Will Cain Country - Trump on Epstein Files: “We Have Nothing to Hide” (ft. Benny Johnson & Desmond Eastwood)

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

Story 1: No matter the headline, the top comment is always the same four words: “Release the Epstein Files.” Last week, that demand finally paid off. The House Oversight Committee released more th...an 20,000 emails between Jeffrey Epstein and his associates. Will breaks down some of the most shocking revelations from the email dump, including one instance where Epstein appeared to advise a sitting U.S. representative in real time as she questioned Michael Cohen.Story 2: Host of ‘The Benny Show,’ Benny Johnson joins Will to discuss the decline of interest in marriage among young women, and what America’s affordability crisis has to do with it. Benny also goes over the overwhelmingly positive reception to the recent giveaway of Charlie Kirk ‘Freedom’ shirts at the UFC event at Madison Square Garden on Saturday night.Story 3: Actor Desmond Eastwood sits down with Will to share about his recent portrayal of St. Patrick in FOX Nation’s ‘Martin Scorsese Presents: The Saints.’ Desmond describes the challenges he faced in portraying a figure as widely deified as St. Patrick, how he approached playing the character, and how public perception of St. Patrick differs between Ireland and America.In ‘Final Takes,’ Will and The Crew discuss Billionaire Bill Ackman’s advice to young men looking to find love, and Arch Manning’s performance in the recent Texas-Georgia game. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠@willcainshow⁠), Instagram (⁠@willcainshow⁠), TikTok (⁠@willcainshow⁠), and Facebook (⁠@willcainnews⁠) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:40 It is Will Kane Country on a Monday. Thank you for joining us at the Will Cain Country YouTube channel. Drop into the comments section, become a member of our community. Leave a comment. Become a member of Wilcane Country. Become a member of the show, the Wallitia. The Epstein email dump has been begged for, asked for, pleaded for, cajoled. You can't drop into a comment section on any article in modern day politics. We could be going to war with Russia. And one of your top five comments would be, release the Epstein files. There could be a post at Fox News Instagram that alien warships are hovering over Manhattan.
Starting point is 00:02:24 And one of the top five comments would be, release the Epstein files. left and right. Silent for years. Now demanding the answers is the left. Last week, we got a dump of Jeffrey Epstein emails. And that has led to this from President Donald Trump. Posting on truth social, he said, as I said on Friday night aboard Air Force One to the fake news media, House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein files because we have nothing to hide. And it's time to move on. from this Democrat hoax perpetrated by the radical left lunatics in order to deflect from the great success of the Republican Party, including our recent victory on the Democrat shutdown. The DOJ has already turned over tens of thousands of pages to the public on Epstein, and they're looking at various Democrat operatives. Bill Clinton, Reid Hoffman, Larry Summers, and their relationship to Jeffrey Epstein. I don't care, all caps.
Starting point is 00:03:33 All I do care about is Republicans getting back on point, which is the economy. As mentioned by President Trump, tens of thousands of emails released last week. What did we learn about Jeffrey Epstein? Story number one. Silence for years, disinterest, ignoring, and purposely questioning, and purposely, Quashing stories about Jeffrey Epstein. Now the left and Democrats think it is the biggest story in America. We know that this was quashed by mainstream media because there's a famous video of Amy Robach at ABC talking about the years she spent investigating Jeffrey Epstein only to be mysteriously shut down.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I know it's one of the most taboo subjects and the diet of media consumption in America. And it all points to one, not answer, but one question. Why? Why were Democrats silent about this issue for five years? Less curious is why Democrats have been carrying the torch over the last year when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein. Because they believe that it incriminates their number one guiding light. They believe that their North Star will be exposed. They believe that it will show something about President.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Donald Trump. And it is true. In the tens of thousands of emails now released from Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump is mentioned thousands of times. And yet, amidst that deluge of references to Donald Trump, nothing incriminating about the president. Oh, Jeffrey Epstein goes on and on about the president. He's angry at the president. He hates the president. He thinks the president is stupid. He says that the president knew about the girls. He says the president is the dog that hasn't barked. But a lawyer involved in this case thinks that is a reference to Donald Trump ratting out Jeffrey Epstein to local police. Jeffrey Epstein is a noted liar, a fabulous, a criminal, completely irreputable, and yet still nothing incriminating Donald Trump. But it does raise some very interesting questions about other. people, as referenced by the president. What about Larry Summers?
Starting point is 00:06:03 In an article at The Guardian, in which the headline reads, The Banality of Evil, how Epstein's powerful friends normalized him. David Smith writes, long after his conviction for sexual abuse, people in royalty, academia, business, journalism, and politics sought his ear. Why? This article by David Smith lays out name after name, famous person after famous person, powerful person after powerful person in every walk of the elite circles of life turning for counsel using as their consigliary the already convicted abuser of underage girls, Jeffrey Epstein. He had a conviction for abusing underage girls in two. 2008, over the subsequent 10 to 15 years, you can see maintained communication, maintained place of esteem from the likes, for example, of Harvard's Larry Summers. Let's walk through a few names, starting together with Larry Summers.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Larry Summers is a noted economist. His name pops up in every administration advising Barack Obama and President Donald Trump. He's also a noted critic, every election cycle, most notably of Republicans. He got in trouble, you'll remember some years ago, because Larry Summers said that women had trouble keeping up in the hard sciences with men. And in fact, that's one of the things that comes up with Jeffrey Epstein. Dave Smith writes in The Guardian, Larry Summers, who was Treasury Secretary under Bill Clinton, and later President of Harvard University, discussed his interactions with a woman, and Epstein offered coaching. on his response, writing, You reacted well.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Annoyed shows caring. No whining showed strength. That's Epstein's coaching to Larry Summers. In another email, Summers opined, I'm trying to figure out why American elite think if you murder your baby by beating an abandonment, it must be irrelevant to your admission to Harvard. But hit on a few women 10 years ago and can't work at a network or think tank, all caps. Do not repeat this insight.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Summers turned to Epstein about how. to approach women, how to deal with women, how to deal with harassment, how to deal with Harvard. Why? Why Jeffrey Epstein? Catherine Rumler, also a Democrat who worked as White House counsel under Barack Obama, sent a message to Epstein calling Trump, quote, so gross. A portion of that message has been redacted, but Epstein replied, worse in real life
Starting point is 00:08:53 and up close. And other emails, though, with Rumler-Ebbstein detailed of whirlwind of well-known people he appears to be meeting with, hosting, or speaking with that week, including an ambassador, a tech giant, foreign business people, academics, and a film director, quote, you're welcome guest at any, said Epstein. Why? Why was White House counsel to Barack Obama so concerned with the scheduling arrangements and connected to and communicating with a convicted sex offender? Why was everyone so interested in Jeffrey Epstein? And by everyone, I mean everyone. Smith, again, catalogs in The Guardian. In several messages in 2018, Epstein advised longtime Trump ally Steve Bannon on his political tour of Europe.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Bannon forwarded Epstein a news clip that described the German media as underestimating Bannon and saying he was as dangerous as ever. Epstein responded, love it. Epstein wrote that he just spoke into one country's leaders that we discussed, and we should lay out a strategy plan. How much fun. And here was advice Epstein gave the Bannon. If you're going to play here, meaning Europe, you have to spend time. Europe, by remote, doesn't work. It's doable, but time-consuming.
