Will Cain Country - Trump Haters Can’t Deny Major Trump Win: Peace in the Middle East (ft. Sen. John Kennedy)

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Story 1: Hamas and Israel have agreed to start putting President Trump’s 20-point peace plan in motion, and even CNN had to admit it was an impressive accomplishment for someone that they typically... lambaste at every opportunity. Will reacts to the media coverage of the peace deal and goes over the history of failed peace deals in the Middle East. Story 2: Senator John Kennedy (R-LA), Author of ‘How To Test Negative For Stupid', joins Will to give his thoughts on the Israel-Hamas peace deal, explaining just how big of a deal it will be if successful. America's most quotable senator also goes over his journey from aspiring high school basketball player to a United States Senator and shares some wisdom he learned along the way. Story 3: Will and The Crew dive into the fatal traffic accident that College Football star and NFL hopeful Kyren Lacy, who wound up committing suicide shortly after the incident, was accused of causing. Will explains how sloppy reporting turned the narrative into one of racist cops and eyewitnesses, despite none of the facts suggesting that was the case. In ‘Final Takes,’ Will and The Crew unpack Bill Belichick’s rumored departure from UNC, and end with a conversation on the ethics of using a shock collar after a clip of streamer Hasan Piker allegedly shocking his dog made the rounds on social media.     Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠   Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@willcainnews)   Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠@WillCain  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:24 That would be a good thing, right? Right, MSNBC? Two, how to test negative for stupid with Senator John Kennedy. Three, Kyron Lacey investigated and charged with vehicular homicide before taking his own life. ESPN says he was persecuted for his race by the police in Louisiana. New video comes out and shows there need to be some apologies and have been. On ESPN. It is Will Kane Country on this Thursday. We're so glad to have you with us today,
Starting point is 00:02:13 where we start the program with your moment of Zen. We start the program with where we left off yesterday. We start the program with the biggest monster in politics. We start the program with Katie Porter. And the state could lose. Boy, get out of my shot. I wanted to tell you that that's actually incorrect.
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Starting point is 00:04:15 and there will be more videos coming out about Katie Porter because you can't have a 65% staff turnover rate and think all those people are ready to sing the praises of the would-be Democrat for governor. There's got to be more videos, more upset people left or right, who've walked away going, man, she is a... And that means there's going to be more videos.
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Starting point is 00:05:43 Let's get into the rest of our day with story number one. Peace in the middle. Middle East, Hamas, has accepted the 20-point plan put forward by President Donald Trump. Reports are all hostages will be released within 72 hours. All hostages released from Gaza. Along with that, the IDF will withdraw to negotiated and predetermined borders. A council will be set up, a governing council, with representation from almost all Arab partners, Israel, the United States to look over the future of Gaza. This is absolutely incredible.
Starting point is 00:06:30 The note was handed to President Trump yesterday during an almost two-hour-long roundtable on Antifa that he was conducting, along with conservative influencers and reporters who have had firsthand looks at Antifa, many of those friends of and guests of Wilcane Country, Jack Posobic, Savannah Hernandez, Nick Sorter, and many others yesterday. telling the president about their experiences with Antifa. In the midst of that, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, in an almost 9-11 Bushian moment, steps forward, leans down,
Starting point is 00:07:04 and whispers to President Trump handing him a piece of paper. He is telling the president that he needs to wind it up, he needs to put out a truth social, and he needs to come oversee what looks to be a certain peace deal agreed upon by Hamas. This is something that has been worked on and defied. administration after administration for almost 80 years, whether or not that president's name is Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton or George W. Bush.
Starting point is 00:07:33 This has defied the diplomacy of almost every president, and it might. It's early, and we want to tread cautiously, but it might just be something pulled off by Donald Trump. And that, I believe, is even recognizable to people like, David Ignatius appearing on Morning Joe on MSNBC. The deal that President Trump is announcing played a key part in negotiating is a significant change. This war was blocked for two years. President Biden, who preceded him, was unable to find a way to stop it.
Starting point is 00:08:11 President Trump found that way by being tough on both sides. And you'll take a victory lap for sure over the next few days. it's deserved. There's no way that I can see that this would have been done without Trump's pressure in the final hours. President Trump told Sean Hannity at the Fox News Channel last night that tariffs were a big part of the tools that he used to pressure Israel and Hamas. In fact, he said tariffs have been a tool that he's used to push peace across the globe. You don't stop fighting. That 20% tariff goes to 100%. Goes to 200%. And I'm absolutely certain that is true, that the tariffs have been
Starting point is 00:08:51 a tool in diplomacy. He's also threatened at various times to ramp up or dial down the war. He's threatened pressure not only on Hamas, but on Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel. He has done something through the strength of his personality, his power, and his tools that has not been able to be done by any other president. And I'm telling you, they even had to address it on CNN. I think that this was not doable when President Biden was in office. I think the biggest problem that the President Biden had is there was no pressure from Qatar, from Turkey, from Egypt. They were actually facilitating in many ways what was going on.
