Will Cain Country - Trump In Control Going Into The Debate!

Episode Date: September 9, 2024

Story #1: The winds are shifting, and the tectonic plates are moving. Former President Donald Trump is firmly in control headed into the ABC Presidential Debate. Story #2: They are eating ducks and... cats. Raw. The impact of Vice President Kamala Harris' immigration policies. Story #3: Dak gets paid, and Tom Brady enters the broadcast booth. A conversation with the founder of Creator of the ‘Super 70s Sports’ social media account and Host of ‘The Ricky Cobb Show’ on OutKick, Ricky Cobb. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One, the winds are shifting. The tectonic plates are moving one day before, the first and only presidential debate. Firmly in control, Donald Trump. Story number two, they're eating ducks. They're eating cats. The impact of immigration on America. Three, big weekend for the Will Cain Show. Big weekend for Dap Prescott, four years, $240 million, $60 million a year,
Starting point is 00:00:46 and delivering a dominant victory by the Dallas Cowboys. Let's break it down with the founder of Super 70 sports, Ricky Cobb. It is the Will Kane show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page, and always on demand. Terrestrial radio, coast to coast and market to market. But always on demand by hitting subscribe at Apple or on Spotify. Also streaming live every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern time on Fox News's Facebook and Fox News's YouTube page. and go back and get past episodes of the Will Cain Show on demand by subscribing to the Will Cain Show on YouTube. Big weekend, fellas, we're back. The sounds, the feelings of football. It's back in all of its glory from Friday night through Monday night.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Let's take a temperature check. Let's take a temperature check, boys. Okay, who's feeling what? I am the dictator. This is not a democracy. So the emperor will give his ruling. Ten foil pat. Low temperature.
Starting point is 00:02:08 First day back after an ugly start to the season for Florida State, he bleeds maroon and gold. And the loss of a comeback, the loss in a comeback victory for the Miami Dolphins over America's pawn shop, the Jacksonville Jaguars. tough day in Florida tough weekend
Starting point is 00:02:30 tough couple of weeks in Florida for tinfoil pat only surpassed left him speechless only surpassed by a worse weekend for our boy to a day's day as we learned last weekend
Starting point is 00:02:49 in our Friday edition of the Wilcane show with Andrew Perlough formerly of the Dan Patrick show to a day's Dan formerly of the Dan Patrick's show that those inside the circle get to call him twos.
Starting point is 00:03:02 It was like meeting is like hanging out with your college friend and all of a sudden you meet his high school friends and he's like he just casually referenced Dan as twos instead of two a day. He just said twos in the course of the podcast and I was like yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah oh we always joke around without it with twos.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yeah we always do that. And Dan would always, Dan called me twoser was the main one, twoser. Okay, yeah, I totally knew that. I knew that, yeah, that's exactly. Yeah, we've been doing that a long time. Awkward reunion between college friends and high school friends.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Bad day for Tuzer. Bad weekend for Tuzer. Not only did the Green Bay Packers lose on Friday night, they lost their quarterback. And I share in this pain because he's my fantasy quarterback and at least in one of my leagues. Tough for Jordan Love. By the way, what's the update quick? The Will Kane Show Fantasy Football League has launched. Bad weekend for me.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I'm losing to Young Establishment, James. Who's the... Andy McCarthy, Fox News Legal Analyst, seems to be the big winner so far from the weekend, James. 150 points for our resident legal expert? Yeah, 158 points had Alvin Kamara, Anthony Richardson, and just a bunch of guys that put up decent points. No one crazy, just across the board.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Good, good, good. He just put it on. Who is he beating? Byron Donald's. Byron Donald's. Is that who he tattooed? Yeah, Donald's had a respectful. weekend donalds looks like he put up one 30 points okay okay congressman comes out shooting we'll fill
Starting point is 00:04:33 you on the fantasy football league the will cane show fantasy football league and all the different players in that probably a little bit more tomorrow we know nobody cares about your fantasy team nobody cares about your fantasy team but we'll let you know like who's doing well and who's doing port it we got andy mcarthy we got byron donald we've got a j prasinski famed mlb player uh we got pete heggs set so we got a big pool 12 team league here at the Wilcane show. But rough as well for Tuzer because Notre Dame just embarrassed. Dang, man.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Embarrassed this weekend. What the heck happened? Rough. They got to get rid of the coach now at this point. That's brutal. Already. Marcus Freeman. Gone.
Starting point is 00:05:14 So, young establishment James may be beating me in fantasy football, but it doesn't bother me because I've had an absolutely dominant weekend football. He, for some odd reason, also likes to Texas Long. Longhorns, huge victory for the horns, dominant victory for the horns over the Michigan Wolverines, and then to double it down, dominant victory for the Dallas Cowboys over the Cleveland Browns. And it's just perfect as Dak Prescott is our quarterback of the future. $240 million, $60 million a year.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I'm in on it. I love it. You got to do it. You got to pay the man. And I know, I know it's controversial. How dare you pay Jack as the best, as the best, you know, player ever in the NFL? I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:06:00 We're going to bring in Ricky Cobb. He's the host of the Ricky Cobb show. He's the founder of Super 70 Sports. We're going to break down that plus Tyree Kill, getting detained cuff before games. We're going to break that all down in story number three here on the Wilcane show. Tomorrow is a presidential debate. And we need to break down exactly where we are.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Take the temperature. You know, take the pulse of the race. See where we are. because I'm going to tell you something. The pulse is quickening. Things are changing. The temperature is rising. Tectonic plates shifting.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Do you need more metaphors? The winds are shifting in the race. And right now it looks like Donald Trump is in control. Story number one. New York Times, Siena poll published this weekend, causing fear and panic within the Democratic Party. Why? Because this New York Times,
Starting point is 00:06:53 Siena poll shows that for the first time in about a month, Donald Trump is running in front in a national polling average over Kamala Harris. 48 to 47. Now, that is a razor-thin margin, and it is within the margin of error. But within this poll, it also shows that Donald Trump is leading, for example, by 11 points in the Midwest. Let's go to a little bit of context. At this same time in 2020, Joe Biden's lead over Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:07:23 was substantial, substantial in what ended up being a very, very tight race. And Donald Trump's lead in the Midwest, and both in 20, was less than what this New York Times Siena Poll is suggesting his lead is over Kamala Harris. Now, this, I think, does represent, along with the prediction of Nate Silver, who in his latest election model, electoral college model, shows Donald Trump 312, Kamala Harris, 226. That would be a landside victory for Donald Trump. And I think this represents for the first time in this race since the departure of Joe Biden, a significant sea change. Shift of the wins in the race for president. I'm reading this book right now called The Wager.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Now, you know if you've ever been listening to The Will Kane Show for quite some time, I get fascinated with. I love history. I also am particularly fascinated right now with the age of exploration. I don't know. You know, I've romanticized it. I just finished wide, wide water by Hampton Sides about Captain James Cook.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And now I'm reading a book by David Grand, who also wrote the Lost City of Z called The Wager. And it's about shipwreck mutiny murder in the 1740s for a British, squadron of ships looking to take on the Spanish Armada. And I have not finished the book, but they have ended up in shipwreck. And part of what I'm fascinated by is how hard it was to get around Tierra del Fuego,