Starting point is 00:10:17 There are many leaders of countries we can organize for you to have a one-on-one with. Bannon replied, agree 100%. How do I do that? Why? You'll notice in these communications that Jeffrey Epstein speaks, both in text and in email, very clipped, love it, L-U-V-I-T, half-thoughts, quarter-thoughts, quick responses. In fact, to show just how connected Jeffrey Epstein was all the way up until the end, all the way up until the end, long after, not just his conviction in 2008, but the revelations about who he was. he was and what he was doing, he remained connected. Most notably, he remained connected with Democrats. Stacey Plaskett is the Democrat Congresswoman from the Virgin Islands. There are
Starting point is 00:11:03 suggestions in reporting. The Jeffrey Epstein has been connected, of course, because island boy Jeffrey Epstein to Stacey Plaskett. The Washington Post, the Washington Post, has a fascinating deep dive into Jeffrey Epstein's text messages. Now that all this has been released with timestamps, day and time. And you know, they noticed something fascinating. Some of these texts with Plaskett were at the very same time that Michael Cohen was being cross-examined by the House of Representatives. Plaskett is in the chamber. She is preparing to ask Cohen questions, and she's texting with Jeffrey Epstein about what to ask. This is totally fascinating. In two days, I think you have a video. I mean, this is damning. This should be one of the top stories in America.
Starting point is 00:11:49 in essence, Jeffrey Epstein was running a House hearing on questioning Michael Cohen. Watch this from The Washington Post. This was when Barack Obama was president of the United States. And while we were once driving through a struggling neighborhood in Chicago, he commented that only black people could live that way. Attorney Klein privilege, yes, I will turn it over. You as my friend, Mr. Meadows, pointed out, misled this committee, even today in a written submission that contradicted your testimony. You have suggested you're
Starting point is 00:12:22 going to review that. Did you review, are you going to review it in our next break to correct the record, yes or no? Yes. Question, you helped out the president's campaign or were involved in the campaign as a representative, as a spokesman, even in your words today. It was your idea for the campaign dating back to 2011. Is that accurate? Yes or no. Yes. Mr. Weisenberg and other individuals, Ms. Rona, who are those individuals? Are they with the Trump organization. There are other people that we should be meeting with. So Alan Weisselberg is the chief financial officer. Uh-huh. You got to quickly give us as many names as you can so we can get to them. Yes, ma'am. As Ms. Rona, what is Ms. Rona's? Rona Graf is the Mr.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Trump's executive assistant. And would she be able to corroborate many of the statements that you've made here? Yes, she was her offices directly next to his and she's involved in a lot. That on. Stunning. Stunning. Jeffrey Epstein running oversight hearing, investigative hearing with Michael Cohen.
Starting point is 00:13:30 So if you're listening on radio or on Spotify and Apple, let me describe for you what you just heard. This was a C-SPAN video of Michael Cohen's testimony before Congress. During it, because the C-SPAN video is time-stamped, and they now have Jeffrey Epstein's texts that are timestamped.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Here's what you couldn't see if you were listening. during the questioning of other congressmen you heard chip roy's voice and a few others voice there you see texts going back and forth between plaskett and epstein plaskett looks down at her phone it's all on video right there it's zoomed in on her so as the text comes in from epstein she looks down at her phone and epstein's like ask about wisenberg ask about rona she responds who is rona what is rona is that an acronym and he doesn't answer right away. And he says something else, I think, like leading her, again, in these half-clips, half-thoughts, quarter-thought, text. And she goes, quick, I'm up next. What is Rona? And Epstein
Starting point is 00:14:29 responds, that's his assistant, the keeper of the secrets. But one thing Rona, one thing Epstein never says is Rona's last name. It's really fascinating. And she looks up, and it's her turn to question. And she says to Cohen, what about Wisenberg? What about Ms. Rona? Alan Weisenberg and Ms. Rona. She doesn't use the last name because she doesn't know. 30 seconds ago, she was concerned it might have been an acronym and not a person. And Cohen answers about Weisenberg. And she goes, and what about Ms. Rona repeating?
Starting point is 00:15:00 Ms. Rona, he goes, oh, that's Rona Graf, his executive assistant whose office is right next to Mr. Trump's. And then a text comes in from Epstein. Good work. This is stunning. It's absolutely stunning. Jeffrey Epstein, member of Congress. owning members of Congress at the very least. But it's not just Bannon.
Starting point is 00:15:24 It's not just Romler. It's not just Larry Summers. Physicist Lawrence Krauss faced sexual harassment allegations. He emailed Epstein for advice on how to handle the journalist's integrity, inquiry. To which Epstein said, he asked Krause, did you have sex with the person in question? and then told him not to reply to the journalist. There's a ton of text and emails about Bill Clinton, about Bill Clinton. Other people saying, your boy, Bill Clinton.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I met your boy at Davos. Epstein saying something about Clinton. And back and forth, like Clinton and girls, and it's all like a boys club, and they all know each other. And we're supposed to just ignore, by the way, amidst all this, that Epstein has a painting of Bill Clinton. in high heels and address? What in the world is going on?
Starting point is 00:16:20 Physicist, Harvard presidents, Russian foreign minister, Sergey Lavarov, Congresspeople in the United States, all turning to Jeffrey Epstein, Nome Chomsky, linguist, MIT, and political activists, huge lefty, artist, Andre Serrano,
Starting point is 00:16:45 Peter Thiel, the names go on and on. The emails go on and on. And while there's nothing overwhelmingly accriminating about one particular person or another, and certainly not about President Trump, who only shows up in reference, not communicating with Deppstein, there's so many questions like, what are they doing after he has been convicted of basically pedophilia, underage, sexual abuse, in 08. Now he's a scandal. Now he's all over the news. What are they still doing turning to him for advice?
Starting point is 00:17:19 It doesn't make sense. You're not, Jeffrey Epstein is, he's not Wall Street's number one financier. He's not top five. He's not top ten. What's going on? Why people, academics, finance, politics are turning to Jeffrey Epstein. Why? that's the question i think
Starting point is 00:17:47 democrats have been asking for a long time people in comment sections release the epstein files so the epstein files and we can care about it for five years but release the epstein files now you're getting the epstein files and as asked for by president trump you may get more when it comes to geoffrey epstein what are you going to do when you get all of this and it doesn't lead you down the primrose path that you thought it did and you get to finally get the boogeyman that you have associated for 10 years with everything bad about America. What do you get when you only get more questions? Why? With Jeffrey Epstein. Why are young women ready to leave America and why are they not ready to get married to young men?
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Starting point is 00:20:19 It is Will Kane Country streaming at the Will Kane Country YouTube channel, the Fox News, Facebook page. Follow us at Spotify or on Apple. If they're already here, as they have been on several previous occasions, the fans of the Benny Show, we welcome you in to Will Kane Country, and we now welcome in your leader. Benny Johnson here, the host of the Benny show. What's up, Benny? A benevolent dictator, yes, of the chat. What up, chat?
Starting point is 00:20:45 How are we doing today? Will, I just got to start off the top of the dome, bro. Bro, I got to start off the top of the dome. You did the World of Service with your H-1B, absolute flamethrower, scorched earth-sulting of that program. That is a program that is destroying the lives of upwardly mobile Americans. it is a total scam. The 01 visa is also a scam,
Starting point is 00:21:08 but bro, you had the balls to straight up say it. And so, like, hats off to you, man. Well, thank you, man. I mean, I don't know what kind of balls it took, I guess, because in, you know, I guess because President Trump might not wanted to hear that in that moment or, you know, the current administration's not,
Starting point is 00:21:27 I think, living up necessarily on that issue to the ideals of America first. But, you know, this is a movement that I'm sure you and I know that I believe in that has to outlast any one man and the point of America first is to serve the interest
Starting point is 00:21:43 and I think the job and prospects and family life and future of Americans is at the core center of it we're going to have to. We can't just import the world even their quote unquote best and the brightest if Americans fall by the side of the road
Starting point is 00:21:55 and so we're going to have to fight. We're going to fight. Unfortunately, for some reason we have to fight for Americans. Yeah, my brother in Christ, some of these H-1B, visas are for cashier positions. You're telling me that we can't get an American cashier. Yeah. What was your first job? I worked on a hog farm and then I was a waiter. That's what I was doing in Shoeville, Iowa.