Starting point is 00:09:37 And that is really ultimately how it all came together. But I think by saying that, it's sort of an acknowledgement. Trump has changed that dynamic. Yeah, no, I think that – I mean, he's clearly – I don't know how he changed that. And I think there's – a lot that remains to learn about what prompted that change. But I do agree, yes. Somehow,
Starting point is 00:09:58 some way that changed. That is Congressman Dan Goldman of New York talking to Abby Phillips on CNN reluctantly, like pulling out fingernails in a Vietnamese prisoner of war camp, giving the slightest bit of credit to President Trump. It pains him. It literally pains him to state the obvious. In other points, by the way, in that program, he had the gall to suggest that The other participants on that panel, some Republican, were constantly fact-checked by Abby Phillips, therefore revealing their lies. What is so rich about that is the presumption that Abby Phillips is a neutral arbiter when it comes to a fact-check. It only actually, I think, illustrates the bias of CNN, the agenda, the propaganda of CNN.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And he says that with no sense of irony after he goes on to then issue lies about President Trump being a literal fascist. but in this one moment he can't propagandize lie or agenda or bias his way out of the reality of what's happened in this world and the reality that's happened is happening as we speak is good is objectively good you have to if you're on the left you have to say it's good if you're on the right you have to say it's good if you're a republican peace in a place and perhaps even the framework for a permanent peace that has been defied for almost a century almost 80 years, is good. And if you're a Democrat, you have to acknowledge that's good, right?
Starting point is 00:11:23 Right? Right, Jake Tapper on CNN? Obviously, blessed are the peacemakers indeed. But it is worth pointing out, this is a ceasefire deal, right? This is not a larger peace deal about a Palestinian state of any sort and who gets to rule a Palestinian state and Israel gets security guarantees. and all that, that is still TBD, right? I mean, yes, yes, but, because the yes, but part of that is that, yes, this is the first
Starting point is 00:11:55 phase of this deal where the two key parts of that was a ceasefire and the release of the hostages and also the release of Palestinian prisoners that are being held in Israel. Yes, Jake. Yes, this is actually the framework for a bigger, permanent potential piece. and you can acknowledge it. You do not have to diminish it because it is an accomplishment that honestly surpasses the necessity of recognition of a Nobel Peace Prize. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:12:26 I don't care. Do you care? Who cares about the Nobel Peace Prize? I think President Trump actually is the answer to that question. I think he cares about the Nobel Peace Prize. But he shouldn't because what he has done here surpasses that. It surpasses the necessity of acknowledgement of an international board. It surpasses popular consensus.
Starting point is 00:12:46 It surpasses the goth kids in the corner that are your mainstream media grumbling about every single thing that's positive. We got a Coke machine in the cafeteria. We got world peace in the Middle East. No, we got something potentially here that is historic and it is good. And it makes me wonder if you've fallen into the trap, it makes me know that you've fallen into the trap, that anything and everything that is championed or fought for or argued from Donald Trump, you simply have to find yourself on the other side of. If Donald Trump is for peace, then you must be for war. If Donald Trump is against autism, then somehow you end up suggesting, how dare you malign autism?
Starting point is 00:13:39 What am I talking about? I'm talking about Chris Hayes on MSNBC. But one of the things that's been very strange to me about watching the development of the perversion of the public health system under RFK is the obsession with autism. So it's like it's on both ends and that autism is this like creeping specter
Starting point is 00:13:58 that's, you know, this society is awash in it and when RFK talks about it, he talks about these kids are never going to have a life, they're never going to go to a baseball game. Hayes goes on to say that he has many people in his life who are somewhere on the spectrum or have autism, and it's incredibly offensive, the rhetoric and the way that it's talked about from RFK and President Trump. And I have to ask, are you now pro-autism? Is that what you're for? And I understand that everybody in their life, including me, has some exposure to someone somewhere on the spectrum
Starting point is 00:14:29 with some level of Asperger's or autism. But because we know someone and we love them and we think that they are, in many cases, functional, in some cases special, but in more often than not cases hindered in living a normal full life, we can't be boxed into suggesting all of a sudden that you can't tell the truth. And here's the truth. Every parent right now who is expecting or hopes to expect a child would never wish for their child to suffer from autism. Should that happen, they will love that child, they will raise that child, they will arm that child with every tool to be successful in life. But it is not a path that you choose. You choose health. And it is expanding. Whatever you're
Starting point is 00:15:24 talking about, Chris Hayes, it is growing. I don't want to hear about diagnoses rising. I've been alive on this earth. I've seen with my eyes. I know what it was like when I was in high school. I approximately knew zero people with autism. I did know people with Down syndrome. Now I know a lot of people with autism. And I know very few people with Down syndrome because they've been aborted at, I believe, a 95% rate. Down syndrome babies have been aborted at a 95% rate.
Starting point is 00:15:56 And the number of people that you know in this world with autism has exploded. And we can't because of, oh, well, we don't want to sound like we're being offensive to someone has autism. be driven into this place where we say autism is good or we can neglect to say that having autism is not optimal? And you've lost your mind if you've gone there because all of a sudden that fight, such a noble and important fight, is being championed by RFK and Donald Trump, that you now have the position, Chris Hayes, actually, what?
Starting point is 00:16:32 Actually what? autism is good autism is not bad what are you actuallying are you actuling us into bad outcomes in health Donald Trump wants to cure cancer
Starting point is 00:16:46 is the next episode going to be about actually I know a lot of people suffering from cancer and to fight cancer is really offensive of them the way you're talking about are you going to be
Starting point is 00:16:58 pro autism are you going to be pro cancer are you going to be pro-war against peace in the Middle East because the only definition of your identity and existence is to be on the opposite side, to be the antithesis of Donald Trump. That sounds pretty stupid. And maybe we should consider how to test negative for stupid. That's the title of a new book by Senator John Kennedy, who joins us next on Will Cain Country. America was founded by geniuses but run by idiots, just one of the dimes dropped by Senator John Kennedy in his new book, How to Test Negative for Stupid.