Starting point is 00:09:06 to get around South America. These guys, it took them a month to simply get around the corner. That area of the world, which you may know, because I think that maybe it's common knowledge, maybe it's not, but that's where the Pacific meets the Atlantic. And essentially, you have uninterrupted seas around the entire globe, from the Pacific to the Atlantic to the Indian with the Arctic Ocean there, just ripping around before it hits any landmass, never hits any landmass. You get huge currents, gigantic, you know, 100-foot waves, winds blowing in every direction,
Starting point is 00:09:42 temperature changes and storms. And for those sailing on the power of the wind, it's not only a monster, monumental task. It's terrifying. And I think about this when I constantly invoke the metaphor of shifting winds. Because I've romanized the age of exploration as part of me, it's like, that's when men took risks and took adventures. I said to my son last night who's 16. He's, you know, he's, he's got a lot going on, you know. He's a high school varsity punter and kicker. He's playing ECNL, which is a fairly high level of soccer. He's on this club or that club. at school, he's taking pre-Cal physics, and he's just hammered. He's doing way too many nights,
Starting point is 00:10:24 as I mentioned last week, of six hours of sleep. But then I read about these 16-year-olds, 16-year-olds on the ship called The Wager, trying for a month to get around K-Porn. And in the middle of all that, the entire fleet is afflicted with scurvy. By the way, scurvy, that's two books in row for me now about, you know, sailing in the 1700. Scurvy killed more people in the British Navy than any particular or cumulative war. At all the wars together and the tolls taken on the British Navy, it doesn't come close to Scurvy. And the description of what Scurvy does to you is awful and it's malnutrition. It's not getting, you know, fruit, vegetables into your diet. Your eyes bulge out, your teeth fall out, your breath goes rancid, your muscles loosen from the bones,
Starting point is 00:11:15 you swell you get delusional your mind goes it's horrific but this is kind of a big tangent a big aside for the analogy of the shifting winds those winds shifting that could not took them a month to get around k-porn and i do think on the tortured analogy that you're seeing a huge wind shift right now in the race for president it's more subtle than perhaps hundred foot waves and storms off the coast of south America. But it's happened. Writing the wave of the shift from Biden to Harris, riding the wave of the Democratic National Convention, writing the wave of what has been billed, shockingly, it truly is. If you talk to anybody, I have a friend who just spent his weekend on Fire Island, which, you know, Fire Island in New York, you're kind of at the bull's eye of the center of far left.
Starting point is 00:12:01 The reinvention of Kamala Harris as Barack Obama is complete among the far left, but not so much when it comes to the independent, the middle, and the swing voter. And what you're seeing here when it comes to, for example, Nate Silver or New York Times, Siena poll, is the casual, independent, swingable voter have their doubts about whether Harris is Obama. For that, by the way, Nate Silver's paid a price. He's being attacked. The Gateway Pundit has an article up right now where you can see this, but the left is going after Nate Silver. Nate Silver has been a man of the left. But he is now being attacked as somebody who's paid. by Peter Thiel, the famous Silicon Valley entrepreneur.
Starting point is 00:12:45 He works for the betting markets. He's manipulating betting markets is the accusation. He's doing anything but accurately describing reality. And that's an affliction of our political culture. It truly is. And that's not unique to the left. It's happening on the left. If you dare describe reality, you are rooting for a particular reality.
Starting point is 00:13:02 It's like the whole world has turned into Levar Ball. You guys remember LeVar Ball? When I was at ESPN, he was a big figure there for a year or two. LeVar Ball, the father of Lamello, all the Ball brothers, was famous for saying, speak it into existence, you know? What's this thing he told Stephen A. Fis? Stephen A. Smith, undefeated, never lost. LeVar Ball thought, if you say it, it becomes true.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Speak it into reality. That's what everybody in politics wants you to do now. If you accurately describe reality, in this case, Nate Silver, you're accused of trying to manipulate reality. I even feel that happens, I know that happens on the right. When I said that Ron DeSantis didn't have it, or that he wore lifts in his boots, then people think that I'm doing that because I hate Ron DeSantis.
Starting point is 00:13:48 And I wanted that to be reality. No, no. I like Ron DeSantis, but I'm accurately describing reality. If I come back on Wednesday and tell you, I don't think Donald Trump had a good debate, Kamala Harris may come out polling better after this debate, there will be people that say, will you hate Trump, what's wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:14:04 You're rooting for Kamala Harris, you secret rhino, or lefty and I'm going to be like hey I don't think you can accurately win in the real world unless you understand the real world describing reality is not rooting for reality that's what's happening now to Nate silver how dare he objectively tell you where he thinks it is right now in the race for president but there are storms ahead that is a Tuesday night debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. But why are the seas changing? I'm going to give you, or what evidence do I have besides polling that the seas are changing? I'm going to give you four reasons. One, Joe Biden is campaigning for Kamala Harris, and he is campaigning in the Rust Belt,
Starting point is 00:14:49 Michigan, Wisconsin. Now, for a lot of this race, she's tried to distance herself. She still is, and I imagine tomorrow night she will try to distance herself from Joe Biden. But yet now she's employing Biden to hit the campaign trail. I think that's evidence of desperation. I think that's an acknowledgement of the shifting winds. Two, the media. Now, the media is always playing a propagandist role, but it's getting a bit more desperate. I want to show you something.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I found this fascinating. Here's the front page of CNN.com. This has been bugging me for a while now. This is the lead story. Okay, the headline reads, Trump warms up for debate by threatening to jail election officials. That's a heck of a headline.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I was curious. I was like, what Trump threatens to jail election officials. For what it's worth, by the way, this is marked as the lead headline on CNN.com. Now, I think it's fascinating. They button it with what's called a subhead in the news. Underneath it, there's another headline,
Starting point is 00:15:48 and that one's marked analysis. But they both link to the same article by a guy named Stephen Collison. And his job, and I've noticed this for a while now, and there's a reason I'm telling you about a no-name named Stephen Collison writing at CNN, because his job seems to be, seems to be, to guy's subjectivity as objectivity, to help package analysis as reporting.
Starting point is 00:16:14 You go through this, for example, and there's a quote in there where it says, Trump praised Vladimir Putin as a chess player. Well, Trump described Vladimir Putin as a chess player. He didn't praise him. That's like, that's like, you know, yeah. Putin is a chess player. We talked about it last week here. And why did he endorse Kamala Harris?
