committed. Now, 100 means there's no 2% devoted to Plan B. You know what I mean?

Now, I didn't make it in that way. So all I'm doing is repeating cliches that guys say. You know, guys that make it, some don't. Do you think the fact that you were thinking about other ways to make a living or to make a life in any way took away from your ability to reach your potential in football? I think if I'm being very technical, I would say, sure, there might be a small percentage. I wouldn't say a lot because I did everything I was supposed to do. I was putting an extra time, made all my grades, was doing everything I was supposed to do, right? so I guess you can say yes to a degree but I don't know if it would have been big enough to

actually make a difference unless I transferred possibly transfer to another school correct why I just see more playing time yeah likely I think the primary reason I didn't go would just be film there wasn't a film for scouts to be like hey let's go get that guy yeah uh sorry about your loss this weekend at Oklahoma it happens dominated by a better defense a better offense and special teams and as well play calling. I love the graciousness. So does Ed. Yeah, I thought I would tweak him a little bit and get something and he just gave it to me the way it was, the truth. I'm honest. Okay. What do you think about this? Let's move into some of the stuff on the news. So Gavin Newsom, who's clearly, I think, running for president, governor of California, has

pushed forward and approved a slavery reparations agency in California. Now, we have talked at various times about, like, literally mathematically, how is this going to work? How can they afford it. How are you going to identify people eligible for reparations? It all defies any sense of logic. Sure. But it also should be pointed out California never had slaves. Correct. Now, I know people migrate, so that's legit, but, you know, in theory, Californians were never slaves and Californians never owned slaves. So that means, again, in theory, that you're paying people who never own slaves or pay people who are the ancestors of people that never own slaves are paying something to the people the ancestors of people who never were slaves yeah i mean i think it's a

waste of time energy and resources like why are we have a bunch of things we could be focused on that are more productive than that and a lot of it and i think it was 2021 and black americans had more spending power in 2021 than ever in the history of our existence and in that time we decreased our networks We got more money, and we decreased our net worth. So if you're giving out reparations and we're talking about cash, what is that going to do? Unless people have an idea of how to handle that money and know what to do with it, they're likely going to end up worse off than they were to begin with. So it's not really about being productive because if it was, they'd be talking about,

okay, teaching people the things they need to know with money so they can actually be productive with it. Instead, it's more so virtue signaling, in my opinion, and doing something that's not really productive. It's also just, how are they, they're going to have an advisory, board a panel this is how they're going to do it okay and i bet it's going to be very gross like who gets it and who doesn't you know who's the famous commentator that um she's black and she did one of those 23 and me's or dna and she did it on tv or maybe there's a PBS tv show and she found out that her family owned slaves so does she pay herself does she receive or does she pay that's a good question maybe it's both and then it just cancels out so she doesn't get anything right and i look there's one thing

that I've lived with my entire life as one of the big principles, and it's the principle of agency. An agency is incredibly empowering. When you start realizing, honestly, the ability to take blame, assume blame, assume responsibility. It empowers you to then correct things and do things. And I can think of nothing more victimizing and robbing people of agency than something like this. You are taking from people according to something that happened that had nothing to do with their agency and giving to people by virtue of something that had nothing to do with their agency. Correct. And I think it also, again, it takes away from that with agency. I talk about accountability and decision making. And I literally tell people in the videos and stuff I talk about,

I'm like, your life is nothing but an accumulation of the decisions you've made up until this point. So if you stack good decision on top of good decision on top of good decision, you're going to get a good result. But I think talking about reparations and giving people free money for stuff they never went through actually works against that aspect. And you're not actually telling people and showing them, hey, you need to be accountable for what you're doing. Because once you do have that agency and you take accountability, call it, there's a book by Jocko Willink. Extreme ownership.

Thank you. Extreme ownership. Yes. That's what I think. I think if people adopt that, you actually do empower yourself to make better decisions, and you will continue to make better decisions because you will be accountable to yourself compared to blaming it on the white man history, the system. Everything is your fault.

So therefore, you've got to make something right. If you're going to, if everything is your fault, you're going to look at making things correct because it's right you not something else right yeah yeah victimhood is a cancer it eats you alive i mean it can absolutely kill your ability to make a change in your own life 100% i think it does i think that's the biggest reason at this point i think that's the biggest reason black americans has a whole struggle not because of history i think that played a part in it and mentalities have carried over from that and they haven't actually adapted to where the world is today so many black Americans are operating with software that's outdated for a lack of better term, if that makes

sense. They're still operating in 50 years ago thinking when we're now in 2025 and that actually has them behind the rest of the other races and how they're doing things because they're viewing it from an outdated lens. Okay, I want to ask you, Jeffrey's a very popular social and political commentator on TikTok, Instagram, and X, and I want to go through some things that are in the news with you, but now you've opened a conversation that I find fascinating. So, Um, that mindset, which you just described, is very popular, though. Mm-hmm. It is the predominant mindset culturally driving decision-making, at least on a macro level.