Starting point is 00:17:51 It is Wilcane Country, streaming live at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page, but always available by following us at Spotify or on Apple. Joining us now is the junior senator from Louisiana. It is Senator John Kennedy. Senator, great to see you. Well, thank you. First, I apologize. As you can see, I'm out on the street like a homeless person, but I'm next to the Capitol. We're in the middle of Senate votes, so I've got to run back and forth. Number two, I really appreciate you having me. I enjoy your show so much, and I mean that. Number three, I just wanted to say I am so proud of our president and my country, despite what the president of France has said, despite the prime minister of England, our friends in Australia, the prime minister of Canada, despite all of them acting like whiny, weak wokers. who sided with Hamas. President Trump has brought Hamas to the table. He gave him a very simple choice, either accept peace or we're going to slap you to Pluto. And that's how you have to deal with these hard people. And I'm very, I just want to say I'm very proud of what we've done today. And I thank you for plugging my book. It is. It's historic. Oh, I'm going to plug your book much more, Senator.
Starting point is 00:19:31 That is one of the reasons we're together today to talk about how to test negative for stupid. But to the point that you are making, we're talking about something that as far as I'm concerned is far beyond the necessity of validation from the Nobel Committee. It doesn't need the Nobel Peace Prize. It stands on its own in history and is an accomplishment that has eluded presidents for, honestly, generations. Yes. And also, if you look at this from the even bigger picture, what has the president and Israel accomplished together? They beat Hamas, they beat Hezbollah, they beat Iran, they have brought stability for the Western world and for the Israelis to the Middle East from the first time in a long time.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And I will tell you something, they may not be saying it, but the other countries in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, they're thinking the same thing. They're a lot more scared of Iran than they are of Israel, frankly, quietly they want to be Israel's friend. I think Israel wants to be their friend. And it pains me that some members of the media refuse to, to, they just look a reality in the eye and deny, but it is what it is. I think the American people see what has happened, and it is historic. All right, Senator, you never have to apologize for joining me from your car outside of the Senate.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I actually love the authenticity of the visual. It matches the authenticity of the moments we. get from you. So you don't have to apologize for that. And we do need to talk about your book, but we've got to start somewhere else. And that's going to be with my own personal curiosity. So here's the deal. I see you. I see you with Ainsley. I see you with me. I see you on Fox. I hear the one-liners. And then I get to thinking, I got to, who is Senator Kennedy? And I got to thinking that. Who is he? And then I thought, you know, Will, you're from a town of about 30,000 people in North Texas. You know, you met Senator Kennedy. You knew him at the bank. And
Starting point is 00:21:55 He was friends with your dad. You know him, right? He comes from where you come from. And that's true. Zachary, Louisiana. I think about 19, 20,000 people. And then, Senator, despite all the country yarns and one-liners, I see this in the bio, Vanderbilt. Then I see University of Virginia Law School.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And I'm seeing this guy is obviously a huge intellect and not to take away from anything that you're. Of course, that should be true. but you make it so digestible for everybody. And I started going, no, I need to know a little more about the path of Senator Kennedy, the one that took him from Vanderbilt, from Zachary, Louisiana to Vanderbilt, and then on to UVA law. That's a sterling resume, Senator. Well, I'm still a Zachary boy at heart.
Starting point is 00:22:44 When I grew up in Zachary, we had about 3,000 people. I loved high school. Some people didn't. I loved it. I really cared about two things. basketball and cheerleaders. I wasn't very good at either one, but I had fun trying. I went away to Vanderbilt.
Starting point is 00:23:03 My parents insisted that school come first, and it did for me and my brothers. I went away to Vanderbilt and then UVA and then did another law degree in England. But the lessons that I act upon every day, the fundamental lessons, I learned about in Zachary. This book is a story book. It's not really a policy book per se. I use stories to make my points about policy. Some of those stories are true, are funny.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Some are bizarre. They're all true. I use the book to try to explain to people what the Senate's really like. Why in Washington, D.C., normal is just a setting on the clothes dryer to explain to people why it doesn't have to be that way. will if we just have a return to common sense. The book's pretty wide-ranging. I hope it'll make you think.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I think it'll make you laugh. It may make you day drink, but I talk about President Trump what he's really like and Biden and Grassley and Cruz and the media and Federman. And it was painful writing it because all books, at least for me to write, I've written before. It doesn't come easy, but I'm glad I did it. I would love to see some videos of you in London getting your law degree.
Starting point is 00:24:34 All Zachary, Louisiana view, that accent, those stories in London, see how that's received by the proper people in England. Here's a line. The water in Washington, D.C. won't clear up until the pigs, till you get the pigs out of the creek. So, Senator, with all that experience, who are the biggest pigs in the creek? Well, I think we know most of them. We're watching the Democratic Party right now.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Is this the Schumer shut down? Yes, but that's not who's really calling the shots. These shots are being called by the Loon Wing, the Bolshevik Wing, the Socialist Wing, whatever you want to call it of the Democratic Party, which is in charge. And in charge of the Loon Wing is Congresswoman, location. Joe Cortez. They're about to elect a socialist as a mayor of New York. And this shutdown that we're in, it's simply because Senator Schumer is scared to death of the loon wing of his party and the congresswoman, and he's trying to make him love him. They'll never love him. Chuck would
Starting point is 00:25:45 be better off just doing the right thing. But that's why we are where we are. Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation with Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana about his new book, How to Test Negative for Stupid on Wilcane Country. Senator, you've been there, I believe, in the Senate since 2017, which probably really actually makes you, you know, a newbie, a newbie still, the way that it works in the Senate. But talk to me about this idea of, you know, careerism and insiders. You know, we've had this debate and various people have said, well, there's value in having institutional knowledge of knowing where the bodies are buried. There's value in the experience that develops a bit of expertise. But then there's a line, I would think, that gets crossed where that insiderism becomes careerism. And you become a creature of Washington.