Starting point is 00:16:36 I don't know. He's playing chess. You have to be able to describe reality without it being necessarily something that you're cozying up to or complimenting or praising. Here's another great example. This happened last week after we signed off. So you guys saw this probably. J.D. Vance was accused when it comes to the school shooting in Georgia of saying school shootings are, and this was the quotes, just a fact of life. And in that's the implication that surrender, deal with it, America.
Starting point is 00:17:04 School shootings are a fact of life. But that's not what he said. Here's what J.D. Vance said when it came to that school shooting in Georgia. I don't like this. I don't like to admit this. I don't like that this is a fact of life. But if you're, if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets. And he goes on from there to provide what he thinks are solutions or remedies to school shootings. But he says, I don't like this.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I wish this were not. But it is a fact of life. Cancer is a fact of life. That doesn't mean I'm rooting for cancer or surrendering to cancer. Once again, you acknowledge reality in order to solve reality. But the left used that as a cudgel to say that J.D. Vance, you know, if not, pro-school shooting, cool with school shooting. It's the same playbook as very fine people.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Take it out of context, warp it into something else. That was a hoax. which you still have to hammer home because people don't know. Take a poll in the street and people don't know. Donald Trump did not call Nazis and white supremacists very fine people. In fact, he explicitly said they are not very fine people. Same thing here. J.D. Vance calls school shootings just a fact of life.
Starting point is 00:18:16 And when CNN packages this as analysis is Stephen Collison, Trump wants to jail people, election officials, it is more powerful propaganda than Joy Reid. It's more powerful propaganda than, Rachel Maddow or even a lefty CNN commentator on television. Why? Because when you're watching or listening to that, you know, everyone knows. I'm getting bias. And okay, fine. When you listen to me, I encourage you. Will has his opinions. You hear Will's opinions. You can discount, fact check, challenge Will's
Starting point is 00:18:49 opinions. But if I pretend like they're not opinions, which is incredibly dishonest, it's more powerful. So CNN packages this as though it's a fact. Now Trump took to truth social and he did say this. He said this about jailing opponents or however they framed it. Cease and desist, I together with my attorneys and legal scholars am watching the sanctity of the 2024 presidential election very closely because I know better than most the rampant cheating and skullduggery that has taken place by Democrats in the 2020 presidential election. It was a disgrace to our national, uh, it was to our nation. There Therefore, the 2024 election where votes have just started to being cast will be under the closest
Starting point is 00:19:37 professional scrutiny. And when I win, those people who cheated will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which will include long-term prison sentences so that the depravity of justice does not happen again. We cannot let our country further devolve into a third world nation and we won't. Please be aware that legal exposure extends to lawyers, political operatives, donors, illegal voters, and complicit election officials. Those involved in unscrupulous behavior will be sought out, caught, and prosecuted at levels unfortunately never seen before in his country. Now, Trump threatens to jail election officials, opponents. Or Trump says the enforcement of the law will be pursued.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Don't be up to any shenanigans or face the law. He's not talking about authoritarian Maduro tactics of putting his opponents in jail. He's talking about enforcing existing law, which we should. If there is cheating going on and a heavy burden there lies, to prove if there is cheating going on, who doesn't want? Democrats, Republicans, who wouldn't want enforcement of the law? But this is packaged as reporting. This is packaged as objective analysis.
Starting point is 00:21:13 This is packaged as reality. Third, by the way, Dick Cheney endorses Kamala Harris. I think this is desperation. I think it's also fascinating that Dick Cheney and Bill Crystal and Adam Kinsinger and Liz Cheney are now voting Kamala Harris. And RFK and Tulsi Gabbard and Elon Musk are voting Donald Trump. Don't sell me anymore that there's far left and far right. It's on a neat little bipolar spectrum. It's not. We're living in the midst, I think, interestingly, of shuffled political lines. And then finally, fourth, I don't expect you know who Aaron Rupar is, but he is incredibly influential
Starting point is 00:21:48 for some reason on Twitter and plays like that. He takes clips out of context. He's a cretanous liar. but he said in response to the New York Times CNN poll that 48% of this country is still with Donald Trump and that represents a sick society. I'm telling you, it's getting desperate. The winds are shifting. Tomorrow night there will be a debate. It will be a storm, a sea change.
Starting point is 00:22:12 It can wipe out all prior trends and directions of the wind. And I think it will be tough for both of them. I think it will be tough for Kamala Harris. I think it's going to be tough for Donald Trump. We'll break it down tomorrow here on the Wilcane show. But for now, Donald Trump is in control of the race for president. They're eating ducks.
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Starting point is 00:23:49 Donate now. Eating Ducks and Cats. Next on the Will Cain Show. It is time to take the quiz. It's five questions in less than five minutes. We ask people on the streets of New York City to play along. Let's see how you do. Take the quiz every day at thequiz.com.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Then come back here to see how you did. Thank you for taking the quiz. Thomas Young. Yo, Thomas, are you listening? who says on Facebook, this guy is a sports announcer. What does he know about politics? Everything, Thomas. Everything. Now, you're right. I'm just a dude, right?
Starting point is 00:24:32 I don't know if you're familiar with this dude, but I think you could, if you'd like, catch me on Fox & Friends Weekend. You can catch me filling in for Jesse Waters on Jesse Waters' Primetime. I got you covered, Thomas, sports or politics. But if you prefer somebody who, I don't know, has exclusively focused their life on the world of politics, may I present Carl Rove? David Axelrod Or see you here tomorrow
Starting point is 00:24:52 Again on the Fox News Facebook page Thomas Young It's the Will Kane show streaming live On the Fox News Facebook page Fox YouTube Terrestrial Radio, Apple, Spotify By the way, over there on YouTube Gage Evan says Lions win it all this year
Starting point is 00:25:07 Pretty good last night Martin G. Washburn Back onto Facebook says This debate won't matter It's a big waste of time I don't think so Martin I don't think so. I think this debate will be big.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And then back again to YouTube, Sharon Husby says, Hello Will from Maryland, eating cats. What the hell is wrong with these sickos? I have cats, and they are like family. It makes me so sick to hear that. Deport. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Here's the story. I'm going to bring up the guys in New York to help me walk through this story. The story is from Springfield, Ohio, where a town of 50,000 people has, according to reports, including the New York Times, which we can put up on your screen right now, it's reported on this, seen over 20,000
Starting point is 00:25:55 migrants, not illegal immigrants. Let's talk about that word from it, but 20,000 migrants arrive in Springfield, Ohio, a town of 50,000. Now, why did I say let's focus on migrants versus illegal? They're not illegal. They didn't come into this country illegally. They're part of a refugee program. And, you know, it's interesting. Hegseth and Duffy and I on Fox Friends Weekend
Starting point is 00:26:18 or try to be very intentional about our use of illegal immigrant versus migrant because for some reason the standard in journalism is to call everybody a migrant. Inaccurate, okay? 70% of what we're looking at is illegal immigration. So by the odds, you should say illegal immigrant. But some are migrant.