I can't speak to personal level, but a macro level. Sure. In black America. It's very popular. Um, why? It's convenient for one. And I think, again, it comes down to a lot of, in a lot of black communities, you listen to your elders and you don't question and you do what you're told. right and that's good for the concept of respect but a lot of older black Americans dealt with

things that younger black Americans don't deal with anymore so if you think about that they have racial experiences that they've internalized and that they're still hanging on to and they project that onto the younger generation the younger generation then internalizes that and believes that and may operate from that belief system when it's no longer uh relevant I guess is the best way to that's a good word I was curious what order you're going to choose because you know I used to have these conversations on ESPN, and the one thing that, and I'm sure your answer to me is going to be yes. Like, you've dealt with racism in your life. Somewhere, somehow, sometime.

Yes? Yes. But to hear you describe it, that's not relevant. Would that, how you describe the fact that that's been a part of your life? Like, no, it's a, it's a mistake to say that the United States of 2025 is the same as the United States of 1950. Okay? 100%. It's not even close.

No. The mindset, the popular culture, the way people interact. Nothing. But you can't take that so far as to say racism doesn't exist. Correct. And so the difference in these two, the delta in these two experiences, I hear you described as a lack, a reduction in relevance to one's life. Yes. Like, yeah, there are things racist. I've had racist experiences high school after, but it's not enough to where I can say it's actively affecting my life unless I give it the power to do that. Right. So, yeah, like, at one point was eight and a girl, parents were like, hey, can't date because you're black, white girl. right um okay whatever to so oklahoma right yeah yeah um move on whatever right so yeah i mean i think again we're putting too much energy towards being a victim and past ideologies that are outdated

compared to saying hey i can go do this i can go do that because there's nothing holding you can do i can do anything you can go do nothing holding me back there's no law stopping me from doing it but instead of taking that and saying hey we're going to go out here and do something we're still hanging on because again if you're a victim you don't have to take accountability for the fact that you're choosing to play 2K for four hours. You don't have to take accountability for the fact that you're not working out. You can say, you know, I'm fat because I'm racist. I mean, because the system's racist and it's putting extra stress on me and all these things.

Right. So it is a good way for people not to take accountability. But again, I think it goes back to older people internalizing what happened to them in the past. Go ahead. I'm just curious. Don't ever let me interrupt you when I'm doing that. I told a friend of this the other day. I said, yeah, I got this guy Jeffrey Mead that comes on my show.

And I've been doing this for so long. that I can listen and think at the same time. Meaning, like, I do think one of the things that sets me apart is I listen. I listen. Like, I'm listening with shit. But I have the ability to listen and think, oh, I want to go here next. Okay. Filing things.

Sure. You were the hardest guy I've ever interviewed to predict. Like, you can almost get people's rhythms of when they're going to stop talking. And so if I'm a slightly, slightly thinking about what I might think about with you, I'm like, you just stopped talking. I can't, I can't predict when you land your plane. Your plane drops in like an offspray. Sometimes, like, it doesn't have a runway.

You just drop it onto the runway. You land in the plane, but I'm like, oh, my God, that's my turn. So don't let me interrupt you ever. No worries. Now I don't even remember what I was going to say. Was it a question about the older generation, how they think, about younger generations with accountability? Was it about the culture of the U.S. as a whole and how it treats black people? Anything like that?

Yeah, but that's so big, Jeffrey. It's so big. It'll come back. I'll figure it. In the meantime, let's do this. Okay, I have a couple of things I want to get with you. Dan Rather. Are you too young to remember Dan Rather?

No, I know I was going to ask you. You said you didn't get political until after college. I'm curious who influenced you? First person I would say influenced me was probably where I can think of was Ben Shapiro in a pencil factory video, kind of debating capitalism versus like socialism or communism. The thing about how you make a pencil? Yeah, and the erasing. That's Milton Friedman. He took it.

Yeah, I can't give Ben that. Bryn's brilliance, but that's a Milton Friedman thing. Like, no single one person has the expertise to build a pencil. Sure. That what it was? Kind of. It's the accumulation of human knowledge. The tin or the aluminum in the that holds the eraser on, the person that makes the eraser, the wood, the lead.

That's all different human expertise developed over time. Everyone being good. No one person had the ability to go from nothing. But it was saying it was more of who deserves the value that's created after everything has done. The capitalist who took all the race to get the machinery and everything or the. the employee who is there because they can stick a piece of graphite in a piece of wood. Like that's kind of what he was talking about. Like everyone should get it.