Starting point is 00:22:17 That's all you did do in Shoeville, Iowa, where I'm from, like literal middle of nowhere, cornfields, hog farms, trailer parks, man. That's what I did. I did some landscaping, which you don't see many Americans doing landscaping these days. I did some of that. I mean, I can't pretend like I was doing it because, you know, I was scrapping around my first job. I was basically playing cowboy, but I worked on a ranch one of my first jobs up in Montana. That's awesome, man. So, oh, man, that's incredible. That's the dream.
Starting point is 00:22:49 That's the, yeah, that's the dream. We'd have a totally different, I know we're going to talk about women and young men and them not wanting to have sex and get married and create lives and do the things that actually bring like actual eternal happiness. But bro, if we had more young men in this country that went out and did cowboying and learned ranch values and the values of farming, I wasn't a rancher, you know, I was mucking hog stalls, but still good, solid salt of the earth work that you ache from when you're done. But, you know, you feel great and you've been out in the sun all day and you work with your body and your bones and you feel good about yourself, actually. And you go in and you're like filthy. But you're filthy, and then more importantly, instead of seeing a bunch of like spreadsheets,
Starting point is 00:23:36 you see that like a ton of crap, I don't, I'm going to try and be PG-13 here, has been like cleaned out of the stall. You can actually see physical accomplishments, like building fences and stuff. That's so good for young men to just dig a hole or to do real work. It's so valuable for the soul. Young men need more of that, actually, a lot more of that. You know, I agree, Benny, and it's funny you bring that up. One of the things I did in that year that I worked up there was build fences, you know, bar barbed fences.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And by the way, some wood pen fences where you, you know, you drive it into the ground with a pile driver. You dig a hole, then you drive it into ground, then you fill the hole, then you stretch barbed wire. And the most physically exhausted I ever remember being was we had to buck bales of hay. So we did like 80-pound square bales for horses and mules, some alfalfa, some hay. And we weren't a fancy ranch, so, you know, you weren't picking them up with a tractor. You come along with a trailer, and then you get into the field and you stack it onto the trailer. And so you're lifting 80-pound bails over and over, and then you stack it in the barn. I remember going home that day, rash all over my body, mostly my arms, because you're wearing short sleeve from the hay.
Starting point is 00:24:52 My hands curled, like I couldn't uncurl my hands because you're grabbing bailing wire all day long, doing this with all that weight. And feeling pride. And I would be lying, like, I don't want to over-romanticize what I did because I wasn't doing this because I had to. I actually chose to do this because I knew I needed to because of what you just said. You know, I am from a small town in Texas, but my dad was a small-town attorney. I didn't have to get a blue-collar job. But I knew that for my spirit and my soul and to know what it's like to be a real productive person in this world, I needed to also know another side of labor, another side of work. So that's part of why I did that, Benny.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Like, I needed that job. I wanted that job. I knew there was something missing from my soul. There's a reason why men have always been gravitated towards manual labor. And still, to this day, 90% of electricians and the guys who laid the power lines and the people who are engaging in manual labor are men, the guys that are out on those giant oil platforms in the middle of the Arctic Ocean, right? Like in the Bering Sea, those are dudes, right?
Starting point is 00:25:55 And there's something in your DNA. There's something in your bones, right? that say that I got to, I got to go have that adventure, but more importantly, it'll be good for me. Does anybody really need to do that? I mean, that's a great question, Will. Like, you're like, I didn't need to do it because I had a good family. Well, actually, like, nobody actually needs to go out to the Bering Strait, right? And on those giant, you know, those huge 400-foot waves crashing against it, oil derricks,
Starting point is 00:26:21 they don't think, nobody has to do that. Men actually want to do that, right? Just like nobody has to fly a fighter jet. at Mach 10. Like you don't have to do it. You want to do it, in fact. And I think it's an important difference between men and women. I know this is what we're going to talk about a little bit today.
Starting point is 00:26:39 But yeah. And it's good. It's good. You have a better society when men own that. Exactly. You have a better society when men own that in themselves. And you are around people that you need to be around in this world. The rancher that I worked for is the most important.
Starting point is 00:26:58 people in my life and very formative in my life and you need to you know that experience and also the way that I grew up in a small town informs me a lot like you brought up H1B these are actually tied together because yes it informs who I care about who I know who exists out there in America and who is often forgotten in America yes because and that who are talented by the way like it like it's yes we have enough talent here and all the data by the way proves that all the all the data. The true data is horrific when it comes to the testing of computer programmers, for instance, from the third world versus American computer programmers and technical leads. And like, Americans are so much better at these jobs, but they just command a living wage. And corporate America often likes, and always has, liked indentured servitude and slavery. And they hold the visas over the heads of, yeah, what is a indentured servitude? Army. I would say it's immoral, actually. I would say it's the H-1B program and the I-O-program are morally indefensible. I've never heard anybody argue them because, you know, you can't.
Starting point is 00:28:11 So, you can't. If you're leading a country, if you're supposed to be an American congressman, you're an American, even if you're representing Silicon Valley, like, you're still an American congressman, right? And you're so you're supposed to represent the interest by the American people. Of Americans. And yes. And the H-1B program is. is in order, is designed in order to undercut and to destroy the American worker. It's a, it is an anathema to this nation. It needs to be cut out root and stem. It should be, it should be thrown in the fire, dude.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Throw it into the fire, Frodo. So the, the, the Benny show chat and the Willisha commenting here on YouTube. Marilyn Neig says, so funny to hear these two talk about ranch life. I'm dying. And Alan Daniel says, I'm at work now, but Benny, yo ass don't dig holes home. me you either will it's it's true alan and marlin we i don't anymore i can't claim it that's that's a fact i can i mean i i think somewhere on some old like cell phone device i can show you photos of farmer benny i was just i was just i was just i was helping my buddy next time you're on
Starting point is 00:29:22 the show yeah i want you to bring those i want you to bring those folks i'll bring some ranch ranch life photos i've got they're they're going to be i'm so old they're going to be physical so i'm going to have to scan them into my phone or something something i'm going to have to take a picture and i don't know a picture of a picture but next time we're together bennie bring those photos hey before we get into the men and women thing um let's talk about your weekend you were in new york you were at the ufc event you were hanging out um you were handing out um you were handing out shirts charlie kirk freedom shirts How did that go? Quite amazing.
Starting point is 00:29:56 So I worked with Charlie for the better part of the last 10 years, and that dude was just fearless, and he was fearless in fighting the culture wars. And he understood, obviously, that politics is downstream from culture, and that you have to be able to go into the heart of darkness, and he viewed the college campus as that. So the heart of the dragon of where these parasitic ideas germinate, right? like diversity is our strength and we need infinite infinity h1bs for cashiers right like this all comes from the college campus and so charlie was was omnipresent there and obviously this is something that is his legacy he died doing this you know he died uh he gave his life actually to to try
Starting point is 00:30:43 and um speak truth to kids in their dark places i still to this day i still get chills and goosebumps because he was answering a question about transgender violence when he got shot by a guy who has a furry transgender boyfriend. And now we just found out today that Thomas Crooks, Trump's assassin, also into transgender furry stuff. Like the simulation's broken, man. Something's wrong here. Something's terribly wrong. But maybe a topic for another day. The point is that, like, Charlie was fearless.