Starting point is 00:26:35 So how do you avoid becoming a creature of Washington? Well, you're right. Not to just pick on him, but Senator Schumer has been in Congress his whole life. This is all Chuck knows. And as a result, he sees everything through a political lens. When I came here, I had experience in the real world, and I was just determined to not change. It's hard. They beat you down every day.
Starting point is 00:27:06 But I believe in the mighty power of candor, God gave me the right to remain silent, but not the ability. I think that's one of President Trump's strength. He exists loudly. We have different styles, but we both play outside the pocket. We both speak pretty plainly. We won't just give in to the status quo. And I think I don't speak for the president, but I think like me, he thinks that America's future can be better than our present or our past.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I think he believes, as I do, that we're only as good as our dreams and as valuable as our children, but I think like me, he also believes that the water in Washington, D.C. is not going to clear up until you get the pigs out of the creek. And I'm trying not, I don't hate anybody. I really don't. When I say my prayers, I always ask God, don't let me hate. But that doesn't mean I can't be candid and plane and say what I think, and I do. And, you know, it is what it is, I guess. You brought up, you tell war stories from the Judiciary Committee. You brought up Senators Cruz and Senators Federman and others. What is your favorite war story from perhaps the Judiciary Committee,
Starting point is 00:28:37 but maybe just life in the Senate? Well, I think one of the funniest things that ever happened, I talked about it in the book, I was very frustrated at both Senator McConnell and Senator Schumer in President Trump's first term. And I was giving a speech, and one of the things they asked me to address is what Senator Schumer and Senator McConnell have in common. And I thought about it, and I said, look, Mitch and Chuck have a lot in They're both very smart. Each is very smart. Each is tenacious. And each could probably lose his place during sex.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Now, that almost got me sent to reform school. Mitch, I think he thought about moving my office to Richmond. But he didn't. But, you know, I told him, I said, guys, you know, you can't invite me to make a speech if you don't want to speech if you don't want to you know you can't pray for rain without dealing with the mud you know well i mean if senator kennedy ever starts a compliment first of all by saying i have a lot in common with someone on the other side and the first two things are complimentary very smart
Starting point is 00:30:02 very tenacious i know the third's going to hurt i mean you had to feel the wind up i felt the wind up i didn't know the third thing was going to hurt okay um quick curiosity you made a analogy. You said you like to play outside the pocket. So I'm going to take that, like any other Louisiana boy, you do like football. I'll grant you a little bit of grace on how big your fandom is. Okay, you love it. Good. All right. So we'll start with the layup. Vanderbilt's playing UVA. You root for who in that game? Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt. I mean, I was in law school at UVA. I don't think I ever went to a UVA football game. All school experiences different from undergrad. Great school.
Starting point is 00:30:42 UVA undergrad. But I pulled for Vanderbilt. I pulled for Vanderbilt against Alabama. When Vanderville plays LSU, I have to be very, very careful. I didn't go to LSU, but I taught that was the follow-up. That was the follow-up. And I told you I was giving you the lay-up. I was giving you the lay-up. The second one was coming. I know. I've got constituents. I got the constituents. What do I do? If you asked me about LSU. but in my alma mater. So Vanderbilt takes on LSU, and that happens. That's SEC.
Starting point is 00:31:17 So you're not showing up to Death Valley in Purple and Gold. You can't go that far. So what are you doing? No, no. No. Look, I don't know if, I haven't looked at the schedule. I don't know if Andy and LSU play this year. I was really pulling for Vanderbilt against Alabama.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I love Alabama. I love Tuberville. I love Katie Britt. But I love to tell Alabama jokes. because Alabama is such a rivalry of LSU and football, and Alabama keeps beating us, you know. Nick Saban was such a great coach. We had him at LSU for a while.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I think I told Tumbleville, or maybe Katie, a joke one time, this is going to get me in trouble. But I said, why does Alabama, why does Alabama, why did Alabama raise the drinking age 32? And Katie said, why? And I said, because they wanted to keep alcohol out of the high schools. So that may be the answer to my last question here for you. So, Senator, I grew up North Texas, small town, close to the border of Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Our noses looked down, right, across the Red River. Our jokes were about Oklahoma. I got family from East Texas, far East Texas, close to Shreveport, like Toledo bend reservoirs within eyesight, and their noses look down, and their jokes are about Louisiana. If you grow up in Louisiana, where do your noses look down, and who are your jokes about? Do you skip over Mississippi and go all the way to Alabama? Well, our rivalry used to be LSU-O-Miss, and it still is a rivalry, Louisiana versus Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:33:01 But since Alabama started beating the living hell out of us in football, we have a rivalry with Alabama. Look, I love Texas. Cruz and Cornyn in this all the time. Texas gets a lot of great publicity. God bless them, but keep in mind that Texas is five and a half times bigger than Louisiana, but Louisiana is 10 and a half times more interesting than they are. The funny thing about that insult is I'm not even sure I could take that one away from you. Like if there's one thing about Louisiana, it is interesting. From the north to the south, from New Orleans, up to Monroe, Baton Rouge. You get that
Starting point is 00:33:44 word. In all of its glory and all in its negativity, you get interesting. You get that. Well, in Louisiana, we dance with the radio on or off, and we eat things, Will, that you would call an exterminator for to get out of your backyard. It's all how you cook it. That's right. That's right. Yeah, plenty of seasoning is the answer. Plenty of Cajun season. All right. Senator John Kennedy, his new book is How to Test Negative for Stupid. It's out now. Make sure you check it out. We appreciate the time. He's given us from the car outside the Senate. Go take your vote, Senator. Thank you. All right. Take care, Senator. Thank you. All right. When we come back, the story of LSU wide receiver, Kyron Lacey, who committed suicide after an investigation into whether or not he committed vehicular homicide. It has led to a controversy on ESPN, and all that really matters, in the end, is the truth.