And he's like, you know, the people who took all the risk up front should get the majority of the profit. Right. I think is what it was. Right. I love him. Love him. I wondered if he would be somebody that you said was part of that. Yes.

Love Thomas Soul. Yeah. Thomas Soul, Ben. There's a, um, those are the primary two I would think off the top, just off the top of my head. Well, quick. That's a good question. I'll have to get back to you on that. Okay.

All right. I'll hold my breath. Okay, Dan Rather, before your time, he was the... Do you know the Dan Rather? No clue. Seriously? No clue. We should play a game of, like, what Jeffrey doesn't know because he's so young.

Yeah, you know Dan Rather, right? I can't believe he does it. Right. Especially since he's so intelligent. Do you know who Walter Cronkite is? Nope. No idea? Nope.

Tom Brokaw? Nope. Peter Jennings? Nope. Okay, these were Titans of the Nightly News back in the day. Okay, so Walter Cronkaw? It's the guy that took his glasses off. You know when JFK has killed, you've ever seen the clip?

And he says, he looks at the clock and he says after so-and-so, John F. Kennedy is dead. Okay. These guys were Titans because back then that's how you got your news, right? Sure. Six o'clock tuned into the NBC, ABC, CBS broadcast. And then the next generation that inherited it was Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings at ABC, Tom Brokow's NBC, and Dan Rather was CBS. Okay.

So for, I'd say, 30 years? 30 years, Dan Rather was the man. who, like, I don't know if he was number one, I think Brokaw was, but a lot of America went to bed, didn't go to bed, sat down for dinner and here's what happened in America today. Okay. He got fired because he lied about President Trump's service records. He's a big live.

They all are. Okay. Right. So he's now mad because Bari Weiss, who founded the free press, sent her right, is now the editor-in-chief at CBS News. Okay. So he says, it's a dark day for America. That's his exact quote.

And then I got to thinking, and we were like, Dan Rather, what does he report on? I want to show you a clip of Dan Rather from, I believe, this is going to be roughly 1978. All right, so listen and watch this. Concern about rising temperatures on planet Earth heated up a hearing here in Washington today. For years, scientists have theorized about the dangers of the so-called greenhouse effect, the warming of the earth's atmosphere due to the burning of coal and oil. And in recent months, as David Colhane reports, research has uncovered facts to support that theory. 1982 Jeffrey he is talking about the green look at us sharing that earpiece together so

cute um 1982 he um he's predicting the climate change existential threat to humanity and to life going to lose the shorelines in florida we're going to be underwater this has been going now for 40 or 50 years and it's interesting that this is the place of respectability it's a dark day in america as barry weiss is the new editor in chief of um of of CBS news and he got away with stuff like this. Not only got away with it, they continued to repeat it for the past 40 to 50 years.

What is your question? Not to your thoughts. You've got to be on your game with this guy. I mean, here's what I think of initially is more of when he says it's a dark day for America. I mean, the same thing with Democrats talking about when you hear them say it's a threat to our democracy. Again, I always tell people to replace the word democracy

with Democrats' political power. When they're saying that it's a threat to our democracy, it's a dark day for our democracy. It's a dark day for Democrats' political power. It's a threat to their political power. That's essentially what it means. Yeah. And climate change, the reason I wanted to ask you about that,

and I played it, is also it's just that climate change has been a Trojan horse for almost 40 or 50 years now. It's been a Trojan horse for the accumulation of power. And it's built upon the hubris that man can actually control the thermostat of the earth. I don't doubt that we affect it in some way. Sure. But it's full of hubris that we are the ones that are capable of turning up or turning down exactly what happens on this planet. And the fact that they've made these predictions for 40 or 50 years and they've always been wrong reveals the game.

That it's about policy and politics as a Trojan horse for power. I can see that actually I saw something interesting on X today. This is kind of related but off topic. I've been seen a lot of anti-Israel hate on X, like a lot of it. and someone said the pro-Palestinian cause is a Trojan horse for becoming a leftist

and that made me think I don't know if it's true yet you did something like that yes and it made me think is it because it could be right I'm not sure if it will be I think time will tell but I'm seeing a lot of people

who are so busy hitting Israel that they're running terrorist I mean running cover for terrorists and helping actually spread terrorist ideology and legitimize it and I think that's a line we need to be careful of because, again, I see a lot of people say they're anti-Israel, anti-Israel, okay, you don't like Israel, but don't let your hate for Israel blinds you