Starting point is 00:26:35 And don't forget the migrants in this debate because refugee status and asylum status is a big part of the debate, right? An illegal immigrant crosses the border, claims asylum, a refugee. That is not everybody. And that's not the case with Haitians. And so we have an effect on America, both through illegal immigration and through refugee and asylum cases, who are more accurately described as migrants. This is a migrant situation in Springfield, Ohio, where they are largely from Haiti, 20,000. Okay, the article we just put up for you in in the New York Times
Starting point is 00:27:11 talks about the effects of 20,000 Haitians arriving into a town of 50,000. What are those effects? I don't think we have this video, but if we do, two days can tell me there's a video that arrived, okay, of the police in that town getting to a driveway where a lady is knelt over a dead cat, the reports in the local newspaper, because I don't trust things I see on Twitter anymore, okay? I need it verified. I need to see the source reporting. Is that this lady, and I don't want to, like, upset people, but the report is that she killed the cat. So I saw that, witness testimony, and it's pretty gruesome how she did so, blunt.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And was standing over the cat, and two days, just give me a yes or no on thumbs up or thumbs down if we have the video, because I'm not going to, I'm going to play it for people. We don't have the video, so I'll tell you what happens in the video. You can see it's all over social media um there are people as the cops arrive they arrest her she's kneeling over this cat and the people around her say she's eating the cat which it's just so unbelievable because i mean does it does it make it worse i think it does yeah that it would be a raw cat that it's a raw cat like i don't i don't know it's gross and bad period but just in a drive-well eating a raw cat what what are we doing here this is america land of the problem is obesity not starvation
Starting point is 00:28:45 um and i want to pick up this comment from youtube Sharon husby who says eating cats what's wrong with these sickos i have cats and they are like family it makes me so sick to hear that deport so if you're ranking the will can show family on trust when i turn the microphone over to them shockingly it probably goes it was clearly two a days number one and shockingly shocking I can what I'm saying this Young Establishment James number two
Starting point is 00:29:15 and then tinfoil pat in dead last because I never know I may get nothing he may just clam up and be silent or he may go on a two minute monologue I don't know what I'm going to get but let's just have fun
Starting point is 00:29:29 it's going to be like rolling the dice going to the craps table who knows in our morning meeting you said what should Sharon Husby said, you think tinfoil, this is a issue that can change an election. You think Haitians eating cats in Springfield, Ohio, changes votes. Tinfoil. I think you should put a poll out and try to gauge, I'm telling you, everybody is going to go to your poll.
Starting point is 00:30:00 They're going to go, yeah, it definitely changes the way, especially if you focus it on suburban women. I think it's going to change the way that they view immigration as a whole if it's not just like, you know, people coming over the border or whatever. The problem is, where do you put that poll out? Like, obviously, most people that follow me tend to agree with me. That's how social media works, right? And the people that matter are the people that don't know or don't have opinions yet about things.
Starting point is 00:30:28 And you could, I mean, actually, I think our comment section on Facebook and YouTube are pretty good. I think we have a cross-section of people. The problem is, I think that a lot of them are already polarized in there in their camps. I don't know how many are sitting there going, I'm still waiting to be motivated, but I always love the audience, trust the audience, and I welcome them to jump in to offer their opinion. I think this is a Twitter story. I'm not saying it should be. This is back to accurately describing reality versus what you want reality to be. I think it's a Twitter story. It probably
Starting point is 00:30:57 should be a bigger story, and I'm going to explain to you why in a minute. But if Trump spends tomorrow night bringing up people eating ducks and cats well i think it's going to be spun as what is he talking about he's crazy and then by the way then you'll have the corrective mechanism of people going it's actually real what he's talking about because it is real but you're playing catch up if you're explaining you're losing and so i am very doubtful that it is capable of changing votes but you're going to mention ducks it's not just cats because the same town springfield ohio man to the city council meeting. I want to play for you what he had to say about what's happening in public parks and so forth there in Springfield. Watch. These Haitians are running into
Starting point is 00:31:43 trash cans. They're running into buildings. They're running into they flipping cars in the middle of the street. And I don't know how like y'all can be comfortable with this. Like I don't know like who's getting paid from it. I don't even want to like seem like I'm coming down on the immigrants because it's the people that's bringing them down here because wherever they're at that's what they're used to bro they're in the park grabbing up ducks by their neck and cutting their head off and walking off with them and eating them like it's okay it's hard for it not to be funny but they're in the parks grabbing up ducks cutting their heads off and eating so cats and ducks Haitian migrants Springfield Ohio now I'm going to bring somebody else in from
Starting point is 00:32:30 our morning meeting. Two a days was like, what's wrong with eating ducks? That was your reaction to this, two of days? What's wrong with eating ducks? Well, yeah. I mean, I've been to Haiti multiple times, actually, and I've never seen the cat thing. I've seen, I've seen ducks. But you're right. In that, in a difference of cannibalism, by the way, in Haiti. Reports of cannibalism. True. In Haiti. But yeah, I don't know. People eat ducks. I've eaten duck. You know, the French eat ducks. Two days. Are you being serious? No. Yeah, I like duck honey I like to go duck honey
Starting point is 00:33:03 I eat duck okay By the way duck's not the best You really got to work on it to make it good But This isn't a bunch of dudes out on the Red River Taking down a couple of mallards And some and some You know, widgets to cook up
Starting point is 00:33:18 Come Christmas time That's not what's going on This is like I think two days If you and your Brooklyn friends We're sitting around Prospect Park And you saw some dudes Walk up to the pond
Starting point is 00:33:29 and grab some resident ducks, you'd be like, what the hell is going on here? It's a difference between wild migratory ducks and the ducks in Central Park, man. It's very true. You're right. They are cuter.
Starting point is 00:33:43 I would say that. But yeah. Also, like, at a minimum, there are hunting laws. And places. True. Again, this is like you saying, you know, it's dove season right now,
Starting point is 00:33:55 at least in Texas, it's dove season. Isn't the pigeon, like, a form of a duck season? Dove. Pigeons like a big, fat, city-fied dove, right? Well, if I'm shooting Dove out in a field in Gunner, Texas, that's one thing. But if I'm walking around the streets of the parks of New York with a net grabbing pigeons and ripping their heads off, I think your reaction is different, dude.
Starting point is 00:34:16 I don't think it's the same thing. So this guy, I think we have another clip, by the way, because I think this is good. Because so this is, back to the should, okay, tenfoil, should this be a bigger deal? Should people care? Maybe should it affect votes? I think this guy makes another statement that is pretty fascinating in sort of his attempt to be non-judgmental. He's putting it all in the politicians. He's trying not to be judgmental, which I think there is worthy judgment of these migrants,
Starting point is 00:34:49 when he says the following. And who is getting paid? Like, how much money is y'all really getting paid to bring them over here? Like, I know it's deeper than them. I know that's where they come from and that's what they do. That's their country. I don't know what they got going on over there, but they can't do that over here. And if y'all just getting paid from it and then y'all ain't doing that about it,
Starting point is 00:35:09 I think that's super weird, bro. Y'all got to stand on business. Y'all got to really, like, step up. Like, it's lame, bro. That's where they come from. That's what they do. They country is what he said. And which I would argue, I don't know that that's even, I'm country.