Starting point is 00:31:17 and he approached evil by confronting it. And I watched, and the entire country watched New York, where an enormous number of your colleagues. I know we were both at the Patriot Awards a couple of, like two weeks ago, maybe. And, man, like everybody watched that city, which is, by the way, America's capitalist epicenter, still to this day, changing fast, the Empire City, the cities whose skylines, of course, everybody knows. You know, like, it's iconic and you'll never get another New York, and then it falls to communism.
Starting point is 00:31:53 And it did fall. I mean, they're, like the mayor has a lot of power in New York City. They actually are a benevolent. They are a true dictator, not even benevolent. And so it's going to be bad, a really bad role, I think, for New York. And so we decided to go to Madison Square Garden and hand out Charlotte Kirk Freedom Shurst just to be like, you know, this isn't going to deter us. People still want to be free because it's in our bones as Americans. like in our DNA.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And not even I could have predicted the wild success that this was. We've painted out 3,000 shirts in less than 60 minutes. They were going like, you know, hotcakes. And the number one group that really wanted shirts were MIPD cops. It was amazing. Like everyone wanted shirts. Like people were coming up. Everybody wanted a shirt.
Starting point is 00:32:41 But man, the cops would go by and they'd grab like three of them, like stuff in like the pockets of their pants. chance. They're the ones who are going to get defunded under Mondami, right? This guy's like to defund the police radical. And so I guess it shows that there's never, there's one, Charlie's legacy and the legacy of freedom stands strong to the day. And then two, that there's no such thing as a place that's like truly lost. You should never give up on America or the American people. It was really encouraging to see. And then we went right afterwards into UFC and watched my boy Bo Nickel,
Starting point is 00:33:15 K-O-a-D-Dude with a head kick that you could hear out on the street. Probably made some of those cops jump with their freedom shirts on. It was so awesome. Bo Nickle. America First Fighter. Such a badass fighter,
Starting point is 00:33:28 big friend of the president, big support of the president, family freedom, and all the ideals that Charlie was espousing. So it was actually like a beautiful symphony of great Charlie legacy moments. And then to go in and see the,
Starting point is 00:33:41 Bo, who talks very openly about how much he loved Charlie Kirk and how much he follows the, you know, life, love, marriage, have a million kids. He does, in fact, believe in that and do that. And he said so when Joe Rogan was interviewing him after the fight. But man, he just like, he just yeated a guy. And it was awesome. It's a great night. Bo, Bill Nicol, going to be on the Will Kane show a little bit later today, 4 o'clock
Starting point is 00:34:05 Eastern time. Make sure you tune in for that interview with Bo Nickel. Here is some of what Benny and our friend Jack Posobic did outside of Madison Square Garden. Watch. Yo, what's up, guys? You ever thought you'd see so many Freedom shirts in downtown, Manhattan, Madison Square Garden. Ladies and gentlemen, Johnny Johnson. The boys are based. Ladies and gentlemen, Benny Johnson, watch. We got UFC tonight, and we got Freedom shirts out here.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Look at this. We've handed out thousands of them so far. and ladies and gentlemen, they thought that they could run a communist and take over America's greatest city? No, no, no, no. Last week, Benny, I took my son, I have one of these freedom shirts. I took my son to a Dallas Mavericks game. He's like, I want to wear that shirt. I'm like, cool, grab the shirt, wear it to Mavericks game.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And he got so many cool comments, people just kind of slyly walk up to him. Awesome shirt, awesome shirt. That's in Dallas, Texas. I'm curious, although that video reflects and the demand reflects a great amount of support for Charlie Kirk and the movement. It is still New York City. It's UFC, so it's the self-selective crowd, but it's still Madison Square Garden right there in Midtown. Any negativity? Any pushback at all to this movement? No. No. Not even from the people that you'd expect. No. And I'm not saying that there was 100% literacy from the people that were taking the shirts. Like not every single one
Starting point is 00:35:32 of them came up and said, yes, this is Iconagra. This is Charlie Kirk iconography, right? I think that it's just the message that resonated with people. There were a couple people that were wondering, what's the catch? And the catch is that, like, you support freedom. And that's just bread in the bone here. It's in our DNA. And it's woven into who we are as a people. And it's woven into our heritage.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And the heritage of New York City is the heritage of the American Revolution. So the greatest revolutionary war battles and achievements fought there in New York. And it's just nice to see it still alive today. what happens next, you know, unfortunately, for a place like New York, you got to just, like, suffer. And that's what needs to happen. And we all see what happens, like between South Korea and North Korea. And I think you're going to have something similar like that in New York City. I think people are going to flee.
Starting point is 00:36:24 I think you're going to have some major collapse there in the city. And, you know, you're going to be able to see it. And so then, and then they, and then people end up changing their ways. There's no such thing as a permanent red state. There's no such thing as a permanent blue state. I think red state should understand that. Blue state should understand that. Texas should absolutely understand that, right?
Starting point is 00:36:45 They want so badly to flip Texas purple. And so it's constant vigilance. Why are young ladies ready to move out of the United States, but not ready to get married? Let's have that conversation with the host of the Benny Show. Benny Johnson on Wilcane Country. This Giving Tuesday, Cam H is counting on your support. Together, we can forge a better path for mental health by creating a future where Canadians can get the help they need when they need it, no matter who or where they are. From November 25th to December 2nd, your donation will be doubled.
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Starting point is 00:37:50 So join the more than 400,000 Canadian entrepreneurs who already count on us, and contact Desjardin today. We'd love to talk, business. Do you think, Benny, before we start talking about some of the things that we both, alluded to, we want to address here together, and that's the issue with men and women. What you think about what's happening on the right? I think it's probably an overstatement to describe what's happening on the right as a civil war, but there's a lot of fractures developing, and the fractures are developing along a lot of fault lines. Those fault lines are in part,
Starting point is 00:38:26 by the way, Charlie's assassination. They are in part, Israel. They are in part policy, as we just discussed, with H-1B visas. They are multitude. And it's largely an online phenomenon, and some of it is a cult of personality between personalities on the right. But it still is a little concerning about where this all heads,
Starting point is 00:38:50 can it stay together, does it fracture apart? What do you make of sort of everything happening right now on the right? I wish that I had printed off this chart. It's quite famous. Maybe your producers can pull it up. It has to do with the intellectual diversity of both movements. And it's a splatter of, you know, blue data points versus red data points.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And, you know, I can show you with, you know, my hands. So this is the Democrat Party, right? It's this really tight cloister of what is acceptable ideas on the left. And there is effectively just like a singular tautology, like a cult. It's like doctrinal, Nicene creed of what is allowed on the left. And then you see the right, it's like this math, it's this at least five or six times larger intellectual diversity of opinions and viewpoints.
Starting point is 00:39:42 And I think that that's good. And I think that what that's going to do is it's going to create Thanksgiving with all your drunk aunts. So our aunts have been like binging off box of wine, okay? And there are a lot of factions and a lot of different families at Thanksgiving in the Republican Party. And they're all drunk. And they're going to get in arguments.