or lead you into supporting terrorism. Does that make sense what I'm saying? So I think we need to be careful about that because that also could be a Trojan horse into legitimizing terrorism as a legitimate way of doing things and that ideology expanding in the U.S. and I think we need to fight against it. Well, I think two things. I saw the same post, and I think that post was warning against a lot of people on the right. Yes. Not the left. Yes. On the right about over what over sympathizing over championing the cause of Palestinians that it is that it is a gateway drug yes because there's a I'm telling you I've there's so much anti-Israel hate on the

right right now I know surprised me on X I was like where's this coming from I think it's coming from Candace that's probably what drove it but I'm like where's this is coming from so I think it's something to pay attention to and the other thing about political or terrorism as a legitimate political tool I mean the 1970s that was a thing that was probably Probably we would have seen it more in our lives than any of us, even me being older than you, but even in my age. But it does seem more popular now than ever. Like, I think in the 70s, you had Carlos the Jackal, and you had, you had Middle Eastern terrorists, hijacking planes, and that kind of thing. But I don't think your common leftist would have gone good stuff.

No. You know? No. And right now, it's a little, it's pretty popular. Yeah. It's concerningly popular. Yeah. Right?

Yeah. Yeah, but that also, with the permission structure for violence and the left is seemingly becoming more and more okay with political violence. I don't think those things are, I think they're somewhat combined. I don't think they're separate. Yeah. I think they kind of play into each other. But yeah, it's definitely something to be paying attention to. Last thing, so I want to ask you about this, is somewhat tied, but this is a crime.

So Mark Benioff, who's a billionaire, is contributed to Democrats a ton throughout his career. He has now said, he said this weekend, that he would love to see President Trump's in the National Guard. into San Francisco. Pretty wild, right? Contributed Democrats in the past. So you've got two narratives competing against itself in America. You've got those who see President Trump's Diploma of the National Guard as the precursor for authoritarian state, you know, otherizing brown people, other rising blue states or blue cities, and some have gone so far as to say, going to circumvent a 2028 election because of the deployment of the National Guard. And then you've got others that live in these cities and live in these conditions and walk through the tenderloin in San Francisco or live in the south side of Chicago and they want to see the help of President Trump.

And even though some of those on the left, at least in the case of Mark Benioff here. And it's kind of interesting, I'm not going to have a pointed question, so don't prepare for a pointed question. It's interesting, though, it seems to me the differentiating factor is those that have bought into. the dystopian propaganda yeah but yeah propaganda and they believe it like they think they are living in the handmade's tale yeah and they're not

they're not I mean it's it's Trump derangement syndrome at one of its highest levels is what I would say like thinking about it looking at it they're talking about okay we're going to use a national guard to help cut down on crime what is the problem but they've convinced themselves that Trump is so evil orange racist and bad that it can't be for actual crime it's got to be because

he's trying to get stuff ready and have you know soldiers at the ballot boxes and 2026 to make sure that Republicans win and this, that, and the other. They just make things up. Right. So, yeah, I mean, I think it's Trump derangement syndrome and they've convinced themselves of delusional things. And the problem is, is that they live in an echo. They like echo chambers. They don't like, they say they like diversity, but they hate diversity of thought. For example, when Elon took over X, Elon isn't censoring liberals. He's not doing that. But what they did is they got blue sky and they all ran over to Threads. Threads is a liberal cesspool. Right. So

because they want their echo chamber. So they sit in their echo chamber, and then they just hype themselves up and convince themselves that everything they're saying is right, even though it's delusional. I saw you. You were on an airplane. You posted your plague against Iowa State. Oh, you saw that? Oh, yeah, man, I saw it. It was nice.

It was decent. It was a little hook route. Then you hooked around again the other way. And then you, no, it was two spins. Double spin. Yeah. To the house. Yeah.

That's kind of a cool experience. I got back on the plane. I was actually on ESP and Top 10, and, like, seeing yourself right behind LeBron was like, that's kind of different. That's kind of different. All right, man. I'm really glad you're in Dallas. You're going to be on the Will Kane show a little bit later today. I appreciate you being down here.

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Visit Ancestry.ca for more details. Terms apply. know right away. I didn't know his name. I just loved his videos. And so I ran back to, I'm like, is that same guy? Pulled up and texted him. I'm like, oh, yeah, it is. Jay Feely hanging out with us here on Wilcane Country, which you get every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern Time at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page, which you can follow us on Spotify and on Apple. Jay was just hanging out. They were on together, and then you said you didn't realize when you were talking to him who it was.