Starting point is 00:35:26 I come from country. I don't know if I'm still country, but I used to be country. And that ain't what you do. You don't go to the public park and scoop up the resident ducks. But the acknowledgement there is a variance in culture, okay? And there is judgment. You can say some culture is superior to others, and you shouldn't be going to parks regardless of where you live,
Starting point is 00:35:48 grabbing up the quasi-wildlife, the domesticated wildlife. But as a country, we should be asking ourselves at all times. what culture are we inviting in whether or not that's through open borders illegally or even through the legal migration process of accepting refugees we have that conversation we should have that conversation when it comes to bringing in people from Afghanistan from Syria from anywhere else okay and say what do they buy into America they want to be Americans are they share American values these are lit these aren't just legitimate I'm not even here to meet the minimum bar these are important questions to ask about anybody that comes to this country okay the idea isn't
Starting point is 00:36:31 oh just come yeah i mean you know safe haven get a job no do you value the culture of america that is paramount and that's what this issue is an illustration of i'm doubtful that tinfoil pat is right i know people love their pets and that's his argument like people love their pets will they project themselves into this lady eating a cat in a driveway in Springfield, Ohio? I'm doubtful. But they should understand this is the product of policy. Policy. Purposeful.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Need me to prove it? I want you to listen to Kamala Harris as vice president in 2021. That is why also, starting with our administration, we gave TPS temporary protected status to Haitian migrants, 55,000. And then more recently, we extended temporary protective status to over 100,000 Haitian migrants for that very reason, that they need support, they need protection.
Starting point is 00:37:35 There you go. So that was 150 she rattled off 1,000, 20,000 of which are in Springfield, Ohio. Okay, it's not racist. It's not xenophobic. It's not even jingoistic. to ask what any responsible politicians should do. We talked with Gad sad last week.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Go back and list that episode of The Will Kane Show about suicidal empathy. Do you serve empathetically or for your own virtue signaling? The people of Haiti, the people of the world, the people of the Middle East, or do you serve Americans? And are your policies helping or hurting Americans, and Americans, ducks and cats.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Let's break down the first weekend of professional football plus get into. Tyreek Hill, detained before the Dolphins game. Next with Ricky Cobb of the Ricky Cobb show on Outkick, here on the Wilcane show. It is time to take the quiz. It's five questions in less than five minutes. We ask people on the streets of New York City to play along. Let's see how you do. Take the quiz every day at the quiz.
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Starting point is 00:39:31 On the Fox News YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page, always on demand, just hit subscribe, Apple, Spotify, or on YouTube. I haven't watched First Take. I'm not tuned in today to sports. not least on television. I would be curious to know, are they going all in on Tyreek Hill? Are they saying, once again, that cops are racist?
Starting point is 00:40:00 Tyree Kill, Dolphins Wide Receiver, one of the top five wide receivers in the NFL, driving to Hard Rock Stadium in Miami yesterday, was pulled over by police. He was detained. He was put face down on the concrete. He was handcuffed. Then he was sat down.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Two Dolphins' teammates were approached the cops, four cops, and said, what's going on, tried to intervene. One of them, Cleas Campbell, was also cuffed for a moment. Ultimately, all of them were released. Tyreek made it to the game, and the Dolphins won over the Jags. But this threatens to be a massive story, a massive story about race and a massive story about policing. And I will say for a moment, undercutting that story,
Starting point is 00:40:45 I think being responsible about that story is Dolphins Wide Receiver Tyreek Hill, who said, I don't know what happened. I don't know what the deal is. I love cops. I want to be a cop when I'm done. So he's not trying to turn this into a national debate a la Colin Kaepernick. But there are those today, I'm sure that will. And that will be inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Let's get into why with the host of the Ricky Cobb show. He's the founder of Super 70 Sports, a super. popular. X account for many years now. He's now joined Outkick. You can catch the Ricky Cobb show every day. Today he's here on the Will Kane show. What's up, Ricky? How's it going? Well, pleasure to be here, man. So I've got a lot of thoughts on this Tyreek story. But what are your thoughts? He's detained. He's put on the ground. Four cops. It's pretty aggressive. It is aggressive because there's a lot of viral video out there from fans who got it on their phones. But I have a lot of thoughts, but what do you think, Ricky? Well, the optics are terrible, right? When you see it circulating
Starting point is 00:41:47 and this guy's face down and handcuffed with multiple officers over him, your mind naturally gravitates towards what kind of terrible thing is happening to this man. I think we need to wait a day or two, let the facts emerge. I know it's a hot take culture that we're in Will. and everybody wants to jump out and get at the forefront of it and get clicks and all of that stuff. But I just don't think that we know all the details yet. And until we do, it's going to be impossible to have an educated take on it. So first of all, let me just say Bravo. I think it's the only right take that what we just heard from Ricky Cop.
Starting point is 00:42:39 I think if we're being human, we're being real, we can do something. We can acknowledge that we all have emotional reactions to very little information. And I do, right? I even see it, and I'm like, woo, that's egregious. Now, let me say, that doesn't make me anti-cop, clearly. I can acknowledge reality and go, this just happened like a month or two ago with Scottie Schaeffler, you know, as he was approaching a major, and we've seen the video. We know what happened more or less there with Scottie Schaeffler.
Starting point is 00:43:08 he tried to pull in, and the cop was over-aggressive, and the cop just, I'm not even saying he's a bad cop. He had a bad day or had a bad set of choices, the cop right there with Scotty Sheffler. So it can happen. There are, you know, thousands upon thousands of cops, all capable of making bad decisions, of varying levels of judgment all throughout the country.
Starting point is 00:43:27 That could have happened with Tyree Kilt. And your emotional reaction is, wow, that's awful aggressive. But then you need to slow down and go, all right, but what's the rational side say? Well, the rational side is what you said. I have very incomplete information. I have no idea what happened here. I don't know why he was pulled over.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I know it says they're saying traffic violation. By the way, what is he driving? Was that a Lambeau? I don't know what that was. It was really, really nice. Sweet ride. Sweet ride. I don't, Tyreek says that he was respectful
Starting point is 00:43:58 and didn't say anything, you know, and complied. He says that. I mean, I don't know if I should trust or doubt Tyreek, right? Tyreek doesn't have a sterling past. that all factors in to what we sit there. You know, he's been in trouble for domestic abuse when he was with the Chiefs, or maybe before he was with the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:44:19 And so, you know, all this plays in, but ultimately you get to a place where nobody who's, very few people want to get because it's not an exciting take to put on X or to put on television, which is you don't know what happened. And I just wish that Jamel Hill, meanwhile, tweets out, you know, Dolphins owner, Stephen Ross, has supported legislation to give police immunity. I mean, she, she not only passed go and collect 200, she went around the board twice,
Starting point is 00:44:48 you know, she immediately decided based upon the available information here, the cops were in the wrong, and it's indictment of police, and we should carry that over to people that support those policies, and oh, by the way, we should also go after Hill's owner of the Miami Dolphins, Hill's boss, the owner of the Miami Dolphins, Ross. Like, that's what people will do, what you did, Ricky? Well, there's a rush to fit it into whatever your chosen narrative is, and people have a tendency to take whatever is in the news and fit it into the box that they want it to go in in order to push whatever the story is that they're invested in telling. And so something like this that's so visually powerful, let's be honest, a black man face down
Starting point is 00:45:36 on the pavement, three cops over him, a celebrity handcuffed. I mean, that is red meat for anybody who wants to jump to any sort of conclusion that they wish. And they're going to do it. We're already seeing it. It's a potentially racially explosive issue. But again, Will, as you said, we just don't have the facts yet. We know that it was a traffic offense.