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Starting point is 00:35:53 Great idea, Justin. Get on it, tinfoil, Pat. And J.J. Marsh says, I seed Senator Mullen of Oklahoma, sent that helmet in. It's true. There is an OU helmet on the desk ahead of the Red River Shootout. This is Wilcane Country. Streaming live at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel,
Starting point is 00:36:12 the Fox News Facebook page, but always available by following on Spotify. and Apple. We're going to have a fifth live show tomorrow, Friday, because we have two such incredible guests that we want to go live with it. We have Cody Campbell, the Board of Regents Chair for the Texas Tech University System. Why is he important? Well, he's the special employee of the President of the United States overseeing college football. He's also, by the way, a man has spent about three or four years in the NFL as an offensive lineman, then became a billionaire several times over. He's also the guy who is making Texas Tech University, the premier destinations for sports and soon to be academics. That's my prediction and college.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And then we'll be joined by Patrick Bet, David. So go over to the YouTube channel and hit subscribe that way that's going to pop up live for you tomorrow. In fact, live right now, the president of the United States is in a cabinet meeting at the White House. The entire cabinet is assembled. He's been speaking about Governor J.B. Pritzker of Illinois. Attorney General Pambondi has been speaking. Right now, Secretary of State, Marco Rubio is chiming in. Let's just stop for a moment and listen in. To understand is that yesterday what happened was really a human story. There's a geopolitical aspect to it.
Starting point is 00:37:23 There's no doubt about it. It creates the conditions for Gaza to one day be a normal place again and people to have a better life. And Israelis to be safe. But yesterday was a human story. And because of the work you put it, and honestly, there is no, not only is there no other leader in the world that could have put this together, Mr. President,
Starting point is 00:37:39 but frankly, I don't know of any American president in the modern era that could have made this possible. because of the actions you have taken unrelated to this and because of who you are and what you've done and how you're viewed. And this weekend, because of that, at some point very soon, we are going to see 20 living human beings emerge from the darkness into the light
Starting point is 00:37:58 for the first time in two years. And that is because not only where you used the credibility and the power and the prestige of this office and the relationships you created and you committed yourself to making it happen, and I think it will go down to the historic moment in the history of our country something our country should be very proud of,
Starting point is 00:38:16 that we have a president that's committed to the, not just peace, but to the human aspect of reuniting these families. My last point on this is just a couple days ago, Secretary Lutnik hosted us all, many of us, at the Kennedy Center. And we have these families, we've interacted them for so many years, for two years now.
Starting point is 00:38:34 And the stories are heartbreaking, both whose families are alive and those who are deceased as well, who want their relatives back so that they can complete the process of grieving. And it was, we had all hoped that perhaps that was the day that we would have an announcement for them on the anniversary of the 7th. But I know you were able to speak to some of those families last night. And I just hope the whole nation understands how incredibly proud they should be of their president and of their country for the role that they've played. And I don't want to let this moment pass Mr. President with also noting the incredible work of Steve Whitkoff and Jared Kushner.
Starting point is 00:39:08 They're an incredible team working together, facing some substantial, impediments to even being there this weekend and doing it. Let me just leave it at that. And they've done a great job on your behalf, Mr. President. They deserve a tremendous amount of credit. But thank you for what you've done for the world. For the world. Thank you very much, I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I think because we have a very busy day with all that's gone on, what we'll do is maybe just a few of you raise your hand if you'd like to say something that. Don't talk to you about that. All right, that is Secretary of State Marco Rubio. giving the President of the United States credit for the peace deal agreed upon by Hamas and Israel. It is truly, truly historic. Over on YouTube, Mark Adiso says, President of Peace. Brooke Lanthrop says, I think some idiots would rather die than admit President Trump is one of the greatest presidents ever.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Or, Brooke, I would say, even give him credit for something as incredible and historic as what we have just seen. We move now to the story of Kairn Lacey. in the world of sports. This is an absolutely fascinating story. And for this, I want to bring in two-a-day stand and tinfoil pat. Because this is a story that is sad. It is within the criminal justice system. It is also spilling over onto sports media.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Here's why I say that. Kyrin Lacey was a wide receiver from Louisiana State University. He was good. He probably would have been drafted in the top three rounds of the NFL. draft. He was involved in an accident in Louisiana where someone was killed. He was investigated and he was charged with vehicular homicide. Sometime after that, Kyron Lacey committed suicide, doubling the tragedy. Video was released earlier this week by Lacey's lawyer suggesting that he had nothing to do with the accident, that he was a
Starting point is 00:41:12 hundred yards behind the accident, nowhere near it. And it somehow he became the subject of a racial prosecution. Ben Crump style, mini-Espin commentator style, blamed this entire thing on a police force that was racist, and they wanted to pin this on Kairn Lacey. The talking point was who was 100 yards behind the accident. Then, just a few days later, After, for example, Ryan Clark went on ESPN Scott Van Pelt's Sports Center and said that
Starting point is 00:41:49 Kyron Lacey was innocent and that his death is on the hands of those that went after him, police released another video, this one showing the incident, which we have now of Kyron Lacey that day weaving in and out of traffic causing this accident. Two days. According to the video timestamp, at 12.03 p.m. and 54 seconds, a portion of the crash can be seen as it occurs. Moments before the crash, the gold pickup truck abruptly veers out of the northbound lane into a business, while the green charger is approaching in the same lane. Immediately after the crash occurred, the green charger was observed on surveillance video and by witness, traveling through the crash scene and continues North
Starting point is 00:42:45 So Kyron Lacey's car is the Green Dodge Charger. Seen on that video weaving in and out of traffic. Then a diagram comes out. This diagram is absolutely fascinating. If you're watching us on YouTube or on Facebook, you can see the diagram here in the Wilcane Country Studios. What you see is two-lane road. You see traffic flowing in both directions.