First of all, I didn't know that he was a football player. I had no idea. I just loved his videos and the way he articulates his beliefs and how thoughtful, non-emotive that he is. And so I love sending those videos out to different family friends who I know like I've had conversations. Hey, here's a different thought coming from a different perspective, you know, and they've been super effective in getting people to think about issues. So he does a great job. Yeah, Jeffrey's really done a great job, which we just had Jeffrey Mead here on the show. Check him out. It's on TikTok, on Instagram, X, everywhere, all his stuff. Okay, let's start here. So, Jay, 14 years in the NFL, very, very successful, kicking career.

Post career, you've been broadcasting? 10 years. 10 years broadcasting. Yeah, so why do you want to run for Congress? My wife asked me that question all the time. Now, she's actually been, you know, very supportive and kind of pushing me. For the last three years during broadcasting, she would ask me, hey, is this God's plan for you? Is this his desire for your life?

And to be honest, I would get kind of frustrated with her. I'm like, I love what I'm doing. Like, it's fun to do this broadcasting job. I only have to do it for five months of the year. I get seven months off completely. It pays really well. You know, and I love doing it. So stop asking me that.

But, you know, when President Trump got shot, that was the day that I really started thinking about doing something different. You know, and if he was willing to continue to fight for our country and put himself in jeopardy and willingly put himself in jeopardy when he doesn't have to do it, he's already been president. He's a billionaire. Like, he can go off and live his life and not worry. about anything, I started just asking myself that. Like, what am I willing to sacrifice? And am I doing something that God wants me to do or am I just doing what I selfishly want to do? And, you know, I got to the point where I'm like, no, I need to do something with more meaning that has greater impact. And I'm idealist. I don't know that I can have the impact that I think I can have

when it comes to politics. But now so more than ever after Charlie Kirk was shot and killed. And that was a heartbreaking moment for my wife and I and so many around the country. We need more people in political office that are willing to have those hard conversations that can communicate effectively, you know, especially on the conservative side. I think so often we have the right policies and the right beliefs, we don't often have the right messenger. And we need more people that can communicate and do it effectively. So you're running as a Republican, Andy Biggs current seat. Andy is running for governor of Arizona. So do you ever think about the fact like congressional approval rating is what?

Is it below 20% now? I think it is. It's pretty low. Yeah. And part of that is because it is so difficult to get things done. Now, sometimes I think that game is a little rigged. Like the Constitution itself is designed to make it hard to get things done. Like legislation and the growth of government and government's involvement in different aspects. The growth of government? Well, they found a way to get around that, didn't they? They did find that, yeah. But it should be hard to make new laws.

It should be hard to integrate the government into your life more and more. So in a way, the bug is part of the feature of the system. But it is dysfunctional, and, you know, the public knows it. So you've been involved in functional environments for much of your career when it comes to team sports and the NFL. You laugh at that. Maybe not always sometimes functional. I can tell you a lot of stories about dysfunction as well. But, you know, we need people who are going to go into office who have been successful already in their lives that don't need political office.

We have so many self-serving congressmen and women who go in there, stay in there. All they care about is getting reelected. They grow their net worth, they grow power, they accumulate, and they do it for themselves. They don't do it for this country. They don't do it for their constituents. And when I looked at, you know, the path, you know, starting with BLM and, you know, how I thought destructive that was to our country, the fabric of our country and how hypocritical it was when, you know, we're going to shut down individual businesses and say, you can't make money and you might go bankrupt as a result, but we're going to allow BLM riots to take place and go and destroy those actual businesses as well. you know, and then you fast forward to all the stuff going on with the transgender movement, how, you know, disgusting that is, and men playing in women's sports.

And then for me, coming from the economical side, when I look at our debt and the fact that we're at 37 trillion growing at a trillion every hundred days, that our interest on our debt alone is over a trillionaire. It's more than our defense budget. You know, and no one has the willingness to take that on. I just think we need more people that are going there for the right reasons and that don't care if they succeed long term. My goal is not to go there and for it to be a career. My goal is to go there and have an impact and effectuate change. You laughed when I said functional and you've

had, I guess, dysfunctional and functional environments that felt. So what's the difference? Leadership and a willingness to put something, be committed to something greater than yourselves. The most dysfunctional environments I was in were all selfish. You know, when I look at Democrat Party in those policies, they're very selfish, you know, and they don't talk about the greater good for everyone. Well, that's the opposite of what they would say about themselves. They would say they're the empathetic party, the empathetic mindset, and the Republicans are the ones looking out for themselves. But when you look at the actual policies and the things that they try to do, you know, you're just talking to Jeffrey, you know, about the virtual signaling and, you know,