Starting point is 00:46:06 It's hard to imagine what kind of traffic offense would necessitate what we saw, which is very troubling. I think pretty much anybody can agree. Well, we could imagine it, though. You know, I just want to push back a little. You can imagine it. I mean, he could be driving reckless or fast. NFL wide receiver Rishi Rice just did that in Dallas, or he's accused of doing that. He's not convicted of it, but arrested.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Bad deal in Dallas, where he's going incredibly fast. I'm not saying that's what happened with Tyreek. My only point is we can put ourselves into the cop shoes and imagine something, but I don't jump to that either. Just like I shouldn't jump to that side, I also shouldn't jump to the clearly Tyreek was reckless driving or he mouthed off. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:50 That's the point. I don't know. There's a wide range, right, of things that this could have been. It could have been the most innocuous moving violation you could think of, or it could be something and spectacularly terrible that when we learned what it is, we're like, oh, okay, well, suddenly you see it differently. I think that you're, I think you're correct, Will, it's, we just do not know. And until we get the information, which I'm sure light will be shed on it sooner rather
Starting point is 00:47:19 than later, then we can comment with some intelligence on this. But again, it's a race to get out of the blocks and have the best take or the most controversy will take immediately or to try to politicize it to your advantage in some way or another and use it as your bully pulpit. So that's what's going on now. And until we get more information, people would probably be better served to just tune it out and not even really look at what people have to say about it today because it's all conjecture. This is for what it's worth. And I don't think we're in this climate anymore. We could be. I don't know. This is the exact kind of story when I spent my five years of ESPN that would get you branded racist.
Starting point is 00:48:03 It wasn't just trying to get clicks. It was trying to buy an insurance policy that no one would ever call you a racist. Like if you run out there quick and blame it on racism, then no one calls you a racist. And if I, and really mostly all I ever did on these kinds of cases that came up over and over on as ESPN is have the take that you and I are saying right now, well, you don't know, you don't know that that's a noose in Bubba Wallace's garage. You know, whatever. You don't know, da da da, da, da, oh, you're a racist for not immediately deeming it racism i don't think we're there popularly anymore but um there was a time that was what it wasn't just clicks it was insurance policies that forced everyone to adopt adopt that point of
Starting point is 00:48:42 view all right i want to ask you about this ricky as well uh i got my dac prescott jersey out here i thought i was going on to tell me larren's fearless show today on outkick and i was going to wear this because she says men shouldn't wear jerseys uh but dac six years 240 million what do you think rickie i think the expectations are sky high there's high as the salary will and the cowboys i don't have to tell you we're going on 30 years now jerry jones has made a lot of money jerry jones is the most influential man in the NFL jerry jones has been light on the that Cowboys fans crave so desperately. So, Zach, I've never been a huge Dack Prescott guy.
Starting point is 00:49:38 I think he's obviously a very good quarterback. I have never considered him to be the absolute top tier guy. I've always thought he was just kind of right at the top of the second tier, maybe the bottom of the first tier. but this is it. His legacy is going to be determined by what happens over the course of this contract. Okay, but would you have given him the money, Ricky? Would you have given him this contract?
Starting point is 00:50:09 By the way, I said six. It's four years, $240 million. It's $60 million a year. $60 million. Would you have given him this contract? Under the, what's the alternative? He's been there for a long time. He's the guy.
Starting point is 00:50:22 If I was starting from scratch, I don't think he's necessarily. the guy that I would want to invest in, but let's face it. Jerry Jones isn't getting any younger. He's the guy who is there. He's been there for a long time. He's obviously very talented. I think they've just got to ride with him. They're at a point where we're past the point in no return with Dak Prescott as the Cowboys guy. So Jerry certainly has the money. I think if I were in Jerry's shoes, I think I would have probably taken the same round on Honestly. Yes, you have to. Here's the thing. People do this. And you kind of did it there for a minute. That's why I pressed you on. Would you give him the contract? I've never thought of him as whatever, X. And the easiest one is to say the best quarterback in the NFL, much less the best ever, because now he is the highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Not only that, he is the highest played player ever in the NFL. But he won't be for long. This is exactly how it goes when it comes to quarterbacks. And you had to, because this is the price of paying for.
Starting point is 00:51:30 And I agree with you somewhat, bottom of the first tier, top of the second tier, which puts him somewhere around 7, 8, 9, 10 in that range. Top 10 quarterback, but probably closer to 10 than to 1. And this is the price to have one of those guys. And the next guy who's in that same range that comes up, guess what he'll get? $61 million a year or more, right? Jordan Love played half a season for Green Bay. and got $55 million a year.
Starting point is 00:51:58 It just shows the importance of the position and the scariness of not having a guy like that, even if he can't win the Super Bowl. Because, God forbid, you end up the New York Giants with Daniel Jones, right? Or name your NFL franchise. This is the cost of doing business in the NFL. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Is he overpaid relative to the Patrick Mahomes and Josh, Allen and Joe Burrow and guys like that. Yeah, he is. He's overpaid talent-wise compared to get quarterbacks who are better. And I agree with you. He's, I wouldn't put him in the top five. But what's Dallas's alternative, really?
Starting point is 00:52:43 What's their alternative to overpay somebody else and bring somebody else in and have that person learn the system and try to go forward from there? He won't be the highest paid player in the NFL for very long. you're spot on with that. This contract is, I mean, it's a big old contract. But DAC Prescott was the best option that the Cowboys had currently. And I think that for all the criticism, the contract's going to receive. And as I've said, I'm not really a DAC guy.
Starting point is 00:53:14 I think it's the right move. And I think that men can wear jerseys as well. So we'll rock that jersey fearlessly. Just not. Just not the jerseys the Giants wore in week one. I saw your tweet, which was hilarious about, they looked like Michigan procreated with the Montreal Canadiens and ended up, and by the way, they were first cousins
Starting point is 00:53:36 and ended up with the New York Giants in week one. It was a horrible looking uniform. I also saw a clip of it, and it looked like they're pantsless. I think it was their punter with his red socks up to his knees and his jersey untucked, and it looks like he's playing football without pants on. Let's talk about you, Rick. You got the Ricky Cobb show on Outkick. I didn't know this.