Starting point is 00:43:09 If you can zoom in two days, you can see, as pointed out by the red arrows on this diagram, the green car, it is painted green while the others are various shades of white and gray, is going in and out of traffic, in and out traffic. He's going into the lane of oncoming traffic. And although it is true, he is 75 to 100 yards behind the accident. But this is an accident that occurs with essentially cars coming at each other. That word behind is carrying a lot of weight. So what happens is, as he's weaving into oncoming traffic. Somebody that's headed for a head-on collision with him panics,
Starting point is 00:43:47 swerves into oncoming traffic, thus killing people, while another individual behind that swerves off of the road to the right, into the shoulder. Multiple witnesses on the scene, for what it's worth, black, white, every race, blamed the accident on the green charger. Of course, they didn't know. who's driving it. They don't know if he's black or white. Their race doesn't seem to matter. They say they saw the whole thing and it's on the green charger. Why? Because it's weaving in and out of
Starting point is 00:44:20 traffic and it's taking on head-on traffic. Now, you can also say when two cars are headed at each other, at least what looks like 40 miles of, you know, speed per hour going at each other, you're going to cover a football field fast, fast, like two seconds. So if a lady sees a lady's season, you know, a car coming at her at 40 miles an hour. She's going about 30 or 40 miles an hour, but that car's 100 yards away. That's not somehow behind the accident and totally removed from the situation. That is the potential to cause the accident if she realizes in one to two seconds, I'm going to go in a head-on collision with that car, and she swerves. Now, I don't know. From here, this is the part where a jury decides. This is a part where a defense counsel makes his argument, probably
Starting point is 00:45:10 examines breaking, tire rubber on the road, on the asphalt, when a prosecutor lays out his case. This is how you handle it, the way I'm telling you the facts, and I'm also telling you there's humility in my facts. Because after this, I think it's the job of the prosecutor and the defense to investigate and lay out the case, and that's for a jury to decide. But one thing I know you don't do is you come out and say that he's innocent, that he was prosecuted and persecuted for his race, and that's what was done on ESPN. And it has to be called out, okay? It has to.
Starting point is 00:45:46 I feel like for years I did this on the network itself. I feel like I did this on CNN. And I've seen this story play out over and over and over and over again. And here's how it works, okay? There are people that give two shits about the facts. They do not care. It fits the narrative, the story they want to tell. Another black man persecuted by law enforcement, okay?
Starting point is 00:46:07 the facts be and it's your job i'm sorry it's my job to help you know them it's your job i'm sorry for this but it is your job to begin to understand and to know who doesn't care about the truth and who is not sharing the facts to you who is just giving you a narrative and i don't care if you're black or you're white if you care about the truth it's high time that you begin the caveat is that you care about the truth you have to care about the truth if you don't then this conversation is not for you okay if you want to live in a world where you can just live in narrative and you poison your mind to live in the racial narrative then we'll see you on down the road but if you care about the truth you're going to have to start identifying those that don't and when they go on tv and they tell you this is the way it is and there's no possible way they can know that there is no evidence to support it and there's often contradictory facts on trevon martin on michael brown on Bubba Wallace, on George Floyd, on every case. If they don't care about the facts, they have earned the reputation of someone that you should ignore.
Starting point is 00:47:18 There are other people within organizations who will platform these irresponsible actors. And what I would say to that is this is how that happens. I'm going to be honest, this is how that happens. Most people in this business are liberal. Okay? That doesn't explain it. There's more. That just tells you about their instinct.
Starting point is 00:47:37 There's a lot of great liberal people out there. There are a lot of responsible liberal people out there. But I'm just telling you how the instinct can lead to platforming irresponsibility. That instinct to be liberal suggests anybody on the other side is uncool, man. They don't even want bad bunny to play at the Super Bowl. Man, they're mad about everything. They're angry. They're maga.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Okay? That's the bearing. I'm telling you how the instinct works. All right? the bearing and the instinct then gravitates them towards what is cool. What is cool? Athletes. A lot of athletes. A lot of former athletes, especially when they live in that world. And here come the athletes,
Starting point is 00:48:12 a lot of them, unqualified, incapable of doing a story responsibly. Seriously, what about being a football player throughout your life suggested that you have earned the fidelity to telling the truth? What is it? You can earn it, but not by virtue of being a football player. That doesn't give you the ability to tell the truth.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Like you do it with your behavior, with your actions. with your fidelity to it. And so, maybe people who have a liberal instinct, who wouldn't otherwise do this, platform irresponsible people, and then they have to come back and apologize later. And I think it's the job of the production staff and the individuals themselves. And I try to do that.