the victim mentality, that does not help people. That doesn't have, you look at the black family and the way that has been destroyed over the last, you know, 70, 80 years since the civil rights movement. It hasn't helped them to create a victim mentality and to have them dependent on government. You know, what helps them is to create those equal opportunities and those pathways to success. The problem is you can't control outcomes, so you can't control equity. So players that were selfish and a coach that didn't have leadership? That's exactly right. And I, and as we're talking about, I'm thinking about those exact teams. You know, we went, which ones were? We went one in 15 in Miami. We had a lot of talent on that team. You know, we didn't win close games early and then it

totally fell apart, you know, because guys were selfish and they weren't focused on the greater good. And, you know, there's just so many examples for me of that. And I think you see it in all walks of life. There's businesses that you see the exact same thing. Guy comes in, he's a CEO. He doesn't do a good job. You know, he creates a hostile atmosphere and nobody wants to work for him. And, you know, I think when we look at government, what is government's role? It's to create economic pathways for everyone to success. It, you know, it shouldn't be about, you know, whether somebody who's really rich and a billionaire succeeds, that doesn't

ever bother me. I look at somebody. I'm like, great, good for you. But I want to make sure that we have those pathways for everyone to succeed. And, you know, and what is it about pro athletes in politics these days? I mean, there's you. Mark Tashara, is running for Congress.

Last week I had Derek Dooley, who was the head coach. Tommy Tuberville. Tommy Tuberville. Derek Duley's running for Senate in Georgia. Why so many athletes interested in politics? I think what we're saying, you know, when we look at committing yourself to a greater good, first, you know, all four of us have been very blessed with athletics. And I think if you have the right mindset, you believe that with those blessings, you know, comes an obligation to try to utilize it to help other people. And that's my wife and I. Like our heart has always been a heart of service.

We've tried to engage in our community, have an impact on people, and try to help people. and I think that's natural to go from if you had success in sports probably that's your mentality because you do have to have a team first mentality and you do have to have good leadership. And so it's natural to say I'm going to use those blessings and try to get into government and try to help fix it and be part of the solution and not just sit on the sidelines because it'd be very easy for my wife and I'd just say, you know what? I don't want to get involved in politics. We'll go up.

We'll stay at our lake house four months of the year when it's hot in Arizona and we'll just love our life and enjoy our grandkids and we can do that. But I just feel like this time and this season in life for us is about trying to have a positive impact and try to leave this country better for my grandkids rather than just sitting selfishly and enjoy them. Okay, I want to ask you about a couple of things in the new cycle. But first, let's take a minute and talk about kicking. Do you like the new kickoffs? Well, by the way, your son's 6'5. Why is he just, you know, there's really more punting than kicking?

He does that body type. Yeah, he does both. Oh, for sure. It's much harder to be a kicker when you're taller. There's not many kickers that are really tall. Is that because of, you've got to repeat the same motion over and over and it's harder when it's longer? Think about like golfers, too. You don't see a lot of, you know, 6, 7, 6, 8 golfers that are really good.

Right. You know, you got guys that are 6 foot like Rory McElroy, you know, and that size because you can control it better. And the same thing with kicking. But height can help punting? Yeah, the leverage, absolutely, because you're bringing that leg up. You want to generate as much power as possible. Right. Punty is also easier because you don't have to deal with missing a game-winning kick.

You hit three good ones. You have one bad one. Okay, you had a good game. It doesn't hold true for kicking. What's the economics? Are punters making less than kickers? Yeah, they do. A little, but not much.

So it's not worth it. That's not worth it. Yeah. That's right. So, well, okay, well, let's go to this. What do you make of these guys kicking these 65-yarders? It's unbelievable. Your career long, your career long, right? That's right.

Sixty-one. But they're doing it in the first quarter of games. You know, I mean, Brandon Aubrey is just unbelievable, and he didn't even grow up doing it. I was playing golf with a few kickers. It was a four-sum. of all NFL kickers, I think we had like 6,000 points between us. And the four of us were amazed at how good they are now. We're like, thank goodness we played when we did because we get fired now.

Is it really that they've gotten better? Because I don't buy that near as much because we paid our ball boys to go in there and to develop them and rub them in and make sure that they were really good. So when I ended kicking, the balls were pretty good. I don't think that has an impact. As much as I do, you can now go at 10 years old and get the right. training. When I was growing up, there was none. That's not. That's not. That's not why he's such a unicorn and so special, and I'm just

so blown away watching him. Yeah. So I don't know what the long is now. Like, I'm a Cowboy fan, so I watch him in particular, but sometimes when they're on the 45, their own 45, the wrong side of the field. I'm like, let him try. I don't know what's too long for him. Somebody will make a 70-yarder, for sure. There's no doubt about that. And then continuing to push it back. I mean, it's pretty spectacular. That's going to put punters out of business. That's right. Because then you're just like, yeah, as long as you're not backed up,

you know, I mean, it's just, it's special to see what they're doing, because I know how hard it is and how easy they make it look. So what about the kickoffs? So the new kickoff rule, do you like this? I was not a fan of it. Just from looking at it, I didn't like the way, you know, the pause. But it did accomplish what the NFL was trying to accomplish, which was to reduce injuries, in particular, you know, the concussions on kickoff.