Starting point is 00:40:01 And they're going to fight. And this might be a little reductive. But what matters in the end is that we're family and that there is a winning coalition for President Trump that remains and stays together. Now, President Trump's winning coalition isn't just like a 2016 winning coalition where everyone thought it was a miracle what happened on election night. It was a dominant all seven swing state popular vote winning 90% of counties in America coalition. And so whether you're talking about Israel or Ukraine or Maha, you're going to have like big factions that were pulled together in part because of Charlie. Charlie was the one who united the J.D. Vance and Donald Trump ticket and then obviously the Maha moment. You know, Charlie had sort of some some force majeure's with Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I mean, think about the, think about the diverse, like, I know, diversities are strength. Well, this is kind of maybe proving it's not. Like, think about the literal diversity of the MAGA movement. It's wild, actually. And so you're going to have infighting. You're going to have that. And if as long as it doesn't lead to disintegrationism, which is my major fear, then I think that it's healthy and it's good that people fight it out.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And I'll end with this. Well, the disintegrationist is the thing that I fear the very most. most. And that happens because people crash out or get blackpilled over not enough focus on domestic policy. And the America First Movement is about putting America first and making lives better for Americans caring for your children first instead of the children of the rest of the world. And I think there's even some people inside of the administration that say that there has perhaps been a intoxicating elixir that happens when you inherit the world's largest military and all these military bases and all these embassies and all these interests around the
Starting point is 00:42:05 globe and every world leader is constantly calling you that you can kind of get sidetracked it's the reality distortion vector of Washington DC and I think that they're now like writing the ship and like pulling everything back to domestic policy focused and that's what America First is all about so that's what you that's what you need to keep the coalition together I totally agree that's the guiding light that's the unifying principle just make sure you're constantly filtering everything through the prism of does this serve Americans first? We talked about young men. You met a lot of young men outside of Madison Square Garden.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Here's what we're talking about. This is a poll. It shows girls are now less likely than boys to say they want to get married. It's one of the first times in American history, Benny. Girls in 1993, 83%, so they wanted to get married. It's 76% of boys. Now, it's roughly the same for boys. 74% want to get married, and only 61% of girls want to get married.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Let's just address that first. What do you think is the cause of that? Is that careerism? Is that feminism? What is all of a sudden women not so interested in getting married? Housing. Housing is the key to everything, Will. I know this doesn't going to sound crazy, and people make fun of me for it.
Starting point is 00:43:25 But housing. So I go and I talk to campuses. I'm going to go to Clemson tomorrow. I was just at University of Florida. We were just at Auburn with 10,000 people in a stadium. And I asked the same series of questions. I asked the young men, yo, do you want to get married?
Starting point is 00:43:40 Most young men want to get married. By the way, the data that you just put up there proves it. The vast majority of young men want to be married. They raise their hands. And I say, do you want to bring your wife home to the frat house? Is that where you're going to bring her on your wedding? night. And of course, everyone laughs because it's preposterous, actually. And in the mind of young Americans, they're bringing their wife home to their home to their house with a picket fence and a yard
Starting point is 00:44:14 and door that locks the outside world to their castle. All, you know, no kings. Actually, I agree with that. All men, a king is what it was said, what Alexis de Tocqueville said about American men, that we are all kings, actually, because we all have our own homes. And I asked the women in the audience, I go, do you want babies? Do you want children? And, you know, I get it that it's a turning point event, but the vast majority of hands shoot up in these young audiences, these young women. And they say, yes, I want children.
Starting point is 00:44:43 I said, do you want to raise your kids in an apartment building in one room with like a hundred strangers in that building, people's dogs pooping in the elevator? Like, do you want that? and of course they all like the women laugh because of that that's insane like of course nobody wants that these like women want to have children but you have to be able to provide the conditions for this right for the conditions for marriage as poll tested with me a couple dozen times at campuses across the country is that you have to make home buying affordable if you can't buy if If you can't buy a home, you can't get married, you can't get started in life.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Women don't want to have kids and they don't want to start that path with a man who can't do those things. So the average age, the most horrifying data point in the country right now for our nation should be that the average age of a first time home buyer is 40 years old, Will. Well, what is that? That's way past the window of optimum fertility for a woman. women are well aware of this. I mean, you're buying a home for the first time in your 40. That's past the window of time for being a young couple, being married, like having even the vitality to go raise kids and start a family.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Nobody wants to really start a family at 40, spoken by a guy who has a bunch of little kids that I'm pushing 40, right? It's exhausting. But the point is that, like, if you steal away homeownership, and the domicile, the domestic part of this from American men, then you will have a catastrophic downstream effect on American women. And then they'll give up on marriage entirely. And they'll give up on childbirth because there's no men who have any houses.
Starting point is 00:46:39 There's no men that can care for them. And one other, like, little piece of anecdotal data on this is, You know, there was an account on X. I don't know exactly which one it was, but it was some, you know, famous matchmaker lady who has some successful matchmaking business. And she's like, you know, what is with these women these days?
Starting point is 00:46:59 They're like totally okay with dating older men. They come to me, these young beautiful women, they come to me and they say they're totally fine with dating these older guys in their 50s. And that's, I've never seen that in 30 years of doing this. And I think that's because of the regressive and cruel policies that benefit the old at the expense of the young.
Starting point is 00:47:18 young in this country, that we have created a gerontocracy here. And we've cruelly punished young people by pulling up the ladder, closing the door on the American dream for them. And the road for that dream runs directly through homeownership. Always has, always will. And so it needs to be fixed. And needs to be changed now. Otherwise, you're facing civilizational collapse. So I think everything that you said is true. And the math is fascinating on 40-year-old first-time homebuyers is much too late to start a family. I totally agree with you that the American policies have been crafted to the benefit of older Americans. I do wonder about a bit of a chicken and egg effect on why people put off homeownership. Is it because they can't or because
Starting point is 00:48:04 they don't grow up? Why they put off marriage? Is it because they can't or they won't cross over into adulthood? And I do think there's a problem with young women. We've seen the radicalization. We've seen the charts. Young men are actually getting more conservative, young women are getting more liberal. I think a toxic combination of feminism, careerism, has left women very far to the left. And I think that's illustrated in this next, this last thing I want to run by you, which is now two and five young women, so 40% of young women want to leave the United States permanently. That's women 15 to 44 years old, 40% ready to move out of the United States.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Men at the same age, it's about 19%. And by the way, for those older people, women and men 45 and older, you're talking about 8, 10% would move out of the U.S. permanently. So they have a real problem. Young women with their view of the United States, where they think we sit in the world, the type of freedom that we offer to people. And by the way, the defining issue for a lot of young women is often abortion. You should do a survey across the globe of abortion laws. including your beloved Europe. By the way, when people answer this question,
Starting point is 00:49:20 they're not talking about moving to Brazil. They're talking about moving to Europe, almost in-Baroni, Will. They're not talking about going to Beirut, Will. Yeah. No, they're not. You should take a look at abortion laws in these other countries. The United States is some of the most permissive abortion laws in the world. And I think this reflects as much, I'm hesitant to call it ideology,
Starting point is 00:49:44 because I think it's more a bit of neuroticism, that they have been taught, you know, the, we're all living in the handmaid's tail. And I think that's getting in the way of marriage. I think that's getting in the way of family building. I think that's getting in the way of, you know, productive lives in the most productive and best country in the world. True. I would never tell you if I was rich.
Starting point is 00:50:05 If I ever strike it big, though, there will be signs will. And here's going to be the major sign. The Benny Johnson scholarship for young, gifted women, young, gifted left-wing women. It'll be my own H-1B program. Here's how it goes. I will fund any young woman, any of these young women in this chart, I will fund them personally, out of my scholarship, their one-way ticket to a socialist or communist country of their choice. And they get a chance to pick. They can pick actually among the USECOs, just go in the bottom 50 countries, okay?
Starting point is 00:50:37 Bottom 50% of the countries in the world. That's got to be like 75 different countries. You can pick anyone you want. I hope that you pick North Korea. I hope you pick Cuba. I hope you pick Venezuela. I hope that you go to Bahrain, but I will fund your one-way ticket there. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to have a bunch of really smart people,
Starting point is 00:50:55 maybe just an AI, that tracks how quickly those chicks are at the embassy, the American embassy, begging on their knees. Like, please, God, let me back in. I'll do anything. I'll be a barista. I'll make your frat-bay. I'll make the special Christmas frappes for you. I'll write Christian Bible verses on your Christmas cups.