Starting point is 00:48:53 I like that Two of Days Dan disagrees with me sometime because my instincts need to be checked. Everybody needs to be checked so that you can be responsible. And when it comes to these types of cases, we've gone so far beyond irresponsibility that it's not simply mistakes. It's poisoning. It's poisoning. You're poisoning people's minds, okay, into thinking that everybody is racist, the whole system is against them, and it did not happen the way that it was sold. I don't know what happened. That's for a jury. That's for a judge. That's for a prosecutor. That's for a
Starting point is 00:49:21 defense. That's for the facts. But what I feel pretty comfortable saying is it didn't happen the way it was said on national television. And it's good that there's been apologies. There needs to be more. And then there needs to be accountability for those that show no interest and actually getting it right when it comes to the truth. That's the story of Kairn Lacey. Okay, now, before we go, two days, Dan, tinfoil, Pat, it is time for Final Takes. Final Takes, Tinfoil Pat.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Oh, so we, okay, that's a... That's not pre-recorded. Wilcane Country. The Katie Porter of Wilcane Country. Um, so... Get out of my shot. Ah, damn. We did the same time.
Starting point is 00:50:09 So, uh, according to Ollie Connolly. Yeah, and that's going to happen. That's going to happen. Look at him sitting there. He's got that. I don't know if that's a closet or a door behind it. I know. I've been waiting.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Yeah. Yeah. And by the window's open. I can see his vertical shades blowing in the wind. And one day, somebody's going to get in his shot behind. I just want to see like a burglar come in that window. So he just, like, someone trying to wrap him. just get out of my shirt.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Well, luckily, the one time it happened in a meeting, and it was just my two-year-old, so it was a lot of cuteness overload. Yeah. So it's fun. Okay, final takes, tinfoil Pat. There we go. So Bill Belichick, it's being reported by Ollie Connolly and others,
Starting point is 00:50:54 that he is showing a willingness to trigger his own $1 million buyout if you can find another spot with another team or in media. But Belichick and UNC athletic director Bubba Cunningham have both spoken out saying that Belichick is fully committed to UNC football and that he has their full support, which is usually the kiss of death for these kind of situations. Are you concerned about Bill Belichick's time in UNC? It's pretty quick, not even half a season.
Starting point is 00:51:26 I'm concerned about the University of North Carolina. I'm concerned about the Tar Heels. Man, you sign Bill Behocheck and you get, what are we at? Like five games? Are we at five games right now? And it's been pretty ugly, by the way, for North Carolina as well. Man, you know what I'm concerned about? You got to be concerned about Jordan Hudson.
Starting point is 00:51:45 That's what you're concerned about. You hire Bill Belichick and you say, I don't care how bad it is in the first five games. I hired this guy to build a program. And even though he's a legend in the NFL, I'm going to give him time in college football. Meaning, just because you're a legend in the NFL doesn't mean you're going to be a legend in college football. But I'm going to give him the time. I'm going to give him the shot. And you'd give him it.
Starting point is 00:52:07 But for the whole Jordan Hudson deal, man, the girlfriend deal. That's why you start to go, is he in on this? And if you're starting to wonder if he's in on it, now you've got a real problem because you can't have him walking around zombieing the North Carolina program. She's going to be a special advisor soon. Yeah. Yeah. Under Mac Brown, twice. North Carolina was pretty decent. Second time with Drake May at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:52:36 It can be something. What is that? But it can't be if Bill Belichick is half in. It looks like something in Tinfoil Pat's house. It is just Tinfoil ruining the segment again. Get out of my ears. Ah, geez. So, we have that story.
Starting point is 00:52:57 And to close the show, we have everyone's favorite lust. I feel like I'm riding a tricycle, and one of the wheels is loose. So there's that. And every time I try to get going somewhere, it's just kind of like this one wheel just keeps going, and you can't really get. And you know, you're peddling it, and you're like, why isn't it gripping by the show? It's not even going straight. And I can't even get my tricycle going in the same direction. And at some point, I'm just like, okay, put your feet on the ground wheel and just push.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Yeah, just start walking. Then the other party is like, the other party is like, ah, this is my tricycle, it's just, this is my tricycle, it's just going to, right, right, right, right, down the street. It's in WD40. He just goes, so there's that. Moving on.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Ah, that's so good. So, uh, everyone's favorite leftist streamer, Hassan Piker. He's very angry Hassan Piker. He's under, uh hot while he's in hot water with the online and online groups because of this where uh this clip here where he allegedly shocks his dog it's the same reason as the why america kaya please just and go just stop straight to jail you're a yel
Starting point is 00:54:18 is christ what are you doing straight to jail you hear a yelp people are People are saying that he shocked her. He's saying that the collar was actually a vibrating collar. There was no shock element. And, you know, people are calling him out online, though. Yeah. My dogs wear a shock collar. Am I straight to jail, Dan?
Starting point is 00:54:40 Yeah. Yes. Straight to jail. Seriously? No. You think you're like Petco or one of these places? You know you can't even get a shot caller at Petco? I'm no PETA, but...