Starting point is 00:53:54 So you're now at Outkick. At one time you were at Vice. I don't think I knew that. And you had a connection to Jimmy Kimmel. They produced your show at Vice. Is that right? Yeah, yeah. Probably about four or five years ago,
Starting point is 00:54:10 Jimmy Kimmel reached out to me and was interested in seeing if we could turn the Twitter feed into some sort of a television program. And ultimately we did. We lasted for a season over on Vice. always joke that vice is like going into the FBI witness protection program, hard to find you over there. But yeah, I co-produced a show with Jimmy Kimmel that was on Vice called the Super Maximum Retro Show. And I caught heat for that from people that disagreed with Kimmel's
Starting point is 00:54:46 politics. And obviously, I know the direction you're going here. Coming to Outkick, I've been catching heat from people who don't like their perception of Outkicks politics. So I've tasted a little bit of... What do you mean heat? Is that on your X replies, or did you hear from Jimmy Kimmel? For the show? Yeah, for the heat you're getting now for joining Outkick. Oh, the heat that I'm joining that.
Starting point is 00:55:14 No, no, no. That's not from Jimmy Kimmel. That's just from people who don't like Outkick. You know, and I got the same heat. for being aligned with Jimmy Kimmel. You know, no, no, I haven't gotten any criticism from any name people at all. But the criticism comes from the general public because we're so tribal now in our culture that, you know, people think that if you are aligned in any way with someone that they dislike, then you must be a terrible person. and I've seen it from the left
Starting point is 00:55:54 and I saw it from the right when I was involved in the project with Kim. Well, it hasn't stopped you from getting good guests. You had Joe Thysman today, I think, right? I saw you had, you've had a lot of good guests. Maybe it was last week you had Jim Everett, which I watched that because I love the Jim Everett, Jim Rome moment, and you talk to him about that moment,
Starting point is 00:56:16 which, by the way, what was surprising about that interview is he told you that they had talked about, about it a little bit ahead of time meaning not it not that it was a work that they had talked about the fact that rome had been calling him chris and rome had apparently assinuated maybe during the commercial break to him i'm going to call you chris and ever it was like have fun with it a little bit okay but ever was upset that he called him chris uh chris everett too many times like he felt like and then you watched the real clip and it wasn't it was only like
Starting point is 00:56:48 three times before Everett lost his temper. So it's like, I don't know, if what he told you behind the scenes is true, he sure got to the end of his rope quick with like two or three invocations of Chris Everett before he flipped the table and tackled Jim Rome. And made Jim Rome, by the way. If I'm Jim Rome, I'm praising Jim Everett all the way to the bank for that moment. Yeah, it's the best thing that ever happened to Jim Rome. If we subscribe to the no such thing as bad publicity philosophy, he has, he
Starting point is 00:57:18 And he didn't know he was going to be on Rome's show when he got there. He thought that he was going to be doing a different program. And then he found out that it was. Roy Firestone. Yeah. Yeah. And Roy Firestone is kind of the antithesis of Jim Rome. So you think you're going to sit down and Roy Firestone's going to try to make you cry with some poignant questions.
Starting point is 00:57:42 And instead you got this Jim Rome taunting you situation. unfolding. But yeah, I've been blessed with some great guests. I had Brett Farrv on last week. I've had Daryl Strawberry, Dale Murphy, Boomer Asiason, a whole bunch of great guests. So it's been a lot of fun out of the gate with so many people that I've been genuinely interested in speaking to. That's great. And you can check that out at Outkick, the Ricky Cobb show. By the way, I have a few more questions. Vice, it's interesting you say that's like going into the Witness Protection Program. I'm always been fascinated by vice, Ricky.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Like, and I don't have a, I'm not, I'm not grinding an axe. When they first came out, I was like, this is really kind of interesting what they're doing, specifically sending those reporters out into like really odd places of the world to do, you know, weird stories. It was, it was interesting. And they kept raising money. And then I started noticing, like, it gets very little engagement on Twitter and all the other. It gets very little.
Starting point is 00:58:45 And you start wondering, what was the audience? Like, I'm sure they're. was some audience but i have to wonder looking back on that how much of that was a con meaning were they paying for audience what were they doing because it's implosion and fall off it's really only um surpassed by i would say deadspin or something like that like you know where you were here up here now you're way down here and it makes me wonder how real the up here was for vice it's a good question i was no expert on vice by any means when the opportunity came along you're in my shoes i'm a community college professor and suddenly it's like hey you're going to get a tv show
Starting point is 00:59:28 where's it going to be i think vice might be a good fit well okay you know my concern has always been with what i do less so than the platform and so that people perceive what they're going to perceive about you based on whatever they're going to base it on. That's one thing that I'm sure you know better than I do will. But as I get into this, you know, the show's been on for about a month now. And the thing that I'm learning very quickly is that people are going to perceive what they're going to perceive. And lots of times that has little to no basis, sometimes zero basis in reality but you can't really disabuse somebody of a position that they've taken on faith and i've always said when i was advice it was like hey look judge me on the quality of this show that's the
Starting point is 01:00:20 only thing that i have any control over same thing without kids people say well i don't like clay Travis or whatever you know i happen to like clay Travis but people who say well i don't like clay Travis or whatever it's like well you know i'm not i'm not clay Travis i'm not jimmy kimmel either me. It's like, I understand if you don't like Jimmy Kimmel, well, that's okay. Last time I checked, my name wasn't Jimmy Kimmel. So, you know, what I would like for people to, you know, judge the merits of what I do on the, on the quality of the program. And I'm certainly, I'm certainly grateful to Clay Travis and Outkick for giving me an opportunity. I can say that, you know, I have a lot more creative control and Outkick than I had over the Kimmel
Starting point is 01:01:04 project. And that has been very gratifying. no you're not those guys you're you're you look instead like a extra from dazed and confused i mean you're living the 70s look right here or or a southern a southern rock band yeah by the way speaking of like you look like marshal tucker band like let's go ahead like just if we could take the marshal tucker band or the pure prairie league and turn it into human form it's ricky cop um pure prairie league band uh and by way you got a stand up video game in your background What is that? Is that Frogger?
Starting point is 01:01:38 I'm only going to be happy if it's like Frogger or Gallagher. All right. Well, then you're going to be happy. It's Gallagher. Although it's loaded. Yeah. It's got Frogger on it and Pac-Man
Starting point is 01:01:51 and a whole bunch of games on it. But it's a Gallagher console. Yeah. There we go. All right. Last topic with Ricky, since he's new here at Outkick, which is a subsidiary of Fox.