And it kept the kickoff in the game. And that was the question was, do they just eliminate kickoffs and start at the 25 and give the offense the ball? So because they kept the kickoff in the game, I was a fan of it. Now, the rule this year is much better. You've seen a lot more returns because they moved it up five yards. And now there's an incentive to not kick touchbacks and to make guys return the ball. And you're seeing that, which I think it's getting exciting. The new thing with the dirty kick, to bounce it, see if they fumble the ball.

now it's kind of exciting. You know, I was a guy who loved to go down there and hit. You know, so, like, I would have enjoyed this. Like, that was my fun. You know, kicking was my job. I had to go out there and make field goals. That was going to determine whether or not I stayed on the team and stayed employed. But going down there and hitting somebody, especially when they didn't block me, like, that was a lot of fun.

Okay, two more questions on this. What's your favorite year of your career? Well, my senior year at Michigan, we won the national championship. And I met my wife at the beginning of that season. so it was a pretty magical season. You know, but my favorite year was actually 2005, and I was with the Giants, and it was the worst moment of my career.

You know, I missed three game-winning kicks at the end of a game, one at the end of the game, two, and overtime for the Giants. Saturday Night Live does a spoof about me called the Jay Feeley Story, the long ride home. It's like four minutes of Dane Cook playing me, what it was like to ride back on the plane from Seattle, back to New York. You know, and they're just crushing me in New York all week,

and then, you know, we go to Philadelphia, I got another game winner in overtime at Philadelphia. I know if I miss this kick, my career is probably going to be over. The night before the game was the Saturday Live clip. And so you have to discipline yourself to not allow your mind to wander in those moments. And I was able to make the kick. And for me, I was such a better kicker after that. Like before that, those misses and the Saturday Night Live clip,

I was just an average kicker in the NFL, just good enough not to get fired. After that game, I was one of the better kickers in the NFL the next nine years. And I didn't miss another game winner the next nine years. And I think it was because I failed as bad as I could fail and it didn't break me. And that allowed me to go out there and have a lot more fun and to not fear failure so much. It's such a mental thing. You said this to me when we were out there before we came on air. And it seems obvious. I mean, there are guys who, and you brought up Blair Walsh. There's a couple of Cowboys kickers. It seemed like absolutely the best in the league

and the next thing they're gone. I don't see him anymore. Closers in baseball, same thing. You see that sometimes. Remember Mitch Williams gives up the home runs

and he's one of the best closers in the league. And sometimes those critical failures sometimes, you know, you can't overcome them. For me, it freed me to go have more fun and to enjoy myself. And, you know,

I was like a 12-year-old kid let go on the, you know, in warm-ups. I was catching punts and running pat and goes and just having a great time. And I played better because of that. But it holds true in our life, too. you know it holds true in broadcasting if you're afraid of failing you're going on air you're not

going to be near as good for me too careful and you're not going to just be yourself and so it helped me certainly in broadcasting and it holds true in business you know so many people get to the cusp of their dreams and then they pull back because they're afraid of failure you know what might happen if they fail so they never really risk failure so they never achieve greatness do you have that movie um for love of the game kevin costner yeah love that game okay he goes on the mound and he says clear the mechanism right and all of a sudden the crowd goes away and everything disappears but the strike zone was what would you do you go out there they're going to ice you maybe they're not going to ice you like how do you put it all out of

your mind so me it was occupying your mind so it couldn't wander because your mind wants to think about all the implications of what you're doing like if I miss this kick I'm going to get fired we're going to pull the kids out of school we're going to have to sell the home like those are all real things you know but you can't let your mind think about those or even the positive I make this kick you know I make the pro bowl and then I'm going to get a new contract and you have to focus for me I just focused on the fundamentals and I kind of repeated them to myself head down lock my ankle follow through and I would repeat that over and over and so it was tangible things that was going to help me succeed in the moment but it was not allowing my mind to

think about all the implications that I didn't want it to think about as well sounds like golf head down yeah exactly okay so you're running for office in Arizona let's talk about what's going on so first of all the government is shut down as we speak um Jake Tapper had a moment of clarity and honesty this weekend. When he had a Democratic politician on, and he pointed out, every way we've ever covered a government shutdown in the past would point to blame at you Democrats. Watch Jake Tapper. So you're blaming the Republicans for the shutdown, but in point of fact, it's the Democrats in the Senate who are refusing to vote for the clean continuing resolution to fund the government for seven weeks. I mean, just as a point of fact,

The way that we have always covered shutdowns is that the party that is not voting for the CR, the continuing resolution to fund the government, is the party that is blocking the government funding and is responsible for the shutdown. That's how we did it the last time in 2018, 2019. That's the time we did before that during the... All right, he pointed out that every time we've done this in the past 2017, 2018, the party not funding the continuing resolution. A clean CR is the one we blame.