Starting point is 00:54:54 but what no i'm kidding i mean they're they're tough my neighbor are you anti-shot caller like for barking if they bark it shocks them no i'm walking you through the conversation one step at a time are you anti-shot caller
Starting point is 00:55:10 no i put a i have a shot caller for my dog for the boundaries premier okay so you're not anti-shot call that's that's a big start that's big because some are like i mentioned they won't even sell it at pet And I wear, I have, I use a shock collar on my, they both wear it, both of my dogs on a walk. I don't use a leash, by the way.
Starting point is 00:55:32 They heal, so I have the electric leash if they get off. So they're pretty good, though. I mean, I don't have to shock them. Maybe a little more with Saint. Violet, I don't remember the last time I've had to shock her. It's got three functions, beep, vibrate, shock. I don't even have to go to vibrate. It's just beep, and Violet's like, what's up, boss?
Starting point is 00:55:51 If I vibrate, it's, we're close to, if we're, if we're, if we're, if we're, If I vibrate, it's like, dear God, I'm about to receive capital punishment, what happened? Like, a simple vibration, and she's, like, right by my leg. Saint blows through the first warning signs, so I have to go more directly to the shock. But it's effective. He does not want to be shocked, you know? And it's a really, really, really effective disciplinary tool. It really is.
Starting point is 00:56:21 And I've come to be a big believer in it. And I think it's among the most humane. I really do. I think among the most responsive and humane things you can use to train your dog. Then it's the second step. How, when, and why are you using it? It's like spanking a child. Like, I don't care how non-PC it is.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Like, I think corporal punishment is appropriate. Now comes the part of how, when, and why, right? And I'm a big believer. You never do it out of anger. You know, you never do it for your benefit. it, you never even do it in the moment. I think it needs to be sort of more of a, here's what happened, do you understand type situation, right?
Starting point is 00:57:00 You certainly don't do it in the grocery store aisle. But I think that, I mean, Piker here shows like he's blowing through the second things. The dog got up. That's anger. You know, wasn't even doing anything, but got up. He sounded angry. He also sounded extremely effeminate. That was the most offensive thing to me.
Starting point is 00:57:21 in there, the way he said stop. Stop. Kaya, stop. He did that, like, California girl way of saying stop. Yeah. Stop. Oh, my God. That was, like, really the most offensive thing.
Starting point is 00:57:34 One thing that people are noting online is that they played, they watched the stream for five hours, and they sped it up. And it was like, this was in a five-hour period of time, and she got up once, and he shocked her during that five-hour period. So they're like, he's, what is he doing here? that's it's part of the outrage as well yeah yeah one thing yeah yeah i could see that he's using her as a prop by the way saint and violet have come in here and sat at my feet never once been shocked during the show but they get up and they walk around she there so i guess we're guilty of using them
Starting point is 00:58:07 as a prop um but they're allowed to move i don't know am i that sound biker what i don't like is the bark collar if they just wear it and you don't control the shock and they just get shocked time they bark. I think that's pretty cruel. I've never even seen one. Yeah. I've never even seen that one. It's pretty rough. Yeah. What do you mean about the boundary? You live, oh, you don't live in New York City. You live out. So I have a German Shepherd. So you have like an underground fence? You have a fence underground? Yeah. So I had to leave my dog up up in Connecticut because we couldn't keep her down in New York when I moved down here. So she has a big yard and she has an invisible fence. And she's very smart. She's a German Shepherd. She picked up on it like that, like instantly.
Starting point is 00:58:50 She doesn't even get close to the beep. Oh, yeah. She doesn't even get close to the beep. She knows exactly, like, within inches. I've only seen that once or twice in my life because I live in a world where you either don't have a yard, like, out in the country, or you live in the city and you have fences and yards, right? And I have seen a dog, and the limited I've seen those things, blow through it. Like the dog figured out if I just run super hard. Can't you run super hard through it, and then you're through after a bit, it stopped shocking.
Starting point is 00:59:20 because you're out of its range. Yeah, yeah. Right. So there's an initial shock and then you're gone. Right, so the dog just while it runs until it stops going. Yeah. That dog wants to be free.
Starting point is 00:59:34 It's like, this is going to hurt. I'm just going to grit my teeth and go for about five seconds. But I have a German Shepherd with anxiety, so she doesn't do that. Have you ever shocked yourself with the chalk color? Oh, absolutely. Growing up, I put it on my tongue and walked through one time. I know I was dared
Starting point is 00:59:53 I thought I was tough My answer was going to be yes I definitely was like If my dog's gonna feel this I'm gonna feel it And so I'd done it to my palm That's where I did it on my hand My palm
Starting point is 01:00:03 And you put it on your tongue My sister dared me I had an older sister Who was very Challenged the rules Was the setting high Oh those is the highest you can go I fell to the ground
Starting point is 01:00:17 Dude's brutal violets only goes one to ten like whatever these numbers are like they don't make sense right saints goes one to a hundred that doesn't mean it's a hundred times more powerful than hers it's just the scale sure right but like like saints will get you boy you put it on and he's also got more fur than violet which which the fur blocks the shock you know if that collar's not on tight by the way if it's loose it doesn't do anything right they don't they don't feel it um actually would be very very, very curious with the comment section and the Willisha has to say about this entire subject. So I'll tell you what, I'd love for you to grab some of those.
Starting point is 01:00:53 We'll bring them into the show tomorrow. I've got to run today. That's going to do it for us today. You will see us again tomorrow, live right here. Cody Campbell, Patrick Bet David on Will Kane Country. We'll see you next time. Listen to ad free with a Fox News Podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcast, and Amazon Prime members.
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