Starting point is 01:02:06 He's under, let's be real, a ton of conflict of interest when I ask him this question, so no pressure, Ricky. And what did you think about Tom Brady and his debut at Fox? Man, you know, Tom Brady's debut was as anticipated, I think, as any of the rookie players' debuts, if not more. I don't know what people are expecting. I mean, he was fine. He was fine.
Starting point is 01:02:34 He was okay. he certainly is going to get better as time goes on. You know that you've got the work ethic and he's got the football knowledge and he cleans up real nice. So I don't have any reason to expect Tom Brady to be anything less than good. Is he going to be as good as Greg Olson? Greg Olson, by popular acclaim, was pretty damn good. Is Brady going to be as good as Greg Olson? Olson, I don't know, but Tom obviously qualified for the gig by being the greatest
Starting point is 01:03:10 quarterback who ever drew a breath of air, and he's going to get room clearly to grow in this position for as long as he wishes to do it. But I would say for an initial outing, I don't know what, I don't know if people thought he was going to come down and, you know, part the sea and change broadcasting as we knew it. If they were expecting that, it didn't happen. But certainly a competent first performance, and I think he's going to be pretty good. So I think my analysis is the same, and I'm rooting for Brady, not because I work for Fox. I've just grown to like Brady. I've never met the guy, but I've grown to like Brady and his commitment to excellence. I don't know that that was excellent, but it was a fine
Starting point is 01:03:57 debut, and I do think he'll get much better. And I'll be specific. I think that, and I watched the whole game, he did the Cowboys Browns. I think a little more personality and enthusiasm for the moment in the way that was harnessed by Tony Romo. So, for example, if Brandon Aubrey kicks a 66-yard field goal, which I think that would tie the NFL record, that's a big moment. Like, let's get excited. And if he's going to attempt after a penalty negates that, a 71-yarder, which he
Starting point is 01:04:26 didn't end up doing, but they ran him out there, that's a huge moment. And it's okay to be like really excited and meet that moment. When Dak Prescott has a guy, a blitzer, in his face, and he throws drifting backwards over the top to Brandon Cooks for like a 30-yard touchdown, that's a huge moment. Like, let me feel it a little bit. And you don't have to overdo it. There are guys that overdo it. But don't, I don't think you should underdo it either. And then, more importantly than that, though, you're cerebrally probably the best to ever do it.
Starting point is 01:04:58 So I do want added value. Like, how did it happen? and break it down and give me the thing that I can't see with my own eyes, even if I'm not just a casual viewer. So I want to know, like, what do you think the quarterback saw? What coverage is? And so therefore, how do he manipulate the defense or how did he read it? Or what gave him trouble from the defense?
Starting point is 01:05:19 All of that that I know Tom Brady can do. And he will do. And maybe we shouldn't expect that from game one, right? Like, everybody has to. I'm not the broadcaster. You know, I wasn't the broadcaster I am today when I first started. just a fact of life. It's just how it works, right? So I'm way better at Fox and Friends than I was four years ago when I started doing Fox and Friends. I was way better at first take, a year or two
Starting point is 01:05:40 into that. All of us, I'm not just talking about me. All of us are like that. And he will. He'll get way, way, way better. You know why I think I believe that? Because the things that I'm asking for from him aren't unavailable to him. He is those things. He's smart. He has excitement. He has personality. And he'll get there with the reps. The game will slow down and he'll get enthusiastic and give me deeper insight. Yeah, I'm not worried at all about his long-term prognosis as an announcer. He's going to be very good, I think. Is he going to be as good an announcer as he was a quarterback? Well, that's a big ask, right? In order to do that, he's got to be the greatest, he's got to be the greatest color guy that there's ever been. And
Starting point is 01:06:25 there have been some really good ones. So I don't know. Who's number one? By the way, if Brady were having to climb those ranks, right? Let's do it together. Number one, and then you're super 70s guys, so I can only imagine. Number one's Madden, right? Madden's the best to ever do it in the color seat. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Yes. Okay. And then after Madden, then the really interesting conversation begins. I'm just brainstorming to put them on the table. Of course, you've got Romo, Aikman, Collinsworth, doing it now. Now, Herb Street's doing it now on Thursday nights without Michaels. In the past, you had, help me out here, especially in the 70s and 80s, who was the crew on the other network? Yeah, I always enjoyed Joe Olson with Dick Amberg was always very solid.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Bob Trumpy was pretty good back in the day. Don Meredith. Yeah, Dandy Don Meredith. So there are guys who have been great and had their own inimitable style as well. And so it's going to be hard for Brady to stand out. I think what you're saying, what he really has to sell is that nobody has probably ever looked at the chess pieces on the chess board with greater authority than Tom Brady. And so I want him to be able to bring that kind of knowledge and
Starting point is 01:07:57 distill it to me in a way that I can at least digest some of it and be a smarter fan at the end of a Tom Brady broadcast by even a fraction than I was at the beginning. If he can tap into that, then he's going to be cooking. But I think we've got to realize the first year, you were saying, Will, like in your own journey as a broadcaster, and I'm early into my journey as a broadcaster, and I am hyper aware of how much room for growth I have as I'm hosted the Ricky Cobb show. So, you know, you've been at it for a good long while. It doesn't come overnight.
Starting point is 01:08:37 It doesn't just come in a few weeks. And I think we've kind of got to give him a grace period. And we'd like to see a nice trajectory as the season goes on. But I think we've got to realize this is his rookie year. And he's a rookie. This isn't 20 plus year seven Super Bowl, Tom Brady. This is a guy who is in a new environment. Iron Manning, yes, as you said, he possesses all the requisites.
Starting point is 01:09:01 But it's going to take a little while for him to piece all of that together. Well, you're doing great at the launch of the Ricky Cobb show. You may have a lot of room to grow, but you have a great starting point. And everybody should check it out on Outkick, the Ricky Cobb show. Love to having you on the Will Kane show today, Ricky. Thank you so much. Thank you, Will. Pleasure.
Starting point is 01:09:21 All right. Again, check it them out over at Outkick.com. Maybe we should do that tomorrow. Maybe we should do the top five color commentators in the history of football. We forgot the offensive lineman that was on Monday, not football forever. What's his name? Is it Dan? What's two days in Timphopat and Jeff?
Starting point is 01:09:42 Dan Deerholf? Deerdorf. That sounds close, but not right. Deerdorf. Yeah, he was good. He was good. Dan Fouts was in there for a while. Yeah, we need to do a top five.
Starting point is 01:09:56 If Brady were to climb the rankings, what does he have to scale? We'll do that tomorrow. And more, as we get you ready for Kamala Harris versus Donald Trump, the first and only debate tomorrow. We'll talk about it on The Will Kane Show. podcast. And Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show, ad free on the Amazon music app. Listen to the all-new Brett Bear podcast featuring Common Ground, in-depth talks with lawmakers from opposite sides of the aisle, along with all your Brett Bear favorites, like his all-star panel, and much more. Available now at foxnewspodcasts.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

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