Starting point is 00:51:15 That doesn't matter anything. I'll do anything. Let me back in. Like, that's what they'll say. I'll serve the patriarchy. Here's how you fund that scholarship. Go to Cali, set an over-under. You and I can set an over-under right now.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Is it 12 months? Is it 14 months? Is it 10 months? What's the over-under on the return to the United States? Go! I'm telling them, go. You live in a free world. You live in such a mobile world.
Starting point is 00:51:45 And it's so, you know, you can do it. I beg of you, go. Like, go see. It's been radicalizing for me to travel a little bit. I'm certainly not a world traveler. But I have been to Cuba, bro. I have. It was totally radicalizing.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Never in my life. I have been to Haiti, right? And I have seen some of the, some of these countries that are in just complete collapse. And they're in our hemisphere. They're not even far from America. Like, they're really close. In fact, 90 miles off of the coast of Florida. And, you know, it's, it's barbaric, actually.
Starting point is 00:52:20 And it was totally radicalizing. And I, you kissed, I physically did this. I kissed the ground when I got back to America. I mean, I literally did. I was so happy. Now, not like Katie Perry getting off the Jeff Bezos rocket. Okay, that was, that was something else. Next First Lady of Canada there, by the way, which is great, you know.
Starting point is 00:52:40 As if Canada hasn't endured enough humiliations. Katie Perry is going to be their first lady, so good luck, Canada. Good for you, dating Justin Trudeau. But, yeah, like, go. I beg them to go. I will help them if I ever get rich. Over to the chat and the militia. Patricia says, well, few and fewer young ladies have been taught how to be decent young ladies anymore, sad to say.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Build and Fix with Mooney says Benny fan here, all caps. And S. Joe says, Benny left his show to come here. We followed. Love will too. Well, we love having you over here. We love how you love the Benny show, and thanks for joining us here on Will King Country. I didn't know that. Thanks for ending your show a little early, Benny, to make sure you can hang out with us.
Starting point is 00:53:24 And we hope to see you soon, man. Thank you. Stay based. All right. Well, I saw Benny at the Patriot Awards. I said, man, how much are you lifting? You're getting jacked. He's like, oh, you wear the right things that covers fat.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Bull. Bull. I've seen Benny. He's on some, it's been years now, some transformation. I want to know if he's doing testosterone. if he's doing something other than lifting. Maybe next time I'll get that clarified. Hey, by the way, speaking of young ladies,
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Starting point is 00:55:25 fan of the Benny Show, and it's on at the same time, just subscribe to us on Spotify or Apple, then you can get us right afterwards. Or you can always get it on demand at Wilcane Country on YouTube. All right, Martin Scorsese presents the Saints up on Fox Nation. The latest episode is on St. Patrick. St. Patrick is played by. by Desmond Eastwood, and Desmond joins us now. What's up, Desmond? Hey, Will. How's it going, man? Good. Glad to have you on the show in the studio in New York.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I saw you this morning on Fox and Friends. So, what's it like to play a saint? Oh, yeah, it was an incredible experience. What an honor, you know, and big shoes to fill. But, yeah, it was incredible, you know. What an honor. As an Irishman particularly, you know. Get out of here. You're an Irishman? Never would have guessed.
Starting point is 00:56:19 No, you know, I ask you that question what it's like, because here's what I would think, okay? You get a character. The more layers and more complicating factors to that character, almost the easier it is to play him. You can find the humanity in him. You can find the interesting angles to him. When you go back in history, that gets harder because people get flattened out the further back you go in history. Then you take a saint. And that is somebody, not only flat, out, but deified, like lift it up into a symbol, into something far beyond the man. And when it comes to saints, there's ways they become saints. We get that. And a lot of that has to do with their suffering, their trials, their humanity. But I wonder if that's a really difficult
Starting point is 00:57:00 concoction to dive into, like, I would have to imagine one of the most difficult characters to play would be Jesus, you know? God bless Jim Cavizal or anybody else. You're given Jesus? Like, how do you play Jesus? And not far down the list below that, be playing a saint. Of course, right. Yeah, I totally agree because everyone has such an expectation or interpretation in their head of who that person might be, and everyone will have a very different viewpoint, you know, so, but luckily for St. Patrick, you know, he wrote a confessio towards the latter years of his life. So that was a good sort of staple grounding in like, you know, something concrete that you could sort of rely on and it really humanized him. You know,
Starting point is 00:57:40 he was so full of like doubt and fear and, you know, feeling, very inadequate and unable to do it, which was very, very human. So it was great to rely on that, you know, and not just pure like conjecture and myth and ethos and legend. And how does that work for you on the research side? Did you read that book? Like, how do you go about researching for the part? Yeah, I read it continuously and, you know, it was a great exploration for me. I didn't know much about St. Patrick, to be perfectly honest, before doing it. And it just so happens, you know, again, there's some, some, some, as to truth, but they think he spent of a lot of his time around Down Patrick, which isn't
Starting point is 00:58:20 too far away from where I live. So I was able to go, you know, to his proposed grave and, you know, the first church that he built in the north of Ireland, the church of Saul in Down Patrick. So there was a lot of sort of exploration in that way, but yeah, I read that material over and over and over again and spent a lot of time, you know, in the beautiful nature of Ireland, because obviously a lot of his life was through isolation and solitude, which is where he really developed his relationship with God and strengthened it there. So it was really helpful to be out in nature as much as possible
Starting point is 00:58:55 and just, you know, just ruminate and just think about it as much as you can and let it absorb, you know, as much as you could with the time that you were given, you know. Oh, man, that's interesting to me because, yeah, again, so you're given a historical character. The instinct, and I don't think it's a wrong instinct, it's part of the recipe, I would think, is to dive into the historical fact, to learn the life of the man you're about to play. But beyond that, again, you've got to embody him.
Starting point is 00:59:21 So going out, as you described it, you go out into nature, you ruminate, you connect, you find inspiration. And in this case, again, finding inspiration for somebody is one thing. I would think in this case, you've got to find the spiritual connection, the spirituality of St. Patrick. Of course, and the big challenge with that was, you know, you go on a journey with Patrick. And when you first meet him, you know, he really wasn't that religious at all. If anything, he had no connection to God. And he talks beautifully about, you know, when he was first there, he was like a rock deep, deep in the mud until God kind of released him from that mud
Starting point is 00:59:55 and put him on top of the pile. And it was through his sort of hardship and in captivity and slavery. He felt it was adequate punishment for the life that he had been living and not being true to God. So it was a real, you know, transformation in terms of. terms of almost like a complete U-turn, but, you know, we had, you know, we shot this thing in like eight days. So to do that and go through so many years of his life and try to, yeah, do that transformation and embody it, you know, that was sort of a challenge. But we had a, I'm not
Starting point is 01:00:28 sure if you've seen any of the images or anything, but, you know, the makeup and the hair and, you know, the beards and everything, it was extraordinary, really helpful. Well, I did see a scene. I think it was on Fox and Friends this morning. They played a scene. And I mean, the story, and you kind of alluded to this earlier, there's always going to be conflicting testimonies on what happened or competing theories on what happened. But the story is that, you know, Patrick was kidnapped into slavery from Britain, late stage, Roman Britain, taken to Ireland by Raiders, lived there for six years, I think, as a herder, right? Working. Sheppard, essentially, yeah. And then he escaped. Yeah. And then escaped six years later back to Britain. And then when he finds God, he decides to go back to Ireland.