That's you, Democrats. Yeah, and they know it, but they're going to lie to the American people and they're going to try to leverage the American people to get things that they couldn't get passed in the one big, beautiful bill, because they lost, you know, the presidency, they lost the Senate and they lost the House. You know, and they did the same thing for four years when President Biden was in office with the border. They kept telling the American people, we can't do anything about illegal immigration until we pass a bill. The reality was they just didn't have the desire and the will to protect the American people. And I think about families that lost somebody to fentanyl and the 100,000 or so deaths we had a year. You know, people who lost family members or had family members raped by illegal. And the willingness of Democrats to put politics in front of the protection of American people,

you see it again now with this bill, you know, and the hypocrisy that exists in the party, you know, has no end. You know, and they continue to put their own politics and their desires for power in front of the American people. and I think it's evident, I think if you look at it and you see it. All right, another big race that everybody's looking at is governor of Virginia and attorney general of Virginia. Jay Jones is running for attorney general is the man who's fantasized about shooting his political opponent and the death of his opponent's children. Winsom Sears, who is running for governor as a Republican, is running against Abigail Spanberger. They just had a debate, and she pressed Spanberger on her unwillingness to pull her endorsement from Jay Jones. she's running an ad. It seems to be devastating. Watch.

Would it take him pulling the trigger? Is that what would do it? And then you would say he needs to get out of the race? Abigail? You have nothing to say? Abigail. What if he said it about your two children, your three children? Is that when you would say he should get out of the race, Abigail? You're running to be governor. Ms. Earl Sears. I mean, we're talking about murder. or we're talking about someone's life being taken from them. Have you nothing to say about that? It is pretty devastating ad. Spamberger's unwillingness to make eye contact with Earl Sears

and a little smile in the corner of her mouth the entire time she's being questioned on this. It seems like a pretty basic level thing. Why is it hard to say, no, that's abhorrent, and no one should say that even in private text messages, and, you know, and no, he shouldn't be in the highest office in that state as the AG. You know, and because of partisan politics, the unwillingness to say, especially when we think about Charlie Kirk being murdered, you know, and you think about all the things that led up to that, and you think about President Trump and the two assassination plots, you know, attempts at

his life to try to kill him and how close he was to being murdered as well because of the rhetoric of the left because they're saying he's Hitler and they're the Gestapo Isis. And we saw an attempt on ICE agents as well. And it's disgusting to me that again, Democrats are unwilling to put the protection of Americans at the forefront of their beliefs instead of politics. But that's what they do. And, you know, this whole, this whole thing on illegal immigration and ICE, you know, I was having a conversation, Will, a few weeks ago with some former NBA players And I listened for like 10 minutes as they railed against President Trump and ICE and what they were doing. And then I said, how many guys voted for Barack Obama?

And every one of them did. I said, how many of you were against Barack Obama's immigration policies? And not one of them was. I said, do you know that they're very similar to President Trump's? He deported over 3 million illegal aliens, 60% of which without due process. And over 60% were not criminals. You know, and you look at the numbers with President Trump. I think he's deported about 400,000.

and he has deported more criminals than Barack Obama did, and he's given more due process than Barack Obama did. And so the argument that he's doing something that now is illegal and that it's abhorrent, it doesn't hold water. It's completely hypocritical because no one on the left said anything about Barack Obama when he was president. They didn't say he was racist. They didn't say that ICE was a Gestapo.

They allowed him to do what he wanted to do, and he talked about it often, how it was so important for this country and the success of this country and why borders were important and why you had to go about it the legal way but no one on the left had a problem with Barack Obama but because it's President Trump, they do. All right, running for Congress from Arizona

where can people find out more information? Jay Feely for Congress.com, go on there. We're all over the valley. The response has been amazing so far and I'm having a lot of fun having those conversations and I think you have to have a willingness to have those hard conversations and talk to people, even people who disagree with you.

Sure, of course. Best of luck, Jay. He's going to hang out. He's going to be on the Will Cain show a little bit later on the Fox News channel. That's going to do it for us today here on Will Cain Country. We'll be back tomorrow. Again, same time, same place. Check us out, Wilcane Country, YouTube, Spotify, or Apple.

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