Starting point is 01:01:19 He goes back to the place that kidnapped him and spread the word of God. Yeah, again, he has a beautiful line. You know, he found his salvation in the land of his captivity, which is beautiful. And it echoes back to that thing of like, you know, through pain and hardship and really terrible things, something really amazing. and came out of it, you know. And, you know, we're here today talking about him, what, 16, 17, 100 years later, which is, you know, pretty incredible. You're Irish, look, I didn't grow up Catholic. I'm from the middle of America. Catholicism, not quite as predominant as it is on the East Coast of America, places like New York,
Starting point is 01:01:59 where there's a large Irish and Italian populations. But, you know, not for better, for worse. Patrick, in a lot of places in America, is reduced to a day, a day where everybody drinks green beer, you know, and things like that. But I would imagine, you know, growing up in Ireland, he maintains a much more significant place in your consciousness. Yeah, for sure. You know, yes and no. I do feel like similar in Ireland, you know, it's St. Patrick's Day, you know, it's celebrated on the 17th of March and everyone has a bit of a yo-ho and drinks lots of beers and dances late into the night, you know. whereas why it's great to tell these stories and really get back to the truth of who he was as a man and, you know, the message that he sort of lived for and what he died for.
Starting point is 01:02:45 And so, yeah, hopefully it raises awareness to the man, you know, to everyone. That's interesting that it's like that even in Ireland. That's really interesting to me. Yeah, I did not know. Even myself coming into this, I just naturally assumed St. Patrick was born in Ireland. Like, I didn't even know that. there you go.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Yeah. Let's talk about this part. I read this part that you auditioned for this role while in Morocco traveling around the Atlas Mountains. So tell me what does that mean you auditioned while you were there, like into your phone? How do you audition so remotely in someplace for something like this? Yeah, so a lot of the times, I don't know if it's also partly to do with COVID, but it also depends what stage of you are with your career and stuff, but very often not. you're invited to audition via self-tapes which is almost like a first round of
Starting point is 01:03:39 auditioning and then if people like you they want to see you again then you'll meet them in person or you'll do recalls or chemistry reads and um so yeah i first heard about it when i was doing the seven summits in the seven days in the atlas mountains shout out to a great mountaineer jason black but yeah that's how it went about so i don't know if the earthiness and the the the mountainous quality maybe settled me a little bit and grounded me for Patrick, you know. That's awesome. And then my guys tell me you have a good story about, what, first meeting, Martin Scorsese?
Starting point is 01:04:13 Yeah, I got to meet him on Monday night, which was incredible. You know, we did it like a screening and there was a big sort of Q&A afterwards and a bit of a cocktail party, but straight after the Q&A, he'd kind of slipped off, and I almost thought, you know, I wasn't going to meet him. And then almost in a movie sense, it was that moment of like, oh, the president would like to speak to you now. I got to go into a back room and he was having a nice dinner
Starting point is 01:04:36 and yeah, we had a little conversation and it was lovely, you know, what an honor is, yeah, one of the greatest filmmakers of all time, you know, and his contribution to the world through his art is, you know, incredible. So it was a really really cool moment for me personally, you know.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Did he ask you your favorite Martin Scorsese movie? He didn't, actually, he didn't, but I'm aware, and I'm hoping in a few movies' time, he might be adapting David Grant, Man's amazing novel about like a big shipwreck, the wager it's called. The wager. Yeah, I would love to.
Starting point is 01:05:12 I'd love to try and get a wee audition for that maybe in a couple of years' time. Does he have the rights to that, by the way? David Graham, by the way, I've read several of his books. I think he's the Lost City of Z as well. I think that's Graham did that one. I think you're right, yeah. But I love shipwreck movies and I love the age of exploration. Desmond, so I've read a lot of books, and I love the movies about, I mean, by the way, reading
Starting point is 01:05:38 the wager, you know, I romanticize it. There was freaking nothing romantic about it. Like, there's no, there was a little part of me, it's like maybe it'd be awesome to go back in time and be one of these explorers on a ship. No, it wouldn't. It's effing awful. And you're going to die of scurvy. Most likely you're going to die of scurvy. So, which is an awful death, by the way. Awful death. But the wager is an awesome story of a shipwreck on the western side of
Starting point is 01:06:07 South America, two ships, I believe ultimately, and these guys are stranded on the western side of South America. They basically have a mutiny, they get into war with each other. One group gets back to safety tells a false story, and the second group, against all the odds,
Starting point is 01:06:23 actually makes it back as well. It's an awesome book. Yeah, all those exploration ones, even, you know, Shackleton and stuff, they're so incredible, but that's why I would like to act in them. I don't want to, you know, I'd like to come back to the warm, cozy trailer and get a hot chocolate or something. But, yeah, I think he's been attached to that one for a while, but I know that's obviously not his next project. But, yeah, hopefully it gets made because it's a remarkable story, you know.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Truly, truly. Well, good luck with that. Yeah, I hope you get it. I will be in line to get the ticket for that movie and promote it, by the way, right off the bat. This is awesome talking to you. Desmond Eastwood, check out St. Patrick. Martin Scorsese presents the Saints at Fox Nation. Thanks for your time today, Desmond. Thank you, Will. Take care, man. Okay, there he goes, Desmond. By the way, wait, wait, before he goes, two days, I should, that's a, I'm so bad at this. That's regular Irish, not Northern Irish accent. Right, Desmond? Like, where are you from in Ireland? My person, I'm from the north of Ireland near Belfast. Oh, so that is a Northern Irish accent. Yeah, mine. Trust your instincts, Will.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Yeah, yeah. You've been obviously to Ireland, right? No, no, I've never been. I just watched a lot of Liam Nisa movies. Oh, yeah, yeah. I did one with him a couple of years ago. I was actually speaking to Scorsese about that a little bit, but yeah, Liam Nieson, what a hero, man.
Starting point is 01:07:51 What'd you do? The Banshees of Inchery or whatever? No, we did a movie called In the Lands of Saints and Sinners with Carrie Con... I've seen it. Yeah, yeah. I played the young sort of awful little brother who abuses the 13-year-old girl and then Liam Neeson catches wind of it
Starting point is 01:08:07 and then, you know, it's only going to end up for me one way after that. But yeah, it was an incredible experience. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. So I got that confused. That's the one I was thinking of. The Banshees of Inchery is Colin Farrell.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Yeah, but Kerry Condon's also in that. She plays the sister in that and she was in The Saints and Sinners too, but yeah that's a martin mcdonough movie banshees of in a sharon it's excellent all right yeah um i brought him back just for those things thank you again desin i appreciate it uh there we go i should have known it was northern irish um okay before we go today two of days dan a tin foil pat let's do a quick version of final takes tin foil pat uh do you want to take it away because um you want to talk about texas i know i know you want to rub in the longhorns and i'm going to let
Starting point is 01:08:56 I don't like, but let's do this because I, yeah, you do. And I'll tell everybody about your text. Your text totally pissed me off on Saturday. And we're going to talk about it. You were in that, you were in that I'm going to get fired range again on Saturday night. But before we get to that, Bill, Bill Ackman, as promised, has the one line you young men need to pick up young ladies. All right? Here it is.
Starting point is 01:09:19 You know Bill Ackman, right? Noted New York financier. I hear from many young men that they find it difficult to meet young women in public. In other words, the online cultures destroyed the ability to spontaneously meet strangers. As such, I thought I would share a few words that I used in my youth to meet someone that I found compelling. Okay, everybody hooked? Here we go. Bill Ackman's going to tell you how to get the ladies. I would ask, quote, may I meet you? Before engaging further in a conversation, I almost never got to know.
Starting point is 01:09:52 It inevitably enabled the opportunity for a further conversation. I met a lot of really interesting people this way. I think the combination of proper grammar and politeness was the key to its effect in this. You might give it a try. And yes, I think it should also work for women seeking men as well in same-sex interactions. Just two cents from an older, happily married guy concerned about our next generation's happiness and population replacement rates. May I meet you? So this has spawned a lot of mockery online.
Starting point is 01:10:25 People posting the reaction you're going to get if you walk up to a lady, may I meet you? What's not even mean? You're meeting them there right now. I think further to further meeting them. I said that to my wife when I met her on a dating app. May I meet you? Yeah. Well, apparently it works, I guess.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Yeah, it works. Now we're married. You found your wife on a dating app? I did. I was very against. it for a very long time. I was always like meeting in person. I loved it. I couldn't do the online dating. I finally tried it. I was on it for three weeks and met my wife. So, first of all, I think everybody's mocking him, but the spirit of what he has to say is actually
Starting point is 01:11:14 right. I think that there is a confidence and a boldness in just walking up to a stranger that you have some reason that you want to talk to more let's be real it's going to be physical attraction it has to be at that point you haven't yet spoken to them love's not blind and um and you go up and i do think that you know it doesn't matter what you bat like you're not trying to make the hall of fame here you don't need to bat 320 you could bat below the mendoza line and it's going to be okay you're still meeting something you can maintain some of confidence. You'd be batting 0.05.
Starting point is 01:11:57 It's all about volume. Antoine Walker, right? And I think it's, I think, Patrick, I think it's counterintuitive. You would think if I get shut down eight times in a row, that's going to destroy my confidence. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:12:13 However, I think you also learn it's not the end of the world. So you get calloused a little bit and more bold. Do you see what I'm saying? Like, I think the guys that are trying to bat a thousand are um taking yeah and so they're sitting on the sidelines because you can't risk the strikeout
Starting point is 01:12:33 no one likes it but you got to understand you're gonna strike out you're gonna strike out right nobody bats a thousand you're not to mix sports metaphors tom brady tom brady probably would bat a thousand in the bar scene right now right so that's not if you're from new york you You think he wouldn't? 7.50. I don't know. I bet you're one. Not everybody's for everyone.
Starting point is 01:12:59 You have to accept rejection. Someone gave me that great advice when dating. Accepting rejection and making it okay with yourself, like what you're saying with batting average, that helped me so much with talking to people, even in business. And by the way, how you handle the rejection actually dictates the next five minutes. Yeah. Like with her.
Starting point is 01:13:19 I'm not saying you'd be one of those. guys that ignores the rejection. You don't do that. But you don't protect your fragile ego. You don't walk away, dark eye contact. Don't do that. Don't do any of those things. You can say, well, you're making a big mistake. May I meet you? Is that your line, Will? Making a big mistake? I think that's not the right line. All due respect to Mr. Ackman. I don't think that's the right line. May I meet you? Might have been 40 years ago. Say, what up? Hi, how are you?
Starting point is 01:13:55 What's your Instagram? I think, can I buy you a drink is really, really good. Because it says what it needs to say. Do you know what I mean? Like, she understands what that means. Yeah. Did Desmond forget something in the studio? I think he forgot his coat. There we go. Can't leave without your coat. It's cold out there. everybody.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Have a good one. See you, man. By the way, you have that accent in an American bar, you could walk up and say, may I meet you or anything else? You're going to be fine. You're going to be fine. Your batting average is going to go up. He said this is his first time in New York City, and he's been having a great time, and I'm sure. I bet. I bet. Anyway, we got to workshop that, the line, but the instinct is right. the line starts with the eyes the eyes are telling you a lot
Starting point is 01:14:51 before you even you know go to the plate you can see what pitches the pitcher is tipping you can see I think I think the eyes will tell you a lot confidence baby you gotta show it it works not cockiness
Starting point is 01:15:07 confidence I don't have a good line but I would like to talk to you just go meta with it yeah all right uh quickly final take so for a saturday night the horns we don't need the sounder for this uh-uh the horns get beat by the georgia bulldogs and dan started it off you guys really irritated me and then i find out later patrick wasn't even watching the game i know the text come in y'all talk about how bad arch is i said it looked rough are you even watching the game
Starting point is 01:15:42 he he what are you even watching the game like arch was the best player for texas arch was good arch is progressing i now believe i now believe that next year legit one of the best quarterbacks in the country and if he could keep it going this year you know texas would be um well they're already at three losses but they'd be much more dangerous i think they still are dangerous for texas a and m uh the night after Thanksgiving. But Arches, this is what I would challenge you do when you watch a game. Watch his head. His head is downfield going through progressions. He still miss his passes. His deep ball's not that pretty. He overthrows a lot. He throws the ball too hard. But he was totally let down. There was like five drops in the first half by his receivers. Easy ones. And I got into a big
Starting point is 01:16:35 debate with my friends afterwards that this is on coaching. This was on Sark. He got completely out-coached. And then some of my friends got super defensive of Sark. And maybe they have a point that I'm comparing him right now to the best. There is no doubt that Kirby Smart is the best coach in college football. He is so good. He is so good. He's no Brian. Kicking an onside kick when you just went up, when you're up 11 in the, what was it, was it, was it the beginning of the fourth quarter?
Starting point is 01:17:06 Yeah. I mean, it was over after that. Yeah. It was over after that. Um, and yeah, I mean, and Sark didn't have his team prepared. There was nine penalties, I think, in the first, was it in the first half, or seven penalties in the first half? And I don't know how many for the game total. Like, the team was just killing arch, blown assignments in the secondary, penalties, drop balls.
Starting point is 01:17:29 When it's that dispersed, this is what I got an argument my friends about. Like, the players have to play. Yeah, but when there's that many problems coming out of a by week, I think it's coaching. I think that is coaching. You did not have your team ready. Do you guys disagree with that? Like there is a line where it's the player's fault, but when it's that diffuse and that much,
Starting point is 01:17:49 I think it has to come back to the coaches. I always wondered how much coaching in college football came into it. I mean, it's a lot, but like, you know, it's a lot on just talent, just straight up talent. So I don't know. We're debating it a lot. I don't think the talent gap between, this was a debate. Like, Emmanuel Lacho got into this too,
Starting point is 01:18:08 because so this was the talent gap between Texas and Georgia is not as great. It's not that great. There is one. Georgia is more talented, but not that great. They're both spending a ton of money. There's guys saying the Texas players are playing for paychecks, and the Georgia players are, you know, under Kirby Smart's inspiration, playing hard to win.
Starting point is 01:18:27 And that's why I keep coming back to coaching. And by the way, that doesn't mean fire sark. That's not what that means. It just means there's a gap. And I don't even know who's close to Kirby Smart. I don't know. I don't think Marcus Freeman's on his level at Notre Dame. Maybe Kurt Signetti at Indiana will have to see when it matters.
Starting point is 01:18:47 I mean, peak, Lane Kiffin? You know. Lane Kiffin's up there, man. Yeah. If Sark is the eighth best quarterback in the country, I mean, coach in the country, what I'm telling you is there's a big drop between one and eight. For sure. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:19:01 It's not like little incremental drops. It's a big drop. All right. are you giving up for me today we'll be back again tomorrow sink oh you want to have that debate that's you think i'm just curious i'm just curious because like they've been pushing they've been pushing it the narrative has changed to where people are saying hey texas even with a loss against georgia or texas an m you win texas a and m people are saying you'll get in i want to just to make your freaking new haircut head explode i just want you to spend you to spend
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